Is This the The Prius of Ferraris?Overcrest · Jun 10, 2026
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Term
heritage quote brand
A “heritage” brand is a company that people associate with a long history and famous past. The host is basically saying some people see Ferrari as a legacy brand, while others see it more through racing and raw engineering.
Motorsport just means car racing. The host is saying people often connect Ferrari to racing first, and then to what that racing reputation means for the cars.
“W123” is a Mercedes-Benz model generation. People like the W123 wagon because it’s sturdy and has a big enthusiast community, so you can modify it—like adding a body kit—without it feeling totally impractical.
“W124” is a Mercedes-Benz model generation that many enthusiasts like. A W124 wagon is a good starting point if you want a classic-looking wagon you can customize with things like a body kit.
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous supercar from Lamborghini. It’s known for its very distinctive look and high-performance reputation. People bring it up because it’s one of the most recognizable classic Lamborghini models.
The Volvo V70 R is a sportier version of the V70 wagon. It’s still a wagon you can use every day, but it’s tuned to feel more exciting to drive than a regular V70.
The Wagon R is a small wagon-style car made by Suzuki. It’s designed to use space efficiently so you can carry people and cargo even though it’s compact. The podcast brings it up as part of a wagon discussion.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. It’s designed for fast driving and is popular with car enthusiasts. People bring it up because it’s a well-known performance model from Japan.
The Toyota Celica is a sporty Toyota car, smaller than a pickup and built for driving enjoyment. It’s known as a classic “enthusiast” model from Toyota’s lineup. The podcast brings it up because it’s a recognizable Toyota sports car.
The Audi TT is a small sporty Audi with a very recognizable look. Here they’re talking about how the interior materials from early models can wear out or degrade over time.
They mean the interior surfaces can get sticky over time. Some older “soft-touch” coatings don’t age well, so the material can turn tacky and unpleasant.
JDM means “Japanese cars for the Japanese market.” In this episode, it’s used to say the cars being discussed are the kind of Japanese imports people get excited about.
A body kit is extra exterior styling parts added to a car, like different bumpers and side pieces. The host is saying they prefer cars that have that modified look.
Box flares are the chunky, squared wheel-arch extensions you see on some older cars. They make the tires look wider and can also help fit bigger tires.
Audi quattro refers to Audi’s all-wheel-drive setup. It helps the car send power to more than just the front or rear wheels, improving traction. In the podcast, it’s mentioned while talking about the look and size of a specific Audi-style car.
The Volkswagen Fox is a small older VW hatchback. People like it because it’s compact and straightforward to work on.
Concept
driven death car
“Driven death car” sounds like a nickname for a car that’s not in great shape but is still being driven. People use terms like this for projects where they’re constantly fixing or swapping parts to keep it alive. In this segment, it seems tied to getting an engine to fit and work.
The oil pan is the part underneath the engine that holds the engine oil. The oil pan is important because the engine needs that oil to stay lubricated. If the oil pan is damaged or leaking, the engine can run low on oil.
3D scanning is like using a special tool to measure an object’s shape very precisely. People use it to design parts that fit correctly without rubbing or leaving gaps. In this case, it’s helping them make a custom oil pan that matches the space.
It’s basically how much space the car has under it. The host is checking whether the bottom of the car will scrape when going over something like a speed bump.
A subframe is a strong metal frame underneath the car that holds important parts. It’s part of what determines how low the car sits and what might scrape on bumps.
Motor mounts are the parts that hold the engine in place. They also help reduce vibration, and they can be involved when you have to lift or drop the engine for repairs.
This tube is how the engine’s oil pump pulls oil from the oil pan. Getting it wrong can cause oil pressure problems, which is why it matters during reassembly.
Brand
Mike Bros.
This is the name of the person the host is texting for help. They’re asking for technical details about a transmission so they can figure out a part fitment.
ZF is a company that makes transmissions. The host is asking for a 3D scan of a ZF transmission because they’re working around the flywheel area and need to understand the parts’ shapes.
The flywheel is a heavy spinning part connected to the engine. It helps the engine’s power delivery feel smoother, and it’s usually covered so debris can’t get into the moving parts.
The bell housing is the cover area between the engine and the gearbox. It’s where the clutch area sits, so when you open things up you can see parts of the clutch system inside it.
The BMW E34 is an older 5 Series generation. Here it’s mentioned because its oil pan design can include a built-in part that helps keep oil where it belongs during aggressive driving.
A windage tray is a small baffle inside the engine’s oil pan area. It helps keep the oil from splashing around when the crankshaft spins fast, which reduces foaming and drag.
The crankshaft is the rotating shaft in an internal-combustion engine that converts the up-and-down motion of the pistons into rotational motion. Because it spins at high speed, it can churn oil; that’s why oil control features like windage trays matter.
Aeration means oil gets mixed with air and starts to foam. That foam can make the oil less effective at lubricating and can add extra drag inside the engine.
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric vehicle shaped like a modern version of a classic bus. It’s designed to carry people and feel roomy. The podcast is talking about how parts are mounted and how that differs from older, gas-engine designs.
Stroke is the distance the piston travels from its lowest point to its highest point in an engine cylinder. A longer stroke changes where internal parts sit in relation to each other, which can affect clearance—like whether the bottom of the connecting rods could contact a windage tray.
Connecting rods (often called rods) are the link between the pistons and the crankshaft. Their length and the engine’s geometry determine how close they come to nearby components, so a clearance issue could show up as contact with something like a windage tray.
An oil change is when you drain old engine oil and put in new oil (and often a new filter). It keeps the engine parts from grinding and helps the engine stay cool.
A lifter (often a hydraulic valve lifter) is part of the valve train that transfers camshaft motion to the engine’s valves. If a lifter “ticks” or fails, it can reduce valve control and potentially lead to serious engine damage, which is why it’s a big concern during prep for hard events.
A dipstick is a tool you use to check how much engine oil is in the engine. You pull it out, wipe it, put it back in, and then look at the oil level on the stick.
Weber carburetors are parts that help an older engine mix fuel and air. People use them for better tuning and a more responsive feel compared with some stock setups.
The Chevrolet C10 is an older Chevrolet pickup truck. People like it because it’s a classic truck that’s popular for repairs and modifications. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as something someone was working on.
Low compression means the engine doesn’t squeeze the fuel-air mixture as tightly before it ignites. That usually makes it harder to make big power and can limit how high the engine wants to rev.
An M90 supercharger is a device that forces extra air into the engine. More air usually means more power, even if the engine isn’t naturally built to rev high.
Manifolds are the plumbing-like parts that guide exhaust and/or intake air to the engine. If you’re building or modifying an engine, the right manifolds matter because they affect fit and airflow.
An electric fuel pump is the part that pushes gasoline to the engine. If the original fuel system doesn’t deliver enough or correctly, an electric pump can be the fix.
Some fuel pumps use a flexible membrane (a diaphragm) that moves to pull fuel in and push it forward. The idea here is whether a mechanical diaphragm pump could do the job instead of an electric one.
“Triple carbureted” means the engine uses three carburetors to feed fuel. Carburetors are older-style fuel systems, and they can be more work to keep running smoothly than newer fuel injection.
A header is the part of the exhaust system that bolts to the engine and collects exhaust gases. Changing it usually means you may need to adjust the rest of the exhaust pipes to fit and work correctly.
Term
counter-flow head
A “counter-flow head” is a special engine head design that changes how air and exhaust move through the engine. Because of that, the exhaust piping layout has to be planned carefully so everything lines up and flows the way the design intends.
A Porsche 924 is an older Porsche sports car. Here, they’re saying they need to get their yellow one running again, likely because it has been sitting and the fuel has gone bad.
Fuel pressure is basically how hard the fuel system is pushing gas to the engine. If the car won’t run after sitting, checking fuel pressure helps figure out whether the pump or fuel delivery is the problem.
Morris Motors is a local shop/dealer in Sacramento that’s involved in getting the car ready. They’re where the tires and setup work are being handled before the car is driven.
Alignment is how the car’s wheels are aimed and tilted. If it’s off, the car can feel weird and tires can wear unevenly; fixing it makes the car track straight and handle better.
Rake is the difference in ride height between the front and rear of a car. A “weird rake” can change weight transfer and handling balance, so correcting it (along with alignment) can noticeably change how the car feels.
Tread blocks are the chunky parts on the tire that actually touch the road. If they get chopped up, the tire won’t grip as well and may need to be replaced.
This means a tire that’s built to grip well, but still be usable year-round. It’s trying to be “sporty” without forcing you into only one season of use.
Toe is whether the tires point slightly toward each other or slightly away from each other. If toe is off, the car can feel unstable and the tires can wear quickly.
A straight axle is a truck-style suspension where the left and right wheels are connected by one rigid axle. It can limit how much you can fine-tune alignment compared with independent suspension.
“Truck arms” are the suspension links that hold the axle in place and control how the wheels sit. On some setups, you can tweak mounting points to help alignment.
The Cadillac V16 is an old Cadillac car known for having a very large engine with 16 cylinders. It’s a rare, special model that people talk about because it was built to be exceptionally powerful for its time. The podcast is highlighting it as something impressive and unusual.
They’re talking about a specific Ferrari model (they call it “luce”) and comparing it to another luxury tech/vehicle thing. The important part is that it’s a named Ferrari product, not just “a Ferrari.”
“EU regulations” refers to rules set by the European Union that automakers must follow for things like emissions, safety, and other compliance requirements. Here, the speaker claims the product is built to meet those requirements, implying engineering and design choices are driven by legal compliance.
Term
stock crashed
They’re talking about the company’s stock price dropping fast. The point is that online people focus on that, but the product’s buyer supposedly doesn’t care as much.
The Ferrari Testarossa is a famous supercar made by Ferrari. It’s known for its distinctive look and being a high-performance, collectible car. The podcast mentions it as one of the well-known expensive Ferrari models.
This is the car’s automatic shifting system, and it only has three forward gears. Fewer gears can make the engine feel less “optimized” than in newer cars with more gears.
A V12 is an engine with 12 cylinders arranged in two banks that form a V shape. It’s usually known for being smooth and having a lot of power potential.
A “halo car” is the brand’s most impressive, reputation-defining model—the one that makes the company look great. It’s often not the cheapest or most typical car the brand sells.
The Ferrari 400i is a Ferrari grand tourer with a V12 engine. It’s being talked about as a Ferrari that doesn’t get as much love as other Ferraris, even though it still has the classic Ferrari “V12” appeal.
“Positioning” is how a company decides what the product is and who it’s for. If it’s “bad,” people may expect one thing from the car, but the brand delivers something else.
It’s a metaphor: the speaker is saying Ferrari is being treated like a normal, everyday car brand rather than a special enthusiast brand. The Prius is used as the example of a practical “commuter” car.
Tesla is an electric-car brand. Here it’s being used as an example of a car you treat like a normal daily driver rather than a special enthusiast machine.
An “appliance car” is a car you buy to do a job—get you around reliably—more than to feel special or exciting. It’s like how an appliance is chosen for usefulness, not passion.
A combustion engine is the usual gas-engine found in most cars. It makes power by burning fuel, and the host is saying the industry is moving away from that.
The EU is pushing rules that affect what car companies are allowed to sell. The host is saying Ferrari has to adapt because these rules are forcing the market toward cleaner cars.
An “electric-only halo hypercar” is a flagship, image-setting supercar built exclusively with electric power. “Halo” means it’s meant to showcase the brand’s technology and future direction, not just to be a mass-market product.
The Ferrari LaFerrari is a very expensive, high-performance supercar made by Ferrari. It uses a hybrid system, meaning it combines an electric component with a gas engine. The podcast is asking whether it’s electric or hybrid, and it’s the hybrid setup that matters.
A hybrid car uses two kinds of power: a gas engine and an electric motor. The electric part can help the car move faster and can recharge using braking.
Here, “mobility” basically means how people get around in the future. The speaker is saying Ferrari is trying to follow the direction the industry is moving toward, especially with electric tech.
They mean the Porsche 911. It’s a famous sports car that Porsche has kept looking and feeling similar for decades, so it’s often seen as a “heritage” brand.
An “homage” is a deliberate nod to something older. Here it means the car’s design is meant to remind you of earlier Ferrari styling, rather than being completely new.
In this context, “cutting edge” means the car is using the newest ideas available when it was made. The host is saying Ferrari tries to look and feel modern for its time.
The Ferrari Testarossa is a very recognizable older Ferrari. It’s famous for its bold look, and people often use it as a reference point for how Ferrari designs changed over time.
The Ferrari F40 is one of Ferrari’s most famous supercars. People bring it up because it’s known for being loud, fast, and very “old-school” in how it drives—like a race car you can use on the street.
The Ferrari Enzo is another iconic Ferrari supercar, from the early 2000s. It’s known for being a high-tech, extreme-performance “flagship” car, and it’s a common pick for people who grew up with more modern Ferrari icons.
“Everyday Ferrari” is basically the idea of a Ferrari you could drive every day. The host thinks Ferrari is trying to sell it like that, but the design and branding feel off to them.
That phrase means the steering wheel has three main arms/spokes. Car makers often use steering-wheel design as part of the car’s “look,” especially in more premium or performance models.
The Prius is a common hybrid car people associate with saving gas and getting around day-to-day. The speaker is using it as a joke/comparison to say Ferrari is marketing something like a practical daily choice.
Rolls-Royce is a luxury car brand associated with ultra-premium comfort, status, and chauffeur-style ownership. The speaker brings it up as an alternative comparison point for who might buy an extremely expensive car—suggesting buyers might be cross-shopping luxury brands rather than comparing to a mass-market hybrid like a Prius.
Your A/C uses refrigerant, and its pressure changes as it works. When the pressure gets too high, the car turns on the fans to help the A/C cool better.
OEM parts are the same type of parts the car originally came with. Aftermarket parts are made by other companies, and performance parts are meant to improve how the car works.
It’s a promise from the parts seller that if a covered part fails, they’ll replace it. The sponsor also says you can return items to get your money back.
The Corvette is a famous American sports car from Chevrolet. People often argue about it versus other sports cars like the Camaro, because it’s known for being quick and exciting to drive.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a performance car from Chevrolet, usually a two-door coupe. It’s known for having strong engines and a sporty look. People often mention it when talking about muscle-car style cars.
The Dodge Ram is a pickup truck made by Dodge. It’s designed for carrying cargo and towing, and it’s a well-known truck model. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as a recognizable “Ram” brand item.
The Toyota Tacoma is a pickup truck, meaning it has a cargo bed in the back. It’s made for people who want a truck that can handle daily use and some tougher driving. It’s a common, easy-to-recognize Toyota model.
The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck from Toyota. It’s meant for tasks like towing and carrying things, and it’s built to be comfortable for longer trips. People recognize it by its big truck proportions.
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So it's not in my mind a heritage quote brand whether they think it is is different than what the
World thinks they are the world defines Ferrari by motorsport by engine by noise by power by brutality
Especially everybody thinks if you were to go name the first Friday that comes to your mind every single person's gonna say f40
Nobody's gonna say a la Ferrari. They're just unless it's like well boy whose dad
I was gonna say depends on we were asking because it's always gonna be the Ferrari that was like the pinnacle of your generation
I I still think that 40 is what most people are gonna say regardless of what generation you're from
I don't know. I bet I bet anyone younger than our age would say the Enzo shame on their fathers
Hey guys, welcome to overcrest, I'm Chris and I'm Jake have a fun episode for you guys today
I've I've had the pleasure of actually working on a vehicle Jake. I've been working on some now
Say I didn't sell I have updates
okay
I
We've got a little bit of news later to some fun news episode. This is producer found one that she wants to chat about as well and
She wants us to she wants to talk. Well, I think
She wants to talk about
Talk to me about getting her a car cuz I well
She wants to set the record straight because after last week when we recorded I sent her photos of my
Macan that's for sale and she's reposts spawns. He was wrong. I don't like those well, but Jess
I'll give you a deal. It's gorgeous
Did you see the wheels? It's amazing
All right, well, let's let's start there. It was just Mrs. Producer turn your turn your stuff on here
What do you want?
Because I called you out of the discord and I said hey
And I posted a picture of your old rabbit, which we could probably pull that up
I'll pull that up while you
lambaste me or whatever is going on here, but
What do you want for a car because we went through this before and you said well?
I obviously know but what I like. What first of all, what do you what are you driving right now?
I am driving the station wagon. This is the last
The station wagon does not count the Mercedes wagon does not count. It is not a car. It is not a project
It's not your fun thing. Oh, so this that's what we're getting at. This is a fun
Chris said I wish that you would let me build you a car and I said yes
Go ahead build me a car, but then she said you know what I like, but I truly don't I truly do not know
What Mrs. Producer wants me to build ease a liar if it's boxy and
It's ugly a little bit ugly then I like it
Okay, that's so I don't I don't have a specific car in mind. It's what I'm hearing
I have lots of cars in mind. I could get it you again, but that's kind of that's not really
Talking about project cars. It's not a project car
I would like a w123 or a w124 wagon with a body kit that makes it look cool
Like a fancy body kit. Yes, or a
Kuntosh
Yeah, yep, yes, I agree 100% thank you. Okay
900 turbo in black. Oh
Yeah, I like that
V70 R wagon in blue
With the orange leather interior the baseball glove. Yep
And then I could be convinced into like a cool Japanese car
Like a Celica Supra, are you looking up Kuntosha valleys right now Chris? I am I was not
Valuable
672,000 dollars 672. I wonder what was some that has some like weird provenance to it. Yeah, see
Okay, so maybe not. There's all half a million dollars plus half a million dollars plus. I wonder what
Is there like a an old?
You can't registry add
For for a Kuntosh, can we see like historically?
Somehow mmm. Does Hagerty have that cool?
Yes, what are you looking for? I don't understand. I feel like they were like a hundred grand
At some point
Values 1984
Yeah
When they were new
All right, LP 500 s. Okay, how do we go way back in the day? Oh, we can't cuz I'm not
Well, I'm not I'm not a person. So that's not a person. That's wonderful
Okay, okay
Okay, so like these are like here's that what hold on what was this just like you have a collage page of like cars you like
Yeah, what is this? Oh, yeah, okay, so you started listing them knowing full well that you have visual aids
Like you clearly put this together for this list and then did not share it, okay
So that is the baseball glove interior hold on because that is a nomenclature that I specifically relate to the first gen
Audi TT. Yeah, well that was actually had like the yeah the like weird leather stitch thing
Yes, yes, you will not find
These v70 ours and any kind of decent condition anymore. They're all ruined
The interiors did not hold up. Well, they got all gooey, you know, remember how all like the early 2000s Volkswagen interiors got gooey
Well, they got crayon smelling
But the soft all the soft touch of anything early 2000s got gooey
Yeah, same thing happened in the 70s the interiors of them are not good that leather didn't hold up
You'd have to get a really really low mileage one to even make me
Remotely interested in that plus you already have a wagon. You do not need another wagon
I forbid I'm just telling you what I like. I think that's a Celica
This is a Supra Celica. Oh
Okay, and then
Admittedly, I don't know what these are all called. I don't know which is which but I like their shapes. Oh like a story
Yes, that's a Mitsubishi star in yeah, and one is a Toyota sore
Yeah, that's the sore. That's a import. Is that this one? I think that's a JDM
Thing Mrs. Producers going full JDM on us, huh? What? Okay, keep going now. No, you already
You get the vibe right it's all boxy
I like the saw lot of all the sharp lines
Uh-huh
I like the sub would be cool. Yeah, I do not want to own a sob
I just love these cars on this list and the kuntosh is there as well like
Everything's pretty reasonable except that I remember Nathan from FCP
Wouldn't you think these would be fun for you to have something new to work on that you do nothing about?
Yes, I think that is that would be fun to learn and
But I do not want to own or work on a sob Nathan from FCP
I was like had one that he was selling and so like that and he said they were absolutely
Everything's unique and special and design. Oh, yeah, they're weird or something. I am I'm not interested
It's not not anything I'd be interested but a starian or a Chrysler conquest which are the same things
Also here. They're not you know own but
Would be willing to give it a shot actually have those box flares on there either
No, I think whatever I want needs to have a body kit on it to make it look awesome
Yeah, they all have those box flares, dude. That's that's what's not where is what am I missing? What what?
What am I missing on this list? Oh boy? What what are you missing from boxy?
80s cars like boxy 80s ugly cars for the list is very long
I'm gonna show Jake that he's wrong about the box flares. Here's a
That one looked like it had some type of overvendor situation going on. I don't think so. I think all of these have pretty crazy box flares
What about RX sevens Jess no
See look that's factory yes
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah, it looks like if
Hold on that
looks less
88 these what's this one? I?
Don't know anything the red one or
Jake wants us to go to the one that proves his point even though it
99% of the other ones on this page you click done
Every single one has one you're like, I'm right. That's it's a lie
Jake's wrong. See lies. You're right. Well. I didn't know if it was like a weird JDM market only thing
Anyways, this is producer. You're you're getting none of these but I will keep my eye open so
What about RX seven Jess sorry? I
Don't think I like those
They sound stupid to just one RX. That's the best part of them. It's a row. No, they sound like bees. They sound like
Yeah, as soon as you start to drive them, it's it's it's no good at all so
We're gonna move boxy Audi like a like a coupe quattro
Yeah, I'm over it. You wanted a short wheelbase
Quattro, yeah an s1 s2 of course. Well, yeah, but what about anymore?
What about a Volkswagen Fox? Oh, yeah, I like those foxes really and yeah, what's the
What's the other one the dasher? Yeah, the dasher
Is that what those are? Yeah, those are
What about a rabbit or pick our truck? I
Would drive a rabbit pickup truck
But I know that we've already done all those we've done
I need something to put grandpa's engine in
Probably would fit in that coontosh
Yeah, there you go. What a downgrade. So I started working on the driven death car
And I'm gonna show you what I what I got see if I can figure out this
Riverside's got some got some new fancy new features here. I know we love I logged in and it was all different interface
Well, I know you got your fancy
Oil pan
And turn my light on and show you guys the pan install
There she is
Can you see it kind of can you flip or something can I do that so thing I don't know
No, no, they don't want you to do that. I don't think oh
This is this is bad for morale right now
All right, well here she is
That's an oil pan
But look how like look how custom you made this
Yeah, because we 3d scanned in this whole thing right here
Right, look at how like this follows the arc of everything
This is where it was banging was right here and I can fit my entire hand in the spot right there now
So this is this is pretty dope
I still have to like take these off and tighten the oil pan up all the way
But I can honestly tell you that this was an absolute show me
You
Pretend the phone is a speed bump. I'm a speed bump coming at the car. I want to see that like the clearance profile
That's pretty good
Yeah, I think
It's about an inch and a half higher that kind of gives it your angle that you'd have right there
This is the obviously the subframe so it sits just slightly below the subframe itself
So we're good
Massive massive improvements, that's what I got done. I had to take it in now several times
Yes, I had it in and out a couple of times, but overall it was pretty easy
I had to jack the motor up pull the old pan off which had like this flange
That hey, Mrs. Producer will you run around in the house and grab that thing that I almost lost?
I think it's downstairs on
Well, I'll show you this this thing that I almost threw in the trash
Okay, I had to drop the motor down
Pull I had to like drop part of the subframe down take the motor mount out and like
Jack the motor up a little bit pull down pull up and like kind of like
finagle this thing over the middle cross member that was
That basically goes across the subframe to get it out and I
I
Got the other oil pan in the reverse of that obviously and then I'd be like set the pan in and then
Install the oil pump pickup tube with the pan in which was like my hands are all gouged up from like reaching in and out
And let's like trying to trying to figure this stuff out, but I was I said a
Text message to Mike Bros. I'm like dude. Do you have a 3d scan of a ZF gearbox because the
Obviously that part that
Covers the flywheel and protects the flywheel from debris is no longer there anymore
So you can look and you're just like looking at the light lightweight flywheel is just there
You're like well, that's not good
You can see the ring gear and the clutch and inside the bell housing is all there
No, it was part of the oil pan. It was before. Yeah, it's here. Look interesting
So this is the cover it would have been like this so it covers up the the bottom of the flywheel right out it, okay?
So I was thinking I was gonna have the 3d scan one and
He didn't have a model for it
So I started to like 3d scan in like the the face of the bell housing
I was gonna just make a plastic one and just 3d print it and put it on there
Just so I had something that would would make it not suck up a bunch of rocks into the into the bell housing and
Jesse comes in the other day and she goes hey, look what I found in the trash
Whoa
Yeah, this is I mean this this stuff that whoa
Made is amazing, but this I actually threw this in the trash
Wow, so she had found this for me
So I no longer have to make one. I'm glad because whatever I made throw that away
Because it was a giant box in the box was full of like packing stuff and I just took the box
I took the pan out of the box. Well, I just I
Didn't order this
So I just thought I ordered the pan so I didn't even know this was in there
So many thanks to Harper Fab for including this part, which is
So that'll be done
I'm wondering I was talking to Cam Adams
And he was saying some of the windage trays are differing if you if you look at this pan
I don't feel like picking it up again, but it's from an E34 and it has a
Integrated I think E34 pan has an integrated windage tray
Right. What is a windage tray Jake?
Yeah, so a windage tray is basically like baffles inside there
So when your crankshaft is rotating around you it prevents a lot of the oil from sloshing up and hitting the crankshaft
That's it's spinning at speed which will then cause drag
And so it's like and aeration
Correct, and it'll foam up. Yeah, and so a lot of times it'll have like little baffle things
So oil can get down but not splash back up
This is the windage tray, and it is integrated into this pan right here
So it's the pan a lot of times
And on most stuff that I've worked on the pan has been separate from the windage tray
It's something that bolts to the to the engine block
Side region by the crankshaft. That's the way Volkswagen. I think has it as it bolts to the thing. Anyway, apparently the
I have to had to get a different windage tray cam was nice enough to send me one
But apparently they're different and he said I am surprised that your crankshaft did not
Interact with this windage tray that's on here because the stroke is longer on the s50
So he said I'm very surprised that you didn't have an issue with that the bottom of your rods hitting this windage tray
And I'm thinking to myself
Maybe I don't have a lifter tech
Maybe I have a rod that is just ever so slightly
Hitting your windage tray
So I'm gonna put everything back together and start it up again and see before I take the whole valve train apart to see if maybe
That was my issue. Yeah
Was is there any like evidence of I
Didn't see any witness marks or anything, but if it was just a he says it's really slight
So if it was just like
Just very ever so slightly literally in oil. So like it could be well lubricated enough. I don't know
I I really that's that's like that's hopeful thinking. That's optimism. I like it. So we'll see that's my rally prep
Make sure to put oil in the engine in the car. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I bought new one
There's I do not have a big note. I should do that
I've I've had the terrible thoughts of what if I started this thing with no oil. How awful would that be?
It would be bad. really really really bad
I'm not I hopefully won't do that
I'm not I bought like two oil changes worth of oil for all my cars from FCP
Because well, there's you know, if they never open the straight of a Hormuz again
It's gonna be a either way more expensive or be hard to find. I don't know. I have no idea
Yeah, everyone talks about the fuel and no one talks about like oil itself. I never thought of that
Oil or I mean oil goes in all kinds of plastics oil whatever lubricants. So I bought a bunch of different ones
so I got oil to put in and
Hopefully this is the only rally prep I have to do with that lifter doesn't tick
If it does tick, I still might not fix it and might be yet one more rally with a collapsed lifter in that
Like I don't know that's fine. That seems like a really big job to do that whole yeah, especially since I didn't realize this but
Like the team flies in on in a week. Yeah
They're flying and it's starting to get there. It's getting it's getting I would say it's getting real
It's kind of the point is imminent. It's imminent. It's a point in no return
It's like the point of like well, we can't order anything else everything that's here is here
And everything that's going to happen is going to happen. You start getting to that point where
Because when you have time to do something
You will fill it with things to do and and and try to make things better and make things nicer for people and try to like
Fix the flow of things so it's even better to polish it's like polishing this stone even or you know
With your hand
You get to the point of diminishing returns as well. Oh 100% but you keep doing it anyway
Oh, absolutely, but eventually you get to the point where it's just you can't there's nothing to do anymore more importantly
Have you worked on your derby car?
No, I have not even touched my derby car. I haven't either
So we can't use like time as the excuse of one being better than the other
No, clearly not minus still I was think I'll just spray painting it brick red and just there you go
Just make it a brick
Watch it somehow be the fastest car out there be like, huh?
So the trick is to just not do anything I do anything at all. Yeah, that's
That's the way to do it man
I
Think the kids want to do there. So if I'm gonna help anybody it'll be them and if I don't have one that'll just be
That's we'll just find a break. I don't it's just
What are you been working on what's going on in your world?
Do you have a dipstick on that thing? That was the other thing is we were talking about the dipstick and you were confused
It's got a custom dipstick tube. So it just screws with an and fitting right into the pan easy. Okay. Yeah, okay, well
I was tinkering on the C10 and
Couple things. There's only one thing to do on the C10. What's that the Weber carburetors on the C10?
Here's why I haven't done these get there. Please. Here's why I haven't done that
That head notoriously
Does not flow or rev well like you know a lot of work to make that thing
Rev and flow but but but you could make it run on the carburetors and just get it running and get everything else
Way to get it running get it sounding cool. We'll be fine. It's sound dope and it'll look cool or or
Because it's low compression and it doesn't rev a lot
I could put an M90 supercharger on it and make really respectable power for dirt cheap
And that makes so much more sense
Yeah, we're in the world of making sense. That's that's our that's our world
Yeah, but supercharger wine
What does someone make a kid holds on to this thing?
They do they do but I would yeah, it's like a bracket basically is really all you need with that because then very
Disappoint why I really you much better. I
Probably should put them on anyway since I have all of the pieces
You have the manifolds and everything hard to find manifold. Yeah
Well, just put them on there
Just run it as it is with the low compression and get it running and just enjoy it for a summer
Enjoy the project enjoy doing something. Yeah, that's true
I had an electric fuel pump in before I do that though because otherwise it won't be able to fuel these things
You don't think it's just a little like diaphragm off the
Crankshaft mechanical pump, you know. Oh, well, that's easy
What that's easy. Yeah, you just pump. Yeah, what are we doing? It is
What what are we doing? Lots of other things instead of that
I thought I had my second winterizing failure on the property when my pool that I never wanted a
In-ground pool to maintain stupidest thing ever, but here we are. Yeah, Jake has a pool. I'm a pool boy. I
It was sucking air into the pump
Constantly and I was able to locate it to the correct like intake plumbing circuit
And it's the one that comes from the bottom of the pool
So like clearly like there's a pipe that goes underground under the pool
Then back up to the the whole pump housing and I was like great
That's that cracked because I'm it doesn't matter what I do
I'm getting air into the system from that one intake pipe and you put like radiators stop
something
I thought of like, yeah, what what do they make that's gonna be like not toxic to swim in?
Not that much volume just dump some radiator stop like directly into the drain and then shut it off. I
Don't think that would work
However, I got very lucky. It was literally just like this slip fitting up by the pump that was like literally falling apart loose
And so I did that and I was like, oh wait no more bubbles
But it took me probably all afternoon to diagnose that yesterday because I was like turning off valves trying to locate it and everything
anyways, totally not related
But that was something else that I got lucky with for like, you know things freeze up here in Minnesota
I do not think of anything I would rather not do than work on a triple carbureted
C10
Then work my pool. There's nothing you would brought there and not to oh, yeah, but like I drive it around it works really nice
It runs well. It's great and I don't want to put it out of commission
By doing this and I really want to install the header first because it's a counter-flow head
So it's on the same side and like let's at least get the header on that I have for it
But then do the header you have to figure out the exhaust from the header back because it's really like
Small diameter pipe and I don't like you even have a little new mufflers. What's that? You have a welder. I have three of them
Yeah, okay, so what are you waiting for?
I don't know for that to be a priority. I
Mean that it certainly sounds like a winter project to me if I'm on
Unfortunately, yeah, the other thing I would be doing is I would work to be working on getting that yellow 924 running that you've got
Have you try really get that running? No, I forgot it existed. No, I didn't I haven't looked at it since I've moved it down there
I was very very old gas in it
So I need to drain the gas and then see if I can get the pump
To run to get it up and check fuel pressures or you start on that machine
All right before we get into a little bit of news. What have you what have you got for us here?
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Adventure like I just had a stroke there. That's okay
I was gonna say that a lot of people's next adventure using on X is gonna be the overcrest rally on X is the official routing partner of
The overcrest rally you will be getting it all loaded up
Well, you if you don't have it loaded up, you should otherwise everybody will be getting the information that they need ahead of time
I meant I meant you to yes, which route into the app. Yeah, I actually enjoyed
Moving the route from you know, I made it in Google Maps. Well, I honestly don't think I'm gonna do that
Yeah, I think I will just build it in on X
Which is really the next everybody that comes on the rally is gonna get
Free membership, they're gonna be able to download it
I get a membership to on X and use it and explore with your buddies. You'll be able to use the
Everybody that's near a little group. You'll be able to see where everybody is what I'm excited to try out and see
So are we are we gonna have a rally wide group like everyone that has this it's not a limit of like I think like 10 11 12 people
That's right. Yeah, so it's you and your buddies. Just in your place and very cool though that you can literally see where they are along the route
The app also features all these different cool layers like cell service, you know when and now you're gonna be going you can of course download
The routes ahead of time it features trail ratings. So if you want to get crazy, is there like a epic
Off-road mode or dirt only
Route that we have a dirt only route. No, but there is a gravel route. Yes, there is a gravel route very good and
But I don't labels that as trails, you know, I don't think probably not I was wondering about that
Yeah, it's a real road. It doesn't label it as a trail or rate it in any way
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All right, and what kind of tires do you think we should have on the yeah on some of these gravel routes?
Oh, I'm excited that a new set of
Is has been delivered over in at Morris Motors in Sacramento
For the Mercedes for the Mercedes. We've got some nice tires to go out there and bomb around do that car
They got the dude had like the craziest alignment on that car
Craziest craziest line, but he had those pads that like raised it up a bunch and
Sutton's yeah, cuz it was not it like it was had a weird rake to it. Yeah, I had a weird rake
But it's all still it's all settled now. It's had an alignment the tires are on it and Sutton says it drives
Beautifully, it's like a massive massive change to the way that it was before so we got some Nokia
I guess we could call them the official scout scouting tire of over. Yes, I'm really excited
Dude, I got back from I think it was
I don't remember which rally it was that I scouted but was one of the 123 rallies
It must have been the brown one when I went and scouted
Yeah, or again, was I got back dude and there were like I was on these gnarly roads
Just gnarly, you know, not like a gravel road, but like a rock road
These roads that are just really meant for logging trucks is what they're meant for and it's just these giant trucks of granite
It's what the roads that are all sharp and
You know, they're just looking to cut your tires up
I came back in that like entire tread blocks have been cut off by these by
abused
Absolutely abused these tires and they they came back up just fun
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Slash surpass for that one, you know speaking of alignment. You said they aligned that Mercedes
That's the other thing I did with the C10 is did I ever show you the tires that I took off of that thing?
They were I was like the front tires
were
They always squealed weird and I didn't like it and I from what I saw like even turning the tire and looking at it
I was like I got plenty of tread on this thing and then I took them off when I got those new wheels and the very
Inside corner was just on metal cords like all the way down to just metal interior of the tire
So I knew I had like pretty severe camber up in the front
Camber we bet there. Thank you. Yeah
No, that's what I said
No, I don't think so definitely not but I didn't realize my toe was off by like
The ten times what it should have been like it was really really notice just from driving at that
It was I did but you've driven you've driven that thing and it's just like it's an old truck
I don't know it kind of goes where you want it to so I dialed in the alignment and it's so much better
So that that was nice nice. Nice. Yeah. Well, how was that thing aligned? What is it?
Even rare
No, it's a straight axle. Yeah on what they call truck arms, which is what NASCAR still used up until I think the last next-gen car
So maybe you could adjust the
Bolt placement a little bit, but what's really weird is it did technically show point 04 degrees of
Toe on the straight axle so whether that was just an error or not, but at any rate that was good
That was something else car related
Yeah, I'm sure some red into something and bent that at one point. That's probably
Because it would yeah still not squeal or something with that little point 04 percent, but yeah, I was at like
Four degrees toe out or something and you're supposed to be at point two toe in so it was it was bad not good
I found a Bugatti that maybe you can afford. Oh
Boy
Actually, I don't know how much is this thing?
If you can afford a Bugatti, Mrs. Producer can pull up some photos
What is foals that purchase probably brain your bank account now if you can afford it in the first place the automaker from Malsheim
I thought of that so it's a partner with Australian firm CC'd on a branded
Television so you can watch white runs favorite shows while waiting for your turbo on to be built
Is that yeah, look at this thing just as the v16 our tree on isn't just enough
Tars get to the rig Tars. Does that not look like Tars? Go back go back to where it was like doing its weird foldy thing
back one more
Right there that's Tars Chris. Yes, it does look it
A little bit. I don't think this thing's gonna does probably doesn't have a humor setting
No, you got his first release close to TV's chrysalis form in
Architectural my God inspired by the side profile of its hypercars replicating the distinctive C graphic behind the doors
I don't know. It looks like more like some it looks like a lipstick to you
It's Tars
No, it's it's because this thing that was interesting though. You saw hundred and 100 and 37 inches
That's a beefy TV. Yeah
Looks like you should be able to go to cryo stasis inside this thing, right? Yes, that would also make sense
I wanted to see the action where it unfolds again though because aren't there gonna be seam lines in there
Yeah, but I'm guessing there was individual panels. Yeah, but you can probably have a tolerance there
That's pretty pretty pretty
I suppose you're guessing plus you're not sitting right next to a hundred and 37 inch TV
True. Yeah, your resolution doesn't matter quite that much when you're a football field back
What this reminds me of though is like when you think of this
This is not for you Jake. Well, no clearly. Is there a dollar or someone who's watching their opera on this thing apparently?
250 thousand dollars. No, there's so there's really no price tag. I'm not seeing a price tag on this TV anywhere
It's not in the article
Yeah, there's there's there's no price tag
So it's probably a couple 100000 dollars and it just made me think of the
Ferrari luce a little bit and I wanted to just have a second to talk about this thing
I wrote a big article for Petrolicious
I know you did and then and then you were like crap now
I need to walk it all back because that was before yeah, and then I wrote another one
I did finish my article. I gave them a how do we pronounce it?
We've always said luce, but I'm pretty sure everything I saw since it came out and everyone is just saying lose I
Honestly don't know I have no idea
Something worth worth looking into I'm not sure
I honestly don't care because I probably will try to say its name as little as possible in the future is
Would be would be my goal
This kind of stuff whether it's the Ferrari luce or this television or any of this kind of thing
it's there's a
There's a few different things going on here
I don't I've obviously the TV in the car not the same thing, but it should explain to you
That all this stuff is for a completely different type of person
With a completely different type of asset class from you. This is a this is an EV that is
It is built to fulfill the requirements of the EU regulations for extremely wealthy
Wealthy people who don't care
What anyone on the internet is saying and you can even look like everybody's like oh the stock crashed blah blah blah everybody cares
It's already recovered. The stock's already recovered it recovered in like two days
Here's here's the question I would pose to you then okay
Getting a little philosophical, but it used to be that regardless of the market of a vehicle
that it was always
Aspirational to the lower class like you would still always have the poster up on your wall
Because man that is the coolest most beautiful most high performance most whatever it is. I know I'll never
Be able to afford it or purchase it and I know it's not marketed for me
But it's still very much aspirational the luce slash loose is
In no way
Something that people are aspiring to it seems I'm gonna I'm gonna push back on that a little bit and I'm gonna show you a car
Oh, sorry. Jess. Just text us. It's half a million for that TV by the way
$500,000 television cool
You could buy one of those or save up a little bit more and buy a
Ferrari luce that looks like a
Prius about to give anal birth to a Ferrari
Okay, here's my here's my
My argument to what you're saying
Not all Ferraris have been aspirational
You're thinking of like the really expensive stuff
Testarosa's Berlinetta's all these types of things this for example is the 400i
Which is like a 2.2 with a three-speed automatic transmission hooked up to a Ferrari v12
Which I think how is this aspirational?
I
Think this was still for
Okay, it is not their halo car
That's another distinction here because I was not saying it has to be their halo car
But this was still compare that to the Corvette of the day
Right a grand tourer. Well, this thing is the auto and I'm playing devil's advocate a little bit here
But I know you are he has a
Thousand horsepower sure
It's past but it looks terrible and I don't want it if you were looking at a Corvette or that Ferrari
You would still say like oh that Ferrari is really
Great and beautiful has a v12. I want this is amazing. Very very unloved Ferrari the 400i
Okay, it's only recent week that one. I'm just saying I don't I don't think that's the argument. I think I
Don't I don't I don't think that's it. I don't I don't think that's the argument for me
The argument is more
Okay, so you've got the frickin Apple dude design this design this car and this is the guy
who
Back in the day if you remember this is a long time ago now when you had an app an iPhone
You would have like a picture of the notes app and it would have like leather on it or you'd have the camera and all that everything was very
Strangely tactile it was like textures built into
This thing that you're holding right
And now he's designed the luce which
Has these buttons that don't really matter and do anything it's like a completely reverse
Complete reversible of his original design philosophy when he was with Apple. I don't I don't really understand
Why he would do it, but the question is
Why would he design things this way? Why was this car?
Design the way it's designed because these people are not stupid
They know a lot of resources. There's there's no world in which the board room didn't gasp
When this thing got ruled out, there's no world in which that luce didn't come up on the screen and the whole board room went
and
Then someone in that room had to back them down
You know, you had the the Don Draper or whatever it is a Ferrari had to go look guys
Here's what you need to understand and then he laid out a case to the board to the CEO to whatever and they went
Okay, we get it. Let's do it. So we don't know what this is right
And that I think is the failure then because is this a case of simply bad marketing and bad product positioning?
No, because they don't have to when you talk about a luxury brand
They don't have to justify it to you the consumer. Okay, that's it's not like buying detergent or something
They don't have to justify to you
Consumer what we're doing. This is art. This is luxury. This is whatever now granted
They have a it's a publicly traded company at the same time. They're ticker is race. I believe on the New York Stock Exchange
So they still have shareholders to be beholden to but it is still a luxury brand
So they don't have the same they they don't have the same answering to in terms of the consumer that like a regular
Car would but the question remains is to why why did they do this? Why did it despite knowing?
Despite knowing that people wouldn't like it
There's no world in which they didn't know that this would be the reaction
I just don't you think it would have been in their
Benefit to before releasing it position it better and manage expectations of like this is the everyday Ferrari or
The Ferrari of the
Maybe that's what this is. Maybe this is supposed to be the Prius of Ferrari
This is supposed to be your Tesla that it just you drive and it's your appliance car, but you don't care about it
So it's no, it's because what is a lucky thing? It's not an appliance anything. It's
Well, you're right luxury I still don't get it. I So my thought here's my thought as to why
You can only
Pander to heritage for so long. It is a well that will run dry
the statement was always
You buy the car and the engine comes free when it comes to for eyes
Okay, so it was always the engine. It was always the other way around you buy the engine. It just happens to come for free
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for free. Yeah, sorry my colloquialism was was backwards
It was never about it. I mean obviously the shapes are sometimes good
But like if you look at like the chassis and stuff, it's all garbage. Yeah, no you look at
It's and they're not cars. It's just the engine. So here's let me finish my point
I
how long in a world that is
transitioning to EVs and is transitioning away from combustion engines by and
Everybody voted for this. So everybody in Europe. You are getting what your just desserts deserve. Okay?
So the EU is pushing, you know, the rules and everything else that have to do with that
Whatever, but this is the path that Ferrari has to go down
whether they like it or not and
as much as we would love for them to like
Burn the bridge and just say screw it and keep putting out combustion engines till
Greta Thunberg comes knocking on their door with handcuffs that says sorry
We're taking everybody to jail because you guys are breaking the rules
It's never gonna happen. It's a public-traded company. They have to go down this path
So at what point do they do they get ahead of it? Do they say, okay?
This is the way the winds of change are blowing. So we have to do this at some point
Do they do it now or did they do it when it's too late? I
Think I know what you're saying and yes, I agree with that
But then the smart choice would have been make the most ridiculously absurd
Electric-only halo hypercar
That's what you lead with and show like this. This is the Ferrari of the future now
And yes, our lesser models will also be electric. They already did this. that
Was that the LaFerrari? LaFerrari was all electric or was that hybrid?
No, it was a hybrid thing. That was their first
That's the example of what you're saying. I
guess I
Still don't understand why why this I
Kind of don't either
Why did they that's the closest that we can get is that?
Their heritage is a well that is running dry
you can't
Literally can't I mean hey, there's probably gonna be other cars that come out
I bet they're not just gonna be like everything is like this the luce everything doesn't look like a car
They're gonna have other cars that come out that are gonna be exactly what you're saying
But they are putting their foot in the sand saying that they understand
Where motoring is going it's going towards mobility. It's going towards style
They have to do this
Well, it's fine failure
Does continuing to exist should they just again like you are saying it's about style
We just said that the styling is not
What I'm saying a couple things one I would argue that Ferrari is not the brand that has
relied
Largely on heritage that is Porsche for sure the iconic 9-11 that's never changed
Ferrari however has always been they are at the tip of the spear the absolute cutting edge of technology
When it comes to performance and motorsport that is not like
Yes, we've we have a
Storyed brand and we always have been but they never designed something because oh it's an homage to
Our older shapes that looked beautiful, but it's not the cutting edge
First always look what they're doing then this is why they built this car is exactly what you're saying
You are leaving the point and the point is if you look historically over time Ferrari has always
Built cars that are definitive either they define the time they're in or the time defines the car
Every single one that's what I mean by it's always cutting edge. It's not
Look at the g2. Nothing Ferrari has done. It looks like it's from the 60s a testarosa
You immediately think of like miami and and and drugs and white and cocaine and and the show
Has a removable cocaine mirror in the glove box chris. It's they are always
quintessentially
They go with the time that they were released and I think because that is the cutting edge at the time
That is always what they've been about. It's always pushing the envelope hundred percent. I agree
So it's not in my mind a heritage quote brand
Whether they think it is is different than what the
World thinks they are the world defines Ferrari by motorsport by engine by noise by power by brutality
Especially everybody thinks if you were to go name the first Ferrari that comes to your mind every single person is going to say f40
Nobody's going to say a la Ferrari. They're just unless it's like
Boy whose dad is going to say depends we were asking because it's always going to be the Ferrari that was like the pinnacle of your generation
I I still think that f40 is what most people are going to say regardless of what generation you're from
Um, I don't know. I bet I bet anyone younger than our age would say the enzo shame on their fathers
Shame shame on them
I I okay, but even if this is the case and we're going this is the most like
High-tech cutting edge. This is the sign of the times, etc
Why
Does it look the way it does and yes, it was the designer from apple, but why did they agree to use that design?
Why there's just it nothing about it
Fits the brand it is it does not
I
Unless you're saying this is the everyday Ferrari
You know what bothers me is that they put like all that heritage stuff and the interior
All I know it has the great three spoke steering wheel and so this is what they teased
That's why I'm saying this thing was positioned and marketed so wrong. Do not tease
This like cool historic vintage whatever
It's it was it was misrepresented. That's why when I wrote my first article, I'm like give them a chance
Look what they're doing with the interior. It's not for me, but it could you imagine all that egg on your face
Yeah, I just didn't think this would be what kind of could you imagine like
It wasn't even red chris. They didn't release it in red. They released it in this new blue
Yes, because it doesn't it totally divorces them from this is Ferrari sports car
So what are they doing? What are they saying? What is this?
They are saying we understand
Oh my god, it's so ugly. Yes. They're saying we understand the future of motoring and mobility is
This is it this is what Ferrari thinks the future is going to be yes, so then say
This is the everyday Ferrari. This is you don't have to buy a Prius now. You can buy your Ferrari every day Ferrari
Jake nobody buying a 600000 dollar car is deciding between this and a Prius
That's no, but maybe they're deciding between this and they're like Rolls Royce. Whatever. Can you imagine the pamphlet?
This is finally by Ferrari the Prius of Ferraris. You can spend 600000 dollars
If that's not it, I don't know what it is like
I saw so many comments and myself when I saw the video on social for the first time of like the grand reveal
I thought it was an ai parody
I thought it was like, oh, what is this? This isn't the real thing question remains and I've I've speculated on it
I've said a few reasons why I think they did it
But when it all comes down to it, I don't understand why either I don't I'm trying to wrap my mind around it
I'm trying to understand it from their point of view
Probably try to company gotta move on heritage is dying blah blah blah
Sure, they could have done things a lot differently even if all those things are true
Well, think of it this way. It's probably
What was the reaction
When the cayenne came out?
What was the reaction? That's a good analogy. That's what was the reaction when the iris
came out
Right like these these vehicles that are
Maybe they're considered I would consider the iris a luxury car
I would consider a like buying a brand new cayenne. That's a luxury purchase not on the level of a 600000 dollar friary, but
Maybe they're just buying. Yes, they don't sell enough cars to really make enough money
Maybe they're trying to find a way to sell some more cars part of the fiat
Group and they don't have to they've always just been the halo aspirational brand. So what are they doing?
I don't know dude. I just I do not know missus producer
um get your story ready and jake's gonna give us a little bit of uh
Talked about fcp euro who delivered some parts for me
What did you get? You can open it fly here about it
Nothing. It's in there. It's not worth running to go get it is a temperature stitch for my mercy
Jesse goes the air conditioning in the in the 124. It doesn't work. I'm like, okay. Why does she sound like that?
Air conditioning doesn't work in the car and uh, I was like, okay, so I get in and sure enough
It's not working. Okay. What's going on here? And it's got like this
Multi it don't a lot of cars especially when they're old you turn the air conditioning on and the and the auxiliary fan just turns on
Right. It just turns on the fan. This one has the system where
I'm guessing it's because Ferrari or I'm sorry Mercedes is like the fans loud
The fans loud. We don't want and it's not efficient. You don't run all the time. Yeah, that's not right temperature load or something
two things it's based on a
Temperature sensor on the head for cooling temperature. It's also based on the pressure of the ac system
So when you the ac first comes on it doesn't need to run the fans because it's just cold and is the air is the
Pressure increases in system turns the fans on so one of two things I tested the relay
I tested the fuses everything seemed to work
And then I unplugged that temperature sensor on the head and sure enough the auxiliary fan kicked on
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You know, I saw that chris harris was not invited to go look at this release
But I did see a lot of people being like check this out and it's like they're pushing little buttons. I know it was so
Oh my god, like it was lame
It was
It it literally
looked like an appliance
Yep, you know, I've always you know, you've been like, oh cars are appliances for people and I'm like, I don't know
I think they can really define who you are. Like yeah, I know chris shoes and stuff
This is it's it's not
It's yeah, it's bad. Like I said, it looks very importantly proving my point
It looks like a Prius shitting out a freaking Ferrari from the rear
It is the the like concept of the arrow is cool when the
You know, it's like an exoskeleton almost how the wings are that like if you took away the front and rear wing
It does look much more sporty classical like wedge shape
And then they put the arrow big wing thing on top of it. So it looks like a Prius. It's
bizarre
Dare I say that the new Prius looks better than this thing? Yeah, it does
I don't know what this thing looks like. It's a
Blob this, you know what this is? Oh my god, chris. Oh my god. I do
What you're you're overcressed
Pinewood derby car should be the luce because it's literally a block where you just like put holes in it at angles
Can you please paint it blue and black and make it the luce?
Okay, so here I've got I'm gonna pull up these two photos here
Like it's really talking about see if I can do this fast enough
All right
I don't this car just really just it's offensive
I have you seen the guys where they go?
Well, what if it was just all white and black and it had an apple logo on the front?
And people would be like, this is great. This is very apple. Oh, it's clearly the problem is again
It's it's branding and positioning is what was wrong. Oh man. Look at this tiny photo
This is gonna come through poorly, but here's the here's the Prius, right? Yep here. Yep
You can see this design nomenclature right here. Sure. Here's this thing same
I know it's like a real weight is coming out
Correct. Yes. Like that that is
Actually kind of cool looking from the rear
If it was the entire black section on the bottom wasn't there and it was just that low to the ground would be cool
Yeah, if you kind of like like if you go like can I do it? Well, let me know go like this
Yeah, like that that yep, that's cool looking because then it's like a f40 spoiler down low around the whole car
This looks like a it looked like a 360
through f4 30
Yeah, yes, and you'd be above. Yes. Great. That's what I'm saying. You look at it from there on up
It looks great from the back
And then and then
Like why is it why'd they raise it? That's weird. What's the big? Yeah. Yep
Right there and then it's worse from there, you know what when it looks it looks probably best it like this. Can we just
Can we just scroll away from it completely?
Oh, I see you're just trying to get it out of the picture. Yeah come in zero. No. Yeah. Um
All right, mrs. Producer, what have you got for us? Tell us uh, tell us a story. All right, Jake
What's up on a time first Jake? Don't be an asshole. Okay, because you saw this photo earlier
I didn't actually see I just saw the guy on the right was the one who's dead
Whoa, someone's dead. Okay. Okay. Oh
Did he was this after was this post-mortem photo?
No, no, he
Poor guy
He doesn't even need a rear view mirror this car
Guys
What means the victim so don't be a dickhead. Okay. Sorry. Well, clearly he's a victim of something
All right. Omar broke in 31 was sentenced to life without the possibility
I'm having jake's no parole. Yeah, no parole in michigan last week for murdering 38 year old
Oh, I don't want to look at this guy anymore this poor guy
I'm sure this I don't want to see what guy
All right, so
All right, so broke in went to holstics home 15 miles south of flint in july of 2024 to buy two corvette seats
For his orange camaro
Okay, so it is automotive related. Okay. Got it. Wait, corvette seats to put in his
It is orange camaro
But it turned deadly when they started fighting over which car manufacturer was better
It is not camaros or corvettes. What do you think they were fighting over? Those are those are
Would you rather have a camaro or a corvette jake?
Obviously the corvette
I think I would take like a t-top camaro
Okay, but like all things being equal just look at the brand hierarchy the corvette is obviously always better and performs better
It's always been
Yeah, because that's why that's how I choose my cars. I just want the best one
Well, if you asked anyone with a camaro, would you rather have a corvette? They almost always I don't know
That's just to me logical
Let me let me I gotta I gotta this is I want to own one of these some days a teal v6
Camaro no the rs from like 93. Why ironically?
Oh, there it is right here. This is the one like the stereotypical high school bully car
This thing right here
Yeah, dude, this thing is awesome. That looks way better than a corvette 100 percent better
Why what okay, that's weird. All right continue. Okay. All right. They were fighting over whether
BMW or Mercedes was the better
manufacturer
What okay, and then the
We know how this rogden got so pissed
Hold on. Hold on and he started starting the guy
No, I don't
Because they one guy obviously had a corvette or had corvette seats and the other guy had a camaro
You'd think they'd be like pretty much on the same page here. That's what I'm saying
And then they're arguing about this they is something completely different
Yep, facebook marketplace
He went to the guy's house and was like give me those seats and the guy was like sure, but fuck you
This car is better
How many drugs were involved just I don't know but I so I'm I'm nosy
So I was like well who was fighting over what right?
Which side was it?
Who thinks it's Mercedes who so
Can I I started snooping? Yeah, what do you think? I think Mercedes is definitely the aggressor
Oh, the other guy was defending you
Because of BMW's design language more looking at here. I can't see that. This is the guy's facebook page
All right. Well, you're sharing the others green w are very small
Okay, hold on and show me stop. I think I think you showed me a BMW logo on his facebook page
So which guy is this that's Omar. I'm our shooter. Okay. So he's got okay
He has a Camaro or a Corvette and also
He has the Camaro and he thinks that BMWs are better. Okay
So the BMW guy predictably was more aggressive than the calm and mature
Yep, exactly
Is that it? That's a whole story
That's the whole story. Well, so then he just shot him
You dead shot him
Dead was he like shot him dead in front of his garage or something and like they were in his garage
They found him dead in his garage
Did it escalate was it like this fight first and then one guy pulled a knife and the guy
The neighbor saw it happen
Okay, heard them arguing can you walk so they started arguing
What could you say to somebody?
What could you say to somebody about your favorite?
He might have just wanted to not pay for those seats that he got too
I'm gonna think it's probably that
They probably were like fine Mercedes is better pay up for the seats. No bang
And that was that was it. Maybe they got a no, no, it wasn't the guy buying who wait who is selling the seats
The guy who's dead
Oh, so the guy came to his house to purchase. Yeah came to this house to purchase somehow makes it worse in my mind
This is this is not good
So the guy shows up to purchase the seats from him and then shoots him in his own gosh never saw it coming
I I get it chris. and like I said, he probably just looked at him funny
No, you could say that he needed to watch his back, but he already was so
Have we ever claimed anything else?
Oh
Did you see this jake? What is this? No, go ahead jess. This is pretty
Ram put this up in their
merch store
But that is a Toyota Tacoma
Oh my gosh, you're right. It is
Wait
Yeah, it's like some ai slop or something. Yeah
This was legit in their store. Yeah
Oh, do we have like did people do comparisons of like here's the ram versus toyota?
I'm sure they did. I didn't side by side that much
Uh, man, if you could have gotten one of those
Well, yeah, like if any of them sold
Ram power they're all over
You can get them all over the place now
Well, someone probably just max the image too and like read
You know what I mean? You could just download the image and put it on a t-shirt too. It's probably what's happening
Oh
Ram power
No, no, nothing on anything. All right next week on the podcast guys
Um, we've got travis wait. Who's coming on the puck? I'm gonna keep it a secret for now
I'm gonna keep it a secret. We're gonna have a podcast episode should be fun for everybody
It's gonna come out next week and we have the rally the week after that
Um, so we'll probably maybe maybe take that week off
Other than that, we will see jake and I will see you guys. What what what what?
I I want I want just to I found the like exact photo
That is based on of the tundra like the same angle and everything. It is so obvious once you see it side by side. It's terrible
Let's see it. Okay. I'm gotta share then
All right, here we go. Okay. There's yeah, there's the ram power
All right, so you see here's ram power, right the t-shirt. Are you seeing it? Yeah. Yeah, okay, and that's a new ram
And this is exactly the same angle and what it looks like
Like seeing that and then seeing this I was like
Ah
I love a I'm seeing it so much in commercials. I hate it
Oh, yeah, especially if you watch like a live tv
Yep, um, you're you're getting super laggy. You're getting super super laggy. So I'm gonna I'm gonna hang up the phone on you right now. Um
Yeah, probably probably because you're sharing never supposed to share that's that for this week guys
We will see you all next week
Take care
Holy leg batman
Really?
About this episode
Ferrari identity gets debated through generational picks like the F40 versus the Enzo, then the conversation turns into a “Prius of Ferraris” critique of positioning—whether Ferrari is being marketed like an appliance instead of a heritage brand. The hosts also pivot into practical car-life: rally prep oil and lifter worries, diagnosing an auxiliary fan via a temperature sensor, and a long thread on oil-pan/windage-tray fitment and clearance. Along the way, they argue about boxy JDM styling, project-car definitions, and alignment-driven tire wear.
Jake and Kris get into rally prep, a project truck that keeps finding reasons to stay parked, and the the guys debate the Ferrari Luce release that has everyone online wondering if it's a parody. Mrs. Producer brings a story off the wire. and chats her own unrealistic project car desires.
