The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a super fancy car that costs a lot of money and is made to be very comfortable. People talk about it because it's one of the most luxurious cars you can buy, often seen as a status symbol.
A drag strip is a straight track where cars race against each other to see who can go the fastest in a short distance. It's like a speed contest on a straight road.
The BMW 5 Series is a nice car that feels good to drive and has a lot of cool features inside. It's a bit more expensive than regular cars, but many people like it for its mix of comfort and sportiness.
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Dodge Hellcat
The Dodge Hellcat is a very powerful car that comes in two models: the Challenger and the Charger. It's famous for having a super strong engine that makes it really fast and fun to drive.
Pro Mod is a type of drag racing where cars are highly modified to go really fast. They can use different kinds of engines to help them race better.
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Outlaw 10.5
Outlaw 10.5 is a drag racing category where cars can only use tires that are 10.5 inches wide. It allows for many modifications, so racers can make their cars faster.
Willy bars are parts on racing cars that help keep the car from flipping over when it goes really fast. They stop the back of the car from lifting too much.
Nitrous is a gas that helps cars go faster by giving the engine more power. When it's added to the engine, it allows the car to burn more fuel and produce more energy.
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small tire
Small tire racing is a type of racing where cars use thinner tires. These tires can make it harder to grip the road, so drivers need to be very skilled to go fast.
Mile per hour is a way to measure speed, telling you how far something goes in one hour. In racing, drivers want to go as fast as possible, so they often talk about their speeds in mph.
Boost means adding more air to the engine, which helps it make more power. This is usually done with special parts like turbochargers or superchargers.
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Mickey Thompson tires
Mickey Thompson tires are special tires made for racing that help cars go really fast and grip the road well. They're popular among racers for their performance.
Lock-up is a feature in some car transmissions that helps the engine work better by connecting directly to the wheels at high speeds. This makes the car more efficient and saves fuel.
Hoosier tires are special tires made for racing. They help cars grip the road better during races, which is important for going fast and making sharp turns.
Rods are parts inside an engine that help move the pistons up and down. They connect the pistons to the crankshaft, which turns the motion into power for the car.
The Dodge Charger is a big car that looks sporty and can go really fast. It's popular because it combines being a family car with the fun of a race car, making it exciting to drive.
PPF is a protective film that you put on a car's paint to keep it safe from scratches and damage. It's especially used by people who own expensive cars.
Ceramic coating is a special liquid you put on a car to make it shiny and easier to clean. It also helps protect the car from dirt and other things that can damage the paint.
Window tint is a film that you put on car windows to make them darker. It helps keep the car cooler and gives you more privacy.
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stage five motors
Stage five motors are special engines that have been upgraded a lot to make them faster and more powerful, usually for racing. They have many parts changed or improved to help them perform better.
The BMW 3 Series is a smaller luxury car that is fun to drive and has a nice interior. It's popular because it combines a sporty feel with everyday usability, making it a great choice for many drivers.
Pro Street is a type of drag racing class where cars are heavily modified for speed. They look like regular street cars but are built to go really fast in races.
The '60 foot' time shows how fast a car can go in the first short distance after it starts racing. It's important for understanding how well a car can take off from a stop.
The 'eighth mile' is a shorter distance used in drag racing, measuring how fast a car can go in 660 feet. It's a way to see how well a car performs before the full race is done.
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But this is the sixth installment since we
Ran to we ran to number four. So this is the sixth installment of moron nation unfiltered and
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Small tire syndicate small tire syndicate. What is that? What is that?
Before we even let everybody know who Carson is Carson explain to us what?
Small tire syndicate is um, so
It's outlaw syndicate, but and you actually named it so nice
No, he forgot his own name
Have y'all been to the moron nation
Welcome. Yeah, welcome. So we the Ryan
Sean myself phantom was own
Text message got together one night sat there for what six seven eight hours and went all over the
Just like the 69
When we were in school the teacher says turn to page 69
I don't even know why I picked those to three in the morning there we go
That's probably why because everybody says that. Yeah, maybe it's in my head
What age do kids front teeth came in? You know six seven. Yeah everything. I mean
I get I get
So we'll get on with a different with a different one. Yeah
So we came together. We'll try to figure out
What's next after mpk for for us and we want to do our own series
That was what we kind of came up with and then what did what we want to raise that a good thing about it being our
Series we we literally sat there. I had a notebook pages of what all we want to do in the series
Yes, he did and expel sheets and
Y'all are so bored with my organization
They need it. Yeah. No, hey, we and we even talked about that. We said
Oh, man, he's a lot
But we need it. Yeah, we have to have somebody to kind of wrangle us up a little bit. Otherwise
We see it so much going on, you know that
Nothing's gonna get done. You know, like if that was if that was left to me and you to make the schedule
It wouldn't have gotten done
It would have gotten done as we did a little bit of way to stop the diss track and then we'd be like, all right
Where we're going next. Yeah, wouldn't have been quite done. But now we have an awesome schedule
That I'm pretty excited about we have it in what would you call that in uh, we've got a neat little flyer
Yeah, flyer shoot out right about now. It's almost like it's legit. It's almost like it's legit
I think it is. Yeah, homie. Um, I feel like Aiden can put it somewhere in here. Yeah, that would be cool if you could
Yeah, yeah, I'll send you the thing
Yeah, and because they've already lost it again. They don't have it. No, I sent it to four people today
So I sent it to Phantom. I sent it to Aaron. I sent it to Mallory
Yeah, how bad when I call y'all as we were doing this when you saw my name pop up on your you
Really can't answer this though because you already dread it
But how bad when you were like
Carson's calling me god
I don't want to answer this because it's going to take 20 minutes and I'm going to have to do something
but you always say
I need 15 minutes of your time and then, you know, 42 minutes later. You know, you're like, I
Only because they jack around for 30 minutes. Well, that's only about both of us on there. Yeah
if it if it's a
A three-way call and it's both of us on there. Then yeah, we're gonna be preoccupied by other things that are going on. Yeah, you know
I want to catch it up. You know, yeah
You forget about things a lot of things
But it was like one on one and I just listened to what he has to say
Yeah, you know
So so the outlaw syndicate is basically a new small tire series that these guys have put together
That is primarily on the east side east of the Mississippi River, right pretty much everything. We got some races in Texas
Yeah, we got a race in Texas, correct? No
Texas is out. Okay. Well, we're gonna have them. So phantom didn't look at the schedule. I didn't look at the schedule. I didn't look at the schedule. Okay, so
He pointed fingers at us. He pointed fingers at us. No, he's never even looked at the schedule. Yeah, but he didn't look at it.
It's just defense we did want to do. Yeah, we wanted to get a paint paint oil. What have been cool
And that was the last and final race like last time I talked to him
He said when's the schedule gonna be out and I said, hey, he's trying to secure that Texas track
So, you know, and then we came down here and we've been here for well his forever
So the outlaw syndicate
Is a new small tire racing series primarily on the east side of the Mississippi River
What do we got here eight races eight races? You all want to go over the schedule? Let's do it. Yeah, you're doing a good job so far
Start it off
You want me to start okay, so I'll start so uh march 27th and 28th
We're gonna go back to north far florida motorplex in fountain
Uh florida, which is yeah, it's a really cool track. It's like the guy's been a ton of money on it. It's all looks kind of modern
Um stands are really cool. The local cars showed up too. Yes. I think we're having their local gassers too. Yes
Local gassers are coming. Um, that's a that's a pretty cool place. Yeah
so what what all
What all classes are we gonna have at these? So we're gonna do here's the format that y'all might or might not know
So we're gonna have four classes. Um, first is a anything on 28th. Uh, kind of like what we have here
The only thing you can't do is bring a pro mod, which is kind of what they have here, right? No pro mods
Then we're gonna do an all still all glass
And that is a no chassis car
I think can you can you can back half all still all glass you just can't do
Let's just call it like it is swanson's what swanson's done. Justin. I like you
Um, but it's pissed a lot of people all say that here. Okay. What's okay?
Y'all to have your own feelings. Um, but uh, it took took a lot of cars out of the class
We don't want one car to dominate. We want everybody to have a chance
So it wanted to be a fair fair with not a lot of rolling in those people's defense
I get it somebody was gonna do it and whenever swanson did it. I even told him somebody's gonna do it
It may as well be you
The the pot got up there big enough that it made sense for somebody to do it
You know, but honestly that is a grass roots type or is what they meant it to be
Grass roots type. So we're trying to bring it. We're trying to put as as few rules as possible
But bring it for everybody to be able to do. Okay. So all still all glass
We're saying back up only is that what I'm asking is that normal? Yep. Is that normal for those cars?
Man not anymore, but I think it's for the best
Of of I I think I don't even care if you say no back or back half cars. I would just say I would just say
Just no all glass no chassis cars. That's pretty much what it says. What about a 69 Camaro with a bolt on front end?
I mean like the smith craft racecraft stuff that that's all those cars have that nowadays
Yeah, I don't I have nobody's gonna come in nobody's gonna be racing a car that has a stock front
Subframe sure. Okay, you know
Okay, so also all still goes on 28 anything on 28 no promods
No promods roof shirt carbon still carbon roofs or carbon bodies are okay. No
carbon bodies are not okay. No
That's a factory factory. Yeah, still roof and quarters
No different than what we've run in. Yeah, that is not a rule here
Really? Oh, yeah, cuz Rob raced in it, huh? Yeah, so this this place has well also bill boots
Yeah, bill lose the car. Oh, is it really? It's carbon car. Yeah
Factory wheelbase plus two
Yeah, so it's not a promod
Yeah, I mean look, I think if you say no promods the factory wheelbase doesn't even
That goes out the window because I this right here my promod
What is it 111 113? Yeah. Yeah, that's close. That's real close to factory wheelbase
And that you don't get any more promod than that. You know what I mean? So it's defined as a promod
So I think you say no promods
Um, I mean, that's kind of what they've done here. If you're gonna if you're gonna follow the spirit of this class. Yeah
That's my opinion
But I want you know, these people to understand and I want us to be clear on how we're gonna do that because they need to
Know if they're gonna follow this class because not only is it gonna pay
$20,000 plus every single time we you know, we put up money pretty good, huh? Yeah, but also there's a fantastic
Championship points package. So there's gonna be a point series
Um
And you know some of the stuff that I've personally
Some of the companies have donated for the points champion is awesome. Like that's 100 stellar. Yeah. No, it makes me want to win it
So, so we're gonna get that in a minute
So there's it's a it's a real deal series. These eight races. It's a point championship
It's a series with whoever champions the most and wins the most races
Man, we you know, look, we want to do this next year the year after we want to build it
We might go to 10 races next year. We you know, I mean
Uh, I would I want this to be as how many I mean, could you ever call us legit?
If you cause a lot of things, would you ever say man, look if you've got a sponsorship deck and stuff? Yeah, but
We're trying to get legit
We're trying to go legit like hector, you know
In the nitro circuit, you know, except we're gonna be in that outlaw syndicate. Yeah
Yeah, okay, so not to cut you off. We we covered the 28 stuff. Yep. We covered all still on glass also
We have glasses pretty much
Back half cars
I'll steal a glass. There you go. Got it. Okay. Uh, so then we have our our outlaw 530 index class
So I think that's gonna be fun. I think a lot of people are gonna
Jump and we've talked to jimmy dale and poland about coming to a couple of these races and they had we have their
You know blessing we have their blessing on the the little gangster class
Yeah, so we won't call little gangster because we don't want to we don't still name. Actually, I don't think they would care
No, they would they've already told us that yeah
But for us, we're gonna call it an outlaw 530 class uh index class and
And we want it to end up just like uh, just like a little gangster class
Yeah, and we and we would love them to come and bring some of their peoples
Well, and not to mention a lot of our guys are gonna be racing that class like
Our crew guy
Phantom will be racing that class. Aden will probably be racing that class. Uh, ricky will probably be racing that class
You know like
Hey, whatever
I thought I mean look, we don't we talked about this and we would love feedback from y'all but
We talked about us not racing in that
You know, um, you're gonna be we not racing in what 28 the 28s and only racing the five racing in the 530 class
I'm gonna race in something, you know, so and I'm okay with not racing in the 28 class
I'm still gonna have the the cars there. You're still gonna have your car there
We'll probably make a few passes throughout the weekend, but honestly
We're gonna try to set this thing up to where we can be there for the racers and we can be there for the fans
yeah, and I would love for this thing to get big enough that
We could not worry about anything except racing the 530 class. Yeah, I mean, let's be realistic
I think you guys talk about pretty much everything on this podcast, right?
So we want to do something that is going to be a really popular series
To bring life back into this to these racetracks that we are you know that we have talked to and again, we'll read the schedule here in a bit
Um, but that that kind of brings our stuff more popular the five, you know that that 530 little gangster class the 28 class
And the all steel glass we think those are the the hottest things going right now
And I think what we want to do is focus our energy on building those classes
Yes, and that may not mean that we're gonna race those classes
I'm sure we'll race something
But you know, I feel like we've done some pretty awesome things with some of the 20 acres tire cars right now
And I don't want it to be to where
Of your local guys like, you know, that's we want to we want to cater to the local guys
That's right, and we realize those guys may not have cars like the fireball in 28s, you know, who
There's only a few people in the world that do I know this and and and I don't want to run
I don't want to make the cloud. I don't run people off because of that
Well, yeah, I mean because eventually that's what would happen, you know
Like yeah, we want the local guys to come out and we don't want them to come out and
Think that they don't have a chance. Yeah, so nobody
But that's why the 530 the index class is so great
Because it doesn't matter what you have you could literally have a 4.0 car
You still got around 530 like everybody else and they can and that's what yes, they can and they can smoke the tires
And pedal it 15 times and still go 530 that run Phantom in this truck
But on the same note because there was a guy that was racing here with you guys this weekend for the record that
Won the whole class one and he
It was not a little gangster. He passed me
You know, like it is what it is. So
It just uh, that's the the
It's a cool class. It is a cool class. It literally race anything. You can race anything. What are those classes paid?
So anything on 28 is 20 grand. Okay, then that's a good payday. Yes
I I would not I couldn't imagine we wouldn't have 25 plus cars in every one of those. Yeah, why not?
It would be nice and and once we start talking about the tracks guys, we're not talking about doing it at
Innis, you know and big tracks like that. We're talking about doing it in the grassroots small tracks
that you know
Three four thousand people in the gates and the place is going to look like it's out of control pack
You know the the the tracks that aren't just amazing and great
So it's so that the people that are used to to racing on the streets
We're racing on the the 28 stuff. They're not going to come out there and they're not going to be running four O's
They're going to be running three nineties what I like, you know, this came from mean Kai Dabble
In this last year and then you came to north florida with us. Yes on our last race the
Feeling at north florida was awesome
It was that we're we're looking at some awesome tracks like we really handpicked the tracks that we're going to
We want eight of those style races and I know we can get there with those
It's it's it's a pretty neat feeling to get all your local people out there a lot of people racing
With us to go have a good time, you know and and to go turn on that money. So on the same note, we had
Guys like Joey ravioli. We had Brandon more
Yeah, that's I don't know his last name, but I think that's what it is. Yeah
Oh, that's for sure. Oh, yeah
You had Kai and Kai's car, which you never know he'll be invited to
But anybody on 28s could come to these things
But there was a lot of guys last year that followed us. Uh, ryan Mitchell followed us to those, um, the stude
The stude followed us to those and and whenever they figure out what the championship is gonna
Bring some of them guys are gonna be in I know that I've already talked to Dave
And he's already told me that he'll be at least two of the right one of the races
Is that Dave's home track in new york?
One of our races. That's a no-brainer
I haven't looked at it. Yeah, no still on there. Um, no
So nice
Did he say no? Yeah. Well, no, he didn't say no. We don't it's a that's a ended up being an eye-to-eye track
Ah, there's a lot of cluster to that and there's not a lot of parking and
That area is gonna bring a huge. So let's go through this. All right. So I think it's time to it's obviously new to all y'all
How many times do y'all think I've sent you this schedule though?
Just to put it out there. I haven't told you this hasn't been this schedule, you know, because I have one with that racetrack
Four weeks late, but I think you did get it
Yeah
So just like I had to tell a guy this weekend put some arc on it and get make sure you get over that
No
So back to what I was saying. So we're going to some pretty awesome tracks. No, we are
Uh, so north florida, it is super cool because yet does jam pack people in there
It's a a neat track that guys puts a ton of money into it to uh to dress it up. It's just a fun place
Um, then we're going to um brainerd. That was so listen. I never got a chance to race at brainerd
You're right. Yes. Brainerd, georgia guys. Love it. Not not michigan. Yeah, the place they I guess they don't have to
All the trees at the anymore, right?
All the trees are gone. No, they're not all gone. The storm came through there and broke a bunch of them
But there's so they tipped it a little amount. Wow. Yeah, but they still got the best place. Where was that that we talked to?
Yes, Amy ferro. We talked to her. I talked to her pr. I she came here this weekend
Okay, I mean you talked to her somewhere. Maybe it was at pr. I believe it was
Anyway, she was really excited to have us. The place is very very cool guys. Uh, we went there
Uh, me you
Was chuck with us chuck?
We were broke in 2020
during covid and
My engine was blowed up. Yeah, which it was at most of those tracks
And I never got a chance to go down that track. It was but it was really cool place
It's got a very outlaw feel to it. Like when we're going
four hoes
like at that race track, um
At the end it's really cool. So you guys that was with our big tire stuff guys. Yeah
for the record. Yeah, uh
It's just a cool track. It's got a it's got an awesome return road
That's not typical of all the others the return road is built onto a like a almost a big platform
So like it looks kind of intimidating. There's like a ditch on each side. I don't know
But it's built up the ends got a big creek. It's it's really cool. So but it's one of my favorite places
um on on our little small tire
Deal that we did last year. It was
Between florida or there that were the best most packed house. Yes. Uh, so i'm excited to go back to brainer georgia
So and while we're at brainered, uh, we're they have a because uh,
Amy in their name. Yes, they her and her husband. They push junior dragsters. They have two kids, right?
And both of them are big into it. They're big there. So they have a big local class
So actually we're gonna bring the junior dragsters in we're gonna do an extra thing with them
So they get to race with like the big guys, right? So we're actually gonna so in florida
We're doing there's a couple different tracks are doing some stuff like this florida the gassers are real big
The local guys have a they show out there. So the gas the local gassers will be at uh at the florida
And then they have a huge presence with uh junior dragsters
So we're gonna do a couple junior dragster classes with at amy's deal
Yeah, the junior presence of brainer is huge like that. They focus on that. I remember that her stephen farrow is
That her stephen and amy ain't on the racetrack. They've owned it for a while now
And also what's cool about that places, man? They know how to run a racetrack
Like she does so good smooth track man. She I'm taking I've stolen a lot of ideas from her
VIP passes some other stuff like that which again, we're gonna have a lot of stuff
VIP passes special places for
You know different spots that you can go to and all that type
Yep, we're and we'll talk about presale and all that stuff too. Uh after we leave there may first
Through the third
Is darlington
Dragway and darlington. So south carolina. That's that's a that's a very cool track. Uh, it's a very good track
And that's the one that that john doc run that
Uh, I don't know that he runs it. I think he's affiliated with it. I think he runs it. They have a manager there
They have an on site manager. I I think he owns it, right? Like he bought they leased it. Yeah
They bought some small
I've been watching him a little bit on youtube
He's also got another track now that he's just bringing back to life. Uh, and then I talked to him here this weekend
I mean the dude the dude did pretty well here this weekend. Uh
But yeah, no, so and so he's uh, he's he's a small tire racer too. You know, and what is it the
Nasty LS nasty LS nasty. He that's I guess that's him, right? Yeah, and uh, I think it's just nasty racing now
Since he's got a hymn me and whatnot. Oh used to be a little nasty change that
But uh, I I imagine that we would get all of the locals from around his his deal too
Well, then and I think we'll double dip on that because we leave there darlington and we go to 7 10
It's right off i-95 in north carolina. That's in roland north carolina may
15th and 16th. Yes, uh, I don't know a whole lot about this place
But I do know that uh, I was talking with kala earlier and she literally said that that's one of the
Her favorite tracks that she's ever been to that county has like three drag strips
She said that the people come out of the woodworks to that place kind of like what you were talking about at
What was it shady side? Yes
so
which
That race right there should be packed for people
Testing
It's right near my you know, whatever the big races the following week. Yeah, so the king of the south
It's real close to the king of the south and this is the weekend before king of the south
So this is the weekend before king of the south. So if you get the golden ticket
Um, then they are actually going to do and you come you're coming to race our race anyway
They're actually going to keep the track open for two extra days. It's paid. It's not free
But you can stay there and test for a couple days. Uh, and I don't know prior to yeah prior to then you can
Just roll up the shady side if you're gonna if you want to do that. Yeah 100%
It's convenient
We leave there
Did you hear that?
I just gave up because literally in the text messages Ryan was like, so we're doing that the weekend after and we're like
You can feel Carson's head just exploded. Okay. Let me let me it was my idea to get that the week before and I just call that
Test session made that happen for that race. Yeah, I did not realize though. We're having a whole extra test session there
We are not either. It's a great they did that. Well, I
Suggested it. So we're gonna be there on the weekend
We're gonna be on the weekend and then like what Monday Tuesday?
Well, I guess we'll be there testing
Okay, so
I'm gonna I gotta test a lot because I'm a few I'm a few tents behind you guys
I gotta test way more than that because I have a car that's never been on the track
Or fired up or fired up
Yeah, nice. Yeah
so, um
I was gonna say maybe I'd be a better bracket racer since my tree is delayed
It's a delayed we're gonna talk about that. I know it's coming. I know it's coming
So we're gonna leave there. We're gonna go to west virginia south side dragway. This is a pretty this is another
This is a pretty cool track too. It's got a good story
Father and son
Uh, well, you know, it's really funny god, I could really could choke both. No, this is this is the track that you found
This is your guys came by and said, hey, we really like you don't know that he sent me a guy
You sent me a picture
You sent me a picture of duct tape with a guy's name and a number. I knew as soon as you said that I was like, oh, that's actually his
racetrack
Oh, I thought seven ten was the one. It's almost like me. It's almost like me to one of us listen. Hey, it really is
Y'all don't understand
So I'll go back to what I know about this track that you don't
Father and son bought it. Uh, maybe a couple years ago. They have spent a ton of money also
It's really cool to see other people out there investing like tons of money back in the racetrack to make it. Yeah 100%
They've spent a I just saw on facebook the other day that they
Cut out from the starting line back and reconcrete it all it
Um, so they they've spent a ton of money. They're doing events there. They're doing stuff there. Am I boring you?
A little bit. Okay. Gotcha. Well, everybody else doesn't know this. You've heard it three times
I understand understand long week
So they spent a ton of money really cool people. Uh, they're actually they're just johnny on the spot. They uh
They'll text they're excited. I think they have a lot of people that are excited
So really cool track to go to then we uh leave there
Here's another interesting story which all of mine are long-winded jackson dragway
This the guy that owns that is kind of been internet famous lately. Everybody's been going to his car collection and checking that out
Don baskins. Oh, that's good. That's not related to carol though, right?
I don't know if he's got some tigers there. That's not explain the fame
It is not true. His fame is his awesome car collection. Yes, and his big truck and his big truck lot
Is it jackson one that we went to back when we were? Yes. We have
We've been there before then he did not own it. He's dumped a bunch of money in it
It's like supposedly way better, which we haven't got to see it, but i'm excited to go back
Uh, he is a true racer heart has a whole bunch. I mean, I I think I want to show up a day early and go check out his car
Same. Yeah, like I would his track manager said that she's gonna make that happen for us. I would love that
It is he's got over a thousand cars in like 300 300 thousand square feet. I watched the 1320 video
And it was it was amazing. I just wanted to see all the cars and I would love to go there
He is just as nice on the phone to he's got a whole bunch of race cars too. Like it's not just show cars
So, uh
If we can if we ever leave out of that place, we'll uh, then we end up at holiday
Raceway Woodstock, alabama
Man, this guy's Chris that runs this place great, dude
I've had to move him three times because of some other scheduling thing that we've been committed to so, um
Yeah
Not yeah, oh that was yeah for you. Yeah, it was not that we won't be that the at the midwest stuff
but uh, yeah starts with you one thing about our schedule is
Sean's gonna be racing midwest promo this year for the points for the points and we've got our nha deal
Yep with our four races that we're going to be doing. Are we going to talk about that on here?
Yeah, whatever these guys first. We're going to get through this schedule. Let me finish
And all of the this schedule is not on top of any of that stuff. Correct. You have any plans on going midwest
Pro modder or attending our nha stuff. It is not going to conflict with the schedule
What I see on here that's pretty cool too is there's only one that's back to back
So well, here's pretty much
One or two things for you, but you haven't seen your schedule for the year. Have I have an idea
Yeah, I think when you leave and you leave in March, you know, come home for like two months. Yeah. Yeah, that's not my fault
I only did these eight. Yeah. Yeah, so but I mean for the people that are following it for the oh for sure
It's tough to stay going. It's gonna stay going for a long time. Yes. Everybody I've showed the schedule too is like, oh, you know what?
That's not bad. So we must have done decent with the schedule. Yeah
And I think eight races is about the first the the you know, the perfect
amount
Yeah, I think eight's like a good and then you and you get it done before
October, right? So you can go run your stuff in the fall. You can go run other stuff and it's not
All right, so we're gonna finish this so august 21st and 22nd
We're going to uh, us 60 dragway in kentucky
He was here racing with us this weekend. Great guy. His name is also chris
He has spent a ton of money on that place
Redoing a ton of stuff. You can look at it on google earth and he's like, yeah, they took that picture while we were doing it
There's a lot more asphalt that we put down and yeah, so uh, I mean it I bet
Five of these eight tracks the owners have put money into recently
I was gonna say the whether we did it on purpose or not
I like the fact that these are tracks that people have bought recently and then are pile of money
Because then we can go support these guys, you know, like hey, let's let's try to bring a whole bunch of people
It's not big mainstream tracks, you know, like we we like giving love to the small tracks also like
honestly, man
The surfaces aren't gonna be perfect. They're not gonna be glued to the earth
It's not something that you're gonna probably be able to go. I mean not some of them you probably be able to
You know go out and run radial races at you know, that's the type of tracks that we like
You know that the the small
Also, we're not going to and I think we've all agreed on this. We're not
Cramming home the traditional no prep
No, no, this is gonna be a pretzel. Yes. So look a lot of feedback that we got
Um when when Kai and I did did our series was a lot of people wanted they didn't want to come because they thought that
We weren't prepping the tracks. Yes, and they don't want to run and risk tearing their cars
Surface and we understand that we don't want to tear our stuff up either so vp. We appreciate you
Yeah, vp is going to supply us with the glue with the glue for all the race tracks and these are going to be prep race tracks
So this is not going to be questionable surface
Uh, I mean it's not going to be glued to the earth. No, but it's going to be a decent surface
We're not trying to run radials there, but we're not trying to crash cars either. That's right
We're supposed this this is about having fun. Yeah, right and going home to do body work on a race car
I think part of it. No, I mean like I want got you know, like honestly like phantom's truck is a good example
Like to for people to bring stuff like that and not have to worry about
If they got enough traction if they're gonna spend the tires, they're gonna crash their
You know, like there's some of these people I get it. They got one car. This is their focus on their car
They're dumping their extra money. That's their that's their that's their passion and that's extra dollar every extra dollar they got
We don't want to do anything to even my 55 like the 55 is the type of car where
It makes plenty of power, but it it's kind of like the champagne car
It makes plenty of power, but it's so heavy and because it's got all the daily driver type stuff on it air conditioner
All that stuff that man, I mean you got to kind of get after it to run the 530
So anytime that aiden has ran little gangsters on the unprepped stuff like what he did with mpk with us
Man, he never run 530. Yeah, I hear he's running 550s out there, you know, and then there'd be a gut it out
You didn't go some rounds
But you also went some rounds because it was a not it was not prepped, you know
So but you pull up next to that gutted ass race, you know fox body that weighs
2300 pounds, you know, if it's a race car that could run 480s if they if they could if they needed to
And they was going 530, you know, so
We won't have to uh
Worry about not running the no, yeah, that's right
So I'm looking forward to it. I think is I really am looking forward to it. I think it's going to be a lot of fun
We got a couple other things, you know in between rounds
Probably going to do best two out of three with you guys
In a car probably going to do
I think the 55 is going to be there. I think maybe one of the
I think I want to put rim. I put ricky in the in my red fourth gen car
And that's a beautiful car and I think I'm going to race a champagne car
Gotcha. So then I know that we're going to have at some of the tracks
Ride alongs with you two guys in one of the cars
Is that safe? That is safe. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm like, you know, like there will be some paperwork to sign
There is definitely going to be paperwork to sign
Yeah, 100 but we're going to make uh, yet
Non, uh, we're not going to do them in the in the fireball and in the the og, you know
We're going to do them in something a little different. We kind of took this idea from
Spokane, right? Yeah
I missed that race. That was a good time, man. So for y'all of you that didn't make Spokane basically won that race
Yeah, we did. We won that race the last mpk race. Yeah
Um
Know that but they supplied us with Hellcats. Yep. Yeah. So we got the idea out of Spokane
We were given fans rides in those Hellcats
Dude, that was a good time a good time like as i'm driving i'm looking over at
Like it was a good time
Hey, and every single person winner lose came out of those cars like what they big smile on their face
I wouldn't go to my race. So the 55 would be like almost crying
That would be pretty cool. I didn't realize we were talking about doing the the cars that would run 5 30s to 5 50s
We're not going to do that. We're going to do something a little different. I'm totally fine with it
Like there's belts in the 55. They're probably out of date. They're definitely out of date, but they're going to work
You know, they're going to hold you in it. Uh, the cage may not hold together if we crash, but you know, that's what the paper one is for
I'm just saying
Look, you chose to get in this car with me. No, I chose to get into this with y'all. That's what it was
This is yeah, I need to
Oh
I don't know if ron tells how we've been driving the rental cars this week, you might
Hey, at the end of the day, you know, we're going to get from a to b. I'm just probably not going to take off as quick
Yeah, we know that. Yeah
This weekend
I mean, they're going go go. Yeah, right?
We're going to make it from a to b leaving on a wednesday. The race was on a tuesday. Yeah
Yeah, what else we want to talk about on that thing that covers ours
Anything else that we're possibly going to put into any of these races because I know that we had talked about
Possibly doing a car show at one or two of them or I really like the whole car show idea
Not a lot of people know
Okay, yeah, even when I was younger though, I am getting older guys. That's fax
But for the record me and reiner the same age
Yeah, I'll never be told this year. Oh, we're forward to exact same age. Yeah. Oh, you two are the same age
Which one of y'all's older feet? You want to be 41?
All the way at the end of december. So, yeah
Now you really got our shit together
Wait
Carson's rich too
He's got his shit together, but y'all are kind of like me and Sean like you're way. We're the same age right now
Way older than I am
Guys two two two weeks
Yes, right now he's as old as I am
We're the same age right now. We're both born
49 we're both born in the same year and that was 77. We both graduated high school at the same time and he calls me
Oh, did y'all know each other like
Damn, y'all know me 50 in a couple years
He graduated from
Our western Oklahoma, sir
Yeah, so but yes, I am getting older
But even whenever I was young I still liked car shows and and it's it's in my blood guys like
My whole family burnout pits. We're talking about doing that. That's
Aidan's time to shine at some point possibly throwing a car show or two, uh, you know, that's where I'll be parking the 55 over there
You know and anything that running us
Uh
And then yeah, burnout. It's the place. It's there's a few places that are it's tighten area tighten space
You know with burnouts. You got to have asphalt or concrete
Um, so a couple of the places are tight on that. So I'm still working. We're still gonna look into that guys
We're still gonna add some of those where we can't we don't care who you are come out and do some burnouts
Yeah, for sure. Who doesn't like burnouts. Everybody loves burnouts. That's my favorite part of raising bring your car to the car show
Have you thought have you thought about and I don't want to make this too long
But have you thought about car show classes and stuff?
Now I kind of figured we just keep it simple and me and you would come over and probably give somebody something for
My my favorite pick. Yeah, favorite pick. Okay. Kind of like we did at our grand opening at the tint shop
That was pretty I thought that went well. Yeah, people love that. Yeah
100% that's super easy to put together too. Again, it's just a parking thing of getting them in
But so there's some organization to it, but we'll make it happen
Yeah, absolutely and then the burnout pit stuff is is always cool. So not that this is my show to run
But you know, I'm somewhat a ringleader of this
So we've kind of we've talked about that and maybe I'm ready to like
Rip the band aid and go and talk about this weekend so we can get it over with so okay. Yeah
That's a good segue into this
Here that's the absolute longest that's the absolute longest pre-roll ever
If you want to sponsor the show your ad will likely not be that long that however though that is
So however though that is the outlaw syndicate. Uh, is there a website for it?
Uh, facebook page facebook page outlaw syndicate outlaw. There is an instagram outlaw syndicate. Wow
There is uh, we do have the website. We don't have a website built yet. Um
Listen, I'm not a tech guy. I'm doing good to get on social and make and make a post
By the time this thing by the time it goes live to go to our first event
I bet we'll have a website way before our first event. We're gonna have it. We're still in january
But um, the float there's a an account on the float. Yeah, that's a different that's a different website
Is it different than the vote? It's no it's the vote the same thing is the float you start up a different company
What did I say float you said float? I'm sorry folk. Okay, whatever. So I thought maybe you started like a like a competition
They're gonna compete against the float and we call it don't put it past me
So we almost something that knew that happened today is we may even uh, have this live stream
It is definitely going to be live streamed
So, uh, I didn't know but I didn't know definite. But oh, yeah, we're definitely whether he does it or not
Yes, okay. It's happening. No matter what. Okay. It is. We're definitely live stream. You have decided that that is the
It is an important part of this. We think that is an important part of this. I think that's going to help me grow faster
Yeah, so that is 100 it's going to be so if you're in california and you can't make it to florida
You're still going to be able to see it and keep up with it. It will be multi camera
So, um, it is not going to be yeah, so a rinky dink one day if they if somebody's standing on a sardine with a cell phone
That is correct. I wanted to say it nicely because we appreciate them like we don't say things nicely around here
Well, I do still appreciate them because that helps get more views regardless for sure
But no it is going to be done legit multi camera
I don't know that we're going to be uh, the flow
And have interviews and stuff
Nope the guy from canada. What's his name? He is from canada. Uh, that track channel
That track channel
Yeah, that we we
He joined us earlier and said, hey man, I'd really like to know what y'all's schedule is and I'd like to I'm fixing to start getting into some
Livestream. Yeah, some live stream stuff and and he started telling us all about it. And I was like, you know what come meet carson
He said that's been the theme of the week go talk to carson
What I need help with is moving the stuff from tractor track from track to track and we said man
Carson's got a trailer 28 foot trailer. We're putting everything in it. We're putting everything
Stuff in it. Yeah, and it's just never ending it. He said damn carson that that trailer is full already
Everything you've loaded this year this like this week and talked about it. Yeah
It happens. We'll figure that out. Yeah
We're gonna have to right so anyways guys as more comes about, you know, we'll talk more about it and then obviously, you know
on our youtube channels, we
You know, we're gonna get some videos out on the youtube channels
We're definitely gonna do that. Um gonna blast the schedule every now and then all over all of our social media
Everybody's socials will have the and more as anything comes out
Uh, it'll just you know, stay on y'all's facebook and instagram and everything else. Yep, and they'll get updates on it
I think I think that'll be cool. But so where where can we find pre-sale tickets?
At the float. There you go. And it will be um, it's got a little little uh, yellow and whatever logo with the with the orange background
Yeah, boop right there. Um, it's like magic
Um, we appreciate you
Uh, so you can pre-sale tickets each one's gonna be about 60 days before we'll start pre-sale 60 days before
Uh, the actual event so it makes it easy
The legit word is getting close. Yeah, okay. I mean the legit. I mean, it's almost right here
I'm about to say it. Yeah, I'll just you know, you know, high five me. Yeah, I feel like we're legit. Yeah, I like it
Yeah, and we're not gonna do no funny business
if
Something happens and a race gets rained out or whatever the case is
We're gonna offer refunds or rain checks whenever the customer wants 100%
Yeah, it's not it. This is about having fun. Yeah funny business
I'm not you know, I'm not naming any names of who does funny business a y'all can or has or has done funny business
But I mean, you know, we we're not we don't want to take anything from anybody
We want to give somebody a great time
Yeah, and we want the opportunity for them to have a great even if we miss because look there's gonna be rain
We're gonna have some issues. We all know that always. It's just how we take care of it, right?
How the how the fans want us to take care of it how we take care of it. We're gonna we'll go back
We'll reschedule stuff
The tracks have been great with working working with us. I don't think we'll have a bad time a hard time reschedule if we have to
Yeah, no, I don't I think we'll be back at every one of these tracks next year. I think so too. I think we'll add a couple
Um, I think yeah, but everybody's they've all been great to deal with
So if this is as successful as I think it is, I'm really excited to do
Some type of a west coast version
110 we got to we got to put a toe in first. Let's see. Let's see how these go
Oh, no doubt and then we'll uh, we'll totally do that and even though me and Ryan are you know as hardcore racers you can get
Carson's on
Carson's not racing at all. Yeah. Oh, you're not. No. Well, no, they're not well though. He said well, well though
Like he was going like he was thinking about it there for a minute
I mean, I would like to race something at some point this year. I'll let you call after this weekend
I don't know that I'm a racer at all, but um,
Maybe uh, you got a fast car though. I got a really fast car. That's another one qualifier
Yeah, I'm great. We're gonna talk about that here
I'm trying to rip. I've been multiple times trying to build up. Yeah
So that's the end of our pre-roll ad here at all syndicate
Check it out. Be on facebook instagram all of our socials, etc, etc
Lots of it's kind of what we're doing this year. Yeah, everyone keeps asking what your schedule looks like
This is this is the first part of our schedule and then you guys know I will be at the midwest races
Ryan's probably going to come to a couple of those. I don't know if he's going to follow it around like I am
Uh, and then obviously the nha stuff. So anybody that's watching this obviously keeps up with our facebook pages
And you'll learn where we're going to be but that is pretty much the schedule of our race that we have
Yeah, I say we that we have put together. Absolutely. Yeah, nice job guys. Yeah
Thanks, man. Thanks. Uh, but at some point the the breakdown and everything will be on our our pages
and you'll know
Sponsors of this deal. We've got a lot of sponsors on board already
I mean because when you when you put together ryan me even karson
We really haven't introduced who karson is but karson has sponsors of his own karson, uh has
Stores, you know so hilarious are his people and all of our people have jumped on board
With this and it's been amazing. We have a lot of people to think
We're obviously not going to do that right now, but we will put all this on our facebook pages and some of those people have even
added in bonuses for
uh
For championships, you know, so it's going to be it's going to be worth
attending all these races if you've got a fast hot run if you pull off the points championship and small tire here
I am going to say
I think it'll be one of the bigger price packages that i've ever heard of
For a points champion not to mention 20 grand to win
Yeah, not to mention 20,000 to win just a regular race
Plus you're getting cash for a points champion. We don't know how much cash yet. We're going to figure that out
But it's going to be at least how much how much of a race cost
Yeah, so it's going to be at least 20 grand for a points champion plus. I bet and I bet the price package is
Approaching 40 50 thousand dollars right now
Pretty crazy. It is crazy. Yeah, so it's going to be it's going to be like I don't I don't know of it
I mean, we've we've raced in a lot of series drunk, you know, well, that's why we're upset if he's not going to let us race in this
Yeah, I know trying to win
The cool stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, um
So
Anyways, so we've been down here in florida. We're still in florida. That's why we're in our trailer right now guys
Yeah, so we suck. So we're not really talk about us. Uh, we did learn
This week, which I think is kind of cool. Even though he was a visor we learned at steve fast listens to the show
And and he was honestly and we've said this numerous times even
Scratch what we think about him from wearing the visor in the crocs
Uh
We've always said he's great for the sport
And he's a character, you know, and he's good for the sport and he's a racer, man
I mean, he just won this and he just won the race this weekend. I mean, we lost we lost to the dude that beat everyone else
You know, it's steve would have been here
We all got we all got that same story and then and then ryan lost to the
To the guy who won to the guy who and then karsten lost to the guy who won
Carson outran the guy who won. Yeah, that's that's the terrible thing. Yeah, that's the whole other conversation unless you want to have that now
man, let's
So we came down here and we raced pro mod ryan you raced the the 10 five class the true 10 five class
Is that what they called it? And then you raced the outlaw pro 10 five, which is always called outlaw 10 five or pro street
Why don't they not call it outlaw 10 five anymore?
That's one of the coolest classes ever probably trademarked
maybe
Your class is a 33 10 5 33 so pro 10 5 is the 33 10 5 with my class with willy bars
My class is a 28 10 5 no willy bars. And as you know, the big show is
Is the pro mod class. Yes, and we talked about it all week guys. You saw how bad we sucked
So we're not going to talk about us here. We're going to talk about these two
Uh, we can talk about how bad we sucked all week
Yeah, we've been talking about it. I've taken more ashtoons this week than I have in a whole long time
And I'm not above it by any means. I deserve it occasionally. So whatever anyways
I want to talk about ryan being the first dude to run a three on a 28 10 five. That's probably
That's one of the last milestones
In small tire racing. It's gotta be yeah, because look nobody's gonna run a two never
No
So, you know, I think you're gonna have your baby steps of your who's gonna be first in 380s. Oh, yeah
I mean, that's next for sure. That's like, hey, and it ain't far away. No, it is not far away
It's it's a it's a good track and some decent
My size already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thumbing at the mouth. Well, I mean, let's let's let's just be honest here
You went from
4o's right to what a 94 not even that
Dude, it went from 20s. Yeah, because look we are this time 20
Yes, and then teens and then didn't even go to the teens like he was in the teens for just a little bit
They're like they skipped all truthfully last year
So about when like, okay, let's be realistic when we really had time to run these cars
It was about when Kai and I put that that series that series together, right?
And that's whatever you did this from from the the og
In my but it's laps, right?
Like you guys are doing something else
We're making laps and that's the same and honestly that was the way it was for the whole
The whole small tire community a lot of people were chilling on the winter time
We were down south and we were just making laps Kai was making laps
You know Kai was out there going had a nitrous car in the shock a nitrous boat in the shocker going
102 60-foot so stuff like that, you know crazy that thing would have made more power
Uh, that car could have very built with the first and the threes. Yeah, um, but I remember the very first race
We went to was twin cities what this
It's been about a year ago now and uh, and we went a 409 and I want to say it's the first time we ever went a 40
Road, so it's been about a year ago to go 409. Um, the track was great
We had fought we fought a wheelie in the middle of the race track
We could only go about a 110 111 60 foot and but at that point I remember me and Kai going
Hey, somebody could probably we could probably go threes like just seeing looking at data and looking at mile an hour
Like hey, we go threes, but man, we didn't do it. Yeah
I mean we worked on the cars so we we had seven more races
From that point and I don't know we hovered in the
Oh nine to 13 or 15. Yeah, we hovered in that area and everybody did everybody did
Like right when you thought you were you know, you were doing something a little better than somebody else
Ryan Mitchell go something fast or the student baker would go something or the Preston's or the Preston's
There's there's going to be people I forget about everybody here is the who's who of small tires
I didn't realize that joey was as fast as what he was. Yes, but then
Come find out
You raced him at one race and he was running about the same thing you were staring at him the whole way
I just edged him out. Yeah that race that I went to 409
Uh, he he went a 410 if I remember 411. Um, and and it's some big mile an hour, right?
No, he had a
Boost 12. Yeah boost 12. Sorry. Everybody probably knows him as a boost 12. Yeah, uh, ryan hindricks
That car's fast same deal. He comes and when he goes to a small tire race, it goes 200 plus mile an hour
Man, he went like 204 this weekend. Yes, just with them mickey's just ripping apart. Yes
Yeah
Yes, that happens, uh, but let's be realistic. When it's not made those tires those tires came out 2002
When when people was probably going five-os. Yes trying to go five-os. Yeah with the same technology is now look what we're doing with them
Unbelievable that the tires lasted this long without having any problems is amazing
So what the fact that anybody can run the screw like you are on your car?
And what is the gear on that? Are you are you 128 with this?
So at the last race I was 92 over because of my head. I thought well, how fast is everybody really gonna go?
How fast do we need to turn this thing? How fast do we need to go when I go 92 over?
Well, when I looked at the clocks and I'm going 193 to 195
And I look at scott taylor who wasn't really going any faster than I was at the time
But I seen him going 199 200. I thought I'm behind right right away. He is spraying the shit out of that
But that's I mean that's horse power. That's horsepower. That's all it is. Yeah, so I knew at that point in time
I told the boys I said the next time we come back to this race. We will be 128 over. That's
Unbelievable to think on your turn in that blower harder than the pro mods out here are. Yeah on that tire
Yeah, and it goes to show you is on a tire
You have to crawl the thing out of the hole
But you can use all the dope at the big end. Well, man, look at lutes
Brian example lutes lutes
He's got a
Uh, a five speed lingo with a lock up and he leaves in fifth
Hang on M5 and I'm not taking nothing away from him because what he did was he went
I'm giving it the kitchen sink because I want to go try to outdo the record
Which he did right? I'll talk about that. But uh
M5
Nitrous 128 over lock up and like laco lock up
Unbelievable. There's nothing else you can give. That's all the cards. Yeah, there's no more. Yeah
We're not wondering why I pulled the rods into on this race ride. No, I know because he's out there making probably made
5000 horsepower. Yeah, you know because he's probably spraying eight or 900 horsepower to it and unbelievable
Even if he's spraying 200 he's spraying 40. Yes, you know, I didn't know who would be the person to do it
But after we went the 394 I told jamie
I said we cannot stay complacent if we want to stay on top because here's what's going to happen
There's no rules. Yep. So somebody's coming with 128 nitrous and I said
I need to get the intake off this thing and send it off and I called you we talked
I need to get a fogger put to this thing asap. I didn't have the car. We left the car here
So I couldn't make it happen
But you know what lutes said
I can make it happen. Yep, and that's what he did and he did smart. It was smart. He did. Yeah, you know, so
It's crazy to see those cars sitting up there at those big ass blowers and the hats sitting over them
On a tire this big
With purge and they're just coming out. I'm just here to tell you. I love it. No, it's it's it's awesome
Like the class is more exciting to me than promod
But I love promod and I'm like getting to love promod right and I'm gonna come race promod
But I love the fact that it's this is more outlaw than anything that I ever thought that we could try to do on this tire
The tire's gonna limit. We're gonna pour the power to it. Whatever it is. I mean, it's basically what we did it
mpk
On 28 10 5's what we did this last year. You have the same stuff. It's the same stuff. Yeah, so
I mean we've had them talked about it already the og's got to get the bigger blower
And it's got to get nitrous put on top of it and then we have to catch up to you guys
You know and it's unbelievable to think
Matt, I mean because when I say we're a few numbers behind you guys
We're a few tents behind you guys. We've been 20s is all we've been in that car
But like you said, we have not taken that car out and just beat on it and tried to get there
And listen the recipe is there now
Like you can look out look at scott taylor going to 95
Look at um cold like cars that have been in the 90s now that we know of myself colpez
Scott taylor and lutes and that's all that I know of that have been 90s. Okay. Kai's been like 401. Yeah
I think he went 401 this week, but I don't think he's spraying his yet either. He's not okay
And he's you too. I think are the only two that we're not purging at the at the line. Yeah, right. Yeah, so
It's quick. I think you guys will find it's going to be easy
Easier for y'all to get there because people have gotten there. Well, listen man
You know as well as I do that the biggest secret and the best thing which you guys know i'm not a no time guy
I think that the board should always be lit
But when you hear somebody went 390
That's your goal to go that you know it can be done
And and you're no different than me man
If I see somebody doing one thing just like I was so mad this week that I saw
Wasn't mad because jimmy taylor went 54 or whatever it was that he went
I was mad because he did it and I couldn't do it. Yeah, you know what I mean? So
One racer will set the bar and then you know what you got to go for
Yeah, and then you know in your mindset should be if that guy can do it I can do it
Well, that's why I had mpk. We don't care if people know what we run
We don't want to know what we run off the trailer
Yeah, because then that's the number that they're going to shoot for and everybody knew that whenever we unloaded the mpk car
That we if we couldn't run faster than a 78
off the trailer
What are you doing?
You know, even if the track didn't look like it was there
We were still going to try to run it and the game was always you never really talked about it
Yeah, right
That's the game because you didn't want everybody to know that that's the number that you got to go
We wanted those people to start off at a 90 or something and then take them a few passes to get where we started for many years
Most of them did I know
Yeah
Yeah, so
Look this and this race didn't disappoint
Everybody stepped it up a whole bunch of four
You know, there was a bunch of 409 to
415s at the last race and this was 395 to 405
It was it was it was I have a feeling incredible
I have a feeling that you're going to see an 80 by the next race
Oh people are going to be down here testing that what they're still going to have some good air
I'm going to try to do it for sure. So yeah
uh
There's
We always say it man. Where's the end? Where's the stopping point and nobody knows I don't see a big I do not
See it being real easy
After they go somebody goes an 80 something. It'll be real tough to go. Well, the next step is going to be
Tire technology's gonna say tires have got to catch up. Every everything else is obviously so far advanced and they're already trying
already trying, you know
Hoosiers already trying, you know
Everybody knows that we tried the the we like staying on the Hoosiers because we came from the streets
The Hoosier bites harder, you know, and that's also the same reason that people were taking the Hoosiers off the car
Yeah, because they're shaking them shaking them. Yeah
Um, and but look mickey tomson is aware that okay. These dummies are doing stupid things
28 and now we've got to do something wrong. Yeah, you know, so they're working on tires Hoosiers working on tires
Um, you know a lot of guys have some tires to test. I've got some tires to test
Who knows uh, who knows who knows what happens? I think that's it's going to be a
A lot of testing, you know, my my car needs rods
Um, Carson's car just got rods
There's a good possibility by the time we make it to this third race. They'll need rods again. Yeah, you know
So, okay, so if you've got tires to test, I know at this in the first race anyways
They had a list of tires that you could use
So if you go out there and you do good on that tire, are they gonna? I don't know
I haven't really paid attention. Do they have a do they have a I'm asking you like you would know
But do they have a tire?
A set of tires that you can run only on
There was there was three making part numbers and there was
Two or three Hoosier part numbers that you could run. Okay. Well, here's what's weird. Um, somebody told me Larry was on a
Uh
Phoenix Larry's off phoenix 28. Damn. See that's that's crazy
Like they're like and this was just at the first race. Sorry. This was just at the first race
They they they put it out there and there was a list of tires that you were allowed to use and they said it was going to be
Take
That's that was a surprise. We can talk about that. I was surprised about that. Um
And he was you know
Larry and I don't talk very much
But we talked a little bit before I was headed to the test session and before he was coming to this race
And I just kind of said hey, I've been testing. He's like I haven't really had any time
I was like, well, what's your plan for the upcoming race? He knew how fast we went
Obviously everybody did and he said man to catch up with you. I think I'm gonna have to have nitrous
I was like are y'all gonna put it on he said, yeah, I've got it down there. I'm gonna start working on
I'm gonna put it on and I don't think he ever sprayed it one time nitrous scares some people man
It really does. I'm not saying Larry's scared, but
I mean some people are just scared of it. Yeah, that's true. I was surprised
I was I was surprised that more
Oh number one. It was weird. I was surprised at the amount of screw cars that had it
Yes, same. I even thought yeah, the pro charger cars needed screw screw cars don't
Yeah, there wasn't one screw car at mpk. Even though we sprayed the balls off of ours all year
Well, yes, five races or whatever we had. Yeah, uh
None of the screw cars were I know
And I seen it coming
Yeah, yes, I seen it coming and I knew I was like man, I I you know somebody's gonna do that
It's gonna be it's gonna work. I mean, it's gonna work just as good as the pro charge stuff. Oh, yeah
And cold show some people say jim. How did it all the time? Yeah, we did hear about that. It was fast
Yeah, I mean I've seen it. He came around me a few times and I went damn you were like the nitrous on that thing
Yeah, but look cold pez
Just went two or four three times in a row. Yeah, that's got some violent hour
I mean the pjs motors always make huge power. I mean when they would stick at mpk, I promise you they had
A low e t of the event a couple times. Yeah, we agree. Yeah, I agree
So, all right, let's get to karson
So I thought we I thought y'all forgot it. So karson baker comes out here with the speedo cheeto
Tell tell him a little bit about yourself first like because I don't know, you know, I want people to know who you are
100% he missed out on his chance to get on the tv and people know who he is
You don't know anything about karson
As much as we've like hung out, you don't know anything really rich
Okay, um, so
Yeah, okay, um, so I'm karson uh from north carolina
I'm not even sure
We met at gallot. We did and
um
God, he just I'll tell a story on how it goes. No. Oh, so he just he just takes me
When I posted the number one qualifier. He said that navi got real expensive, didn't it?
and uh, so
One of my buddies ran a track gallot. What was the name?
blanking on his name ben
Yeah, it was ben where they ran gallot. Yep, and
Ben dover
So I don't think dover is this last name probably not his last name
So he calls me and he says hey ryan morten wants to buy uh navi or something and uh, I'm into day of work and I'm like, uh
He told him that for if you wear my shirt on tv. I'll give it to him. You know, I'm tired. Whatever. I'll say whatever
Ryan obviously was on speakerphone ryan grabs it. He's like, I'll tell you one better
We'll come to the store and you know blah blah blah and do a post and I'm like, all right, so we go up there
he comes and he says uh
Whatever shows I show him around the store
Show him the navi, whatever. Uh, he's asked for ever been to an mpk event. That was real expensive to go to that one
Not that day
In the future. It was free. It was free to get in for free. Yeah, I got in for free
Didn't he spend a lot of money?
Yeah, right. I was like, yeah, this this race thing's like worse than heroin. Yeah, uh, you can't get out of it either
It's like you're stuck. Yeah, so um, then we went to he's like, oh, what went to that event?
We went out to dinner or something. Um, he's like, you want to go to texas and I was I was whatever the next race
Yeah, might as well. So, you know, we figured out really quick. We're like, hey, he loves this
Yeah, like, you know, you get you can tell people come in and like you you'd kind of go. Yeah
I mean they thought it was okay or whatever. No, you can tell he was like ate up with it, right?
I'm like, hey, you want to go to texas with this? I was like the rag boy. That was like for real
He's like, oh, I'm the only ray. I'm gonna go is if you give me something to do
And I'm like, all right. Well, we'll find something for you to do. He's like, I don't care if it's clean the car
I just I want to I want to be I want to be there. I want to be part of the team
I don't want to do nothing and I want to go to this. So it came in this with us
Then we went and that was the ending season ending
It was a finale. Yep. So then we rode side by sides all winter. Yeah, and then
Because because you have a few side by side stores. Yeah
Tell tell them what you do for a living. I don't even know. I can't remember how much tell them. Tell them how you got so much money
Oh my goodness. Well, if I'd ever stop racing, I would but you know, yeah, he used to have some money
Yeah, I used to have some money now. It's out there. Yeah, so thank you for players for all the help you do
So, uh, no, I've got power sports stores and some Harley stores
Um
In north and south carolina. So we do, uh, you know the side by side some motorcycles
Um boats in wilmington. We do some of that stuff. So
Shit
Yeah
And then you two opened up and we have a tent shop in uh in wilmington also. Yeah, they're doing uh, they
They got into the car community just crazy and uh, so they do a ton of wraps. They do a arguably gay, but
One thing he shines at is he is really good at infiltrating the car community the cars and coffees
The super car guys and all that type of stuff. Well, that's who
I mean, it's for everybody, but like the whole ppf ceramic coat window tent
It's right. It's a craze right now for all the super car guys. It is and in wilmington, north carolina
There is a lot of super cars. There's a lot of super cars. There's a lot of dough there
And so we kind of we kind of we kind of picked on that market. We said, hey, we're gonna do it
We're gonna be the best that we can be at it. We had expels blessing. We have their backing
They helped us out like to get us off the ground floor and honestly that it's been it's been really good
They do a good job. They we have like the best installers. They've uh gave gave just a real likable guy
So when you walk in there, he just he smiles
So you're gonna smile you kind of mirror what he does and he just he's got a great way with those with those people
And yeah, he infiltrated the car community. Yeah, and since and since only we've been doing
Um, a lot of race car wraps and trailer wraps do trailer wraps and all that type of stuff
So that's pretty cool. But yeah, so we didn't it hadn't been very long that you know, I became friends
We're like, yeah, let's open a business. Yeah, that's dangerous sometimes it is but it's worked out
So then I got a I got a motorhome
And they politely
Took it everywhere so I could fly in so I could work
I flew in on fridays
Then I learned is I worked on his car for a year. Yeah, it just
Whatever hobby would teach me learned as much as I could and then I started looking at I was like, man
I think I can do this, you know, I've driven 800 horsepower street cars. I think I can totally same
4,000
Yeah, no big deal. Hey, these guys are dumb if I can do it. I can do it. That was pretty much what I thought
Shit, yeah, I'm way better at life than they are. Yeah, they could pull this off. I can't even afford to do it
Ryan probably tried to talk me out of it. I kind of did I kind of said, hey, man, you could you could I
I think I offered you to drive on a car. Yeah, you said you could drive one of my I could drive one of the two that you had
Well, because both of them were on big tires at the time because I hate to go like I didn't want to get him in the door
All this money figure out you don't like that. Hey, man by a stacker a toter a car
Spend all the right money on the car because he's only going to do it to be the most competitive spend two million dollars
And then let's go try this out. Yes. Yes. So I said, hey, like we're good buddies by now
We've got a business by now. I'm like drive on my cars. Don't get your own driving my cars. He's like, okay, cool
I still want one of my own cars
Okay, cool. No. Yeah. Yeah. So we bought a car appreciate it
Yeah, Ryan, which I'm not nearly as tall as ryan but about the same width and he was only record
I don't think he'd let you drive one of his cars
Really?
I'd like to drive one of my cars too
I've offered him, you know, you know the promo situation I'm in. Yeah, I'm hoping I'm thinking on driving that red pro
I somehow have two right now and I've offered him mine. Yeah, I mean, he's got a little bit under his belt now
He does, you know, also he can versus if he crashes that he can give me another one. That's the only way
That's the only way. Yeah
There's a few people like they hit me up. They said, hey, man, I know you got a lot of cars still
Yeah, he's like, don't forget me if you need somebody to drive a car
Now before the record, I told you no whenever you said I could drive your car
Yeah, you did. Well, good. I get it. No one's driven that pro mod yet
And I said, oh, what he wants me to do is drive the red one. So if it doesn't work or it's not fast
It don't make him look bad. That's what I'm even gonna. I'll line it out for you first. I'm good with that
That's even better. I'll take it. I'll take it out and me and jam. You'll try to get it right and make it run some numbers
And then you can jump in it. Yep. Then there's no excuse, right? No excuse. No excuse. Why don't qualify
But to speed this thing up, you went out and you dove off in it. Yeah, but we bought a car
Went and bought Derek Minholz. Well, before that we bought we bought a car. Oh, we did. I forgot about that. We bought Scott Taylor's car
Oh, yeah, and because we got about that too. Hold on. I gotta give Chris Rankin some some props on this
We bought that car. You were like, hey man, and I mean, Chris is kind of a he's about my height
Maybe yeah, and you were just like he's a little skinnier now. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little skinnier now. He cut up
He did. Yeah, he leaned out dramatically. Sure. I need to work on that
So he uh, but Ryan was like, man, I can't get out of this car real good
And I'm not as
Tall as Ryan, but I'm at least as wide. So it brand new car too. Never been down the track
Chris wanted to upgrade his car because I think he was still running the
The ruck. Yeah, right. So they put it on smalls and not to make you sound cheap
I'm gonna say this because I think this is how this went
We also had an option to buy Derek's car out the rip out the rip and we had and we had which is the orange car now
And we had the option to buy scott's car and scott's car was like 125
I have no clue what it was. Don't remember scott's car was really expensive. I'm excuse me
And then uh, Derek's car was really expensive and it was still really expensive
But it was term key in racing and this car was a roller. Correct
So you ended up with one of my stage five motors that I pulled out of the 69
And we got you mark micky training and blah blah blah and
Put that stuff all together and then and honestly, I forgot we put it in the car
Didn't yeah, I looked in the I kind of looked at the car and I think the car was built fine
But man, I couldn't get it out of it very good. And I worry about a new driver
I hate to say this crashing a car and then we can't get out of it upside down or whatever the case
I wasn't upside down sideways when I did it. No, we weren't talking about that. I'm saying the what ifs the what I understand
Yeah, what if you piled it up upside down and was on fire? I want to know that you get out of the car
I treat you like to be honest with you. I don't want to put somebody in a bad position
No, 100 they can't do something especially to my influence, right? Especially if they don't know anybody
Yeah, so I just said hey
I think we could move this chris ranken called me he called me and said I heard you bought scott's car
Is it for sale? I was like stand by it's what I called him and I said one plus at what point did he tell you?
You have mh7s and I have an mh5. This isn't gonna work
Had to have been around that time knowing what we know about those butters now
It would have been fine. It would have been right and has done with that. He's done. He won an event. It was yeah
Yeah, a dude fast. Yeah, he's been out on me before whenever he's had problems
Not up quickly. He got not only does that car work fantastic
It goes by 20 60. But it does but that mh5 with that blower nitrous works just as good as our mh7s with blower nitrous
Yeah, but still you know it is but still yeah, so so we said
All right, we haven't started it, but it could be upgrade time already. Yeah, right. So we worked on derrick a little bit on the price
We might have made a buck or two
On flipping scott's car to rank in and it kind of got us up there to there and you kind of went
I'll flip the dent. Well, I'll I'll spend the difference and we'll get a jerry bickle car that is spare no expense
Super nice your favorite color orange paint job
And in mh7 and the thing was ready. Yeah, it was ready. Yeah, and it is a very very nice car. Yeah
Yeah, it is and so karson, you got to you jumped head first into a badass ride that most people don't
It was i need and I get that then you go, but you go to uh, we
Rented the track. Were you there? Maybe one day? I think
Oh
It was in rockin ham. No, you know, no, that was yeah, that was way after I had plenty of laps
I just was an idiot and I said i'm gonna make the hit before the rain comes in
Um
We said go make the hit he thought he thought yeah, yeah, he thought he thought you meant hit the wall
Yeah, yeah 100% no your day your day that day was worse than mine. That was when um
Motor let go in rockin ham at test. Oh after the race. Oh, yeah, so, um
We we had the track for a couple days. We started with some like maybe like 260 foot hits
I think I jumped in it
You did you make sure before we turned it down to make sure it was good like what we didn't know
Derrick had just went out and went super fast with it
And so we were like well and he derrick's lost a ton of weight like i'm not you know, he was heavier back then
Yes, so then uh
So then the car was set up for a heavy driver a heavy driver
It's made of Carson at 220 or 230 getting in that thing and he at the time he was 300 and something pounds
And so we needed to get it me and him were closer to weight at the time
I think actually you were 240 or something. Yeah 250 and
And we wanted the thing to I didn't want to turn him lose something goes 370s
That's what it went. Yeah, so we backed we put a small blower on it
We backed it up and I made four hits and I said, all right. Here you go
Got it straight. We made what couple of 60 foot. Yeah a couple 330s james famous
I didn't tell him to go that far. Yeah a couple times then took it to the stride
Yeah, and then honestly to be honest with you that first test you look at my probe
Yeah, no it looked good. Yeah burnouts were nice and controlled
You know normally people just
He's totally went backwards in the world
He's got half the tire on the car. So I know I know it is tough to go from the big tire
Okay, we're good. So I'm watching I watch the green button and if the green button don't go off I'll figure I'm good
Yeah, yeah, 100% I didn't break any fast. Anyways, when you first came out you look like a pro
Yes, even I was like man a controlled burnouts. I was like, hey man, he's got it. He's got it
Some people and we say you either got it or you don't got it
There's some people that just don't ever have it and and you
You had it. You did good. Yeah had we can try to get it back. You still nice. I gotta get my brew back. Yeah
That tire spins a little bit easier than the big tires
Yeah, hey, that's not a big deal
Um, but then you went out and raced some mpk. Yep race mpk for what almost a year year
And they had I mean it was a year, but there was just less race. There was less race
And they had that thing where the new guys had to race the
What they call it that the small future the big future. Yeah
No, I don't think he was in it whenever we race futures. No, it was uh, I had to race a big tire twice
Big tire open and open and then that was kind of the
Then they let me go straight to go into the other side. Yeah, boom. There you are. Boom. There it was
Fast forward we get Ohio you kicked my ass
Oh, that was yeah, I made yeah, he did. I remember that car. So I was pretty upset my ass got out of the car
I was like, dude, I'm sorry. I was like, man
Don't tell me that. Yeah
That was real bad. He kicked my ass one time too. Yeah in the final in the final
So that means I won an event. He did he won the event. Yeah, I took I took I was in the winter picture with him
You did good. Um, it's in my house. We we were very mildly
Uh, you scuffed the wall with it once and testing. Oh, yeah, man. It's brush a mile an hour
You gotta go ahead and knock off the I was like, man, I told hobby. I was like, man
I don't like it when I tagged the wall. I don't think it was going that fast
I always like you pass the stripe at 140. Yeah, it's sideways. Yeah, that's amazing. Well, you don't think it's faster
You're doing that. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, we just were like, oh, we'll get this one last hit in for the rain
We'll do blah, blah, blah, and I was like, yeah, let's do it and then Sean was like, hey man
You mind spraying that before I make my hit
But yeah, a little sprinkle. Uh Larry Jeffers
Snuffed that in and fixed that super quick. Yeah. Yeah, like it never happened. It wasn't that bad
Like you could have turned into the wall and it would have been disaster, you know, but just sliding off of it
Yeah, it got the rear quarter fan. I wasn't that bad yet. And now
Here we are
And we're at
This would be called the winter series, right? And this is the first race that he's put the 3310 5w on
And how many laps do you have on that since you did that? Maybe 16
I don't even think that many, right? Well, we had we we went to oh, y'all came and tested. We did. Yeah, maybe 16 laps total
I would say that's pretty close. Yeah
And I would like to say that I think that that you and the car
Are like born to do 3310 5s
Man, so y'all y'all definitely
Definitely hit the ground running with that car. So what what is what is the the class record in that?
It's got to be 80
So in
So in so that class is called pro street now in pdra and fletcher set the record with a 382
Earlier this year with a nitrous car. Yeah
So I think they piled a bunch of weight on it. You know, 40 pounds. I think 40 pounds on him. Wow
Yeah, that's that that's pretty crazy
So you've never able to go to do that again
Because they they backed him off basically they were trying to they were trying to really upset about trying to slow the class down
Yeah, yeah, and so then it seemed like that class was
Well, him he was going 80 high 80s 88 to 92 was the realm for him. Yeah, yeah after that. Yeah
Yeah, so we brought the thing out
Um
And hell went a 99 with it by the third or fourth lick and I will tell you
We've talked about that car like on big tires
It it just doesn't have that really stuck to the ground like you know when our cars are right like it just
It's just on a string and it just goes and we haven't I don't know if we've perfected that with his car yet on big tires
But he's always managed to make it work. Well, it definitely doesn't have the laps that our cars doesn't
But man that thing on 3310 5's dude
Every rip it goes down the track. It goes perfectly straight down the middle right track
It's the craziest thing and and I mean it looked like it was we didn't change the four link
We didn't change nothing. We just bolted the wheels and tires. Yeah, we put wheels and tires on that was it. Yeah
We changed the third one bro. We did nothing
It's crazy. We changed the rear end gear. We finally did. That's right. That's right. Yeah, we changed the rear end gear
That was the two things that we had to do
I do like that class and I'll be honest with you. I've never ran that class
But I would like to I think it would be cool. It's pretty neat. So you told me I want to win that class
You know, that's what we should do and you set him up with a car that could win that class
I did. I did. I we talked about supercharger stuff and we talked about
Where he was at the time and so you kind of peeled off and and jumped off into the hearts thing
Yeah, and you had to bring that up the pro charger out for a hearts charger
And uh, man, they went out there and they killed it, you know, so so then you came down here. You actually left
All y'all's rigged and everything over here and left one day and went to test
So we went to a mickey thompson test session
So as long as you were on a mickey thompson tire, you could go to this test session
So I said, you know, of course we're on a mickey thompson tire. Are we coming right? So we tested the entire day
To the point of the mickey thompson's test session was over within five and we actually paid money to extend the test
Yeah, yeah, that's how it usually works. Yeah, and so we we tested from I would say 10 to 10 to 10. Yeah
made approximately seven laps
and
Got some good information. Kind of got it lined up. Yeah. Yeah in in seven laps. Um, he he was
Faster than most of the cars. Yeah. So he comes down here. He goes number one qualifier in this race
Not not not the first
Not the first qualifier
Literally we were faster number number four and the fourth qualifier you picked up the
The number one qualifier and got a bad ass bad. I think it's cool. Did you see that?
Took it took it from Fletcher is what you did. So Fletcher Cox guys for for the record, uh, you know
Eagles, you know, Philadelphia Eagles the champ, you know, Super Bowl champion Fletcher Cox. So yeah, so
Fletcher had it going in the fourth round. Yes the guy that was right in front of me
Um, uh, no
Last chance qualifier or last qualifier
He went out and uh got a number on Fletcher. So he went and uh, not a number
Thousands beat him by
There you go, yes, so then I came right behind him and put a put a number on put a number
Yeah, a full number so so you ended up going 388 with a four with a four 388 with a four
I don't remember mile an hour. I think you're right. I don't know. I have we look at so many numbers
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously not his reaction. Here you go. So yes. Yes
No, I know it's coming. Here you go, sir. Here's your awesome bat, which that bat is awesome. It was awesome. Yeah
And we're we're fans of victus anyways, everybody knows if you've been following us for very long
We have got to hit
in victus's batting cages where all the professional guys go in and try out baseball bats
And uh, adan did not get to go with us. He was still playing
But he's got like three or five bats from him. He does have like four or five bats
victus used to send adan baseball bats throughout high school and once he uh,
Got into college. So
They're fans of ours. We're fans of theirs. I should have brought the bat and put it up there
Because that was like my one thing, right? Yeah, it's in the truck, but so
you have
Obviously the the baddest hot rod in the class kind of seems like he's got the class cut kind of seems like kind of seems like it's
kind of seems like he's a shoe in
We kind of thought like hey, my class is gonna be tough for me to win because there's some heavy hitters in here
But he's got this under. I think this does wrap up. Well, it was
388 with a four at 195
So it's kind of
You kind of had your class
Covered till you got here and then it kind of flopped and and they ran you
Him never been in the car. Never cars never ran the class. He comes in and
Everyone
Yeah, they went who the hell is this guy? Yeah, you know and and what is he doing? Yeah, so
There's a terminology that you use sometimes that I don't want to use it right now, but it's really funny
And it and it yeah, we're too you're too deep into that. Now you gotta tell us go ahead
To a tee. Oh, yeah with the ten inch phallus. Yes. That's it. That's it. I don't even know what it means
We go ahead and just rip the vandals here
Okay, so you know in the first round
And who do you get the guy that won? What's his name?
I didn't eventually go
So the guy that was qualified number two. Yeah, and how they do this guys is qualifying you drew the number two
Yeah, you're as bad as these two at drawing. He was number one. He drew the number two qualifier
Well, let Alexis go do it. I was like she's got to have better luck than
Right. Yeah. Yeah, I just did my butchers last name. Yeah, I did probably so
So you get the number two guy, you're the number one guy like you're the man
Oh, yeah, the guy you're the one that everybody is shooting to beat. Mm-hmm. You've got a hundredth on this guy. Yes
Yeah, but in the actual race three three. Yes, so
We're already ripping the band
Before we talk about you know who won or who didn't win, you know, what did you run whenever you race this guy?
Then 88
No, I might have been 89
Thank you at 89. 89. He went to 91. What's your what's your rate? So you went 52 55
Man can't find it
So that we can go off them numbers
So you go up there in the first round and put up
In the heat in the heat in the heat put up the pretty much running very very close to the same number
which you qualified with
He must have seen the reaction time. It was terrible
Of course, it's on the right left. Yeah, it was terrible. Damn
It wasn't as bad as it was not as bad as Fletcher
So you go up there and you go 104 to the 60 foot
So the guy that you're racing goes 108 to the 60
You go Miller had it dialed in you go
265 with a three to the 330 which
Pretty damn good
He goes 269 with a seven. That's all behind by four numbers
Yeah behind at the 60 foot by four numbers. So at the eighth mile you pull out a 389 with a two
I mean, look at the mile just real close. They have mirror
He goes 391 with a two
Terrible okay two full numbers
Man, look at his mom. Oh, he's turbo car. There's always a car. So you go 198 17
Man, that's a mile an hour right there in the heat in the in the heat of the day. Yeah, so
He goes 207, you know turbo car deals, you know
He has a reaction time of a o 52 light which
Don't say too much. Yeah, I'm not gonna say too much because I go 50s all the time. Yeah, I consider that for spending all the time
I'm okay. No, sometimes I go worse and and you know, it happens. It happens
But you go a 170
That's a very suspenseful trip to that one
171 light which puts the margin which puts the margin of victory
point
0997 now almost one. Let me tell you what happened here. Almost a tense
I don't know that we've talked about what happened here. I haven't because I need to know. Okay. Well, here's what happened
If a turbo guy comes to you
Oh, I'm asking you this question. Did he ask turbo fuck you at the beginning? He did not ask me
I just that Carson. He did not ask. They had a whole discussion on how he was gonna stay
Turbo guy should never do that. He did not. No. No. No. He did not ask me
It would be worse if you asked him. No, I did not ask him
I just said, hey not gonna play any games with you and he was like all right
I appreciate that and he came like we he came to
So Kevin you're crew chief. Yes. Is that's not his story?
Kevin's crew Kevin's story is he came to you to work out staging and you were really nice to him and we're like
Yeah, man, whatever you need to do. Well, that's probably accurate. Okay. That's the problem
Yeah, I try to know he is because he doesn't know any better about this. Well, I'm gonna be a you know
What did he say that he was gonna do?
Well, I just automatically assume he's gonna go in second you give him the opportunity
So you just told him that uh
I like going in first anyway
No matter if people know that or not
So then you're y'all comfortable and whatnot then with these turbo cars, which I don't think you are gonna be turbo much longer
I don't know. You can I don't know what you're gonna do. We let that
That's out the back. Hey, you know that was that was a shawm deal. That's what shawm does for everybody
No, he does. No. Hey, you definitely repaid him for something. He's gonna do to you. Well, he's already done it
Oh
I know
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it regardless. Yeah, so
In the bulb flickers, what are we doing?
He he always tries to make you feel uncomfortable. Yeah, I always feel like we gotta rush it up
It's a good teaser to the next one. Yeah, it doesn't matter
Yeah, I didn't say what you were going to talk about it anymore. You might be doing nitrous. Yeah
Hey, he does
Yes, he does and you and him are buddies. Oh, they're teammates. Oh, yeah
Well, he's gonna you just said you just rolled nitrous. Maybe he should do the same thing as their teammates. What do you think? You could be going screwed
I don't know
I could be you could be if I could borrow one from him. There you go. No, you can't go. I got that one
We'll have three
In two years. What three I said, we will have three we have two right now. All right, so what did he say to you back to it?
I don't remember what he said
Here's what when it starts flickering then you're like you jump on the
Flickered the bulb on you. He just flickers and then you're and it just gets you off. We got off my game and I just
All weekend besides that one with fletcher all weekend good good enough
Good good enough flickers the bulb on somebody with the turbo car
It was good enough
But that thing flickered a couple times and he just throws you off your then it is what it is man
I mean, I was pretty upset with myself because everybody did their job. Can one one 71 is thrown off like
Something had to happen for me. Like look at like you're like maybe you fell asleep in the car
Maybe
Bumped your head get in and even you passed out. I have to do that and I understand I I've been there
But this is what I got and this is what I did to myself laying in bed at night is exactly what I'm doing to you
You know like I beat myself up until until you redeem yourself
Like you are gonna feel horrible about this until you tree
Whoever you raise somebody. Yeah, probably. Yeah, right. It might be me
So I that was my that was my highlight in that whole thing
I was like I even treat him but because I think you were it was a 0.063. I was a 0.060
When we uh, when we at maple grove
Yeah, I did by that. Yeah, 300 but but when it counted
No, just normally I'm okay
I'm not something like killer on it and but normally
In your groove and we all we've all talked about this
I I felt all the small tire guards a lot of them are having a hard time cutting tree cutting tree down
I do in the small time car and I not this have the moment down
And so but at this point in time next you're gonna start to realize whatever that is that you need to focus on it
Like for me, it's stare a hole through the top yellow bulb. That's how I can make myself do it
You know and and at this race I got progressively
I was going from shit to progressively better by the end and what card didn't do what I'm supposed to do
But that's another thing, but that's the things that you can work on to get better. You've done everything else great
I was so paranoid about it. Yeah
I've been racing for a long time and I'm still paranoid about it. My lights were shit all week
Until it mattered. Yeah, but when it mattered you got I went 012 against stevie. Yeah, you know, so
I said, no, he got me. He went 011. He still treat me
But I left with him and hey not as bad not as bad as what he normally would have if I'd have cut my 040 light
You know, so but yes, it's it's
It's no racking in the car the worst part is it all there's no one to blame it on it's all you right
That's right. So yeah, if you lose on a whole shot, it's all you man
And there's nothing and then you feel bad because the tuner did his job the car did its job
Your crew did their job and then you as a driver owner driver, you know
Man, oh, I said everybody makes you feel bad. Oh, yeah, I was like, I appreciate what y'all did
I freaked out man and the old guy, but it happens to everybody. There's nobody in this parking lot that it hasn't happened to
You didn't get a text
I'm gonna get maybe it's still flowing around
Yeah, it's in the cloud. It's in the cloud. The service is bad out here. I get it
There's nobody in the parking lot though. You know to help you out a little bit here
There's nobody in the parking lot that this hasn't happened. Oh for sure. You know, man
It sucks to everybody and and trying to be a good teammate. I mean I meant what I said, but I knew I know he's over there just
Mad yeah, he was like give him two days. He'll be all right. I told I told Alexis
I said look man, he's gonna it's gonna bother him for two days and then he'll be totally good over anything
Yeah, and it is what it is. It's you're worse on yourself when you are full control
And you are the only person to blame
Especially when you know, you have a hot ride people are talking about it. Yeah that you already call some a stir because you might have
switch power adders
And we did go out my number one
So it came down to the power adder did what it was supposed to you're still green
The driver did not you know and that's part of learning racing dukey green apparently
What happens what you do now is you come back out in our test in our test session and
For two days you work for your life. Yeah, 100%
So it'll be all right. Yeah, we'll be back in February. This is a fun event. Oh, I had a great time
The atmosphere here is is pretty cool. I see
What every what west is trying to do here, you know, and and it is amazing man
And you know, we've talked about this numerous times with me and you
I hate going places and not making money, you know
And it sucks because all we do down here is spend money
It is and there's no way to make money back. It is the most expensive like
Drag racing is different for us than it is for other people
It doesn't mean we're special doesn't mean anything just means the lifestyle that we're used to which is we go places to make money
That's right
And and for years if you saw us out at race or if you saw us out at mpk, we were we were making money
You know, that was our job is our livelihood. We're we're collecting a paycheck to go do that
And and if you got any type of a business mindset whatsoever, you don't want to stay away from that
Yeah
And but there's a point in time where you
Want to enjoy yourself and do things that other people are doing even though maybe it does cost you some money
And that's what we're at this rate. That's what we're doing here
A lot of money, but that's also the reason that we're doing that that outlaw syndicate, you know, like
We're gonna try to do something for ourselves. Yeah, that's right. You know have fun. Yeah show the racers a good time
Show the fans a good time. We want to I think prove to ourselves and and look let's let's let's try out the promoting side
You know, like there's no telling what we can do
Me and Carson got some cool ideas and some burnout wars or some things like that
I won't take the name because that's already there. But yeah burnout style
shootout type thing and things like we we want to get to the promoting side and be heavier
More in all of us together be heavier involved in it
And I'm not gonna say stop racing
But just go hey, this is our way to make money while we're watching and doing the things that we love to do
And maybe at the same time giving all of our guys a spot to come race with us, you know
Like these guys work their ass off years, you know
And never get to let go the blood and get to let go the blood
I got to do to my pit y'all know ricky
That is the most diehard drag racer
Yeah, and his dad's got three or four cars and I've got three or four cars he could drive it
He doesn't he's racing with me so much. He can't really go enjoy himself in a race. I know
But whatever we're at home. He's out on the streets. Yeah, you know, like or he'll come home and tell me ricky was out there
And I was like, oh, yeah, you hung out with ricky all night. Oh, yeah, you know
Uh, but like if I'm home for two weeks, he'll be racing with his dad for two weeks
So, you know, though
I think this thing that we're doing is gonna give I'm gonna try to get his dad could come
That's what I'm gonna try to do. I'm gonna try to get his dad to come out
And I'm gonna try to get him to come out
I'm gonna if I need to give him a car I'm gonna give him a car to drive
But I just think that it's a way for us to make money see fans do something that we're good at
Try to put on a little bit less stressful than what I mean because guys even this race right here
I've been stressed out all week, you know, like it's stressful man because we feel like when we show up
We gotta win
No matter what you're racing. That's exactly right
And I'm telling you right now if I get in the little gangsters class
There's nothing in me that says I should win this because it's not what I do
Like I don't know how to bracket race. I don't know how to pedal it at the end. Sounds pretty good at it
You know, I know I don't even want to get next to that white truck
You know, but that'll even be funner, you know, like if I draw a phantom and he puts me on the trailer
Yeah, I won't get
I I do get mad when I get out of the car after I lose not in the little gangsters class
You know now maybe once it's kind of like golf once you think that you get good at it
Then you might get mad, you know, but I don't think I'll get there. Good at golf. No
No, so
But anyways, that's basically what I wanted to talk about like is there anything that that we missed like I mean
We had a good time down here. Is it anything else happened that?
I think we're pretty much caught up on the current events of of what we've got going on with drag racing and and everything else
I mean, we got to talk to Ryan about his three-second pass
And like obviously your next goal is to go into three eighties. It's like three eighties. Yeah
I mean you look I knew that that three 90 deal was was not
We're all it was coming. It was there was and like honestly
We were here to focus on on that orange pro mod and I told james like while we're here
Why don't we see if we can bust this thing out and do we you know, try to do something cool with it
And we did and I'm sure we're gonna do the same thing with that pro one again with that car
Yeah, so so let me ask you this then with that with that being said
You are gonna line out that orange pro mod for this next that is for world series of pro mod
Which is the next one guys and it's the last race is it 23rd?
It's it's February 26 or the 28th. Do we have a full month?
Okay, so we have a full 30 well, we have three weeks we have to be here and start testing. Yeah
Okay, so
You're gonna have that car here. Yes. Are you gonna have the fireball here? Yes
You're gonna race three cars out of this pit then because he's gonna be here with yes
Yes, 100% listen. They're already sitting in the pit. Anyway, it's the only differences
We gotta shuffle a couple cars around to get them out. But yeah, that's what we're gonna do
Now now I'm gonna tell you the same thing. I told you what the turbo deal I don't come out here and go 59 or better
I ain't I'm not even gonna put in the class
Yeah
What's the weather gonna be like with the next one?
It's gonna be days away. How's that? It's gonna be cooler, right?
Cooler. I'm thinking
Not by that look it. Uh, I know but I would assume so last year, you know, if we want to go off last year
Which is really all I can do
You guys make sense. I like it. Yeah, I yeah, he's an excel guy. I like it. Um
About the same. Okay as as what this week was so, I mean, you know
That if people go home and get their shit together like they should then the bumps level would be 58
Last year at this race, the weather was way better though
Like we ran pretty much in the 990s all week as far as the air went. So well testing for us was a better air
Sure. Yeah
What sucks on that on something like this is if you watched
We were testing monday through whatever wednesday q1 was in on thursday, right?
So everybody got a hit with good air and then the air progressively got worse the rest of the
Number one qualifier in all of our stuff was the first qualifier. Yeah. Yeah
It's tough to catch up after that point
Yeah, so you got to come off the trailer. Yeah
ready, you know
I think that I I think both of us like to I mean, I think all of us here like to race in
elite situations and this is the most elitist drag racing group you can get absolutely and
And to to qualify
Um at this event you've qualified at the last two that is an accomplishment
It's special man. Just to cut just just to do it. Yep. Now your dream is to go farther than one round
And you know with turbo combos. It's hard to do that. Uh, to be honest with you with anything out there to do that
There's so freaking tight, you know
the the
Somebody might be able to tell me real quick what the range of number one qualifier number 43. Yeah, really
Oh, 43 there you go between 32 cars that is unreal
I guarantee you can stretch it out further than that too because the ones that didn't get in there
Was people that went 59 and didn't make it in well
We went 358 with an eight and so did someone else the only reason we were qualified higher than it was because
What where does it I don't we always say this and it's never stopped
But where does it stop like when do we go? Hey?
Yeah, this one wasn't faster this time this year this year the qualifying buck was not faster
I feel like it's just gonna keep rolling. I don't know how it's doing. It's crazy, man, but honestly I
I don't know that I want it to keep rolling like are we gonna start running 49
Someone will run a 49
I don't think this year
Do what it's gonna be a turbo car. It is it might be it might be jim and taylor's
It might be it might be and that may be the only thing they do
And and not and honestly, I'm not knocking them for that. I mean they they had some problems
We talk about turbo problems. They've had their fair share turbo problems
You know, they don't talk about and I don't want to take anything away from them because I'm not what they did was
The records they have said is unbelievable. It's amazing
I don't care if they tested two weeks and spent 500 grand to do that
It's still amazing. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Absolutely
But what you don't know is all the trials and tribulations that they had to do to get to them
They worked their ass off. Yeah, and spent their ass off. Yeah, they went through
Parks and time and well, I mean he came over and got some oil from us because he's staying here this week to test
Yeah, there you go
He's he got some heart man. We raced with him. Yep in mpk and I never saw this side of him
But to see the fierce competitor going to set records and doing all the stuff that he does
It's a it's another side of him that I think is pretty cool. Yep. Absolutely. Well, we watched him one year
I mean we didn't watch him do that but one year
at uh
Duck's race duck's race
He had his Cadillac and they swapped it from a pro charge combo to a screw combo in the parking lot in the parking lot
And then he raced it and then he raced it. I remember that so
Yeah, it's just one of their year ago. I think yeah, maybe maybe two years maybe I mean we weren't there at the race
But he
He swapped it. Yeah
All right. Well, how long have we been doing this aiden?
It was 10 minutes before the first cut and we're at hour and 35
Do people watch these podcasts for two hours? Oh, yeah
No, I mean I would now probably not one sitting. Yeah, I can't really see that data, but yeah, they watch it
Cool. I'll put you up on like a half a screen
Which as I'm working. Yeah, because I just want to see what what's gonna come out next. Yeah
anything else
I think that's it man, um
Obviously, we got a lot to do to get ready for the next race. It is very very cold at home
We're gonna sit here for at least until tuesday today sunday the race just ended
Probably just gonna chill tomorrow freaking frozen at home. It is frozen at home and I'm not
We said this in the in the past guys. We're not ice road truckers
We're not gonna brag to everybody that we drove through
You know two inches of ice or 18 inches of snow. That's not us. We're not gonna do it. We're gonna pull over
We're gonna push the air brakes and we're gonna hang out until it's gone
So I'm just not gonna do it
So we're gonna hang out here for a couple of days and then we're gonna get home and
And we've talked about it man. We're gonna go to work. We're going to we're gonna
Do whatever we can to be more consistent
and
Go rounds we've shown that we can run and we can qualify with the baddest motherfuckers on the planet
now we got to go rounds
so
And anybody that knows anything about everybody that's sitting in this room right now
We will do whatever it takes to win and we're not gonna stop doing that. So
Whatever it takes whatever it takes. So obviously, you know, we got some videos coming at y'all here pretty soon
We'll show you what we got going on
Ryan the same way he's gonna be out here testing trying to hit that 380 mark on the 2810 5
Carson's ordered a practice tree so that he can be ready for the next race
Hey, look, I got one at the house and eight makes me do it all the time
Literally eight makes me do it all the time. He said he was doing it. Yeah on his phone
I was before and in the car before doing it and I hit 10 of them in a row. I was good. I was like, all right
Put my phone up
Just the settings on that
No, we went all the way down to summit one time and bought a practice tree
We got the real deal the whole tree in the shop. Maybe that's what I need to do
Yeah, probably helps. Yeah, I'm gonna do something
I mean, he'll walk out of the shop sometimes to go get another his fourth
Diet or pepper of the day or of the morning and he'll stop at the tree and play with a button a couple times
I have one. I have the little uh,
Porta tree or whatever they call it. I inhaled one. You just keep one of those in his back seat. It sits on my desk
Yeah, but apparently I need to order a whole truck with the living room. Yeah, there you go
He's gonna tell me that I really want steering wheels on mine and then get the right one fuel tech, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but mine is just you just hold it and you just you know, but it's not really like
You need a building to see and steering wheel holder. Oh, yeah, that'd be pretty cool
Anything that you can do just the repetitiveness, you know and and the more you do it obviously
But you got to think about where we came from. I came from the streets. I came from arm drops. I came from flashlights
I never learned how to cut lights at trees to instant greens, but honestly, I really feel like that made us better at doing this
I think so too. I think the instant greens once we started going
But I didn't do as much mpk as you did. You know what I mean? Like before I started mpk
Go off of trees. Yeah. Yeah, I was a testing tour until I got on a flashlight helped you once you finally went to
Was one of the first flashlights was pointed at you. Yeah. Yeah, I mean if it wasn't pointed at you, it was a little harder to see, you know
But who's counting is like this? Yeah. Yeah
He always got local by the homies every now and then when he was a dude guy coming in
I was the homie though. Yeah
I know I was saying I got local by the homies
Home cooking is what we really used to call it. So
Anyways, we appreciate y'all watching man. We just wanted to have them on and and clear up all the
You know, we we learned some stuff too, you know from Carson about our series this year
So, you know, we all learned a little bit. Yeah, but y'all can replay it if you need to we're excited about that
Yes, that's gonna be a blast. We're excited that you guys know that we're doing it and now we're gonna drop schedules on all of our social media
Yeah, so stay tuned. Yeah, stay tuned. It's our number one priority guys. Just let everybody know
And we're gonna make this race
Series is our number one priority this year. It's like it's like our mpk. It is our street outlaws now
So we're gonna do whatever we can
Also, if you want to come to these races
Put it in the comments. Let us know what what you would like to see at these races
Maybe there's another class out there that's really awesome that the locals like to do, you know that we don't know anything about
You know or something that you've seen in a track that somebody did one time that was really awesome, you know
We'll figure it out. We'll make we'll make something for everybody. I think that's the biggest thing that
We can see the comments. So make a comment in there and
We actually put it in the comments, but we actually read it and we can make a change at mpk
Anything we wanted to change was like we couldn't make it. No, this is this is this is on us
And then we can if it's like, oh man, that'll work. Yeah, we'll do it
So
Yeah, that good feedback is is 100
We'll let you know when the tickets are on the vote
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About this episode
Ryan Martin and Carson Baker dive into the exciting world of small tire racing in this episode, discussing their new series, the Outlaw Syndicate. They share insights on upcoming races, class formats, and the thrill of competition. Ryan reflects on his recent racing experiences, including a close call with a turbo competitor, while Carson recounts his journey from a novice to a top contender. With a mix of humor and camaraderie, they explore the challenges and triumphs of drag racing, all while gearing up for the next big event.
We’re joined by Ryan Martin and Carson Baker to talk about what’s next now that No Prep Kings is officially over.
We introduce everyone to our brand-new small tire race series, Outlaw Syndicate, break down the 2026 schedule, and talk about where small tire racing is headed.
Ryan walks us through his historic first-ever 3-second pass on 28x10.5 slicks, what it took to make it happen, and why it’s such a big deal for small tire racing. We also put Carson on the hot seat to find out what happened at the US Street Nationals — how he qualified #1 in Pro 10.5 and still managed to cut a brutal light and miss the win.
Unfiltered conversations, real racing talk, and behind-the-scenes insight you don’t get anywhere else.
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