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Have I been robbed?
01:58
Yeah, have I gotten to my throat?
01:59
Sure, I've had all those things.
02:02
You hosted one of the biggest TV shows in America.
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I am the luckiest guy in the world.
02:08
I liked anything that rolls, explodes, and makes noise.
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It doesn't get more unique than this.
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I have 214 cars and 168 motorcycles.
02:16
I have my face caught fire.
02:17
Boom, I got a face full of gasoline and a sparse jump control.
02:20
I had to call my face guy, hand me another face.
02:23
How did you come to be in that seat for that show?
02:27
Being dyslexic, I always had the wrong answer.
02:30
This was the cue of a dyslexic when I was a kid.
02:32
Smarten up, smarten up.
02:34
What do you think in your journey to where you are now
02:36
has been one of the toughest things you've had to overcome?
02:39
You know, my wife's got Alzheimer's and dementia.
02:43
That's a little tricky.
02:44
They say money can't buy happiness.
02:54
Jay, when I think of automotive collectors and my favorite YouTubers,
03:00
I keep coming back to a garage, Jay Leno's garage.
03:05
I'm watching the amazing videos that you've created on your channel.
03:09
But there's so much more that I know that you've achieved
03:12
in your really long career and building this collection
03:15
than just talking about the garage itself.
03:17
Well, it's running out of collection.
03:18
I just never sold anything.
03:19
I didn't set out to collect things.
03:22
I just bought what I liked and I just never sell anything.
03:27
So, you know, you park it and you come back and, you know,
03:29
six months later, oh, it's like a new car.
03:31
You know, I was like, oh, I forgot how nice this is.
03:33
Oh, what a weather, you know.
03:34
So I don't really think of it as a collection.
03:37
But I've gotten used to saying collection now, so that's OK.
03:40
So if somebody asks you after doing so many things
03:44
over your lifetime, in your own words,
03:46
who are you and what do you do?
03:48
How would you answer that question now?
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Well, it's not really that complicated.
03:52
I mean, I'm a stand-up comedian that was fortunate enough
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to get a TV show and that worked out well.
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But I was always a stand-up comedian either on weekends
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or during the week after the show.
04:02
And I like the engine that rolls, explodes, it makes noise.
04:05
So I always enjoyed it.
04:07
You know, I grew up in a rural area.
04:09
So when I was a kid, you could buy cars for $25.
04:13
In fact, people would abandon a car on the street
04:18
and they'd take the plates off it.
04:20
They'd pick it up, they'd drag it home, they'd get it running
04:22
and you'd drive it around in the field.
04:24
You know, we had three acres of property.
04:26
We were in kind of rural areas.
04:28
So when I was 12, you know, my mom would watch from the window
04:31
watching the dishes, watch us kids drive cars around.
04:34
So of course, now they call child services
04:36
and the parents are arrested.
04:37
But then it was not unusual, you know.
04:40
So you pay in us a picture of what life was like growing up
04:43
because you've become to many such a successful individual.
04:46
You've turned that success into passion and things you love
04:49
and you're still doing things you love,
04:50
which is the dream to so many.
04:52
So you've described a few of the ingredients
04:55
that made up your childhood.
04:57
But if you had to pick a moment from your earliest years
04:59
that you think led you on the path to where you are today
05:02
that was really significant for you,
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what would spring to mind?
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It was significant.
05:09
You know, I was lucky.
05:10
I had very good teachers when I was a kid.
05:15
This is the cue of a dyslexic when I was a kid.
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Smarten up, smarten up, smarten up.
05:23
So nobody really thought of it as,
05:24
now everything is a disability.
05:29
my mother would always say to me,
05:31
you're just going to have to work hard
05:32
and the other kids to get the same thing.
05:34
And that seemed like a fair trade off to me.
05:37
So I always, I did that.
05:38
And as I got older,
05:39
I realized when I met other dyslexic people,
05:42
they weren't interested in something.
05:45
But when they were,
05:46
oh, God, they focused like a laser beam.
05:48
And they knew all about cars,
05:50
all about motor, whatever it might be.
05:52
So I never looked at it as a particular disability.
05:56
But probably, you know,
05:58
I had a teacher tell me one time,
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oh, you have to think of me in a comedy writing
06:02
or I was telling jokes.
06:03
And where I grew up,
06:05
no, that didn't even seem like a business
06:07
or a comedy writer.
06:09
But, you know, nobody was in show business, you know.
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So, yeah, there are a couple of moments like that, I guess.
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So where was it that you grew up?
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I was born under Shell New York,
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which is the suburb of New York City.
06:22
And then my dad worked for insurance company.
06:24
He got transferred to a rural office in Massachusetts
06:27
about 30 miles north of Boston.
06:30
And so that's where I spent my form of views
06:34
No, yeah, I guess, yeah,
06:36
six or seven on through, you know, high school and college.
06:41
You spoke about your mother twice already,
06:43
looking at you out of the window.
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Who was your father?
06:46
Was he an absolute car nerd as well?
06:49
My mother's from Greenwich, Scotland,
06:51
and my father's Italian.
06:53
The most hilarious combination,
06:55
just Scottish and Italian.
06:57
It was just the funniest sort of family
07:04
each, you know, when you're a kid,
07:06
each tried to pull you off to their side, you know?
07:09
And like the Scotch side,
07:12
Jamie, would you like a scone and some Coca-Cola?
07:15
Now, since I was from Scotland,
07:18
you don't need to keep Coca-Cola refrigerated, Jamie.
07:21
It tastes the same way that it's warmed up
07:23
and it costs money to go.
07:25
So I'd get like a warm Coke
07:27
and like this stale biscuit, you know,
07:34
I mean, they're wonderful people.
07:36
And then you go to the Italian side,
07:38
there'd be meatballs and pasta
07:40
and all kinds of things like that, you know, pizza.
07:43
And it was funny because
07:45
when we go to Sunday dinner,
07:47
when the Scotch side would come,
07:49
they go, Jamie, the Italian people,
07:51
they waste food, Jamie,
07:53
there's only eight people here.
07:55
There must be 35 meatballs.
07:57
There's no reason to make so many meatballs.
07:59
You know, and the Italian side
08:01
would always like tease the Scotch side.
08:07
he passed out at the table.
08:09
It was a hot day, just passed out.
08:12
So my dad goes to loosen his belt
08:15
to give him some excuse.
08:17
You won't get me wallet.
08:19
I don't want your wallet.
08:21
I mean, it was just very funny.
08:23
I mean, it was a loving family,
08:25
but just Scotch and Italian.
08:27
It just used to make me laugh.
08:30
So what you said is that you were quite a jokey kid.
08:33
Your teacher had even picked up on that.
08:36
Which you've described yourself as like an extrovert.
08:38
Like you've always been this person.
08:41
I always tell jokes.
08:42
You know, when you're a community,
08:44
you tend to remember things that make people laugh.
08:47
And yeah, I just kind of do that, I suppose.
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that you really realized you had a passion for automotive?
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Well, I mean, as a kid,
09:02
I always liked cars and motorcycles and things.
09:05
It was just, you know, it was, oh, a car goes by,
09:07
a motorcycle goes by.
09:08
I remember my uncle,
09:12
and he bought a Harley.
09:14
And he gave me a magazine.
09:17
And I went to this Harley.
09:19
It was one of those, it was a 1956 Harley
09:23
Duglide, he used to call it.
09:25
That was the big Harley.
09:27
And it had, the windshield was green at the top
09:29
and clear at the bottom.
09:31
And at the clear part, it had a decal of a girl like this,
09:34
you know, but with like a two-piece bathing suit.
09:37
I mean, the most modest bathing suit,
09:39
you know, just a two-screen.
09:41
And I went over to my mother,
09:43
and my mother said,
09:44
get away from that.
09:45
I said, I'm looking,
09:46
get away from that girl.
09:47
Don't be looking at such things as that.
09:49
I said, I'm not looking,
09:50
I want to look at the motorcycle.
09:52
You know, I just, I always remember there's a key,
09:54
because I did, I didn't care about the girl.
09:56
I didn't want to see the motorcycle.
09:58
My mother said, no, you can,
09:59
because the girl was on the motorcycle.
10:01
No, I couldn't look at it.
10:04
With the dream of having those motorcycles
10:06
and having the cars that were on those mags
10:08
almost feel unachievable to you at that age.
10:11
Like were you growing up?
10:13
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
10:14
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
10:15
Maybe it's something about growing up in America.
10:18
I worked in a foreign car dealership.
10:20
And we did new car prep.
10:23
And I was the youngest guy.
10:24
And most of the guys were in the 30s.
10:27
And we, there was a guy named Tony Sabian,
10:31
who was a, what do you call it,
10:34
a decorator, a home decorator, you know.
10:37
And he had a bunch of Mercedes.
10:39
And once a week we would go out and clean his cars.
10:43
And I remember one of the guys who wouldn't be great
10:45
if it was their only job to clean his guys' cars.
10:49
And I said, wouldn't it be great,
10:51
wouldn't it be better to be the guy and own the cars?
10:53
And they went, what?
10:55
What are you talking about?
10:56
I feel like that could happen.
10:58
I said, why couldn't that?
10:59
And I didn't know what, why couldn't that happen?
11:03
I mean, I don't know.
11:04
They just, they just couldn't dream beyond what they,
11:09
you know, they got a job washing cars.
11:12
They drank, you know, they go drinking every weekend.
11:16
And they never saw past that.
11:18
But what do you think made you recognize that
11:21
versus what was going on in their lives
11:23
if you were going up to the same place?
11:25
You couldn't achieve something if you tried for it.
11:28
I mean, I, and I tell you,
11:30
I achieved everything I tried for it.
11:32
It just seemed like, why not?
11:35
I mean, why couldn't you?
11:37
I mean, these guys just so beaten down
11:40
by the system or whatever you want to call it.
11:43
It was just depressing.
11:44
It's like, really guys, you can't see me on.
11:48
You think you got something?
11:50
I mean, I bought that Rolls because he used to work for Rolls Royce.
11:53
I used to deliver them and pick them up and, you know,
11:56
and I thought, oh, maybe someday I'll get one of those
11:59
And I thought, oh, you know, Michael, Michael Cain,
12:01
I have the discussion.
12:02
Michael Cain, he's the Liverpool kids.
12:05
And he told me, he went into the dealership
12:10
to look at the Rolls Royce and the guy chased him away,
12:13
you know, because, you know, just with his accent
12:16
and the way he was talking, he was deliverable.
12:18
You're never going to find something like, you know,
12:20
English upper class snub, you know.
12:24
So the first thing he did, he made money, bought a Rolls Royce.
12:29
But he bought it just to piss off that guy.
12:32
And I just loved that.
12:33
It just made me laugh.
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Would you always be fascinated
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if you were delivering Rolls Royces in your earliest years
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and you were washing people's cars
13:03
and they had multiple cars?
13:04
Would you always want to know what they did to do that?
13:07
Were you quite like...
13:08
You've ended up being one of the greatest interviewers
13:10
at your own TV show.
13:12
I mean, I did, yeah.
13:13
Were you always interested in the person behind?
13:14
I was always interested in that.
13:16
I remember there were a couple of hockey players
13:17
that had Rolls Royces.
13:19
And they would bring them in.
13:20
And there would be beer cans.
13:22
And, you know, the carpets would be sort of
13:26
And the lettuce all, you know.
13:29
I mean, they were fairly new,
13:31
And I think, oh, you should make me somewhere.
13:34
Yeah, because you grew up treating things with respect.
13:37
Just the idea that it just seems so stupid of me.
13:40
And I meet so many people like that in Hollywood, you know.
13:42
So what age were you delivering those Rolls Royces
13:45
and have gone into that motor track?
13:47
You obviously loved cars from those earliest years.
13:52
17, 18, 19 driving around in Rolls Royces.
13:55
You must have been over the moon at that point anyway.
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Well, it was really because on those days, you see,
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when you bought a Rolls Royce,
14:02
Rolls Royces are a very small company.
14:04
They never really had much money.
14:06
They didn't sell that many cars.
14:08
So cars who come in by boat to the port of New Jersey,
14:12
I would have to drive down or fly down from Boston
14:16
and then drive them back,
14:18
because the transporters are too expensive.
14:20
And when people are, why is the car 200,
14:22
oh, those are test miles done by the technician.
14:25
You know, that's just stupid.
14:26
Yeah, so that's what I would do.
14:28
I would have to go down and pick the cars up
14:30
and bring them back.
14:31
I remember one day, I'll never forget this day,
14:34
there was an auto show
14:36
and I had a Corniche convertible
14:39
and I had to pick up six Bikini models
14:42
that were going to the show.
14:44
Okay, now I got long hair.
14:46
I'm driving a Rolls Royce.
14:48
I got these six Bikini models.
14:50
I come to a red light
14:52
or like five guys digging a hole
14:57
They just look at me like, you asshole.
14:59
I mean, they just say, I got five bikini models.
15:02
I'm like 18 long hair.
15:05
I'm one of the guys.
15:08
It's not like, yeah, they're just like,
15:10
I can see them just getting mad or mad.
15:12
They're just waiting for this light to change.
15:14
These guys would come over and beat the shit out of me.
15:16
Yeah, but they didn't.
15:17
But it just made me laugh.
15:19
But it's just like rich hippie pulls up in a roll.
15:22
But you're 18, having moments that make you feel
15:25
like you're having the time of your life.
15:27
You know, that's the way to live.
15:29
That's the way to live.
15:30
Many people would be content with that
15:33
in their normal lives
15:35
to get to a point where they're driving Rolls Royces
15:37
and you've got something in the back.
15:40
I was content at any point in my life.
15:46
Why don't I have this?
15:48
I was always very happy whatever point I was at.
15:51
I was happy whatever car I had.
15:55
But I just thought, OK, let's see what happens next.
15:58
I never felt, oh, I'm going to get this.
16:02
I'm going to get even with those people.
16:04
No, I mean, it was never that kind of a thing.
16:10
And you know, there's that old thing
16:13
if you take like a thousand people
16:15
into each throw dice,
16:17
eventually going to get on one guy
16:20
and he's going to win the whole pot
16:22
because they're all throwing dice.
16:23
I mean, you're going to think you're pretty special
16:25
if you're that guy.
16:27
I didn't do anything.
16:29
Why did I win this?
16:30
You know what I mean?
16:31
And that's kind of where I was.
16:33
Everything I kind of did,
16:35
I was pretty lucky.
16:37
OK, and some was lucky,
16:40
but some was also, you know,
16:41
I find that people that don't succeed in life,
16:45
especially really has nothing to do with talent.
16:49
Too straight, too gay, too high,
16:51
too drunk, too jealous, too envious.
16:54
Oh, something in a man about something.
16:57
I mean, there's always some inner turmoil
16:59
that has nothing to do.
17:01
I mean, assuming they have the talent to begin with, you know.
17:04
But I've seen this with movie stars all the time.
17:06
The number of times they had celebrities on
17:09
and they're on the show and they're excited.
17:12
Next time they're a star.
17:14
Next time they're high in the dressing room.
17:17
Next time they're divorced, they got in the car.
17:20
I mean, it's almost like, really?
17:23
I mean, this is this.
17:26
How do you how do you fall for it?
17:28
It's so cliche that you just fall into it.
17:31
And you notice that pattern over and over again.
17:33
I was always stunned by it, you know.
17:35
I never assumed I was smarter or better
17:40
But I looked at what made most men weak
17:43
and there was drugs, alcohol, women gambling.
17:46
OK, you can get those out of your life,
17:49
but it keeps some of the women.
17:51
You get those out of your life.
17:54
Because everybody, you know, it's been one of those.
17:57
Every friend I've had that was, you know, it's so stupid.
18:01
In this day and age, so many young people
18:03
in their 20s are in their teens.
18:05
If they're working for a business,
18:06
especially one that does cars,
18:07
you see the reels on Instagram all the time
18:10
It's like, oh, the social media guys come in
18:13
My generation is so exposed to cameras
18:16
that it's almost normal to have been
18:18
on camera or video at some point.
18:20
I'm a huge believer in low self-esteem.
18:23
It's the key to success.
18:25
If you don't think you're the smartest person,
18:27
being dyslexic, I always had the wrong answer.
18:31
So if I find if I didn't answer,
18:34
no one would know how dumb I was.
18:37
And, oh, that kind of worked because that moved me along
18:40
because other guys would answer and be dumber
18:43
and they'd be eliminated and I would move forward.
18:45
I know that sounds ridiculous,
18:47
but it really does.
18:49
You know, when I got to Tonight Show,
18:53
most people can't do anything.
18:56
Some people can do one thing
18:58
and then there are a few people who can do many things.
19:00
I can do one thing.
19:01
I was pretty good at being a comedian
19:02
and doing, okay, that worked for me.
19:04
I know I'm not a lighting director.
19:08
So when I got the TV show,
19:10
I hired the best lighting guy I could get.
19:12
You do the lights, you're directing,
19:14
you guys just tell me when I suck, okay?
19:17
Just tell me when I suck.
19:19
And they did, but I had a lot of people
19:21
that would fire people who thought when they sucked.
19:23
And then eventually you had that kind of show
19:26
where everybody in the show doesn't care if they lose their job
19:29
as long as that prick loses his job
19:31
because he's so mean to everybody.
19:32
You know what I'm saying?
19:33
And that always worked for me.
19:35
I had the same crew for the whole 22 years I was on TV.
19:38
And that mattered to you a lot
19:40
because one year I read that you actually
19:43
gave up half of your salary package.
19:46
To keep on the key crew members that you wanted.
19:48
I was making ridiculous money.
19:49
I mean, I was making $30 million a year,
19:54
And, you know, they wanted to get rid of that.
19:58
I'm just kind of funny.
19:59
I told them, I said, look, I went home,
20:01
I sat down with my wife.
20:05
We realized if we eat just one day a week outside
20:09
instead of at home,
20:12
we can live on $15 million.
20:16
Everybody thought that was pretty funny.
20:18
So from that point on,
20:20
I had the loyalist crew.
20:25
I mean, we saved all the jobs.
20:27
And you realize, I mean, that's what it's about really.
20:29
It's about being the time you have,
20:31
trying to make it enjoyable,
20:33
trying to make it comfortable.
20:34
And if some people around you actually like you,
20:37
it's a pleasure to go to work.
20:39
I mean, I have so many friends, you know,
20:41
they're told, don't look the staff in the eye
20:44
because you might have to find them some day.
20:46
So, you know, what's to live like that?
20:48
I mean, what are you doing, you know?
20:51
I was very happy with all of it.
20:53
You know, we had, when I took over the show,
20:56
we hired everybody that's brand new.
21:00
And so consequently, they're at the show
21:02
like 16 hours a day, 18 hours a day.
21:05
So they all intermarried.
21:07
And when we ended the show,
21:09
we had 64 children born on the show.
21:12
From all the people that intermarried
21:15
from working on the show.
21:17
I mean, some of them were 18 and 19 and 20.
21:20
Some of them were just a few months old.
21:22
But we all brought them out at the end.
21:24
And it was very moving.
21:25
It was fascinating.
21:27
It was just fun to see, you know?
21:29
It was like, oh, it was great.
21:31
It was kind of like a fun family.
21:33
And everybody ended and there was no bitter feelings
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Somebody's bitter, probably.
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But for the most part, you know, yeah.
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That's just life is not, you know, show business is not hard.
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People just make it difficult.
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And I don't know, that makes any sense.
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My generation are so used to being in front of the camera.
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When did you go on camera for the first time
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to forget to get from delivering the cars
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to on a show that's earning $30 million a year?
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Like what's the magic in between?
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Well, I remember when I was a kid, I was like six.
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My uncle Tony, yeah, he was like 20 years younger than my dad.
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He went on a TV game show.
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We lived in New York at that time.
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And the show taped in New York.
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I saw him walk on on the TV black and white, you know,
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And I thought, that's unbelievable.
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It's like, I'm my uncle.
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How did he get that time?
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Because everybody's like, after the show,
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he came to the house.
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Oh, that's pretty good.
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Look at all the attention you get.
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That's pretty good.
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You know, I was just aware of that.
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It just made me laugh.
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It was a totally different thing
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that everybody has a camera now.
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Like when I was a kid, to me, the thing still to this day,
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when I was a kid, at least once or twice a month,
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somebody would have a picture of a UFO
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because they just happened to have a camera
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as that flying saucer came around.
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It was in every paper.
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And the flying saucer looked like a flying saucer.
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It had rivets and everything in it, you know.
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Now everybody has a camera.
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Everybody knows this.
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Why aren't we seeing UFOs?
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We all just want that to be a UFO so bad.
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Or bigfoot or any of those things.
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Yeah, it just makes me laugh.
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So, yeah, it is different now.
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You know, I see people my age,
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like when I was growing up,
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you couldn't print something if it wasn't true
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because you would be sued and it would be illegal.
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So, I have some people, I know they,
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I just saw something on the internet.
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It's on the internet.
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This is not, there's no law anymore.
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You can do whatever you want, you know.
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So, it just strikes me funny when I see that.
23:56
There's a lot of AI content out there
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as well as we enter this new generation
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that only makes that problem worse.
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But if you take it right back
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to when it was the beginnings of all that
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and you were going on screen for the first time,
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do you remember the first time you got,
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let's say, a big break
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or a moment that you got you in front of the camera
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that you feel is like significant
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The first thing I did is an American TV show
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but the show I eventually took over, the Tonight Show,
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that was my first big show.
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Because before that it was the Jay Leno show, right?
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No, I had nothing before that.
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And VCR did just come out.
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So, because I was going to be on TV,
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It was as big as this table.
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It was this huge thing.
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It had a big, big handle on it,
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and then you put this cassette in,
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and it would take a half hour.
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And I taped myself on the show
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and then we watched it back out.
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This is unbelievable.
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It just seemed because you couldn't tape a TV show.
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So, the VCRs were just coming out,
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but it was as big as this
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and it cost $1,200 in 1977,
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which is like $10,000.
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And it weighed like 300, 400 pounds.
25:19
You might be wondering how I'm interviewing Jay Leno,
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the most incredible interviewer of all time.
25:24
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it's the perfect thing to help you get to this position.
26:16
How did you come to be in that seat for that show?
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How did that happen?
26:21
How did you find yourself in that position
26:24
to take over that show?
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They were looking at a lot of comics.
26:29
And, okay, Johnny would have guest hosts.
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Now, Johnny owned this show.
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So when did I get a call from this agent
26:42
and he had represented six comedians
26:45
who were also guest hosts?
26:48
And he said, you know, I'm getting $25,000 a show
26:52
for my clients to host.
26:55
I said, well, I'm doing it for $512 a show,
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which is the scale.
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He goes, if I can get in 25, we're getting $25,000.
27:06
But I knew Johnny owned this show.
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I said, you know, thanks.
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I just stay where I make a mistake.
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And I'm like, okay.
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All right, at the end of the month,
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Johnny goes, okay, we spent $300,000 as guest hosts.
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You know, it's really about $512.
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Do you get about the same ratings?
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Well, we make him the permanent guy.
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That's very simple.
27:32
I mean, it couldn't be simpler.
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You know, to me, I always looked at the big picture.
27:38
It was always about doing the job.
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He's flicked off his clip on his mic.
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I thought you took it to a show.
27:50
Oh, I thought you'd shot, mate.
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No, I just remember that.
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To this day, I take just about every job I'm offering.
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Because I say, I'm not going there for that money.
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What are you doing on the Tuesday that's worth $5,000?
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What are you doing?
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What are you doing on that Tuesday?
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Yeah, just take the job.
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So do you think some of the key to your success is always being humble enough to take every
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opportunity you're given?
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Well, yeah, I think there's probably that.
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No, just not to think you're anything special.
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You know, you're only as good as your last joke.
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That's really what it comes down to.
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And always have something to offer.
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I'd always see comedians that go on show, be funny, be funny.
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And then the next two or three times, they just go on it themselves.
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Yeah, I just want to talk to them.
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I don't want to do my act.
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I just want to talk.
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Well, they're not there to be yourself.
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You're there to be the person they think is funny.
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You don't go on unless you're prepared.
28:54
So how many times have you seen a comedian really funny, pretty good?
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I wasn't very good at this stuff.
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You know, it's diminishing returns because it's hard writing jokes.
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It's a hard job coming up with jokes.
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And if you don't, you eventually just fizz out, you know.
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So that's the thing, you try to keep it going, you know.
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Well, you clearly were keeping it going and it's enabled you to build a life
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where you're able to get some of the most incredible cars you could ever dream of.
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What was one of the first that blew your mind?
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Like, oh my God, I've been able to buy this.
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Well, I bought that McLaren F1.
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That's a pretty good starting point.
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I'm not sure I've done a podcast with the McLaren F1 in the back shot of it before.
29:38
That's a pretty good one there.
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You know what's so funny?
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That car, I remember, I bought it secondhand.
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I heard one was for sale and I called my brother and I said,
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I don't know, it's a lot of money.
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He says, well, if you wanted it.
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I said, yeah, but it's 800.
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I said, let me call.
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So I called Harold Dermott.
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He was the salesman.
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Yes, we have it here.
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It's secondhand, 800,000.
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I said, well, it was 800,000.
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Well, we think we're going to go up in value.
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He was right there.
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Well, I said to him, I said, I tell you what,
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I'll call you in two weeks.
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If you haven't sold it, then I'll buy it.
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So I'm praying that it gets sold.
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So I don't have to buy this.
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Yeah, because you played Mr. Kool-Doo, but really you're like,
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You know, so I wait and I call Harold.
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He said, we had an inquiry today.
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And I think, of course, that's phony.
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I said, well, he goes, well, it's massive journey.
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I said, all right, I'll buy it.
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I said, but I'm paying the same price as one of us knew.
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We think they're going to go up in value.
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And then the really funny story was there are only 64 of them.
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I'm driving at home and I come up my street and I see
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another one parked three houses down from me.
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I don't know everybody on my street.
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So I pull in behind it and I go up to the house and I knock on the door.
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And this beautiful supermodel opens the door.
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We're in just a towel.
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So I'm in the shower.
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I said, whose car is it?
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She asked my boyfriend's car.
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I said, you know, I've got one just like it.
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Well, I mean, you see, it's a very rare, and she's dripping wet.
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I said, look, here, they just have your boyfriend call me, you know.
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He goes, you want one too?
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I said, yeah, yeah.
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And you only had a short time and someone offered him a million three.
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You know, I think he paid a little less than I did.
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He thought, well, I'll never see that money.
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I don't want to sell it.
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But okay, I'll get stupidest thing you ever do.
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Yeah, it was very fun.
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I know someone that I grew up with owned a builders merchant in the UK.
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And they bought him a clarinet one for 300,000 pounds.
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And sold it for 600,000 pounds thinking they'd made.
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And they're a genius.
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And I think the funniest story would not be him.
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He sold his business and was very successful years later.
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And he said, you know, I've worked all these years to build this business.
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Blood, sweat and tears.
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And if I'd still just had that car, I could have sold it for four times what I'd just gone
32:34
But you can't think that way.
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You got to think, whatever had an accident, I couldn't afford to repair it.
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And you would have taken insurance loss or whatever it might be.
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See, I'm always, see, I never shoot for happiness.
32:49
I shoot for contented because happiness is like a euphoric stage.
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If you're happy all the time, you're a crazy person.
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Nobody's, you're not happy all the time.
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You're like an idiot if you're happy all the time.
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So I just, I shoot for contented.
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And then the little times when I am happy, oh, it's a nice little thing for a few minutes.
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Let's get right back to contented.
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You know, I never believe the good stuff or the bad stuff.
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People go, I hear the greatest comic ever.
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You're the worst comic ever seen.
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I listened to everything and then I just tried to try to live in the real world.
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That's, that's the key.
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Who was it that you rang other than your brother to tell them that you just bought your first-ever
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Well, more than, you know, my mother had no idea.
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The one, you know, my mother's is very funny.
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Well, I'll find it.
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Here's the Scottish mom.
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And I got it was the tonight show starring Jay Leno.
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And my mother was starred in Jay Leno.
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Oh, listen to Mr. Big Shot starred in.
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He's got to put his name on the phone.
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I go, mom, that's what they do on TV.
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They put you in the opt-out.
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Like your people know you're there.
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You put starred in in Big Word.
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So finally after two weeks, I changed the tonight show with Jay Leno because I knew
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my mother would not light up on this.
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You know, just that Scottish.
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Oh, listen to Mr. Big Shot.
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Yeah, just very funny.
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But would she still tune into every episode?
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My mother to the day she denied never understood.
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When I got to tonight show, I was on the cover of Time magazine, which is a huge
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magazine in the United States.
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So I called mom and said, mama, cover time.
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I said, call Uncle Frank in Florida and call and say New Jersey.
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She goes, I don't like your thing.
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Well, I think to put you on the cover of the ones they sell around here
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because they knew you're from here.
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I don't think they put you on the cover in those states.
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No, ma, I'm on the cover everywhere.
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No, ma, they don't just put me on in the town I grew up in.
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You know, just, yeah, hilarious.
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But would that frustrate you, make you laugh?
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Yes, that always made me laugh.
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My Italian, my Scottish relatives just always made me laugh.
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I heard my mother explain to her sister what I did for a living.
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I'm in the other room and Nettie was older than my mother.
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She was always wanted to try and, you know, upper, you know.
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And what she says, who is he?
35:21
And my aunt Nettie said, what's Jamie doing now?
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And I said, oh, he has a little skit that he puts on from town to town.
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You know, I go, I don't go into town and do a skit.
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You know, I mean, she, she never understood what I did.
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She, she, she never, I remember she said to me, no one wants someone that's funny all the time.
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Tell her, Joe, do a little dance, sing a little song.
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I go, it doesn't work. Nobody wants a song and dance.
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You just have to tell her, I don't think so.
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No, you do, trust me.
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Was your dad stood around when you started?
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Oh, my dad was great.
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My dad was Italian.
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My dad was a prize fighter.
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I mean, I was a tough guy.
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Yeah, it's very funny.
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I had the Italian on, of course, he has five dollars.
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Don't tell your mother about that.
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Yeah, you know, I always do that kind of thing.
36:06
So it sounds like they were always trying to keep you humble
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within their own way, through a lot.
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They were trying to keep you completely humble.
36:15
Some people would say that this is a lot.
36:19
A lot of cars, a lot of flowers, a vast area.
36:23
I walked for five minutes.
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I don't think I went in every room.
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If they were with us right now in the van, what do you think they would say about it?
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My mother just, you know, I think my mother enjoyed it.
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I think, you know, I was dyslexic.
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So I was a kid who was a terrible student.
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And I would hear those describe, what are you going to do with Jamie?
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What's going to happen with him?
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You know, because my brother was smart.
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You know, I was the one, you know, so, you know, so, yeah.
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I think my mother got a kick out of it because everybody else is so serious.
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You know, you know, I was, I was probably the favorite.
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I think it's fair to say.
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Please subscribe to Roads of Success because the road has obviously taken a horrible detour to this point.
37:10
So only you can get it back on the proper route.
37:13
It clearly means a lot as well that you were able to achieve what you have whilst being dyslexic.
37:19
Do you think it's good that kids these days have a little bit more opportunity
37:22
or do you think they're molly-cuddled a little bit too much?
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No, I think every generation is the same.
37:27
Nothing makes me laugh is if since the birth of Christ to the day before us, everything was great.
37:34
And this generation, you know, when I was a kid, they were blown up a bank of America
37:39
building students were burning down college campuses.
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And, you know, whenever you think it's bad, you know, I enjoy something that's horrible in America is the price of college.
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So I like to try and give out scholarships when I can.
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You know, he'd come see me and I said, what do you want?
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I want to go to UMass.
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He said, yeah, but I don't have any money.
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You can't afford it.
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So I'm going to go to a little community college now.
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So I thought, well, I call up his mom searching to think on some creepy guy.
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I said, do you mind if I pay for his college?
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So I'll pay for his college.
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So they pay for the college.
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So I pay for his college.
38:28
And the end of the first year comes.
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He calls me up and he goes, Miss Leno, I want to thank you.
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And I say, don't worry about it.
38:35
You know, we got three more years to go.
38:37
He goes, that's what I talked to you about.
38:38
He goes, you know, when he gave me, I worked really hard and I got a scholarship.
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I don't need your money anymore.
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It still breaks me up to this.
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I mean, I go, it just renews your faith.
38:51
You know, you think, oh, these kids are screwed up.
38:54
He had a free ride for four years.
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I mean, he could have taken the money, but he didn't.
38:59
He worked hard because he didn't want to take the money, but he had to because his family was poor and he didn't have any money.
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And, but he worked hard.
39:09
He impressed the school and they gave him a three year, the next three years and a full scholarship.
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I was like, oh, I said, well, that's pretty good.
39:16
You know, because I mean, I hear somebody's on crack and somebody else is smashing up Lamborghini.
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I know whatever it might be.
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So when you see those things and hear those things,
39:25
they kind of renew your faith.
39:27
So you speak about that lad was so much like passion and like it restored your faith in humanity a little bit.
39:33
So was it sometimes hard to have guests on your show that could have been huge global celebrities?
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But let's say that you may not have had the same level of love for.
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I didn't have the level.
39:44
First of all, I try not to have everybody on it.
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I try to be fair to everybody.
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I don't have to like them.
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But, but, you know, it's just a Charlie Sheen is a good friend of mine.
39:56
Now, I don't want to be Charlie, but Charlie amuses me.
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One day I get a call.
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Charlie's on that day.
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I'm not Charlie in yet.
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It's Charlie Sheen.
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Listen, I'm in a limo.
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We get T-Bonded in a second.
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I'm a little more caught fire.
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There's those kinds of.
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Listen, I think I'm going to make it.
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Stay where you are.
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Go get checked out.
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We'll get a comedian.
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We'll get somebody else.
40:28
We'll get somebody.
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Charlie, take care of it.
40:32
Jay, thanks so much for clicking on it.
40:33
Charlie got an accident.
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Now, I don't hear anything about this accident.
40:38
You know, Howard goes by, I got the TV on your local news.
40:42
Charlie, she gets in a limo, catches fire accident.
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I don't hear anything.
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I said, he got Joe's number, a little more driver.
40:56
I'm in front of the house.
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He hasn't come out yet.
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You didn't get T-Boned?
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So I called Charlie.
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What are you, four years old, like the giant bear?
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Yeah, T-Boned or the fire.
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You don't think people are going to, a T-Bone gets, a limo gets T-Boned in an intersection.
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You don't think that's a story?
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I got, Charlie is fine.
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Just tell me you're high or you're stoned.
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Or another prostitute through your Mercedes off the cliff or whatever it is.
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You know, I told him the next night, it was a great story.
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It was so, it's so stupid.
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It's like a child going, there's a monster under the bed and it ate my cookie and
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or whatever it might be.
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You know, so, yeah, so that's, yeah, that's very fun.
41:45
You said to me earlier that you strive for contentment and not happiness.
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However, a comedian's job is to make people really happy.
41:53
Is it true that sometimes you go through these moments where you can have so much fun
41:57
and you're making an audience laugh so much and then have a little bit of a spiral off the back of it?
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Well, no, I, you know, I don't drink.
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I know how to drink in my life.
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No, I have no, I have no moral or religious reason not to do it.
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I just, it just doesn't interest me.
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I have a sense that I could drive.
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I was a designated driver.
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I take all these high drunk idiots, you know, around because I was always the car guy.
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So, no, I mean, the time is, again, you, you just try not to talk.
42:35
You think the good with the beat.
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Don't believe the good stuff.
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Don't believe the bad stuff.
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I try to be pretty even keeled about it, but I do have friends of mine that spiral off
42:49
And I can't imagine what that's like, but I'm not one of those people now.
42:53
So you're hosting one of the biggest TV shows in America.
42:58
But with the, in the back of your head, it always there to start Jay Leno's garage.
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Like you wanted to turn that in front of the camera to do stuff with cars.
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No, it just, it seemed like YouTube was just coming into widespread use.
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It seemed like it might be a fun thing to do.
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I just didn't think I would have the time or enough product to do it every week.
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I mean, to me, I realize with YouTube, it's about content.
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If you're not on every week, don't bother because then people will watch it.
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But then it'll come back again.
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Then you got to start all over again.
43:36
We've never done a rerun or anything, but if you're on every, if you're on every
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week, people will just check in by nature just to see what you're doing, you know.
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So that kind of worried me when we started it.
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But it was always, again, I did it for free.
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There was no salary, any money came in, I paid the crew.
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So this way I'm not disappointed if it doesn't work out.
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I'm not losing a fortune because I'm doing it for free anyway.
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I'm not a vacation guy.
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For any spare time I have, I would donate to doing the YouTube show.
44:15
It was something I'd like to do.
44:17
I like talking about cars and I'd say, let's see if people are interested in it.
44:20
So we've got about four million subscribers now.
44:23
So that's pretty good.
44:25
When you started putting out those videos, was it all from your brain, all your own ideas?
44:30
And like, do you think that by starting the YouTube channel and making the videos,
44:36
that it's made your overall experience that you have with cars and the car community even better?
44:41
Well, if you're not an interesting person, do something interesting.
44:45
It makes you interesting.
44:47
I'm not a sports guy.
44:49
I can't really sit down and talk football or soccer or tennis or hockey.
44:53
I just don't have any interest in those things.
44:55
I mean, F1 I like a lot.
44:57
So I thought, well, what's going to make me interesting?
45:00
Well, my hobby is cars and a lot of people I know seem to like that.
45:05
So let's make YouTube about that.
45:07
I would say more people now know me from the YouTube show, especially younger people,
45:12
because if you're like 25 now, you were like 12 when I left my TV.
45:17
So you have no idea who I am and I don't expect people.
45:20
I'm not going to do, oh, they didn't know me.
45:23
I'm not one of those people.
45:26
But when I meet young people now, they know me from the movie cars or something like that.
45:33
But it's usually automatically related.
45:35
Do you think it's, though, enriched your experience in these cars?
45:38
Because when you open yourself up in front of a camera and put your passion on camera,
45:42
you tend to get opportunities to drive all the latest and greatest stuff that you might not even own
45:47
and get invited to do this and that.
45:49
Were you always happy that you did the channel because you've got to do so much stuff around it?
45:53
I don't pretend to be a race car driver.
45:55
I always marvel at Chris Harrison.
45:58
These guys are unbelievable.
46:00
But to me, I'm not good enough to make that car do what it's capable of.
46:04
That's why it keeps me entertained, you know.
46:06
One of my favorite videos of recent, because you've just drove the new Mustang.
46:11
Have you seen the video that Chris...
46:13
I saw that, yeah, and Max did.
46:16
That has to be for me one of the most incredible videos.
46:19
We've got the car over there.
46:21
Well, not that one.
46:22
But one of those cars.
46:24
I got car number 12.
46:27
When do you stop collecting, James?
46:29
How many cars and bikes have you currently got in this production?
46:32
You sound like my wife.
46:34
Well, there's about 214 cars and 168 motorcycles.
46:41
And what does it take to keep them all sat here perfect,
46:44
on charge, all clean in an amazing environment?
46:47
You've got like a team here to run this?
46:49
No, it's only about four or five guys.
46:51
But this is California.
46:53
There's no humidity.
46:55
Your car doesn't sit, and it has a crankcase full of water
46:58
from humidity going up and down and all that kind of thing.
47:02
So if I do one oil change a day, it takes 18 months.
47:08
So I try to do one oil change a day,
47:10
and it takes me 18 months to come around again
47:13
to the front of the line.
47:18
It's what I like to do.
47:19
I like to keep busy.
47:22
I probably would have done well in the military
47:25
if I had been drafted, because I take order as well,
47:29
and I'm good at simple repetitive tasks.
47:32
Well, you're clearly good at collecting McLarens.
47:35
We've got four incredible ones behind us,
47:37
from the SLR to the F1, the 12C, the P1.
47:40
There's a whole area.
47:44
You've got the W1 coming, which we'll talk about.
47:46
There's a Carrera GT over there.
47:47
That's one of my favorite cars, and you're behind us.
47:50
I'm a huge Lamborghini guy.
47:52
But there is one brand of Supercar that isn't in this building.
47:55
And I want to talk to you about it,
47:57
because why have you never found yourself in a Ferrari?
48:00
Well, I just, you know, a Ferrari is a bit different company.
48:03
It's much different now.
48:05
When I was a young man, if you went into a Ferrari dealership,
48:09
you couldn't buy the GTO or whatever model you wanted.
48:14
You had to buy two Mondials first and, you know,
48:17
put a swing over it.
48:20
It didn't interest me.
48:22
I didn't like the idea that I had to put Italian air in the tire.
48:25
It's not that way anymore, because there's so much competition.
48:31
But there was a certain elite feeling to it.
48:37
You know, you go to the club meetings
48:39
and guys got the turtleneck with the black turtleneck
48:43
with the big medallions.
48:44
They see these Lambo guys sometimes with that, you know.
48:47
And it just always makes me laugh.
48:49
You know, when I bought, I've told the ceremony many times,
48:53
when I bought my McLaren, they said,
48:56
do you want carbon fiber brakes?
48:58
They go, you know, you've got to track it?
49:02
You don't need them.
49:03
They're just as good.
49:06
You know, and then I had it.
49:08
I had it a couple of months.
49:09
And they said, there's an upgrade to 600 and some odd horsepower.
49:14
I said, how much is that?
49:19
I mean, I felt like a customer when I bought my Courage ET.
49:24
The first, I bought the clutch first,
49:26
because I heard about the clutch.
49:27
Six inches carbon fiber.
49:29
I said, well, I bought a clutch.
49:31
We took it apart and all the guys were amazed at it.
49:35
The clutch is this good.
49:36
The car has got it amazed.
49:37
So that's probably a little car good.
49:38
They brought one here.
49:39
We put it up on the lift.
49:41
The mechanic showed us how to work on it.
49:43
Something I don't think I would have gotten,
49:45
at least at the time, from a Ferrari dealership,
49:47
because they don't need my business.
49:49
I like people who need my business.
49:51
I like to be helpful to you.
49:53
And you can be, oh, okay, great.
49:55
Like when they're claring, I was kind of in the ground floor.
49:57
I got one of the very first MP412Cs,
50:00
a very clever name in the MP412C.
50:02
He just rolls off the tongue.
50:04
You know, and I love that thing.
50:08
And, you know, I would do videos and do things.
50:11
And McLaren would say, oh, thank you so much for helping us publicize the car.
50:17
You go to Pebble Beach.
50:18
You're invited to the McLaren tent.
50:21
And of course, by this time, now they've sort of earned their medals,
50:27
You know, the P1 had come out.
50:29
And I bought one of the first one of those.
50:32
And I just, I like the company.
50:34
I know everybody involved in the company.
50:36
And they have good customer service.
50:38
I'm sure some of you are like, David Solano, I hadn't,
50:41
it's not been my experience.
50:43
So with so many cars in the collection,
50:45
you mentioned that you're getting a W1 coming soon.
50:47
Does that still make you, like, as giddy as a school kid,
50:50
like thinking about my car tow?
50:54
Is that coming soon?
50:56
Well, when it's probably a year away, you know, yeah.
51:01
But you see, I'm in Hollywood.
51:03
All of this is still cheaper than hookers and cocaine.
51:08
You should have recommended the cost to Charlie.
51:12
You know, I mean, Charlie always used to make me laugh.
51:15
I did a joke about Charlie Sheen.
51:17
He went through $200 million.
51:20
He had $200 million.
51:23
He spent it on gambling, women, drugs,
51:27
and the rest of the money, he just wasted.
51:29
That's what was my favorite joke.
51:31
It just made me laugh.
51:33
And yeah, I love Charlie.
51:36
When I tell a story, I don't say to be mean to Charlie.
51:39
It just makes me laugh.
51:41
Because he's so childlike, you know,
51:44
the idea that the limo caught fire on the highway.
51:50
Like, there wouldn't be cameras and helicopters
51:52
filming this, you know.
51:54
The movie star, they would have closed down the freeway
51:59
for an accident like that.
52:01
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52:02
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52:04
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53:02
But you talk about the fact that Charlie
53:04
wasn't in a car crash.
53:06
But if you're going to do stuff with cars,
53:08
you are going to end up potentially getting injured by them.
53:10
In 2022, I think it was your last,
53:13
maybe big injury, am I right?
53:15
Which is you were in here and did something.
53:18
Yeah, my face got a fire.
53:20
And then, yeah, boom,
53:23
I got a face full of gasoline and a spark jump.
53:26
And that took that out.
53:29
And then I got my face fixed.
53:31
And then two months later,
53:33
I'm riding that Indian motorcycle.
53:35
And the guy has a wire across the road
53:37
with no flag on it.
53:39
And the sun is on my eyes.
53:41
And boom, that tore my face.
53:42
So I had to call my face guy,
53:43
I need another face.
53:45
Remember the face you gave me?
53:46
You did a great job,
53:47
but I need another one.
53:48
So I had to go get another face.
53:50
But it worked out okay.
53:51
You can't see this.
53:52
But did any of that stuff ever like shit you up?
53:55
Like did you ever just think like,
53:56
oh, it might be time to calm it down a little bit now.
53:59
Like I've had two faces.
54:00
Well, the nice thing about being a guy over 40 is
54:04
you don't learn from your mistakes.
54:06
You know, that's a great thing.
54:08
They're always here.
54:09
They can teach an old dog new tricks.
54:11
The greatest thing ever, you know.
54:14
No, you don't learn from me.
54:16
You don't learn from me.
54:18
I mean, I guess you learn something, but yeah.
54:20
You can only appreciate the happy times
54:23
and the content times and everything you've got
54:25
when you go through periods of time
54:29
and where there's periods that are really tough.
54:31
What do you think in your journey to where you are now
54:34
has been one of the toughest things you've had to overcome?
54:38
Well, there's a lot of things I suppose.
54:43
You know, my wife has got Alzheimer's and dementia.
54:47
That's a little tricky.
54:50
But you know, okay, you've gotten all this stuff.
54:54
Let's go back to being a good husband.
54:56
Let's do what you're supposed to do.
54:58
I'm very proud of the fact that I didn't run off
55:00
with a cashier from the mini-mart
55:02
or any of that kind of nonsense, you know.
55:04
I would see my friends do that kind of stuff
55:06
and I'd go, I don't want to be that guy.
55:08
You know, I've never really been tested.
55:14
They were in Vietnam.
55:15
They've been in Afghanistan.
55:17
They get tested or they have some horrible disease
55:24
I never had any of those.
55:26
And I consider the Alzheimer's and the my wife has
55:32
Am I going to be a good husband here?
55:34
And you know, I enjoy it.
55:35
I enjoy taking care of her.
55:37
You know, you try to find the humor in it.
55:39
You know, my wife is a big civil rights,
55:43
women's rights person.
55:45
Even got a Nobel Peace Prize nomination.
55:48
So one day we're watching...
55:51
Do you remember the TV show Hawaii 50?
55:54
Well, because we're Alzheimer's,
55:56
we can't really watch anything that's like a five-part drama
55:59
because she forgets...
56:01
I didn't see that last night.
56:03
So we watch all TV shows.
56:05
So I'm watching Hawaii 50 in the 60s
56:09
when my wife's just sitting there.
56:11
And McGarrett, Steve, the other guy,
56:13
every woman is honey.
56:17
Sweetie, come over here.
56:18
Honey, let me ask you a question.
56:19
Everybody's honey sweetie.
56:20
So watching this episode,
56:21
we're Stanley Holloway, the actor,
56:23
gets kidnapped by the red Chinese.
56:27
And he's a genetic scientist.
56:31
We're watching this.
56:32
So McGarrett goes to see his daughter,
56:36
And he says to her,
56:38
what kind of genetic engineering did your dad do?
56:42
well, I'm just a woman.
56:44
I don't understand such things.
56:48
and she's getting pissed,
56:50
screaming, fuck you, it's TV.
56:53
I said, oh, she's still got the fire, you know?
56:56
I mean, the Alzheimer's,
56:57
but still, she still gets mad enough.
57:01
And you know, you have those little victories.
57:03
And now that's the fun part for me,
57:05
just to see her get all worked out.
57:07
It really made me laugh.
57:10
He's sweetie, honey.
57:13
Do you think it's important to sometimes
57:15
laugh in those moments as well?
57:19
I laugh when mom was when you're not supposed to laugh.
57:21
Yeah, so yeah, it is.
57:23
Yes, it's really important because that's...
57:26
that's what life is.
57:28
It makes it worthwhile.
57:30
Do you think cars are one of the best methods
57:34
Well, you know, they used to be a saying,
57:37
the heart is healthiest when the head
57:39
and the hands work together.
57:40
So during the day, I work on cars or motorcycles.
57:42
I was working on that chassis when you came in.
57:44
And at night, I brought and I tell jokes.
57:47
And I realized, boy, if I had been working
57:49
with my hands all day, I would have made
57:51
80 bucks for taking out a transmission.
57:53
But if I just stand here and talk,
57:55
who would get like bags with 20s in them?
57:57
Yeah, that's pretty good.
57:59
So, yeah, it makes you appreciate.
58:01
Like I said, I always meet...
58:03
I'll tell you, I had a big movie star.
58:05
I'm not going to tell you who he is.
58:07
He was on the Tonight Show once.
58:09
And during this commercial break,
58:11
he said, hey, you know cars.
58:13
I'm going to get sports cars, which I get.
58:15
And I said, well, you know, this new Ferrari
58:18
And he said to me, yeah, but everybody has a Ferrari.
58:22
I said, okay, first of all,
58:24
my hand over the mic, everybody does not
58:27
If you say everybody has a Ferrari,
58:29
this audience will take you outside.
58:32
They will beat you to death.
58:35
And he started to laugh.
58:36
I said, you know, stupid.
58:37
That sounds everybody.
58:39
I know people that have never seen a Ferrari.
58:42
They would love to see a Ferrari.
58:44
And he actually started to laugh
58:45
because you know how stupid it sounds.
58:47
But I mean, but that's what happens
58:48
when you live here.
58:49
You get this idea of, oh, you know,
58:51
like flying by private jet.
58:52
Who are these other people on the plane?
58:54
Well, this is what normal flying is like.
58:56
You don't have your own plane.
58:58
So that's, that's one of what I travel.
59:00
I travel by myself because nothing funny happens
59:03
if you have a entourage
59:05
or you have people carrying your bags.
59:07
There's nothing funny about that.
59:11
So that's what I do when I travel.
59:12
I try to keep it as basic as possible
59:14
and try to have experiences
59:16
that real people have.
59:17
And it's very funny.
59:18
And you're still traveling and doing
59:20
as many shows and opportunities
59:21
that come your way to about
59:23
175, 200 or something shows a year.
59:25
Something like that.
59:27
So you don't think it's important
59:28
to slow down, enjoy the cars.
59:30
That's when you have your stroke.
59:32
When you have your stroke, you can relax.
59:35
When my face is on fire,
59:37
I was down for like two weeks.
59:39
I said, all right, that's enough time.
59:43
And you were back in the garage.
59:47
Talk to me about the buildings
59:49
and the collection behind us
59:50
because it's appeared in obviously
59:51
so many of your videos.
59:53
They normally start right in this spot
59:56
Whatever it is that you're driving
59:57
and how long has it taken you
59:59
to curate and put everything together
00:02
And well, there's no,
00:04
all these pictures we hand paint,
00:06
they're not posters.
00:08
We hand paint them all.
00:10
When something's done, it's done.
00:12
It's like, you know,
00:13
like I tell the guys,
00:15
there's only one asshole customer.
00:17
It's not like a shop where you have people.
00:21
You know, something's not ready.
00:23
It's not like I don't have anything else
00:26
You know, so it's fine.
00:28
It's a very low stress place to work.
00:37
Right at the entrance by the J,
00:38
I think it was Jay Leno's car care product.
00:41
Through the entrance.
00:42
I remember that clearly.
00:43
Do you try and get yourself
00:44
to as many of those,
00:46
And do you enjoy it?
00:48
I feel like I'm targeting people.
00:49
Because what I find fascinating about you
00:51
is you've had the opportunity
00:52
to interview so many incredible celebrities
00:55
and talk about that guy.
00:56
It's kind of what I was getting at earlier
00:57
with that Ferrari story.
00:59
Like people live in different realities,
01:01
And it's not normal
01:03
to be able to curate
01:05
and have all the things
01:06
that you've managed to put together.
01:07
But it's not always,
01:08
everyone doesn't always stay
01:10
so humble and so level headed.
01:12
Well, and I think the magic in you
01:14
from many people that sit opposite me
01:17
I don't think you necessarily even appreciate
01:19
how amazing it is to stay that level.
01:22
Well, that's right.
01:24
my mom was a Scottish.
01:27
Oh, he started with his name.
01:29
You know, it just always made me laugh.
01:31
Have you ever struggled to deal
01:32
with the fame of it all?
01:35
First of all, okay.
01:37
When you're famous,
01:39
And they say money can't buy happiness.
01:48
I find money just makes you
01:50
more of what you are.
01:52
I know people are horrible people.
01:54
They got rich and they became worse people.
01:57
many people are nice people.
01:58
They got rich and they became nicer.
02:01
I think wealth or fame or anything,
02:03
it just exaggerates what traits
02:07
And I think that that's pretty much,
02:12
I don't pretend, you know,
02:13
like I'm with my wife with her
02:16
Alzheimer's and dementia and all that.
02:19
I can afford to take care of her.
02:21
I don't know what people do who are nurses
02:24
or policemen or teachers.
02:27
I think they work all day
02:28
and then they go home
02:29
and they have to change a parent
02:31
or, you know, do all this.
02:33
I don't, you know, I mean, I do it,
02:35
but I can afford to do it.
02:37
I can afford to have people during the day.
02:40
So I don't bitch and moan about it.
02:42
It's not a problem for me.
02:44
So, yeah, I'm always amazed.
02:50
I always have that in the back of my mind.
02:53
it sounds like almost your therapy going to the show
02:55
is meeting all these kinds of people
02:57
and just absorbing yourself.
03:00
Reality is a very good therapy.
03:02
don't even see that.
03:05
do you have a favorite saying?
03:12
Well, a lot of favorite things.
03:14
Mark Twain once said,
03:18
I thought that was pretty funny.
03:22
I can't think of what it would be right now.
03:27
No, I can't say I have a favorite,
03:35
what do you want your legacy to be?
03:41
I think it's hilarious.
03:43
I did at college a couple of years ago.
03:54
So that's pretty good.
03:57
They said it all about six years ago.
04:02
No, he was, he was dead.
04:04
What are you talking about?
04:07
Yeah, Elvis Costello.
04:09
Oh, I thought he meant Elvis Presley.
04:18
The name meant nothing to them.
04:20
I mean, they knew it,
04:23
the only Elvis they knew was Elvis,
04:25
was Elvis Costello.
04:27
And you go, okay, there's your legacy.
04:29
Okay, that's Elvis Presley.
04:30
Okay, these people have really forgotten who he is.
04:33
You know, so I know,
04:35
I don't worry about later.
04:36
Enjoy yourself while you're here.
04:38
The conceit of, you know,
04:41
I've got to make sure people know
04:43
that I did all this.
04:45
I've been on the front cover of the magazine.
04:47
Your mother and tell you to stop.
04:48
Yeah, yeah, that seems very funny to me.
04:50
I did, you know, while you enjoy your life,
04:54
you know, the greatest book ever written
04:56
is The Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.
04:58
He doesn't change his life through religion
05:01
or prayer or hard work.
05:04
It's just, if you want to be a good person,
05:08
Do it, go back and live the life you're living,
05:11
and everything else will take care of itself, you know.
05:13
And I always thought that was such a seminal book
05:17
because especially England had such a class system, you know.
05:20
And here's a guy, rich man,
05:22
and he changed his life
05:26
not through sacrifice
05:31
just seeing what could happen, you know.
05:35
I think it's the greatest book ever,
05:38
Probably changed more a lot.
05:39
I think it changes many lives in the Bible,
05:42
and it's a story that's told in every religion now
05:45
in a different form,
05:46
but it's basically The Christmas Carol, you know.
05:48
It's a great book, it's a great book.
05:50
Well, Jay, we've been going for just over an hour now.
05:54
We've spoke about all the cars behind us.
05:57
Well, some of the cars behind us.
05:58
No, I was calling us.
05:59
214 cars registered.
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We spoke about three.
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We talked about three cars.
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Is there any cars you'd love to talk about?
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No, no, I like them all.
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You know, the fun part to me is the story.
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Like I have a Hudson Hornet down there.
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Now I have a 51 Hudson Hornet,
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and I get a call from this woman, 94 years old.
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Her and her husband bought a brand new 1951 Hornet.
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They bought it in New Jersey.
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They drove to California.
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He bought a gas station.
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They raised two children.
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The car has been in the garage with four flat tires.
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Well, I come look at it.
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I go, well, you know, I have one.
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All right, so I go out to look at it.
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And it looks very nice.
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You know, it's well maintained.
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And she's, oh, but you're buying it and freezing.
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All right, so I bought it.
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And now I have to buy it, you know.
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I start work on it.
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It takes me about two years to get it restored.
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Let me call her up and see if she's still alive.
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And she's still alive.
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I said, you want to go for a ride?
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Oh, can I bring the kids?
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Well, the kids are 74 and 72.
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So I drive out to her house and the two kids have got her blindfolded.
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And she's touching the car.
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I take the blindfold off and she starts crying.
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Let's go for a ride.
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So we get in the car and she puts the two kids in the background.
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So we're driving along and she's talking about coming out here from the
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Jersey and crossing America back in the late 40s and early 50s rather.
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Meanwhile, the two kids start poking each other.
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She goes, hey, I told you, and she stopped to whack in the crap out of
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I mean, the three of them are like, Mr. Lennon was nice enough to take
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a ride and you kids can't behave for two minutes.
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And she's just whacking them in the head.
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And the three of them are laughing so hard.
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And I said, you know, this is what it's about.
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I mean, it was like the funniest.
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It was like the greatest day.
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She lives to be 106.
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But just to see her slapping a 74-year-old guy in the head for poking
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I mean, it's just hilarious.
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And the kids got, yeah, it was just very funny.
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It was just very funny.
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And you know, whenever I drive that car, it makes me smile because I
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just think of her reaching over and not like that.
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I mean, she's whacking the crap out of them.
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It'll be very funny.
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So that's what I mean.
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So every car here has some sort of story for the most part.
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Do you think it's ever been hard when you're that nice to not be
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taking advantage of in the position that you've come to be in?
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You take advantage all the time.
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Does anything piss you off?
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Look, I mean, sometimes I'm disappointed in people and then
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you meet someone else who reaffirms your faith again.
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So yeah, I mean, I'm not naive to walk through bumping into walls.
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But I mean, you try to, I've been very fortunate.
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I've been very lucky.
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Things have paid off well.
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I try to believe in people.
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It doesn't always come true.
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But for the most part, it does.
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It's 51% on this side.
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And that's all it has to be, you know?
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Have I been robbed?
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Yeah, have I gone to my throat?
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I've had all those things.
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Yeah, but that's going to happen.
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Have I had a gun to your right?
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To my throat, not a gun.
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And what the hell happened there?
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I got picked up by a gang of guys and got robbed.
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Is that, that's normal here then?
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Well, this was embossed.
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See, that was another thing because that was select.
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So I go to the police station to report it.
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And this cop says to me, you want to get your money back?
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Should I have to get your money back?
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I said, is it legal?
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Come sit and fill suitcase.
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I said, how am I going to get money back?
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By selling Echo Silverware.
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And he sets up this little thing.
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He's got a record that's playing.
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Echo Silverware, the finest silverware I've made.
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And you can make money in commission base.
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You know, I'm thinking, okay.
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This is like hilarious.
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I thought he was going to find out who the guys are
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and get my money back.
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But his thing was to sell me.
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And I listened to his whole spiel.
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I mean, it was just so hilariously stupid.
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It was just so funny.
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It just made me laugh.
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It just, that wouldn't have happened had I not been robbed.
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That's what I mean.
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You try to find the humor.
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You know, one day I come down from my apartment.
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And where I lived, it was old boss.
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He had like a little street, not really for cars,
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but big enough for cars.
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And he had some grassy area.
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And then he had the main road.
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So he had like a service room.
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So one day with my girlfriend, I pull up
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and I see your refrigerator out on the street.
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It's someone that's abandoned, you know,
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for the pickup for the truck.
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And I go, you know, he's supposed to break the door
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because, you know, kids could crawl on the side.
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So I go up, I get my hammer.
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I smash the crap out of it.
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That's not going to shut us.
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My girlfriend, I come down and see the guy goes,
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hey, you guys over here?
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Somebody smashed our refrigerator.
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What are you talking about?
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We're just moving in.
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Maybe somebody thought you threw it away.
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It's a brand new refrigerator.
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Why would we throw it away?
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I'm like, oh, somebody might have,
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who's stupid enough to do that?
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I don't know who's stupid.
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My girlfriend's like, I'm thinking,
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don't let the guy see my girlfriend.
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Yeah, just kill me.
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I mean, that's what I mean.
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You're trying to, if you can't see the humor
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in those situations, yeah.
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Do you ever see the humor in an electric car?
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Because we're surrounded by machines.
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There was one over there that you told me earlier,
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this is going to test if I've got this right now,
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had a 27-liter engine in it.
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The Merlin aircraft, yeah.
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When you've got vehicles with that many liters
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and that much petroleum put in happiness
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through your veins when you put your hands on the wheel,
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how have you adopted to the world of electric cars?
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I mean, there are people who don't like cars.
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I mean, people don't seem to understand
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if you want to save the petrol car by an electric,
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because then there'll be few and far between
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and they'll be seen as pleasant diversions
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as opposed to, you know,
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someone's going to poison the entire atmosphere.
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I mean, first of all, you're going to have
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petrol cars for at least another 100 years in some form.
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The logic being you still have cars
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from the turn of the last century,
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you know, when you have the Bright London and Brighton run.
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Those are all pre-1904 cars.
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You're still driving your full Model T.
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Yeah, I'm still driving my Ford Model T.
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But I use my electric car, so, I mean,
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to sit on the freeway with a 426 Hemi polluting
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and getting five miles per gallon seems ridiculous.
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So I use my electric vehicles during the week
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and then I use my gas car.
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So, no, I'm a big proponent of it.
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Is there anyone that you love,
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that you look up to as like an automotive visionary
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that you think has changed the space?
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Well, certainly Elon.
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I mean, did it break your heart when he went political?
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Well, it didn't break my heart,
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but it's just like, I mean, yeah, it just seems...
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That's a perfect example of what I was talking about before.
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You know, people have the ability,
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but something changes, you know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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We'll see if he comes around.
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Because there's other great people,
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Mate Remac with the Remac.
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I'd absolutely love to have him on the podcast.
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There are people doing such incredible things.
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Is there anyone that you've held a candle like
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you look up to those kind of guys?
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Because people along the journey...
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Well, the ones that, to me, are the engineers, really.
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There are a lot of people behind the scenes.
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Adrian Neuys in Tesla.
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Yeah, Adrian Neuys.
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Yeah, those kind of guys.
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People who people don't really know what it is they do.
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You know, Bugatti was great,
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but he had great people working for him.
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Edison had people working.
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You know, they didn't like to give credit.
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You know, Bugatti didn't like to give credit.
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Neither did Henry Ford.
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He had a guy named Child Harold Wills,
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who was his partner.
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They split everything 50%,
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but they finally had a fight
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because he invented vanadium steel.
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He invented the Ford logo, the blue oval.
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He invented the planetary transmission for the Model T.
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He invented the magnetos.
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But Henry Ford was like,
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oh, I thought this up one day,
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but he, you know, threw rocks at each other
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But yeah, that's...
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So, mostly behind the scene, the engineers, yeah.
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There's a McLaren F1 owner,
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one of the greatest cars of all time.
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What do you think of the new Gorton Murray cars?
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Oh, the T50 is great.
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Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Gorton Murray.
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Yes, I have Gorton Murray's first car here,
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the Rocket, which is, to me,
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is one of the all-time great.
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775 pounds, 147 horsepower,
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12 speeds, 6 high, 6 low.
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Yeah, it's a fabulous car.
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I think the T50 is wonderful.
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Have you had a chance to drive it?
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Oh, I hadn't driven it.
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I'd been in it with Dario Francescetti.
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We went for a ride in it.
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Yeah, it's a great car,
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but you can't get them here in California.
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I would have bought one,
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but you can't get them certified.
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So is there one car on that subject,
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other than the T50,
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that you haven't been able to bring to the collection
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that you'd love to over the years?
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You know, I'm very happy with everything I have.
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What did I know you was going to say that?
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Well, because, you know,
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if you're happy with what you have,
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just make sure you have enough.
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That's what I like.
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Yeah, I'm very happy with what I have.
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I mean, there are other cars,
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well, that'd be kind of cool.
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But I don't really need the W1.
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I mean, the P1 or the F1,
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certainly I can barely get them
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to do what they're capable of.
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and when you drive the F1,
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you realize how old it is.
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Even carbon fiber brakes
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hadn't been invented yet
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when that came out.
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It's an old car now, you know.
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Yeah, but it's still great.
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Well, Jay, we've been in the van
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for about an hour now.
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It's like your story.
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It's like your story
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and how you got to where you are today.
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I don't think I've had anyone else
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with this level of humility.
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So what's there in the van?
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So thank you so much.
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It's been a pleasure meeting.
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It's a pleasure meeting.
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It's been a pleasure meeting.
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Enjoy being in the van.