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Welcome to Daily Drive for Friday, January 30th, 2026. I'm Kellan Walker in Las Vegas.
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Today on the show, Elon Musk is thinking about merging Tesla with SpaceX.
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Minivans make a roaring comeback, and automotive suppliers are bracing for consolidation as cost
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pressures mount. Plus, Cox Automotive's Jessica Stafford explains why car buyer satisfaction
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hit a record 76% in what's driving the shift. We feel like what's driving that satisfaction and
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that loyalty is, it's a little simple, but it's meeting the needs of the consumer.
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Let's run through all the news you need to know to keep up in the auto industry.
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Elon Musk is considering some major consolidation moves. Bloomberg News reports
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that SpaceX is weighing a potential merger with Tesla or alternatively with XAI ahead of a planned
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IPO this year. The discussions would bring Musk's rockets, Starlink satellites,
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ex-social media platform, and GROC AI chatbot under one roof. Some Tesla shareholders have been
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pushing for the combination. They argue Musk spreads himself too thin across his companies.
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Tesla shares jumped 4.5% after hours on the news. SpaceX is targeting a June IPO
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that could raise $50 billion, which would make it the biggest IPO of all time.
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Many vans are roaring back. US sales climbed 20% to more than 395,000 in 2025,
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according to the Automotive News data center. Sales in Canada surged 34% last year to 42,377.
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The segment's best year since 2020. So, what's driving the comeback? The answer is affordability.
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Consumers are trading down from pricier three-row SUVs.
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Stalantis CEO Chris Fewell says the vehicles are finding new buyers beyond families.
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Think gig workers, grandparents, and campers.
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You've got parents with younger families and the millennial cohort is growing in size and
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their consideration for many vans. And then you've got Gen X and boomers who are entering
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the grandparenting life stage. They're also active road trippers and many vans are a great option for
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them. Analysts expect growth to continue. You can hear Chris Fewell's full conversation
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with our own Greg Lason on this week's Automotive News Canada podcast,
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available now wherever you get your podcasts. And automotive suppliers are bracing for a wave
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of consolidation in 2026 as cost pressures and market volatility take their toll. High cost,
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tariffs, and rapid shifts in automaker electrification plans have strained
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supplier finances since the pandemic. Parts makers cut at least 60,000 jobs last year in North
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America and Europe. That's according to the Automotive News supplier distress tracker.
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Joining me now to talk about supplier consolidation is our own John Irwin,
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who's been following supplier distress closely. John, welcome back to Daily Drive.
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Thanks for having me back.
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So John, what are suppliers telling you about specific pressures that are pushing them
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toward consolidation right now?
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Yeah. A lot of it's kind of similar to what we've been talking about over the past several years,
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where suppliers really since the pandemic have sort of seen their margins squeezed and
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whether that's by high raw material costs, kind of relatively volatile production,
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at least earlier this decade, labor issues, that sort of thing. Really over the past year or two,
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obviously, with tariffs being added to the mix, with changes in electrification plans,
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particularly that last point where suppliers made these massive investments into electrification
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to supply parts and components for automakers in their EV production. But a lot of those plans,
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especially among the Detroit three, are being scaled back. Suppliers are sort of being left
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holding the bag, not getting much of a return on those investments. In all, there's a feeling of
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suppliers feeling kind of squeezed and a lot of financial pressure being put on them.
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And as a result, a lot of suppliers are looking at, do we consolidate, do we look for M&A at the
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moment? Because that might be a way for some companies to become more cost efficient, maybe
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less vulnerable to these really fast swings in the marketplace, whether that's driven by
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geopolitics and tariffs and that sort of thing, or whether it's where the market ends up on
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electrification. So a lot of companies are kind of looking at that as a potential option.
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At the same time, a lot are also looking at partnerships and JVs and that sort of thing.
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The idea of just kind of bringing more capabilities, either in-house or working with
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companies more closely to make sure that you're able to be a little nimble in a moment where
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there's not a lot of long-term clarity on where things might end up.
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So you're not left maybe not getting those returns on investment that
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a lot of suppliers are struggling with right now with their electrification investments.
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And with the Supreme Court set to rule on Trump's tariffs and the USMCA review looming,
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how are suppliers positioning themselves to handle whatever comes next?
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Yeah, like I just said, there's a lot of uncertainty about where things end up.
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I mean, even just looking at those two issues, look at USMCA and there's a wide range of options
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where maybe this year the countries agreed to extend the USMCA, keep things maybe about where
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they're at now. Maybe there are massive changes to it. The agreement might end up getting blown
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up entirely. There's a wide range of outcomes there. And it's difficult to know, okay, if we're
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in North America, we operate on these North American trade rules, we don't know exactly what
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those rules are going to look like in the future. And it's a similar thing with the
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Supreme Court and tariffs and where tariffs are going to end up long term. And so I think the big
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thing a lot of companies are looking at is just how do we become nimble. And a lot of that is
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making sure that I talked with at CES a few weeks back with Paul Thomas who leads Bosch in North
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America. And one of the things that he said was that for a company like them, they're looking to
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make sure that they have all options open regardless of where things end up. For instance,
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on electrification, if it turns out a few years from now, EV demand is higher than they're expecting
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at the moment. Okay, we're able to pivot at our plants. We make components for both ICE and EV
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programs here at this plant in South Carolina. For instance, we can pivot and just move production
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a little bit more in the EV direction. Or vice versa, EV demand continues to maybe slow a bit.
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We can pivot more back toward ICE if we need to. For a company like Bosch, it might be maybe a
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little easier just because I don't want to say easier, but for a company like Bosch, they have
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the resources to maybe do that. Some of the smaller suppliers that maybe only rely on a couple of
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programs that can be a little more difficult. But even for them, that's something that they're
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looking at doing. Maybe not being tied up in one program, in one program or one product.
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Yeah, I think that's sort of where suppliers are really looking to make sure that they're not just
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putting all their eggs in one basket. It's just because there's no way to really know at the
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moment where things are going to end up at the end of this year, let alone five years from now.
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Perfect. John Owen, thank you so much for joining me.
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You can read more about the latest on supplier distress and all of today's top stories at
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AutoNews.com. Coming up next, Cox Automotive's Jessica Stafford discusses why Car Buyer's
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satisfaction hit a record 76% and how digital tools and AI are reshaping the buying journey.
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That's next on Daily Drive.
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Welcome back to Daily Drive. I'm Kellan Walker. While affordability remains top of mind for car
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buyers, shoppers' satisfaction with their dealer experience grew in 2025. That's according to
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Cox Automotive's Car Buyer Journey Study. Jessica Stafford is Senior Vice President of Consumer
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Solutions at Cox. She spoke with Senior Editor Dan Shine about the key takeaways for dealers from
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the study. Jess, thanks so much for joining me on the FNI Friday edition of Daily Drive.
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Thanks so much for having me, Dan. Excited to be here. Well, we want to talk about the Cox
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Automotive Car Buyer Journey Study. This, I think, is an annual report, correct? It is. It is, yes.
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All right. And it has some good news for dealers. It seems like people are happy with their car
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buying process and with dealerships. Tell me a little bit about what you found.
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Yeah. It's really good news. And I mean, I would say not necessarily surprising, although we
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continue to see satisfaction tick up. Like you mentioned, we do this every year. And we see
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fluctuations. And of course, around the 2020 to 2024 timeframe, lots of changes. But the cool part is
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the 2025 study shows us that we're seeing record high satisfaction across all buyers,
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but particularly new car buyers. And the number itself is 76% being highly satisfied
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with the process itself, which is really high for a process. That's a big number, yeah. Yeah.
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And we all know this process of shopping and buying is complicated. Add to it things like the
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tariffs this year, affordability challenges, and everything going on in our industry and in our
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world could have set us up for a shaky year. But at the end of the day, consumers, car buyers out
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there are more and more satisfied. And what we're finding is that it really comes from three areas.
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Vehicle selection is always important. That influences their satisfaction every year.
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But two things that really stood out this year and that are making the car shopping process
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from what consumers tell us even more efficient and even smoother than years before is that it's
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all enabled by kind of a connected buying process. And so by being able to see more efficiency
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and this smoother process, these are the words consumers are using, they're happy with it.
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And it makes a lot of sense for if you think of URI as a consumer,
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if a buying experience is considered to be smooth and connected and it's efficient because we all
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want it to be more efficient, I'm going to be happy with it. Yeah. And I was interested too that
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the loyalty, dealership loyalty was pretty high too, that again, good news for dealerships and
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for dealers. There's a reasons for that. Again, it's a private go back to selection. If you give
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enough people a price range of maybe I can't afford this, but you got something lower for me,
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I can do that. Give them the right tools and they will feel like their needs are met and
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therefore they will be satisfied and therefore they will be loyal. I mean, it's kind of core
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cycle that works in a lot of industries, but particularly for us. And so a lot of that loyalty
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and satisfaction are coming from that same core of we're doing a better job as an industry,
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meeting consumers where they are. And a lot of that comes from the further adoption by a lot of
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dealers of digital tools, digital tools that are enabling consumers to do as much or as little of
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the process online ahead of walking into the dealership that they want. They can apply for
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credit apps. They can not only shop and find the car they want, but they can do a lot of those
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buying steps online ahead of going into the store, touching and feeling the car, asking their questions.
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And so we feel like what's driving that satisfaction and that loyalty is it's a little simple,
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but it's meeting the needs of the consumer. It's meeting them where they are. And they have these
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really high expectations for convenience and digital tools because you and I can order whatever we
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need and it shows up on our doorstep the next day. Right, push one button and it's there. Yeah,
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translates into big purchases too, where now we see most consumers don't want to, you know,
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push a button and have a car delivered to their front door. They want to do more research. They
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want an omnichannel experience where they can shop and touch and feel the car ask those questions.
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But they do want the ease and the seamlessness of kind of doing that at their own pace, engaging
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with the sales rep, with a with a person at the dealership to get their questions answered.
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Like I said, touch and feel the car, but those digital tools enable them to be even more efficient
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in the process. Yeah, I saw where like, you know, the total time spent purchasing the car was,
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you know, declined. And I think that's a major complaint. It's almost like going to the DMV or
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getting a root analysis, you know, it's going to take forever. And I think like, you know,
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that omnichannel where I can do a little bit of research on the front end online, I can apply
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and get approved online. So I know how much car I can buy. And then when I walk in, people, especially
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I think younger people are, they're better prepared. And so they're again, that's going to cut down on
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the time and dealerships that have that ability, I think, you know, again, I don't understand
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like buying a car without being able to like touch it and see it and drive it. But some people do.
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But yeah, but it's a small amount, you know, our studies are showing 7% or so of consumers
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want to want to buy completely online to your point, like really, really like completely digital,
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not touch and feel the car ahead of time. So it's really a small amount of folks still,
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the vast majority of consumers want to do a combination, a little bit online, a little bit
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offline. And so that concept of, you know, formal word, but omnichannel makes so much sense because
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you can do as much as much or as little. And I will tell you, you know, new technology, new,
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of course, I wouldn't even say it's trend anymore, but new realities of AI in our world.
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Right. I was going to ask about that.
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That adds just another channel to the omnichannel approach. And so consumers are playing with AI
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quite a bit. They're asking a lot of questions, they're doing research about vehicles,
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they're leveraging agentic experiences, both of course, on AI platforms, but then also on dealer
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websites, on third party websites like Auditrader or Kelly Blue Book, where you can have kind of
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a virtual consultant that's helping you through this process. And so we're seeing that while it's
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still a small amount of folks that are using those AI tools, you know, kind of like low double digits
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percentages of consumers are using those AI tools in their shopping process, it's continuing to grow.
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And over 80% of them are saying, I think my next car purchase for sure, I will be engaging even more
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in those AI tools. And so I think we'll continue to see that grow.
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One other A word I want to bring up, and that's affordability. I think I've noticed in your study,
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62% of consumers, car buyers said it's cost too much to buy or lease a vehicle. How is
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affordability issues kind of reshaping that car buyer journey?
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You know, it's interesting because despite those affordability concerns, and look, we all have it
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across not just cars, but everything we're buying. The fact that the satisfaction remains high is kind
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of this interesting dynamic. And it's coming from a place of we even we looked at it over the course
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of last year. And when tariffs and cost pressures came into play, 68% of buyers who purchased a
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little bit sooner than they would have because they were trying to get ahead of those prices,
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they were actually satisfied with the price they paid. And so you're seeing a mix there. And obviously
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we're seeing MSRP averages continue to kind of eke up that affordability is tough, but therefore
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shoppers are doing even more research ahead of time, and they're really trying to plan for their
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purchase. And so we see the concept of digital tools converge there as well, because they have
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the tools to do those comparisons and to sort through options. You know, like you mentioned,
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while time in the dealership is shrinking, we believe that also fuels their satisfaction.
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There's an interesting dynamic there because the study also showed 66% of buyers are considering
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both new and used these days, which is up from 57% prior. It's a pretty big jump from a percentage
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standpoint. And new car buyers are actually at an all time high for considering used. And so
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they're cross shopping more and more. A lot of that's coming from the affordability concerns.
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And really that drives that drives this concept of they're cross shopping, they're comparing,
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they're going to marketplace sites, you know, marketplaces, third party marketplaces have always
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been the highest when we do our surveys, the highest place that consumers go first and last in
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their shopping and buying process. Right now it's up over 75% because they can go to compare
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their options. And I think, you know, we see on average people, this study showed are going to
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about four and a half point 4.6 websites for their shopping experience, their shopping, and
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they're just they're comparing their options. I think that's interesting for our industry too,
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because it allows dealers, manufacturers, anyone selling a car to influence the consumer during
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their process. 71% of buyers go into the process with an open mind today, not knowing exactly what
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they want. And so you have a chance to sell them on your dealership, on your make and model, even
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on the model of how you sell them the car. Yeah, great interesting stuff from Cox Automotive and
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just YouTube as well. Thanks so much for sharing that. And some good take homes for dealerships
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and dealers to kind of think about. And again, I think it's, if you've got the digital tools to
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let the shoppers do a little bit at home before they get there, it's just going to make them a
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better experience for them. It sets everybody up for success. The consumers will be happy,
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dealers will sell more cars, be more profitable. And like you said, in the beginning, you know,
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really great news, of course, going into NADA here soon, but also just kicking off the year,
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high satisfaction will continue to drive that loyalty that's so important in our industry.
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Yeah. Jess, thanks so much for your time. Thanks, Dan. Jessica Stafford
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is Senior Vice President of Consumer Solutions at Cox. She spoke with our own Dan Shine.
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That's Daily Drive for today. I'm Kellan Walker. Thanks to Automotive News Executive
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Producer Jake Neer, as well as our own John Irwin for his reporting for today's podcast.
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We also had reporting from Greg Lason of our sibling publication Automotive News Canada.
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You can get the latest news on automotive retail, the potential Tesla SpaceX merger,
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and everything happening in the auto industry at AutoNews.com. Come back over the weekend for
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our weekend drive episode, where Larry Veliquette and Michael Martinez will discuss Tesla ending
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Model S and Model X production, Hyundai killing the Santa Cruz, and preview next week's NADA show
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here in Las Vegas. I think a lot of dealers are worried that this is the year automakers will
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start to pass along the tariff costs even more than they did in 2025, which could drive on prices
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and could anger those customers who are dealing with AI robots, if not, you know, real people.
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