Lancia Stratos: Original Rally Icon — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 178
About this episode
Exploring the iconic Lancia Stratos, Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott dive into its rich history and their personal driving experiences. The episode highlights the Stratos as the first purpose-built rally car, discussing its unique engineering, driving dynamics, and the challenges it presents to drivers. With lively debates on its performance compared to the Ferrari 246 Dino, the hosts share their thoughts on the car's quirks, handling, and the thrill it delivers. Anecdotes about its rally success and design philosophy make this episode a captivating listen for fans of automotive history and rally culture.
Chrysler V16T
"...I made the mistake slash decision slash fortuitous comment about Chazetta V16T and my phone has been ringing off the hook because everyone has a V16T. Well, everyone has a story about the man who created that car..."
The Chrysler V16T is a special car made by a company called Chazetta. It's known for being very powerful and having a unique look, making it a topic of interest among car enthusiasts.
The Chrysler V16T is a rare supercar known for its unique design and powerful engine. It was created by the company Chazetta, which is often discussed in automotive circles for its ambitious engineering and design choices.
tires
"...it looks like you got some tires for Christmas. Where? Oh, is that that smell? The non-burning rubber smell..."
Tires are the round rubber parts that help cars move and grip the road. They are very important for safety and performance when driving.
Tires are crucial components of a vehicle that provide traction, support, and stability. They are designed to withstand various conditions and are essential for safe driving.
Volkswagen Golf
"... it. There's a hyper track all seasons now on the golf. And what a difference over five-year-old PSA has..."
engine mounts
"Like the engine feels like it's mounted in rubber. It's not bolted directly to the chassis, for example."
Engine mounts hold the engine in place in a car. They help reduce vibrations and noise so that the ride is smoother and quieter.
Engine mounts are components that secure the engine to the vehicle's chassis while allowing for some movement. They are often made of rubber or other materials to absorb vibrations and reduce noise from the engine.
Lancia Beta
"...Derek Tamizka. And over there is the Lancia Alpha Beta Gamma Stratos. Stradale. Stradale. Say that 12 ti..."
Lancia Gamma
"... Tamizka. And over there is the Lancia Alpha Beta Gamma Stratos. Stradale. Stradale. Say that 12 times wi..."
Lancia Stratos
"...ka. And over there is the Lancia Alpha Beta Gamma Stratos. Stradale. Stradale. Say that 12 times with a lif..."
mid-engine car
"...Whether there had ever been an elegant... Mid-engine car. Mid-engine car."
In a mid-engine car, the engine is placed in the middle of the car instead of the front or back. This helps the car handle better and makes it more fun to drive, especially in sports cars.
A mid-engine car is a vehicle where the engine is located near the center of the car, between the front and rear axles. This layout helps improve handling and balance, making it popular in sports and performance cars.
Ferrari 458
"...some people say, come on, the 458 is very elegant. No. I disagree with that."
The Ferrari 458 is a high-performance sports car made by Ferrari. It's known for its beautiful looks and powerful engine that makes it very fast.
The Ferrari 458 is a mid-engine sports car known for its stunning design and performance. It features a naturally aspirated V8 engine, delivering an exhilarating driving experience.
Mclaren Speedtail
"So, I can see McLaren Speedtail NSX. 288GTO."
The McLaren Speedtail is a very fast car designed to be super aerodynamic, which helps it go really fast. It's a hybrid, meaning it uses both a gas engine and electric power.
The McLaren Speedtail is a hybrid hypercar known for its aerodynamic design and high performance, featuring a unique elongated shape that enhances its speed capabilities.
Ferrari 288 GTO
"288GTO. 288GTO. GTO is too aggressive."
The Ferrari 288 GTO is a famous sports car from the 1980s that is very powerful and rare. It's known for its speed and unique design, making it a favorite among car collectors.
The Ferrari 288 GTO is a legendary supercar from the 1980s, known for its powerful turbocharged V8 engine and limited production, making it a highly sought-after collector's item.
Pontiac GTO
"288GTO. GTO is too aggressive. Maybe Speedtail, because ..."
Toyota Previa
"...Toyota Previa was a very good one. That made me laugh."
The Toyota Previa is a type of minivan that Toyota made in the 1990s. It has a distinctive shape and is roomy inside, which is great for families.
The Toyota Previa is a minivan that was produced by Toyota from 1990 to 1997. It is known for its unique design and spacious interior, making it a popular choice for families.
Jaguar XJ220
"...XJ220. Approaching."
The Jaguar XJ220 is a very fast sports car made by Jaguar in the 1990s. It was famous for being one of the quickest cars you could buy back then.
The Jaguar XJ220 is a supercar that was produced in the early 1990s, known for its high performance and distinctive design. It was one of the fastest production cars of its time.
Audi R8
"First gen R8. Beautiful. Yeah. Not elegant."
The Audi R8 is a fast and stylish sports car that was first made in 2006. It's known for its great looks and powerful performance.
The Audi R8 is a high-performance sports car known for its sleek design and powerful engine. The first generation of the R8 was produced from 2006 to 2015 and features a mid-engine layout, making it a favorite among enthusiasts.
Spyker
"Maybe Pagani, Spiker."
Spyker is a brand that makes luxury sports cars with unique designs. They are not very common and are often considered collector's items.
Spyker is a Dutch manufacturer of luxury sports cars, known for their distinctive styling and aviation-inspired design elements. They produce a limited number of vehicles, making them rare and exclusive.
Pagani
"Maybe Pagani, Spiker."
Pagani is a brand that makes very expensive and fast sports cars. They are known for their unique and beautiful designs.
Pagani is an Italian manufacturer of high-performance sports cars, known for their unique designs and limited production numbers. They focus on craftsmanship and performance, making their cars highly sought after by collectors.
Alpine A110
"How about a deep blue A110? I don't know the color."
The Alpine A110 is a small sports car that is fun to drive and has a powerful engine. It's known for being light and quick, making it great for racing or spirited driving.
The Alpine A110 is a lightweight sports car known for its agile handling and performance. It features a mid-engine layout and is designed for driving enthusiasts.
Pagani Zonda
"McLaren GT, Ferrari 430 Pagani Speedtel."
The Pagani Zonda is a super-fast car made by Pagani, famous for its unique look and powerful engine.
The Pagani Zonda is a high-performance sports car known for its unique design and powerful engine, produced by the Italian manufacturer Pagani.
Ferrari 430
"Thing in the background in a second. McLaren GT, Ferrari 430 Pagani Speedtel. Ferrari Dino didn't make the cut..."
Mclaren Gt
"McLaren GT, Ferrari 430 Pagani Speedtel."
The McLaren GT is a high-end sports car made for long drives, offering both speed and comfort.
The McLaren GT is a luxury sports car designed for grand touring, combining performance with comfort and practicality.
Ferrari Dino
"Ferrari Dino didn't make the cut, and that was the one where I was like, oh."
The Ferrari Dino is a classic sports car from Ferrari, known for its unique design and smaller V6 engine.
The Ferrari Dino is a series of sports cars produced by Ferrari in the late 1960s and early 1970s, known for their V6 engines and distinctive styling.
Ferrari 246 Dino
"Oh, yeah, we screwed that up. Yeah, the 246 Dino is elegant."
The Ferrari 246 Dino is a specific version of the Dino sports car, known for its stylish look and good performance.
The Ferrari 246 Dino is a variant of the Dino series, featuring a 2.4-liter V6 engine and known for its elegant design and performance.
Maserati MC20
"Diablo, no, that one F1, no. MC20, no. It just has, it's just long."
Porsche Gt Carrera
"Somebody, NSX, Ford GT, Carrera GT, first R8,"
The Porsche Carrera GT is a rare and powerful sports car with a strong engine, making it very exciting to drive.
The Porsche Carrera GT is a limited-production supercar known for its powerful V10 engine and exceptional handling.
Mclaren F1
"Somebody, NSX, Ford GT, Carrera GT, first R8, McLaren F1, Mid-Engine, Ferrari's aren't elegant."
The McLaren F1 is a famous super-fast car that was very advanced for its time, featuring a unique driving position and a strong engine.
The McLaren F1 is a legendary supercar known for its innovative design, including a central driving position and a powerful BMW V12 engine.
Koenigsegg Jesko
"König's egg, the Jamera."
The Koenigsegg Jesko is an ultra-fast car made by Koenigsegg, designed for maximum speed and performance with cutting-edge technology.
The Koenigsegg Jesko is a high-performance hypercar known for its extreme speed, advanced aerodynamics, and innovative engineering.
Porsche Cayman
"Cayman N220, no. 987 Cayman, Vera, no."
The Porsche Cayman is a sporty car that is fun to drive and practical for daily use, with the engine located in the middle for better handling.
The Porsche Cayman (987) is a mid-engine sports car that offers a balance of performance and everyday usability, known for its sharp handling.
Gordon T50
"Well, why don't you tell them what elegant is? T50, M1. T50 is not."
M1
"T50, M1. M1 is not."
The M1 is a classic sports car made by BMW. It was one of their first supercars and is known for being fast and having a unique design.
The M1 is a sports car produced by BMW in the late 1970s and early 1980s. It was notable for its mid-engine layout and was one of the first supercars from BMW, featuring a lightweight design and high performance.
McLaren T50
"Yeah, long and curvaceous. There's a lot of T33, T50."
The McLaren T50 is a supercar that is very light and fast, created by a famous car designer. It's known for its powerful engine and unique design.
The McLaren T50 is a highly acclaimed supercar known for its lightweight design and powerful naturally aspirated engine, designed by legendary engineer Gordon Murray.
Ferrari 296
"I don't think the T50 is. 296 is pretty close."
The Ferrari 296 is a new sports car from Ferrari that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor to be faster and more efficient.
The Ferrari 296 is a hybrid sports car that combines a V6 engine with an electric motor, offering impressive performance and efficiency.
horsepower
"...The car weighs 2,100 pounds and has 190 horsepower. So it's about like at least."
Horsepower tells you how powerful a car's engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and more powerful the car can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement used to quantify the power output of an engine. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, which is crucial for understanding a car's performance capabilities.
Lancia 037
"And this very much feels like the Lancia 037 that I drove, which was sort of almost zero effort."
The Lancia 037 is a famous rally car from the early 1980s. It's known for being light and easy to handle, making it great for racing on rough terrain.
The Lancia 037 is a rally car that was produced in the early 1980s and is known for its lightweight construction and rear-wheel-drive layout. It was successful in rally competitions and is celebrated for its handling characteristics.
Porsche 911
"...It's like everything that you get in a 911, but just more so. I agree the shifter is not very good..."
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people admire for its speed and how well it handles on the road. It's known for being fun to drive and has been around for many years.
The Porsche 911 is a renowned sports car known for its distinctive design and exceptional handling. It has a long history of performance and is often celebrated for its driving dynamics and engineering.
Mazda Miata
"...ell, I have a Ferrari that I'm using in lieu of a Miata, right? I'm just, you know, I'm gonna take it to ..."
Peugeot 308S
"And the 308 and the 246 feel fairly similar to me. That's a 308's diff is no joke. I mean, it's one of the few mid-engine cars"
BMW E30M3S
"And so, but, you know, even cars like Mercedes-Cars are worth 190, all those cars that are E30M3's, homologation cars are based on a regular production car"
Lancia Delta Integrale
"... is going to be a car like a 190-cause worth or a Delta integral A. That's derived from a thing that's meant for s..."
Porsche 718 Cayman GT4
"...th a spot six in it. The and then the Ferrari 308 GT4 and the or the late 246 and the Lamborghini Eurac..."
Ferrari 308
"...sh beetle with a spot six in it. The and then the Ferrari 308 GT4 and the or the late 246 and the Lamborghini E..."
Lamborghini Miura
"... walk up to it and read, or this happens with the Miura, right? Nobody knows what the Miura is if they're..."
Lancia Flavia
"...nanferina had designed the Flaminia Coupe and the Flavia and they did the beta Monte Carlo after."
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
"...aminia Coupe and the Flavia and they did the beta Monte Carlo after. So there was a very established relationsh..."
Lancia Beta Monte Carlo
"...he Flaminia Coupe and the Flavia and they did the beta Monte Carlo after. So there was a very established relationsh..."
Lamborghini Kuntosh
"...yeah, the trunk releases every other damn car the Kuntosh has it because it was also Bertone produced car."
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint
"Really? The Giulietta Sprint is a Bertone car as is the Sprint Pitch Spechale."
Porsche Boxster
"...lise, and I swapped with our friend who is in his boxster. It is 96 boxster."
Chevrolet Corvette
"compared to like a vintage race car, like a C2 Corvette race car or a sort of- I think it's civilized com..."
Lotus Amira
"... overloady cars. But in a very different way from Amira. So when I took it to Carza Coffee,"
Ferrari F430
"...n their driving experience. And then I compared a F430 Spachale and that new Stratos. It's sort of the s..."
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