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Pulling into tonight's topics of do we think how important in in the grand panting of inventions is the car essentially?

And what is a feature in the car that you could not live without now that you've you've got one. So let's start with first of

all, rivals, Mr Who was first arrive to you guys?

Technically me because always here for the previous show.

Alright, well what's happening in your updates with you?

The old Falcon just cost me nearly a grand.

So basically bunting it. We're getting you a good cat.

It's $650 cat from Repco with a warranty, right?

That's good. That's good, yeah.

You just changed the hotdog. Straight through.

I'm Alan. What were the symptoms again?

Was it was it the light was on or something?

It wasn't running. The light never comes on.

It's it's the sound. It's the sound and a bit of a

loss of power. This one wasn't completely

screwed yet, it was just on its way.

You could. Hear it normally when it goes,

it goes badly, like you have a severe loss of power.

And if you replace that before, yes, yes I have.

Cause you didn't. Doesn't go more than 1/4

throttle, yeah, and it doesn't drive very far either.

Yeah, it needs to be driven properly and for extended distances, which is what the gases were made for.

Unfortunately doesn't get in my household and once it.

Maybe it'll, it'll get a good run on the highway when I get it. Yeah, hopefully.

Hopefully that'll be the case and that way you can look after it so they had the whole service start.

Planning to look after. He's planning to make money.

You can move along and that can be on his conscience.

Whatever goes down afterwards, I'm more than happy he's an.

Alcoholic conscience. I've sold many cars, yeah.

I've got no conscious when giving my car to an LCT and then that's it, you know, it's it's up to him after that, so.

Well, that's good. Sorry.

Just being serviced as well and we may or may not give you new tyres, I don't know. Oht no.

I mean it's getting better and better.

I'm I'm liking it more. But the price is gonna go up, I

think. Yeah.

Yeah. Hang on a minute.

I'm calling shenanigans. Depends on how long.

Obviously we want to hang on to the car as well, so I'll be closer to the end of the year when you know, maybe you get it out. We'll see.

OK. Well, that's, you know, that

timing could work for me. It could work.

Before you give it to him, just better than tyres and then give it to him. No more differential, no more

tail shaft. I'll take the deposit 1st and

then. All right, Don't give to Tyrone.

Wouldn't be here out of the question.

If you could sort of sort out the body and that would be nice, yeah yeah. So I unfortunately it took an

extra day because we had organised account so I had to unbook Vmax from the service and then reboot it for Friday.

I did find out they do the tailgate central locking kit.

They charge 250 for it as well just for the part alone, which if you buy from a third party I think about 2:50 might as well get from my Suzu. Thing is they don't have well

the the parts guy couldn't give me a guide on how long it would take to fit so you'd have some idea, right?

You guys worked there? He's like, no, we'll have to get

your quote. I'm like, alright, just want to

come in. I'll ask then I'll have

something more concrete. The parts guide for when you

buying the car new is at $500.00 for it.

So I'm assuming it would be about 2:50 in labour, which I'm OK with because you have to get under the car and everything else. Um, if it was the just the slow

soft closing and soft opening skit that I'm just gonna buy myself and do it because all in one area.

If if the Dmax was like the range of the Tyrant had where was linked to where the fuel cap is, that would be a lot easier.

You just run it right there. But this you basically have to

run all the way into the car, into the cabin, and you know, I'm not that keen on getting under the name Max and.

You're a mechanic now. You did a clutch on a you know

that? All the clutch lights on and

everything to what the scars for Ben?

Scars. Yeah, yeah, you're cool for me.

Can you at this point? I could do it, but maybe I don't

make it. So yeah.

Also, they told me that they don't even have the kid in the country, so it's gonna be another month until I get an answer. Once I take it the 1st, I'll see

what's up, get a price from them, get it ordered in and then get that done. The rest of the cars running

just fine. Very good.

How's the top on the MX5? You had it down yet?

No, I've. I've been just let it out in the

sun and there's not much sun going on in Melbourne unfortunately right now. But whenever there's a chance I

do leave it out in the sun. I'm going to wait till there's a

really like sunny day and then I'll finally take it down and let's say that would be sunset. Guns out like David.

Turn. Not much for myself, actually.

Just actually, I didn't even, didn't even look at it this week at all. Having just driving it, enjoying

it and that's it. It's been good so.

Far, yeah, it's been. It's been alright.

The only thing that I need to do probably, which is not a big issue, is just put some padding behind the back number plate.

Yeah, that's a bit of vibration. Subwoofers will do.

That, yeah. So yeah, just um, I'm thinking

if I should actually put something there.

Just. Put some double sided tape like

some some like in the you know the outdoor double out of tape on the plate. That's thinking of that will

either just put 2 screws for the bottom number plate.

If it's got the two screw, two bottom screw hole but you still you still might get a little bit of vibration so that that that little bit of fire. Fire or something.

Yeah. Yeah.

My, yeah. Might just take off normal, put

some on the back of that and put it back on.

But other than that, no, everything is all going good.

Um, yeah. Nothing.

Nothing really to to look at. Probably the next thing, major

thing to look at is that front, right.

Shock. Yeah.

Is getting a little bit more squeaky now only when I'm going over bumps, not so much when it's just driving.

The probably the original shocks in the.

Car you probably haven't really. I really looked into it, but

yeah, that's probably it. Nothing else.

Yeah, very good. Edward Bunting Hello.

Carp dates I mentioned last time I think I sold the Subaru Impreza, so that's that's going to new owner.

Yep. Prado, I've sort of put that on

ice. I'm not sort of advertising the

Prado. I think I will hang on to that

for that that trip next year. So I'm just trying to find out,

you know someone who's got a shed that I can shin that I.

Don't need to look at it for quite a few months.

You know, yeah, I do. 1000 bucks a month.

Yeah, doesn't matter. Yeah, not gonna happen.

What else? The Berliner is about to be

advertised. I wanted to get that online on

the weekend, but just got busy. I did manage to vacate, do the

windows, Polish it on the weekend so it's ready.

It just needs to be photographed, which is hard because before we've darken after work, it's dark and you sort of really need to be home for a lunchtime.

And then when you go into work, you're not home.

And there there so. Get to work.

Yeah, I could, but I've got my favourite photo spot here.

I might work from home Thursday or something and try and do it anyway. That's happening.

It's ready to go. What else can I tell you?

I bought a Swift Sport. Did I tell you that?

Yeah. So you end up getting it.

Yes, I got the Swift Sport. I picked it up Saturday.

As always, there's something, you know, there's always something that's not quite right when you buy a car.

So she, you know the platform that I bought it through, you know, they sort of said the, you know, the owner discloses quite a few things about it and that was all alright.

Bit of damage on the front left, little bit of fading on the roof. Yep, we knew that.

Then I rocked. Or when I when I rang her to

sort of arrange pickup, she said.

Oh the By the way, the engine lights on.

And it came on before and it was the Oxy sensor.

So she said I had that replaced and but then it's coming back again and she goes I think it's probably that again I'm like OK, we're not going out there and sort of started it and not she's I did take it for a bit of a drive around the estate and it was very splattery like the the but there you know like it was still driving but it wasn't happy, it was not running on all cylinders all the time sort of thing so.

Um, well. She said I had the plugs

replaced and then it sort of kept doing this and and then they said it'll be the coil packs and so she had brand new coil packs there in the box and said well we think it's that they come with the car but she goes I have fitted them or done anything. With them, they work if they're

still in the box. Well, no, but so you know, so I

was like, alright, yeah, whatever.

So I thought it can't be anything too crazy on a Swift.

So I drove it home sort of when when you got it up to speed, it wasn't too bad, it was just sort of more of a take off.

It was a bit the bed, the bed, but otherwise temp was good gearbox. Would clutch good steering good.

You know everything else sort of worked as it should So I I fanged at home and my friend and I, my friend Ron who's been on the podcast he pulled out the old coil packs and one of them was completely you know snapped in the in the shaft bit of it.

So he goes, oh there's your problem.

We're placed both of those put it back together but being able to boom, she's full power engine light off and Swift is happy so took it for a bit of a Fang on the freeway and roundabout and I was like oh I remember why I like these these are these are a fun little machine. So I yeah, I've given it a bit

of a clean I've put it back online.

For sale, as I do as a dealer, and I reckon I've had more messages on that bloody car than any other car I've ever sold.

No one's come to look at it yet. No one's come to buy it yet.

But yeah, there's been plenty of visit availables, like about 75 I reckon. Usually.

Probably even. No, no regional roadie as is.

Of course people always want to regenerate.

Even I'm. I'm not interested in getting

that car ready. It's it's cheap.

It's the cheapest one in Australia.

It's running and driving and someone else can get it loaded in Reggio. That isn't me.

So I have not even getting it checked you know but drives fine. Like, you know, I think it

probably needs front shocks. Me, you know, they're a little

that feels a little loose in the front end, but other than that I'm Polish the headlights and you'd probably be good.

Anyway, but that's why it's cheap.

It's the cheapest one in the country, so.

You know how you deal with lowballers?

I did. I'll read you one of my

favourite messages. Actually, this was this was

quite good. OHS.

Someone else has just messaged me right then.

Bear with me just a 30 seconds while I grab this.

Ah, this is my favourite. Weird.

He's he's a wild down the list because, you know, we've had quite a lot he would know. Is this available?

I said Yep I know Reggio. I said that's how I bought it.

It expired. The previous owner bought a new

car. They they didn't pay the region

on this one $1000 cash tomorrow. Now I'm asking 3250 for this car

but it's $1000 cash tomorrow. And I said ha ha nice one.

And then he said what? Car with no Red Joe wasn't worth

nothing. Even if it was 2023, you would

be lucky to get 3 grand without Red Joe.

Yeah. Then I said, yeah, you're right.

And then he just gives me a thumbs up and that's it.

I'm just like, Oh my God, these people.

So anyway, I I sort of feel like this, this modern way of selling cars on Facebook or Gumtree. Wherever you are, it just.

No one wants to put in any work anymore.

Like if you actually contact me, say what's your number And you ring me and your normal and you just come and look at it, I'll do a deal on the comments already cheap, but you know I'll yeah, but just actually get off your fat ass and come on over and look at it. And I'm quite convinced that.

That's why I get a few cars here and there from people is because you actually turn up and you're normal and you're not an idiot and you just treat them with respect and they go, oh wow, that that was easy. That was nice.

That's all people want. They just want to be easy and

nice. Not to mention it's it's a very

good value. Cast so it's like, well, anyway

you can. I can advertise it all I want,

but I'm just someone's got to just come and look at it and they'll probably buy it. You can lead a swift to

Facebook. Yes, that's right.

That's right. That's right.

So that is that. Car.

What else can I tell you about? Yeah.

Belina Swift. No, I think that's about it.

I think I've been doing anything.

Else very good, Mr Prince. Carpets this week for me.

I'll probably the highlight. So far this week's been a new

show that's just was started up had its first first run last Sunday, run by the Classic car owners group of Victoria, which was a club, started up cheering. COVID.

Wasn't it? Yeah, I think it was During

COVID. It was so so car guys could put

photos of their cars up, sort. Of yeah, it was like a a virtual

car show. Yeah, yeah, it was really good.

Well, they had their, they had what they called super mild on Sunday, which was down at the old Phillip Morris Building in Chesterville Rd. In Moorabbin.

And they had quite a, dare I say, a highball, esque sort of feel to it. Not not as big as highball, but

very eclectic collection of different cars.

But the big attraction was that it was undercover.

So they had a massive. There's a massive part of that

building that, all that cigarette manufacturing building that down there. I don't know, probably. 1000,

maybe even 1500 square metres I suppose it was a big, big space and a lot of cars they they had a good, they would have had oht easily 150 cars inside and then probably the same amount outside in the car park and down the street.

Lots of and interestingly it was great being inside.

So you were out of the out of the wind and then out of the rain because it actually started raining, but you didn't know until you went when you look outside.

But a lot of fumes and a lot of them.

There was a lot of updates there, so if you counted up all the cylinders, I think you'd be very up to a very high number.

But it was great. Some really, as I said, really

different sort of things there was.

Everything from our friend Andrew with his Magnus.

With one of his Magna waggons, it's just back from the panel shop and it looks incredible. Beautiful for Nut and bolt, Very

early Tudor Range Rover. Restos.

There were, you know, hot rods, There were bagged Chevy caprices. There were lots of HSV, lots of

Porsches, Dodges, all sorts of things.

And and and a line up of 3K tracks, which was pretty cool.

So I saw that, yeah, that was cool.

Being three, Yeah, all three. Suzuki.

Suzuki actually. But yeah, so that was good.

Probably a few people there and caught up with friend of the show Michael Henley there. Had a good chat to him.

Yeah, so that was good. That was good.

From Did you get like free dots when you when you drove into the factory? Or no, no, I don't think they're

even there anymore. It's sort of become.

Like a? Sort of almost looks like a sort

of Co shared Co working sort of space sort of thing now.

There's really no evidence that it was actually.

It certainly does have Phillip Morris up on the side anymore, which it had for many, many years.

There's sort of a it seems to have been to and there was actually a real estate guy as one of the displays inside who was. Hawking at one of those factory

conversions where they make the little man cave sort of factory sort of thing, which was nearby. I don't think it was for that

building, I think it was for, but it would have been nearby.

There's a few of those ones down there where you buy 120 metres with the mezzanine and all that sort of thing.

Which not nearly big enough, but pretty cool all the same.

So that's about me. I've come up with a plan to keep

the Civic waggon, keep that little project rolling.

It set out the front of my house for some time now, but that won't be much longer. I'm going to send that off to

have a little bit of fettling done and then decide whether or not it was going on the templates or going to graze I think. Greys.

Greys, greys, greys. So yeah, I think that's about me

for now. Rob, just been working on me

4:30 throughout the the week, put the the what the bonnets across. Clip gave it a full detail

inside and out. Buffed it all up, cleaned it all

up. Put it on Marketplace.

And that's why I. Said.

My bold big time, I've had something like how many clicks do I have? I had basically 472 clicks and

18 saves and I've had about. Ah, at least six queries on it.

And and I'm getting low boards, stupid money.

And then one guy goes, you know, I'll give you 7 if it's registered and roadworthy, but I'll give you 5 if it's not and.

I just say no. You're just saying.

I just say no, you know, and they.

Go come with Reg. No.

You know, what about a road with him?

No. I said I'll, I'll, I'll do it

rich and roadworthy, but it's gonna cost them because it's my time. Yeah, just say no.

You gotta remember you've got something that they supposedly want. You know you're selling it at a

level. And if they don't want to abide

by that, they don't have to. Like it's their choice.

And I think it's like I said, seven down 7, two negotiable and like I'll take 65 for it tomorrow.

And I think it's, you know, a big money, especially if you get one of those registered people asking eight 9000 plus for.

Them, Yeah. I wouldn't even put negotiable

cause they'll do that anyway, you know, I'd just take that off. Take it off.

Yeah, I'd just say 7. Two, you know, and without the

negotiable. Yeah, so the cars come up real

well. I'm pretty happy with it, so I'm

almost inclined to keep it. But I've got too many.

It's gotta go. It's there, has to go.

So, but yeah, so was good. It was pretty good.

It was pretty rewarding seeing the car that was neglected, it wasn't looked after. Interior was a mess there.

What do they call dental floss sticks in underneath the seats?

Shocking. It was putrid.

And this guy was a lawyer too, by the way.

They're the worst. They're used car salesman.

Just everything was in. It was just a car, just was

neglected. But from like all the paperwork.

He spent a lot of money at the mechanics, changing engine mounts and doing the services and everything else.

But the interior was just shocking.

I don't know how anyone could live like that.

People do believe me. I've worked on currencies for 38

years. Yeah, and.

And just just thinking of that reminded me.

Subaru sent me out to repair a customers house, repair of customers car at their house. They have a habit of wearing

through the car. So Subaru, we're paying for the

warranty and I was putting a heel man in it.

So yeah, there's the car. Open the door and not kneeling

pad sort of thing. Obviously to, you know, work

down low on the floor of the car and just to be greeted the the I've never seen as many fingernail, you know, where they're, you know, peeled their fingernails all over the floor.

It was vile, I've gotta say. It was one of the grossest

things I've ever come across. So I actually went and said if

you got a vacuum cleaner, which led me to vacuum your car.

I said it's really pretty dirty. I said I need to vacuum it

before I can do what I need to do.

OHP. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Sure. Yeah.

There you go. Hello everybody.

How old was that? Can't have been that old was an

ex V So yeah, no ex's go through the carpets too.

Yep. So all the liberties do.

Point out the Dave lot of the new Hondas carpets.

Are they a lot worse than what they used to be like 15 years ago? Like finally, it's not just

Hondas everything because everything that they really pushed the aftermarket maps of course, but probably the worst Hondas in recent memory with the early jazzers, the carpets in those were basically made of tissue paper and they would fall apart pretty quickly. But we usually install like a

large heel map or or a heel mat in them.

A lot of them don't actually have a helmet in them now.

So we we actually put helmet skin over the holes, basically.

No accident roadworthy, basically, but yeah.

You're right, David. The I've seen a a very.

They decline in the quality of automotive carpets and and as you say they pushed the all big factory rubber mats or the big factor, you know thick mats and whatever.

But the actual carpet and the car is often really cardboard and needle punch and and horrible.

Exactly. The days of the good old thick

cut pile like in a Benz or Beamer, you know it's really well, there's still around, but it's reserved for, it's reserved for the prestige stuff. Not yet.

Like remember when Mazda 6 Two Sixes and Subaru Liberties and they actually had really nice cut pile carpet and crusaders and things and you sort of don't get that in those lower echelons now. Certainly not.

And this is that. Real nice carpets, didn't they?

Back in the early days in the 80s they always used nice carpet. And then in a Nissens.

Well, Nissans had a loop pile, you know, Yeah, so like and it wasn't particularly hard wearing, like I remember dad's patrol had loop pile in it and that that got a few sort of wear spots on it from from just normal family use, but.

Yeah the cup pile was a was was a sort of a boon and I remember.

I remember because I used to clean the cars as a I still do no one else in my family ever picks up a a sponge.

But yeah, vacuuming a car with good carpets is an absolute joy because they all come up like new and stuff comes up then you get the nice lines in the carpet and you know but vacuuming like my mum's old Magna, we were talking about the other.

So the TR that had needle punch carpet they called it, which was basically this sort of horrible fluff that everything sticks to it. So you get a a bit of Barker.

Or a twig and, you know, sort of entwines itself in the rears itself. You can't get this bloody stuff

out, you know? Whereas you know an 80s bends or

or a Mazda 626 or something, you just give bracket and it just come straight off. You know it's not a problem.

So with this Mercedes too. So I've got the blower and I

actually blew all the leaves out of it and it took the back seat out, blew everything out. Then I started vacuuming, but

then I tried that trick. Have you seen that orbital

Sander on a carpet or bring it? Brings all the the Gunja.

Seems to work. Yeah, so I tried that vacuum.

Quite well. To come up right?

Yeah. And that's when you when you've

got those quality cars to start with, be it leather or MBX or that that carpet, they do clean up well because they're sort of designed to clean up well. It's the it's the cheap plastics

or the horrible carpets that you can't, you just can't bring them back as easily, you know? Hmm.

Scotty. Me.

Not a whole lot on my end, I. Just today with the Subaru.

The coolant disappearing again, I don't know where.

It's. Start.

Well, I topped it up again. It just get.

No, because I just stopped. I dumped the oil and did a full

service on it. It's what they do.

They. There's.

And it's all clean. There's nothing in it, there's.

No, it doesn't have to be going into the oil scholar.

That's where I'd see it. What else?

Would it be? Going.

Not necessarily. It depends where the gaskets

gone. Where else would I know?

Course. Yeah, it's going into a water

jacket now, the exhaust or something.

But I'm not seeing anything coming out the exhaust, yeah.

You don't always. It's assuming it's what it's

doing. Better not be.

It is. I'm telling you it is.

How do I do a leak down test on it?

Scotty if you can if you can get it to to a place and they'll be able to tell the look the the two leaders are not as prone to head gaskets. Actually they actually pretty

good. Like it's a 2.5 that had the

real issues. So it could be as simple as like

a like a like a little hose that you don't know that's just that's just you know dripping a bit out or it could be the radiator that you from from a spot that you can't see so.

Yeah, I notice there's a little bit watering that around the front on some of the hoses, but I can't see exactly where it would be coming from. Could be a lot of.

Cleaned it all up under there and hopefully I can just drive it and then come back and kind of just see exactly where it's coming from. The water pumps Hill goes.

Sometimes it pushes it out through a little telltale hole and then hits the pipe and slightly.

Down. Had the water pump and all that

done like a year ago so. It won't be that.

Shouldn't this? Shouldn't be?

Brand new, that one. Yeah.

It wasn't done that long ago. Just just get him to have a look

though like I would because if it's when you head in you don't be driving long distance and be like oh hang on a minute I'm temps coming up in a bit of trouble here.

Yeah. Just just just give him the

pressurise, the system and then they'll be able to put up, you know, put a couple torches in there and see where it's coming from. Yep, I'll have to do that

whenever I've got time. And that's that's it for me.

Nothing else. Very, very good updates with me.

Nothing. The guy still has not picked up

this L today and um. What's going on?

What's going on with that? I'm convinced it's never gonna

sell at this point. I'm.

Told you what to do. Tell him I'll give it to you.

Pay me the money and take it. That's it.

I need to trade plane. Take it there.

Yeah, I just hired trailer. Perhaps a couple of?

Was the deposit substantial? It was enough.

Because they at that point, it's your car again.

Somebody just paid you to keep your car.

Sure, that's pretty good because I I didn't, I didn't really do the club permit because I was like, well, it's sold, Yeah, it was not like. You you send him a written

notice indicating that he needs two other finalises purchase, otherwise you're agreement ceases and you he forfeits the deposit. Like he's coming up with every

excuse under the sun, like, I don't know, he said.

But it's like he's scamming himself because he's paid me money, you know? I mean it's it's it it it makes,

it makes no sense to me. Like it's it's getting to the

point now he's like oh see calls in Bendigo.

I was this or was that. I'm I'm like, mate.

I need the car horn like it's it's just sitting.

There maybe again he at this point, you know, regrets his decision, his buyers remorse because he knows he can't get the Twizzler back. So he's going to string you

along until one of you guys. I I think, I think what's

happening is he's, he's, he's across the show.

That's like, oh God, what am I buying?

And he's like, he's like, you know, he's listening to some episodes, like, no, I can't, I can't do this.

That's one of those situations. We're expecting one of them to

die soon. It's like this could string

along for the next 70 years or so.

Yeah, there's every chance that. Well, when did it expire, Manny?

Expired couple weeks ago. So I mean, I mean, I can still

do it. I've got time to do it, but I

could pay 45 days still. I could.

You've got three months to pay you.

Presumably it's not being driven because.

It's legal to be driving it on the OR the permits if the permit is not current, But yeah, you you do get a grace period before you gotta go through the whole process if you.

Yeah. So he he's like, look up mate, I

want the car and he's exactly what I want.

The car 500% is what he said. I'm playing.

Well, is he happy to pay 500? Percent and he's like, I'm

gonna, I'm driving it to Queensland and then I'm going to take it to an event up there. I'm like, that's great, but

what's the? Black Matt.

What's the blocker? He's, he's, he was.

He had the flu and then he was in Bendigo for work.

And then there's a few other excuses.

I can't bother getting it on my phone right now, but.

So how, how long ago did you again?

Alright, I'll. I'll give us a real time period

because at this point you can be charging him rent for the shipping cost taking out. I'll tell you when I received a

deposit. That way you'll be like,

alright. Tell you what you owe me this

much for. Storage.

And our save the deposit on the 23rd of June.

OK, so he owes you basically a month.

Month, Month of storage. How much does the airport

parking cost? Cause you're near the airport,

it's yeah. Boxer.

Yeah, just keep the airport and just give him the giving the.

Ticket. I don't think he's gone.

I don't think he's coming to get that cause if you're serious, you'd go and get it. So yeah, he's not serious.

So I feel we should do the old, good old, you know, legal letter. You know, you clearly have not

come to pick up the car. Yeah.

At this point you were forwarding your deposit will no longer have a right to this vehicle sale.

He sold me a like a bill of sale thing.

I haven't signed it because I'm not signing until he gets there.

I know I sent it back to him. So he sent me that and he's

like, oh, if you want more money to transfer just to to to, to show you that I'm 100% in the car, old soldiers training.

Awesome. Thank you.

You can sit there forever and then tell him it's gonna be parked in the street. Is it parked in the street?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's on the street currently.

I can't put anymore. The whole lot.

Absolutely. Gonna transit the whole lot and

this cost slowly. Gonna lose pots over time.

Yeah, be on bricks and then. I don't know what happened.

So. It's parked out the front in

sunshine. You know Mr Mr. Burns, he

carried down and crushed into cube.

You have 10 minutes to move your cube.

It's about. Cube.

Look, look, I'm. I'm never selling a car on

Facebook Marketplace ever again. I'm never even.

Car sales didn't really do it for me this time.

So I'm just, I I I'm, I don't know why.

Every time I sell my car, I present the most of three I sold. But believe it or not, I

actually saw it the other day. The exact same car.

I was like, Oh my God, it's got the same guy Still driving it now. Sorry.

I bumped into him driving in the city.

It was the cheapest one on the market.

It was the lowest case and roadworthy registration.

And it couldn't sell. No, I had that many people come

look at it and it did not sell. I'm like, why can't I sell?

I. Don't too cheap.

I thought you were up to something.

But that's the thing, right? Like I I said, the cars just

been serviced. Everything is ready.

It's ready to go for it to its new owner.

Made it too good. Made like he's he's learned

something. Like it's I'm just like I I hate

selling cars for this reason. I'm I'm just sick of it.

Yeah, it's just not easy, easy road.

And I think you've signed how like people, a lot of people shoot those messages with local office.

It's because no one wants to put in the effort of finding a car.

Doing whatever work needs to be done to it and then moving it along. I just want the quick flip.

So that's. Why, when I was, when I was a

young, a young buck, you know, buying cars out of the trading post and what have you, I would ring people, I would talk to them, I would ask the right questions to ascertain the what the cars condition was. You get a pretty good idea over

the phone. And then I would get in my car

on the train or the tram or my bike or whatever and go and look at it. That's how I learned And you go

and like and sometimes you've surprised back then because you didn't get a million photos and whatever, whatever, you know, you had to sort of take it, take it on its mirrors.

But it was nice. You got a hunch about these

people, the way they're talking and the way they're describing this, and you? You just get an idea of what

these cars were like and sometimes you get there and go, Oh no, that's an absolute bucket and other times you go, ohhhhh, this is way better than than what what I thought.

But now it's just, it's lazy motors because everyone's got the images and they just sit there and ping off a billion inquiries and you couldn't do that back before the Internet.

But it's like it's all just added with like like for like when I when I buy second car I I will call them or send them to tell you available to chat about the car we can win the best time to call you and then I'll call and say hey I'm calling about the car sale etcetera you know XYZ it.

But it's the same thing with everything in life.

Like for example, you won't get people knocking on your door.

Pressing door. I'm OHF the Miss Smith.

I'm outside. I'm out the front and side.

It's just knock on the door like yeah like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. Like, Oh no, I can't, can't

disturb them. We hidden behind our phones

these days and. Sometimes it's useful, you know,

so you're in the wrong house, can't get kidnapped.

That's that's fair. That's fair.

But like at the same at the same token though too like if.

It's I also agree that due to things like tick tocks, people have an attention span of about 15 seconds.

So you know there's that issue, which is why they shoot off the messages. Probably forget that they shut

off message. What do you wanna do?

The amount of OHS? Is this available?

I got on the LCD and I'll be like yes it is and then nothing, like they wouldn't even read the message after I sent it.

Back That's why so many, the ads now say will not respond to.

Is it available? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

People accidentally clicked on it.

Yeah, it does that. I mean, I.

Already clicked on one for accidentally looking at all GT.

I think it's like it's like, oh wait.

I've got a live update from this guy.

I'm not that 1 from 4. This is another one.

You know, is it available? Yes.

Here's my number. Call me when it's available for

pick up. And I said tonight, if you like,

right after the show because what's the present condition?

How long have you had it? I said I'm a dealer.

I got it recently. It runs and drives, but it'll

need a check for roadworthy. It's cheap and I'm selling it as

is. That's the fact, you know.

OK, sounds good. Where would you like to meet for

pick up? I'm like, oh, this is sounding

good. So then I said, how does 845?

Are you bringing cash? You will also have some papers

to sign. They had no response to that.

So I was like I think you should I think you should do what Alan suggested cinema letter saying if you don't pay it in full by such and such time and collect the car then I'm just keeping you deposit. Then I think you should fit

those lovely flags that you had at high ball when you were like ball fit those to the front. Take it out to graze and say you

know and and flog it as an ex government Commonwealth of Australia car. I think that's it.

Go. No.

Yeah I'm I'm just. I'm just just a little bit

annoyed with it to be honest with you like it's he was like he was like look I'll transfer you to post.

Can you please take it offline. I don't wanna lose the Charlie

who's like fool like give me a spiel.

I'm like, OK no worries. I'm like where you live.

I live in Knox to be far away. Can't get there from work.

I can't get someone to drop me off, like legit every excuse under the sun. The fucking train, mate.

It's called PT. It ain't that hard.

Yeah, pretty much. Did you?

Take that off. I took.

I took it off on Facebook, but I kept on cousin.

Yeah, I put it back on Facebook. So he says that.

He put it back on, put it back online.

That's it. It made you remember that

Porsche Cayenne I bought at Pickles.

Yeah. Yeah, well, I sold that to this

guy and he went for a test drive drive.

He took it to his mechanic, right?

He actually purchased the whole car.

He took it away for three days. He goes, I don't like it.

I want my money back. You thought.

You thought you told me to get stuffed, Alright?

No, it's a big Lebanese boy. And he was, I think he had a few

connections and I felt a little threatened.

You can have the car back, but you gonna lose your deposit and you guys so gave me money back, kept the deposit component, got the car back. And then I sold it for what I

saw. Was sold before anyway, so it

didn't matter. Wow.

That was something You can't feel threatened, so you gotta be careful who you say, Kathy. Yeah, same thing happened with

me when I was having the Rangers.

All the guy came and looked at it.

He liked it. Same day he gave me a deposit

and everything, you know, And then I went, did, did the roadworthy and everything and he was waiting.

He said he's waiting on his finances to come through or whatever, you know, waiting, waiting, waiting.

Waiting for weeks. With findings don't play.

Like that. And then this other guy came.

I I still, I still. I told him anyway, I told him

straight up I go, look, I'm still gonna have it online.

I'm not taking it off. If someone comes and buys, buys

it to me, OK. It deposit back and it's gone,

you know. Yeah.

And then this other guy came came one day and he goes, yeah, I want it. He goes, I'll give you, I'll

give you a deposit right now and then I'll transfer the rest of you tomorrow game. The deposit next day.

Money was in in my account. He came and picked it up and

then I told the guy misses going to sell the cars going to go.

Here's the give me your bank details so I can transfer it back to you. Yeah.

And that's it. Hey Cortana, do I gotta live

update for you boys? Hmm.

It's OK, fine. What's your pay ID so I can make

the payment and you mark the item sold on Marketplace, Do we trust that or is that Sammy? That's exactly happened to me,

but you can try. Too bad now.

Yeah, apparently it's fine because the money goes straight to your bank account. Just tell him.

No, same same day. It happens.

Just tell him that as as as as soon as I receive it, you can come pick it up too. If you don't receive it today,

you don't give it to them today. That's it.

What I heard is people have actually depositing money into peoples accounts and then going to their bank and saying oh I accidentally put this into account, the sale fell through or whatever and they've had the money reversed and have taken the item I've heard. That you have been doing that?

Really. They've been doing it on like

PayPal and things too. And they Wow.

Yeah, because you can easily just say on PayPal like, Oh yeah, you know, didn't get it or something like that.

I'm saying cash only for this car :).

Hmm. I mean if you really want you

can just get ATM and pull. Cheap car.

Go on ATM, get cash. It's cheap.

You'll have to do withdrawals, isn't it?

And that's if they've got free grade in the ATM.

That ain't my problem. You can't even go to it's all

went to the back the other day to buy right now.

I think I was buying a character at the time and they go, sorry, we don't have that sort of money in our counter.

You'd have to go to the ATM. That's part of the bank.

Yeah, what's the point of? Had that happen as well, that I

think it was nab like I was, I went inside the branch and they're like, oh, we can only give you as much as the ATM, ATM would give you. I'm like, why would that's part

of the branch, Is part of the branch more money?

So I went to another branch and then, you know, then I got the whole, you know, grilling over. What do you need?

What do you need? Like small money.

Just give him money. I'm obviously buying drugs.

They'll leave me alone. I'm going, yeah, yeah, Even I

also learned when I was going in when I was actually bought the charger, you know, I had to go and get the money.

I was obviously a big amount of money.

So I actually called him up and I booked the money in like 3 days in advance. So they'll have it there.

And then I went in, I just picked up.

And then even then they're like 50 million questions were coming at me. I'm like.

I got. I told him I got my car.

That's it? Yeah.

Like what? What do you want?

Yeah. No.

They're gonna legally do it. When Harley sold the Baron,

Merki was in hospital, so I didn't see it.

But the guy came with 48 grand cash when?

I. Was a good little money spinner

for you, Rob, wasn't it? Then It was.

A bad spinner. Yeah, it was pretty good.

Oht look like I put in a lot of effort to bring it up to respect. Yeah, you put a lot of hours.

Into it, yeah, yeah. But it was a good money spinner.

You don't get that everyday, no. No, yeah, I'm gonna probably put

it back online and that's it. And I'll be like, sorry mate,

I'm just, you know, until you transferring the rest of the coinage, you know, getting the. Car.

Oh, you won't, Matt. You're too nice.

So did you actually cancel the club permit on that?

Did you? Just haven't.

I just didn't renew. It just expired.

Yeah. So I was like, well, I'm not

gonna, I'm not gonna do it just in case.

I'm not gonna cancel it just in case, you know.

So obviously taking the plates off and everything when the car goes so. I can't believe you can't leave

a comment the straight with no plates so I'm trying the plates still in the car so that's why I'm I'm keeping on there for now. But anyway, moving on gentlemen,

to tonight's topic is now we mentioned earlier about about how important cars are, and then bring this topic up because I'm reading a book currently in. Yes, I'm with you read the book,

but I'm reading. But I'm reading a book, not

teacher. You're not reading about that.

Yes. It's only like the the

importance of of the automobile and and it's actually really good. I actually would recommend it to

all of you guys all OK try to get you guys and you know the name of it everything but basically where do you think cars rank in the pantheon of like all the automotive all the inventions ever made like how important is it and he got to mention this in the book a little bit of how important like a car is and and and why it's been such a powerful thing and it's and but the also means that it's potentially meeting its demise very very shortly in the next like 20 to 30 years as a as a as a form of you know. Transport for for us so.

Do you think it it stacks up as one of the most important inventions ever made. And two do you think anything's

been more important than the car in terms in terms of an invention like and if you say the goon bag on the on the on the what's called the clothesline that is that is not going to to to to to suffice. So you need to really think

about about a lot about this like because obviously, well, I mean we all like cars and appreciate cars, but do we think it's the most important invention that's that's happened in the last like let's say 300 years?

So I thought, I'd like to get your opinion gentleman, because in this book he talks about how important is and and he ranks it up right up there in the top three.

So what do you think? Tell players.

Look pretty good. You know that's up there.

True. I've been just to know what the

other two were as one of the penicillin.

Yeah, antibiotics. One was going to be the

aeroplane. Right.

Well, yeah, Aeroplane modern medicine I think was yellow one and and and yeah, so the telephone, my telephone doesn't get a rank, probably top ten, top 10.

It's used for too much gossiped. Not too much is it available?

Hold on. You know what I said last night

to someone? I said, I said I'm just gonna,

I'm gonna, I'm gonna reduce this thing down to two, nine.

It's A3250. Put two, nine and I'll go into a

frenzy. It'll be like throwing meat into

a pool of piranhas. Just watch them.

What's them Fight over it? Sorry.

I gotta ask, why advertise the car, say for $68,000?

He goes. Why 68?

I said. Oh well, let's just make it an

even 70. Then.

What? Why not 68?

68. What's your best price, Rob?

What's your best price? OK, its price is 100, but you

know, I don't think it's what you wanna pay.

I mean I had that guy come and look at the LCD and just and and just look at the Neath the car he's like oh man, it's it's yeah it's leaking all I'm like I'm like yeah I know and and he's like mate I went looked at a V8 one that was dry underneath achieve this. I'm like well buy that one.

He says like mate he's like you're dreaming asking 5 grand you're dreaming asking 4 grand mate he's like he's and he's like 90% of telling you dreaming asking 2 green he's and he said on his way he's like I don't think I'd even take him free.

This car needs too much work and I'm like, so you've come here just to scold me like I'm like good for you man see you later like it's. Yeah.

He's like started he's he's he's like oh you know it it runs alright but it it's you know it's a bit tricky.

I'm like, it's not picky at all. Like my you're you, you are, you

are hearing things. And anyway, I don't wanna get

into how how annoyed I was that. I would have burned a little bit

more. We could have burnt oil off the

dip as. Well, could have, could have,

should have, should have. I should have burned the whole

car at this point. To let it go, Rob.

Let it go. Yeah.

Anyway, but yeah so where do we, where do we see the cars in terms of intervention, how important it is and and why is it so important now I think you know and I'm looking at this as a holistic point of view and you know one competitor comes to mind the people's car, the Beatle.

You know it was it was made to mobilise people essentially.

You know in in you know be cheap to make easy, easy, easy to maintain your your, your grandmother could could you know could do do an oil change on it. You fix it.

Fix a few things. Yeah.

The importance of that, getting people that have never been in a car before, you know, into into town and into places instead of a horse. And and caught I think the

changes really revolutionised how how we how we we we we work so I. Mean.

Sorry man. I was just gonna say it was

exactly the same in Japan with K cars.

That's how they came about was to actually it was a step up from a motorbike basically that you kept your dry and and out of the rain and you could you know, take two or three or four people with you rather than jamming them onto a a motorbike in and risking certain death when it falls over.

Depends on the speed, David. I think a lot of people from the

Indian subcontinent would like to argue with you.

They have like 1000 people on a bus, yeah.

It's it's also you know yeah 55, you five people on the motorbike. Do yeah I like I I personally

think it's arguably you know the the most important thing for that reason you're right you're like immobilised people it it kept you dry it it like in the in the book he proceeds to say like it's it's so important for the fact that it not not because of what it can do but what it does holistically for us as in is in as individuals we hop into a team to a middlebox we turn the key we start we go we get to our location and then we we we do what we do come home start the car go back you know and just repeat the process over and over again.

Now there's there's no there's no real other object that makes you feel like you're connected with something.

As as as you do with the car there there's nothing that you can control Turn on turn it off you know fill it.

You do all the sort of things that you need to do as easy and as practically as a car. Yeah.

Yes you've got you've got different things like you like you like a house or an image of a house and it's an incredible thing but you you can't get from one part of the world to another part of the world in in a in a house.

So. So he proceeded to.

Say if it's a modern tiny house. The Winnebago you can.

Sure, Yeah, sure. Yeah, Yeah, sure.

Yeah. But like you know what I mean

right. Like it it's and and again

reading this book really really emphasised how important car cars were and how important cars are and and kind of like they are you know in a way kind of getting endangered in the form of like you know what we with the with the ever increasing fuel costs and and protests and Greta Greta Thunberg whatever name is. You know, it's all of these

things are, you know, are are really coming to play.

Like there there was a, you know, a band called NEO Activist in Sydney last week and I'm just like I'm like it's, you know, there are all these things as to why?

Car shouldn't shouldn't exist but then but then these are the people that are going home in a car so yeah you know you have to think logically well but I personally think it's the it's the most important invention one because it it gets people to go you can you can hop in something and go around 2:00 you create memories in it and you you can say oh I'm I want to do that in in my old XYZ you know thing And then it was it was a great great road trip with the family and and we we we we we packed up the combi and went for it went for a drive but three I think the most important one is that it makes you feel like you're in control

of something and it's and it's nothing else quite nothing no other invention. Really, besides a bike to, to an

extent can make you feel that way.

So I think that's why it's arguably for me the most important thing, you know, invention of a.

Transport. Transport.

Absolutely Export of Goods 100. Percent.

So trucks have made things. You know effortless to get

things now. With trucks and refrigerated

trucks to deliver everything you know.

Without that you could be waiting forever for certain things depending on where you live.

But because of trucks and they are super important so.

Especially when you go to Europe and see like the canal network and stuff over there because it all used to go go by by water previously. So you know a lot of the the the

towns are sort of built around the around the river network because that's that was where the goods and materials and food and and and all the consumable items were brought in by.

By riverboats, but once. Once the ICA engines were were.

Advanced enough and and the and the roads were built.

I mean, that just completely changed that aspect.

Of great You ever seen a pothole in a river?

In no potholes on the river. The Raven and it's running.

But there's parts, There's parts.

Parts on this Hidden rocks just destroy the bottom of your boat and next thing you know you're all gone for a swim.

And. Don't forget that Megalodons.

Missy You might find Missy in in in some water.

Sorry. I'm becoming more sceptical

about cars, cars of today though.

It's become more of a capitalist tool to keep us working, to keep on upgrading and buying cars and keep on working just to have a car to drive to work and drive home again like.

I like the fact that you buy a subscription service to certain parts of your car. Like if I own this application,

isn't it? How are you gonna let me

subscribe tomorrow? And heated seats like how dare

you. Yep.

It's BMW. Yeah.

Yeah. We're looking at you.

But like you know if again on to that point if I'm buying something I want it. It's in the car.

I'm having it like that's um and I don't know when he's on he discusses like you know Tesla like you can just upgrade to to get you know the autonomous features and all that stuff and and and well it's very cool that that the cars come with all that you know in built you've got to activate it.

It makes you feel like well why could the company just have it from the factory you know like what like like you know like ready to go. So you so you are right there

there Rob there. Yeah.

It's it's all it is, a bit of a capitalist society.

I think cars heading that way that's part of the demise about him but I also think the the EV side of things are you know now now now we're saying that you know it's it's it's more environmentally it's they're really not in in in to to to build the batteries are horrendous where you get cobalt from like it's it's a disgusting thing that and process that the the way the way they they they. Can't.

It's becoming a throwaway society.

Correct, correct. Yeah, some would argue they

keeping those African kids employed.

So someone or some would argue it's killing many many many people but the I think I think in a in a in a lot of ways like for example I I I shared in the chat the other day the that escort video I don't know if you got if you guys saw it about the the Ford Escort that was one owner car.

New Mexico. Yeah.

The escort Mexico and and basically they've had that since new then the old the old the the the the the grandfather now passed away and then he wanted to give it to his kids.

With kids like now what we don't want, we want to give it on and it's just like having such a car for like you know 40-50 years you know and enjoying it and and and loving it basically.

You know to the point where like we didn't need another car.

This is our car. You know we we we used it and we

used it and used it. Yeah you know it's we fixed it

when when it needed mending and and stuff like that.

You know, it really doesn't emphasise the point of like, do you really need to? Do you really need to buy it?

Buy another car. However however you know time is

changing. You need to update and things do

wear out. So there comes there comes to

that point. But I think we're just getting

rid of cars too far. Like I remember in the 90s

people driving cars from the 60s as daily drivers like all the time like and now if I'm looking at like for example I was I drive on the road and most of the time when I'm in the laser I'm driving the oldest car I can see you know like and it's and it's and it's and it's quite weird and it's and it's from the 2000s. So I think the I think the gap

the gap age is is getting is getting pretty pretty crazy.

Well, part of the reason for that is that the advent of 70 safety features and electronics in the cars.

And if the if the cars involved in any sort of accident and even you know if it's according to hail or something like that and the windows are broken, then the car will be written off.

Because I mean they can't, they can't actually guarantee the electrics won't deteriorated and malfunctioned down the track.

And if if you've got a car that's had water, get into it in any way then and you find the airbag sensors.

Corrode or something like that and send the airbags and off or not work when they're meant to. And then the insurance companies

are very sort of averse to, well, understandably averse to any sort of legal action is as far as that's concerned.

It's easy just to. Write the muffin.

Throw them away. We made of mine who I worked

with my law school. He had a Toyota Orion and he

loved it. He was his.

He had a 2014 Orion sportivo loved it, absolutely loved it.

You got nicked at the front of his house like you want to put his daughter inside and he came back out and he's like, yeah, like he had the key in his hand and they need the car.

Anyway he they found it was fine but they left all you know what's it called those syringes and stuff on the back seat and and and and and that the car was the car was totally fine but but he's like look. I don't know what else you gonna

find in there. It's a biohazard.

I got my kids and he's like, he's like it killed me to say goodbye to the car cause he's like the car started driving.

It was fine. But like they've obviously,

they've always been shooting up in the car and and and doing and doing all sorts of things and. Well this amount doesn't matter

get the blowups at at the at the back door but yeah but like you know he's like I didn't want to get rid of it he's like I love that car but he's like you know as a even the insurance company like as a liability kind of kind of you know consequence and everything else it was better just a buyer has the whole car and send it to the tip and and and you know goodbye to it so so he was he was pretty devastated about that so you know it's it's there's also there's also different ramifications that that that come along with it but like for example the all those those little old old Nanas and stuff that had the those.

What were they the. The balance.

Starts. Yeah.

The ones with the airbags, they didn't bother, you know, fixing them. They're like that.

We're taking him, crushing him. I'm like, these were these were

working fine cars forms of transport and and and that they're gone. So again, the capitalist society

kind of really, really, really emphasised that.

But that's part of the problem. They weren't giving a fair,

like, shake for those cars either.

Weren't. I don't think so.

I I think. I think they could sort of more

money. Yeah.

Like if the card were fixed and you sold them at that market failure, I think they would've got more money.

But here's the issue. If you were to sell the car, you

couldn't sell it. Because you couldn't sell it,

but if if like. But I had actually fixed the

issue rather than going out. Yeah.

And that's that's that's The thing is like, OK, yes, the car is only worth $1500 or $2000, right.

But it's still a working car. Are you going to replace it with

an equally well working car that you can guarantee?

You know, if the person had this car since new, don't know exactly what's wrong with it, what's good with it.

You know, they've been on top of the maintenance.

Hopefully we're going to give them another car of similar value that could be opening a Pandora's box for like, you know, maintenance issues, that sort of thing.

Yep, but they just want to do. The original starlet.

They're they're great little car but like you know all those good versions of those cars just got destroyed.

Like I mean to be fair someone would have been destroyed like hammered anyway but like it's it's you know it's the whole point of like you know I remember as as a even in the early 2 that even when I got my licence that there was still people still driving cars in the 80s a lot.

Now I I barely see any cars in the 80s.

I barely see I've I've really never see cars in the 70s and you know all the cars I see in the last 10 to 15 years Max.

And I'm like I'm driving the I drive the oldest car in my car park like it's it's weird when I want to rock up to work you know like I'm no would have liked the oldest car in the car park.

And it makes me, it makes me say, you know, do we, you know is this another reason why the car is declining.

But also you know, listening back to, you know if if it's if it's such an if it's arguably the best, the most important invention and and things of all time the the, the way that these cars are just, you know, going out in a fashion.

Oh, it's not it's not worth to fix out the door.

Does that make it also a big problem And you know that doesn't make its title of a very important item.

You know a top three or you know inventions of all time.

Not not valid. Where it's going.

But what you need to do is you need to look at what.

Space are doing with their cars, with their spare parts and by car that you can buy spare parts or to keep it going.

So, so whatever race based test, that's the car you should be buying. So I know I'm sort of not.

Sort of going directly about what the invention about a car is. But I think the more smarter the

car is and the more smarts and more uniqueness they put into these cars with all the the the the different dashes and and so on, the harder it is going to is to to be able to keep it on the road in the future. So the more advanced we are,

everything's going to be made to throw away, and that's unfortunate. Um.

And and cars are designed for planned obsolescence now anyway, so that they're designed to fail like, you know, the Mercedes wiring looms and stuff like that.

Yeah. You know so.

It's first grader board, Rob, you know.

That's right. So so getting back to getting

back to the main topic here of like do we think it's one of the most important if not the most important invention and why prose for that I think as we as Scotty said you know just transport in general like really it really helped it helps you know revolutionise and and you know it's it's it's it's like in grant grand scheme of things you know mobilise humanity in a in a way that that would never been able to be to be done before.

But getting looking at the bad side of that, we obviously get the the capitalists, you know, you know slash you know planned obsolescence that that that comes along with them.

What are the other negatives that car?

Accidents. Car accidents?

OK, I was gonna say that. Deaths.

Like there is with this extra power that we've got, you know humans that are normally made to be going, you know, depending on your walking base, 5 to 8 kilometres an hour and now going at 60 to 100 depending on the situation.

And you know when you come to a sudden stop, think good things don't happen. You know, we weren't initially

made to go be going at those speeds and our boys aren't capable of. With, you know, standing impacts

of those sorts. But that's what happens on the

roads every day in some parts of the world a lot more, some parts of the world a lot less, you know, depending on what kind of safety programmes they've got. But it's it's one of those I

guess. The necessary evils in a way

that we look at that obviously we all want to own cars and we all want to be able to drive, you know, with our choice of where we're going. But that creates a lot of people

on the road that maybe shouldn't be on the road, whether it's because they're impaired or they just, you know, otherwise distracted with mobile phones that's intoxicated, you know, so they're just going to cause an accident possibly and their own life or somebody else's life, you know, and that's what you know, I think most of us know somebody who's been touched by a bit of Rd trauma. So it's definitely a big

negative that's come from this sense of freedom that we do have and and. Control, but you know.

Can go away, yeah. The prize that being like

Australia is such a remote country is it's opened up the country. Whereas it doesn't matter in the

city, your car, you can more or less take it or leave it.

It's the people. It's somewhat distance away from

our, you know, a large city or town that can still go, go to the doctors, hop in their car and get there within that hour or two hours. Whereas if we didn't have that,

that they'd be waiting at a train station for an hour or two. Transport sucks.

Yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna throw back to the the control thing. Maybe it's it is like as you

said it's one of those small things in some cases that it's going to yours, it's individualised.

In a lot of cases, like in Australia at least, we're pretty lucky enough to have on average one car per person in in most situations and and a lot of households.

Not Edward. One or more, one or more in some

cases. But I've got the whole more,

yeah. Yeah.

There are obviously some families that share a single car, but I'd say it's always. Interesting.

When they do the census, you know, it's like how many cars are registered to this household. 20.

Registered. That's the question.

This club permit and there's registration.

That's a permit. That's not registration exactly.

But, you know, just maybe 3 and so sorry, Alan.

It's all right there. But it's it's it can be such an

individual. I think it's like this is my

car. You know, I do invite guests and

just, you know, sitting once, but it is my cards for me to kind of, you know, go where I want.

And it's just that sounds really like normally most people share houses. You know, with your spells not

saying it's a communist thing. It's just, you know, see you do

that. But with your car, it's a lot of

times this is my one. I'm driving it.

It can be your escape in certain situations.

You know, you just you might not feel comfortable at home in some cases. And it's just you hop in and you

go somewhere it can take you. It's not just your transport to

work or you know, transport to, you know whatever you need to do. It's transports for things that

you want to do and it's just there can be that freeing, so freeing. Like I think one of the biggest

things during our age was getting our licence, being able to get in the car and go where you want that, that sense of freedom. And it comes definitely with

responsibilities but it's hard to beat that taste of freedom.

And I I never understood certain children that are like, oh you know, it's it's alright, I'll get my licence when I get it.

Some of them I think is just lazy.

Others are mooches, you know, straight up mooches trying to get rid of other people. But that sense of ultimate

freedom of you can grab the keys, you can get in the car and you can go where you want. Yeah, that is a heartbeat

experience. Absolutely and.

Security. I'm just saying with that, yeah,

you get that false sense of security, so you feel so comfortable in your environment, your car, no matter where you go and whatnot. He's out again.

So think about all the consequences when you're in that car as well, because you do feel so secure.

And I think in the book like to to to echo what you're saying that Alan like he does mention that.

You know, it's it's an it's a thing that can take you to another, to another part on another place and really quickly and really effectively and nothing else can do it quite like a car. So and my telephone card.

No telephone can't a plane. It takes you further away, but

you know there's there's a bit more, but there's so much more around planes, airport security, everything.

It's an occasion when you're in a plane most of.

The time, it's a sense of occasion you, but like in a car, like you can go, go sit at the front of, like drive, drive to, you can drive down the road and stop at the beach and be like, Oh yeah, have lunch, go home like, you know, like you can go to go to a different part of the world.

In in your little middle box where you can just put your tunes on. It like do.

You know and and just and just just sit by yourself and drive your way there and drive your way home and it's and it's all it's all honestly it's I think for for that one reason and reason alone is probably the most important invention.

Drive all the way up the seat and have a picnic with your mates. You know that it's it's hard to

beat experience. You know, yeah.

So yeah. So think about the question is,

what is one thing that you that you have got now that you wouldn't want to live without? Sorry.

So you said ASL, Yes, I I've driven the old camera without it and don't like locking wheels. Yeah, yeah, Happy with it.

And Rob, you're the same. Yes.

Pretty much IBS. Power steering.

Are you a weak man? Come on.

Don't sit there. I don't wanna do gym while I'm

trying to drive the car. You.

Know my first laser right. It it had it had no power

steering it had air conditioning no power steering and I were going to Adam Grass's house and and it was it was in his driveway and Kemper you remember Andrew Kemper was the guy used to go to school with was like it was like oh can I'll move your car because his car was in front of me.

He's like I'll be there for you and I'm going to see him like reefing this through like this he's like what's wrong with your car What's wrong with your car. I'm like man's gonna pay Searing

he's like he's like a country. I'm like I'm like mate I've got

these guns. I don't.

I don't need to. You don't need to worry about

that. Right.

But yeah, for you power steering it so.

There's a lot, there's a lot you can do without, like radio, you know? Yeah, I mean, ohhhhh, yeah,

that's that's, that's actually true.

But I'm sitting in the car. I just take a Bluetooth speaker.

Well, music. Music in the cows.

They're musics. Good.

I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll wave a flag for reverse camera.

I do like a reverse camera. Get out.

Oh yeah. Wow.

Good one, he clapped back. A car?

Come on. I can, I can back a carriage.

Just makes it easier. Yeah, I mean.

I said I wanted to reverse camera, the guy said to me, because 4 feet long. Why do you need to reverse

camera exactly David? Exactly.

Well, I need it because I can now reverse it into my garage, which is like a game of Tetris trying to fit everything in and it goes in. Your garage is all you do is you

throw the car in neutral, you turn it off, throw neutral, just push it to the final distance. Which is exactly what I do with

the cast that don't ever It's it's the old school way.

It's and then you know it's there's nothing wrong with it.

I think the power steering one is definitely closer to it.

It's nice to have. It's very nice to have and you

only really appreciate it once you hop in the car with no power steering like I did in India. And I was like, oh, we're doing

this now. Level 1 Central locking.

Yeah, that's a good one. Very handy.

They run to the car, you know, the driver always gets in first, then we're like, David, open the door.

It's funny how you had the full manual locks like we all grew up with or Dave and Rob at least and I grew up with and then and then you got like my Tarago where the drivers doors the manual key lock and then there's the button inside that that does all the rest And my dad's fair lane in 86 exact same year as my target was the same. It wasn't central off the

drivers door but there was a a button inside that did the rest.

So you know this sense of power when you know dad would open the door and. Now the rest of you plebs can

get in. Yeah, probably.

Our first car with central locking was our 91 Camry and I I was just like pressing the button.

Yeah, I was blown away. I was like, this is the coolest

thing ever. Broke the soul.

And the painting is of course had the pneumatic central locking that works off the vacuum and they, you know the drivers door being the master and then the others would all follow suit gradually a little bit slower.

So it's like dumb and they you know the the drivers.

I think it's the drivers side back door is the last to go.

So it's like front, front, back, back sort of thing.

For the air conditioning vents. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And when it goes wrong and when it leaks, yeah, that's when you're looking buggers up. Yeah.

For me actually, Neil, having a few cars with it and installing, don't you say CarPlay? Android Auto, Apple CarPlay.

It's actually. It is the best thing I've ever

had in a car. Like I feel naked without it.

It's like it's like I had a guy described this to me at work.

His name is Brian. He's like.

It's like being able to see like.

He's like, he's like, he's like, which?

Is important when you're driving a car, I'm gonna say.

Sure, sure. He's he's like to me he's like

he's like it's my whole world. I feel like it's opened up with

with with Android Auto, Apple CarPlay it's it's just like and yeah, like it's got my lasers got it you know my Forester had it. Fiestas got it done hoping the

Typhoon. I'm like, I feel like a player.

You do. You do feel like a player.

Like I I have to bring the Falcon back from the mechanic.

I was like, I just, I took my Airpods with me.

It's plugged those in. I'm like, dude, did you know

that's what you got to do? But you do feel like you're

missing out. Especially there's a new feature

on on CarPlay. After the iPhones get an update,

who is playing the music? If you've also got iPhones, you

can basically ask request songs oht what So you can line up songs. On the playlist.

Yeah, that's cool. Which is pretty sweet because

frequently in the car with Christian he never lets anyone else playing music. And Christian, if you listening,

you text music as shit, you know.

So we would love the idea of you know just throwing in our own bangers and now you can do that basically in the in the future.

That's cool. So like.

In the future, September. 23 But it's it's one of those niceties

again having a bit of entertainment in the car for drivers that aren't necessarily an occasion it can take the money out and that's I think it is important to have that.

But but like, it's good because you've got your maps straight away. You've got your music, you've

got. Speed cameras.

Speed cameras if you get a text message that can read it out for. You and read it out and you can

get your phone out just. Cause A50 car pile up like you

can. Sometimes you don't want text

messages. That, that that is, that is

true. I've got a funny story.

I got a funny story on that. So my my friend Tom, who's been

on this podcast, was with me at my brochure collection.

I think it was last weekend, maybe the one before.

So Tom and I are out there in the garage going through these brochures and he's got a selection he's looking at.

I've got someone looking at and my dad takes a photo of us and texts my mum and it said Ed and Tom are in heaven now, you know.

We sent the product. No, he's meaning we're in heaven

because we're looking at brochures.

We we're loving it. You know Mum was driving the

Yaris Cross and of course doesn't get the image, she just gets the text read out that says Ed and Tom were in heaven now and she's like, what? Breaks out of rings.

My dad, what's happened? What's happened, you know?

And he goes, what are you talking about?

Did you get the picture? She's like, no.

I was like. Yeah, OK.

OK. Brochures at the time.

Yes. Return my ones to you, Edward.

By the way, I've finished reading them.

They're awesome. Yeah, that's right.

My collections little light on. Yeah, you'll be getting it back.

I've finished reading them. You can have it back.

He's not leaving the country. As long as I still like to know

where they are, you know. Yeah, it's OK.

He's selling them. Available for people to

interact. It goes through with the.

No, it does not really sweeten the deal letter brochure.

But no, look, it's for for me, like, you know, hopping in the M2, all the skin for that matter, you know, not having a car that's got got that. I'm just like.

I can't hear you feel, you feel a bit naked without it now.

Like, I think because I think we've gotten so, you know, I've been so, you know, reliant for like the last four years having in the forest and everything. And it was weird because like

what? I didn't have it in when I I

didn't have a car with it for forever until I hopped in the Forester. And I was like, I was like, oh,

this, this is great. Like, why didn't we have this

before? And now, like, what happened

with it? I'm like, yeah, this is crap.

Like, this is, this is, this is this.

This is just not, not not the same.

But for me, one thing that I couldn't live without you, like I could live without power, power steering.

I could. I could live without, you know,

central locking. I I think, you know like Brian

said it's like being able to see.

But actually one thing I wouldn't be able to live with live without is is air conditioning on a 45 degree day.

I think air conditioning is definitely worth the the time especially on a on a car with like for example when my when my Mercedes one didn't work because nothing worked in that car.

Sticking to the MB text was not a fun time but then when I did work it was the best. I was like oh this is amazing.

So yes. I think as you young bucks get

older, one thing you won't be able to live without is land keepers, sexist and adaptive cruise control.

Control is really good. I actually missed that from the

Ranger. See, I actually, actually, I'm

quite addicted to it now in the in the DMAX, once I put on you know the the line keep and then the the cruise control.

Yeah, there's been a few times. I'm like, hey look Julian, no

hands because the car return enough, you know and if the turners are too sharp, yeah it'll turn in the lane and then eventually it gets angry at you and they put chances.

But it's always fun. Little goof to somebody who has

an experienced it before. It's it's a bit of a weird one.

Get to the quiz. All good quiz time.

Quiz. Alright gentlemen, time for the

quiz. Neil, just so you know my phones

here, they can't see it that the the gentleman that are sitting beside me. So I'm going to get up my.

But they can we have a quick ruling can we quick ruling, just quick ruling. I'd like if everyone else agrees

we want to put like a 15 second limit on how long you could take to guess because it always says Ed 1st and then take extra time to think about the you didn't think about the question while the rest of us are still thinking and we.

Have 15 seconds? No, you said there for more than

15 seconds. I'm saying they should be.

You do, you say immediately, and then you're like, then you start thinking about it. You're running it through well.

Fucking tears off, deals off. So as as all the contestants.

Who agrees with that? Everyone.

Scotty, of course. Yeah, of course you're gonna get

all. Right now look at yeah, we can

look anymore. There's a 15 second limit

otherwise the question then gets the next person gets answer.

You don't get marked as zero for that.

You will have another try if you feel like it, but you you lose your exclusivity to answer question.

So what are you saying? He doesn't want any.

Millionaire like hot seat answers are, you know my grandma had one of those, but it was this.

But it was like, yeah, there's no, we're not going to break here. You know we're not gonna come

back after breakfast and get all dark screens and everything else. Going longer than 15 seconds you

have it. I'm just saying.

Well, we'll have to go back through the catalogue and fly and fly when you have time, Rob. Just just.

Just just just for, just for for good.

And he's bringing, he's bringing his timer up, his stopwatch up.

So he's he's. Alright, I'm ready.

Alright guys, you know questions.

Long time to not come up with an answer. 10 questions Possible

This question Let's get into it Question one The Mitsubishi Magna had a life on sale in Australia Of how many years?

David. David.

And he released in 85, went through to 2000 and OHS Andrew.

I'm channelling Andrew. 2004. How many years was it on sale?

OK. That would be 19.

That quickly right there was the answer, David.

I said 19. 19 is incorrect. OHS 11/17 incorrect.

How many years has it on sale? Rob.

Rob. And what was that?

20. 20 is absolutely correct. It was on sale for 20 years.

Exactly, Rob. So.

Well done. I'll give you one bonus

question. The four cylinders that were

that were available with the Magnum were called the Astron 2.

What was the name of the Sixes? Alum.

Alum got in there first, Astron. 33 is it correct?

OK. And this quiz.

Edwards, Edwards, Your your your time.

You said next. And I know my vet came later,

but I'm losing my Dick. But I think that.

Yeah, yeah. It's not my mic.

I give up. What?

You said that that's motorsport. Might be my Dick, but then I

that was newer that. Yeah, that was newer.

Anybody else wanna help? Hazard a guess before I buzz you

all out. David David David was the

cyclone. Cyclone V6's cycle correct.

Well done. David Prince side the cyclist

recently. 6 engines. Question two How many

generations have BMW 8 Series? Have there been?

Ed. Ed. 2.

Two is absolutely correct that well done.

Like. Every two seconds.

I like everybody just starts. This is the time about the other

it's getting really competitive. It question three, can you just

say cheer KHC Chia, the Drift King?

Sorry again. OK you Chi OHSU Chia the Drift,

King Dori Dori himself, They believe God comes in the form of him featured in which movie series besides The Fast and the Furious? So he was in a Japanese movie

series that he was in virtually all of the films as one of the main characters. What was that series film called

Alright in one of the movies? Did the guy driving reverse

really fast and then do Jay Turner Dr forward into AJ Turner starting question? Can't remember.

That's all I know. They have Scotty you you should

know this cause you mentioned this.

I mean the reason I watched. Them I know, and I'm trying to

remember what they were called. Well, we're not so few weeks.

Slowness of yours is incorrect torrent.

You guys are all out 1111. Speed.

Correct. It's Sunday expressways and

stuff. They race around there.

Don't. Wait, wait.

What did you say? Shooter something Shooto.

That's the first words, correct? Oh.

Shit, talking mushrooms. She talking mushrooms is

incorrect. Edward Scotty.

Give you toast something I can't remember.

I'm a go for second half. Yeah, Shooter Wangen.

Shooter Wang is incorrect. 20 seconds.

It's incorrect. It's gonna give you a point for

no one else is guessing. I think here it was called the

shooter kazoku trial is what it is, what it was.

Right. Yeah, that's such a niche

question. I got only one person.

A chance to get this. Alright, next question is

closest to now Edwards all about buying Suzuki Swift currently so and selling suggests that matter.

So because you're selling suits, what is the current base model Suzuki Swift GL. So for closest to you will get

the chocolates Ed. Ed. $26,000. 26 cases and Tyrone

is in the next. 2399. 2399 he says no 21990. 21990, says Alan,

2199. 990 You know this? Yep.

Who else wants to have? How's it?

I guess there's no story item. 28 OK.

So, David? 21 and 490. 21490 I swear to

God, David, and swear to God and.

Scotty. 20. 620-6990 Drive away, No more. 26999 driveway, no more

to pay, unbelievably to the dollar.

Tyrone Carell 23990 is what it is, what it starts out well.

Done. Like a $16,000 car back in the.

Day. Yeah, it used to be.

RIP. I'm assuming you know this

because Mel was going to look at one, wasn't she?

At one at one point and that was probably the no, no, no, I've never, I've never seen it but I knew like there were there were under 20 like. Ages, Ages ago, yeah.

Now I was sort of comparing close to like the Corolla, you know? Yeah, roughly within that range,

the base model. 23992 this dollar was Tyrone.

Well done. That should get three points.

You should get three points. Question five What was the

reason that the Mercedes 500 EW 124 was sent to Porsche for work? Ed.

And so people can say, oh, it wasn't built to Porsche.

It was sent there to to get some stuff.

Out there and it was sent back and back and it went there.

Well, that's the reason. 15 seconds.

Yeah, keep ticking something. Do it.

They didn't answer that. They have a wide enough

production. While.

He was like to do with the. With that, I'll pay that, I'll

pay that. The guys were too wide to fit on

the standard production line they had.

They had pumped guards because of the big news.

Bonus question, how many transmissions were available with the 500 EO? Alan.

Two incorrect. Alright, Scott got in there. 1.

One absolutely. It was a automatic only squad

check Robin, one Tyrone on one, David on one, Scotty on 1.5 and

currently leading his head on 2 ohm yet to.

Score drawing best, right? Question.

Yeah, Alum. Alum.

Shut up. Question 6 The 1.5 litre Mazda

MX5 shares most of its engine components with one other Mazda.

Ed. Edd.

Mazda. 2 Mazda 2 is absolutely correct.

It is virtually taken out of them as a two and put transversely well. Don't be with that, Alan.

Yes. Bonus question the two leader

comes from what other means the rank 11?

Fully correct. Well done, Alan.

Got got in there. Happy with that, Ed.

Great. Yeah, I like it.

You know you met this. Question seven, yeah this is a

point H for for for for this the whole and Astra convertible in the TS generation. So the first TS like the first

convertible generation we got, I don't think we got the the, I don't think we got Astra convertible before that here was available with two engine choices and what were their sizes. One of them is a 2.2, Alam said.

At first he was at 2.2 Ed for the other one. 1.9.

Incorrect. There's Tyrone.

Incorrect. OHS Alan 1.6.

Incorrect. So that there are 2.2 David.

True leader. True leader correct. 22 litre

turbo. It was the other it was the

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