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I got given them to give to you.
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So I've got in front of me, I'll rattle them for the purposes of the audio.
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They're in that lovely plastic case, which you're familiar with, I'm sure.
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And I got gifted these.
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I must say a massive thank you to the lovely folks at Barn Finds UK on Instagram and on YouTube.
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They're lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely folks.
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And I bumped into, as UK Barn Finds, I bumped into them at the Silverstone Auction when I was doing my hurried walk around for the preview,
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which involved dodging lots of very loud race cars.
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And they said, oh, we really like listening to the podcast.
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And I was quite surprised by that, actually, just didn't expect them to be interested in such absolute tasks.
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And they said, I've got a small present for you, Rich.
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And I got a small corgi boxed maturancho.
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Lovely, lovely, always welcomed.
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And some more on that later.
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And you got top trumps.
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And it is, this is the thing that made me laugh.
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It's titled Fast Cars, Old and New.
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And then when I go into it, I immediately, this is not a visual, I'm sorry, but I'm just going to have to,
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I immediately took the cover car off and went, right, what have you got for me, Fast Cars, Old and New?
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I've got a Ford Mustang 2.
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Which has a 2.8 V6 with 110 horsepower.
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On premium gasoline.
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Yeah, so immediately, okay, Fast Cars, right.
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So I parked that one.
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And then we go, okay, what else are you going to throw at me?
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And you go, oh, okay, we've got, yeah, there's a Ferrari Dino in there.
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You know, that's quite a fast thing.
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Not the fastest Ferrari.
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Not the fastest, not the fastest.
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Then I got a Ford Thunderbird.
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And they said, I was like, I don't recall the Ford Thunderbird being regarded as a fast car.
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But it does have more power than the Mustang 2.
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It's got 340 horsepower, 6.3.
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But my toothbrush has more power than the Mustang 2, so this isn't really it.
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That's, this is a low bar they're setting.
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But let me guess, is it like the, you know, every top Trump's pack has that card that always wins because it's the best.
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It's, you know, it's the Tyrannosaurus Rex in the dinosaurs one.
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And we're at the Velociraptor.
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Anyway, you know what I mean.
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And there's, there's, I imagine sort of somewhere in that pack, then there's like a vector or something.
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Well, I'm looking through because this is quite old.
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You've got Mercedes-Benz Gullwing, 3.0-litre CSL Beamer, Maserati Mirac,
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Fiat 1500 Cabriolet.
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It's not a fast car, that.
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It's not a fast car.
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Although it's very hot.
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It's, it's only got 20 horsepower less than the Mustang 2.
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And yet it's obviously 1500 CC being called the 1500s.
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Cabriolet, isn't it amazing?
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This reminds me of when my mate Paul, he used to look across the road from me, was given top Trump's Britpop bands.
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Oh, but it was actually made clear on the packaging.
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It was Britpop bands, volume two.
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So they'd already done one set of Britpop bands.
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Now, there's not enough Britpops.
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No, how many cards are usually in a pack of top Trumps?
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Yeah, I mean, there's a stack here.
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I'm not going to count them because that's really dull.
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And it became very clear that they had exhausted all of the agreed Britpop bands in volume one.
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Volume two was the most random grab bag of stuff.
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It's like skunkin' Nancy and stuff.
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And you go, that's nothing wrong with skunkin' Nancy, but I would not call them a Britpop band.
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They were sort of close to Alan Partridge's.
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Oh, well, like, you know, like Britpop bands like Def Leppard.
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No, there's a Def Leppard.
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I've got, I'm just looking here.
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We've got a, we've got a Fiat 130 Coupe.
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Yes, a very boxy, handsome thing.
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Why did they not just throw the Mustang 2 in the bin and call it top Trump's lovely cars?
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Yes, sweet, sweet cars.
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Wouldn't it be that?
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So the premise is not about performance, handling any other prowess.
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It's just, do we think this is a sweet, sweet car?
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Actually, this gives me a thought.
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Who makes top Trumps?
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Are they a buzzness in their own right?
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Yeah, they are a buzzness.
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They're British, aren't they?
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Top Trumps is a British thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If, if anyone from top Trumps is listening and that can we do a Smith and Sniff top Trumps,
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which just cars that we like and you could have your mattress show in there.
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Oh yeah, sweet, sweet, sweet car.
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Yeah, other things that we're always mentioning for reasons we can't entirely explain.
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You know, Nissan 350Z or.
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Well, Hispano Suizes, you've got.
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I'm always mentioning those again, car, the Dita Marseille Pantera, whatever,
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but it'd be a random grab bag.
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So you never know what you're going to get next on your first play.
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I can tell you that they print top Trumps in St.
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Austel in Cornwall.
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I can tell you that.
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How do you know this?
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Because I've just found it out by going online and they make two point
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five million packs of the iconic car game every year.
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Interesting, isn't it?
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Yeah, that is interesting.
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Well, I mean, it feels like one of those things I'd say at the end of the show.
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That's interesting.
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Trumps is made in St. Austel.
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Didn't know that, but don't really need to either.
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I'm pretty sure it's produced.
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Well, I don't know any more than that.
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But I don't want to bore the listeners.
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But I used to have I've still got several old packs myself,
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which one day I'll share with you, Rich.
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But yeah, there's one.
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Actually, there's one here that interested me,
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which was the fact that the very old pre-war Mercedes compressors
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by Jove, they were powerful.
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They were serious contenders.
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No wonder people try and grab those for for historic racing
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and millimilia type activities.
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What are we talking?
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Well, we've got a 1927 Mercedes-Benz S compressor here,
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6.8 litre, six cylinder
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and obviously supercharged, hence the name, 180 horsepower.
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180 brake horsepower in 1927.
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That's astonishing.
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That's serious grunt, my friend.
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People say grunt much.
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It's what old people saying snazzy.
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Snazzy and souped up.
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Souped up, I forgot about souped up.
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But you know, there's one photo of another sort of pre-war German car,
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BMW 328, which again is
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a lovely looking, very swoopy thing.
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I'm slightly offended, though,
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because the photo that they've chosen of it,
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it's got the wheel, the front wheels turned
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pointing towards the camera operator,
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which means you can see a lot of gusset.
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Oh, is it showing a bit of skin?
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It's showing too much inner arch and
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and usually the inner arch is still got like mud in it
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because they haven't hosed it down properly.
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And that irritates the shit out of me
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when people photograph cars with the wheels like that,
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because it just it doesn't look right.
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It makes it look very, very weedy,
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even when it's quite a stocky, impressive car.
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Am I just being an effing pedant?
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No, you have to always tread carefully
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with a turned wheel in a photograph.
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I think it can actually make the car look worse
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and not more interesting.
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Can I just apologise if you can hear in the background
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some absolute pipe in my neighborhood
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has just started up a leaf blower, I think.
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Which is some is no good at all.
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Anyway, talking as we were about top trumps
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and comparing cars, it feels like a only slightly clunky segway
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into chatting about piston heads auctions.
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The sponsors of this episode of Smith and Sniff
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where you can debate who has chosen better.
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Shall I kick things off with my choice this month?
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Go on your you've got it.
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I've just I've just gone online to the auction page.
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Gosh, there's some there's some nice stuff
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which I'd like to talk about, but it ends kind of tonight.
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So that's not going to work.
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Well, yes, I had a little bit of a dilemma
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because when I looked at the stuff that's coming up,
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my eye was immediately drawn to a 2020 Porsche Cayman GT4.
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2020, 2020, 2020, 2020, which is in black.
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Now, the thing about those Cayman GT4s is,
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A, they're brilliant, but B, they sit so well.
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They have one of the best examples of stance
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that you can see in any car.
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And I was kind of drawn to that.
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But then also someone from piston has said,
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oh, that's the first GT4 we've had going through our auctions.
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So it's it's only got 10,000 miles on it as well.
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But anyway, I decided against that in the end
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because I was then distracted by something a little more classic,
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which is a 1979 Lotus Talbot Sunbeam.
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Oh, gosh, it's three material.
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Exactly. I've always had a thing about these.
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My dad used to be an Talbot man.
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And so yeah, I've spent some time in Talbot dealerships.
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I remember him bringing home
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there was a brochure for these cars, except it wasn't a brochure.
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I think it was a bit pamphlety, but A4 sized.
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Yeah, he brought one home and it was there was something
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extremely exotic about this ordinary hatchback
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that had been given the Lotus treatment.
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So I've always had a bit of a thing.
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This particular car, it's black, but with the silver
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band around the middle as they all have.
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Yeah. Gosh, it's good.
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It's a pre facelift one with a slightly sort of inset headlights,
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which I think I actually prefer.
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I prefer. Yeah, I do.
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So yeah, it's because obviously these cars, they were crisis,
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then they were Talbots and then they had a facelift.
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And they had a sort of fairly short, but also
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confusingly different variations happened within that life.
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Also, the way they were built was brilliantly complicated as well
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because they built whole sunbeams in GLS spec
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in the factory in Scotland.
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Is it Linwood? Linwood?
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And then they beefed up the front strut towers, I think,
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and added a thicker anti-roll bar and various other bits of
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different suspension.
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But then each car was stuck on a truck with no engine or gearbox
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shipped down to a Lotus facility, not at Hethlis,
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on the other side of Norwich.
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They set up a special place where the cars then had their engine
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and gearbox fitted because it was the Lotus
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2.2. It was a 2.2, wasn't it?
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I totally forgot it was a 2.2.
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I knew it was like 65 slant four, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. I didn't know it was 2.2.
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Well, in the late 70s, very futuristic.
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And then the final bit of the sort of production process,
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they were shipped to Chrysler slash Talbots facility
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in Coventry to have a final quality control inspection.
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And then they were sent out to dealerships.
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So they had this very convoluted production process.
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But the end result was fantastic, in my view.
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This particular car, it has about 73,000 miles on it
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and it's been completely restored.
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So the whole thing has has been spanked.
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I'm looking through pics.
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And I absolutely I'm loving this thing.
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I think it's great.
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They were saying was so much more powerful than I remember.
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Well, 150 horsepower is stock.
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Now, this one because it's had a seaman
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who people know rebuilt these engines.
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It had a seaman engine rebuilt 15 years ago
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with the add says new and uprated parts, including 420 lift cams,
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ported and flowed head steel buckets, big bore manifold and exhaust
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caused with pistons and a fully balanced bottom end.
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That thing's going to fly.
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It's claiming 220 horsepower.
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Yeah, which I mean, the thing is
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it doesn't weigh anything. No.
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So that is going to be, I think, it will feel really fast.
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Five speed ZF box on it, which is lovely, which is lovely.
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Rear wheel drive, of course.
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So, you know, they are they are skiddy, if you want them to be, I imagine.
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Yeah, which is dampers on the front adjustable gas dampers at the back.
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It feels like it's been set up for fun.
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It's not totally original.
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It's got Alfa Romeo seats in it for some reason.
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I saw that. I bet they're 156 seats, which are just those glorious
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is it Momo Momo seats?
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I think Momo made those seats for Alfa.
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They're really good seats.
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So the greatest scrapyard find seat out there.
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They've got that sort of ribbed.
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Yes, they look classic panels.
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Anyone wants to put a seat in a classic car and not look too shit.
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The Alfa six seat is a great, great seat.
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Yeah, they are sort of modernish alpha because they've got a plastic
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release handle on the sort of top shoulder that tips them forward.
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So they're definitely not, you know, oldie alpha seats.
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But they're in pale leather.
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And then the door cards and everything are trimmed accordingly.
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It doesn't. Yeah, it's cool.
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You almost believe it's factory.
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So that's all good.
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Oh, my God. Exactly.
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Yeah. And it's got the instruments have been refurbed as part of the restoration.
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It's been given a rally work spec rev counter, which goes up to 10,000,
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which is a sweet little touch, I guess.
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And so, yeah, I've no idea what this will go for,
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because they are actually rather sought after nowadays, aren't they?
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And they do go once they were not exposed that valuable,
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but because they just became a bit unfashionable.
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But now people have realized they are, in fact, brilliant.
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So I think, you know, this
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this is quite an interesting prospect, but also because it's not totally original.
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It's like it's not been babied.
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So you could use it.
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But also knowing that someone's gone through it and sort of fixed it up
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and made it look nice, but it's not.
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Yeah, it's not a total sort of museum quality, as people say.
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With the old split split room
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and compromotives on it.
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So I love these anyway, because they're they're they're a shortened Avenger,
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basically, aren't they?
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That's what the chassis always was.
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It was an Avenger made better for rally and
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and turned into a hatchback.
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And so this was one of the latter
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rally car, rear wheel drive rally cars to win a WRC, I'm sure.
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There's only, I think, the O37 after this.
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Yeah. So these things were proper, proper little heroes
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and still a fraction of the money of a hot escort.
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Oh, yeah. And that's why I've always had a thing for these.
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And you and I, we've we've done the Roots Group thing, the chat in the past.
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We have a bit of Roots Group worship, family background.
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So I would I would love a hot tub or something.
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And this one, it's it's my era.
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It's very much my own.
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Well, so that's a good contender, Richard.
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I like it. OK, I like it very much.
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I will I'm just going to do special mention to the fact that there was
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well, there's two cars, which the oceans will still be alive
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when listeners tune into this on Monday.
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One of them is a Jag XFRS, which we both love.
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An unbelievably good car and fast car.
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There's one of those that is still on up for auction.
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So 2014 car with just over 100,000 miles.
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But I wanted to mention the Volvo V70
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Polestar from 2015, that's that ends on Wednesday at eight p.m.
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So you have time to go and sniff around it and register and put a bid in.
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Yeah, what did I say?
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Oh, V 70. Oh, anus.
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Sorry. So yes, it's a sleeker sleeker one.
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It is a sleeker smaller one.
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Yeah, still in the the typical cyan is a cyan yellow.
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I think it's called blue.
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Oh, my gosh, what am I doing?
22:36
It's because I'm thinking of the Sweden flag.
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This wasn't the colour blindness.
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This was a no, I can't blame it on that.
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No, I was thinking of the memory.
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I was looking at the car and thinking of the Swedish flag.
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I've only just realized is that why that Volvo blue is that?
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Hang on, is the Swedish flag that blue?
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I can't think. I don't think I think it's an artistic interpretation of unrelated.
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Yeah, anyway, so it's definitely a V 60 Polestar
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and it's definitely cyan blue and it's a very, very seldom seen car.
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This is done to forty seven and a half thousand miles.
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It's over 400 horsepower from the old three litre six cylinder.
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This is a two previous owner thing.
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It's full stainless exhaust.
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This thing has extensive stage two related upgrades.
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What I love about it is the fact that piss and heads of kindly quoted
23:30
Smith and sniff in the particulars of this of this car.
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I'm just scrolling down because the as usual, the description is extensive.
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In the summary, which is right at the bottom,
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this car is an exquisite example of the mark.
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In the words of Smith and sniff, you'd be hard pushed to find another.
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I think Seranoff would would probably give you a pat on the back for this
23:58
If you were trying, if you were wanting one of these,
24:01
it would not be an easy car to find.
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But the fact this thing's dyno to over four four hundred horsepower.
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The current owner's done thirty two thousand miles over six hundred and
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seventy newton meter torque.
24:15
So these work. Let me get this right.
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I'm trying to remember. They were restricted in amount of cars built.
24:21
I think seven fifty were built of those one hundred and twenty five were U.K.
24:28
cars and then most of them were in this blue,
24:33
but you didn't have to pick it in the blue.
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I don't think, but it's the one that you'd want to a bit like escort.
24:41
No, Focus RS people always want the blue, the blue ones, don't they?
24:46
But this thing, yeah, I remember driving one of these for fifth gear.
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I'm sure. I'm sure I drove one for fifth gear.
24:55
I might have even gone over to Sweden to actually do it somewhere.
24:59
Buried on the internet. There'll be a video.
25:01
But now I think this is cool.
25:03
It's currently bid as we see it with six days left as seven grand.
25:07
Don't know what these are worth because I haven't looked lately.
25:11
But well, they just don't come up very much.
25:13
No, do they? Because they're so few.
25:14
So it really is a proper Saranov territory.
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It is. And it's got the adjustable
25:19
Olin suspension, which on its own is probably worth about 60 grand.
25:23
So just buy the car, take the Olin suspension off and then weigh it in.
25:26
There you go. You made some money on it, probably.
25:29
Easy car buying advice from Smith and Sniff.
25:32
Yeah, I think this is great.
25:33
But the XFR is also lemon sexy.
25:37
In fact, this is the this is the problem.
25:40
You see you see another one, then you see another one.
25:42
We've seen this BMW 325 convertible, which.
25:48
How many cars are you picking this?
25:49
Well, I don't know.
25:50
It's like you're cheating.
25:51
I'm just I am being a bit of a naughty swine.
25:53
It's because, you know, why?
25:54
Look how leafy the backdrop is for the 1988 325 I convertible E30.
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It's home counties, village green.
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The top is down and it reminds you of how damn good the convertible
26:11
of the E30 is. It's that lovely flat deck.
26:13
Such a sweet, sweet shape.
26:15
This is a pre facelift one as well, which.
26:18
They're sort of the the the rear lights on the facelifted E30.
26:23
I like them, but they are a bit sort of blocky, aren't they?
26:26
And there's something sort of a little bit more pure
26:29
and elegant about the pre facelift lights, particularly on the Cabrio,
26:32
because it's such a sweet, sweet and simple shape.
26:36
It's I think it because it doesn't look very motorsporty.
26:40
It just looks handsome and Germanic.
26:43
And that's why I think it's fine that it's an automatic
26:48
because they weren't bad autos.
26:50
Anyway, it's not like the autos were an awful box.
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They were are they are they a ZF on this?
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I think there is a thought. So yeah, yeah, four speed.
26:58
And three to five is the one that it sounds more powerful than it really is.
27:04
They've got that sort of hollow, but basic exhaust note.
27:09
I'm glad you described it like that
27:10
because I don't think I could have done it better.
27:12
That there's the best exhaust note, so I can hear that car.
27:17
It's if there is a noise and also with the auto.
27:20
I don't think the auto is a problem because it's a cruiser, isn't it?
27:25
And you could that top down.
27:29
One hundred and seventy horses by it now.
27:31
Tuck it away for winter next summer.
27:34
You've forgotten you bought it.
27:35
You open the garage and go, oh, look at that.
27:37
I've got a summer cruiser ready to go.
27:41
And look, it was the look the radio was replaced last year
27:45
with an age appropriate Blaupunk Bluetooth unit
27:47
and the hounds tooth, the dog's tooth, hound dog tooth,
27:51
dog ain't nothing but a hound dog tooth.
27:56
Being sat on all the time.
27:57
Yes, minimal wear or sag.
28:01
That's what it says.
28:02
So I I've got I've got time for this
28:05
and that's why we're talking about it
28:06
on the piston heads.
28:07
So this is your choice.
28:09
OK, yes, I think I'll go for E30,
28:12
but I'd like people to also doff their cap to the V60 Polestar.
28:19
And yeah, just just go on there and have a look at that.
28:22
There's some sweet treats, darling.
28:24
There are. All right.
28:28
If you care to, pistonheads.com forward slash Smith and sniff.
28:32
Is it my 1979 Lotus Tolbert Sunbeam
28:36
or Johnny's 1988 BMW 325i convertible?
28:42
Both, I would say, modern classics.
28:45
But go to pistonheads.com and have a look at the auctions.
28:48
They've got all sorts of stuff on there.
28:50
The BMW, by the way, the auction started on Sunday, the seventh.
28:54
So that will be running for a week.
28:57
The if you listen to this on the Monday that the podcast comes out,
28:59
the Lotus Sunbeam doesn't start until Wednesday.
29:03
So plenty of time to look down the back of the sofa.
29:06
Find some money to buy it.
29:13
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29:18
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I'm still looking at the pollster.
30:33
Would you call it a pollster or a pollster?
30:36
I think we established it a while ago
30:39
that it's a pollester.
30:40
And we will brook no arguments on this
30:43
until it's old otherwise.
30:46
Anyway, can I change subject a little bit?
30:51
I wanted to mention something I saw just the other day.
30:55
For years people have complained about front fog light bell ends.
31:01
And I think I feel like front fog light bell ends
31:04
have gone away a bit.
31:05
And it might be because front fogs
31:07
have become less of a thing.
31:08
They're not sort of a fashionable way of showing
31:11
you've got a higher trim level the way they used to be.
31:14
But there may be a new type of bell end
31:17
to take their place.
31:19
And it's the roof light knob head.
31:23
Have you seen on typically this will
31:25
be on a new defender or a Ford Ranger?
31:30
Aftermarket LED spot thing.
31:33
Do they not do the defender not have factory?
31:35
Defender has those.
31:36
Defender has that pod that was an option or is an option perhaps.
31:41
That has two kind of eyebrows which are quite discreet.
31:44
They mold it in, aren't they?
31:46
Yeah, I think that's factory, isn't it?
31:48
But yeah, and I don't know about the Ranger,
31:49
but certainly there's loads of aftermarket ones.
31:52
And there is in most cases, I would say,
31:56
absolutely no fucking need.
31:59
But people spec them all the same.
32:01
I was on the M4 the other day in the lashing rain.
32:06
And I saw going the other way someone in a new defender
32:11
and they had got their roof lights on.
32:16
And I just thought, now look, it's not, it was rainy,
32:18
but it was daytime.
32:19
So your lights are on so other people can see your car.
32:23
You don't need to see the way.
32:24
It's not that dark or a tropical rainstormy.
32:29
And all you're doing is blinding people
32:32
in their rear view mirrors in already challenging conditions.
32:36
You are an absolute sleeve.
32:38
Yeah, this is, it's not acceptable.
32:41
It's not acceptable at all.
32:43
I think if it was thick fog or you were in,
32:48
I don't know, a very rural nighttime part of Finland.
32:52
Yes, it's absolutely.
32:57
But that's because you're not being inconsiderate to others.
32:59
You are, in fact, trying to try to get away.
33:03
Trying to get home safe or going into a tree.
33:06
Totally legit use of those lights.
33:08
That's why they exist.
33:10
On the M4 just near Chippenham because it's raining a bit.
33:14
No, you're being a prick.
33:17
I just wanted to put that out there.
33:19
But that's, I think the front fog is sort of not really a thing
33:22
anymore, but it's absolute arsewitz have found a new way
33:28
We've had a little letter from a chap called Simon Daniels
33:31
who answered my question the other week
33:35
about sweet, sweet 1960s monologue.
33:41
And he actually sent us a suggestion for the monologue.
33:47
I can't decide whether he's totally made it up
33:49
or whether it was based on some truth.
33:51
Would you mind if I would read this to you?
33:59
As a consequence of building peer pressure
34:01
as well as approaching a very significant birthday milestone,
34:06
I finally decided to put pen to paper
34:08
and document my early life with a particular focus
34:10
on what I affectionately call my sweet, sweet 60s
34:15
Both Dorian and I had thoroughly workshopped this title
34:18
as authors tend to do nowadays,
34:21
rejecting the more obvious epithets
34:23
such as Confessions Over 60s Aesthetic
34:26
or Confessions Over 60s Person
34:30
or Soho Snob's and Brighton Yob's.
34:32
Anyway, the excerpt I've chosen, I think,
34:35
clarifies my life on the fringes of both
34:38
and the Soho and Brighton scenes,
34:40
which is, frankly, a confession of sorts
34:44
for just a smidge of danger.
34:46
Anyway, I hope you enjoy it.
34:47
Chapter one, Our Western Adventures.
34:51
It was the summer of 63,
34:53
which after quite possibly the worst
34:55
and most severe winter on record,
34:58
was a welcome tonic for both mind and for body.
35:02
Dorian Bilbrie, a lifelong chairman or automotive diva,
35:06
had just been given.
35:09
Oh, had just given me his pristine Laguna Beige Mini Cooper
35:13
with Houndstooth Interior as a 30th birthday present.
35:17
I think the Houndstooth with Dorie's idea
35:20
as he purchased most of his country attire
35:23
from the blissfully elegant Huntsman boutique on Savoreau.
35:28
I can't tell if this is made up or not.
35:32
That's why I, that's what I said.
35:35
Anyway, July rolled around,
35:37
brimming with whimsy and glorious possibilities.
35:40
So he decided to forego unusual Brighton Coastal Retreat
35:44
in favor of a trip to see our friends, Oscar St. Vuiz,
35:49
who had a delighted appointed,
35:51
delightfully appointed,
35:53
faux castle overlooking Western super mayor.
35:56
He said he'd given all his staff the week off
36:00
so we could have it to ourselves.
36:02
I accepted with the provisor that Oscar would have
36:05
to play the role of tour guide par excellence for the week.
36:09
And so Dorie and I set off for the wilds of Worston.
36:12
Dorie resplendent in his three piece
36:14
Conker Brown Houndstooth Hunting Ensemble.
36:18
And yours truly in a rather fetching peacock print,
36:21
silk smoking jacket, courtesy of the Beatnik Parisian
36:24
left bank designer, John Stephen,
36:28
He said, oh, dude, open this kind of street branch
36:33
in the late fifties.
36:35
Of course, Watson, our age, but devoted Irish Wolfhound,
36:39
commandeered the back seat and made an excellent third
36:42
as we trundled our way through glorious Middle England
36:45
towards sunny Western.
36:46
The journey itself was fairly uneventful,
36:48
save for a mildly distracting incident
36:50
in the car park of the dog and trumpet public house,
36:53
where Watson took a shine to a bewitching Irish setter
36:58
I was forced to separate them mid-exchange
37:05
With a metal shoehorn and a lit, rolled up copy
37:10
No serious damage was done, though.
37:12
We arrived at Castle Vue's, around three,
37:15
and sadly consumed most of the Fortnum soma hamper.
37:19
Meant, oh, and had consumed most of the Fortnum soma hamper
37:24
meant as a thank you gift for Oscar.
37:26
I must say the quail's eggs, souffle,
37:28
and black truffle ravioli were the standout dishes
37:33
Oscar met us with him.
37:35
Met us by lifting his poor, Oscar met us
37:40
by lifting his poor colours.
37:41
He was wearing a bright and very shiny suit of, again,
37:46
caught armour, carrying his trusty mace.
37:49
I knew it was him by his left-sided limp.
37:53
An injury he'd sustained trying to shoe
37:55
a sleeping horse to him.
38:04
Shoe is sleeping horse.
38:08
Do you think he's fresh a year at Eaton?
38:14
That's just ridiculous.
38:16
I've just realised I'm only a third of the way through.
38:19
Oh, my God. This might have to be a three-months.
38:22
Ah, well, there we go.
38:25
I'll end it by just saying,
38:27
his choice of rooms was exquisite.
38:29
Dory had the Culloden suite,
38:31
and I was ensconced in the Getty Berg Room.
38:34
My Oscar, he loved his battles.
38:36
Fortified with an excellent breakfast of jelly deals
38:39
smoked havoc and fluffy kegery,
38:41
we set about exploring the delights of Western Supermaire.
38:45
And that's where I will end it.
38:47
We will find out more about what happened in Western Supermaire.
38:51
Wow. Very, very soon.
38:54
I still can't work out how frictionless it is.
38:57
Sort of hope not, but...
38:59
Simon Daniels, this was...
39:01
This took you a while to write.
39:06
It gets good. It gets good on the beach of Western Supermaire.
39:09
Well, there we go. This is to be continued.
39:11
Yeah. We'll have to do a previously un-60s man.
39:15
Since we're reading out listeners' messages,
39:17
I wanted to do a quick shite-out from two listeners
39:22
who've written together.
39:23
They say, on that side of things,
39:25
we hope you don't mind us asking,
39:27
but it is our amazing daddy, Dave's birthday
39:30
on the 2nd of September.
39:31
Sorry, we have overshot that, but retrospectively,
39:36
happy birthday, Dave.
39:38
They say he's going to be 50 years old.
39:40
He's the best dad anyone could wish for,
39:42
and we love him very much.
39:44
Please, could you wish him an extremely happy birthday?
39:47
Well, there we go. Happy birthday, Dave.
39:49
Happy 50th. It's a good age to be.
39:51
We listen to your podcasts whenever we go on a road trip,
39:53
and the whole family own a Smith & Sniff t-shirt.
39:57
We find you very funny, you SSGs,
39:59
but we are definitely not allowed to repeat what we hear.
40:03
Please keep up the amazing podcast,
40:05
you're part of the family, Azura & Mahari, age 12 and 8.
40:11
Well, they say, P.S., look at our names.
40:15
Yeah, Mahari, Azura.
40:18
I presume this was not snuck through by Dave.
40:22
I've always liked Mahari.
40:24
Isn't that a plastic-bodied 2CV thing?
40:26
No, no, just like it.
40:27
It is a good name, isn't it?
40:29
It is a great name.
40:30
Well, Azura & Mahari, thank you for writing it.
40:32
That was really sweet, and a happy birthday belatedly to Dave.
40:38
I was going to read something out
40:41
that's definitely not as long as what I read out before
40:44
by somebody called Simon Carroll,
40:46
who I think is from New Zealand.
40:51
He's put here, I was perusing New Zealand's
40:54
almost direct copy of eBay called Trade Me,
40:57
looking for a suitable motorbike for my seven-year-old.
41:00
Seven, I don't know why I said it like that,
41:02
for my seven-year-old.
41:06
Well, I came across the following.
41:08
A Suzuki DRZ70, listed for a mere $2,200.
41:13
I read the description
41:14
and we're looking for further information
41:16
in the questions section of this ad,
41:19
a feature that eBay doesn't have yet, I believe.
41:22
I stumbled upon perhaps the most bizarre way of admitting
41:25
to be a gentleman from a certain generation
41:29
without openly admitting to have been old enough
41:33
to go on a seven-day road trip for a spot of tea in the 60s.
41:37
The chap opens his question on this children's motorcycle
41:41
by asking if it would be appropriate
41:43
for his ethnic farm worker who was in his 40s
41:47
to be able to ride it.
41:48
He then goes on to describe his worker's abilities
41:51
as unable to use a clutch,
41:53
keeps crashing and falls off a lot.
41:56
And he's sent me the screenshots of it
41:58
and it's unbelievable.
41:59
And there's a photo of it.
42:00
So it's a very, very small,
42:03
yellow little Suzuki kids' field bike.
42:07
And the reply is just, sorry, it's a kids' bike.
42:10
So, just wasn't expecting that.
42:13
The language there in the question leads me to believe
42:16
that this man wears a pith helmet
42:18
or at least one of those rich man Pebble Beach hats,
42:23
and is a bit sort of Wendon's Ambowee.
42:26
But the new Swedish version of a bit, a lot.
42:29
A bit, a bit of Wendon's Ambowee.
42:34
I just can't believe the stuff that we get sent in.
42:38
It's just taken me, thanks for that Simon,
42:40
thanks for listening from the other side of the actual world.
42:45
Here's one just to lodge in the brain,
42:47
since we're in letters corner.
42:50
It's from a listener called Doug.
42:51
Now in the past, I think we've acknowledged that
42:54
all Mark I but facelifted Mondeos
42:58
have a rear bumper held together with gaffer tape.
43:01
All K12 micros seem to have
43:04
a sort of perfectly hemispherical dent
43:07
in the rear bumper.
43:08
All Mark I cashkis have the rear number plate finisher
43:12
where the light lives falling off
43:14
and often held on with gaffer tape.
43:17
These things we know.
43:19
Doug has observed a new one,
43:22
which he invites us to try and spot.
43:27
He says, following a dismal attempt
43:29
to contact you on Instagram about this issue.
43:31
Well, don't, there's a general rule,
43:32
don't try and contact us on Instagram
43:34
because it's a hellscape of private messages
43:36
and often they're just junk, aren't they?
43:39
It's just, we can't, we can't organize them
43:42
and we can't log them and catalog them.
43:44
It's just, it's just a mess.
43:46
So, that's why sorry, Doug and everyone else
43:49
but he says, I'm not trying the email approach.
43:52
I need answers to cut to the chase.
43:56
Almost every brackets 80% plus,
43:59
generation one Honda Jazz I come across
44:02
has a dented boot lid.
44:04
Once you've noticed this,
44:05
you will not be able to unsee it.
44:08
Though admittedly, most early jazzes look like
44:10
they've been recovered from the seabed.
44:12
There are occasional de-cherished to deceased spec examples
44:15
that are wearing well,
44:17
but these two all seem to have a dented boot lid.
44:20
I've even come up with a theory
44:22
about the magnification of the rear view mirror
44:24
making things look further away than they really are.
44:27
Please check this out for yourselves and report back.
44:29
I would truly appreciate it
44:30
if your listeners could explain this phenomenon
44:33
as it is consuming more of my thoughts than it should.
44:36
My wife would probably appreciate me
44:38
be able to conclude this matter too.
44:43
I've not noticed this.
44:46
I need to find some jazzes.
44:47
Well, I mean, they are everywhere.
44:49
Once you, like Mark I, Yaris' eyes,
44:51
they are everywhere once you realize.
44:54
They're just sort of like lamp posts.
44:57
You don't really clock they're there
44:58
until you make a concerted effort to look at them.
45:00
And you go, God, they're fucking everywhere
45:03
I will report back,
45:04
but also if listeners have anything to add to that,
45:07
that is quite an interesting homework assignment for everyone.
45:11
You know, that song, The Joker by Steve Miliband.
45:16
Which is one of my favorite songs.
45:21
I might have it played at my funeral.
45:23
I haven't decided yet.
45:24
Oh, that's interesting.
45:26
Yeah, well, maybe it's not, but I don't know.
45:31
But you know, it says, I'm a Joker.
45:35
I'm a midnight toker.
45:38
I keep thinking about the touring car organization.
45:42
And I wonder whether or not,
45:43
is he one of those guys who is about to go to bed
45:50
and then goes on to one of those random sport channels
45:53
on TV and goes, oh, hang on a minute.
45:56
There's Australian touring cars that just started the race.
46:01
Oh, I could probably, oh, I might crack another cannon.
46:04
What do you think of that?
46:06
And before you know it, it's four in the morning
46:10
and you don't really know what you're watching,
46:13
but you're watching it anyway.
46:15
I think Night Toker.
46:16
I'd never thought about that.
46:17
Because do you remember that song by Fragma,
46:21
I always thought that was about touring cars.
46:24
It was like touring cars, Miracle.
46:26
That touring car Miracle.
46:30
John Clellan's Cavalier is still going,
46:32
even though it's bumped into two other cars in the race.
46:34
Yeah, I'd never thought about that.
46:38
It's the Midnight Toker.
46:40
What does Toker actually stand for, remind me?
46:42
Well, I think it's just a contraction of touring cars,
46:45
So, T-O from touring, I think.
46:47
Is that what it is?
46:48
It doesn't actually-
46:49
I've never thought about it.
46:51
I just always assumed that, but-
46:53
I should ask people like Jason Plato who might know.
46:58
I've been there organized.
46:59
He's a midi, could be a Midnight Toker.
47:02
Yeah, well, maybe so.
47:04
Speaking of misheard lyrics,
47:07
I heard Walking in Memphis by Mark Cone the other day.
47:13
Not the share version.
47:15
No, not the share version.
47:16
Also, it wasn't that-
47:17
Didn't someone else do it?
47:18
There was like a sort of Euro dance version.
47:20
There was a Ray version.
47:22
So, the Mark Cone version,
47:24
I suddenly realized that,
47:26
you know, that line,
47:27
which I always thought was,
47:28
I'm walking with my feet 10 feet off a beam.
47:33
It's a bit like a balancing act,
47:35
or like you've gone to a gymnastic center or something.
47:38
That's a bit weird in the middle of this song.
47:40
Like a balance bar thing.
47:42
But when I heard it the other day,
47:45
so like, is he singing,
47:46
I'm walking with my feet 10 feet off a BM.
47:49
Oh, what's he doing?
47:52
I'm walking with my feet 10 feet off my BM.
47:58
Why is he walking over cars?
48:00
In which case, that's just stupid and you shouldn't do it.
48:03
Well, he's pissed and he's coming back from the pub.
48:05
Oh, he's one of those people.
48:06
He's one of those slight wrongies
48:08
and starts walking over people's cars
48:10
like they used to do in the 80s and the 90s.
48:12
I don't know if they do it so much now.
48:15
It's really obnoxious, isn't it?
48:16
But it's trying to impress his mates
48:20
by walking with his feet.
48:21
But 10 feet off a BM,
48:23
maybe he's trying to jump over the BM.
48:26
What, clear it without touching it?
48:28
Yeah, but then that song was out in the early 90s.
48:30
Do you think if you wanted to do that,
48:31
you'd pick a Z3 because they're quite low?
48:34
Yeah, you're less likely to clatter your shins on a Z3.
48:39
Yeah, but I don't think the Z3 was out
48:41
when the song was released.
48:42
So it's going to be something bigger like a three series.
48:45
I mean, it'd be probably an E33 series.
48:47
You're going to, in fact,
48:49
just face plant on the roof at best.
48:51
Unless it was a full Rude Boy edition,
48:54
which was decked and on some big AC schnitzels or as a vase.
49:00
And then that's a good one.
49:02
I don't even know what that that that
49:04
I don't know what the correct lyric of that song is.
49:07
Well, I was so curious because I was like,
49:09
I assume it's not BM,
49:11
but also I walk you my feet, 10 feet off a beam is bit.
49:15
What's I don't or he's gone again, drunk,
49:18
trying to impress his friends.
49:20
Oh, no, broken into a building site.
49:22
They're pushing up a metal frame building and he's up there.
49:26
And he's going to it's an episode of casualty.
49:29
And he's going to be wearing some real skitty,
49:31
like going out shoes.
49:34
Horrible leather, leather-bottomed ones.
49:36
Or would he be low for territory then?
49:40
I don't know anything about Mark Cone, really.
49:43
I don't he's a he's one hit wonder, is he not?
49:44
Or is he is he one of those people who actually like,
49:47
if you know him, you know,
49:48
he's in fact an incredibly long and successful career.
49:51
And done like 90 albums.
49:54
Is that song better than Cuddly Toy by Rocheford?
50:01
No, it's not even close.
50:04
But the and I love that song,
50:06
but it's become such an Alan Partridge.
50:10
Recognize song because of the end of that film.
50:13
But the genius of using it at the start of that movie.
50:15
It was really just Cougan.
50:17
Steve Cougan's attention to detail when it comes to cars
50:20
and music particularly is so good.
50:23
He doesn't just go with his first thought.
50:25
He really sweats the details on this stuff.
50:27
I did look up the lyric of walking in Memphis the other day
50:29
because it was bugging me.
50:30
I was like, what can it be?
50:31
Yeah, and what is it?
50:33
I was walking with my feet 10 feet off of Beale.
50:38
What's what he uses an off of.
50:40
And he says off of 10 feet off of Beale.
50:44
Beale Street is a street in Memphis, apparently.
50:48
So he thinks he's metaphorically hovering down a big street
50:53
in well known streets in Memphis.
50:56
Yes, so it seems to be a Ian Beale,
51:00
the character from EastEnders.
51:04
He's not done some kind of like crazy martial arts move
51:08
where he's leapt in the air or wrestling.
51:10
It's more like a wrestling move.
51:12
He's leapt in the air and he's about to land
51:14
with full force on Ian Beale.
51:17
Oh, he's done a, it is a wrestling move, a 10 foot Beale.
51:21
If you can land, if you can successfully land
51:23
a 10 foot Beale against your opponent,
51:25
you are, that's an instant KO.
51:29
And your singlet, honestly, your singlet,
51:31
you've got to be assured
51:32
that your singlet's going to stay on.
51:34
So much force involved that it could tear that bad boy down.
51:37
You could show a bit of extra skin
51:41
to be in real trouble.
51:42
By the way, listeners, I need to apologise.
51:45
If I'm being a little bit more random than usual
51:48
on this particular podcast,
51:51
my house has run out of coffee
51:53
and I only found out about eight minutes
51:55
before we were due to go and record this.
51:58
I messaged Richard and went,
51:59
oh, I'm in so much trouble.
52:01
I put the kettle on and then turned around
52:03
and realised there was nothing.
52:04
There was no coffee in this house, none.
52:08
It was more alarming because you actually messaged me
52:10
and said there's been a tragedy
52:11
and I honestly thought that someone or thing had died.
52:14
So, I mean, it is a tragedy.
52:18
No one wants to run out of coffee.
52:20
Unless they don't like coffee.
52:21
But this may affect the quality of this show.
52:25
Just to complete this absolutely dead-end thought,
52:30
Beale Street is, yeah,
52:31
it's like the party bar street in Memphis,
52:34
apparently sort of like Broadway in Nashville.
52:36
Well, I think he's gone onto a construction site.
52:38
There's been a new bar
52:40
that's been under construction by slightly shady
52:42
local townsmen for a long time.
52:45
And this guy, what's his called again?
52:48
What are the things called?
52:50
I think Mark has done exactly what you said.
52:52
He's trodden down a bit of loose fencing
52:55
and he's gone in there with this
52:56
probably slightly billowy suit
52:58
after a night out on the source
53:00
and he's gone, I'm gonna do some chin-ups
53:02
at the end of the crane boom to impress my mates.
53:06
And that's where it's led.
53:08
That's what's happened there.
53:15
I was just trying to find out
53:16
if he is in fact a very long running musician,
53:17
which I think he is.
53:19
In 2005, he was shot in the head
53:21
during an attempted carjacking.
53:27
The bullet barely missed Cone's eye
53:29
and lodged near his skull, near his skull.
53:33
Obviously that means in a wall,
53:34
not just like another part of his body.
53:35
He survived and was hospitalised
53:37
but released after eight hours.
53:39
After being shot in the head?
53:44
It sounds like a graze but...
53:46
So hang on, we've stumbled across now
53:49
another totally unintentional car reference.
53:52
We've got to find out what his car was.
53:55
Well, they say according to this,
53:59
the doctors said that they believe
54:02
maybe the windscreen slowed the speed of the bullet
54:06
sufficiently that it didn't do more damage.
54:11
Well now, carjacking, so you think,
54:12
well maybe he was in something quite tasty
54:18
that was worth stealing.
54:21
Mercedes, BMW, Cadillac, don't know.
54:24
Well, what would you spend
54:26
the walking in Memphis millions on?
54:29
Well, listen, if he loved Elvis,
54:31
because there's a little Elvis reference there,
54:33
Memphis is obviously the home of the king.
54:37
Where escalades were, no, they weren't around yet, were they?
54:40
Because the SUV toss hadn't waded in by that point
54:43
quite so much unless you count a Jeep wagon here as an SUV.
54:47
This story, I found a new story,
54:49
contemporary news story that says
54:54
before the shooting, the government had tried
54:55
to use a credit card at a nearby hotel,
54:57
then immediately ran from the building.
54:58
He tried to carjack another vehicle
55:00
as security guards pursued him
55:02
and then came across Cone's vehicle.
55:04
He then says he was last seen driving
55:06
a 2005 gold Subaru Forester with Colorado plates.
55:10
Well, but it's confusing as to whether
55:12
that's Mark Cone's car or if he then jacked another car.
55:18
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We seem to have gone down and Mark Cone
55:56
is old money if that's the case.
56:00
He didn't go nuts with the walking a Memphis money.
56:04
I see this again, another thing.
56:08
I know if this Subaru was his Subaru,
56:11
this proves that he had a big hit,
56:14
only one hit, and he thought,
56:16
If I play my cards right,
56:17
I might be able to live off this frugally
56:21
and just get myself a champagne forester.
56:25
So it's more disappointing now, personally.
56:29
Obviously good news that Mark Cone survived,
56:32
Yeah, that's not the disappointing bit.
56:35
The shooter, he made two unsuccessful attempts
56:40
Attempted to steal a Chevrolet Impala,
56:42
and then ran down the street
56:44
and confronted a Ford van.
56:46
Inside the van was Mark Cone and his tour manager.
56:50
He tried opening the van door,
56:52
had no luck, so shot at the driver and passenger,
56:54
hitting manager Thomas Dube,
56:57
Dube in the chin and Cone in the temple.
57:02
finally succeeding in carjacking
57:04
a 2005 Subaru Forester.
57:05
So no, they were in a Ford van,
57:07
I guess a Tour van.
57:08
Yeah, I hope it wasn't that really awful van
57:11
that we always seem to talk about on our WhatsApps.
57:15
Oh no, not one of those.
57:16
Is it the Ford Aero Star?
57:18
Is it the Aero Star?
57:19
It's just the most awkward, horrid-looking van.
57:22
I just can't bear it.
57:25
It needs to just go away and not come back ever.
57:28
Anyway, there we go.
57:29
We don't need to come back to the Mark Cone.
57:31
We don't want to start another
57:32
hooliardly situation,
57:34
but there we go, Ford van.
57:35
But he was on tour with Suzanne Vega,
57:36
so that figures it was a tour van.
57:37
It wasn't his personal transport.
57:39
Hey, do you know, I actually watched,
57:44
just out of pure curiosity and kind of rewinding time
57:47
and trying to remember how things were
57:51
with car television back in the day and all that.
57:54
I watched series one, episode two of Top Gear,
58:00
As in from the sort of reboot in 2002.
58:04
Yes, so, can you remember anything about that episode?
58:10
No, I can remember the first episode,
58:12
the second one, gosh.
58:14
No, I, was J.K. the guest?
58:18
Yes, very good, wow, yeah.
58:20
J.K. was the star in the reasonably priced car,
58:23
and he had the main interview.
58:25
Yeah, very interesting actually.
58:27
Very giddy that day.
58:30
After the interview, he went back to,
58:32
he could have gone home,
58:34
had a car waiting to take him home,
58:35
but yeah, he's so excited to hang around.
58:38
That he, yeah, he was just sort of hanging about
58:41
and drinking beer out of our production office fridge.
58:44
And just generally sort of amusing the team.
58:48
I wasn't there because I was in the gallery,
58:50
but yeah, apparently he was just sort of there,
58:52
like just chatting away.
58:55
It was in the show then, I don't,
58:56
honestly, don't remember.
58:57
Well, of course it's so,
58:59
James May wasn't there yet.
59:03
And Jason Dore was doing some real world hints
59:07
and tips on buying certain cars.
59:11
Did that feature a Cadillac?
59:15
I wanna say there wasn't a Cadillac in that one.
59:17
I need to rewind it.
59:18
I think there was lots of, there were Peugeots,
59:20
and there was also talk about Ford Focus RSs,
59:23
some dealers saying that you can't get them.
59:25
Oh hang on, was this the segment in the studio?
59:30
Yeah, used news as it was called,
59:32
although actually it used to do lots of new deals
59:37
on Peugeots and things.
59:40
Which was known in the production office as used snooze
59:43
because it was the least interesting part of the show.
59:46
And there was the Ford.
59:47
Poor old Jason had to do it.
59:49
The Ford Focus RS was the launch,
59:53
one of the main films on the show.
59:58
And Jeremy was doing it.
59:59
You might remember, I think he was in Wales
00:01
because there were lots of sheep involved.
00:04
In the middle of nowhere.
00:05
Do you know what I love is the fact that,
00:08
I mean, I don't remember seeing this episode,
00:11
but his verdict on it was what I said about it in period
00:15
and why I didn't really like it.
00:18
And I've always had my arse torn for this
00:22
by lots of people going,
00:23
you can't say that about the Focus RS.
00:28
And actually I was like, no, I'm sorry.
00:32
The way that car talks did
00:36
and the aesthetics of the interior
00:39
were both highly offensive to me
00:42
to the point where I would not want that car.
00:44
I mean, the interior was so awful
00:47
that the color blue that they chose is so awful.
00:50
And the starter button just looks like
00:52
somebody's put a doorbell in the center console
00:55
because the car got stolen and recovered
00:57
the week before and the locks have been hollowed out.
01:00
It just looks horrible.
01:01
It was very aftermarket, wasn't it?
01:05
I didn't like that car on the road.
01:08
It felt better on the track
01:09
because at least the smooth surface allowed it to grip hard
01:12
where it seemed to get unsettled.
01:15
My colleagues at Eva got some flak
01:16
for basically saying they didn't really rate it either.
01:19
But then I think many years later
01:21
they drove another one which felt really sorted out
01:25
and it wasn't, hadn't been fiddled with apparently.
01:27
It's just, it seems like maybe either Ford made some changes
01:31
or they were just very sensitive to alignment
01:34
and tires and things and they could feel
01:37
pretty terrible, pretty bad.
01:38
But yeah, on the road.
01:40
On the road, just not.
01:42
I didn't, I don't remember loving it at all.
01:44
But this is the thing.
01:44
I think I preferred the ST
01:47
and of course the ST was,
01:50
it's actually a much more toned down car, isn't it?
01:52
It didn't really have a serious body kit
01:54
or anything like that.
01:55
So I think I preferred the Focus ST.
01:59
And I definitely preferred the Focus,
02:01
the second generation Focus ST looks wise
02:05
but the second generation Focus RS was the best, I think.
02:12
The second generation looked sort of burly to me.
02:17
Heavy set, that's it.
02:21
So it was really interesting to watch that Focus RS review
02:25
and then Jeremy also did the noble
02:31
and he also, there was a shot of a clip of him
02:35
crashing a Ford RS 200 quite slowly into a field.
02:41
I don't, he sort of.
02:43
Yeah, Hammond kind of went,
02:44
oh, do you want to tell me what happened here, Jeremy?
02:46
When you were driving a few historic Fords
02:50
and because I think in that video,
02:55
Hammond drove a Ford Escort RS 1800.
03:02
Yeah, and he said he never driven one.
03:05
And he said, this was like a childhood dream for him.
03:08
And he was driving around the track.
03:10
So it was kind of a bit weird.
03:11
It's probably, in those days,
03:14
we just sort of go, what do you want to do?
03:16
And Hammond might go,
03:17
yeah, I've never driven an RS S 1800.
03:21
All right, do you want to do that?
03:23
Which is how he ended up in that bloody jet car
03:26
that almost killed him.
03:28
He was in the office one day.
03:30
What's your fancy doing, Rich?
03:30
And he went, do you know what I want to do?
03:31
I've always wanted to just drive really fucking fast
03:37
Hammond drives really fucking fast.
03:38
Became the idea and went, okay.
03:42
Was the pace and the sort of tone
03:44
and everything felt really slow
03:47
and quite sort of car-y compared to how the show became?
03:53
And I noticed the camera angles,
03:54
the sort of zoom crash-ins
03:56
and the Dutch tilting and the sort of,
03:58
there's a lot of spin and tumble going on.
04:00
Still a lot of Dutch angle in those days, yeah.
04:03
it almost felt quite 90s, late 90s with all of that.
04:09
But I really enjoyed it.
04:11
We've said a lot before that decades aren't actually
04:13
neatly arranged numerically.
04:15
Are they like the, you know,
04:17
the true 80s was sort of 83 to 87, 88 kind of thing.
04:21
And I think the 90s hung on into the 2000s.
04:24
So yeah, there's a definite hangover in all sorts.
04:28
I mean, how many bootcut trousers were in that show?
04:32
There were quite a few bootcuts
04:34
and the people in the background,
04:36
we'd invited the Ford RS owners club, I think, there,
04:41
because there were lots of sad cars
04:42
and Jeremy just took the piss out of all of them.
04:44
That was one of the original ideas,
04:47
overarching ideas for the whole show
04:50
before we started was each week,
04:52
there will be members of an enthusiasts club
04:55
relating to one or more of the cars that we're testing.
04:58
I don't remember why.
05:00
And it rapidly dropped away
05:01
because it didn't really give us anything
05:03
except Jeremy could just be a bit rude to them.
05:05
He was quite rude to them.
05:07
I think he was asking the bloke's names
05:09
and he said, what's your name?
05:10
And he went, he said, Lee, of course it's Lee.
05:13
And then he turns to the other guy next to him,
05:15
He said, Kev, of course you're called Kev.
05:19
In fact, all the men here are called Kevin and Lee,
05:21
I think he said something like that.
05:24
I'm surprised he didn't get a nice slap.
05:27
Just weird because Jeremy is quite a false man.
05:31
Yeah, he is very false, isn't he?
05:32
Because he had an escort Cosworth, didn't he?
05:37
He had an escort Cosworth as a long-termer, yeah.
05:41
And his first car was a Cortina 1600E,
05:46
so he is a real folds man at heart.
05:48
Why doesn't he have an escort Cosworth now?
05:51
He should just go and buy a really clean example
05:55
Yeah, I'm not sure.
05:57
He's not really a big car collector though, you know.
06:01
That Hammond or May or another Cotswold farmer
06:06
called Harry is, it's just doesn't,
06:10
I don't think, I suppose he's had decades
06:14
of borrowing other cars
06:15
and they're just having something really decent at home.
06:19
He keeps, he seems to keep quite a tight reign on it.
06:23
He's got, I mean, actually,
06:24
he's got some good stuff now
06:25
because he's got Alpha GT V6 from the Grand Tour.
06:29
That Mercedes Grosso,
06:32
a Jag F-type convertible V6S
06:36
that he bought on a bit of a whim
06:37
after having one on the Grand Tour.
06:40
And that old Range Rover that he tools around it
06:42
on the farm, that's his core fleet.
06:46
But you go, oh, see, that's all right.
06:48
That's not a bad collection of cars
06:50
because they're also doing something slightly different.
06:52
He's not an immaculate like car detail to the nines
06:56
in a perfect shed sort of bloke, is he?
06:58
I can't imagine he's like that at all.
07:00
No, he's got some, as you'd imagine,
07:02
he's got some strangely strident opinions
07:04
about washing cars.
07:06
Anyway, we should bring this into land,
07:09
but before we do, I've got three things to tell you.
07:14
The first is, Johnny's working on a new TV show
07:16
in which he persuades the former lead singer of Marillion
07:18
to dress in an enormous lion, tiger, or leopard costume
07:22
and then attempt to trick old men
07:24
out of their savings by convincing them
07:25
there's an attractive young woman inside the suit.
07:28
It's being developed under the working title Catfish.
07:31
If that's not to your taste,
07:33
then there is, of course, the late break show
07:35
that's going on there.
07:41
You're such a strange prick.
07:44
Although I do enjoy them now,
07:46
I just can't believe you can cock them.
07:48
It's getting harder and harder.
07:51
So, on the late break show
07:53
that's just gone live if you listen to this on Monday,
07:58
is the announcement and the first episode
08:02
showing the either genius or idiotic idea
08:06
of a Matra Rancho having the same wheelbase
08:09
as a Subaru and Pretzer WRX,
08:12
and thus someone has bought a ruined right-hand drive
08:17
Rancho, you might know,
08:19
and someone has decided to body swap it with a Subaru.
08:22
Who's that, Johnny?
08:24
Well, watch and learn,
08:28
Watch the episode, learn, giggle, shrug, comment,
08:33
whatever, subscribe.
08:37
Gosh, I need some coffee.
08:40
Second thing I want to tell you is that
08:45
if you're listening to this show on the eighth
08:49
I am doing a solo live show of sorts.
08:53
It's being billed as an evening
08:55
with Richard Porter,
08:57
which makes me slightly cringe every time,
08:58
but this is part of a series of evening with events
09:01
at the British Motor Museum in Gaiden.
09:04
They've had Ian Callum,
09:05
they've had Peter Stevens,
09:07
they're MC'd by Paul Cowland,
09:10
who is a friend of ours,
09:11
and people will know from various things.
09:16
and from basically Nottingham as well.
09:21
So Paul's going to be on stage
09:22
and be asking me questions.
09:23
What we're going to do as part of it
09:26
is play in some clips from Old Top Gear,
09:30
as in the 2002 to 2015 iteration.
09:35
And then I'm going to talk about them,
09:37
tell a few little behind the scenes stories
09:39
and explain how they came about,
09:40
how they say something about the show
09:43
and what it was or what it became.
09:45
And I've never done that before.
09:47
So there'll be a few little things
09:48
that hopefully people have never heard before.
09:52
Go to the British Motor Museum website
09:53
and look under events
09:54
and you can buy tickets.
09:57
It raises money for the museum
09:58
and the good work that they do.
10:00
And you get a slap up dinner thrown in as well.
10:05
And I'll be knocking around
10:06
and chatting and signing stuff afterwards.
10:08
So it promises to be a lovely evening out.
10:11
So it's Monday the 15th of September,
10:14
And I think tickets are still available.
10:17
Are you going to be wearing a voluminous parachute-esque
10:25
double breasted NBA award-winning suit?
10:30
I thought about it,
10:31
but then I've had a complete change of direction
10:34
and gone the exact opposite.
10:35
So I'm going to be wearing one of those green
10:39
special effects leotards with cotton wool balls glued to it
10:42
that they use in movies.
10:48
One pole's just going to have to sit next to you
10:51
for the whole night looking normal.
10:53
Yeah, but if anyone's filming it,
10:55
I'll be able to then remove myself from the entire scene
10:58
because it'll key into the green.
11:00
Anyway, that's next week, basically next Monday.
11:04
So I hope to see some of you there.
11:06
And the third thing I was going to say is,
11:08
you know, Cars, the Gary Newman song.
11:10
It was a massive number one hit single.
11:13
And one of those songs that sort of has never gone away
11:17
because it has a sort of timeless interestingness to it.
11:20
But it's about three and a half minutes long,
11:22
classic pop song length.
11:24
But the vocals end really early.
11:27
And for basically the last two minutes of that song,
11:30
that global hit, there's no singing.
11:35
It's really weird, isn't it?
11:36
I can't think of another example of that
11:37
where he just sort of gets it all done
11:38
and then just lets it carry on.
11:41
It is just so big, though.
11:45
And we can wrap it up by saying that Talbot,
11:50
Lotus Sunbeam Talbot that you chose
11:52
from the piston heads auction,
11:54
which is such a sweet, sweet car,
11:56
launched in 79, same year as Gary Newman off of Cars,
12:02
What a great pairing, hey?
12:04
Yeah, what a great pairing.
12:05
Good, it's gracious me.
12:06
I'd like to listen to that track in that car.
12:09
Wouldn't it be good?
12:10
And then howl your way to some lovely back roads
12:14
and let it sing, the 2.2, let it sing, isn't it?
12:17
What a wonderful thought.
12:20
All right, well, on that dreamy, imaginary scene,
12:24
Thank you ever so much for listening.
12:26
We'll be back on Friday with an Ottersox
12:27
and a normal show the following Monday.
12:29
Until then, goodbye.
12:34
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