Dirty air means the air around your car is messed up because you’re following another car. That can make the car feel less stable and harder to drive fast.
Straight-line speed is how quickly the car can accelerate and keep going on the straight parts of the track. It’s a tradeoff with how well the car sticks in the turns.
Ford is a car brand that competes in NASCAR. Here, the speaker is saying Ford teams were aiming more for speed on the straights than for extra corner grip.
In NASCAR, “traffic” usually means slower cars you have to work around while you’re trying to race. How you pass them can make you gain or lose position.
Term
wrapping the line
“Wrapping the line” means driving the best path through the turns instead of drifting wide. It helps you keep speed and set up the next part of the lap.
“Three and four” are the last two turns on the lap. How you exit them affects how fast you can go on the straight right after.
Term
numb shove off the bottom
This is about how the car feels when you drive low in the turn and then try to accelerate out. If you don’t time lifting correctly, the car can feel like it suddenly pushes or doesn’t respond smoothly.
Kevin Harvick is a famous NASCAR driver. The host is comparing the way the car was being driven to Harvick’s style—aggressive and effective on corner exits.
Hendrick Motorsports is a major NASCAR racing team. Corey is saying that when a team has a lot of resources, the pressure to win can feel even heavier.
“Chevy” means Chevrolet. In NASCAR, manufacturer support can affect how competitive a team is, and Corey is saying that’s part of why Spire is running well.
A Dodge Ram is a large pickup truck. It’s made for carrying things and towing, and it can also be used like a normal truck for daily driving. The podcast may mention it because it’s a brand the team wants to highlight.
It means their tires were in better shape than the other cars'. When tires are newer, they usually grip the road better, so the car can go faster and handle better.
In racing, a mechanical issue is a problem with the car’s hardware (like drivetrain, cooling, or electronics) that prevents normal operation. The phrase “oversight” suggests the team may have missed or mismanaged something in setup, inspection, or procedure, leading to the failure.
SIM is short for a racing computer simulator. Teams use it to practice and plan how the car should be set up for a track, without having to test in real time.
Gear ratio is how the car’s gearing is set up to match the engine to the wheels. The “right” ratios help the engine stay in the best RPM range so the car accelerates better out of corners.
Second gear ratio is the gearing setting that affects how the car pulls when you’re going slower and exiting tight turns. If it’s not right, the car can feel like it’s not accelerating where it should.
A salvage day means the race didn’t go the way they wanted, so they’re just trying to make the best of it. Instead of a great finish, they focus on limiting the damage and getting through.
Person
Thomas Inuziato
Thomas Inuziato is a race driver. They’re saying he won a race, and then there was an incident involving him afterward.
Practice is when NASCAR teams run the car before qualifying and the race. They use it to learn how the car feels and make adjustments so they’re not guessing on race day.
“Fuel tax” is NASCAR slang for the tradeoff teams pay when they choose how much fuel to add and when to pit. If you don’t put enough fuel in early, you usually have to stop longer later to finish the race.
A pit stop is when the race car comes into the pits during the race for service, usually fuel and sometimes tires. Teams time pit stops so they don’t run out of fuel and don’t fall too far behind.
Wilkesboro is a NASCAR track in North Carolina. The pit road layout is unusual, with a curve and big pit spots, which changes how cars enter and how easy it is to see what others are doing.
Martinsville is another NASCAR short track. The host is saying Wilkesboro feels a bit like it—busy and tricky when cars are moving around near the pits.
On pit road there’s a line you’re supposed to wait at. If you cross it too early, you can get penalized because it helps you leave the pits faster than others.
A pit box is the specific parking spot on pit road for a race team during stops. It’s like a designated lane/stall where the car pulls in to get serviced.
“Night of Destruction” is a special event weekend at Bowman Gray. It’s not just one race—there are other car-and-truck events like monster trucks and a demolition derby.
A Volkswagen Derby is a Volkswagen car that’s been set up for a demolition derby event. In these events, cars are modified to survive impact as long as possible while competing. The podcast mentions it because it’s part of the racing weekend and sponsorship activity.
Transponders are small electronic tags on the race car that help the track measure timing. They’re used so everyone gets the same, official speed/lap data instead of guessing.
“The polls” means the pole position, which is the best starting spot at the front of the race. Corey is saying people expect certain drivers to qualify first.
The Hyundai Accent is a small, inexpensive car meant for everyday driving. It’s typically chosen for being practical and affordable to run. The podcast likely brings it up because the name “Accent” matches the conversation topic.
Term
carbon shop
A “carbon shop” is a place where the team works on carbon-fiber parts. Carbon fiber is a lightweight material, so teams use it to try to make the race car faster and more responsive.
The Kia Stinger is a sporty car with a sedan body style. It’s designed to feel quick and fun to drive, not just to get you from place to place. The podcast mentions it because of the car’s name and reputation as a performance-oriented model.
The Goodwood Festival of Speed is a big car event in the UK. People bring impressive cars and drivers, and they show them off by running them up a hill.
The Toyota Supra is a famous sports car from Toyota that’s known for being fast and fun to drive. Here, they’re talking about a Supra that shows up at a car event and looks especially wild because of its styling and aero.
A V10 is an engine with 10 cylinders. The “V” shape helps it fit in a compact layout, and engines like this are often built to rev high and make a lot of power.
Formula Drift is a racing series focused on drifting—basically sliding the car around corners in a controlled way. Drivers are judged on how well they keep the slide going and how smoothly they do it.
In NASCAR, a “lead lap finish” means the car finished on the same lap as the race leader. It usually indicates the car ran well and didn’t fall too far behind.
A “rain delay” is when the race stops because of rain. When it starts again, the track can be different, so drivers may have to adjust their driving and tire grip.
Port Royal Speedway is a NASCAR-related oval track in Pennsylvania where short-track racing can produce tight, high-contact racing. Restart timing and restart positioning matter a lot there, which is why incidents on restarts get discussed heavily.
The Buick Grand National is a classic American car from the 1980s that’s known for having a turbocharged engine. It can make a lot of power, so people get excited when they see one—especially if it’s being driven hard.
Term
550 blade
A “550 blade” is a type/size of rear wing piece. The wing helps push the car down for better grip in corners, but it can also make the car less free on top speed.
Car
McLaren hypercar
McLaren is building a very expensive, very high-performance race car for long-distance endurance events. They’re showing it off by letting a top driver drive it, and the point is to prove it can handle racing conditions for a long time.
“Legend car” sounds like a special, showy race car category. The host is saying it’s basically the same underlying car concept, but with a different body style.
A curb is the raised edge at the side of the track. If a car hits it, it can bounce or lose grip, so it’s a big deal in racing.
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Happy Monday, guys. We're in here in the nonsense garage stacking some pennies on
a Monday late night.
Stacking them deep, selling them cheap. It tastes like gasoline, grubber, and victory.
Where's that here, stacked pennies?
If you stayed up all night to watch cup race full transparency, I did not. I tried
to. I kept I kept setting alarms to like wake me up in 20 laps and then I
remembered like briefly that Blaney had won when I woke up this morning but I had to
go back and watch the highlights. Damn that thing was fast. Blaney's car was
unbelievable. I mean that was I mean dominant performance did you see he was
one point short of the perfect night. No, he didn't get the fastest lap. Oh, who
got your question? Guess I'll give you 37 guesses and you're not going to get it.
Oh, no. Ty Dillon. No. Oh, man. Who got the fast? I heard somebody talk about how
they got the fastest lap and I forget who it is. Cody way. Cody. Yeah. Go Cody.
Snatch that fastest lap. Give me that thing. Yeah, you can kind of manipulate it
at super speed. Especially after a restart when the track screen no rubber on
it. You can get the big toe from the back. Cody where I said, I don't want you to
have 76 points. You're getting 75 points tonight. Ryan Blaney. Congratulations to
Cody where he's got some dogs on his team. Yeah, Kelly Tommy Baldwin. Shout out
those guys. Those guys make that thing. They work on it. Nice. Yeah, they're nice.
Yeah, but Blaney's car, man. I haven't seen at a drafting track like get the
pole dominate the race. And you know, a lot of times when a car like that that
gets the pole loses the lead, you're like, okay, we're going to see how they do
in dirty air when they get back. He would just drive right back to the front all
the time. I don't think that they talked about that a whole lot on the
broadcast because the Toyota's clearly had a lot of downforce built in their
cars qualified 25th and deeper. So I looked at that like, okay, they're
hedging their bet needing some downforce and they're going to be able to
manipulate themselves through traffic. And there was the tail of two sides, right?
You get the Toyota's heads or bet towards downforce. You had the Ford's in the
22 and the 12 front row. Those guys heads or bets towards straight line speed.
And clearly both of them found their way towards me. Chevrolet's were fast too.
And host of ours leading that thing on the white flag. He's got a really good
knack for that place. He like that place rewards aggressiveness because the car
never drives good because all the air is so turbulent. So that's what he is
exceptional at is like manipulating the car and traffic, putting himself in a
little bit of a better spot than other guys. He was wrapping the line like
old school Atlanta. Do you see that? Yeah, especially the three and four. It's
easy to get that real like numb shove off the bottom if you don't lift the right
spot. And he was just wrapping like Kevin Harvick style around the bottom.
Found a lot of juice there. But before we get real too deep into the weeds with the
weekend, let's talk about the week. What'd you do this week? It's past week and I
just, well I trained all week. So it was a unique situation with some guys getting
hurt. I had been filling in on the 77 car and it was supposed to be two or three
weeks. It ended up being on it for seven. But then this week after practice on
Wednesday, late on Wednesday, they're like, Hey, AK is going to go back in this
week. Feel comfortable with where he's at. So it's like, okay, perfect. So
inevitably probably about 65% of my workload got taken away because cup is
just so much more like I love the O'Reilly series. I love practice and
Saturdays, but there's just another level of like preparation for cup races that
you have to put in and that your body goes through and there's no turning it
off. No, you can't kind of turn off O'Reilly's, I guess. You can like work in
the truck series three days a week and still be productive. Cup races, eight
days a week. Cup racing, you just can't. I mean, and shout out to that 77 team. I
know we talked about Carson having a good knack for that place, but man, he's got
a great team. And just to be thrust into that the last couple of weeks and, you
know, working locks up with Luke and Dan and all the guys on the road crew, they
have just a great team they've assembled. So not only Peter Suspensow,
Studnick, CJ, all those guys. Jack, Jack Tucky is what I like to call him, the
entire guy. If I didn't ask him five times, I'd ask him once, where are you
from, Jack? He's like, I'm from Kentucky. I'm not telling you again. But, but to
see, like, yes, Carson is exceptional, but you can't drive a slow car fast.
And he's got fast race cars. So it works together. And that team and seeing what
Spire built there, I know you've been there for years, but with Matt McCall
and everybody that's involved over there. Gabe Hart. Yeah, I don't see Gabe
Hart. I don't have much. He was a long rock this weekend. That was my game. He
sat next to me on the plane. I said, my game today was was seeing how many
places I could pick you out of the crowd. And I picked him. He was like, I saw
him in like, there were seven corners. I saw him in five of them. I would just
like, where's Walda? Where's Gabe Hart? Really? Yeah. He had his little iPad.
Like, you know, you'd see him in the cup race. He has a little iPad walking around
like, Oh, there he is right there. Oh, there he is in the middle of the crowd. Yeah,
I didn't see him much going up there, but they, yeah, they got a great team. That
was cool to be a part of excited for where they're at and where they're going.
Right in the playoffs and they're certainly talk of the town. Rewind back
was a Tuesday or Wednesday when Zane and Riley Herps when I'm busting. Dude, Zane
is just out for blood right now. I love beef. I think it's good.
good for racing. I mean, he's can't get any more transparent. I don't like the
guy. I change tires for Zane last year. So I told them that he was they were
mad that I said, I think Zane's just mad that he stole his tire changer. That's
why he's crushed me. That's my story. I'm sticking to it.
Well, you've worked for both of these guys. And look, man, the bummer for me. Like,
and here's the good thing. You don't have to pick sides. No, I really like Zane.
I had a great time with Zane and their group last year. And he's a dog. And I
really like host farm with it. And they're doing very different things. Yeah.
And he was like, well, I think everybody inherently is like, what side are you on?
I'm like, neither. I like watching both of them do the thing. Like, I like watching
Zane talk crap and do it the way he's doing it. And I love what Carson's doing.
Like yesterday, he put up a post. If the first 77 people to come to my
merch hauler and trade in another cup drivers shirt, I'll give you a free one
of mine. And I was like, I wore this shirt, this Rob Moroso 1990 shirt, because
I was running through my shirts today. And I was like, what's what's a shirt that
I would not trade in for anybody else?
Has to be active driver. Oh, that's what he said. Okay, active.
And I'm not even going to say names, because, uh, but like who what's I got
some, I got Mark Martin shirt. I got a couple of Dale shirts. I got this.
This thing's sick. Like great idea. He probably should have did like 777 because
there was a ton of people out there. Yeah. But the merch trailer been like,
we ain't got that many shirts. Yeah. What are you gonna start making some money?
I wonder what he does with all. He's always thinking he's like,
well, he's, I'd like to see how much screen time he has, because he's always
reading the tea leaves on which way the wind's blowing us. But it's like,
he's, he's kind of figuring out the, like the Cletus space, like the, he hangs out
with, I think the whistle and diesel guy that we met down there at the Cletus's
race there. And he's, so he's wired to think like that. So I wonder he's turning
his radio, if you go on the NASCAR app and listen or on HBO max and watch
his in car camera, he's turning his, his radio of the race like a, like a Twitch
stream. That's how he's living his life. Dude, I was watching it yesterday.
Perfect example for him to act the way that he does men be so free. He's like,
I'm just living the dream, dude. I'm playing on house money. This is what I've
always wanted to do. This is my childhood dream and he's just having fun. And he
said that he said Dickerson came up to him before the race who own spire and he
gave me advice and Dickerson looked at him and said, he goes, Jeff gave me this
advice and he goes, are you going to do any of that? And Kars goes, you know me
too well to know that I'm not going to take any advice from you. And he was
like, all right. So like that's he, they let him be free like that. And then I
saw Chase Briscoe do an interview was like one after the other. And they were
like, how did it feel to win last week? He's like, I was just relieved. It was
just I wasn't like I was just more relieved than it was happiness because
it's a whole different set of circumstances. Like if they were to say, Hey,
Carson, host of our year in the five car next year, yeah, it would completely
change. You can't you can't act like that. So it's just different. And he's in the
racing in life is so much about time. He's able to be who he is because of the
timing and the people he's around. And it just all worked out for him.
Well, it's easy to when you're running good, you can act however you want to.
If you're not winning races and the expectations are there to win races,
that's when you got to button up a little bit, right? That's why you don't see,
you know, I got a peek behind the curtain there that one week, three days I drove
for for Rick Hendrick drove the nine. I saw real quickly why those guys couldn't
show a lot of character or a lot, a lot of personality because you go in there
and there's no excuse as to why one of those four guys shouldn't win every week.
And it's not the like the culture there is great. Yes, it's the fact that
it has nothing to do with with Rick or that it's it's the fact that the
that you feel like you are expected to win. And if you and if you are doing
something that takes you out of that, then you don't want to be perceived that way.
So it's internal pressure of from yourself. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, but it's not like
you go in there and it's like Darth Vader stand there saying you gotta do something.
It's not like that. No. So don't don't take that the wrong way. It's just
when you when you have the resources like a Hendrick Motorsports or like a team
Penske, you feel like you're letting everybody down if you're not winning.
If you're not winning and you don't want to show that you're out
doing a bunch of stuff or that you're not focused. Could be looked at as a distraction
because you you have 400 people behind you that show up to the racetrack
for every week. So that's yes. That's the burden of and the responsibility for a big
team like Gibbs, right? And that's where Chase Briscoe is like, man, it's a very unique.
It's a very it's a very unique situation that because not often is a call it a
not a tier one and a half team like Spire is now in conjunction with with Hendrick and Chevy
is as fast as they are. And that's what this cars opened up. Right.
But Carson is growing with the team. They're growing at the same rate. That's right.
All right. Let's shift gears, Carson, back to the week. So we went to call it Mac
College sponsors a PGA senior tour event in Akron, Ohio's hometown. It one of the nicest
courses in the country's Firestone Country Club. So I've never played a pro and before with like
fans. You ever teed off with like anybody besides who you're playing with watching?
No, I really mean either. We played with so on our four summit was myself, Ty Dillon,
Minnie Tyrell and Larry Peters from Campers and you guys in your fire seats. I saw a picture
you guys in your fire. We just we went to playing golf. No, I'll do it was hot. We went to top golf
and we the what's LeBron James School there in Ohio. But I know what you're
talking about. It's an academy or something. Right. LeBron has a school that he gives
kids in low income districts like a good education with great teachers and all things. So they had,
I don't know, 50 kids come out to top golf and we put our fire suits on the whole thing.
I could just I was just picturing. Man, these fans put they paid play with the drivers and
need you to wear your fire suit. You know, we got it. We got to show Ram off because you know,
Ram Rams who we is. So we did not go off in our fire suits. We did golf. You get to pick.
So Matt's team, Matt Colleague played with John Daly. You know, they got Ernie L's,
they got BJ Singh. They got a lot of guys from the tour that you would recognize.
I only know John Daly. Well, David Duvall was a guy late 90s. He was the world number one
golfer at some point in time. Him and him and Tiger Woods went back and forth a couple of times.
Should have made it should have made a nice tea. Half ice tea, half lemonade if you want to know
who we were. And John Daly for what it's worth is exactly who he like there's he's just that's
the guy. That's him. Just untuck shirt, ripping cigarettes. Well, from the time you see him
in 9 30 the morning before tee off until six o'clock, he's got some sort of alcohol drinking
this hand doing it. And then he just, you know, hits 134 He's gotta hurt, bro.
Well, at this point in time, he's pickled, man. Like you can't stop. If you stop drinking,
it would be bad. Yeah, his body's functioning off of nicotine, alcohol and caffeine. So he's
the guy. Nicotine plus caffeine equals protein. That's what John Daly. So we play with former
number one golfer. We had a blast. We ended up finished in second. Yeah, we I hit him better
than I ever have my life. But yeah, I'll tell you, teeing off buddy with spectators.
That's a different thing. Where'd you hit it? I hit it like kind of right side fairway. I hit a
nice one. I took several logs off the fire. I was like, I tell myself all the time slow down
and I still like 110% of what my golf swing should be. And I have a natural slice. And if I go 100,
I go real slice bad into, you know, the next fairway. I took a couple logs off the fire,
kind of put it like four feet into the rough off the fair. I'm like, okay, that's respectable.
Who shanked it? Many was. Many had a tough go. Many had a tough go.
Was it bad enough where the fans were like, ooh. Yeah, no, no, no, it's actually like,
they don't say anything. Right there. You don't even get a clap. It's just like,
it's all right, buddy. Keep trying. Yeah, you hear birds chirping. You're like,
all right, well, let me go. Well, find this ball. The bummer about having everybody watch you when
it was first holiday, you're everybody's watching it. Yes. Well, you get a breakfast ball, bro.
No, no, no. This is like you have a score ride with you the whole time. Give me a breakfast ball.
He took several breakfast balls later in the day, but you don't get a breakfast ball off the first
tee when you've got a hundred people watching. That was different. It gave me a different
appreciation for pro guys, man. It's different. And we're still dicking around, right? It was
a shambles tournament, so you used your first one's best tee shot. Shambles or scramble? A scramble is
everybody's best shot in, right? It's like, if I hit the best drive, you hit the best iron,
you hit the best putt, that's your score. Shambles tournament, this is what we did is
best whoever's drive is the best. Everybody drops their ball there, then you play your own
and you keep your score because everybody had their own little handicap situation. So
that was unique, too, because I usually like is hit. I'm always playing scramble tournaments
because I don't ever play by myself. So that was a unique thing, but it was fun.
There was then what do we do? We flew back, flew to Lyme Rock. We'll recap that real quick.
That was the worst we've been all year. It was a team. Oh my goodness, we were garbage. We had
Colin Braun, who's a world-class road course racer. He finished ninth at St. Pete in that 25
car. He was up in the top 10 there at the end, and then he kind of ran the third. He finished
ninth. He finished tenth. No, he got wrecked. No, he finished tenth. He came back to finish
tenth. After he got there, it was like half the cars were off the racetrack at some point,
time to last four races. He was way off. Yeah, yeah. So we were bad. We chipped away at it.
We got to like 15th. Yeah, I felt you were going to get a top 10 out of it. I only got to watch
the end of it because we were flying to Atlanta. The way it all worked out, we'd have finished
probably fourth because we were on a tire advantage. And then we had a mechanical oversight issue
that didn't allow my truck to proceed forward anymore.
Can't get any details on that, but there'll be some tough conversations today in the shop.
So that's the hard part. It's like, man, we've got no SIM. We have no notes on
trucks. The colleague has no notes on trucks. That place is, so Lime Rock, it's cool, man.
I got to give a shout out to that group. I think Parker Kligerman has some sort of ownership stake
there. It was packed. It looked like an IMSA race, an F1 race with tents, hospitality, food,
trucks, they were like the entire, every hill spectator, you know, general mission ticket was
full. Like it was awesome. The race track was one left hander, six right handers, all of them
were pretty much 90 degree corners or like 80 degree corners almost. And we did not have the
right setup at all. We didn't have the right third gear ratio. We didn't have the right second gear
ratio. We were just out to lunch, but we had a, we had a salvage day. That's like the sixth race
in a row. We've been running inside the top 10 and had something happen, whether we got crashed
or something break. So that's starting to get a little bit old. I used to keep showing up.
Got to keep showing up. I heard the arc race was rough too. I didn't even watch it. Shout out to
who Thomas Inuziato won that. And then he caught me in finger. Yeah, finger got the, got the dub
on in the truck race. That was cool to see. He's one of the good guys, man. Did Inuziato,
did he go to hospital or something? I think it was smoke inhalation. He swallowed some fire.
I think he tweeted. That sounds cool. I swallowed some fire. Had to get checked out. I mean, that
thing erupted in flames. Catch you down at Wilkesboro next week. Yeah. So I wanted to touch on
just like it, like Jimmy Johnson said it, after racing San Diego, it is absurd how guys race.
Fast forward that El Raleigh is raised to that same night. Guys just being dumb.
Well, let's take a quick break and come back and put a cap on Atlanta unless you got anything else
left on, uh, on Lime Rock. Uh, well, I was going to go real deep, real, real hard into pain on
guys buying rides. And that's just like, yeah, we don't know. Is it worth it? I think so.
Okay, go for it. One last thing. Because the horse is dead. Let's beat it some more because
it's fun. Let's get the stick out. It almost causes everybody. Like if you have myself,
Daniel Hemric guys that were like short track guys, build your own stuff, know how hard it is to
fix it. We would have a general level of respect and what's another word? I don't know. Maybe
respect or just racing craft on restarts. But you know the guy behind you isn't going to have
that. So that forces you to do something dumb because you know the guy behind you is going to
put it in there. It's like, uh, rental go-karts with your friends. It's like one person takes to
the next level and it's like, Oh, it's game off. Like if that's how we're like, that's what we're
going to do. Yeah. Somebody puts you in a bad spot, runs you off, just merges, drives you like,
okay, next person I go to, whether it's his fault or not, I'm going to do it back to him because
that's just how the cards are being played. How was, uh, how was the time up there? Connecticut,
LaJoy's family wrote up there on sat Friday afternoon. It was cool to see grandpa and Murph.
Shout out Murph. The whole family come to the racetrack.
Missy came to the racetrack. They were posted up off at turn five. I kind of saw them under
a tent. That was cool. Uh, yeah, yeah, that was, uh, it's cool to go up, but Lyme Rock
is an hour and a half from everywhere. It's an hour and a half from any dude. And whenever
Canada, it's an hour and a half from Norwalk. It's an hour and a half from New York City.
Well, that's better than most things in Connecticut. So when I was racing at Stafford,
everything was 45 minutes away. Yeah. You had to go the grocery store down the road. It was 45
minutes away. Everything was 45 minutes away. Yeah. I don't know why that is. I have no idea.
It's a small state. Uh, all right. Now let's take a break. Now that I got that out of my system,
we'll put a bow on Atlanta. We'll look at some memes. We're going to talk about cup race
a little bit more right after this. All right, we're back. Let's put a bow on Atlanta right
quick. So junior motorsports cars were fast. Of course. I was happy to be changing tires on one
man. I thought we can get a, we had a good shot to get a first swim with Raja there. Um, but just
didn't quite work out at the end. They kind of all, he was 87. Who's that Nick Sanchez? Yeah.
Little rough. Little rough. Well, and his, in his perspective, right? He's got,
has been sitting on the couch for three months looking for a ride. Yeah. Yeah. And he gets,
it gets in like that. Hey, Atlanta's my track. I gotta get up here and get to the front. I just
get a little rough, bro. He was. He'll log off the fire. Well, he's kind of sniffed the air out
the left for the 21 there and got him in a bad spot and then drove Raja on the fence. And then
inadvertently Brandon pool was in a good spot. Try to win that thing. Yeah. Well, I saw Brandon
pool leading and I was like, Ooh, if the cost comes out, he's going to win this thing. If the
cost doesn't come out, there's some Hendrick motors behind him that he is going to have the
wrap ripped off of that thing as fast as the seven car goes by. The seven man, Justin's just so
savvy and he's like in such a good spot in his career where his cars are fast, his team is good.
He's not over skis. And he just like can sit back, watch all the young guys kind of make a
mistake and then he's just off to the races, man. And he's such a pro like, Oh, I love seeing a guy
in his career. He's fought to be there for so long. And now he's just made into such a great spot
where he's very comfortable with himself, the human he is.
And he moves that team forward. Man, junior motorsports needs to do whatever they can to
keep him in that car for the next couple of years. Cause just he's like a great leader without
trying to be a leader. He just naturally people want to gravitate towards him. He's a good person.
Yep. And man, the seven team is just what's that? They're six or seventh win this year.
It's great. Great for them last two or three years. Those those guys have been just hot
over street doing a great job, man. What's, uh, who's guy, who's creature Jim?
Pullman. Yeah. Yeah. What's he doing these days? Jim Pullman that was his creature. He went to
he went to three or the eight car and they pulled him off and they just stick them in
like the jams. Kind of like the, kind of like the make up a, make up a job for the
crew chief leave. Yeah. You know that deal. That's not working on creature. We're going to make
you the head of engineering vehicle performance. Yeah. Um, well, it doesn't matter if it's Jim
Pullman championship winning creature. He flashed year or Andrew over street, that seven car is
strong. It's, it's the guy, you know, you got to have somebody up there in any team that is the
adult is set in the bar of how you communicate is set in the bar of what your baseline setups are
in the sim and your practice and Q deltas and things like that. And Justin's just, he's that dude.
Yeah. No, he's great. It's cool. It's cool to see. It's good to see. And then yeah, like we said,
the cup race was tail two races. It was strung out. People getting lap there at the start. Oh,
yeah. And then it rained and, uh, took all the rubber off the track. It cooled down and then it
was like a typical Atlanta kind of drafting. Everybody bunched up at the end. It's time for
practice to come back, at least one, just a 20 minute practice. See how your car drives in the
pack for super speedways. Uh, even yeah, sure. Talladega drafting style. I guess. Yeah. I mean,
I can, sure it may, you can say that doesn't make sense to go ride around at Talladega
because you're everybody kind of knows and where your heights need to be and handling is never an
issue there. But you go to Atlanta, you're, you're hanging up. So you're saying bring practice back
just for Atlanta. Just a normal 20 minute session. You get in there, you get around 34 guys,
see how your stuff's driving, make an adjustment. You would see less and that might be what kind
of NASCAR wants. Hey guys, let's let it rip. No practice. Let's see. Let's see who did their best
homework. I think that we've evolved from that. I think that there should be a normal practice
session for, for Atlanta because there's such a delta between guys pulling rounds out to sit
on the stops for qualifying and they put rounds back in. You don't really, you're kind of guessing
on where the drivability of your car needs to be with rounds. So NASCAR, go back to some practice
for Atlanta. I think it would make, uh, I think it would make the, the racing product no different.
I think it would just help some guys from the back half the pack, not be swat and flies the first
run. Yeah. Uh, pit bosses this week. Who's that? It's going to be the 12th team, dude. They've been
getting hammered all year long and, uh, Jonathan Hassler, that Raymond Fox, everybody behind the
wall working on that 12 team, Tony Palmer, all the engineers and car chief, crew chief,
that thing was a rocket ship. And only thing you can do as a pit crew is mess that up.
Yes. And they did not. They executed all day long. Uh, the fuel tax was weird to kind of see
where people are coming out, who took two, who took four. If you took two or you did a quick
pit stop early, it means you had to take a longer pit stop later, uh, to get all your fuel in the car.
They did everything they had to do. They even had to fill it up one time, lost some track position,
because they had to pay the fuel tax and they still got back to the front and won the race. So
shout out to all those guys. I know it's been a tough year, even the race that they won at Phoenix.
They had a little bit of a tough day on pit road, so they didn't want to go to victory lane.
Going to Wilkesboro this weekend. What's pit road going to be like?
Pit road is curved at Wilkesboro, but there's a lot of room to work. Um, big pit boxes. It's just
funky. It's a little bit like Martinsville. See, we haven't ever been there other than the All-Star
race where half the field is in the race. So there's a lot of openings, room,
but coming around cars. So you enter pit road into three, so kind of on the backstretch,
then it wraps all the way around and dumps back off the track, you know, right in the one and two.
So all of pit road is shaped like the track. So depending on where you're pitted and where the,
you know, whoever picks around you, if you're in the corner there, it's going to be like 20
pit stalls that are in the corner. You're not going to be able to see your car coming in. So
it's going to be easy to get a jump line penalty. That's what I foresee. The pitbox are big and
there's some room, but you're going to be on top of each other, especially if you don't get a lot
of laps. Is it going to be 400 laps? I think it's 400 laps. Is it 400 laps? That's what the
cup races used to be like. I think that's what it is. It's a long race, man. It's going to be
awesome. It's going to be awesome. I might just ride up there and be a fan. I'm watching on TV. I'll
watch. I haven't had an off weekend all year. I was going to go do the truck race. I was like,
is that Saturday? I guess it's Saturday. Oh, Riley's is off this week. So I was like,
man, if I don't have to do the cup race, I don't want to do the truck race. I'm going to go race
my modified at Bowman Gray. Night of Destruction. If you're in the area, they got the Night of
Destruction at Bowman Gray this weekend. They've got monster trucks, Demo Derby, Twin 25. So the
modified has got a new sponsor. Is Bowman Gray on the way back from Wilkesboro? It's kind of out
of the way. It's not on the way. If you're going there, then it means it's not out of the way. If
you're on your way there. That's right. I might swing on by head on over. But yeah, we got Citrus
Safe Pro on board this year, which will be fun new sponsors. So it's been fun to watch. They got
transponders out there now too. No way. Transponders a little bit of drama this week. It's not just
like people just like, Hey, I think Tim's going to be on the polls. Yeah, I think, you know,
old John Boyce is going to be on the polls. Yeah, a little bit of the winds of change are
blowing there at Bowman Gray Stadium. Well, whatever they've been doing for the last 50 years,
don't change it because it's great. You go, you go there, watch a fight and a race breaks out.
I don't mind the transponder thing. Yes, I want to make it a little bit more legitimate when you're
spending all that money on your race cars, working on your race cars, just wondering how fast I'm
going. That's it. I don't want some guy with stopwatch telling me that I would get out of the car
after practice. One guy would tell me how fast it was. One guy would tell me I should load them,
go home and it was all in the same lap. I don't know what the hell's going on.
What else we got? Oh, how about I was unfortunately watching the end of the race in the hauler
up at Lime Rock and speaking of dogs, where we're going here, Grant Enfinger.
Who was it? Brendan, Eric Brennan. I think he's phenomenal up in the booth.
The first one liner he rips off about Grant Enfinger. He's like, and Grant Enfinger snaps
a 40 race winless streak. We didn't even know that. Just say, hey man, first time he got in
Victory Lane in a long time. Why is that a big, why is that a sticking point for you?
Because I just don't think that that's, I don't think that that was the time or place
needed to be set or the way he said it kind of was like, I ain't like that. Well, Grant Enfinger's
a champion. Yeah. 40 races is more than a season. It's almost two seasons. I think that's an important
stat. It was how he said it. I didn't like it. You don't like his New York accent? No, I think
Eric Brennan's phenomenal job. And I think he should do with all due respect every truck race.
Yeah, but like 40 races, Grant Enfinger's a guy that shouldn't go 40 races without losing a race
or that winning a race. Maybe so. That's just my own opinion, man. Take it for what it's worth.
Appreciate your opinion. Eric, I think you're great. I saw Eric on Friday. I went over and I
called the modified race at the NASCAR studio for Claremont. You ever seen Claremont? It's a
weird looking racetrack. Is that North Carolina? No. It's in New Hampshire. A little bit of a
Snooze River race. Patrick Emerling won. Pass Matt Hirschman, but I did it from the studio in
Concord and then the other guys that were calling the race were in the booth in Claremont. So I
had like a three second delay. So it was challenging. But when I got in there, they were just getting
done with the arc race. So Blaney, Eric Brennan and Phil Parsons were in there. So we got to talk
to those guys for a little bit. Okay. One more opinion. Can we all agree now that Atlanta is
the best racetrack? All right. Yeah, I think everybody's in lockstep on that. Should we do it to
Texas too? Yes. Texas stinks. Texas is not great, man. Texas used to be one of the best
racetracks we went to. And now it's just once a year. Now that we know and Atlanta is going to
age, it's going to be more abrasive. It's going to be more spread out and less three wide finishes
for the lead as years go on. Let's enjoy it while we have it. Let's just restart the cycle of Texas.
Let's just go ahead and restart it. Bulldoze it, smooth out one and three and four, put even more
than what the previous banking was 29 30 degrees. Everything's bigger in Texas and bring the Indy
cars there with it. Oh, and then move the fans back 50 rows and cross your actually no fans allowed
in the grandstands here. No, no, you got to watch this one. You got to stream it. Yeah, Peacock.
Oh, speaking about streaming on Peacock McGregor, what a letdown dude, we went to so we got done
with the race and like everybody's like so Saturday night done with the O'Reilly race goes a little
long and we're like sitting in the rental car and we ride us to on the 88 ride with the tire
changes from the seven. So they were a little bit late getting back because they were in Victory
Lane. So we're like figuring out Texanor wives getting a Peacock login and Paramount get it or
Paramount whatever it is and put it up on the on the screen in there and we're like dude the entrances
are the same. Yeah, McGregor's back and then the first first kick blows his knee out. Well,
I I stayed up to watch that one. So I get back from Lime Rock because I'm going to bed it was
like 10 o'clock. I'm like, I'm going to stand back. He's my guy. Right. The baddie choked the guy out
like 10 seconds to just like an anaconda and like a baby deer. And then I'm like, I'm powering
through this thing I want to see because I think the Connors health. I feel like Connors healthy.
I thought he was going to get his ass kicked the whole time. You didn't sell. What's that? Your
dad says about drivers? Your wallet gets too fat. It's hard to push the gas pedal all the way down.
The guy's got too much money. Yeah. Who wants to get punched in the face? You got to go in the
deep waters when you're locked in a cage with Max Holiday or anybody. Yeah, especially the guy
that he locked himself. Yes, dude. I can't imagine jumping into a cage with literally a trained
killer and that all that guy wants to do is end your life. And McGregor was that guy. Yes. Made
too much too fast, man. Yes. Too much money too fast. Yes. I did. I got down all the rabbit holes
just like, you know, people think that it was conspiracy that he was hurt going in, which
might have been the case. Who knows. But it was cool to see just that guy's a showman buddy. If
he was hurt going in, he wouldn't have tried to spinning. He'll kick right off the back because
he couldn't stand up after he tried it. Yeah. So he tried it the first time. You could see where
it tweaked. Yeah. Joe Rogan was like, why would he throw that? What is he doing? He was like hammering
him a little bit. Well, it's, I mean, a big shot out of the gates kind of his MO too, right? So
that sucked. That sucked to see. Yeah, what a letdown. Speaking of too much money,
Mayweather's broke? No. Yeah. We're down a rabbit hole now. But yeah. I did not hear that.
Floyd Mayweather's like broke. Yeah. He spent it all on that race team.
But he's right. I mean, broke maybe according to him. He's probably got more money than us.
But if he probably sold one watch. I think it's a tax thing. Oh, yeah. Uncle Sam will
knock on that door. Hey, I need some of that. But I've had a thought. I don't even know how to
articulate lately. I just don't feel like I've been, you know, prime stuff went great.
Dad's stuff's been going good. We're in a good little rhythm now with the baby.
Good little rhythm with Kelly and I. I just don't feel like I put a lot of dubbies on the
board lately in life. I don't know why because maybe I have a lot of stuff going on and I can't
really get traction with anything. And I feel like you just got to change some things up every
time. Is this therapy? Okay. I do agree. And I think that when you get in a business ownership
like you are right now, it's like a lot of death by a thousand cuts, right? Little things.
Or death by a thousand. And then the wins. Nobody sees them with you.
And when we're used to going to the racetrack and winning and everybody seeing it and
congratulation posts on social media, you're doing great. Everybody's telling you how great
you are all the time. And then that dries up and almost gets worse. But I think that for me,
in those moments where it feels like things are flat, that's where the biggest amount of change
good or bad comes. Oh yeah. Because when things are flat, you got to be chugging and pulling the rope
to get up to have that no one's watching, right? Or you could be sleeping in eating like shit.
Not working out. Just letting it. And then you end up like, oh man, how did I end up 20 pounds
overweight? What am I doing? Those are the moments in your life when things are flat,
when you don't have a lot to look forward to or things aren't going good. That's where you figure
out if you're leveling up or you're leveling down. Oh yeah. And I think too that you have,
especially with this carbon shop, right? Because that's been where a lot of my focus and a lot of
my money is being spent these days. And you have these internal benchmarks. You think when I do this
and this done, then I'll be able to do this. And every time you reach a benchmark,
you don't really acknowledge it. It's just like more stuff that has to be done and more time it
takes to scale up to where you ultimately want to be. Because we've reached four or five benchmarks
and getting seats done and getting them tested. And it doesn't feel like how I thought it was
going to feel. Oh, the wind. Well, when you have winds, when you're used to racing and you have
winds, you celebrate the king, it's a big thing that lasts for a while. Ah, not in business.
You just go, oh, okay, I did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I got to send an email. Yep. Now I
know them all. Yeah, and I got to write another check. Yeah, it's weird, man. Being adults is weird.
Yeah, yeah. No, I still get a taste of like the, I'd love the in the trenches with the team,
just like you, right in the trenches with your team on the 88 car or the 77 last couple weeks.
That's how I feel with the Ram guys. Like that's a great group and you can measure your success,
good, bad, or indifferent based off the work you put in. But yeah, the carbon shop has been a drag.
I've been wondering, like I spend a lot and honestly, even this show to extent, like we come in here
every Monday because we enjoy doing it. And I'll tell you a lot of times, Michael, there's a lot
of other things we can be doing on Monday. But the 15 people up at Lime Rock, they're like, hey,
man, I love the show. That's what fires me up keeps me going every week. I get, hey, love the show.
Hey, yeah, like somebody or a lot of messages from, I mean, even look, we're, we're making friends
in Australia and New Zealand. Shout out to the Kiwi that texts me because I called him an Australian
on the show last week. He's like, I'm a Kiwi. There's some beef there with some sports stuff.
But yeah, it's, it's, that's the, that's the wings. And that's why I like, I do,
I spend a lot of money to go race my own race cars. And I'm like, why, why do I do this? I could
sell all this stuff, have a sweet pool in my backyard. My wife's like, your cup's not full
if you're not racing. So you need to go race. And like, that's what I like to do. Like yesterday,
I went and worked on my race car for four hours and I had to hustle back because we went and
saw Toy Story 5. You seen Toy Story 5? No, how is it? It was hilarious because the whole time
in there, there's some parts where it's like sad. It's, it's kind of all about the kids growing up.
Yeah. The tech boom and crew. So it was like, I was on the end and Chris was next to me Harper,
our Chris's dad Hector, and then crew was on the other end, like in the middle. Yeah. And he just
kept looking up and going, mom, you crying? You all right? Mom, you crying? I'm like in the middle
of it. She's like, I'm okay. And then like another scene would pop up. Mom, you crying down there?
Are you okay? And I'm like, dude, stop. There's a bunch of other people in here. There's a packed
theater. Yeah. But it was, it was good. I mean, that's just like the fun stuff. It was, it was cool.
That's what we look forward to as dads, man. Going to see Toy Story 5.
I need to go see it. I need to go bring my older two. It's fun. I ate a whole thing of popcorn,
drink, drink a Pepsi Zero. I don't feel like popcorn calories count.
I don't think they do. Unless you put the butter on it. You know what I didn't miss yesterday?
Speaking of calories count? Yes. Rain delay calories don't count, but then they do.
They count the next day when you feel like you're a pile of garbage. All right. Let me ask you this.
Should we take a break or should we keep going? No, I like this conversation. That's what people
want to hear. When rain delays start, everybody gets hungry. It's like the locusts come out and
everything in the truck gets eaten. You're eating stuff. Salami rolled cheese that's been in
from a month ago. Refrigerator back and forth to the West Coast. And generator turned off on.
Oh yeah. It's just, what was your favorite? What was your go to rain delay snack? Uncrustables.
Oh, see, I stay away from the uncrustables. Why? Because I just, I met like the head
uncustable. They're based out of Akron, Ohio. So they were at that Topgolf where I'm wearing
my fire suit like a nerd. They had a smucker's mascot, a bite taken out of it. The guy was,
you know, waving, gauging with all the kids. They had some, they took from wherever, whatever
the, wherever the uncrustables factory is down the street, they had some fresh uncrustables.
That's the best sandwich I've ever had in my life. I got a question. It's unbelievable.
There's only one question for them. Yeah. What do they do with all the crust?
All the cutoffs? Yeah. What do you do with all the crust, bro?
I didn't ask. That's a great question. Maybe they don't even make it with crust.
When you bake the bread, it has to have crust, doesn't it?
Luffy. Like the jelly hadn't like seeped into and made it all mushy yet.
Do you like the frozen ones? They all of them become frozen at some point in time.
This one was not. Like these are like fresh packaged on our doorstep at the top though.
Buddy, let me tell you, change the world. Which, which jelly? I'm a strawberry fella.
Strawberry. Yeah. That checks out. I'm a grape guy. Yeah. There's no bad flavor.
There's no, there's no grapes. The hunt. I don't love the honey ones.
But I'll tell you what my, what my tough one is right now is, you know, Ram has five haulers
at the racetrack. There's a engineering hauler, all the Pratt and Miller guys are in. That's where
we do our like our post practice meetings and they have two tubs in there with like the fun-sized
Skittles wild bear, the purple packs, the red packs, the sour packs. I grab one of every flavor.
You know what we have in our truck is a sour patch kids. But you know what gets me, you know
it's been getting me later lately. Same, almost the same family as in Crustple because it's round,
but honey stingers. Oh yeah. I've been on the honey stingers or the Rip Van Winkles,
whatever they have. Somebody was telling me about jams. It's kind of like an uncrustable
alternative. I need to look into that too. There's a lot dude. You find, you get to the bottom
of snacks. I try to stay fruit. I try to stay oranges, bananas, but what fun is that? Yeah,
I gravitate towards the sour Skittles. I, if there's a one of those variety packs of
like Hershey bars, I'm going to go in dark chocolate first. Yeah, same. Then I'm going
in probably dark chocolate. Then I had a Kit Kat for the first time in like 20 years.
Not bad. If I listen, if I'm having a bad night, I'll tell you what undoubtedly the best candy
bar is. Tell me. It's that the Reese's, is it fast break? Take five with the pretzel.
If I'm having a tough night, tough night at the races or something, I'll stop and get
and take five and a coffee. Yeah. Oh, son. And there's three of them that come in the packs.
So if I have my daughter with me, I feel right because I give her one. Yeah, you feel like
I saved the calories, made it worth it. I mean, that's, that's the type of conversations we
have every week. Take fives, best candy bar in the world. I'll tell you what though, one last thing.
This week around at the turn, whole nine, they had a big Arctic cooler sitting there with ice,
with candy bars in them. I grabbed a Twix. Tricks pretty good. Don't sleep on a Twix now.
Is anybody else? Do you, do you ever steal kids Halloween candy? Yes. I hide it for myself.
Like I'll take, I'm a gummy guy. I'm not a really chocolate guy. I hide the good stuff.
I hide it for myself, but then I also know where it's at. It's about eight o'clock at night.
Nine o'clock at night. I'll sneak in there and say this. I'll tell you that. Have I said this
on the show? I have learned, I've cracked the code for training your kids or bribing your kids.
I buy a five pound bag of Albanese gummy bears, the best hands down gummy bears out.
And I put them in our little outdoor or garage, a garage fridge. If they're a little bit whiny,
I don't want to ride my bike today. Oh, my legs hurt. If we're on the other side of neighborhood
taking a walk, I said, guys, if you make it all the way back to the house and don't complain,
you get one gummy bear. And if you pedal all the way up this hill, you get two gummy bears.
Buddy, that wind of stops real quick and then the legs start moving. So we, we've been through,
I don't know, 55 pound bags of gummy bears since Levi's been a kid, but that is the move,
buddy. Let me tell you. 25 pounds of gummy bears. Yeah. Now, 20 of those probably been consumed
by me. I just grabbed a handful of me going to the house, but like that's like a milk bone to
a Labrador retriever, bro. Try that one. It's good. It works tremendous. You're just like,
you can't talk to a kid when like their brain's going, Oh, this hurts. Oh, my legs hurt. Oh,
hot. I'm tired. But you can dangle a gummy bear out in front of them, buddy. They focus right in.
All three of my kids not pedaling on bikes. That's how you do it. Hey, man, you get a gummy
bear if you pedal. Okay. We go to the cul-de-sac, we pedal around, get them a gummy bear pro tip.
Gummy bears in your fridge. Bribed the kids. Tell us your favorite rain delay snack too.
Let us know. Yeah. More coming up after this. I want to look at some memes. We got some good
stuff coming up. All right. Time for some memes right here on YouTube guys. This is my favorite
part of the show because there's some cool stuff in the automobile world happening. Goodwood Festival.
Just a lot of guys driving expensive cars up a long driveway to some guys castle here. Let's
let it rip. What do we got? What is this? Toyota Supra? Supra? Carbon? Buddy with a V10. Listen to
this thing. Who's driving it? No, no, listen. Okay, the wing on that thing, dude. Ryan Turk.
Oh, it is Turk. Okay.
Holy, dude. That thing is so sick. You have to lift?
You probably have to lift to not pull the front tires off the ground with that
wing on the back. That is so sick.
I wonder how serious some of these teams take good with it. I wonder if they scan the track
and they run sim and all that stuff. Yeah.
So Ryan Turk, he's drift guy. He's a Formula Drift guy. Yeah, Ryan Turk is one of the best.
Yeah. That's cool. He was driving that thing. That is a sick car. That is a dude. The best one
there ever. Was that electric car there? Did you ever see that? Like three quarter scale
electric car? I think hauled the mail. What's this? Jeff Foxworthy? You might be red as his
moonhead. Yeah. What moonhead have to say? What is the first thing? I was conceived during a
race. Right here we got, what's that? What's the guy's, what's that? Moonhead, dude. He's a
large racing round table. He says I was conceived during rain delay and then moonhead off the top
rope. Jeff Foxworthy meme. You might be a redneck. I missed that guy. Moonhead's one of the
funniest follows. He says some crazy stuff sometimes, but he's a funny follow. Yeah. I mean,
you can't, not everyone can be homers. You know, every now and then you got to have,
you got to have some strikeouts. Oh no, speaking of strikeouts, how did Zillich do yesterday?
I think he finished 28th, but lead lap finish, not torn up, finish all the laps.
That's just something you love to see. Not the finish that that 88 group wants to see.
I saw him in a really bad spot on a restart after the rain delay. It was, he was like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Oh, this is big right here. This was terrible. I saw this.
So this guy passes them. Well, they come to the checkered right here. Port Royal Speedway.
Right hooks them. No, no. Oh, Race is over.
That's, that's when you need to get beat up. You get punched in the face for that. You need to get
beat up. You are fighting. Yep. Yep. There's no, there's that. Even if you don't want to
beat them up, you somebody's got to beat them up. You can't right rear hook somebody after the race
is over. Oh, yes. Ultra car. Good one. You'll be like, this thing is sick. Who's driving this one?
I'm not sure. Oh, dude, that's a race car. That's a race car dropping rights off. Yep.
Do that. I want to go to Goodwill. That gets me. That gets me excited.
Just something about seeing a Buick Grand National. Is that a 85 maybe? That thing's sick.
Give me a do, buddy. That makes me want a mountain do right now. It doesn't
get the dash in. Give me a do. Kurt. Kurt's been having a regular old European vacation
over there. Yeah, he has. Good for him. That's the same car he had a Lamar, I presume. That thing
is a legit cup car, cup engine too. Yeah. The whole nine. Yeah. That's a big
550 blade on the back of that thing, but big power. So a lot of downforce. A
A heavy right foot with all curves. Listen, he's like, I'm not going for the record. I'm
going to burn this thing now. Oh, yeah. Now, is there two separate courses like where you go
fast and then one where you think that's the end of it? Okay. Yeah. I don't know much about it. I
just like watching all there. So Jimmy was kind of telling me about it. There's there's a closed
road course, some areas. And then there's I believe this is the closed road course.
One of the coolest things though, too, is I've been interested in this McLaren hypercar
program since it since they dropped it last year. They've been working on it.
They've been developing this WEC car world endurance championship. And this was the
essentially the unveil of McLaren's hypercar and none other than Lando Norris letting the thing eat.
This thing looks nasty, bro. Not not driving it super fast. You know, he was going
don't wreck this thing is what they told him. This thing cost us about 10 million dollars
looking good in the papaya and black. And while he is going quite slow. Yeah. Yeah,
the only order he has is bro, do not touch anything in this car. That's a bad looking ride.
They're going to be up against a lot of the same as all the other one. It's unique because it's
orange. Yeah. Tail lights look cool. And I don't know those things have never done it for me. I
don't know why. I think that the tech arms pretty neat. If they if they drop, I think they're
indie cars with big bodies. And then you got his fellow fellow competitor, Liam Lawson,
also driving it good. Well, let's see what he's driving. You have a hypercar too.
F1 driver in the world's most powerful van. Oh my God. That's a that is a metaphor for
the cars are driving on Sundays and F1. That's what he's driving up against up against Kimmy
Antonelli's F1 car. He's driving a van. Oh, man, what do you think? He's going. He's ripping
that he probably went faster than the hypercar probably did. Shout out, Liam Lawson driving
the hell out of that van. Oh, did you see this? Oh my God. So this is a car for these. Well,
is this a legend car? I think it's in Australia. So he hits if you roll back a little bit, roll
back, roll back. He hits the curb and the body like the body digs into the asphalt. Where is
this in Brazil on the right side? No, I think these are this Australia.
So he hits the curb. The nose get the bonnet gets stuck underneath the right front tire.
Watch this when it gets rid of the part. Yeah, pause it here. That's a legend car.
car. That's a legend car with a different body on it. That's all it is. That thing went for a ride.
Those cars look sick. They do look sick. I'm thinking about getting a ride on one of them.
Now, everybody from VA super cars tell them, come on, come overseas, come overseas,
we'd love to have you. That's more of the car that I want. That's what I wanted. I don't want to
be against the VA super car guys. Yeah. I'll race against these guys. I could wreck. I'll get you
right to the scene of the crash. Dude. That's a big wreck. Hopefully it was okay.
Last one here, guys.
Huge pile up on the restart. This is the first time I'm seeing this. Oh, it was right out of my windshield.
Oh, boy. I didn't see this.
Commosack around. This was dust. Who else is that there? It's Lane and Lewis.
That wasn't that big of a pile up though. No, no, there was way more pile ups later than a race.
In eternal one guys just running off in the grass and smashing each other.
You hearing anything good on truck schedule for next year? They're going to put some more
short tracks in or what? I don't know. I have not heard. I heard Lamrock coming back.
That's good. Yeah. I think that there should, I think I said this last week,
there should only be three companion truck races. Maybe. Did you guys do
live pit stops? No. Hot dog breaks. Now, if you came in, so we quote unquote flip the stage,
there's a yellow with like five to go stage two. We came in out pitted and you have to be on pit
lane for 55 seconds. So if you rolled it, yell on the yellow line, it's 25 seconds. So they
essentially build you in a 30 second pit stop. It can't be done worse. Yeah.
What do we got? Is that it? I have seen it. Yeah. Everybody's seen it.
The guy getting run over by Buffalo. Tough. Well, he just, he didn't get run over. Flip them up.
Man, I think that as a species of a human. Let's just put a little, let's put a little
play by play on this thing. Warning. This video includes a bison chasing down an elderly man,
67 year old. Right here, he knew, right when he turned the corner, he knew he didn't have
enough gas in the tank and that bison gets underneath of them and launches them to outer space.
Thank God he hit the 60 year old man and not that kid. I know that's his grandson. I just think that
I feel as though you got to keep it moving right there. You can't stop. Put the phone away grandpa.
It's not. Yeah, you're not a zoo tactic. So I did read a tweet. Guy said, when you see a
bison's tail waving, you know that there's some danger coming. When you see that tail go up,
danger is already there. Really? Yeah. When that bison's tail is vertical, you better go
ahead and find somewhere to hide. Thank God we don't have any bison in North Carolina. Look at
that thing. That thing is pointed up like a beacon. He's seeking missile to this grandpa's ass.
Good thing for the grandpa. Boom. Good thing for the grandpa. He's got a great picture of the
bison before it got him on his phone. Hey, this is the one. Do you think he was trying to selfie
that thing while he launched into outer space? Just as a culture, I feel like we take for granted
how wild animals are. Yeah, wild animals because we see them in the zoo and see them on TV and
we need a poo bear. They're not cute and cuddly. No. You got to watch your ass around these guys.
You're coming into that guy's house and that thing does not like you. And they're the kings,
dude. Yeah, and they just showed you. The only thing that's gotten us in front of them is spears
and guns. That's right. If you ain't got one of them, you better keep it moving. Keep them moving.
Keep them moving. All right, we're going to keep them moving too because we have stuff to do on a
Monday. We appreciate you guys each and every week tuning in. Ryan Blaney gets it done. Justin
Algar got the job done Saturday night. Grant Enfinger, Saturday. Bunch of new rivalries.
Bunch of new rivalries. Host of our Smith going to be a good one to watch.
Host of our the host of our Heimrider rivalry is the one host of our I'm ready for bro. Yeah,
I am ready for that one. Let us know in the comments what your favorite rivalry is. My
favorite rivalry of all time, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt. Yeah, Rainbow Warriors versus the
it just worked out man. Yeah, I and that's really the only one that's that's the top of the heap.
Kyle Busch, Joe Logano was pretty good. Tony Stewart, Joe Logano was pretty good.
Yeah, Tony was kind on the back side of his career though. Yeah, Kyle Busch and Joey
fighting, fist fighting was great. California. Was that California? Yeah,
that was Vegas. Okay. Yeah. And maybe we're in store for the next decade of great rivalries here
in NASCAR. A lot of good stuff happening overall. A lot of good stuff happening behind NASCAR,
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About this episode
Rivalries and racecraft take center stage as the hosts break down dominant performances, dirty air, and how restarts and downforce shape pace. Corey LaJoie adds team context—why “you can't drive a slow car fast,” how big-team resources raise pressure, and what it’s like filling in on the 77. The conversation also swings to Atlanta and Lime Rock logistics, pit strategy tradeoffs, and a few off-track moments: merch promos, Topgolf charity fun, and Goodwood car spotting.
Carson Hocevar and Zane Smith are quickly becoming one of NASCAR's hottest rivalries. After Zane publicly called Hocevar a coward, Corey LaJoie and Skip Flores debate whether the feud is good for the sport, if Carson is becoming NASCAR's next great villain, and whether this rivalry has the potential to join NASCAR's all-time great battles.
The guys also break down Ryan Blaney's dominant win at Atlanta, why Team Penske's No. 12 is firing on all cylinders, and whether Atlanta Motor Speedway has become the best track on the NASCAR schedule.
Plus, Justin Allgaier's dramatic win, Grant Enfinger returning to Victory Lane at Lime Rock, the Goodwood Festival of Speed, superspeedway racing, rain-delay snacks, and the biggest stories from across the motorsports world.
Let us know in the comments: Is Hocevar vs. Zane Smith a real rivalry, and what's the greatest rivalry in NASCAR history?
