New Honda Prelude, BMW iX3, Fun Pickup Trucks, Audi's Future

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All right, so for those of you watching, may notice that we have Greg with us again, but

Kyle's also here and I'm here.

So the three of us are going to cover all of the news and reviews because there's some

big news this week, and instead of a guess, we'll just spend a little more time there

and then I'll call them on later to talk F1 and we'll wrap it up with what's ahead.

So welcome again, Greg and Kyle, nice to be back.

Right?

We had Greg for the last two weeks subbing in for one of us.

So now it just makes sense that the three of us are all together.

Three-person show.

Yeah, I was like, Colin and I too.

We missed two weeks because of our vacation, so it's been a while and the whole crew's

back.

All right, so let's get started with easily the biggest news of the week is the much-anticipated

Honda Prelude has finally officially fully been revealed and what do we think about

it?

I'll let you guys go first because I'm pretty positive on it.

So I love to look.

I know people are saying it's just a Civic Coupe, but I don't think so.

I think it's more than that.

If you expected Prelude styling cues, that wasn't going to happen.

It looks like it should for a modern car, and even the Prelude itself completely changed

every generation, so there's no precedent there.

With Civic Type R pieces, it should drive phenomenally.

The only thing I'll hold judgment till we drive it is the hybrid system is great

in the Civic.

I just hope it's in sport mode all the time.

They've made it more eager, and then I don't think it'll be a big issue.

I know people will bag on the electronic continuous transmission, but wait till you

drive it.

I'm actually cautiously optimistic too.

I'm very intrigued to drive this.

I think I give Honda a lot of credit for going down the Coupe route.

Who else is doing stuff like that these days?

I think the hybrid powertrain is going to be solid.

Honda's done a good job with that.

Of course, the Type R bits, I mean, yes, please, let's see what they can do.

I think the interior, that's one of those I think you really have to see, feel, and

touch and experience just to see, but Honda's been pretty solid with interiors for the

last probably five or so years.

I'm cautiously optimistic on this one.

I'm leaning towards positive for it.

I think, like Mike said, I think it looks fantastic.

I did realize Canada is not getting the boost blue color that is in a lot of the hero photos.

The press releases for that had photoshopped red ones.

I find that interesting because this white and blue interior, I hope no one's going

to expect it with a red exterior because that's a cursed combination, but I agree

that it looks good inside and Honda's quality has been solid.

And I think now is the time where a hybrid actually makes sense.

If Honda would have brought back a prelude 10 years ago and said, oh, it's going to be

hybrid only, I don't think it would really work with this idea of it being a grand tour.

And now when you contrast it against something like the Civic Si, which is a more

paired back sport compact that we're used to, or the Integra, which is a little

more luxury focused, I think there is a small part of the market that this fits into nicely.

The hybrid powertrain is great in the Civic.

I don't feel bad missing out on the added interaction of a manual.

And now that we're going to have this S plus shift feature, which will simulate shifts.

I feel like that'll give people more of that flavor if they want it.

I think this works.

I hope the market reacts positively to it because I think it's a unique thing.

Like you said, Greg, no one else is doing this.

When the Civic coupe died, that was the last of the front drive coupes.

So now we have one again.

This reminds me a little bit of the Cherokee I saw a few weeks back where I think

some of the real like hardcore base was maybe hoping for one thing.

And then they got something a little bit, maybe not quite what they were hoping for.

But I think Honda did a good job being like forward facing with this, you know,

with with the hybrid, with the it's I think it's a good looking design.

I really do.

So I think it's, you know, just like the Cherokee fans didn't get a carbon

copy of the old XJ, this is not, you know, the early 2000s or 1990s prelude.

But I think they did what they had to do.

They moved it forward.

And I think that's a good thing.

I think this whole, like any vehicle that comes out is fully

going to be a successor failure, depending on price.

If Honda prices it up around the type R, it's going to be an utter failure.

But if they keep it closer to the side, because the prelude,

the last gen prelude, at least it was this front wheel drive crazy

handling performance car that could run with a lot of rear drive

four and six cylinders of this time.

So in my mind, this needs to be the front drive BRZ, basically.

But if it's 10 grand more, it doesn't matter.

So pricing is going to be a big factor.

Yeah. And that was something interesting.

Honda's PR sent a follow up email today about this.

And while they're not telling us price yet, they did give us

the Japanese pricing and then talked about the conversion as a way to just,

you know, let us know roughly where it might fall.

And with the conversion, it's 40 grand, 41.

And that's tough, right?

Because that's that's five grand above where the Integra starts.

And I expected it to start above the Integra because this is more loaded.

There is no base model.

But I think this needs to start under 40 to really make a dent.

Yeah, like you're playing in some high powered territory at that point.

And again, the original period, the last period was kind of pricey,

but it was equivalent.

I mean, I guess like a fully loaded BRZ is around just under 40 now.

But yeah, still, yeah, the Z Nissan Z isn't much higher than that.

You're you're plenty well into EcoBoost Mustangs, if not up to GTs.

I'm not saying you're going to I mean, Kali,

I don't like to say these are cross shop,

but the only things that you can think of that performance.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Like you get a very well trimmed GTI for that money.

Right. And then you're getting into an interior

that's just as nice quality, more powerful, just as practical.

The the prelude obviously has the fuel economy advantage

and maybe the handling advantage against its front drive competitors

because it does have type R bits.

So yeah, I'm I'm very curious if you can get a base Z

with literally double the horsepower of a prelude for the same money.

That's going to be tough.

Although, then you're stuck in the interior of a Z.

I think in this case, it's not like this is going to be used.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you can stick a car seat back there,

I think that's going to be that's going to be tricky.

But you'll probably be able to get, you know, I don't know,

a booster seat back there, pretty reasonable.

So and that's truthfully probably not the market here, too.

So I mean, it's it's going to be interesting, you know,

especially you look at some of the figures, 200 horsepower

is like exactly on the nose.

What the old one did back almost 25 years ago,

232 pound feet of torque, though, that's a torquey experience there.

I mean, that's going to be, I think, pretty fun to drive.

You know, it, you know, contextually, when you think back

to like what 200 horsepower was in the year 2000 dish

and then what it is now, I almost kind of wish, hey,

maybe they could have added like 20 or 30 more just to like,

you know, because 200 horsepower now is like, I mean,

that's like an HR director's Camry or something, you know,

that's nothing special, like, but 20 years ago it was.

So it feels like they should have maybe goose it up a little bit

just for, yeah, especially since this prayer

that's going to carry like three, four hundred more pounds

at least because just everything's heavier nowadays,

plus the hybrid tax, so the the Japanese specs

put this put this at 3200 pounds.

So it's actually nicely light for a hybrid.

That's not too bad because the prelude was just under three thousand.

So that's only just over 200 pounds.

So that's not that anyway.

Let's move on because we got lost to talk about we do

like the next big debut, which I mean, we are all

children of the 80s and 90s that loved the prelude.

So it was sort of more near and dear.

But this is arguably the bigger deal.

This is BMW trying to reinvent the brand's styling and sort of

I wouldn't say they're their philosophy

because they still want fun to drive.

But the new IX3 is the first of the new way class A

that has been teased six times before.

But hey, it's finally here, kind of.

It'll be produced later this year for Europe

and we'll get it probably summer next year.

So they already have an IX3 in Europe, not this one, just an old.

Yeah, it was like, which is like the X3 all electric.

But this is the first of the whole new thing.

And I was in Germany to see it in person.

There's a video you should check out on the YouTube page.

I was, as we've been saying this whole podcast,

positively optimistic about it.

It's the 50 drive.

So basically, what will be the big power is coming out first.

So it's just under 500 horsepower from the two electric motors.

The way the electric motors and computers and everything

and the battery, which is over 100 kilowatt hour usable energy.

Everything is so much more efficient and requires less pieces

and hopefully keeps weight down.

The styling is growing on me.

I think it's better than the current BMW styling.

I know a lot of people don't like it,

but they're purposely trying to look like the original new way

class A from the 60s, which I think is kind of cool.

And in person, that grill actually does kind of slant forward

a bit at the top and the bumper exaggerates that look inside.

There's so much space front and rear.

Four adults are fitting in this thing,

even though it's within an inch of the current X3 in every dimension.

It's a little longer, a little shorter and sort of a little longer,

a little lower the ground and a little less wide.

The cool thing is like every car nowadays,

it has a pillar to pillar screen.

It's forty four inches, I think, and it's about two inches tall.

But it's all 3D to a degree.

So it looks like the stuff you're looking at in the screen

is two feet further down than it really is.

So it kind of gives you perspective

where you can look at the road more than the info.

It's really cool.

And the touch screen allows you to customize what you see there.

Sort of like Lincoln and Cadillac have.

It has 3D augmented reality head up display.

Couldn't really use it because it was stationary,

but that's going to project something like 19 feet down the road.

So it looks like where you're looking.

You're actually seeing the stuff down there

as opposed to having to look down at your little screen.

So all the text there, like I said,

it's built on an 800 volt architecture.

I can charge a 400 kilowatt speed.

I mean, good luck finding that charger anywhere.

They'll come one day, but yeah, they're saying I could do

I guess 300 something kilometers of range in 10 minutes

if you have a 400 kilowatt architecture.

But yeah.

So I mean, I got to touch and feel I'm impressed.

What do you guys think?

I like it.

I think this is I kind of like the Noya

Class A however you say it styling.

I think it's BMW is, you know, they're not afraid to take risks.

And I like this.

I like the kind of throwback grill.

I think it's funny how divisive the grill is.

We could do a whole show on the BMW grills,

but they've actually really changed quite a bit over like the last,

you know, their history.

So I kind of like that they're doing this throwback,

even though it's not a direct throwback.

I think the clean styling looks good.

The electric architecture and range and everything sounds very promising.

I like parts of the interior just looking at the pictures.

And I know, Mike, you probably you did see it much more closer

than I am just through pictures.

I don't love cars that have that kind of like almost horizon

like like visual display set up and then have that big screen

just tacked on like the iPad.

I much prefer like like Lincoln's where they do a pillar to pillar,

but it's a bigger screen.

Like if you're going to do it, go big.

Don't give you that kind of like, you know, again,

the way I describe it is almost like a horizon type setup.

Like to me, that's just not as usable.

I'm actually in a Mercedes right now.

It's yes, it's the EQS and it's just screens,

but it's all very more usable.

I realize this is a different price point, different segment,

but that's my soapbox on the different screen interfaces.

So that's one thing I don't love about this.

Maybe, you know, drive it be a little better.

But overall, I think they're in a pretty good spot with this.

I think, you know, BMW is still being aggressive here about like,

you know, electrical architectures and try to, you know, advocate for that.

And, you know, again, I like the design.

So I think, you know, in fact, I think I like it

more than many things BMW has done recently.

I was just thinking the same thing, Greg,

is from a styling perspective, these pictures, I really like this

in a way that I haven't felt for a lot of modern BMWs.

But to your point, they've the brand has taken a lot of swings

and is not afraid to take risks in a way that the other German brands just don't.

I mean, I guess Mercedes did with the EQS and we see how that went.

But largely, I think BMW is the least conservative of the three.

And this is a new look,

but it really does feel old school influenced in the nose, especially.

I think the proportions are good.

It's interesting to me that it's so close to the X3

because then I wonder if it's sharing a platform like a basic platform architecture.

I know that the EV architecture is all new,

but it seems strange since the X3 just debuted last year, right.

And so I mentally I'm trying to make sense of that.

But this all sounds promising.

I like the look of the interior.

The new steering wheel probably takes some getting used to.

But I again, like that they're taking a chance

and making a very interesting looking design.

I I was very jealous that Mike got to do this

because I've done multiple BMW trips that have led up to this,

but not the actual Neue Klasse.

And so like I remember experiencing that horizon screen at CES a few years back.

There was the Neue Klasse X concept a year and a half ago.

We got to see.

And I think BMW has been slowly building this, right.

They have been getting us used to this idea.

And I think this is the right thing for the market.

The charging sounds super impressive.

The range is great.

I just wonder what's going to happen to the IX.

This feels like it's nearly the same size, maybe not as fancy.

It's going to start at a much more reasonable price range.

But other than that, like I I don't know why you go with an IX anymore.

I I X is our number, like I think there'll be an IX five down the road.

Yeah, with the IX three and it'll be, you know, slightly bigger or something.

Steering wheelie broad is interesting.

It's crazy and the pictures don't show it, but it's only attached

at the top and the bottom with this sort of almost like framework metal pieces.

The pieces at the side are actually not connected to the wheelie.

And that's where all the function buttons are.

But everything fits where it should be.

And it's one of those things that got used to using it.

It would be fine, but it's not a not something that you'll just jump into.

But I think it'd be better than, say, the Mercedes, which has never been good.

My experience, so yeah, I so size wise, it is way less

cargo friendly than the X three.

It's kind of soopy, so it kind of explains it.

This is more of a it's like almost half the cargo when you put the seats down.

It grows and it does have a two cubic foot frunk for, I don't know, tiny things.

But BMW did say, well, I'm just looking back on my article

to get the exact number, but they're going very aggressive.

So 40 BMW models will have this technology by 27 so in two years.

Now, that's not to say they'll look like this, but that new

I drive and the horizon screens and all that, they're going to be everywhere soon.

So get ready.

I would I would I just want to add to about this is what I really appreciate about

BMW and I'm sure they gave the same messaging spiel to you, Mike, when you

were there is they they see a holistic view, right?

That I think makes a lot of sense.

And I think car buyers would like to hear more of this.

There is no one answer.

Like, yeah, they're they're moving towards electrification.

And in Europe, there's a lot more electrification and their plugins run

50 percent of the time on EV power, but they're reinvesting in hydrogen.

They are still doing gas.

They they see a diversified approach as the only way to make sense.

And I I really appreciate that a brand is upfront and honest about that.

All right.

Well, what's great is anything to add and move on to our next one.

I think we're good.

I think we hit that pretty hard.

All right.

So a complete different direction.

Kyle and I did a comparison, which wasn't really head to head.

It was more of a fun and it was about off-road fun.

So we each grabbed a brand new pickup truck, sort of midsize, that we thought

would be the most fun off-road ready truck.

I will start with what I got.

I grabbed the new Tacoma, the new Tacoma.

The non-hybrid max, just the regular version, because it has a six-speed manual

option in the TRD off-road, the off-road is right in the name, so I'm good to go.

Yes, it's not the most off-road capable by far, but it's still got

decent tires and ground clearance, but I have a six-speed manual.

Before we get into how it drives, Kyle, what did you bring?

Oh, yeah, yeah, let's let's conveniently skip over how the six-speed manual drives.

Yeah, so I I brought the Jeep.

I brought the Jeep Gladiator, the Willys.

I mistakenly thought that there was a six-speed manual still available for it.

That is not true as of 2025,

but it is the only convertible pickup out there.

So that earns it a whole lot of fun.

And I mean, it's a it's it's a Wrangler with a pickup bed.

That's the shorthand, but it's true.

They haven't even, as we pointed out when we were walking around it,

they haven't even changed the rear doors.

They still have the awkward cut that makes them very tiny,

where the wheels would be on the Wrangler.

But you know what? It was weird.

It was interesting. I drove this and I wasn't I'll be honest,

I wasn't hugely looking forward to it because

I don't know, I've driven a Gladiator a few times over the last few years.

Nothing has really changed.

But since we did a comparison with a Wrangler recently,

it provided a really nice perspective of how smooth the drive is in the Gladiator

by comparison, because of that longer wheel base, that it's actually

pretty OK to drive.

I know it's not good for truck things,

but this is a statement.

It just happens to be a pickup.

So it's like a Wrangler and I really enjoyed that.

It is the best driving double solid axle vehicle sold today.

Exactly. Yeah.

If that's a thing.

So let's let's go back to your six speed manual, though.

Yeah, so it has the turbo four cylinder, which is fine.

I mean, I'm not one of those people who's like, I need the iron anchor V6 of old,

like, whatever, makes more power, way more torque compared to your V6.

It had less, little less power, but way more torque.

We both agreed way more usable torque going up hills.

You'd have to downshift the gear to with your auto to kind of keep up or

get a little heavier with a throttle.

This thing just powered the four cylinders.

It's really interesting, though, because

as a lot of direct injection engines are, it kind of clacks at it.

And with the little turbo whistles that are audible,

kind of feels like you're driving an old Tacoma diesel or Hilux, I guess, more so,

which kind of gives you this old school feel, which perfectly matches the

transmission because I'm pretty sure Toyota dug into their 1980s parts,

been to find this transmission.

It is a massively tall long throw with a

plastic top and

it takes a big effort to switch gears.

I don't mean in the sense of it's tough or strength, it's just you have to launch

from one gear to the next because of how long the throws are.

And then when it's in gear, every time you hit a bump because it's actually

connected to the actual transmission, the whole thing shakes back and forth

like an old school manual.

So as you're driving down these dirt roads,

my gear shift lover is literally moving within a foot back and forth nonstop

and the bigger the bump, the more it's going to jump.

And if you watch our video, I got some footage of it dancing around.

And that's just how transmissions were in tons of cars back in the day.

And when you add that sort of fake diesel soundtrack,

it just feels like you're driving an old truck and we were trying to find fun.

And it's not a fun manual.

It is not all that fun to drive in the sense of like enthusiastic fun driving.

But it's fun because it feels like you're in a bit of a time machine

and you can go over a decent amount of trails.

Tell you what, I was having your top off and a bright green truck.

But that truck is just crazy looking that gladiator.

I wasn't part of this one, but I will say this, I'm not a huge fan

of the manuals in either of these trucks.

I know that might be blasphemous, but it's just it's so much work to drive

them. You know, I much prefer and they both offer really good

automatics and get me wrong.

I love a good manual transmission and almost anything.

But these trucks are a lot of work to drive.

And I think I could say that roughly two

bitty feathers with the stick shift.

And, you know, I do think the new the new

taco is really a really great truck.

It's really something that is offered.

I think they did what they had to do to update it.

And, you know, the gladiator just continues to abide.

They did some light refreshes a few years ago, and it's still a lot of fun.

I guess my other sort of hot take on this is I actually think the gladiator

rides better than the Wrangler.

I think that longer wheelbase just it's way more forgiving.

And, you know,

it's just, you know, the Wrangler can be very harsh on the gladiator.

I just think dimensionally smooths things out.

Yeah, if people have the extra room to handle having the pickup.

Yeah.

And don't mind the price.

I would actually steer people towards maybe trying to gladiator if they were

thinking Wrangler because it does ride much smoother.

It doesn't wonder as much either, which is yes.

It's easy to take the roof off, too.

I think that's kind of obvious, but much to my surprise, one day I came out

and my seven year old, maybe six year old at that point, this is last year,

had the roof largely off.

He had pulled both of the handles and like was lifting it up.

And I'm like, I think that roof weighs about as much as you.

So I mean, it just shows, you know, jeeps,

the cult of Jeep starts young and they're easy and accessible and

kind of want to drive a gladiator right now.

That's I guess that's my other thought of this.

So before I just to your point, Greg, about the trucks and manuals,

like obviously we're not expecting a manual and a truck or a purpose

built SUV to be like a Honda S 2000.

But because there was such a low take rate, it's like the technology

or refinement just stopped because why invest into it?

And the ones that exist, they're just so out of step.

And like you said, the autos are great.

I mean, different class, but a similar situation is I remember years ago,

I drove the last v6 manual Cayenne and I was so excited.

I was like, oh, yeah, it's looking at manual Cayenne.

I remember driving it being like, oh, like this manual isn't good.

It doesn't make the Cayenne any better.

So, yeah, it's, you know, I said in my review, if you're going to do a lot

of serious off-roading, you're probably not buying this truck anyway.

But if you are going to do a lot of like more hardcore off-roading or towing

or dead and you want full control, there's no better thing than to have

your manual to check your gears with the two speed transfer case.

But that's a small percentage of people, which I guess is why this

is only available on two trips.

All right. Moving on to, hey, we're back to debuts

and are very important for manufacturers.

Audi has introduced the Concept C, which is, well, it looks like a electric TT.

But from some angles, they're going to hate me for saying this,

but I get some crossfire vibes.

Crossfire vibes. Wow, shots fired.

OK, not that we were in Audi's good books, but we're definitely not now.

They have made a new book just to burn our names in it.

This overhead shot was the way that the back is.

That's it's only the overhead angle, like from the sides and the three quarters.

No, but yeah, it's it's going to be.

I wouldn't say it's quite new, a class A for Audi, but this is sort of

hinting at where they want to go as a brand stylistically and probably technology.

Mm hmm. Yeah.

And in terms of design, this seems like a new one, which is good because

Audi's design language the last few years has just kind of.

I mean, it's my turn for a hot take, I guess.

I feel like the VW group like VW, Seat, Coupre and Audi, they've all just kind

of blended together and they've gotten more close

stylistically than I think maybe they should be.

And this reinvents Audi in a way where the the shield grill is prominent again.

It has a more distinct like a rectilinear face.

I I think this looks great.

It calls to mind a lot of the great concepts from the 90s and 2000s that Audi

nailed because that's when they were doing their best work.

And so, hey, cool, a new era, I'm on board.

It's it reminds me a little bit of like a GTR, a Nissan GTR.

And I mean that in a good way, as in like a kind of muscular

coupe that they're trying to make a statement.

I also like the fact that they're just doing a concept coupe.

You know, it's like a meeting motor show is, you know, happening.

And like, Audi's like, hey, we're going to, you know,

get our design language out there in the news to it.

Like I wrote in our hot takes, this feels like 2015 or something.

So, you know, credit for doing this.

I don't like love every element of it.

I definitely don't see the 1936 Auto Union Type C race car lineage.

They're trying to like draw into this.

That's that's a bit of a stretch.

But, hey, I think what will be interesting

is to see what they do with this.

Do they actually make, you know, an interesting coupe?

Are they going to, you know, are we going to get like a TT or a TT RS or something

like that? Think of all those years, you know, Kyle,

like you said, they did those cool concepts.

Like it seemed like every auto show, we got a cool E-tron concept or something.

It'd be great if they could do that or something like this.

And, you know, because I think as Honda is showing,

I think there is a bit of a market for coupes.

So let's go for it.

I agree with you, Greg.

If they wanted to go full Type C lineage,

they should have put the dual rear wheels on, you know,

really, really go after the old hill climb look and stretch it out a bit.

Kyle, do you point out with the shield?

I think that's huge.

Audi has like a cool logo, like one of the coolest.

And I've always loved it.

And too many of their modern cars, you can get it blacked out.

And to your point about styling, just yesterday, I saw a car coming

like, oh, that's cool. What's that?

And I was thinking of a ton of brands and it's got closer.

Oh, it's an Audi because the four rigs were blacked out on the grill.

And it couldn't and it was slightly modified.

So couldn't tell. I was like, yeah, I don't even want to get into the cars.

I thought it might have been at first.

But, you know, like, did you think it was a crossfire?

What this is? No, no, no, no, no.

I said, it's only the overhead look.

I see the GTR in the front end, like you're saying, Greg, I do see that.

No, it's just so many sedans look so similar now with the

thin little lights in the blacked out grills.

And they have a prestigious name in history and, you know, flaunted a bit more, I think.

I mean, BMW is going a little over the top with their kidney grills and badges,

but there's a happy medium in there somewhere.

Yeah, I'm I'm really excited about this.

And I know that well, I think this is sharing the platform

with the Porsche EVs that are supposed to replace the 718s.

And so dynamically, look, I know that's a whole other subject of whether or not

those should be replaced with the EVs.

But if I'm going to have a brand make an EV sports car,

I want Porsche to do it.

So if Audi gets to benefit from that suite.

I mean, here, here, I agree totally on that front.

And I would argue that this platform would be actually better served for Audi.

Because this is kind of what they do is like Audi is like electric

coupes, things with this type of proportions.

You know, you just think back to all those e-tron concepts, like I said,

this to me, this makes way more sense for Audi versus an electric 718, which,

hey, I love EVs, but to me, the 718, you got to have a gas fed motor and those

things just for them to be sort of what they are.

So and if there's one styling element that makes it off this car,

Audi, keep those tail lights. I love those tail lights.

They look really cool. Yes.

All right, moving on to another debut, far less important for the manufacturer,

but still pretty cool is Mercedes is teasing that the G-Class,

their big off road is going to go back to Cabriolet.

And now this isn't Wrangler Cabriolet, where you're taking the roof off

and the doors off like maybe you could.

But the kind of old school where the back section opens up only.

Drive that, right?

Yeah, yeah, it looks like it's going to be similar to the

the Maibach from about a decade ago.

I guess you get your servants to take the roof off for you.

I don't know.

Or your your posse because you're about to shoot a hip hop video.

I don't. This is so far removed from like every day folks.

But it's it's going to be what everyone wants, right?

Because that's what the G is.

It's what everyone wants.

It's the ultimate image car, right?

Like that's what people buy.

It's like a Wrangler, but like five times the money,

but it doesn't drive well.

It's just people want to be seeing it.

So what's a better way to be seen than with the roof missing?

So I think I need to just send a message to the press fleet.

I kind of want to drive a G class.

That's my main takeaway from this is this just reminded me that,

along with the gladiator, is like, hey, let's every car we're talking about.

Craig wants to drive.

I think I want to drive that one.

Yeah, I've been in some other things.

They're a little more basic in many ways that's like, hey,

you know, let's have some off-road fun here in the suburbs.

Yeah, I mean, I.

Go ahead, Mike.

I just say because we're talking about the gladiator so much

and looking at the silhouette, I'm like,

is this like a pickup truck G wagon?

And then I started thinking how cool that would be, but it's sort of.

Yeah, I mean, like as much as I'm joking about it,

I just recently drove a G class for the first time and it was the EV.

And yeah, I understand the that side of the appeal of it being the ultimate

status car and so to Mike's point, why not get the convertible?

You're going to be silly and try to draw a spotlight on yourself.

Get that and convertibles are more fun than hard top cars.

So yeah, I'm sure they'll sell every single one that they make

and then they'll get people on the wait list for the next one.

I'm always surprised how many celebrities drive these things because they're

fairly difficult to drive, you know, with the steering and, you know,

just how like top heavy they can feel like, I don't know.

I guess you have the money to pay for the repairs if you bend them.

Yeah.

And to your point, Kyle, but convertible is better.

I mean, people will always like you.

Well, it doesn't make the car handle as well.

This and that. It doesn't matter in this thing.

If anything, you're helping it off road because there's less weight.

So yeah, yeah.

Mercedes will sell every single one they make, just like when they had

the six wheel version and then when they had the

what was the one that was jacked up with the portals?

Oh, the square square.

Yeah. Yeah. That thing was so cool.

I've never seen that at the auto show and being like, I want this.

But there's a part of me I'm realizing now that wants jacked up SUVs

that I never thought existed.

I'm driving a Bronco heritage this week and I'm liking it.

Like it's like I become a different person behind the wheel.

It's just cool.

Speaking of cool, Kyle, let's talk about another car you recently drove.

The Panamera GTS.

Yes, I got to drive the second Panamera this year for myself.

And this one does not have a plug-in hybrid powertrain.

The GTS is V8 only.

It's the simpler 4600 pound all wheel drive twin turbo sports sedan.

It's it's interesting.

I drove the four S E hybrid a few months back and I thought that was

such a fantastic everyday car because it's a big luxury sedan.

It can be sporty when you want it to be or you can drive on electric power

through the city and save some money.

Not that Porsche buyers need to worry about saving money,

but I guess you're not going to buy the next one if you just keep spending all

willy-nilly. This is more focused and it lacks the Porsche active ride

that debuted on the plug-in hybrids and on the Taycan that

uses the electric architecture to essentially play a witchcraft with the

suspension and eliminate all body roll.

It'll react to bumps.

It is so impossibly smooth and it's incredible and this doesn't have that.

This has a relatively simple straightforward suspension and it's really good.

That's the thing is like Porsche knows how to do sports sedans so well.

This is so fun to drive and it really does feel

two feet shorter than it actually is and more agile.

And it sounds fantastic and I know that I shouldn't really care that much about it.

But look, if you're buying a expensive six figure sports sedan,

you want it to please all the senses, I assume, or as many as it can.

I really enjoy this and I think

I applaud Porsche for keeping it in the lineup.

Yeah, I haven't driven anything over the base model recently and even that I was

fully enamored with.

So I totally get your saying and it's always felt smaller and lighter than it

is, which certain manufacturers can pull off with some cars, which is always

a great feat because cars are big and heavy.

Yeah, yeah.

And I think that's like the important thing when you're buying it.

Enthusiast vehicle, right?

So many people say that they want to buy

crossovers because oh, they feel big and safe.

And it's like when I'm in something that's remotely fun to drive,

I want it to feel as small as possible.

And the Panamera does that in a way that no other sedan in this class does.

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We have Colm.

What on Colm? You go on vacation.

I go on vacation and then we have one world seems to flip upside down.

Yeah. Well, at least they're back at work, which is nice,

because I feel like we had it was like those two summer breaks that were

together and there was a lot of I would say that my lawn care and house care

and stuff vastly improved over the summer because I didn't have any F1 to watch on

the weekend. So but now I guess we're we're back at it in full swing.

Yeah, yeah, we are.

So I guess we'll start with the big news of this week,

which just relates to me because I was watching the IndyCar finale on Sunday

and then all of a sudden one of the drivers is peacing out.

Yeah, off and gone, which is so it's funny when when they announced this.

OK, he's the test driver.

There were rumors that he might also

skedaddle entirely and go race formula to which everyone was saying that's nonsense.

He's not going to do that.

He's not going to go back down the rung.

But apparently it's true.

And he's going to become an F2 driver next year, which is there's two things.

Like one is that it's it's a lot of people say it's a risky move because F2 is

kind of a you know, a crapshoot sometimes guys who have done amazing and F2 have not

done well in F1 and vice versa.

So like he could be taking a big risk there if he does it and does poorly,

they might not want him, you know, but but I think he really wants to.

He's invested to make the jump.

And so this is how he's going to get a shot.

And I was reading something this morning on I think motorsport.com that

apparently he only needs to finish like eighth in one race to have sufficient

super license points to actually become an F1 driver.

So it's it's almost guaranteed that throughout a course of a season,

he'll he'll get what he needs and become an F1 driver.

Yeah, it's not like he needs to get the eighth and that's to get said.

I mean, you can accumulate over races.

But you know what?

I was talking with some people about this yesterday and some people say like,

oh, it's kind of old already to be trying to jump.

It's 25, but I get it.

Some guys are in at 18, but it makes sense.

We've said this before Cadillac.

Well, we I guess you covered the news last week when I was in here.

But with the team that got it makes total sense.

You got two older experienced guys that have been in multiple teams.

They can tell Cadillac through the season like you're way off base or you're

on the right track. They're not expecting success.

I mean, I think both of us might steal some points here.

Even Perez could.

Sure. But the goal is Cadillac wants their team to be competitive.

But I think it's 28 when they also bring their engine in.

And this is going to be their driver.

Yeah. And probably Botas has gone by then.

Maybe also Perez, because I mean, Botas will be like in his late 30s.

So I like I think he knows he's here for a couple of years to develop the team.

And then he can always say, like, hey, I'm the one that I'll put them on the

map or he can forget about it if the team fails spectacularly.

But yeah, yeah, great point.

And in the meantime, make some great cash and raise some cool cars.

So and if it all works out, he becomes the Cadillac ambassador and you're

like, he loves coming to the States and stuff.

So, you know, it's win-win all around for him.

And this I'm surprised what teams don't do this with their backup drivers

because yeah, they need to be there for most weeks in case something happens.

But F2 is usually there anyway.

Yeah. And I relate it to, well, not all sports, but let's hockey baseball.

If you have a future star, you don't want them sitting on your bench

in the major leagues.

You put them in the minor so they can play every day and develop and get reps.

So like this is perfect.

And then in a couple of years, he's ready to go.

Or like he said, it doesn't work.

And you realize, well, we shouldn't use him anyway.

Yeah. It A, keeps them fresh and B, generally improves their confidence, right?

Like because because they're just, you know, kicking the butt of everybody

in the minors and they can do it.

So so yeah, it looks looks like a Cadillacs continuing to piece things

together, looks very impressive.

Yeah, but what's not impressive is how long F1 races are apparently like.

I don't know if you saw this story.

Yeah, it's tough.

I know the traditionalists will be like, they shouldn't shorten.

And I know NASCAR has tried everything under the sun to make their races

more interesting with sections and I don't want that.

But yeah, if we went to 80 percent, I wouldn't be opposed like you.

I watched all the races and I usually watch them on tape delay

because of our time zone.

We have, you know, most races aren't in our time zone.

So the first, I'd say, third, I'm fully invested and really curious.

But then that middle third, sometimes I'll be fast forward

because not much is happening unless that's where the pit strategy happens.

Then I'll watch the last third.

So maybe tighten it up in the middle.

Yeah, it's true.

Like I'm I can't believe I'm the one saying this, right?

Like again, so this is for people who aren't familiar.

This is a Stefano Domenicali that the head of CEO of F1 basically saying

that they potential that F1 races are too long.

They need to shorten them up that apparently people love the sprint

races and also obviously the advertisers love the sprint races.

I don't think they love them so much because they're short.

They love them because it's more racing and more opportunities to sell.

You know, you get your brand in front of a big audience, right?

So I think that's a big piece of it.

So I think that there's there's sort of competing interests here.

One is it proved that the entertainment value by making it a bit shorter.

But the other is, well, does that mean we can do sprint races at every weekend

and then run the main races for shorter?

But then I guess it's weird that if you make the other races shorter,

then the sprints become less of a sprint, right?

But then who knows?

Maybe we can even have somewhere along the line.

But I like I like the idea there have always been,

especially if you have a one pit stop race, there's generally a good long lull

in the middle of the race where it's kind of like, OK, here's time to go.

Make myself a coffee or, you know, grab another snack or something.

There's things, things calm down in every race for a little while.

So and that's one thing that like Martin Brundle, when he's on the F1

broadcast, always talks about people pitched and moaned about the sprint races.

And there are some critiques about them.

But basically saying it's a lot better than free practice too, right?

Like if in terms of what you're getting to see, like a sprint race is,

I think there was only one sprint race that wasn't exciting.

Every other one has been quite entertaining.

So yeah.

And I mean, Indies also tried many things because that's probably the closest

parallel, like they did that everybody used to do double races to shorter

races on back to back days.

And that's kind of interesting, actually, like that.

Now they're doing with the Firestone tires, they have the the red tire that burns

out real quick, but everyone must use at one point

to try to liven things up and craze more pits.

I, I personally would almost say this sprint races are too long as well,

because they're not quite long enough to need a pit, but they're not short

enough that you just go all out like they should.

It should be a race where everyone's on the soft tire and you're burning

that thing down before the end of the race.

Yeah, well, going to a medium or hard

doesn't isn't worth it because of how short it is.

Yeah, because they have figured out, well, I don't know, I feel like early on

when sprint first came out, there was this thing between using the soft

or using the mediums, the guys, oh, can we stretch the soft?

And then they just decided it's not worth the risk.

And it was also not worth the risk of crashing and bending your car

and messing it up for your mechanics.

So they're like, we'll just do mediums.

And if everybody does it, it evens things out.

So I like the idea of I think even F2 will do like like the double

headers on a weekend, right?

So and sometimes they'll do double headers with a sprint race as well.

So there's like just a ton of F2 racing in one weekend, which I like a lot.

The easy way to make it more interesting and get better pits of strategy,

but is the thing racers won't want and there's no way Pirelli would want

because any tire makers, you make the tires burn out faster,

like they make them worse, but no tire makers wants their tire.

Like, oh, look how fast this war out.

And the racers don't want to have to pit or where you go tire wear.

But yeah, if they wear out, you know, 30% faster on all three levels,

more pits and more strategy.

But oh, it's always the races.

And it seems to never happen anymore, because I think Pirelli's

were around for so long.

They figured this out.

It used to happen that there would be unpredictable tires.

Like it'd be like, oh, the tires, it's just like, yeah, it's 35 Celsius.

It's Silverstone today.

And all the tires are just melting off the cars record fast.

And then that changed all the strategy.

And it's like rain.

Like it just causes chaos and they got to do something to.

So I love when stuff like that happens.

Or if you remember, yeah, like go back 15 years, tires used to blow out

all the damn time there was like issues and it's, yeah, it's interesting.

I think they could they should try something.

I'm not I'm not opposed.

I thought like when I first read this, I was like, oh, I would.

And I know Alonso is there saying that like it's a problem with

the kids and, you know, tiktok generation, et cetera.

I'm like, I get that.

But everyone who's honest with themselves would acknowledge that

there are periods in an F1 race that get a little slow.

I mean, that's probably the problem that we all have so much other things

that can steal our attention back in the day.

It was like you hunkered in for the race

because there was nothing else you could do.

And if you like to watch one, you just sat there.

But yeah, not to get into the tire thing too much, but how you're

saying they figured out when I was with Firestone at Indy, it's crazy.

I had no idea every track gets its own tire.

And every corner of the car has its own tire.

They're all slightly different compounds, different sizes, different depending on the track.

I mean, Oval's obviously you want the rights to take more load,

but even some tracks that have more rights or ones that have more left.

Yeah. So like they're engineering something like 60 different tires.

Then you've got to times that by four because there's the two compounds.

And yeah, it's crazy.

So if Pirelli brings a tire that disintegrates, they could probably just

be like, oh, let's go get our spa tire.

Maybe that'll be better here.

Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

All right. Moving on to our next story.

Oh, yes. Just a little rumor that is, I would say, mostly unsubstantiated

because I see lots on Twitter about this and some Instagram posts, et cetera.

But I can find no actual authoritative source, but it's this rumor

that Verstappen, after we've heard he's raced or tested

at their Nurburgring race car that he could enter the it's the Langstriken

Siri. They have a double header September 14th, 13th, 14th,

which comes between the Italian and Azerbaijan GP, which is like a sort

of people see this as for some reason.

The rumor is that he's going to be racing there in this race or the two

races and that will basically set him up as having done some races

so he can compete in the Nurburgring 24 next year.

So we'll see if that comes true.

Will he race under his France, Herman, you know, name?

Well, I don't know.

But, you know, Ty will tell it's we're talking about whatever guys from

like Colton Hurta moving moving up the ranks to Formula One.

And then we're talking about guys like Max who are like,

let's explore other areas instead of F1.

I think there's only one way this happens.

So you're Ricardo retired today, I guess, or today for us.

By the time he has a couple of days ago, because he's going to be

a Ford ambassador leaving basically Red Bull, but Ford's going to

power Red Bulls next year and how much of a deal was made there.

And if it's a Mustang GT3 car, which Ford's really starting to

push again, that happens to be at the 24 hours of Nurburgring,

I could see that as part of their deal to power the Red Bull

team next year, and it'll probably be a Red Bull branded

car that Max would drive it.

That's the only way I see it happening.

And so, but so the other thing is so that the team,

the car that Max drove before that the one that he tested on is

a Red Bull branded sponsored car that he owns.

It's his own team that like he actually runs a team in addition

to being a driver.

He runs this or co-owns operates this team with these

bunch of other drivers who race there.

So like it is, there's still a, you know, I don't know,

that's why it was funny when those pictures came out and

people were watching this video can see it on the screen,

him driving the Ferrari and it says, you know, that he didn't

run under his own name in the race or in the, in the

practice sessions, and yet the car says for Stappen.com across

that they're like, well, who the hell else is driving?

It's like, well, actually, there's a whole bunch of

other drivers who do drive that car who aren't named for

Stappen.

So it's possible.

I think that there's fun to speculate, be interesting to

see how he does.

I know he's interested in lots of different things.

And I always, I love seeing, I love seeing when it's

like the Daytona 500 and all the, like the NASCAR guys

coming to race something that's super cool.

I love when we see 25 hours of Le Mans.

I think last year there were like 19 former F1 drivers

that raced in Le Mans.

Like that's wild.

And I just enjoy seeing that sort of collaboration.

And I think actually it benefits those other sports

to have the F1 drivers there.

They bring in people who might not otherwise watch.

So yeah, I don't think you get clear to drive

his own team, even though he owns one.

Like I really think it would have to be through

Ford, because like you said, the NASCAR guys that do

the 24 hours a day tone, it's usually they're

Chevy drivers and they're driving the Chevy Corvette

or the Cadillac, it's through the other sponsor

obligations.

So, you know, if you're powering a vehicle and

throwing tons of money at a TME, you might be able

to steal a driver for a weekend.

If it, if it doesn't coincide with a race weekend.

And I'm not sure if that happens or not.

But all right.

Well, we had other stories, but we better move on.

So big race this weekend.

Norris is pretty much relegated to not winning

the championship, which is fine.

Good for anything that can happen.

I know we're supposed to move on, but I still

think that it was an engine issue, despite the

fact that Clarence says it doesn't.

And I feel like Piatri will have an engine issue

before the end of the year.

So I feel like a DNF for Piatri is due to

happen before the season runs out.

And that will help bring Norris back a little

closer.

So that's like your engine was smoking.

And Mercedes has had a lot of engine issues

this year.

So anyway, nobody will use it.

I mean, we said for weeks, like one of them gets

a DNF, that's what's going to decide it.

You're right.

If Piatri gets one, he's right back in it.

But, you know, Piatri wins and McLaren gets

the thing, and then Lando can try next year.

Yeah, yeah, but that team's like, if they

didn't start the rest of the season, maybe

they'd lose.

Like they're so far ahead.

It's ridiculous.

Yeah, they are there.

All right.

Well, thanks for joining us and we will

talk next week with this week's results.

Another room news and news and rumors.

Hey, thanks.

Thanks a lot, Mike.

See you later.

All right.

So before we end this episode of the AutoGuide

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at what we've been doing this week.

So technically it was kind of last week,

but over the weekend I was in Nashville,

as I mentioned earlier, to watch the IndyCar

season finale with Firestone.

There's an article on AutoGuide about sort

of how their tire tech trickles down

and why it matters, more of a personal

family touch as to why it matters than a tech side.

And I'll be doing a full review of a tire

that we got to drive about 300 miles.

So that's pretty good.

Then I came home and yeah, then I

I know I usually don't get to put a

lot of miles on things.

And it was, you know, through these roads

and tail the dragon, the skyway to Tennessee.

And then I came home and jumped in a Bronco

heritage four doors, I mentioned,

which I'm quite enjoying.

But I'll save the rest of my thoughts for later.

Excellent.

I just got to say, it looks fantastic.

I know we drove a heritage two door last year

and I really liked it.

And I saw your vehicle when I went to pick up.

And yeah, it's it's good looking.

I am in the 2026 Genesis Genesis

electrified GV 70.

And it turns out I'm the first to get it in our area.

It just arrived on fleet.

And so I really lucked out on that.

And yeah, I'm also going to save my thoughts

for a later episode, of course.

But I will say that the changes are subtle.

It's one of our favorite EVs in that class.

And so there's been some slight improvements

to the battery.

And now there's a Tesla style next port.

So yeah, I'm looking forward to spending

more time with it on the weekend.

I haven't got to drive it much this week yet.

So just some minor updates, but some important ones, right?

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

All right. So what are you up to next week then?

Oh, next week, next week I will be swapping

into a Maverick hybrid all-wheel drive,

which I'm very much looking forward to,

because that is one of the best

launched vehicles of the year, as far as I'm concerned.

And going elsewhere, I'm traveling for the first time

in six weeks or so to drive the new Nissan Leaf,

which is another one that I think we're all looking

forward to because it is an affordable EV.

And that's what we've all been talking about.

So yeah, really looking forward to it.

What about you, Mike?

Well, I am going nowhere next week,

so I will be here and I'll have some time to drive

a vehicle that I know you're kind of

side you're going to miss and I really want to drive.

And it is the BMW 540i legacy.

Is that legacy? Yeah.

Just yeah, it's not a super legacy.

It's a BMW 540i legacy.

What that means is it's sort of like that M3 we had earlier,

even though it was an official throwback,

but this is a vehicle sort of to mimic

the classic 540i is that we grew up loving.

Yeah, because we don't actually get

a 540i normally anymore, right?

It's the 530 is the gas

and then you move to electric or a plug-in hybrid.

So this is a pure gas

and it's a it's a really subtle color, right?

Yeah, very subtle.

And the crazy thing, too, is it has zero options.

Like once last time I drove a German car that has zero options,

not even the paint like that crazy paint you get as part of the package.

I don't think I've ever driven a German car with zero options.

Yeah, so, I mean,

it's the it's the three liter turbo.

So like the 40 cars usually have.

But yeah, I look forward to want to see if it kind of gives you

that old school vibe, surface just sort of an image.

But I haven't driven a five series period gas or electric in so long.

So I'm looking forward to it.

I'm excited. I can't wait to hear what you think.

Yeah, well, and I can't wait to hear you think about the all wheel drive

hybrid Maverick because that might be a car my Monday,

although I'll probably go for the turbo if I get a Maverick.

I just I just can't resist.

It's just, you know, I know every aspect says

that hybrid's the more sensible one.

But what have I ever bought a car sensibly?

Now, the fact that the 4K tow package is available

on the all wheel drive hybrid, that really like cinches it for me

where I'm just like, if I was in the market, it have to be hybrid.

But I also want the Lobo, which is even less practical.

So yeah, the lowest level is fun.

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