Just Give Nathan Merz the Mic: 997 Turbo, Barn Finds, 928s, & upcoming PCA adventures

Welcome to the Porsche Club Insider, your one stop for all things Porsche and PCA.

Here's your host, Vu Gwin, and the Insider crew.

Welcome everyone to Episode 209.

We are actually at the Porsche Training and Distribution Center in Eastern Pennsylvania

preparing for this weekend's festivities known as Tech Tactics East.

What happens if we talk during the intro?

I don't think our microphones are actually on just yet.

He keeps us on mic.

I kind of kept on telling a story about Farmville.

I can tell it's going to be one of those podcasts to keep these two squirrels attention.

The title says it all, what is on Nathan's MERS mind?

I don't think I've ever had a looser agenda, but I know people are going to tune in to listen to

the crazy thoughts that you have in your head.

My therapist was booked up this week.

Normally these thoughts that I would get out with her, I'm going to get out with the two of you

and the rest of the audience.

Well Manny, thank you for setting all this up in terms of the agenda.

Thank you to Damon for the setup of the controls.

You all can't see it, but there is a lot of wires and machines.

What he uses at the office has been transported here so that we could do it on location.

Of course, we have Nathan MERS, our dear friend, PCA valuation expert, tech committee,

Columbia Valley luxury cars owner, and just the Porsche extraordinaire.

Well, you forgot the most important title.

I am Vu's brother.

Yes, that's true.

That is true.

We are family.

We often do things separately, but when we come together, we find out we did the same thing at the same time.

It's a little embarrassing.

It's a little crazy.

All right, before we get into his crazy mind, let's thank our presenting sponsor, Pirelli,

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All right, so Mr. Merz, I see that there's three categories.

Actually two.

Is it two?

The bottom two on the list.

I thought I might just go two insane if we start with that first bullet point.

So how you been, actually?

I've been really good.

Really, really good.

I'm here in beautiful Eastern Pennsylvania.

I spent the last night in the city with my wife Susie, so we went and caught Hamilton on Broadway, which was awesome.

So it's not snowing here.

What could be better?

In the city, meaning New York City.

New York City is.

Not Easton.

Not Easton, no.

Can I share a bit of information about a recent, I think it's a recent vehicle purchase, but probably the surprising thing that if I share this, most people wouldn't guess that you chose this car that happens to be tiptronic.

It's actually a Porsche exclusive clutch pedal delete package.

Option code.

Man, he's rolling his eyes over.

He did a what?

CPD.

He did a what?

He's the option code for those nerds.

CPD is the option.

Yes.

Sticker, but yes.

No, funny enough, 997 Turbo Coupe, and I got a call from a good friend of mine, and he said, hey, I got a car that's right up your alley.

He knows I like interesting built configurations.

And I said, well, what do you got?

And he says, well, it's a 997 Turbo Coupe.

997.

Yes.

Okay.

2008.

So I'm like, okay, I'm interested.

S or just a turbo.

Just a turbo.

They didn't have an S on the gen one.

And so I said, well, what color is it?

Because paint a sample.

And he says, color I know you like.

Zanzibar.

Technically Porsche calls it a red, but it's really a metallic orange.

So now you have my attention.

So I said, okay, my ears are perked.

And he says, not only that, it's leather to sample.

And I was like, leather to sample, what color is the interior?

He says ivory.

Oh.

And not only that, literally every inch of the car is in leather.

Black carpets, black deviate stitch, either black painted trims or leather.

Every inch of this car is leather.

And he says, it gets even better.

And I said, what's that?

2100 miles.

And I was like.

That's insane.

Just tell me where to send the money.

And he says, well, there is one pause.

And I said, what's that?

He says it has option code CDP under the hood.

R-C-P-D.

You know, I said, oh, clutch pedal delete.

It's a Tiptronic.

So my first initial reaction I'll admit was like, ooh, I'm not sure about that.

But then I saw the pictures and I was like, you know what, I'm in it to win it.

And I'm going to have to apologize to all my 997 Turbo Tiptronic fans.

I, even before it arrived to me, I literally called my tack and I said, hey, there's a

997 Turbo 6-speed on co-part.

We can buy it.

We can steal the parts.

We can swap it.

You're thinking of swapping it?

I was thinking about swapping it.

Then I went and drove it.

It's super compelling as a tip.

Oh.

Who are you?

I know you're going to disown me, but no, here's the weird thing is, again, some 997

Turbo owners may not want to hear this.

But in my opinion, a 997 Turbo is very much a GT car.

It's a fast but kind of lazy car.

It's effortless.

Ooh.

He just called the car lazy.

It is.

It's lazy fast.

You don't have to work the car.

It just makes big power everywhere.

Yeah, it's okay.

They're already going to hate me.

It's a chiptronic.

But somehow that melds well with the power delivery on the tip.

It doesn't lose boost between gears.

It's super smooth.

And unlike the next gen, you know, 997.2 got the first gen PDK.

And I remember when that came out, I was in love with it.

But now when I drive those first gen PDKs, they're a little bit clunky, particularly

at slow speeds and parking lots.

And this tip, it's a Mercedes-Benz unit.

Maybe they're engagement.

It's really smooth.

It's really easy.

You know, what I want is my only Porsche, probably not.

But it's now my only two-pedal Porsche sports car.

But as a touring car, it's got to be fantastic.

I remember.

It's great.

It's really great.

Porsche had a commercial with Hurley Haywood at Daytona driving the 997 Turbo with tiptronic.

Because I remember in my head, I'm going, wow, Porsche is really pushing tiptronic

if they got Hurley at Daytona.

But he was demonstrating how easy it was to drive and how smooth.

And he was, of course, shifting with the, I don't know.

Do you have the steering wheel?

I will say that's definitely a miss.

They've got the little buttons on the steering wheel, and they're really slow.

Like, you click it, and then maybe next week it'll shift.

It gives you a chance to change your mind.

But the good news is, actually, the car, in a little bit of driving I've done,

seems to kind of find the right gear at the right time.

It also doesn't do that Mercedes-Benz trick.

The old ones would always start in second gear, like the 96493 tips.

I still don't care for those cars.

It starts in first gear?

It starts in first gear.

Really?

And the tuning is quite good.

So I'm not just saying that because I'm trying to hype my own car.

I'm as shocked as our listeners are going to be about this.

So you can shame me if you want.

No, this is why I brought it up, because I think people should know.

All of a sudden, they have some pictures to throw in here.

People can see what this car looks like.

Are you saying the only testable tiptronic is a turbo?

I think it suits the character of the car.

The way it builds power.

If you're a lazy...

It's a lazy, fast car.

I know that sounds really crazy, but it's like, take a regular 997.

It's still very much a rev car.

You've got to keep the revs up if you want to be going at an appreciable clip.

Whereas the turbo, whether it's 2,000 RPM or 6,000 RPM, it powers there.

And so as a turbo, kind of a point-and-squirt car,

just fast two-lane touring, it's kind of compelling.

Now, back up to the interior.

It's pretty much white.

It is. It sounds like the craziest combo, and I know not everyone's going to like it,

but yeah, it's like out.

That's why you like it, because it is a crazy car.

Kind of a yellowy white.

The steering wheel, black at least.

Really white.

Even better, the dashboard is white.

Can you imagine the glare?

Oh, it's brutal.

But it is so good. It is so sexy.

I'll put photos up. You can see this thing.

And I'll admit, I'm going to add even more leather,

because when some leather is good, more is even better.

But yeah, it's got the leather visors, all the pillars are leather,

all the little seatbelt holders are leather, the dash ends are leather.

And then they did a nice job, because they spec the carpet in black,

and then all the stitching is in black.

And then they did the center stack, all in gloss black.

Do you know what that car is stickered at?

155.

Back in the day.

Wow.

How much of that was exclusive options?

About 30 grand.

That's not bad, because 30 grand won't get you a whole lot now.

No.

Back in the day, though.

It's a very unusual car, and I've loved Zanzibar.

I just, one of my favorite colors, very rarely chosen.

Believe it or not, it was standard.

Well, it wasn't standard.

It was a $3,200 option in 2002 and 2000.

Is this car going to go on tour?

Are we going to see this car anywhere?

Are we going to see it in Lake Placid?

No.

I've got new other plans.

We'll talk about that in a moment.

Oh, okay.

Lake Placid, but maybe works this year in Monterey.

Maybe I'll drive it.

Oh, okay.

That'd be cool.

It'd be a good car for that.

Or maybe parade Boise.

Assuming you can't wear jeans in this car?

This would be a no-jean zone.

You got to dress like Mr. Ork, all white.

Can you please be in an all-white outfit?

It's got to.

You know me, because people always accuse me

of being all about my fashion and my expensive past.

And not a painter's outfit.

No, no, no.

I think you need like a, how about a white,

no, no, a white tracksuit.

Oh.

A white tracksuit with like a can-go hat.

Oh, I think you're onto something.

I'm onto something.

You know, if I have a friend of mine who I work out with,

so if he's out here listening to this, he'll be mad,

but he showed up at a workout.

You know, I work out with a bunch of guys every week,

and he showed up with a full, gold-on-gold tracksuit.

No, no, not that.

And I kind of made him mad, because I said,

hey, somewhere in New Jersey a mobster is missing his tracksuit.

I'm not going to lie, but literally last night

I was trying on a tracksuit for an event that I'm going to.

Did I say we were brothers?

We're distant cousins.

See, look at this.

We were doing tracksuit things, and we didn't even know it,

and we were doing the same thing.

Where are you wearing said tracksuit?

It's my niece's first birthday,

and I forget the theme of it,

but it's kind of like hip-hop.

It's not a serious thing.

It's not about her.

It's her birthday, but it's not about her.

It's about the parents and the relatives having fun and partying.

That's what it's all about.

The hilarious part is someone will blow that picture up,

but it'll be on someone's mantle 25 years from now,

and they'll be like, who's the uncle without taste?

You're like, no, no, no.

You'll get to see it.

You're going to look like a living Oscar.

No, no, no. It's a pattern.

It's a pattern. It's a very lively pattern.

And of course, when I tried it on, my wife rolled her eyes.

And then when I told her there's a second one,

because it's not good enough to buy one.

You should have two.

It's not like the Louis Vuitton.

Oh, yeah, it's outrageous.

I mean, if you're going to do it, you're going to be outrageous.

Just like your car.

If you're going to have Zanzibar,

you might go have some crazy interior to go with it.

You're going to play my favorites and mix a lot of songs.

Swap, meet, Louis. It'd be perfect for that.

Did your wife see this car yet?

She has seen the car.

And she approves?

She is the best neutral face ever.

I'm always like, hey, I got a new car.

She's like, okay.

She's, what do you call it?

She sees this all the time.

It's like nothing new.

She's used to it.

If you tell her you have to approve her wardrobe before she gets in.

No, I do not.

You know what? Maybe you should get those service covers.

Oh, that would go over well.

I'm sheepskins.

No, no, not sheepskins.

Pretend it's the 70s.

Actually, that would be pretty funny.

I remember reading about a guy who had a 930

for setting up for the Manhattan Award.

He was running with in Manhattan.

And he made all his dates

get into step into a trash bag

inside the car

before they

couldn't put their feet on the carpet.

This individual, you notice he said girlfriends.

You didn't say like long-term.

He's still single, probably, yeah.

So this car was owned

by this, it's an original owner car.

Original owner car.

Several years. Only 20-some-hundred miles.

21-hundred miles.

So they didn't drive it.

Did you have to go through a lot?

No, actually, the car had a really good

service history from its local,

the originating selling dealer.

So it had been serviced on a regular basis.

So actually, I haven't even done it yet,

but I got all the service parts.

So I'm gonna give it a full major service

and just do all that.

Couple cans of white out.

Yeah, I did have to remove it.

It had original, clear film on it from 2008.

So we pulled that off.

How fun was that?

Actually, it came right off, because the car

hadn't really sat outside.

So it hasn't hardened.

So that came off pretty easily, although...

Were you nervous?

Well, I was a little nervous, because you never know.

Sometimes they'll cut on the car

or things like that.

So we didn't have any...

The car, it's got like two little chips,

and that's about the whole thing.

For our listeners, some of you out there

have these old PPF

in the front of your car

and probably have been debating

whether or not to take it off.

What was the process for you to take that off?

So do not go on any of the guides

online that basically tell you to use a heat gun.

We use steam in our show.

Steam is the trick.

I have to give credit where credit is due.

I did not do it.

A guy in my shop did, who's really, really, really good

with this.

Shout out to Jamar, did an amazing job.

Using steam, and then it's kind of

the right amount of pressure,

because what you're attempting to do is

loosen the adhesive on the back of the film,

but still keep it attached to the film

and not to the car.

So you get it up to the right temperature

and then you start a slow and even pull

and you kind of watch.

Because if you get it too hot,

then the adhesive kind of falls off the film

and sticks to the car, and if it's not

loose enough, you've got to apply too much pressure.

So there's kind of just a sweet spot.

So we're using kind of steam as we go.

And the key is getting it off early.

If your film is heavily yellowed

or heaven forbid it started to check,

you're in for a world of hurt.

Because it comes off in little pieces.

And tiny pieces, and you will want to commit

hairy carry, it is brutal.

So if you have film on there that's

going to get it off the car.

It's a service life factor.

Alright, so that was a little bit of a

left field. Sorry about that.

What was on your mind?

What are we going to talk about?

Well, we were actually going to talk about another one

of my cars, which I did ship out this week

with a seat cover on it.

So we talked seat cover with my white interior car.

This car does not have white interior,

but I shipped it with a seat cover.

To go to Amelia?

So one of the things about the PC ad I love

is I love our events that focus on driving

and being out there with people.

And so I know we try to be inclusive

and say you can come with a rental car.

And you certainly can, but it's way more fun

with your Porsche. And so I've never

been to works with my own Porsche.

And so I said, well, I'd really like to have

one of my Porsches at works.

And then I'm also signed up for the

Treffen event in South Carolina.

And so I thought, well,

I can kill two, maybe three birds with one stone.

So I thought, why don't I ship a car

to Charleston?

I found a really nice

kind of high end storage facility.

They're going to accept my car.

Susie and I are going to fly out end of the month.

And then we're going to drive the car down to Amelia.

We have it entered in works.

I'm going to use the car there.

And then we'll bring it back to Charleston.

We'll fly home for a few weeks. Then we'll fly back out.

We'll use it for Treffen.

We'll fly back home.

And then we'll fly out sometime in mid-June,

early June, and we'll drive it up

from Charleston up to Lake Placid.

This is the 928.

This is my 928.

Who I love this car.

Like, kind of like

I had a confessional about falling in low

with this Tiptronic 997 Turbo.

I'm so in low with my 920 yet I can't stand it.

Your video that you did with us on that car, people,

can you remind us what year is it?

It's a 79.

So it's an early car. It's hell-blow metallic.

Five-speed manual.

No spoilers.

But AC.

It has AC that works really, really well.

It's important if you're going to go to the Carolina

as you go to Florida.

Can you bring your wife along?

My wife likes riding in it. She feels safe and comfortable.

Because it reminds me, I thought about

taking my 356, shipping it out

for the Treffen at Mount Washington

we did last year.

And all was going along, swimming in the cars

ready to go. And Susie asked me

one important question. She says,

if we get in a car accident

in this car, are we

going to die?

She did not. She did.

And I said, well,

in marriage, honesty is important.

So I said, yes.

Yes.

And she goes, I don't feel so good

about that.

Especially the miles that you'd be covering in it, right?

Exactly. So we

took a 718 Boxter, you recall.

We had that at Mount Washington.

So the 928, she feels safe.

That's reasonable.

Very safe car.

And I got to tell you about the thing

I'm most excited about though.

So if you recall at Parade in Oklahoma

I think I may have told you

I brought a special package in the back of my truck.

I used my truck and trailer

to bring a car to Parade.

And I done a little research

and there was a gentleman that's in

just outside Oklahoma City

who's well known for doing 928 interiors.

And talking to him,

I said, hey, any chance

you could build me a Pasha interior?

I said, I don't want to give up my original interior

because I have a perfect all original interior.

Could you do that?

And he says, yes.

So I went out and actually brought him

my original seats to have him restitch them a little bit.

I could see his work in person.

So I commissioned him to build me a brand new set of

Pasha front seats, rear seats,

and interior panels.

Oh, so you can take your original,

out-store them, put this interior in,

enjoy it. Bingo.

Not be so worried about it.

So now I have blue-black Pasha interior

in my 928.

Did they offer that originally?

Yes, that was available.

Very rare in blue-black.

Most of them are the white-black.

Brown-white,

whatever you want to call it.

Blue-black.

And that material is still available.

You counted out of Germany.

Brian Wassinger's his name.

I'll give him a shout out. He did amazing work.

The quality of the work is stellar.

And the most important part, he had all the core parts.

Because again, I know that's silly,

but I just didn't want to give up my original parts.

Oh, that makes sense.

And so if I ever want to change it back,

there's a few hours of labor to do.

And so another shout out to one of our other vendors.

I actually shipped it with a reliable.

Bob Sellers, John Golumbowski,

if you're listening, thank you very much.

John was actually the one who booked it for us.

And he isn't inexpensive,

but the quality's good and I love this color.

White glove.

I love.

In fact, as you know,

my real other brother,

our other brother,

worked for me. Our brother.

And he's a little cheaper than I am.

So when he got the bid for how much it was going to cost,

yes, he said,

wow, that's a lot of money to spend to ship that car.

And I said, brother,

I love this car.

If it gets damaged or injured in some way,

I will literally die.

So what's my life worth?

Yes, I'm going to pay this amount.

No, I'm not.

You know what's so funny?

In all my years of being in a car business,

how many times have I ever shipped one of my personal cars?

Usually you're towing it somewhere.

Never. I'm a control freak.

Notice when I come to parade, I bring my own truck and trailer.

I drove to Oklahoma with my own truck and trailer

because I didn't want to trust someone to handle my car.

So this is the first time I

turned over one of my children to somebody else.

You're maturing, sir. You're maturing.

It's the years of therapy.

And realizing I really

don't want a trailer all the way to Florida.

Exactly. Brutal.

And it's in good hands.

It's in great hands, so I can't wait.

Wow. Look at that.

So what else did you have to do to that car to get it ready?

You know, not a whole lot.

I've had that car now about five years.

And so when I first got the car,

we did quite a bit of service work.

What kind of mileage is on the car?

It's actually, you know, it's going to be fun.

On the drive to works, it will turn 100,000 miles.

Mmm, okay.

So it's got like 99,600 miles.

And obviously,

I bought on this for a long time,

so again, it's all me father for I've sinned.

I literally always thought 928s

were super maintenance intensive.

It hadn't been used much

when I got the car, so we had to do

quite a bit of service initially.

But for the last five years, it's been

pretty dead nuts, reliable.

Very, very typical things.

I would almost argue it's probably been

my most reliable Porsche.

Really?

Oh, wow.

You better knock on the table.

We'll allow you to knock on the table

even though we usually don't say don't do it.

This is not real wood.

Yeah.

Although, if you ask Susie,

we took it on a PCA driving event, a wine tour

this past summer, and the temperatures

were just over 100 degrees.

And I wanted to bring a classic,

and I thought, okay, of my classics,

I really bluffed at

one of my transaxle cars.

So 944 Turbo, my 968

or the 928.

And we just used the 968 on the

Heatherwine tour in Napa, and so that

we'll do the 928.

And it worked good the first day,

and when it got north of about 100 degrees,

my AC definitely

still worked, but was getting a little...

There's a lot of glass area in 928.

Yeah.

But when I got it back to my shop,

we checked the charge on the AC

and we topped off with the R12

and it went back to working as it should.

And the whole time I've had it,

I've never even so much as recharged it.

It's still its original R12 system.

Yeah.

R12 is cold.

Yeah.

So if you see me pulling, it works,

and I'm not sweating, it's a good sign.

So as R12, consumers can't get it, right?

You have to be in the business or something?

No, nobody...

A shop can get it.

A shop can get it?

They stopped selling it in 1999.

So if you have it, it's because you...

So I bought...

It looks like a big barbecue canister.

I bought a canister in about 2002.

Uh-huh.

And I've been recharging my cars

from that same 35-pound canister

for 20-some odd years.

And it's still probably half-full.

Oh.

Because you only take up just a little bit.

Right.

A few ounces at a time.

So, yeah, if you can keep them R12,

they work way better.

Yeah.

Yeah, our Project 964 was R12

and it wasn't working,

so when I gave it to Bob Miller,

he said, let me just charge it and see what happens.

Charge it and cold air.

I'm like, awesome.

Yeah, keep it.

Mmm.

So, anyway,

but it's year of the trans-axle.

I think we're celebrating the trans-axle.

We're celebrating the trans-axle

at Workshare Union Amelia.

The other great thing about going...

the path that you're going from

Amelia and then up kind of northeast

and then into New York,

there's a lot of 928 folks

along that path.

Yes.

So you will have resources available, obviously.

I won't need them.

I'm just saying...

Dead nuts for viable intelligence.

It's nice to have that...

You are like giving the middle finger to fate.

Because, like I said, I...

Wait till we have the next podcast with him.

I only had the basic AAA,

not the premium.

No, I got fired by AAA.

Did I tell you this?

No.

What?

Did you abuse the 200-mile rule?

No, this is the craziest story.

Huge no shout-out to AAA Washington.

They actually fired me as a customer.

Really?

They sent me a form letter.

Not used.

AAA, if you're listening,

don't let it affect mine

because I like my gold membership.

You guys take great care of me.

He's AAA Maryland.

AAA Washington,

I don't know what they're thinking,

but I got this just random form letter.

It says, you know,

we were getting to inform you

we were canceling your membership

due to a violation of our terms of use

or whatever, you know.

And I thought, well, that's weird.

Because I've been a member for like 20 years.

And I thought, okay.

And I had used it like three times that year,

which was unusual,

but I'd gone many years where I hadn't used it.

It was just kind of a run of goofy luck.

Like my truck broke down in Montana.

And it was actually running with a friend

and his car broke down.

I said we could use it.

And it gave one of my kids a jump start.

Because it follows you.

It doesn't follow just one car.

Exactly.

And so when I called,

I said, you know, hey,

maybe someone fraudulently used my account

because I just can't think of anything I did

that would have been egregious.

And the customer service agent said to me,

well, if you don't know,

then you must have done something.

And I go, really?

That's what they said.

That's actually why I'm calling.

I'm a pretty reasonable person.

I said, here's the service uses I think I've had.

And I said, maybe you can confirm

if there's something outside of that.

And they wouldn't.

And the worst, most insulting part was,

it'd be one thing if they would have done it

at the end of the year.

They did it like 15 days after

they'd renewed my membership.

So it was auto-renew.

So they charged me for my membership

and then canceled me and wouldn't offer a refund.

Wow.

Yeah.

Shame on you.

Yes.

So I'm going straight commando.

Although that's not true.

I have Hagerty.

Yeah, Hagerty.

You don't command new beans.

Yes, I do.

Just let's, I'm sure our listeners know

there's no need to go into detail.

I want to keep my new pasta seats clean.

But they didn't give you a reason?

No.

They can do that?

No.

I mean, yes, they're a business like anything else.

Oh, they saw too many claims and therefore

they kicked you off.

So they limit you to a certain amount of miles, right?

Or four toes or the four toes.

There's a defined number of services that I hadn't exceeded

but somehow they felt that...

Wow.

Interesting.

And the funny thing is, like I said,

I'd go years at a time where you wouldn't use it at all.

Right.

Because it's just how life works.

That's how they figure percentage of people aren't going to do it.

Oh, yeah.

It's like a gym membership.

They count on the non-users to pay for the people

that they do have to toe or whatever.

But I know my friends at Hagerty are going to treat me right.

Hagerty Drivers Club will take over you.

Wow.

See?

I love the confidence.

You guys are...

Look at that smirk on his face.

It's like he's testing fate for it.

I can't say at the board.

My friends felt the same way when I drove my 914 down the Luft.

Yeah.

They were just in shock that I was driving this car

because they were all towing their cars.

Oh.

And I had the premium plus or whatever,

the 200-mile AAA.

But I told them, I said, you know,

this car's pretty simple to work on, so I'm not...

Mad respect to both of you.

Mad respect to Mr. Sass as well.

He'll get into a car of questionable quality

and drive across.

Very questionable quality.

God bless, Rob.

I love you, man.

I can be in a 97-mile...

What is it that we have?

The rental van that we have today?

The Pacifica?

Pacifica.

And I'm still kind of worried because it's not my car,

but I know it's like...

I've talked to him on the phone and he'll be driving somewhere

and he's like, it's 30 below outside

and the wind's blowing sideways

and I'm driving my 99996 for 280,000 miles.

And I'm like, no part of that seems like a bad idea to you.

And he's like, no, I'm great.

I got my podcast on.

I'm just coming along.

But you also fell into his little world

by climbing into his fairly unknown 996 turbo

and went north in the snow.

And I believe he was on summer tires.

That was confidential information.

We actually lied to people and we told them

we had winter tires because remember...

But did you have...

You had summer, not all season?

Well...

It's after so many years, I think it doesn't...

They made me nodding his head in agreement.

I think it was either Michelin or Pirelli.

Someone was going to send us some winter tires

and then they couldn't come up with the correct fitment.

And so we thought, well...

This is sponsored by Pirelli,

so it must have been the other way.

Yes, it would have been the unknown person, but...

I do remember, because those tires came in,

but they were the wrong size or something like that.

And you guys were planning to leave and...

It was lumping snow.

What could possibly go wrong with summer tires?

You have all-wheel drive, you'll be fine.

You know, it goes okay.

It's a stopping and steering that's problematic.

So just keep going forward.

You and Sass, you're daring.

That was one of the most fun trips I've ever had.

I think we did like 3,000 miles in like three days or something.

But Sass does not...

He doesn't hesitate at all.

It's pretty admirable.

I cannot do that.

I'm too nervous of a person.

He is a risk taker.

And now he transferred his risk to our good friend Damon over there.

Yeah.

And Damon loves his Cayenne.

He drove to Oklahoma. I mean, I saw it.

I proof of life.

He bought it. Damon had three spark plugs and new.

Was it three, Damon?

I mean, why do you own all of them?

I had a bunch of work to make sure it got better.

Oh.

But when you got it, it only had three spark plugs.

That is six, right?

Three new spark plugs.

You've done half the spark plugs in oil packs,

but didn't finish it.

Can they hear you when you're talking or no?

Maybe, probably a little bit.

Oh, okay. Sorry about that.

We don't have Damon mic'd up,

but what Damon was saying when he went to service

the Cayenne that there were

obviously three newer spark plugs

then on one side that...

I'm assuming the newer spark plugs

were the ones that were easily accessible.

No, he got a phone call and he forgot about it.

Hey, now we're dogging my friend Rob out.

Rob, we love you.

What he was probably doing, he was pouring

his heart and soul into Panorama for our members.

He was.

And he gave so much of his personal time,

he couldn't finish his job.

The printer called or something.

That's what I swear.

Wow, I didn't realize.

I remember you guys took the trip.

I didn't realize it was summer tires.

We didn't tell anyone that because people would have been so mad.

It wasn't the best strategy.

Let me tell you, we had some hairy mouths.

The car survived and you guys survived.

It survived. We had a great time.

You went all the way through Quebec.

Oh, yeah.

So great.

Tertiary roads through the state of Maine

and dumping snow at

higher rates of speed.

Oh, God, no.

We were pushing snow with that front splitter.

I thought we were going to get out

and the whole front bumper would be missing

a couple of times when we hit some wows in the road.

And Rob, another comment I'll pay Rob.

Rob doesn't ever sweat it.

I'm driving.

I said, what's your car?

He's like, no, you're a great driver.

I said, well, are you worried about that?

He's like, nope.

Here's the story.

This was when Rob

came on fairly early.

We were down at Amelia.

I forget the color yellow.

The car yellow.

Convertible.

We're going back to the hotel.

Were you in the car at the time?

No, I think Roxanne and maybe Luann were.

Yeah.

Or maybe it was Cindy.

I know Roxanne was in the car.

We're making a beeline from the

Concord back to the hotel.

I'm not kidding you.

It must have been, I don't know if it was a beaver

or a raccoon.

Or a raccoon.

But it went kato kato.

And it was

It didn't sound like we just grazed it

because the car was high.

I'm pretty sure there's no radio.

The big chunk out of the splitter.

He was like, huh.

I hit beavers all the time.

We were still like 40 minutes

away from the hotel.

He was like, you don't think that damage anything.

I'm like, well, I don't see any lights coming on your dash.

That line of coolant behind it should be just fine.

He did not skip a beat.

And we get to the hotel

and he gets out

a big chunk of the spoiler

and the fog light

was missing or something like that.

He's like, oh, I'm sure I can find a replacement.

No big deal.

I love that about him.

It's kind of nice.

It takes all kinds.

Are you looking forward

to any of the auctions at Amelia?

Are you buying anything?

Or you're always buying something.

I am bought out.

What?

Who is this person?

I just bought that turbo.

I wasn't planning to buy.

And then I just bought another portion this week.

Do you tell?

Another rant, but this is what's on my mind.

One of my pet peeves,

I was just talking to Ralph,

the trainer here about this.

One of my life pet peeves is people say,

oh, Targas.

And they say it with a Targa.

And they go, oh, they weak,

they squeak, they rattle,

they this, they that.

I'm like, no, they don't.

Now, most of them do.

No, they don't, both of them do.

Not because it's a fault

that they haven't been maintained.

I said, do you really think

back in the day, Porsche would have put this car out?

How concerned Porsche was

with quality control and engineering?

They would have made a car that had

horrific wind noise and rattles

and leaked like a sieve.

No, they didn't.

Now, fast forward 30, 40, 50 years later,

most of them do.

But every so often, you come across

a car that is

an excellent example of whatever

that given car is.

So, long story short,

some clients brought to me a 73 and a half

911T Targa

that they had bought when it was one year old

from our local Porsche dealer

that's just a couple miles from my store

called Interlake Porsche at the time.

They call me,

he's not doing well

and they want to move the car to the next owner.

They've been sitting for a while, so I went over

saw the car in the garage

and the car needed some

work to get it back up to speed, but the car was

100% original.

Like original, original, original, original.

How many miles?

70,000.

And just, oh,

so we bring it to the shop,

we spend a few weeks kind of getting it

up and running and I thought, well,

I'm going to try to put a couple hundred miles on it

just to kind of sort through it.

And the first time I drive this car,

I was like, oh no,

I'm in trouble.

This car,

it's as if the hand of God.

Like, it is so good and so correct,

like it was like tears to drive this car.

I thought,

I so badly wish I could offer a service

where I allow people to come drive this car.

Because how to drive a right one, a correct one, right?

From every input of that car,

the way it shifts,

the way the door sounds when you close it,

the brake feel, the clutch take up,

the way the motor revs,

and on this case,

the target top, you can go 100 miles an hour

and it's dead quiet.

I mean, it's dead quiet.

With the top on.

And I thought,

now, the car's not perfect.

It's silver metallic, so as you know,

the silver's failed.

So it's got some clear quote failure

and it had some seat covers on it starting

in day one and the seat covers, I think,

did more damage than protection.

Because it held the moisture?

No, it's got Papita seat centers

and I think there's the rubbing the fabric on the fabric,

so they're a little bit threadbare.

But it has just a really nice,

warm patina to it

and the target bar, you know,

the brushed target bar.

And the car originally was

a cookie cutter car,

which I like cookies.

And they looked pretty...

Explain some people might not know what you're talking about.

What is a cookie cutter?

So most people associate early 9-11s

having Fuchs, which are the forged,

you know, five-pedal brushed aluminum wheel.

Great wheel.

But they don't realize on a 9-11T

the standard wheel was actually a steel wheel

with a bright hubcap

and then the middle option was a cast wheel.

Maybe I had a company called ATS

and they were called a cookie cutter.

They're 15 by 6 inch

and they actually are kind of a painted silver

but they have kind of a rough finish to them.

And they're just a charming wheel.

Not very commonly seen.

But anyway, when I was looking at the car,

the wheels looked just heavily stained.

But the more I looked at them, I could tell

they'd never been really cleaned up.

So when I cleaned them up,

I realized actually they still have factory cosmoline

on the front of them.

Really? Wow.

And so I sent them to my dry ice vendor

and we dry ice the original wheels

and they look new.

And so I put some Pirelli.

CN36 is on there.

Shout out, awesome tire.

And yeah, so I started driving this car

and as you know,

that's a half-year-only car only sold here

in the US, the CIS injection.

And it's just a lovely car.

Oh, nice.

So kind of a good but sad story.

So the family,

he was great.

He knew the whole story on the car.

I didn't know exactly what the extent of his illness was

but I could tell he was relatively sick.

So as we were progressing to the shop,

his wife would stop by

and check on progress.

And he'd stop by when we were about

95% done and I said,

hey, when we get done, let's get photos

and maybe make a video of you talking about

your experience owning the car.

I said, yeah, sounds good.

And unfortunately, he passed away before

that happened.

And so that maybe, I don't know,

I'm a story person about cars.

And so between how much I love driving the car,

the fact it was sold at my local dealer,

and the connection with this lovely family,

I thought.

So I

somewhat have a conflict of interest.

So I presented to the family, I said,

hey, let me give you a few options.

And so I said, here's what I think the car is worth.

I would like to keep it,

but I also recognize that

I want to make sure I'm serving you well.

And so here are your options

and if you want to sell it to me, that's okay.

If you want me to sell it and put it in the open market,

I can do that as well.

They said, no, we'd like you to have it.

So I'm actually going to take the car to his service,

which was like on April 11th.

So we're going to take it.

Yeah, because they said, yeah, everyone remembered him having this car.

So I said, yeah.

So it's a long story, but

that's actually one of the things I love about the car.

I love that, yeah, exactly.

I love all that.

In fact, interesting that you bring up Target,

because your name came up.

Our brother in DC,

Gregory,

was looking at

on Bring a Trailer,

I think it was a 73E Target.

And I think it was yellow

or orange

or something like that.

He texted it to me.

And basically what I said was,

if you're seriously interested in a long-hood Target,

before we start looking around,

call Nathan.

Nathan will tell you what to look for,

what's out there, kind of the range.

And so that's how we ended the conversation.

But yeah, I was like, if you're serious about this,

buying the right car is so important

because he saw all the pictures

and I was like, yeah,

it might be a great car.

But someone needs to tell you that.

Someone that's a specialist needs to tell you

that is a good car,

because you and I don't know that

and just going off the pictures.

Everything looks good in pictures.

And if you're going to spend that kind of money,

how disappointed would you be

that you're bidding and you win it

and then you get it and the next thing you know

you have to spend another 30 grand

or whatever it is to get it

to the level that you want.

Find someone like yourself

or an expert that you know

to guide you along that process.

Because again, a good Target is really good

and a bad Target is really bad.

Like if you drive one,

I get it, like I've driven the ones

where 40 miles an hour,

the wind roar over the top,

you can't even have a conversation.

I mean the thought of going 60 miles an hour,

it just seems painful.

I would think they would be more prone to rust

because of the fact that people didn't take care of the seals

and water would get in more so than a coupe.

I mean possibly

914's are that way.

They don't take care of seals

and water starts getting in

and you don't see it because it gets between the pad

and the sound insulation

until it starts rusting from the inside out.

So if you've

been on say Facebook

or Instagram

there's a dealership in Monterey

they've been very active

in finding cars in garages

and barns and stuff like that.

And your story

that you were just telling me,

are there really that many cars still out there

that are kind of undiscovered?

You know, you think

every time I find a car I think

this is the last one that I'll find.

And the answer to that is that's not true.

I mean that individual

he proves that wrong

I prove it wrong all the time

I'm going to find cars.

They are out there.

Although in theory it has to be a finite number

and there has to be less with each passing year.

But

again every time I find a car

I think well even my 928

take that 928 I was searching all over the nation

for a good color

early all original

manual 928 all over the country

I'd flown back east to look at a car

and I bought that car

literally two miles from my house

I've never seen it

did not know the people and I actually

the referral how I found the car

came through a friend of mine

outside of the Porsche world

he used to be a tenant of mine

in one of my rental houses

so it was just like fate.

I know this car it's a Porsche

I think because I saw the crest

do you think you might be interested

is that how it comes out?

Apparently the couple that had my car

were selling their house

and his mom was their real estate agent

and she they were talking

he says oh I think this guy I know

I think is in the Porsche business

and so he called me and said hey

can I have these people call

and I literally thought they would be a 924

944

and when I got the lady on the phone

and she wasn't actually sure what model it was

but I did say well it was the engine

in the front of the back

and she said the front

and so I said well

okay do you remember

when you got the car

it's funny how people's brains work

she's like well my daughter was born in 1984

and we had it before then

so it's time for time after that

but we got married in 77 and we didn't have it

so I'm thinking okay

it's somewhere in that range

and so I said well

does 928 sound familiar

she goes well maybe

she goes I know it's got a V8

oh

I was like okay

and I said well does it have a clutch

what's a clutch

no she was like yes because

I know how to drive a manual but I don't like driving it

that's why I've never really driven it

so now I know it's a 928 manual

somewhere between a 78 and an 84

and so sure enough I go there

and they open the garage

and here's this all original

79,928

and were there like boxes sitting on top of it

no he was very particular about it

it's interesting how people that are

so close to their car

but yet once it's time to

how it leaves

how it departs it's amazing to me

that stories like that still exist

or can happen

it is funny

I bought a 356 years ago

from a guy who had bought the car when it was a year old

so it was a 64C and he bought the car

in 1965 when he was in college

and I bought the car from

his original owner car

and it was not running at that point

but all complete like a good car

and so we agreed on a price

and I said I'll call my flatbed

guy and he'll come get the car

so I told it was about an hour

wait and I said hey the tow truck driver

is going to be here shortly do you want to be here

to take any pictures or anything

and he said no

I don't want to be here for that

and he walked in the house and did not

come back

he said I've decided

I'm done with it and I'm just

so maybe that was his way of

you know

watching it go down the road would have been too painful

I'm not sure but he was pretty funny

he was like nope

not interested

I'm like do you want a picture with the car

chapter closed

man do you have specific

instructions for your family

I think

earlier I thought

the good topic would be what car

would you want driven to your memorial service

you just went really dark

why are we going that way

you just said

that you were going to drive it to

the guy's memorial service and I said

wouldn't you want all of your friends

to show up in their Porsches

I would want everybody to bring out

their cars and just

make some noise

at the party

the last party that would be awesome

I'm going to have to go a little off-porsche

topic here because I'll make my kids watch this podcast

because we've actually had this discussion

I kid you not

in the pickup let me guess it's the pickup

well that

do you want to be in the back of the pickup

oh that'd be even

oh I know a handmade wooden box

in the back

oh we forgot to latch it

he put that in the instructions

we forgot

no I actually told my kids a hard and fast rule

I said so help me God at my funeral

if people get up and talk about Porsche

I failed as a human being

you know that's going to happen

replay this podcast

the first sentence

in everybody's speech

I want people to say

it would be such an awkward service because

what else are you going to talk about

you'd have your running buddies

I think I'm a pretty damn good dad

I'm a good brother

I'm a good husband

you know I'm involved in my church

you don't want it to be the ultimate defining

you could be like number 7

on the list

I get that

I know you too

okay fine

we'll say all that fluffy stuff first

but then we'll go but you really are all here

because we met through the Porsche

club network

because you know the funeral home will be spread into

like your running buddies

your family

the Porsche people

you'd walk in and immediately say

oh there's a Porsche guy

you see all the fit guys and you'd be like

yeah we're not walking in

any of your fitness guys cross

into the Porsche world

there's a few

I definitely have

different world friends

I have my car friends

I have others

do you have other friends besides car world

so on the spot

family

family and car friends

you're focused

I just don't have time to

I don't have time to be any other friends

I'm so busy

well it reminds me years ago

I was up at one of our local mountains

and I was skiing

we had a big dump

and I get on the lift

and I push up my goggles

and the guy looks at me and he kind of doubles

he's like Nathan

and it's a customer

and it struck me so funny because he looks at me

he's like you ski

and I was like

yeah I'm in Seattle like 92%

of us too

but I just had no idea

and I was like you know I do things

other than Porsche I know it's like a shocking

concept

that happens when people know you

for one side of your life

and they're like I hear you're in the cars

kind of

and then they go oh I didn't realize

you were that deep into it

a little bit

yeah so

hopefully we're all interesting people

outside of Porsche as well right

we are

but I will also say the club

has brought us together

because of the car

but the things that we enjoy in life

there's a lot of commonalities too

yeah that's true

and that's how we are able to hang out each other

when it comes either to food

or travel

and that kind of stuff we

we're tripping at sea we don't even have our cars

and we still you know this one

we pulled along who didn't even think he could

ever possibly like a cruise

and guess what he goes every year now

but he will only go

I believe you would only go to

tripping at sea because of

all the PCA friends that are on

I have no interest in becoming friends with cruise people

such a

stereotype for many

yes I do enjoy

being on a boat with Porsche

people and you know

you have a lot of friends you meet a lot of people

I tell everyone that it's a

very cool experience

that you don't need a car

I mean parade you don't need a car

and parade you can have a great time if you fly to the parade

any of our events really works reunion

parade

traffin

just being around the people

and there's always

always a seat available

that if you wanted to ride with someone

and there's always someone

willing to take you

I found that to be true absolutely

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and I'll just go ahead

and knock off the events as well

we talked about Workshare Union

Amelia Island March 6th

we are sold out and I don't think can you still

register I think we're closed

let me even put scroll up again

this airs March 9th

so this will be over

but you can listen to our podcast where we talk all about

exactly

and of course traffin at sea

we are going to be September 19th

this year Nathan will be on board

as well as some other great guest speakers

and we're really going to start sending out

the information on traffin at sea

to everyone we've been quite focused

on Porsche Parade

and of course as you know

Parade and Lake Placid registration

is open

the event itself is June 14th through 20th

and it's going to be a record

setting Porsche Parade

for the most part

the hotels are sold out

of course if you can find your own accommodations

you can still register

and come to the event

but it's going to be bonkers in Lake Placid

and so with that

kind of done

we are really going to start turning

the marketing machine

for traffin at sea

because that also is going to be a fantastic event

the pricing

to go from Vancouver

San Francisco

Santa Barbara

then down to LA doing stuff with

regions at the beginning

and at the end

it's going to be a wine cruise

one of the excursions is a wine

and chocolate excursion

so if you're looking for

that kind of event

and once we publish

or actually you can see the prices

they have a sommelier telling us what kind of wine

exactly

with her she select

and her she gives

they'll be much much higher level

chocolate

I prefer Berlo with Reese's Pieces

I don't think they're going to have Manny doing that session

yeah

and also

for parade episode

213

this is 219 you're listening to

213 will be the

phase 2

since we did the phase 1 parade

episode we got a lot of great feedback

a lot of people listen to it actually

we have so many new people coming to parades

so if you'll be able to learn all about phase 2

and the phase 2

is where you sign up like just at 40 events

it's going to take a little longer

to register it in phase 1

but we're going to give you some

some tips some suggestions

how to get through it and what happens

if something is sold out

yeah phase 2 is going to be very important for

those attending especially those of you that are

new to it it's going to be

a bit overwhelming because

PCA and the parade

organizers are going to ask

a lot of details of how you want

to spend your time with us

and I've never been through

any other registration system

that has to

accommodate your meal preferences

to which kid you're bringing to

are you autocrossing on Wednesday

are you going to TSC

we ask all of that

and it's to make sure that you have a great

experience and because of the volume

this year typically things

don't quote quote sell out

but I have a feeling with this year's

volume certain events

will sell out so if you have

certain events that you

absolutely must want to do

you need to

one know that that's

what you're going to register for very quickly

and then kind of check out

and you know we'll walk you through all of that

but yeah it's

going to be a little bit different just with such high

demand and also I think it's going

to be fantastic to see all the cars

that are coming with this kind of

volume

get to see Nathan's 928

well if Manny has his way

it might not be but

it'll get there somehow

either you driving it or on a flat bed

I mean either way it's going to get there

it'll be fine my friend Manny

he's just going to rent a suburb

you don't have a Virgin Mary on a dashboard

or anything like that I'm a good Catholic boy

that's one of my other things about me

so I have my little Catholic medals

there you are

so I think we still have a little bit more time

what else is going on

in the mind of yours

well one thing

I'm always being self-centered here

so I'm seeing these beautiful PCCB

calipers and discs here

so if there's anyone out there who's taken off

a PCCB setup on a 997

and put it on the shelf and forgot about it

please reach out to me I need those

for my new 997 turbo

I mean you can buy them new

Mr. Frugal

yes you can

I know you've priced them how much are they new

you know

a front set is 20

I didn't see what the original

just buy 40

for the setup

so yeah

so I actually installed PCCBs on my 996

turbo the one I took to parade last year

and they look so good

I got kind of a deal on those

so I'm looking for something similar

so what I might do

is I'm probably going to do some gyro discs

and then I'm probably going to refinish the brake calipers

in Zanzibar because I don't like the fact I have

red brake calipers on an orange car

kind of clashes a bit

but if I had PCCBs

and I

it's a safety thing someone should be concerned

about my safety the car would stop better

this is important

we have a great listener out there

alongside

PCCBs I have a question for you

we had a lively discussion

in my region about this

do you own

any Porsches that have center locks

oh man you're going to go there

live you're going to go there

I do not I have owned them in the past

what are your thoughts on them

I'm talking about the street car

not the race car

well funny enough I just had this debate on my new car

so one thing I do hate about 997

turbos I hate the factory wheels

I think they're hideous

I just can't stand them

but you have five bolts on that car

because they're the bright work with the painted triple spokes

they're just really busy

they're a little busy I agree

they're not that bad

they're forged they're a beautiful wheel

in terms of quality but they don't look good to me

ten years from now you'll be like where did I put those factory wheels

so funny enough

in my world in the shop we seem to mate

center lock wheels

I mean I must have ten sets of

used center lock wheels that people don't even

just say just take them I don't even want them

because they're switching to five bolts

they're spares for like

track cars or things and then

there's just not a big secondary market for center lock wheels

like there are in five bolt wheels

so I have two

like new in the box

997.2 GT3 RS

center lock wheels

and I thought to myself huh

I could convert my new 997 turbo

to center locks and I already have a free

pair of wheels for it

and I like that look so believe it or not from

Suncoast right now you can buy the OEM

center lock conversion kit for that car

for $2,300

because I thought about buying

997.1 GT3 wheels

but they're $10,000

for a set of new ones

and I'm OCD I only want original and new so

I'm like ten grand or

I could do a center lock conversion for $2,300

and take my free wheels

and marry them

so

I might but I did just buy a set of forged

lines I found on the PCA

customers yeah

popped up a beautiful set of forged lines that are kind of a

repop of the

style looks very similar to the 997.2

turbo S wheels but non center locks

so they look original

you want to live with center locks?

the maintenance doesn't bother you?

no have you done maintenance on it?

yes

but if it were my only portion

I drove it a lot

his usage

is different

none of my cars get a ton of miles

other than I have a few cars that are a lot

but that car is not going to be one of them

but I ultimately decided

that I'm going to do these forged lines

I'm going to refinish them in a shade

to sort of match

the interior because the next thing I want to do

is I want to put graphics

that are homage to the .2

GTPRS graphics

they did the gold foil graphics on the fenders

I'm going to do that but take the turbo script

and do some sort of homage

just my own take on something fun

you know me I like to mess with stuff

so back to

your discussion on your

chat

I don't think Nathan has a lot of experience

with something to be able to

really

we have them in the shop all the time

so we take them on and off and do service on cars

here's my theory on them

to me this is the one thing

Porsche disappointed me in

was putting center locks on their street cars

because it's the

amount of maintenance

versus a five bolt that you have to do to take care of it

I went to a seminar or a tech session

and had a dealer about

care and feeding of center locks

and I couldn't believe how much work it was

to get these things

I mean it seemed like we were going backwards

for really no advantage

whatsoever and every engineer from

Porsche I went into I asked him the question

why do we have center locks

and the answer is always pretty much

cosmetics yeah I agree with that

I mean theoretically they can give you the perfect

torque because it's centered

but you can come pretty darn close with the torque wrench

and five bolts

maybe if they had used

motorsport parts

which also require a lot of maintenance

but that's a race car

maybe I have more respect for it

but it's not even that it's just

I like the simplicity of a five lug

and not knowing that

I don't have to service my lug nuts

well I mean I don't know if you've seen it

but they do have that new 914

center lock update kit I was going to get it for you

for Christmas but if you don't want it I

just putting one lug nut on the wheel that's it

that's kind of the rob sassiness

he only uses three of the lug nuts

what could possibly go wrong

what is a service schedule for center locks

did you learn how often

I can't remember the model but it's

somebody on our

local region chat found that thread

on Reddit about it

and it was pretty hilarious from the people who owned them

just really despised them

and somebody called the grease

that you have to use as spawn of satan

because it gets everywhere

oh it's like anti-seize you put

like a little dot here and you ended up all in your face

so anyways and one member of our region

he loves them

and so he's

he's

someone who would love to

tell you the benefits of them when we get the chance

you know and I can't argue they look great

I will not argue that

let's be honest like 90% of the center lock GT cars

I'm just going to call like I see it

their whole use case is going to cars and coffee

so the time in which they're going to have

the service interval is

yeah that's not their worries

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anything else before we wrap up gentlemen

no I think it's been a blast

it's been fun it's always good to have you Nathan

thank you very much for joining us

thank you for coming to tech tactics

Eason it's kind of cool that we're going to spend

a lot of time with you back Eason

maybe we'll try to set you up as you come through

DC or we'll do something

every time we

have you on the channel

yeah it's very well received so thank you

all the time that you put into it

as being part of the tech

committee and such it's one of the

fun things that we get to do

but it's a big value for our members

and keep on checking on our

pca youtube channel because we'll have Nathan's

presentation up there so

oh no I gotta be on my best

presentation you're gonna do

I gotta go back tonight and do it

because I was gonna be on a rant

let me remind you

watch what you say

because we'll be recording

but he knows that dame is doing it two days

so if you mess this up

it can go to the second day

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