MP 1693: The Week In IndyCar Listener Q&A April 24 2026
About this episode
Long Beach IndyCar listener Q&A covers Jim McAleon’s lasting impact on the event’s “festival” blueprint, plus nitty-gritty race-control debates from the Acura Grand Prix. Marshall digs into why the start wasn’t waved off correctly, and a push-to-pass restart software glitch that let 12 drivers use PTP when it should’ve been off—contrasting it with the earlier Penske-related controversy. The show also breaks down Alex Palou’s pit-stop consistency, Will Power’s likely turnaround timeline, and Chris Kyle Schumacher’s early learning curve. It closes with a deep dive on Indy 500 bumping disappearing amid charter-era entry economics.
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Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach
"Welcome to the Marshall Pruitt podcast and your week in IndyCar listener Q&A show coming out of the Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach. Got to see a couple of y'all..."
This is a big IndyCar race in Long Beach, California. It’s run on city streets, and it’s one of the more important events of the season.
The Acura Grand Prix of Long Beach is a major IndyCar race held on a street circuit in Long Beach, California. It’s a key stop on the IndyCar calendar and often sets the tone for early-season form.
IMS in May
"...says hope to see you at IMS in May, without a doubt Jeremy, that's really sweet of you..."
IMS is Indianapolis Motor Speedway. It’s where IndyCar’s biggest events happen, especially around May.
IMS refers to Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the home of the Indy 500 and a central venue for IndyCar. When the host says “IMS in May,” it’s pointing to the season’s biggest stretch and the buildup to the Indy 500.
Indy Open Test
"flying out Monday for the Indy Open Test, be there all day Tuesday, the vast majority of Wednesday, catch the last flight home Wednesday evening"
It’s basically a big practice session for IndyCar teams. They use it to test changes and get the cars ready for racing.
The Indy Open Test is a track testing event associated with IndyCar, where teams run cars to evaluate setups and gather data. It’s typically where you’ll see the most current cars and technologies before the next race weekend.
IMSA action
"driving straight down to get old Laguna Seca, weather tech raceway Laguna Seca for some IMSA action, so fun times ahead y'all"
IMSA is a major sports-car racing series in the U.S. “IMSA action” just means they’re going to watch sports cars race at the track.
IMSA is the sports-car racing organization that runs multi-class events in North America. “IMSA action” here implies they’re attending an IMSA weekend with prototype and/or GT-style race cars.
Laguna Seca
"driving straight down to get old Laguna Seca, weather tech raceway Laguna Seca for some IMSA action"
Laguna Seca is a race track in California. The hosts are saying they’ll drive there for an IMSA race weekend.
Laguna Seca is a famous road course in California (not a car), known for its elevation changes and the “Corkscrew” corner. In this segment, it’s referenced as the venue for IMSA racing.
Long Beach Grand Prix
"is obviously the passing of Long Beach Grand Prix President Jim McAleon, affected the entire weekend, but where are spectators most likely to see his imprint"
Long Beach Grand Prix is a big race event on city streets in California. The hosts are talking about how it grew over time and became a major racing weekend.
The Long Beach Grand Prix is a major motorsport event held on a street circuit in Long Beach, California. In this discussion, it’s framed as a multi-era event that evolved from early street racing into a world-class open-wheel race and later expanded to include sports cars and other categories.
street race
"this thing started off as a street race in a very seedy Long Beach area, developed into a world-class Formula One race"
A street race is when cars race on regular public roads. The point here is that Long Beach started out like that before becoming a real racing event.
A “street race” is racing that takes place on public roads rather than a purpose-built track. The hosts use this to describe the early origins of the Long Beach event before it became a professional, world-class race weekend.
Formula One race
"developed into a world-class Formula One race, really took off as a kart IndyCar series race"
Formula One is the highest level of open-wheel racing. They’re saying Long Beach once hosted that kind of top-tier racing.
Formula One (F1) is the top level of open-wheel racing, with teams competing in a global championship. The segment notes that the Long Beach event at one point hosted F1-level racing, highlighting its prestige and evolution.
champ car event
"evolved into a champ car event and then moved into what we know today as the IndyCar series"
Champ Car is an older name for a previous era of American open-wheel racing. They’re using it to explain how Long Beach changed over time.
“Champ Car” refers to the CART/Championship Auto Racing Teams era of American open-wheel racing. The hosts mention it as one of the historical stages the Long Beach event went through on its way to today’s IndyCar identity.
IndyCar series
"evolved into a champ car event and then moved into what we know today as the IndyCar series"
IndyCar is a major open-wheel racing series in the U.S. The hosts are saying Long Beach is mostly known for IndyCar today, but it used to be more than that.
The IndyCar series is a premier American open-wheel racing championship. The hosts describe how the Long Beach event evolved into what people now associate with IndyCar, while also expanding to other racing types.
American Le Mans series
"then the American Le Mans series prior to that, big feature race on Saturday"
The American Le Mans Series was a sports-car racing series in the U.S. The hosts are saying it was part of the history leading up to modern IMSA weekends.
The American Le Mans Series (ALMS) was a North American sports-car racing series that used rules and car classes inspired by the 24 Hours of Le Mans. The segment lists it as a predecessor to what IMSA became, showing the lineage of sports-car racing at these events.
GT
"then some sort of touring cars or GT are similar and then adding in Robbie Gordon's jumpy trucks"
GT usually means race versions of normal sports cars. The hosts are saying Long Beach has featured different kinds of race cars over the years.
GT typically refers to Grand Touring race cars, a class of production-based sports cars used in endurance racing. In this segment, it’s mentioned as one of the types of cars that appeared at the Long Beach event as classes changed over time.
Robbie Gordon's jumpy trucks
"and then some sort of touring cars or GT are similar and then adding in Robbie Gordon's jumpy trucks and historic, right, changing classes each year"
Robbie Gordon is known for off-road and stunt-style racing, and “jumpy trucks” points to a truck-based entertainment element rather than pure road-course racing. The hosts use it to emphasize how the Long Beach weekend added different categories and spectacle over time.
Long Beach race
"...been there anytime and called the modern era, you know that Long Beach is something that wears your behind out... concerts at night, drifting as well, Formula D at Long Beach there..."
Long Beach is a famous IndyCar street-race weekend. It’s known for lots of things happening beyond just racing, so the whole event feels like a big “vacation” experience.
The Long Beach Grand Prix is a street-racing event that mixes on-track action with off-track entertainment. In this segment, the hosts use it as an example of how the weekend’s schedule and atmosphere can shape what fans experience.
Formula D at Long Beach
"...at least, concerts at night, drifting as well, Formula D at Long Beach there, [394.4s] I mean just up and down..."
Formula D is a drifting series. The hosts are pointing out that Long Beach isn’t only about IndyCar—it also features drifting, which adds variety for fans.
Formula D is a drifting competition series, and it’s mentioned here as part of the Long Beach weekend. That matters because it highlights how IndyCar events can share the venue with other motorsport disciplines, changing the overall fan mix.
waved off
"Sam and Idiotus, how you doing Sam says, why on earth was the initial start of the Long Beach race not waved off with the large gap after the first six cars..."
Sometimes race officials decide the start wasn’t right—maybe cars are too spread out or something looks unsafe—so they cancel it and restart. That’s what “waved off” means.
A “waved off” start means officials cancel the initial green-flag attempt and reset the field due to an unsafe or unacceptable situation. The discussion here is about whether the Long Beach start should have been waved off after a large early gap.
pit lane
"...spoke with a very senior official on pit lane towards the end of the race and they brought up how bad the start was..."
Pit lane is the area where teams work on the cars during a race weekend. The hosts are saying officials talked about the start issue there near the end of the race.
Pit lane is where teams service cars and where officials and team personnel communicate during a race weekend. The segment mentions a conversation on pit lane toward the end of the race about how bad the start was.
starter's feet
"...everybody to be lined up and just kind of crawling beneath the starter's feet before the green flag is thrown. You also do want to throw it after barely any cars..."
Before the green flag, cars line up and wait in a controlled way. The point they’re making is that officials need to time it so the field forms properly—without making it drag on too long.
This refers to the controlled start procedure where cars stage and creep into position under starter control before the green flag. The hosts emphasize there’s a “middle ground” timing-wise: not too early (chaotic) and not too late (slow, crawling formation).
hairpin
"get through the hairpin. There's a middle ground, don't throw it too early, it screws things up for way too many drivers, don't wait too long, otherwise the percentage likelihood of a big old curblamo happening in turn one"
A hairpin is a super tight corner. Cars have to slow down a lot and turn sharply, so it’s easy for cars to get bunched up and cause crashes.
A hairpin is a very tight, slow-speed corner that forces cars to brake hard and turn sharply. In racing, it’s a common place for congestion and mistakes because cars arrive close together and drivers have limited room to maneuver.
curblamo
"otherwise the percentage likelihood of a big old curblamo happening in turn one with more or less the whole field showing up at the same speed real close to each other"
“Curblamo” is basically slang for hitting the curb. When you hit curbs hard in a race, it can throw the car off balance and sometimes leads to damage or a spin.
“Curblamo” is a slang way to describe hitting the curb—often violently—during a corner. In racing, curb strikes can unsettle the car, damage tires/wheels, or trigger spins, especially when the field is packed.
Long Beach green-flag timing debate
"Where I would expect some adjustments to be made knowing that this is seemingly a topic of conversation way too often at Long Beach, Sam, is, okay, like give us an idea of when you want that green flag to be thrown"
They’re talking about when the race should go green after a restart. At Long Beach, the timing matters a lot because it changes how close cars are together when they hit the first big corners.
The hosts discuss how and when the green flag should be thrown—especially at Long Beach—because timing affects how bunched-up the field is when they reach key corners like the hairpin and Turn 1. The “perfect balance” is about avoiding both too-early and too-late restarts that increase crash risk.
IndyCar ceremonial vs professional starter
"Indy Carr's great starter, Aaron Likens, no question about him, his capabilities, know that sometimes if not often there'll be a, I don't know, what do you call them, honorary starter, ceremonial starter, something where someone is up there waving a flag"
The hosts debate who should physically wave the flag to start a professional race versus a ceremonial starter. While it’s not a technical driving topic, it’s about race presentation and the authority/role of officials in the starting process.
restart rules enforcement (software not shutting off Push to Pass)
"Jim Barnett says concerning the push to pass users on that lap 61 restart... There was a software problem that did not turn off push to pass and 12 out of the 25 drivers had pushed to pass on the"
Races rely on rules being applied correctly at restarts. If a system glitch means a boost stays on when it shouldn’t, it can affect who has the advantage, and officials have to address it afterward.
This segment highlights how restart procedures depend on correct rule enforcement—sometimes via onboard systems and race-control software. When a system fails (like Push to Pass not turning off), it can change race outcomes and triggers post-race officiating actions.
lap 61 restart
"Jim Barnett says concerning the push to pass users on that lap 61 restart, this being a case where IndyCar, IndyCar officiating came out after the event"
A “lap 61 restart” means the race restarted around lap 61 after a caution. Restarts are tricky because everyone is close together and timing matters.
A “lap 61 restart” refers to the race being resumed on lap 61 after a caution period. Restarts are high-risk moments because cars are bunched up and drivers must time acceleration and rule-boost usage precisely.
caution
"...there was a single caution here, so we got into the race this two thirds of the way through caution..."
A caution is when the race slows down because something happened on the track. Cars follow the rules for a slower pace until it’s safe to race at full speed again.
A caution is when race control slows the field due to an incident on track, typically using yellow flags and a safety car procedure. During cautions, teams and officials can review events, but penalties still have to be applied within the race’s remaining time and safety constraints.
moving cars to the back of the field
"...move them to the back of the field there... but with a active green race..."
Sometimes officials penalize drivers by making them fall behind the rest of the cars. Doing that to a lot of cars at once—especially while everyone is still racing—can be tricky and potentially risky.
“Move to the back of the field” is a penalty concept where officials reorder affected cars to restart/continue behind everyone else. The discussion highlights the practical challenge of doing this for many cars (like 12) during an active green-flag run without creating additional risk or confusion on track.
drive-through
"...okay, you 12 do a drive through and that's how we penalize you slash move you to the back of the field..."
A drive-through penalty means the driver must go through the pit lane without stopping, usually at a limited speed. It costs time and drops the car back in the running order.
A drive-through penalty requires a car to enter the pit lane and pass through at a controlled speed without stopping. It’s commonly used in open-wheel racing as a way to penalize rule violations while keeping the race moving.
push to pass button
"...the smash and the push to pass button leading into a restart when it's supposed to be turned off, that's what Joseph Newgarden said he did right a couple years ago with his penalty and Scotty McLaughlin said he mistakenly pressed his once..."
The push-to-pass button is a race feature that gives a driver a short burst of extra power. It’s meant to be used only at certain times, and if someone hits it when they’re not supposed to, it can cause problems. The debate here is whether that extra power actually helps you gain positions during restarts.
In IndyCar, the “push to pass” button temporarily boosts engine output so a driver can gain speed for passing or defending. It’s governed by rules and timing, and using it when it’s supposed to be off (like during certain restarts) can lead to penalties or controversy. The hosts discuss how drivers develop habits around it and how officials evaluate whether it creates an on-track advantage.
penalties
"...that's what Joseph Newgarden said he did right a couple years ago with his penalty... don't disagree with the notion that yeah, I mean hey, the smash and the push to pass button..."
Penalties are what race officials impose when a driver breaks a rule. Here, the rule issue is about using the push-to-pass button at the wrong time. The discussion suggests that when and how penalties are applied can affect how fair or predictable the outcome feels.
Penalties are rule-enforcement actions applied when a driver violates IndyCar regulations, such as using push-to-pass at an incorrect time. In this segment, penalties are discussed alongside the idea of “improvising penalties” late in a race, implying that timing and consistency of enforcement matter. The hosts also connect penalties to driver behavior and habits.
on track advantage
"...Indy Kars said that there was no on track advantage gain at Long Beach asked did Newgarden and McLaughlin gain an advantage at St. Pete..."
“On track advantage” means whether something a driver did actually made them faster compared to other cars. The hosts are questioning whether the officials’ conclusion—no advantage—makes sense. They argue that if you get extra power, you should be able to gain time or position.
“On track advantage” refers to whether a rule-related action (like using push-to-pass at the wrong time) actually changes race outcomes in a measurable way. The hosts challenge a claim that there was no advantage by using a simplified power/boost example to argue that more output should translate into performance. This is essentially about how officials assess causality between rule events and lap-by-lap results.
St. Pete
"...asked did Newgarden and McLaughlin gain an advantage at St. Pete if not wears the consistency in assessing penalties..."
St. Pete refers to the IndyCar race at St. Petersburg (Florida), another venue used in the discussion to evaluate whether push-to-pass-related incidents produced an advantage. The hosts ask whether Newgarden and McLaughlin gained anything there, contrasting it with the Long Beach claim. This highlights how officials and fans may debate outcomes differently depending on track context.
700 of something
"...if you have 700 of something and a button gives you 50 more and you have 750 talking horsepower you have indeed gained an advantage..."
The hosts use a simplified “700 of something” and “50 more” example to illustrate how a power boost should create performance gains. Even if officials claim no advantage, the argument is that increasing output (horsepower) should improve acceleration and speed potential. It’s a lay explanation of the relationship between boost magnitude and race performance.
control box
"...their cars were modified the control box right software modifications to illegally allow circumventing of the push to pass being deactivated..."
The control box is the car’s electronics “brain” that controls how systems behave. If its software is changed, it can make a feature like push to pass work when it shouldn’t.
The control box is the electronics module that manages vehicle systems and driver-selectable functions, including how features like push to pass are enabled or inhibited. The segment claims software changes to the control box allowed certain cars to bypass intended deactivation rules.
software glitch
"...the press release said software but you do this long enough and you don't trust much that's put into press release and he said absolutely... it was a software glitch a software problem... turned it off and it did not function..."
A software glitch means the computer didn’t behave the way it was supposed to. In this case, the system ended up leaving push to pass active in a way that affected race fairness.
A software glitch is an unintended behavior caused by a problem in software logic or configuration. Here, the discussion contrasts “human error” vs “software,” with Ray Evernham indicating it was a software problem that left push to pass effectively enabled when it should have been off.
Long Beach 2024 push-to-pass advantage
"...at Long Beach in 2024 which traced back to St. Petersburg earlier in that season was indeed push to pass being turned off for everyone except the Penske drivers all three with the modifications... bypass that and make use of push to pass when nobody else could..."
They’re describing what happened at Long Beach in 2024 where most drivers couldn’t use the extra-power feature, but some Penske cars could. The hosts’ main point is that it gave one team an advantage.
The hosts describe a Long Beach 2024 situation where push to pass was reportedly turned off for most drivers, but enabled for the Penske cars due to software/control-box modifications. They argue this created a single-team advantage that wasn’t shared by the rest of the field.
Penske
"...push to pass being turned off for everyone except the Penske drivers all three with the modifications..."
Penske is a top IndyCar team. Here, the hosts mention Penske because they believe the team’s cars were able to use push to pass when other drivers couldn’t.
Penske refers to Team Penske, a major IndyCar organization known for strong engineering and race execution. In this segment, Penske is central because the discussion claims their cars had modifications that allowed push to pass to be used when it was disabled for others.
race control
"...in terms of consistency in assessing penalties need to parse that out a little bit while the majority of the people in charge of two days race control are the same people who were back then there is a difference with the independent officiating side..."
Race control is the group that runs the rules during the race—deciding things like penalties and how incidents are handled. The hosts are saying the people involved can differ depending on the officiating side, which can affect outcomes.
Race control is the centralized officiating/operations group that oversees on-track events, including flags, timing decisions, and penalties. The segment emphasizes that even if some personnel are the same, differences in independent officiating can change how penalties are assessed.
yellow line
"just as we have rules that say you cannot go below the yellow line here you cannot do this you cannot do that if this is something that you know for sure you have been told you cannot use I get the smashing of the button totally understand the button"
The “yellow line” is a marked boundary on the track that rules reference. The hosts are using it like an example: if the rules say you can’t do something, you shouldn’t do it just because it seems possible. It’s about following the intent of the rule.
The “yellow line” is a track boundary used in IndyCar rules to define where certain maneuvers are permitted or prohibited. The hosts use it as an analogy for rule compliance: if a rule says you can’t do something, drivers shouldn’t treat availability or exceptions as permission. It’s part of the broader discussion about how strictly rules should be enforced.
IndyCar officiating LLC
"to me a really wonderful wonderful adjustment rule wise coming out of Long Beach since the IndyCar officiating board and IndyCar officiating LLC has chosen to take no action on the 12 they've identified who have used this while the system was having a problem"
“IndyCar officiating LLC” is referenced as the organization that chose not to take action on the identified drivers who used push to pass while the system was having a problem. This highlights how IndyCar’s officiating bodies handle technical-system incidents versus intentional misconduct. Their decision affects how teams interpret risk and compliance going forward.
glitch no glitch don't touch the damn button
"been told you cannot use I get the smashing of the button totally understand the button smashing approach what if it is available and if it is I bet others are using it so I better do it too ... whether it's our fault the universe's fault whatever fault hey you know for the opening lap on start restarts whatever else can't touch the damn button so don't you start to then remove any questions of do you need to officiate do you need to make a judgment call"
They’re talking about what happens when a race system acts up. If the button works because of a mistake, should drivers use it anyway? The point is that officials may want to make it clear that a glitch isn’t permission to break the rules.
The hosts are discussing how rule enforcement should treat system glitches versus intentional rule-breaking. Even if a boost system is available due to a technical problem, the competitive intent is still that drivers should follow the spirit and letter of the regulations. This is a common officiating dilemma in motorsport: whether “it was available” counts as permission.
firestone pit stop performance award
"let me see if i can pull open the document here uh so through long beach the firestone pit stop performance award alex plows team the number 10 car"
Firestone tracks how fast race teams do pit stops. In this episode, they use that award’s timing data to compare which pit crews are consistently quick.
The Firestone pit stop performance award is a metric-based recognition for how quickly and consistently teams execute pit stops. Here, it’s used to compare pit stop timing between cars and to argue that the advantage is “metronomic” execution rather than occasional huge speed gains.
chip ganassi racing honda
"uh so through long beach the firestone pit stop performance award alex plows team the number 10 car chip ganassi racing honda currently ranked 10th out of the 25 full-time entries"
“Chip Ganassi Racing Honda” identifies the IndyCar team (Chip Ganassi Racing) and its engine supplier (Honda). In IndyCar, team engineering and pit execution both matter, and the segment uses this team’s pit stop performance as evidence of consistency.
metronomic
"what they are though is metronomic they are like a click track if you're a fan of music um this is a number 10 team that is just always very good"
“Metronomic” means extremely consistent and on-beat—like a musical metronome. The hosts use it to describe a pit crew that rarely makes mistakes and executes the same timing window repeatedly, which can be more valuable than sporadic bursts of speed.
wheel on wheel nut
"um this is a number 10 team that is just always very good rarely if ever do we see them with a problem getting a wheel on or wheel nut sailing down pit lane"
This is describing the basics of a pit tire change: put the wheel on and tighten the nuts. Pit crews focus on doing it quickly and correctly every time.
“Wheel on” and “wheel nut” are shorthand for the core actions of a tire change: mounting the wheel and securing it with the lug nuts. Pit crews train these steps to be fast and repeatable, because even small delays add up over multiple stops.
air jack issue
"rarely if ever do we see them with a problem getting a wheel on or wheel nut sailing down pit lane struggles to get the buck i plugged in to refuel air jack issue"
An “air jack” is the pneumatic lift used by IndyCar pit crews to raise the car during a tire change. The segment contrasts Palou’s crew’s reliability with other crews that experience problems, like an air-jack malfunction or delay.
pit stop performed pull out and then cross that stripe start accelerating
"and this is measured right from the pit in timing stripe to the pit out so this is effectively from the moment they pull onto pit lane and cross that stripe get down to their pit box have the pit stop performed pull out and then cross that stripe start accelerating back out onto the track"
They’re explaining how they measure pit stop time. It starts when the car hits a marked line on the way into the pits and ends when it crosses another line after leaving, so the comparison is apples-to-apples.
This describes how IndyCar pit stop timing is measured: from when the car crosses the timing stripe entering the pit lane to when it crosses the stripe after leaving the pit box and accelerating back out. Using this method, the hosts can compare pit crews fairly even if the cars enter and exit the pits at slightly different moments.
leapfrogging on pit stops
"...he leap frogged fro felix rozenkvist alex's pit stop ... so roughly eight tenths faster wasn't crazily different but was indeed just different enough to be able to get ahead of him on pit lane..."
Leapfrogging means one car ends up ahead of another after both have pitted. Even if you’re not much faster on track, a better-timed or quicker stop can let you come out in front.
“Leapfrogging” on pit stops is when one car gains track position by pitting and rejoining ahead of another car that pitted earlier or later. It’s driven by the combination of pit stop speed, timing, and how long each car is in the pit lane before rejoining traffic.
consistency
"...but man the consistency part that's the formula it's not new to polo dixon's used it to win six championships darfur and kitty used it to win four championships ..."
Consistency means doing your job well again and again, not just having one great moment. In IndyCar, that often comes down to pit stops and avoiding mistakes so you don’t lose positions.
In IndyCar strategy, consistency refers to repeatedly delivering similar performance—especially on pit stops and rejoining traffic—race after race. The hosts frame it as a “formula” for winning: be excellent when it counts (pit lane) and avoid costly mistakes rather than chasing every marginal advantage on track.
culture of a pit crew
"...it's a culture thing and what is culture well culture is something that is established and fed and nurtured over time ... think of a 10 car ... ricky davis is crew chief ..."
They’re talking about how a pit crew’s habits and teamwork build up over time. When the same people work together for years, they tend to be faster and more reliable when it matters most.
The hosts describe pit-crew “culture” as an established way of working that’s built over time and becomes repeatable under race pressure. They argue that long-term team cohesion—same people doing the same tasks—reduces variability and supports consistent pit stop performance.
chicken or the egg scenario
"...i realize it's a little bit of a chicken or the egg scenario but last year is definitely the 10 car beat the heck out of everybody..."
It means you can’t tell which thing caused the other. In racing, it’s like asking whether the best team is winning because they’re better, or because everyone else is having problems.
This phrase is used when it’s unclear whether one factor causes the other. In racing terms, it can mean whether a team’s dominance creates consistent results, or whether other teams’ inconsistency makes the dominant team look even stronger.
championship hunt
"...they effectively take themselves out of the championship hunt compared to the 10 car just running away..."
It’s the race to win the season title. If you have too many bad results, you can’t catch up in points.
A “championship hunt” is the season-long points battle to win the title. In series like IndyCar, teams can effectively fall out of contention if they miss too many races, finish too far back, or have frequent poor results.
running away
"...2025 was a different animal they ran the heck away here we are in 2026 five races down that 10 cars won three of the races so far..."
It means one team is pulling ahead and making it hard for others to catch up. Usually that happens when they keep winning or finishing very high.
“Running away” describes a dominant stretch where one team’s results create a growing points gap. The transcript frames 2026 as potentially repeating 2025’s dominance if the leading car keeps adding wins.
grand slams
"...but are they doing all grand slams to win or some of their competitors proving to come up short..."
A “grand slam” here means a super-perfect race weekend with multiple big accomplishments. The host is wondering if the leader is getting those big weekends or if competitors are slipping.
In IndyCar discussion, “grand slams” typically refers to a maximum-points weekend where a driver/team hits multiple bonus achievements in addition to winning. The idea here is whether the leader is stacking perfect weekends or if rivals are failing to deliver.
behind the scenes
"...what areas do they need to improve behind the scenes to improve their on track performance..."
It means the work the team does off the track. Changes like tuning the car and improving strategy planning can show up as faster lap times and better finishes.
“Behind the scenes” refers to off-track work that influences on-track performance—like engineering changes, data analysis, simulation, and setup development. The transcript asks what areas need improvement to translate into better race pace and results.
struggle street
"...david says will power seems to be on struggle street while blending into and ready progress is never instant..."
It just means things are going badly right now. In racing, that usually points to the team not getting the car to perform the way it should.
“Struggle street” is an idiom meaning someone is having ongoing trouble. In racing, it often implies the car isn’t delivering the pace needed for qualifying and race results, or that strategy/execution hasn’t been clicking.
8500
"...says it'll be an outside chance come the 8500 for sure but what do you feel they need to address..."
The number “8500” is mentioned as a target or milestone, but we don’t get enough detail here to know exactly what it refers to. It sounds like something related to season progress or points.
“8500” appears to be a points/threshold reference or a race-related number, but the transcript doesn’t provide enough context to confirm what it means. It’s likely tied to a target outcome in the season standings or a specific event.
street courses
"...five races in three of them being street courses those street courses really being the one type of track you can't test on before the season to help make whichever setup suggestions he might have..."
Street courses are temporary road circuits laid out on city streets, with tight corners and limited runoff compared to purpose-built ovals or road courses. Because you can’t fully test there before the season, teams rely heavily on driver feedback and setup tailoring to get the car working quickly.
short ovals
"...show out his oval prowess short oval prowess with a team that hadn't been great on short ovals..."
Short ovals are smaller oval tracks, so the turns come up quickly and the car has to be stable and grippy. Setup and driving style are different than on bigger ovals because you’re constantly managing traction and balance.
Short ovals are oval tracks with relatively tight dimensions, which tend to demand different aerodynamic balance and mechanical grip than larger ovals. Drivers and teams often emphasize steering response, traction out of corners, and stability through traffic.
Arlington
"...changing what they were doing saw him run strongly at arlington brand new track for everybody..."
Arlington refers to an IndyCar oval venue where teams can evaluate changes in direction and car behavior under race conditions. Here it’s mentioned as a place where the team started running strongly after adjustments.
detroit
"...would say by the month of may's closure knowing that we're going to detroit as well"
Detroit is an IndyCar event run on city streets, so it behaves like a street course. The host is basically saying that the driver’s street-course experience will be tested there soon.
Detroit is an IndyCar street-course event, typically run on a downtown street layout. The host’s “by the month of May’s closure” comment frames Detroit as an upcoming stop where street-course experience and setup tailoring will matter.
oval super speedway
"course race second oval super speedway it's very different from phoenix obviously but then yet another street course fourth of the season at detroit i feel like he's going to have a pretty decent bank of understanding"
A super speedway is a big oval track where cars go fast for long stretches. The car needs to stay stable at speed, so it feels and handles differently than a twisty road course.
An oval super speedway is a very high-speed oval track designed for long runs at sustained speed, often with steep banking. In IndyCar, these tracks emphasize aerodynamic efficiency, stability, and throttle management, so the car behavior and setup priorities differ from road courses.
road course
"course race second oval super speedway it's very different from phoenix obviously but then yet another street course fourth of the season at detroit i feel like he's going to have a pretty decent bank of understanding of what the team's doing how the car is different how it behaves differently"
A road course is a track with lots of turns and braking, not just left turns at high speed. Because it’s more technical, the car setup and how the driver feels in the corners can change a lot from oval racing.
A road course is a circuit made up of a mix of corners, braking zones, and varying radii, usually with less sustained high-speed running than ovals. In IndyCar, road courses tend to reward setup balance and driver technique, so a driver’s learning curve can look different than on ovals.
learning curve between f1 and indycar
"and he seemed measured in his response and maybe a little frustrated with his lack of progress i know there's a learning curve between f1 and indycar however we have seen other f1 drivers come into the sport see more success"
Switching from F1 to IndyCar isn’t just a new team—it’s a different kind of race car and different driving style. Even great drivers need time to learn how the car behaves and how to race it effectively.
The “learning curve” refers to how drivers must adapt to different car characteristics, race formats, and driving styles when moving between Formula 1 and IndyCar. Even with elite talent, differences in tires, aerodynamics, downforce levels, and racecraft can take time to translate into consistent results.
alpine
"wek didn't seem to particularly revel in that it was for not a great team and alpine alpine's going away at the end of the year don't know if anything mic did in the wc really had other manufacturers"
Alpine is a Formula 1 manufacturer/team brand, and the transcript references Alpine “going away” at the end of the year. That kind of organizational change can affect driver opportunities and contract decisions, which is why it comes up in the discussion of whether a driver might return to F1.
rll
"so that's my first thought for mc would say keep in mind he is now two races in to a engineering change race engineering change so he and eddie jones despite eddie being brilliant they're just learning to work together would say that his second race with eddie should say second event with eddie"
“RLL” is a racing team name in IndyCar. The idea here is that if the driver performs well enough, that team (or another) might want to keep working with them.
“RLL” is referenced as a team that could invite the driver back, implying a role in IndyCar career planning. In IndyCar context, it typically stands for Rahal Letterman Lanigan, where driver-engineer fit and results can influence future opportunities.
engineering change
"so that's my first thought for mc would say keep in mind he is now two races in to a engineering change race engineering change so he and eddie jones despite eddie being brilliant they're just learning to work together"
An engineering change is when the person helping you set up the car and plan race strategy changes. That can take a couple races to get comfortable, because you have to learn each other’s communication style and what the car needs.
An “engineering change” means the driver’s race engineer (or broader engineering support) changes, which can temporarily disrupt communication and feedback loops. In open-wheel racing, that relationship strongly affects setup direction, practice-to-race adjustments, and how quickly the driver can translate feel into actionable changes.
motor issue failure
"...was pretty darn close to a disaster motor issue failure whatever exactly it was immediately on friday gets effectively one lap at slow speed no more..."
They’re describing a serious engine/motor problem that caused trouble right away. Because of it, the driver lost track time and had less opportunity to get ready for the rest of the weekend.
A “motor issue failure” indicates a mechanical/electrical problem severe enough to disrupt the weekend. The hosts connect it to lost practice time and a reduced opportunity to learn the track, which then affects qualifying and race performance.
qualifying
"...then it's straight into qualifying and the fact that he out qualified for drivers is ridiculous i told him as such like that's wild man you should have been 25th and last period the fact that you qualified 21st..."
Qualifying is when drivers try to set the fastest time to determine their starting spot. They’re highlighting that the driver earned a surprisingly good starting position.
Qualifying is the session where drivers set their grid position for the race. The hosts emphasize how impressive it was that the driver qualified well despite a difficult weekend.
long runs on tires
"...all the lack of track familiarity long runs on tires to really know those as well as everybody else i'd say he had a super super impressive and mature run in the race..."
“Long runs on tires” refers to extended stints used to evaluate tire wear, balance, and pace over time. The hosts credit the driver’s maturity because he managed those longer tire runs better than expected.
Phoenix
"...went forward a little bit did his best to learn came out of the event clean so i'd say that oval performance at phoenix was a real eye opener would say that from an engineering standpoint..."
They’re talking about Phoenix Raceway, an oval track. The point is that the driver’s performance there stood out even though the weekend had a lot of problems.
Phoenix refers to the Phoenix Raceway oval where the driver’s performance is being evaluated. The hosts are using it as a benchmark for how well the driver handled an oval after a chaotic weekend.
Barber
"...things just were bad and so a reboot at barber no chance whatsoever to work together beforehand having to learn each other decent event but nothing remarkable results wise but there was a really good feeling..."
Barber is a road course track. They’re saying the weekend felt better because the driver and engineer worked together more smoothly, even though the results weren’t huge.
Barber refers to Barber Motorsports Park, a road course in IndyCar. The hosts describe it as a “reboot” where the driver and engineer had a better vibe and communication, even if results weren’t remarkable.
Indy GP
"...so far in my mind his season starts at the indy gp that's the first flat ish natural terrain road course for him one that doesn't have crazy risks like a barber..."
They mean the Indianapolis road-course race. The idea is that it’s a more manageable track for him to build confidence and performance.
“Indy GP” is the Indianapolis Grand Prix, an IndyCar road course event at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. The hosts frame it as the first “flat-ish” natural-terrain road course for the driver, with fewer extreme risks than tracks like Barber.
Indy 500
"...if that does not happen indy 500 is going to be the next opportunity to show his capabilities i'm not looking for anything remarkable there chris i think if he qualifies decently and completes the race that to me is a big big victory for him..."
The Indy 500 is the most famous IndyCar race. People use it as a “big test” to see how well the team is doing.
The Indy 500 (Indianapolis 500) is the biggest race on the IndyCar calendar and often the main benchmark for a team’s season. In listener Q&A, it’s used as a key moment to judge whether a driver/engineer can execute under pressure.
race engineering presence
"...andretti global connected to coin through hauger needs is for denis to have a consistent race engineering presence someone to learn from develop himself so would say i would expect that to be in place here for the rest of his season..."
This is about having the same engineering support around the driver consistently. It helps the team learn what works and improve faster over the season.
A “race engineering presence” means having a consistent, hands-on engineering lead working with the driver throughout race weekends. The goal is continuity in setup direction, feedback loops, and learning from one event to the next.
associate / performance assistant engineer
"...between himself he was one of the associate slash performance assistant engineer types within the team himself quintin montego as well and i know that during the preseason looking at race engineering options..."
This is a support engineering job on a racing team. They help with analysis and setup work, and it can be a stepping stone to running engineering for races.
An associate or performance assistant engineer is typically a supporting role that helps analyze data, evaluate setups, and assist the lead race engineer. It’s a common development path toward becoming a full race engineer.
veteran approach / veteran move
"before we get into the month of may as well i think this to me frank this qualifies as an absolute veteran approach veteran move make that change now try and get that direct race engineer and driver chemistry going"
The hosts use “veteran approach” to describe a proactive team-management style: making changes early when results aren’t matching expectations rather than waiting. In motorsport terms, it’s about optimizing the feedback loop between driver, race engineer, and car development before the schedule becomes too tight.
Long Beach open test
"let's make a change now try and get that direct race engineer and driver chemistry going do that at long beach in the open test next week indy gp by the time you get into the proper month of may"
The Long Beach open test is a time before the main races where teams practice and try different setups. The hosts say it’s a good moment to adjust who works with the driver so they can work better together.
The “Long Beach open test” refers to pre-race testing at Long Beach, where teams can evaluate setups and driver/engineer communication. In this segment, the hosts argue that changing the race engineer and driver chemistry ahead of the month of May should be done at this test to maximize performance.
Indianapolis 500 (the 500)
"we haven't had a week off after the 500 and before detroit and i don't know how long so the moving straight to motown to celebrate your indy 500 winner and have that momentum from the 500 roll into the detroit gp"
The “500” refers to the Indianapolis 500, IndyCar’s marquee race held at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. The hosts discuss the scheduling pattern of having no week off after the 500 and then rolling into the Detroit Grand Prix, which affects team preparation and momentum.
paddock
"...in tech uh indoor moments between teams regarding tech issues in other words is the paddock happy..."
In racing, the “paddock” is basically the busy area where teams and people hang out between races. If the paddock is upset, it usually means teams and insiders aren’t happy with something.
The paddock is the motorsport “team and industry” area where teams, officials, and personnel operate between sessions. When the host says “the paddock” is happy or unhappy, they mean the broader community’s sentiment about decisions and changes.
engine tear down
"...close our winning car engines torn down for inspection after races india especially are they sealed um and are not subject to these tear downs since the manufacturer..."
A “tear down” means taking an engine apart to look inside. IndyCar officials sometimes do this to make sure teams followed the rules, especially if there’s a reason to suspect something.
An engine tear down is when officials disassemble an engine to inspect internal components for compliance or potential rule violations. In IndyCar, whether an engine is torn down can depend on how the engine is sealed and what the inspection rules allow after a race.
sealed
"...especially are they sealed um and are not subject to these tear downs since the manufacturer uh manufacturers have tax assigned to teams..."
“Sealed” means the engine is locked down so it can’t be opened freely. If officials need to check it, they can be confident it wasn’t changed in secret.
A sealed engine is one that’s secured by the manufacturer/series so teams can’t open it without authorization. Sealing helps officials verify the engine hasn’t been tampered with between the race and any inspection.
controlled environment clean lavish type scenario
"...whichever inspection desire to be done to it would then be done usually in some form of controlled environment clean lavish type scenario so uh yeah no single answer..."
They inspect the engine in a controlled, clean setup so nothing gets contaminated and the parts are handled consistently. That helps make the inspection results more trustworthy.
When an engine inspection is done in a controlled environment, it’s typically to prevent contamination and ensure consistent handling of parts. This matters because teardown inspections are often used to compare components against expected conditions or compliance requirements.
charter for shivy and honda
"...close by saying i mean really the charter for shivy and honda isn't going to change or elevate the competition it's just going to keep them at the size they can manage..."
They’re talking about the rules/structure (the “charter”) that determines how teams and engine partners are set up in IndyCar. The host’s view is that it won’t suddenly make competition bigger or more expensive—it’s meant to keep things within what they can handle.
“Charter” here refers to the formal IndyCar team/engine program structure that governs how manufacturers and teams participate and how resources are allocated. The host claims the charter for “shivy and honda” won’t change in a way that meaningfully raises competition—more about keeping it within manageable limits.
indy car rebadge the 2.2 liter engines in 2028 when the new 2.4 liter motors come out
"...david land suggests the indy car rebadge the 2.2 liter engines in 2028 when the new 2.4 liter motors come out so that indy has enough engines to outfit entries for bumping what do you think of this idea..."
They’re talking about a “bridge” plan: keep using the older 2.2-liter IndyCar engines for a while in 2028, even though the series is supposed to switch to new 2.4-liter engines. The key issue is whether there would be enough engines and money to support running both programs at once.
The idea being discussed is using a smaller 2.2-liter IndyCar engine (rebadged) in 2028 even after the series transitions to new 2.4-liter engines. In practice, it’s about whether teams/engine programs can keep enough engine supply and support for entries while the new engine era starts.
running dw 12s post-2028 with the new car at indy
"...so i don't know love ideas like this they're fun they're fun fan concepts but then the reason that you don't hear me floating things like this is because..."
They’re discussing a plan for future IndyCar race formats (“DW 12s”) after 2028, using the new car. It’s basically about how the series would schedule and run events once the new rules arrive.
The segment proposes running “DW 12s” after 2028 with the new car at Indy. This is a specific racing-event/format planning discussion tied to the timing of the new engine and car rules.
doubling the budget for shivy and for honda on the engine side
"...this would involve doubling the budget for shivy and for honda on the engine side so for example if there was a need for shivy and honda to run these 2.2s for say one more year..."
He’s saying this plan would cost a lot more because it would mean supporting two engine setups at the same time. Instead of phasing the old engines out, you’d have to keep them supplied and maintained, which takes extra money.
The host argues that running (or rebadging) the older 2.2-liter engines alongside the new 2.4-liter program would effectively require funding two parallel engine efforts. That means more procurement, parts, and ongoing support to keep engines “alive,” rather than ramping down the older program.
running the dw-12s
"[3572.5s] so it's a non-starter because it would require doubling the budgets so this is why again it's a fun thing to think about but from a practicality standpoint ain't happening whatsoever as for [3581.2s] running the dw-12s i don't know why they would be run when a brand new car is coming"
DW-12 is the current IndyCar engine setup. The point here is that once IndyCar moves to a new car/engine generation, it’s hard to keep using the old DW-12 stuff because it costs money and doesn’t match what teams and manufacturers want to build for the future.
The DW-12 refers to IndyCar’s current-generation engine package used in the series. The hosts discuss why keeping DW-12 cars/engines alongside the incoming “new cars” isn’t practical—teams and manufacturers want the grid to be fresh and aligned with the latest regulations and development direction.
period now tuned for sound
"[3662.8s] so the answer is no period now tuned for sound there are limited things you can do with a turbo [3687.2s] charge motor to tune for sound meaning playing with the exhaust outlet basically"
They’re talking about adjusting the car so it sounds a certain way. But on turbo engines, the turbocharger and exhaust design control most of the sound, so you can’t easily make it sound exactly like a different era.
“Tuned for sound” is about calibrating an engine and exhaust system so the car produces a specific auditory character. In this segment, the host explains that with a turbocharged engine, sound tuning is limited because the turbocharger and intake/exhaust design strongly determine the final noise.
turbo charge motor
"[3681.2s] there's the expense of going to the new cars etc etc there's a reason things are changing and that's to get rid [3687.2s] of cars that are so painfully old so the idea of trying to carry the old crap into the future to [3691.2s] run it alongside the new crap you're not going to get any interest from the auto manufacturers involved the teams as well they might have plenty of inventory for dw-12 stuff but inevitably for talking about running at indy they're going to want things to be as fresh as possible new as possible so that means spending more money not just using the good old cars"
A turbocharged engine uses a turbo to force more air into the engine. That affects how it runs and also how it sounds, so you can’t just tweak a couple things to make it sound like a naturally aspirated engine.
A turbocharged engine uses a turbocharger to compress incoming air, which changes both performance and how the engine sounds. The host notes that sound tuning on a turbo motor is constrained because the turbocharger and related hardware dominate the audible character.
turbocharger
"[3698.9s] basically but the the headers themselves feed into a sound deadening device that being the turbocharger itself the [3709.6s] sound of the motors staying at the same 12 000 rpm rev limit"
The turbocharger is the part that uses exhaust gases to spin a turbine and push more air into the engine. Because it sits in the exhaust/intake path, it strongly affects the engine’s noise.
The turbocharger is the forced-induction component that compresses intake air using exhaust energy. Here, it’s described as a major contributor to the sound—headers feed into a sound-deadening device, and the turbocharger itself influences what the driver/audience hears.
12 000 rpm rev limit
"[3709.6s] sound of the motors staying at the same 12 000 rpm rev limit knowing that we're just going from a [3717.9s] 2.2 liter twin turbo v6 to a 2.4 liter twin turbo v6 with no more revs"
The rev limit is the top RPM the engine is allowed to reach. If the new IndyCar engine is limited to the same RPM as the old one, it won’t automatically sound much different because a lot of the pitch comes from engine speed.
A rev limit is the maximum engine speed the ECU will allow. The host argues that if the new engine keeps the same rev limit (and similar operating points), it won’t dramatically change the overall sound character—because the “high-pitched” quality is tied to how fast the engine is spinning.
2.2 liter twin turbo v6 to a 2.4 liter twin turbo v6
"[3717.9s] knowing that we're just going from a [3717.9s] 2.2 liter twin turbo v6 to a 2.4 liter twin turbo v6 with no more revs is not going to sound [3729.5s] i don't want to say any different but man you really would have to be an expert"
They’re comparing two similar turbo V6 engines with slightly different displacement. The claim is that bigger displacement alone doesn’t guarantee a totally different sound—especially if the engine still spins to the same RPM and uses similar turbo/exhaust design.
This is a discussion of how engine displacement and forced induction affect sound. The host’s core point is that moving from a 2.2L to a 2.4L twin-turbo V6 doesn’t necessarily create a big audible change if key factors like rev limit and turbo/exhaust architecture stay similar.
cart 2.6 liter 2.65 liter turbo v8's
"[3742.4s] the ferocity of a turbo motor is what really makes the sound to me that's where things start to [3754.0s] stand out so the cart 2.6 liter 2.65 liter turbo v8's those indeed had a very rich sound"
They’re talking about older IndyCar/CART turbo V8 engines and how they sounded. The idea is that those V8s had a distinctive, richer noise that people associate with the “classic” IndyCar sound.
The host contrasts modern turbo V6 sound expectations with the richer sound associated with CART-era turbo V8s around 2.6–2.65 liters. This is used to explain why fans remember a “high-pitched” or “ferocious” IndyCar sound from earlier generations.
Toyota
"[3765.8s] very rich sound dating back to the like the original cause worths but then moving up through the [3772.9s] chevys and the fords and the others revs got higher honda and toyota and mercedes right revs"
Toyota is mentioned as one of the engine brands in the IndyCar conversation. They’re using it to compare how different manufacturers’ engines behaved at higher revs and how that affected sound.
Toyota is referenced as one of the manufacturers in the IndyCar engine era being discussed. The host groups Honda/Toyota/Mercedes in terms of how their rev characteristics contributed to the overall sound evolution.
Mercedes
"[3772.9s] chevys and the fords and the others revs got higher honda and toyota and mercedes right revs"
Mercedes is mentioned as another engine maker in the IndyCar mix. The host is basically saying that different brands reached higher revs, and that changed the way the cars sounded.
Mercedes is included among the manufacturers whose engines are discussed in relation to higher rev behavior and sound. The host’s comparison suggests that rev characteristics across brands influenced the “pitch” fans associate with certain eras.
turbo wine screaming sound
"...there's not going to be anything that they're going to be able to change to make it sound different big turbo wine screaming sound it's just not going to happen..."
When a turbo is working hard, it can make a very distinctive high-pitched noise. That sound depends on how the turbo and exhaust are set up, so tuning and exhaust changes can make it louder or different.
This is describing the characteristic high-pitched “scream” many turbocharged engines make under boost. It’s largely influenced by turbocharger speed, exhaust flow, and how the exhaust system is tuned, so changes to hardware or calibration can shift the sound character.
turbo back down to the exhaust headers
"...there is something that can be done to try and tune what happens after the turbo leading out through the exhaust there can be some tuning there for sound but everything from the turbo back down to the exhaust headers..."
They’re basically saying the exhaust system shape and the way the turbo is feeding it can change the sound. Headers and the pipes after the turbo are big contributors to the pitch you hear.
The speaker is outlining where sound can be influenced on a turbo engine: from the turbocharger outlet back through the exhaust headers and the rest of the exhaust system. In practice, exhaust geometry, pipe diameter/length, and muffling affect resonance and tone, while engine calibration can affect how and when boost is delivered.
tuning for sound
"...there can be some tuning there for sound but everything from the turbo back down... there's nothing chevier honda are going to do internally just to try and alter the the pitch... so uh yes... could there be a two percent change or three percent change and the sound through tuning for sound absolutely..."
This means changing the engine’s computer settings so it behaves slightly differently, which can change the sound you hear. You can sometimes make it more aggressive or more “musical” without swapping parts.
“Tuning for sound” refers to adjusting engine calibration parameters (and sometimes exhaust-related settings) to change how the engine responds under load—especially during boost. Even without changing major hardware, small changes in throttle mapping, boost control, and ignition/exhaust strategies can alter the audible character.
Chevrolet
"...there's nothing chevier honda are going to do internally just to try and alter the the pitch or the whatever else coming out of the motors..."
The speaker mentions Chevrolet in the context of internal engine changes for sound. In IndyCar, engine manufacturers’ design choices and calibration strategies can affect exhaust note, but the speaker is arguing there won’t be major internal changes just to alter pitch.
McLaren
"...we know mclaren's gonna be hiring someone to be in that number six car for next year someone different so that's something to track for sure..."
They’re talking about McLaren changing who they hire for a specific car number next year. In racing, who’s in the car can change what the team focuses on during testing and development.
McLaren is mentioned regarding hiring for the next season’s IndyCar entry (a “number six car”). In IndyCar, team staffing and driver lineup changes can affect development direction and testing priorities, which indirectly influences performance and how engines are run.
Myershank racing
"...myershank racing certainly is is waiting to be convinced uh to hold on to both drivers i don't know if i really have anything new to offer here..."
Myershank racing is discussed in the context of whether they’ll keep both drivers. Team decisions like retaining drivers affect continuity in setup development, simulator work, and race strategy, which can be especially important when engine/exhaust behavior is being tuned for sound and performance.
engine rules design test mass produce new motors
"...it's been a while hasn't it says hrc and ilmore of 22 months come up with engine rules design test mass produce new motors for 28..."
When racing changes its engine rules, it’s not just about inventing something new. They have to test it thoroughly and then build enough engines for teams to race, which is why the timeline matters.
This is describing the multi-step process behind major IndyCar engine changes: designing the rules, running development tests, and then mass-producing the engines for competition. The point is that these steps take time, so the sport can’t simply flip to a brand-new powerplant overnight.
new chassis
"...while the hope to get out and start testing the new chassis at least in june sounds like that's going to be more july..."
A “chassis” is basically the car’s main structure. They’re saying the plan to start testing the next version is moving later, which matters because the new structure has to work with the new engine and other systems.
The hosts discuss testing a new IndyCar chassis on a delayed timeline (June slipping to July). Chassis development is tightly linked to engine and hybrid integration, so schedule changes can ripple into when teams can validate performance and reliability.
hybrid
"...i'm not expecting to test the brand new car with the brand new motor and hybrid but i don't think we're talking about any jeopardy of those motors not being ready to go into competition..."
They’re also talking about a hybrid setup, meaning the car uses more than just a traditional fuel engine for power. That usually adds extra systems and development work, so it can influence how soon teams can test and race the new package.
The segment references a hybrid system tied to IndyCar’s upcoming engine and car rule changes. Hybridization can affect how power is delivered, how teams manage energy, and what development timelines look like for both engines and chassis integration.
race in Brazil / venue status
"...saw a report from uh whatever that fan officials were in brazil to look at a possible venue how soon could we see a race in brazil what's the status of the race in Mexico..."
They’re talking about whether IndyCar could hold a race in Brazil and how far along the planning is. Even if teams want it, the track and event setup have to be ready first.
The segment discusses the possibility of bringing an IndyCar race to Brazil and asks how soon that could happen. Venue readiness and sanctioning logistics are often the limiting factors, so “status” updates matter as much as on-track performance.
Ganassi hiring polo
"...counter move to uh ganassi hiring polo trying to find the next superstar in indy car..."
They’re saying Ganassi is hiring someone (“polo”) to help the team improve. It’s basically about bringing in the right talent so the team can get faster and stay competitive.
The hosts mention Ganassi hiring “polo” as part of the search for the next technical superstar in IndyCar. This is framed as a talent acquisition strategy that could influence future competitiveness through better engineering and development leadership.
Goyana track
"...nothing happened in mexico looking at the goyana i don't know if that's pronounced correctly uh track in..."
They mention a specific track name in the discussion about where races might happen. Different tracks are very different, so the exact venue affects how teams set up the car.
The transcript references a track in “Goyana” (spelled as heard) as part of the discussion about racing venues in the region. Track identification is important because each venue’s layout and surface characteristics strongly affect car setup and tire/engine demands.
points standings after five races
"guess who is sitting what third in the standings after five races um [4198.6s] also because we just say things that are factual while sitting third is definitely impressive ... [4273.4s] behind the champ so um but i look at him and say if he's doing this after five races"
IndyCar uses a points system. After a handful of races, the standings show who’s doing well and how big the gaps are between drivers.
In IndyCar, drivers accumulate championship points across races, so “standing after five races” is a snapshot of early-season performance. The hosts use point gaps to judge consistency, competitiveness, and whether a driver’s results are likely to continue.
maximum score
"but then you look at the gap from little dave to alex and it's what 50 it's a lot uh more than [4262.4s] 60 points 63 points 54 points is maximum score so after five races"
They’re talking about the most points you could possibly get. It’s a way to measure how strong someone’s results are compared to a “perfect” scenario.
“Maximum score” refers to the highest points a driver could earn in a given span (here, across the first five races). Comparing a driver’s current points to the maximum helps illustrate how close they are to a perfect early-season run.
new team / new engineering philosophy
"um but i look at him and say if he's doing this after five races new team new [4286.2s] engineering philosophy just like will's dealing with i know that he had last year"
When a driver joins a new team, the way the team works can be different. That includes how they set up the car and how they talk during the race, and it can take time to adjust.
A “new team” and “new engineering philosophy” implies changes in how the car is developed and how race strategy and communication are handled. In IndyCar, that can affect setup direction, driver feedback loops, and how quickly a driver adapts to the team’s process.
AJ Foyt Racing
"with the aj [4292.5s] foight team with his race engineer the excellent james schnavel but even so just right different"
AJ Foyt Racing is a well-known IndyCar team. The hosts bring it up to show that different teams can have different ways of working.
AJ Foyt Racing is another major IndyCar team, often associated with strong driver talent and competitive engineering. The hosts reference it to compare how different teams and engineering approaches affect driver adaptation.
driver teammate
"this says something uh you look at his teammate joseph [4315.0s] newgarden a race winner this year more ups and downs"
A teammate is the other driver on the same team. Comparing teammates helps show whether one driver is just having a great moment or whether the whole team package is working.
“Teammate” comparisons are common in motorsport because two drivers share the same team resources, car platform, and engineering staff. When the hosts compare Malukas to Newgarden, they’re using relative performance to infer how well the team’s approach is working.
P6
"joseph is sitting p6 but not that far behind he's only 12 points behind malukas"
“P6” means sixth place. They’re using it to show where a driver ranks compared to others.
“P6” means sixth place in the standings or race result context. The hosts use it to quantify where Joseph Newgarden sits relative to Malukas and to discuss how close the points battle is.
permanent loss of bump day
"...thio cousins says in your assessment how impactful would the permanent loss of bump day be for the indy 500 and indy car as a whole says if that happened would there be a way for indy car to positively reframe the entry process for the 500..."
“Bump day” is a day during Indy 500 qualifying when cars can still be pushed out of the field. If it disappeared, the way teams plan and qualify would change a lot.
“Bump day” is the specific day in the Indy 500 schedule when the field can be finalized via the bumping process. The hosts discuss how removing it permanently would impact Indy 500 entry dynamics and the broader IndyCar ecosystem.
bumping being a thing
"...if you are a older fan doesn't have to be age wise but if you've been a long-standing fan no matter what your age is you're probably familiar with bumping being a thing it's a thing to expect it's a normal part of the indy 500..."
At the Indy 500, “bumping” is when qualifying results can knock a car out of the starting field. If you’re not fast enough, you can get replaced by someone who qualifies better later.
In IndyCar/Indy 500 context, “bumping” refers to the qualifying process where slower cars can be displaced (“bumped”) out of the starting field by faster qualifiers. It’s a normal, expected part of the Indy 500 entry/qualifying ecosystem, and changes to it can ripple through team strategy and driver opportunity.
centennial event
"...another thing that jumped out here thio is so 2016 indy 500 using that as a thing to kind of forward from that was the 100th running of the indianapolis 500 centennial event..."
The “centennial” just means the 100th anniversary. They’re pointing out that the 2016 Indy 500 was the 100th time the race was run.
The “centennial event” refers to the 2016 Indianapolis 500 being the 100th running of the race. In the transcript, it’s used as a historical anchor for discussing entry/qualifying patterns and expectations.
entry list
"say hey i was on the entry list and practiced at least and tried to qualify for the indy 500 on its 100th running"
An Indy 500 entry list is the set of teams and cars officially entered to compete in the event. Being on the entry list is the first major hurdle, and it determines who can attempt practice, qualify, and ultimately race.
lease equipment / lease a chassis
"meaning to run catherine leg didn't have the budget to go out and buy everything that's often the case for indy only entrance they'll lease equipment partner with the team"
Sometimes teams don’t have enough money to buy all the race gear, so they lease it. If other teams won’t share, it can be really tough to get a car ready for the race weekend.
In IndyCar, teams may lease equipment (including cars/chassis) when they can’t afford to purchase everything needed for the season or for a specific race. The transcript highlights how teams were protective of their assets, making it harder for smaller programs to secure a car in time for practice and qualifying.
DW12
"well in 2016 yeah a couple years into this dw12 formula but teams for the most part were being rather protective about their assets"
The DW12 is the race-car platform used in IndyCar. It’s the kind of chassis teams talk about when they’re trying to get a car ready for practice and qualifying.
The DW12 is the Dallara IndyCar chassis used in the IndyCar Series during the 2010s. The transcript mentions it in the context of teams protecting assets and leasing equipment, which is common when teams need a car quickly for practice and qualifying.
Pocono
"the one chassis that was found that could be made available was the chassis that justin wilson used at pokono in 2015"
Pocono is a well-known racing track. Saying the chassis was used there means it had already been raced/tested at a serious event.
Pocono (likely Pocono Raceway) is a major IndyCar venue where teams test and race. Mentioning that the chassis was used at Pocono helps listeners understand it was already proven in real competition conditions.
Seagull
"...year before same team same entry basically no one seagull week and week a century in the herd got picked o..."
“Seagull” here likely refers to a particular car entry or team name used in a race. The podcast is talking about how that same entry shows up again and again over time. It’s less about what the car is and more about its repeated presence in the event.
“Seagull” in this context sounds like a specific race entry or team name rather than a widely recognized production car model. It’s being referenced as part of a recurring event or “week” where the same entry/team shows up repeatedly. That kind of mention typically highlights participation history and how often a particular car/entry is present in the field.
33 entries or 34 entries
"[5061.7s] the absence of bumping the absence of the anything other than the bare minimum of 33 entries or [5069.6s] maybe even 34 that's the symptom okay that that's the manifestation of a problem"
They’re talking about how many cars IndyCar can realistically have in the race field—roughly 33 or 34. If the sport doesn’t reliably get that many entries, then the odds of someone getting left out increase. They’re treating that number as a clue that something bigger is going on.
The hosts are discussing IndyCar’s entry-count threshold—how many cars are allowed/expected to start (around 33, possibly 34). When the field is short of the usual number, the “one car going home” outcome becomes more common, which they describe as a symptom of a larger structural issue. It’s essentially a capacity/availability problem tied to the entry system.
charter memberships
"[5095.6s] of this problem which i don't foresee going away and this is why i do think we're if we do get back to bumping on a consistent basis [5112.0s] it needs to be more than just one but if we don't this is a business reason this isn't a passion reason"
Charter memberships are like a team’s guaranteed place in the IndyCar system. Instead of everything being decided purely by qualifying speed, the sport’s business rules can affect who gets in. The hosts think these rules are driving the current pattern of teams getting left out.
Charter memberships in IndyCar are a business/entry-rights arrangement that helps stabilize which teams can participate. The hosts say charter-related changes (notably since 2025) are a root cause of why the “bumping” situation has been happening in a different pattern. This is less about on-track performance and more about how entries are allocated.
IndyCar charter changes since 2025
"[5095.6s] of the most current version of indycar the one that has had charters come through charter memberships [5102.0s] been a big change here since 2025 and so the root of this problem"
They’re discussing how IndyCar changed its rules/business setup starting in 2025. Those changes affect which teams get in and how often teams end up being left out. The conversation is about the system, not who is fastest.
This segment focuses on how IndyCar’s charter membership changes beginning in 2025 altered the entry/bumping dynamics. The hosts connect those rule/business changes to why the “bumping” outcome has been occurring about half the time. It’s a structural discussion rather than a driver-performance debate.
entry together
"[5128.7s] reason convoluted things the oh for sure how do you put an entry together like indycar needs to [5137.0s] work on a more formal process for this separate topic"
The hosts mention the process of “putting an entry together,” which refers to the operational and business steps required for a team to field a car for an IndyCar event. They argue IndyCar needs a more formal process for this, implying that administrative/financial constraints can influence who gets to race. It’s part of the broader explanation for why the field dynamics are off.
charter era
"had 34 but that's about it in this new charter era coming into the second charter era indy 500"
In IndyCar, a “charter” is basically a guaranteed entry slot. When the series is in a charter era, it changes who gets in easily and how teams decide whether it’s worth paying to run an extra car or entering as a non-charter team.
IndyCar’s “charter era” refers to the system where teams buy/hold guaranteed entry slots (charters) for the Indianapolis 500 and often the season. It changes the economics of participation by shifting value from “who can enter” to “who already has a guaranteed spot,” affecting prize money and how teams view non-charter entries.
non-charter entries
"prize money for example been cut for non charter entries to a hundred thousand dollars ... we have a good race we're not gonna make much from the prize money since this is a non-charter car"
A “non-charter entry” means you’re trying to race without the guaranteed slot that charter teams have. That usually makes it harder to justify the cost because the payoff can be smaller.
“Non-charter entries” are teams/drivers attempting to compete in the Indy 500 without holding a charter-guaranteed entry. In this segment, the host ties non-charter status to reduced prize money and higher financial risk, which influences whether teams will hire out cars and invest in competition.
profit center (running a third car)
"used to be a pretty decent business play by teams to say hey we're gonna make an extra car ... it was a definite profit center"
A “profit center” here means an extra car isn’t just about racing—it can help teams make money through sponsors. The discussion is saying that this strategy used to work better, but the charter-era rules/economics changed the math.
The host describes running a third car as a “profit center,” meaning an additional entry can generate revenue beyond on-track results—especially through sponsorship exposure and additional sponsor inventory. The segment contrasts that older model with the newer charter-era constraints that make non-charter extra cars less attractive.
counting machines
"the one thing that could make us look past that is boy we're gonna need some cash counting machines because there is going to be duffel bag after duffel bag of cash flowing in"
This is just a colorful phrase for “a lot of money.” The point is that teams may only take a chance on an extra entry if the funding is huge.
“Counting machines” is a colorful way to refer to large amounts of cash being brought in—i.e., the idea that teams will only look past competitiveness concerns if the driver/entry brings enough money. It’s used to emphasize how funding can outweigh pure sporting value in the charter-era Indy 500 entry decisions.
run a fourth car
"they were willing to spend all their own money to do this to run a fourth car the minute they did not have a driver they felt was going to be truly additive to their ability to succeed they shut it down"
A team can enter more than one car in a race. Adding a “fourth car” costs a lot of money and effort, so teams only do it if they think it will help results enough to be worth it.
Running an extra (fourth) car means a team adds another car to its race-weekend lineup, usually to expand driver options, increase chances of points, or develop additional setups. It’s expensive, so teams only do it when they believe the added performance and/or financial upside outweighs the cost and complexity.
Dale coin
"they're not running anybody Dale coin traditionally maybe the most open to running a third car haven't back to the profit back to the prize money"
This sounds like a misheard team name, but it’s talking about an IndyCar team that’s generally more willing to add an extra car if the situation makes sense. The key point is how teams decide whether the extra entry is worth it.
“Dale coin” appears to be a transcription error in this segment; it likely refers to Dale Coyne Racing, an IndyCar team that has historically been more open to adding entries when opportunities arise. The context is about which teams are most willing to run additional cars.
bubble
"are going to be the ones that are really sweating trying to get in being on that bubble who knows having gone home sent one car home the last two years"
Being “on the bubble” means you’re not fully safe—you’re close to the line where you might or might not make it into the race. Small differences in performance can decide it.
On the “bubble” refers to teams/drivers hovering near the cutoff for qualifying or making the race, where one more result or one less result can determine who gets in. In IndyCar, this often comes down to limited spots, qualifying performance, and how many cars are entered.
Ed Carpenter team owner
"ECR they put out an extra car for Ed Carpenter team owner we know he's always a threat then you move down"
This is about Ed Carpenter’s IndyCar team and whether they add another car. Team owners have a big say because adding a car is expensive and only makes sense if it helps results.
Ed Carpenter Racing (ECR) is associated with the Ed Carpenter team, and the segment mentions an “extra car” put out by the team owner. In IndyCar, owner-run or owner-led decisions can strongly influence whether additional entries happen based on perceived driver value and budget.
Meyer Shank racing
"again if they felt this was going to be a big victory financially or from a competition improvement standpoint they would make it happen Meyer Shank racing of course has the third car for time winner Elo Castroneves"
Meyer Shank Racing is an IndyCar team. They’re running extra cars because it can increase the team’s chances of strong results, as long as the driver and budget make sense.
Meyer Shank Racing (MSR) is a well-known IndyCar team, and the segment notes they run a third car. The discussion ties multi-car strategy to business logic—more cars can mean more chances to win, but only if the drivers and resources justify it.
non-charter cars
"...with the huge slash in available prize money for non-charter cars... subtract that fourth and ready car prema gone now all of a sudden having to scramble to find a 33rd"
Non-charter cars are the teams that don’t get an automatic Indy 500 entry. They have to earn their way in, so it can mean last-minute pressure and extra spending.
Non-charter cars are Indy 500 entries that don’t have the guaranteed charter status. Because the field has limited spots, non-charter teams may need to qualify for remaining positions (like the 33rd spot), which can drive up costs and force late-season scrambling.
33rd
"subtract that fourth and ready car prema gone now all of a sudden having to scramble to find a 33rd which will happen... heard in the most recent team owners meeting"
The Indy 500 has a limited number of cars that can start. “33rd” means the very last spot in the starting field, so it’s the hardest one to get.
The “33rd” refers to the last (final) starting position for the Indy 500 field. When a team loses a guaranteed entry (like a charter-related spot), they may need to secure that last position, which is often the most difficult and uncertain part of the weekend.
full-time entrance
"...just days before long beach concept of the full-time entrance having first right first pick on the indy 500 extra entries"
Full-time teams are the ones that plan to race most of the season. Here, they’re also getting priority when extra Indy 500 spots open up.
A “full-time entrance” refers to teams that are committed to running the IndyCar season regularly, rather than only entering select events. In this context, full-time teams appear to receive priority access to extra Indy 500 entry opportunities.
ECR
"...it's ecr with ed carpenter so that's two myers shank"
ECR is just the abbreviation for Ed Carpenter Racing. It’s the team name being used for the extra-car plan.
ECR is shorthand for Ed Carpenter Racing, an IndyCar team. The transcript uses it to identify the organization behind the planned extra car effort for the Indy 500.
Myers Shank
"...so that's two myers shank"
Myers Shank Racing is an IndyCar team. They’re being grouped with other full-time teams that might run extra cars at the Indy 500.
Myers Shank Racing is an IndyCar team known for competing in the Indy 500 and other events. The hosts mention it as part of the set of full-time teams planning extra Indy 500 cars, showing how multiple organizations are preparing for the same entry window.
Indy-only entries
"...plus the four indy only so that's 29 ... potentially we have no other subtractions elsewhere ... with those two manufactured charters coming in those cars full-time ..."
Some teams only race at the Indy 500 and don’t compete the whole season. The hosts are talking about how those one-off entries affect how many cars can make the race.
“Indy-only” entries are cars that participate only in the Indy 500 rather than running a full season. The discussion connects these entries to how teams recruit drivers and sponsors, and how changes in the number of Indy-only entries can impact the total field size.
full-time entries
"25 full-time entries from those 10 teams plus the four indy only so that's 29 ... chuck in the able motorsports ... get to 30 ..."
They’re counting how many cars will be in the race from teams that run full seasons versus teams that only show up for the Indy 500.
This segment focuses on how many cars/entries are expected from full-time teams versus Indy-only entries. It’s essentially a field-composition breakdown—counting teams, entries, and how late additions affect the total.
manufactured charters
"...potentially we have no other subtractions elsewhere with those two manufactured charters coming in those cars full-time ..."
They’re talking about IndyCar “charters,” which are like guaranteed spots/entry rights for teams. If more charters are added, it changes how many cars can reliably get into the race.
“Manufactured charters” refers to IndyCar’s charter system, where teams secure guaranteed entry rights. The phrase implies new or additional charter slots being created/allocated, which affects how many cars can run full-time and therefore how the Indy 500 field is built.
Takuma Sato
"...don't know how many more 8500s takuma sato has with rll don't know how many more myershank racing has with elio castronevus..."
Takuma Sato is a driver in IndyCar. They’re talking about how long he might keep racing and how that affects who can drive the cars.
Takuma Sato is a well-known IndyCar driver, and the hosts are discussing how many more Indy 500/IndyCar seasons he may have with RLL. Mentions like this matter because driver availability is directly tied to how many cars can be fielded.
Elio Castroneves
"...myershank racing has with elio castronevus probably say the same thing about ed carpenter..."
Elio Castroneves is a famous IndyCar driver. They’re talking about how long he might keep racing and how that affects who can drive the cars.
Elio Castroneves is discussed as the driver associated with Myershank Racing, and the hosts speculate about how many more opportunities he has. Driver longevity is part of the broader “can we reliably fill the field?” problem.
lease something buy in
"...how do you come up with a more formalized process to register that interest be able to partner with the team lease something buy in in whatever it might be like ..."
They’re listing different ways companies can work together to get a car into the Indy 500. The point is that there should be a clearer, more organized way to do it.
They’re describing possible business arrangements for getting a car and driver into the Indy 500—things like leasing, buying in, or partnering with a team. The underlying idea is that the process should be more formal so teams and sponsors can align predictably.
33 minimum show up each year
"...hope that 33 minimum show up each year that is the way it has been done for far too long and there's just annual kind of hand wringing and anxiety..."
They’re talking about the Indy 500 needing a full field—around 33 cars. The complaint is that people have been relying on luck and last-minute entries instead of planning a better system.
“33” refers to the typical target field size for the Indy 500. The discussion is about the long-standing practice of relying on enough entries to appear each year, rather than building a more reliable, structured system to ensure the grid is filled.
reframing
"which is brilliant about how would that be seen positively reframing etc if everything's good and everything's up and everything's fantastic"
Reframing means looking at the same thing but telling the story differently. Instead of focusing on what sounds bad, you emphasize what could be good.
“Reframing” is a communication strategy: taking a potentially negative situation and presenting it in a more positive or constructive way. Here, it’s used to discuss how changes to participation numbers could be viewed.
guaranteed minimum
"33 has to be the guaranteed minimum we know will be there every year no question and if that can be added to great but wondering if we're going to get to 33"
It means there’s a set minimum number the organizers promise to hit. The goal is to make the event feel stable year after year instead of uncertain.
A “guaranteed minimum” is a baseline number that organizers commit to meeting every year. In racing contexts, it’s often used to ensure a predictable schedule, participation level, or event footprint.
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