Maxy pandy - 26 May 2026
About this episode
Motoring Podcast - News Show covers a mix of policy, tech, and design. Motability pauses its Drive Smart driving-monitoring scheme after complaints about “unreliable technology, loss of privacy and lack of choice over signing up.” The hosts also debate UK VAT on public EV charging and how public charging costs can be “many multiples” higher than home charging, while fuel-duty changes ripple through prices. Later, they dig into connected-car app security, Stellantis partnerships, and a wave of Ferrari/Mercedes design takes.
Motability has announced that it will be pausing the ‘Drive Smart’ scheme that included fitting a black box to cars owned by those under the age of 30 leasing a car from them. Unfortunately they are not cancelling it but will amend it and try again. This discriminates against disabled drivers rather than helping them be more independent and live as active a life as possible. Click this article link here, from Disability News Service, for more.
FOLLOW UP: THE TREASURY REJECTED MINISTERIAL CALL TO DROP PUBLIC CHARGING VAT RATEThe Treasury Department stood firm in the face of calls, by ministers, to drop the VAT rate for public EV chargers to 5%. HMRC is appealing the tax tribunal that agreed it should be cut due to their own criterial making it clear it should not be charged at 20%. To read more, click this article link from Europe Says.
GOVERNMENT EXTENDS FUEL DUTY CUTLast week the Government announced that it will be extending the fuel duty cut to the end of the year, thanks to the idiocy in the Middle East. Whilst this sounds like it should help people, there are lots of evidence that shows those who need such help the most are disproportionately affected in times like these meaning they stop driving. For personal car usage this helps only the wealthy, however in the wider transportation ecosystem this will help to keep some costs down and not add to the impact the crisis is already having. For more on the news item, click this article link from Transport News.
STELLANTIS AND DONGFENG SIGN EUROPEAN DEALAston Martin had to seek more emergency funding, just two weeks ago, as it received £50 million from the consortium led by Lawrence Stroll. This is the eighth time they have had to do so, since the company launched it’s IPO in 2018. Click this Carscoops article link here for more.
There is also a link to a Top Gear article here, that goes into detail about if Stellantis’s new plan is in fact new, that we think you might find interesting.
HAS KIA AND NISSAN FIXED THEIR VULNERABILITIES IN 2 YEARSTwo years ago, security researcher Neiko Rivera, found some shocking API vulnerabilities in Kia and Nissan apps that allows easy access to vehicles he did not own. He has now followed that up, to see if improvements have been made, some have but mostly not and there’s new ones that are easily exploited and should wake the industry up (especially if combined with last week’s story about the MyAudi app). Click this YouTube link to his talk explaining what he has done and found.
On Thursday 4 June at 20:00 BST, we will be going live with a Q&A on our YouTube channel. We need your help though, send us your automotive and motoring related question you would like to hear us answer. To send one in use our Contact Page, linked to here, and put “Q&A” in the Subject Line so it does not get lost in all the spam, or any other way you can send a question to us.NEW NEW CAR NEWS -Ferrari LuceThe internet erupted this week following Ferrari revealing their first EV, the Luce. Designed by Jony Ive and Marc Newson, the finished product has caused quite the stir. The chaps discuss this and wonder what about it makes it a Ferrari. Click this EVO article link to read more.
Mercedes-AMG GTLast week Mercedes-AMG revealed their electric four door car, which also garnered a lot of attention, most of it negative. There is some impressive sounding tech dotted around the car, but that does require one to want to see beyond the looks, which is a big ask. Click this Autocar article link here, to read more.
Skoda EpiqNow for something more reflective of what people want at a price that can be afforded, the Skoda Epiq. From £24,090, this is the smallest electric SUV the brand offers. Expect typically VW Group interior with Skoda touches and decent exterior looks. Click this Motoring Research article link to read more.
LUNCHTIME READ: IN DEFENCE OF LIGHTNESSFriend of the show, Nir Kahn, has written an interesting piece on predominately defence vehicles but the trap many fall into with fixating on one aspect and ignoring others meaning opportunities go begging to make a better product. To read more, click this LinkedIn article link here.
LIST OF THE WEEK: 21 CHARMING ROVER SALOONSThis week Andrew takes a major psychological step forward and agrees to have a list that covers Rover. He has refrained for all this time because the worst car he has ever owned was a Rover and it has left deep, deep scars. Check out the Classic & Sports Car article link and see which you would have.
AND FINALLY: ARTIST JAMES STEVENSJames takes classic and iconic moments in motorsport and others, but removes the background giving that moment even more pop and power. Check out this Classic & Sports Car article link to see more, including a link to his website. Wonderful work.
Motability
"And I'm going to start off with the news that Motability has decided to pause the Drive Smart scheme, which included a fitting and a device to the windscreen of cars, and either a black box or an app on your phone..."
Motability is a UK program that helps some people get access to a car. Here, they’re pausing a driving-monitoring scheme called “Drive Smart” that used equipment in the car to judge how someone drives.
Motability is a UK organization that helps eligible people access vehicles through government-backed support schemes. In this segment, Motability is pausing its “Drive Smart” program, which used in-car monitoring to assess driving behavior.
Drive Smart scheme
"Motability has decided to pause the Drive Smart scheme, which included a fitting and a device to the windscreen of cars, and either a black box or an app on your phone..."
“Drive Smart” is a program that tracks how you drive using a device in the car and sometimes a phone app. The idea is to score your driving, but the hosts say people felt the system could be wrong and they had little say or appeal.
The “Drive Smart” scheme is a Motability program that monitors driving using hardware fitted to the car (on the windscreen) and/or a phone app. It’s intended to judge driving behavior and determine whether a participant’s driving meets an expected standard, with limited ability to challenge incorrect data.
black box
"and either a black box or an app on your phone, if you are under the age of 30, to judge your driving and decide whether you will..."
A “black box” here means a device installed in the car that records driving information. The hosts are discussing it because it was used to judge driving, and people were worried about whether it was accurate and whether it respected privacy.
In this context, a “black box” is an in-car monitoring device that records driving-related data to evaluate driving behavior. Unlike a simple dashcam, it’s being used here as part of a decision system for eligibility/assessment, which raises concerns about accuracy and privacy.
loss of privacy
"where they were criticising and I'm quoting from the article here, unreliable technology, loss of privacy and lack of choice over signing up."
“Loss of privacy” means people felt the system was collecting more information than they were comfortable with. If your driving is monitored and used to judge you, it can feel like you don’t have control over your personal data.
“Loss of privacy” refers to concerns that the scheme’s monitoring devices/app collect personal or behavioral data about how someone drives. When that data is used to make decisions, participants may feel their information is being shared or used without adequate control or transparency.
lack of choice over signing up
"unreliable technology, loss of privacy and lack of choice over signing up. Quite right. Anyone that remembers this, we talked about it a couple of months ago..."
This means people felt they didn’t really have a real option to say yes or no. If the monitoring is required to participate, it can feel like you’re being forced into it rather than choosing it.
“Lack of choice over signing up” describes a situation where participants feel they can’t opt out or meaningfully control whether monitoring is used. In schemes like this, limited consent or limited alternatives can be especially contentious when the monitoring affects eligibility or outcomes.
Drive Smart develops
"Instead, it says it will continue to review it and setting up a panel of customers to help shape how Drive Smart develops. Let's see how that goes."
They’re saying they’ll keep improving the system based on feedback from customers. The goal is to make the monitoring less unfair and more accurate for the people using it.
This refers to the program being iterated based on feedback from a panel of customers, rather than being treated as fixed. In practice, it’s an attempt to improve the monitoring system’s accuracy and fairness by involving the people affected by it.
public V charging
"So we talked recently that there was a consultation on public V charging, and that many parts of the UK government were keen to see it be reduced to 5% value added tax or"
They’re talking about charging an electric car at public charging stations. The point here is that the government tax rules can change how expensive that public charging is.
“Public V charging” refers to charging an electric vehicle at public charging points (as opposed to charging at home). The “V” is being used as shorthand for “EV,” and the discussion is about how that public charging is taxed and priced.
VAT
"and that many parts of the UK government were keen to see it be reduced to 5% value added tax or sales tax in alignment with what you pay the amount of VAT that you pay on your home electricity."
VAT is the short name for value added tax. In this discussion, changing the VAT rate is meant to change how much public EV charging costs.
VAT is the abbreviation for value added tax, a broad tax applied to many purchases in the UK. The hosts focus on VAT’s impact on the price of public EV charging, comparing a proposed 5% rate to the current 20% rate.
value added tax
"and that many parts of the UK government were keen to see it be reduced to 5% value added tax or"
VAT is a tax added to goods and services that you pay when you buy something. Here, they’re debating whether VAT on public EV charging should be lower so charging costs less.
Value added tax (VAT) is a consumption tax added at each stage of production and sales, but it’s ultimately paid by the end customer. In this segment, the hosts discuss whether VAT on public EV charging should be reduced to lower the cost for drivers.
electric charge point operators
"And the Department of Transport encouraged electric charge point operators to write to the treasury explaining and promising what they would do if there was a VAT cut."
These are the businesses that operate the public charging stations you use for your electric car. They’re the ones who would likely adjust the price if taxes on charging changed.
Electric charge point operators (CPOs) are the companies that run and maintain public EV charging stations, including managing access, pricing, and uptime. The segment says they were encouraged to lobby the Treasury, promising they would pass any VAT savings on to customers.
grid
"And bearing in mind the pressure they're under, we've talked about this, the pressure they're under thanks to the grid and the changes in charging costs from the grid to these public charging companies, which has been horrific"
The grid is the national electricity system that powers homes and public chargers. If electricity prices from the grid go up, it can make running public EV charging more expensive.
In EV charging discussions, “the grid” refers to the electricity network that supplies power to charging stations. The hosts say changes in electricity costs from the grid have hurt public charging companies’ profitability.
zero emission vehicle adoption
"they understand that if we are to help keep the pace or increase the pace of zero emission vehicle adoption, particularly electric vehicles, then there has to be a level playing field."
This means getting more people to switch to cars that don’t produce exhaust fumes. They’re saying charging costs and taxes matter because they affect whether people can make the switch.
Zero emission vehicle adoption means getting more people to buy and use vehicles that produce no tailpipe emissions, primarily battery-electric cars in this context. The hosts argue that pricing and tax policy for charging needs to be fair to keep adoption moving.
public charging network
"fundamentalist evangelists are now admitting is that there is issues with the public charging network. And they realize because enough people have said it enough times that that is the stumble"
It’s the network of EV charging stations you can use in public, like at service stations or shopping areas. If you don’t have a charger at home, you rely on these a lot, so their price and reliability really affect your daily life.
A public charging network is the set of charging stations available to anyone in public places (not your own driveway). For EV owners, it matters because it determines how easy it is to charge while out and about, and how reliable and expensive those chargers are compared with home charging.
stumble block for mass adoption
"block form for mass adoption because so many people do not have a home charger, do not have the ability for home charging. One of the key points of that isn't so much reliability or access"
They’re talking about the biggest reason EVs aren’t becoming common fast enough. Here, the issue is that many people can’t charge at home, so they depend on public chargers instead.
This phrase is describing the main barrier preventing electric vehicles from being adopted by most people. In this segment, the host ties it to charging access—especially the fact that many people can’t charge at home—so public charging becomes essential for everyday use.
home charger
"because so many people do not have a home charger, do not have the ability for home charging. One of the key points of that isn't so much reliability or access"
A home charger is an EV plug-in setup where you live. It usually makes charging cheaper and easier than relying on public stations.
A home charger is an EV charging setup installed at your residence, typically allowing you to charge overnight. It’s a big deal because it usually costs less per mile than public charging and makes charging more convenient.
public charger
"It is significantly like many multiples of times more expensive to charge at a public charger than it is to charge on your driveway at home."
A public charger is where you charge your EV away from home. In this segment they’re saying it can cost a lot more than charging at home.
A public charger is an EV charging station you use outside your home, often at retail locations or along highways. The host emphasizes that public chargers can be much more expensive than charging at home, which affects EV running costs.
fuel duty cut
"the chancellor announced that in a raft of actions to help people thanks to what has happened in the Middle East and the increase in petrol and diesel prices, that the fuel duty cut will no longer happen in September as was expected."
A fuel duty cut means the government reduces a tax on petrol and diesel. That can lower the price at the pump, so it changes what it costs people to drive.
A fuel duty cut is a reduction in the tax charged on petrol and diesel. Changes to fuel duty can directly affect pump prices, which then influences how much people pay to drive and how quickly they might switch to alternatives like EVs.
home energy
"because such a large proportion of their income goes on these elements and like shopping, food shopping and stuff like that. They don't get the benefit of this 5P, that's if the petrol stations and the four courts pass it on, which"
They mean the cost of energy bills at home, like electricity. If electricity is expensive, charging an EV at home costs more too.
In this context, home energy refers to the cost of electricity (and possibly gas) used at home. For EV owners, electricity prices matter because they determine the cost of charging at home versus relying on public charging.
5P
"They don't get the benefit of this 5P, that's if the petrol stations and the four courts pass it on, which is another problem we've got at the moment."
“5P” means a small amount of money off fuel per litre (five pence). The host is saying you only benefit if the price cut actually shows up at the pump.
“5P” here refers to a five-pence-per-litre type of fuel price reduction being passed through to consumers. The host’s point is that the benefit may not reach drivers if petrol stations don’t fully pass it on.
stopping using their car
"what these people do is they end up just stopping using their car."
They’re saying when driving gets too expensive, some people just drive less or stop using their car. It’s a real-world effect of fuel and energy prices.
This describes a behavioral response to higher running costs: instead of paying more, some people reduce or stop driving. For EV adoption and public charging demand, that kind of cost pressure can change how often people use their vehicles and how they plan charging.
Stellantis
"Stellantis news next. Yay, they seem to have lots of news at the minute. I noticed that [586.0s] Ford and Volkswagen and everyone are quite quiet. Stellantis is generating news at a [592.5s] ridiculous rate."
Stellantis is a big car company that makes lots of different brands. Here, they’re talking about Stellantis making many announcements and teaming up with other companies to build cars in new places.
Stellantis is a major global automaker formed from the merger of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and PSA Group. In this segment, the hosts discuss Stellantis’ rapid stream of announcements, including partnerships and new production plans for different markets.
Dongfeng
"Chinese company Dongfeng, we talked about it last week, pairing up with Stellantis to build cars [619.5s] in China. Now, they have expanded that idea or done the flip of that, which is to build cars [626.9s] in France, and that's a surprising bit, because I would have expected them to farm out to Spain"
Dongfeng is a car company from China. In this episode, they say Dongfeng is working with Stellantis to build cars in France, not just in China.
Dongfeng is a Chinese automaker that partners with other companies to co-develop and manufacture vehicles. The hosts describe Dongfeng expanding its relationship with Stellantis by building cars in France, with a stated ownership split.
Volkswagen Opel
"this is in addition to the [644.2s] leap motor agreement, which means medium sized blobby cars and little tiny scary looking cars [650.2s] being sold by Volkswagen Opel already here."
Volkswagen and Opel are car brands that are already selling cars in Europe. The hosts are using them as a reference point for what’s already on sale.
Volkswagen and Opel are European car brands under the broader Volkswagen Group umbrella. The hosts mention them as examples of brands already selling small, distinctive-looking cars in the region.
joint venture
"this is in addition to the [644.2s] leap motor agreement, which means medium sized blobby cars and little tiny scary looking cars [650.2s] being sold by Volkswagen Opel already here. The joint venture in France will be 51% controlled [656.1s] by Stellantis, 49% by Dongfeng"
A joint venture is when two companies team up to build and run something together. In this case, they’re saying Stellantis and Dongfeng will share control of the France project.
A joint venture is a business arrangement where two companies create a new partnership and share ownership, investment, and decision-making. Here, the hosts describe a France-based joint venture with a 51%/49% control split between Stellantis and Dongfeng.
VOYAH
"and will focus on the voyeur brand, which I think is cars that [663.5s] sort of stand there and look at you in a funny way. It's about VOYAH. It is voy according to Google [670.4s] Translate."
VOYAH is a car brand name tied to the partnership they’re discussing. The hosts are basically saying this joint venture will focus on that brand.
VOYAH is an automotive brand associated with the Stellantis–Dongfeng partnership mentioned in the segment. The hosts describe it as a brand name that’s meant to feel distinctive, and they connect it to the planned France-based joint venture.
JLR
"this Jeep is co-developed by JLR and then going, what are you doing? So, it's a Jeep or one of the epoxy Land Rover things."
JLR stands for Jaguar Land Rover, a car company. If they’re co-developing a Jeep, it means the companies are working together to design or build the vehicle.
JLR is an acronym for Jaguar Land Rover, the British automaker group. When the hosts say a Jeep is co-developed by JLR, they’re describing a collaboration where two automakers share engineering work, platforms, or components.
electric cars are not a thing in America
"Yeah, I think the core idea is the same, but they've now finessed some elements now that electric cars are not a thing in America, thanks to certain changes in policy by government."
They’re saying that in the US, EVs weren’t taking off as quickly because of government policy. That kind of policy can change how soon car companies push electric models.
This phrase is about how government policy can affect whether electric vehicles (EVs) gain traction in a market. The hosts link it to policy changes, implying that incentives, taxes, or regulations can shift automakers’ timelines and product plans.
Citroen 2CV
"...comes to the year is going to be some form of new 2CV concept, which is one of the themes of e-car, sma..."
The Citroën 2CV is an older, simple car model that became famous for being practical and easy to live with. The podcast mentions it because there may be a new concept version planned, connected to electric-car ideas. It’s essentially a modern take on a classic name.
The Citroën 2CV is a long-running, lightweight, simple car known for its basic design and ability to handle rough roads. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because there’s talk of a new 2CV concept tied to electric-car themes. That makes it a notable reference point for how automakers use heritage names to shape future EV products.
retro design
"And just to be clear, in case anyone's in doubt, I'm not against retro design at all in any shape or form, not, not at all. I don't like it when it's a pastiche and it's not done well."
Retro design means a new car looks like it’s inspired by older cars. The host is saying it’s fine if it’s done tastefully, but not if it’s just copying the past without doing it properly.
Retro design is when a modern car intentionally borrows visual cues from older vehicles—like shapes, proportions, or styling details—to trigger nostalgia. The host distinguishes “retro design” from “pastiche,” arguing that retro can work when it’s done well, but looks cheap when it’s just imitation.
pastiche
"I don't like it when it's a pastiche and it's not done well. Anyway, fingers crossed with Stellantis, like we keep saying every week for the last month,"
In this context, “pastiche” means the design is basically a collage of old styling cues. The host is saying they don’t like when that nostalgia comes off as lazy or poorly executed.
“Pastiche” in car design criticism means a style that’s assembled from recognizable references, but without a cohesive or original execution. Here, the host uses it to criticize retro styling that feels like surface-level imitation rather than a thoughtful reinterpretation.
Audi
"other car brands were as stupid as the Audi My App story."
Audi is a car brand. The host is referencing a past example where an Audi app had security problems.
Audi is referenced as another car brand with a prior “My App” security story. The speaker is comparing other brands’ issues to Audi’s example, implying similar connected-app security weaknesses.
authentication
"with the talk he gave explaining how he first found vulnerabilities in Kia and Nissan in America with their apps and the vulnerability was again down to authentication"
Authentication is the “prove you’re allowed” part of an app. If it’s weak, the app might let the wrong person in.
Authentication is the security step that verifies a user or device is allowed to access something. In car app terms, it’s what should prevent someone from logging in or controlling vehicle functions without proper permission.
Kia
"explaining how he first found vulnerabilities in Kia and Nissan in America with their apps and the vulnerability was again down to authentication"
Kia is a car brand. The point here is that the Kia app security was part of a reported vulnerability.
Kia is a major automaker whose vehicles have connected-app features that can be targeted if the app’s security model is weak. In this segment, the speaker ties reported vulnerabilities to authentication and identifiers used by the app.
Nissan
"vulnerabilities in Kia and Nissan in America with their apps and the vulnerability was again down to authentication"
Nissan is a car brand. This part is saying Nissan’s app had security problems that let someone bypass access checks.
Nissan is an automaker whose connected vehicle apps can be vulnerable if authentication and identity checks aren’t implemented correctly. The segment specifically links the reported issues to authentication and the way identifiers like the VIN may be used.
VIN number
"and was for some of them, the VIN number, which is depressing."
The VIN number is like a car’s unique ID. If an app treats it as a “key” without strong checks, it can be abused.
The VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) is a unique 17-character code assigned to a specific vehicle. If the VIN is used too loosely as an identifier for app access, it can make it easier for attackers to target specific cars.
API
"He does simple things like in the API, when it says who is the user, he just changes it to dealer and then he gets access."
An API is the “messaging system” between the car app and the company’s servers. If someone can trick the server about who they are, they may get access they shouldn’t.
An API (Application Programming Interface) is the backend interface that apps use to request data or actions from a server. The transcript describes an example where changing a field in the API request (like the user identity) can incorrectly grant access.
security through obscurity
"Many of these types of systems relied for a long, long time on security through obscurity, [1079.3s] and all of a sudden, they weren't obscure anymore."
It’s when something is “kept safe” just because most people don’t know how it works. But if the secret gets out, it usually stops being safe.
“Security through obscurity” is the idea that a system is secure mainly because its details aren’t widely known. In practice, once attackers learn how it works, the protection often collapses quickly.
enterprise technology
"If I can put my enterprise nerd hat on, the thing is that like normal, proper enterprise technology, [1140.4s] the stuff used in these companies will all be governed by, will be written in accordance with frameworks"
Enterprise technology is the company’s internal computer systems and networks. The point here is that those systems usually follow stricter security rules than the teams building the product.
“Enterprise technology” means the IT systems used by a company at an organizational level (servers, internal networks, security processes). The speaker contrasts these more regulated systems with the vehicle/product teams that may skip formal security practices.
NIST
"People will be looking at NIST and security framework, you know, [1150.4s] other security frameworks and all this kind of stuff."
NIST is a government group that publishes cybersecurity “rules of thumb” and standards. Saying “look at NIST” means using established, proven security checklists.
NIST is the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology, which publishes widely used cybersecurity standards and guidance. When the speaker references NIST frameworks, they mean formal best-practice processes for securing systems.
internet of things
"So even your internet of things stuff to an extent, [1170.0s] shouldn't be in your corporate network, it won't be visible."
The internet of things is when everyday devices (including car electronics) are connected to networks. If they’re connected to the wrong network, they can create new security risks.
The “internet of things” (IoT) refers to connected devices—like vehicle systems—that communicate over networks. The speaker is arguing that IoT components shouldn’t be treated as fully isolated from corporate systems, because they can become part of the same attack surface.
Ferrari Luce
"Do you want to take us to Italy? [1415.1s] The Ferrari Luce. Today, the internet has been awash with opinions on the Ferrari Luce."
Ferrari Luce is a new Ferrari model that people are reacting to a lot online. The hosts say it looks a bit unusual—almost like it could be something Apple designed—rather than looking instantly like a classic Ferrari. That’s why it’s getting so much attention.
The Ferrari Luce is a new concept/production reveal from Ferrari, positioned as a design-forward model. The hosts discuss it as a polarizing shape that doesn’t immediately read as a traditional Ferrari, with comparisons to Apple-style branding and industrial design. It’s notable here because the episode focuses on public reaction and what the design communicates.
Love From Studio
"[1430.6s] Ferrari, which has been designed by the Love From Studio, which is founded by Johnny Ive [1435.9s] and Mark Newsom."
Love From Studio is the design team said to have worked on the Ferrari Luce. The hosts bring it up because they think the car’s styling feels similar to the kind of design you’d associate with Apple. That’s part of why people are debating how it looks.
Love From Studio is the design studio credited with designing the Ferrari Luce. The hosts connect it to the broader “From” design ecosystem associated with Apple’s design leadership, which is why the discussion keeps referencing Apple-like aesthetics. In this context, it matters because it explains the design philosophy behind the Luce’s look.
Johnny Ive
"[1430.6s] Ferrari, which has been designed by the Love From Studio, which is founded by Johnny Ive [1435.9s] and Mark Newsom."
Johnny Ive is mentioned as one of the founders of the design studio behind the Ferrari Luce. The hosts connect him to Apple-style design, which is why they say the car could look like what an “Apple car” might be. It’s basically a clue about who influenced the styling.
Johnny Ive is credited here as a founder of Love From Studio, the design studio behind the Ferrari Luce. He’s widely known for his role in shaping Apple’s product design direction, which is why the hosts compare the Luce to an “Apple car” look. In this segment, his name is used to frame the design influence behind the vehicle.
Mark Newsom
"[1430.6s] Ferrari, which has been designed by the Love From Studio, which is founded by Johnny Ive [1435.9s] and Mark Newsom."
Mark Newsom is mentioned as one of the founders of the design studio behind the Ferrari Luce. The hosts bring him up because the studio is linked to the same kind of design thinking people associate with Apple. That’s part of why the car’s look is getting so much debate.
Mark Newsom is named as a co-founder of Love From Studio, the design studio credited with designing the Ferrari Luce. The hosts use this to reinforce that the Luce’s styling comes from a design team associated with high-profile consumer tech aesthetics. That context helps explain why the car is being compared to Apple-like design language.
Apple
"[1472.9s] but then the rest of it doesn't really say Ferrari at all. And as many people have commented, [1478.2s] if it had Apple logos on it, it's probably what the Apple car would have looked like,"
Apple is used here as a comparison point for style. The hosts are basically saying the Ferrari Luce looks so different that it could be mistaken for something designed in an Apple-like aesthetic. That’s why people are talking about it so much.
Apple is referenced as a design benchmark: the hosts say that if the Ferrari Luce had Apple logos on it, it would look like what an “Apple car” might resemble. This isn’t a technical automotive claim, but it’s a meaningful cultural comparison that explains the design reaction the car is getting. It helps listeners understand the styling vibe being discussed.
over-fettled
"And that is a much better representation of the vehicle because it's real and it's not an over-fettled with image"
“Over-fettled” is basically the idea that something looks too overdone. They’re saying the real car looks better than the heavily edited picture.
“Over-fettled” here is used as a critique of styling that looks overly worked or excessively refined. The host’s contrast is between a more natural, real-world look versus heavily produced/edited imagery.
Audi RS5
"...es. The red one there, I think them fitting Lenzo RS5s as the wheels is quite a brave move on a 400,000 ..."
The Audi RS5 is a sporty Audi that’s designed to be faster and more performance-focused than a regular A5. People often talk about it when discussing upgrades like wheels and fitment. The podcast is referencing a particular wheel choice for an RS5.
The Audi RS5 is a high-performance version of the Audi A5, built for strong acceleration and sporty driving dynamics. It’s discussed in the podcast in the context of specific wheel fitment, which points to how owners customize and how fitment choices can affect clearance and overall setup. As an RS model, it’s also the kind of car that tends to draw attention for enthusiast modifications.
configurator
"I don't know. I've played with the configurator, I've looked at it, I've thought back and forth"
A configurator is an online tool (usually from a brand or dealer) that lets you choose options—like exterior color, wheels, and interior trim—to preview what a specific car would look like. The host says they “played with the configurator,” meaning they were exploring different builds and looks.
dynamism
"And therefore, it doesn't necessarily have the dynamism which automotive designers give to things as part of the design process, it's instilled in them."
“Dynamism” here means the car looks like it’s moving or full of energy, even while it’s sitting still. The host thinks automotive designers are better at creating that “speed” feeling.
In car design talk, “dynamism” means the visual impression of motion—how the shapes, lines, and proportions suggest speed and energy even when the car is parked. The host argues that automotive designers tend to build that sense of movement into the design process more than product/industrial designers do.
concentric
"Maybe they weren't sure the radio were all properly aligned. And concentric and consistent and all of these other things, which are nice."
“Concentric” means things are centered and lined up around the same middle point. They’re talking about careful alignment in design, like how rings or details match up.
“Concentric” describes parts or features that share the same center point, so they line up evenly. The host is using it as a design-quality example—like how well elements are aligned in a product—then contrasting that with what they expect from car design.
movable iPad
"it does. It looks even older even in situ with its weird movable iPad with a big aluminium handle"
The host is talking about a tablet screen in the dashboard that can move around. They’re comparing it to an iPad and saying it changes the car’s look in a way that doesn’t feel right for a classic performance brand.
A “movable iPad” refers to a tablet-style infotainment screen mounted so it can tilt or rotate, rather than being fixed in place. The host is using it as a design comparison to criticize how the interface looks and feels “Apple-like,” while implying it doesn’t match the brand’s traditional performance-car identity.
toggle switches
"I'm sure that those toggle switches will feel wonderful, but everything else that's around it looks weird"
Toggle switches are the physical buttons you flip or press in the car. The host likes them because they feel nice to use, instead of having to rely only on touchscreens.
Toggle switches are physical rocker-style controls used in a car’s cabin instead of relying entirely on touchscreens. The host is praising how these switches feel, implying a more tactile, “premium” interaction compared with purely digital controls.
1000 horsepower
"And the thing is that you can go out and buy 1000 horsepower. One can go out and buy 1000 horsepower 5 seat SUV from any number of providers."
Horsepower is how strongly a car’s engine can push. The host is saying that if you just chase huge numbers like 1,000 horsepower, lots of companies can do that now—so it doesn’t automatically make a Ferrari special.
“Horsepower” is a measure of engine power, and “1000 horsepower” is an extreme output level typically associated with hypercars or very high-performance variants. The host’s point is that raw power is no longer unique to Ferrari because other manufacturers can also sell vehicles with similar power figures.
hyper stuff
"unless you bought at least one of these things for 400,000 euros, then you ain't going to be allowed to buy any of the weird stuff or any of the hyper stuff"
“Hypercar” means an even more extreme, top-tier supercar—usually very expensive and built in tiny numbers. The host is saying the company doesn’t need to sell many to make the business work because the buyers are very wealthy.
“Hypercar” (here referenced as “hyper stuff”) is the enthusiast term for ultra-rare, ultra-high-performance cars that sit above supercars. The host is implying the brand’s strategy is to sell to extremely wealthy buyers, using these halo products to fund development.
R&D costs
"to do what needs to do to make you the money to at least recoup some of your R&D costs so that you"
R&D costs are the money companies spend to design and develop new technology and cars. The host is saying the company can cover those costs by selling a small number of very expensive models to wealthy customers.
R&D costs are the expenses a company spends on research and development—engineering, prototyping, testing, and new technology creation. The host is arguing that selling very expensive cars to a small number of ultra-rich customers helps recoup those R&D investments.
freedom doors
"Backdoor open suicide style of freedom doors. That's kind of cool. I like that."
“Freedom doors” is a name for a special door design that opens differently than normal doors. The host is saying it looks cool and unusual, like the car is trying to stand out.
“Freedom doors” is a marketing term for a door style that opens upward or outward in a dramatic way (often associated with gullwing/scissor-like designs). The host calls it “suicide style,” describing how the doors open in a way that looks unusual and attention-grabbing.
V8 rumble
"which is the Mercedes AMG GT that is all-electric and comes with a mere 1,169 brake horsepower and a V8 rumble."
Even though an EV doesn’t have a real V8 engine, some EVs use artificial sound to imitate the deep, aggressive “rumble” people associate with V8 cars.
“V8 rumble” refers to an audio effect meant to mimic the sound character of a V8 engine. On EVs, manufacturers often use synthesized sound to make the car feel more like a traditional performance model.
motors in the wheels
"The technology's fine. There's some clever stuff. Don't get me wrong, how they've done the motors in the wheels, that's really interesting. But it's not enough."
This means the electric motor is built into the wheel instead of being in the usual drivetrain area. It can help the car control grip, but the host says it doesn’t automatically make the car look good.
“Motors in the wheels” describes an in-wheel motor setup, where each wheel can be driven by its own electric motor. This can enable precise torque control and traction management, but the host argues that the visual/design package still matters more than the tech alone.
water dog's dinner
"It looks hideous in profile. It's just a water dog's dinner. Apps. I am gobsmacked that this got signed off, honestly."
That phrase is an insult meaning “it looks like a total mess.” The host is saying the car’s styling looks really bad.
“Water dog’s dinner” is a British idiom meaning something looks messy, mismatched, or unpleasant. Here it’s used as a harsh, humorous way to say the car’s styling doesn’t hang together visually.
Mercedes
"And the interior is just looks so cheap and nasty, as all Mercedes interiors do at the minute. If you scroll right down towards the bottom, then there is one in silver where the bit between the headlamps is in silver too, and it doesn't look as bad."
Mercedes is a major car brand known for luxury cars. The host is complaining that their recent interiors look low-quality and that the logo placement makes it worse.
Mercedes-Benz is referenced for its current interior design direction, which the host criticizes as looking cheap and nasty. The segment also mentions the brand’s three-pointed star emblem being used prominently, implying a design/branding choice that the host thinks hurts the overall look.
pin three-pointed stars
"But goodness, I hope the new head of design gets rid of putting the pin three-pointed stars on. Absolutely ruddy everything, because it's just so cheap and nasty."
Mercedes has a logo with a three-pointed star. The host thinks the way it’s used on the front design looks overdone and cheap.
The “three-pointed stars” refers to Mercedes-Benz’s signature emblem. The host is criticizing how the emblem is used as a design element (described as “putting the pin three-pointed stars on”), implying it’s overdone and makes the front-end look cheaper.
6e
"...eir latest offerings are not great. Primarily the 6E or the E6 is because of the fact that it's electr..."
The “6E” (or “E6”) is an electric car model mentioned in the podcast. The hosts are saying it hasn’t been very strong compared with expectations. The main takeaway is that it’s an EV and the discussion is about its overall quality.
In the podcast context, “6E” (also referred to as “E6”) is presented as one of the latest offerings from a manufacturer, but the discussion suggests it hasn’t been impressive. It’s brought up because the car is described as being primarily electric, and the conversation is focused on how well that EV approach is landing. Without more detail from the transcript, the key point is that it’s an EV model that’s been criticized in the news round-up.
platform
"platform it has to work off inhibits how much you can do with these things, and SUVs also inhibit, [2089.5s] et cetera..."
A “platform” is the underlying design the car is built on. For EVs, it affects where the battery goes and how the car is put together, which can limit or enable features and performance.
In EVs, a “platform” is the shared engineering base—things like the battery layout, mounting points, wiring architecture, and how the car’s systems are packaged. The hosts say the Epic is constrained or enabled by the platform it has to use, which affects what the car can realistically be.
Skoda Epic
"Why don't we go to the Skoda Epic, Andrew? [2099.2s] It's an electric SUV that's going to cost from £24,090, and it's the electric equivalent to the Skoda Kamiq..."
The Skoda Epic is a new Skoda electric SUV. It’s meant to be a smaller, cheaper EV, and it will come with different battery and power options. The episode also talks about how fast it charges and what tech/features you’ll get.
The Skoda Epic is an upcoming Skoda electric SUV positioned as a smaller, more affordable EV in the brand’s lineup. The hosts describe it as an electric SUV with two battery/motor options, and they compare its platform and pricing to other Volkswagen Group EVs.
Skoda Kamiq
"It's an electric SUV that's going to cost from £24,090, and it's the electric equivalent to the Skoda Kamiq that you'll be able to order it from July 2026..."
The Skoda Kamiq is a current Skoda model that the hosts use as a comparison point. They’re saying the Skoda Epic is the electric version of that kind of vehicle—so it’s aimed at the same general buyer and size category.
The Skoda Kamiq is referenced as the non-EV baseline that the Skoda Epic will mirror in size and positioning. In the episode, the Kamiq is used to explain what kind of “equivalent” the Epic is meant to be within Skoda’s lineup.
Volkswagen Id
"...t's based on the same platform as the forthcoming Volkswagen ID Cross, which will be a high-riding version of the..."
The ID. Buzz is a van that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s designed for carrying people and everyday use, but with an EV powertrain. The podcast mentions it because it uses the same underlying design as other upcoming electric Volkswagen models.
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an all-electric version of the classic Buzz/Transporter-style van, built to be a family-friendly people mover with modern EV technology. It’s often discussed because it signals how Volkswagen is applying its electric “ID” platform to practical, everyday vehicles rather than just sports or compact cars. In the podcast context, it’s also tied to the idea of shared platform engineering with upcoming crossovers.
ID.Cross Volkswagen Id Cross
"...t's based on the same platform as the forthcoming Volkswagen ID Cross, which will be a high-riding version of the ID Po..."
The ID.Cross is an upcoming electric Volkswagen crossover. “High-riding” means it’s designed to sit taller like an SUV, which can help with visibility and getting in and out. The podcast says it will use the same basic electric design as the ID. Buzz.
The Volkswagen ID.Cross is an upcoming high-riding electric crossover that the podcast says will be based on the same platform as the ID. Buzz. It’s significant because it shows Volkswagen extending its electric “ID” architecture into different body styles, including a more SUV-like stance. The discussion highlights platform sharing as a key reason these models are related.
Renault 4
"...rsion of the ID Polo. It will be a arrival to the Renault 4 E-TEC and the KIA Niro EV. There will be two diff..."
The Renault 4 CV is a new electric car concept that brings back the name of an older Renault model. It’s meant to be a small, simple EV, not a large vehicle. The podcast mentions it because it’s expected to compete with other new electric small cars.
The Renault 4 CV is a modern revival concept/name tied to Renault’s plan for a small, retro-inspired electric car. It’s significant because it’s positioned as an alternative within the EV small-car segment, and the podcast frames it alongside other upcoming electric models. The discussion highlights that Renault is aiming to bring back the “4 CV” identity while updating it for current EV expectations.
battery
"There will be two different versions at launch, as the Epic 40, [2150.3s] which has a 37 kWh battery and 135 hp electric motor, and the Epic 55..."
For an EV, the battery is what stores the electricity. A bigger battery usually means more driving range, and the episode compares two battery sizes for the Skoda Epic.
In EVs, the battery size (often quoted in kWh) strongly influences range and sometimes charging behavior. The hosts describe the Epic 40 with a 37 kWh battery and the Epic 55 with a 52 kWh pack, then link those to different range figures.
KIA Niro EV
"It will be a arrival to the Renault 4 E-TEC and the KIA Niro EV. There will be two different versions at launch..."
The Kia Niro EV is an existing electric model the hosts compare against. They’re using it to show that the Skoda Epic will be going up against cars people can already buy.
The KIA Niro EV is mentioned as another electric competitor in the same general size/role category as the Skoda Epic. The hosts use it to situate the Epic against established EV options rather than just other new launches.
e-Niro Niro Ev
"...l be a arrival to the Renault 4 E-TEC and the KIA Niro EV. There will be two different versions at launch, ..."
The e-Niro is an electric version of the Kia Niro. It’s a compact crossover, so it’s built for everyday driving and carrying people or cargo. The podcast mentions it alongside other new electric cars coming to the market.
The e-Niro is the electric version of the Kia Niro, designed as a compact crossover that’s meant to be efficient and practical for daily driving. The podcast groups it with other upcoming EVs, suggesting it’s part of the same broader market push toward new electric small crossovers. It’s discussed because it represents a mainstream approach to EV ownership—battery-electric, but still focused on everyday usability.
kWh
"as the Epic 40, [2150.3s] which has a 37 kWh battery and 135 hp electric motor, and the Epic 55..."
kWh is a way to measure how big the EV battery is. More kWh generally means the car can store more energy, which usually translates to more miles of range.
kWh (kilowatt-hours) is the unit used to measure EV battery capacity—how much energy the pack can store. In the episode, 37 kWh vs 52 kWh is used to explain why the Epic 40 and Epic 55 have very different range estimates.
range
"The Epic 40 will give you 190 miles of range, the Epic 55, [2165.3s] over 270 miles of range."
Range is how far an EV can drive before it needs charging again. The episode compares the Skoda Epic’s different versions by their estimated miles.
EV range is the estimated distance the car can travel on a full charge (or a specified charge window). The hosts criticize the Epic 40’s “190 miles” figure and compare it to the higher-capacity Epic 55’s “over 270 miles.”
10 to 80%
"What did I say wrong? Over £20,000 and you're not doing over 200 miles, [2172.6s] not good enough... Recharging the 55 from 10 to 80% [2178.1s] to take 25 minutes..."
“10 to 80%” is a typical way EV makers quote charging speed. It’s used because charging is usually faster in the middle of the battery’s state of charge, not right at empty or full.
“10 to 80%” is a common EV charging test window used to compare fast-charging performance. It avoids the slower charging behavior near 0% and near 100%, so it’s a more consistent way to talk about real-world charging times.
DC charger
"Recharging the 55 from 10 to 80% [2178.1s] to take 25 minutes on a DC charger that supports speeds of up to 105 kilowatts."
A DC charger is the fast charger you use for quicker EV charging. It can refill the battery much faster than home-style charging, and the episode mentions how long the Skoda Epic takes on one.
A DC charger is an electric vehicle fast-charging setup that sends direct current to the battery system, allowing much quicker top-ups than standard AC charging. The episode ties this to the Epic 55’s charging time and the charger power level it can accept.
kilowatts
"Recharging the 55 from 10 to 80% [2178.1s] to take 25 minutes on a DC charger that supports speeds of up to 105 kilowatts."
Kilowatts (kW) tell you how powerful a charger is. More kW usually means faster charging, but the car still has limits on how quickly it can take charge.
Kilowatts (kW) measure charging power. Higher kW generally means faster charging—though the car’s battery and charging curve still limit how quickly it can accept energy at different states of charge.
Digital instrument panel
"Standard equipment includes 18-inch alloys, LED headlamps, 19-inch central [2223.4s] and 13-inch three and a five-inch. Digital instrument panel, keyless start and rear parking sensors."
A digital instrument panel is the screen behind the steering wheel that shows your speed and other driving info. Instead of classic dials, it uses a display.
A digital instrument panel replaces traditional analog gauges with screens that can show speed, battery state, navigation, and driving information. The episode lists it as standard equipment on the Skoda Epic.
rear parking sensors
"Digital instrument panel, keyless start and rear parking [2228.2s] sensors. In the addition trim, you get electric folded door mirrors..."
Rear parking sensors are the little detectors that beep or warn you when something is close behind the car while you’re parking.
Rear parking sensors use ultrasonic or similar detection to alert you when objects are close while reversing. The episode lists them among the Skoda Epic’s standard equipment.
keyless start
"Digital instrument panel, keyless start and rear parking [2228.2s] sensors. In the addition trim, you get electric folded door mirrors..."
Keyless start means you can start the car without putting a key into the ignition. You usually keep the key fob in your pocket and press a button.
Keyless start lets you start the car without inserting a physical key, typically using a smart key and a push-button. The hosts mention it as part of the Skoda Epic’s standard equipment.
rear view camera
"heated and folding door mirrors, and satellite navigation front parking sensors rear view camera, [2238.64s] ..."
A rear view camera shows a live video feed of what’s behind the car. It makes reversing and parking easier because you can see obstacles you can’t easily check with mirrors.
A rear view camera displays what’s behind the car on a screen, helping with reversing and tight parking spaces. The hosts mention it as part of the Skoda Epic’s higher “addition” trim equipment.
heated front seats
"wireless smartphone charger, heated front seats and a heated steering wheel. That one will start"
Heated front seats warm you up while you’re driving. They’re mainly for cold weather comfort.
Heated front seats warm the seat cushions and/or backrests using electrical heating elements. They’re especially useful in winter and are often bundled with other cold-weather comfort features like a heated steering wheel.
wireless smartphone charger
"wireless smartphone charger, heated front seats and a heated steering wheel. That one will start"
This is a built-in charging spot where you can place your phone to charge it without plugging in a cable. It’s meant to be convenient while you’re driving.
A wireless smartphone charger is an in-car charging pad that powers a compatible phone without plugging in a cable. It’s typically based on inductive charging, and it’s often paired with other convenience tech like heated seats/steering for comfort.
heated steering wheel
"wireless smartphone charger, heated front seats and a heated steering wheel. That one will start"
A heated steering wheel warms up the part you hold while driving. It helps a lot in cold weather so your hands don’t get numb.
A heated steering wheel uses embedded heating elements to warm the wheel surface, improving comfort in cold weather. It’s a common premium feature on EVs and higher trims because it reduces the need for gloves and makes winter driving less unpleasant.
Skoda Epiq
"That one will start from £27,700. There will be a first edition available, only with a larger battery pack... and you get a Navajo orange exterior accents two-tone paint with a black roof."
Skoda Epiq is a new electric Skoda that the hosts are talking about in detail. They mention comfort features like heated seats and a heated steering wheel, and they also talk about the battery and how far it can drive on a charge.
Skoda Epiq is discussed as a new EV with a specific trim/launch setup, including heated front seats and a heated steering wheel. The hosts also call out its battery-pack sizing and range target (around 270 miles), plus exterior styling cues like two-tone paint and orange accents.
two-tone paint
"and you get a Navajo orange exterior accents two-tone paint with a black roof. 20-inch alloy wheels and a black first edition badge."
Two-tone paint means the car uses two different colors—often a contrasting roof and body. In this case, the hosts describe Navajo orange accents with a black roof, which is a styling technique used to make the car look more “cabin-like” and visually distinctive.
20-inch alloy wheels
"20-inch alloy wheels and a black first edition badge. Yeah, but that's a bit like the Fabia that they did."
These are bigger wheels—20 inches across—and they’re made from an alloy (usually aluminum). Bigger wheels can make the car look sportier, though they can affect ride comfort.
20-inch alloy wheels refer to wheel rims with a 20-inch diameter, typically made from an aluminum alloy. Larger wheels can change ride comfort and steering feel, and they’re often used on higher trims because they visually fill out the wheel arches more.
MG GT
"Yeah, definitely looks better than the MG GT. Something I could say that I'm just not going to, there's no point."
They bring up the MG GT to compare looks. The hosts are basically saying the Skoda Epiq’s design comes across better than the MG GT.
MG GT is mentioned as a visual comparison point, with the hosts saying the Skoda Epiq “looks better than the MG GT.” That suggests the discussion is partly about design/packaging choices—how the car’s proportions and color/trim styling land compared with a rival.
lightness of vehicles
"the core point of his message is about that whole lightness of vehicles, how people get trapped into thinking just one thing only... And he explains it through the medium of the defence industry and defence vehicles, but like I say, he also ties it back to road one."
They’re talking about the idea that making cars lighter can help them use energy more efficiently. The bigger point is that you shouldn’t get stuck thinking only one approach is always the answer.
The hosts discuss “lightness of vehicles” as an engineering and problem-solving principle: reducing mass can improve efficiency and help a vehicle do more with less energy. They frame it as a caution against getting fixated on one solution, using defence vehicles as an analogy before tying it back to road cars.
walk around
"And he offers to do a walk around of some of the [2399.4s] stuff with you, take him up on it."
A “walk around” is an in-person review where someone circles the car and points out details like bodywork, trim, and notable features. In enthusiast contexts, it’s often used to explain what’s original, what’s been modified, and what to look for.
1963 Rover P6
"Having said that, there is one that I really like the look of and the idea of, and that is the 1963 Rover P6. [2506.3s] I think they look amazing."
The Rover P6 is a classic British car from the 1960s. The hosts are saying that, even though they’ve disliked other Rovers, this particular one (a 1963) looks great and sounds like a really interesting choice.
The Rover P6 (here specifically a 1963 example) is a classic British saloon known for its elegant styling and strong road manners for its era. In this segment, the hosts also frame it as a standout “look and idea” car compared with other Rover models they’ve had bad experiences with.
British Citroen DS
"So the images and the text are an arrow to sync. But yes, I had chosen the P6 because [2526.5s] it is the British Citroen DS."
The Citroën DS is a well-known French classic car that people remember for being stylish and technologically impressive for its time. When the host says the Rover P6 is the “British Citroën DS,” they mean it feels like a similar kind of special, standout classic.
The Citroën DS is a famous French luxury saloon known for its advanced engineering and distinctive, futuristic design. Calling the Rover P6 the “British Citroën DS” is a comparison that suggests similar vibes—comfort, sophistication, and standout styling—rather than a literal mechanical relationship.
body panels
"It's all sorts of cool stuff like none of the body panels are stressed. So they can all you [2577.9s] could drive it around without the body panels fitted the whole crash structure, everything"
Body panels are the outer parts you see on the outside of the car. The host is saying the car’s exterior parts aren’t damaged, and the important safety structure is still there.
Body panels are the outer sheet-metal or composite parts that shape the car’s exterior. Here, the speaker notes that none of the body panels are “stressed,” implying the car’s structure is intact even if panels aren’t installed.
crash structure
"So they can all you [2577.9s] could drive it around without the body panels fitted the whole crash structure, everything [2583.3s] like that was one of the first kind of big commercially available cars with that kind of set"
The crash structure is the part of the car built to protect you in a crash. It’s the strong framework that helps control what happens to the car during impact.
A crash structure is the car’s engineered framework designed to absorb and manage impact energy in a collision. In the segment, the speaker highlights that the “whole crash structure” is present even without body panels fitted.
Mansel
"But it's where Mansel is driving along [2672.8s] and he's got someone else on board his F1 car. I think you'll find it. Is it not a Senna?"
The host is talking about a famous racing driver named Mansel. The artwork is showing an iconic moment from their time in an F1 car.
“Mansel” refers to a motorsport driver shown in the artwork—specifically, the host later asks if it’s “not a Senna,” implying the image is of a famous F1 moment. The segment treats Mansel as an iconic figure whose driving moment is being depicted.
Senna
"and he's got someone else on board his F1 car. I think you'll find it. Is it not a Senna? [2678.7s] Yeah, it will be Senna. And it's such an iconic moment."
Senna is Ayrton Senna, one of the most famous Formula 1 drivers ever. The host is saying the picture might be showing Senna in an iconic racing moment.
Senna refers to Ayrton Senna, the legendary Formula 1 driver. The host is discussing an artwork depicting an iconic F1 moment and suggests the passenger in the car might be Senna.
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