To “overtake” just means one driver passes another driver during the race. Some tracks make it easier to pass because of where you can brake and accelerate.
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chaos at the start
“Chaos at the start” means the race begins in a hectic way, with cars close together and things happening fast. It can lead to lots of position changes early on.
A “qualifying blip” means a short-lived surprise in the qualifying session—like one moment where someone suddenly did really well compared to expectations.
A safety car is when officials slow everyone down behind a pace car because something is unsafe on the track. It can completely change the race because the cars get closer together again.
A penalty means the race officials punished a driver for breaking a rule. It can cost positions or time, which is why the speaker says it changed the sprint result.
“Outqualified” means one driver was faster in qualifying and will usually start the race ahead of the other driver. It’s a big deal in F1 because starting position can strongly affect race results.
In F1, the driver talks to their team over the radio during the race. The team can give guidance when something goes wrong, helping the driver stay calm and make better decisions.
Term
sprint quality poll
This sounds like a reference to winning the sprint session’s pole position. On sprint weekends, that can help you start the race in a better spot and often signals strong form.
Sometimes drivers get penalized after the race. A “five-second deduction” means extra time is added to their result, which can drop them down the order.
Overdrive is when a driver pushes harder than they can manage comfortably. Instead of driving smoothly, they start forcing it, which can make the car harder to control and hurt performance.
Concept
overthink everything
Overthinking is when you start worrying about every decision instead of just driving. In racing, that can make you react slower or make more mistakes.
This phrase means the driver isn’t feeling the car the way they normally would. When that happens, the driver’s inputs don’t line up well with what the car is doing, so driving becomes less consistent.
People use “generational talent” to mean a driver is unusually good—like they don’t come along very often. In F1, it’s basically hype that they’ll be great sooner than most.
A “ruleset” is the rulebook for that period—what teams are allowed to build and how racing works. If someone joins near the end of that rulebook, the cars are already developed around those rules.
A “midseason form blip” is when someone’s performance dips for a while in the middle of the year. The speaker is saying he later bounced back from that rough patch.
Here “pressure” means the stress of expectations—like having to prove yourself quickly. The point is that he stayed composed instead of getting thrown off.
“Setbacks” are adverse events that hurt a driver’s progress—such as poor results, strategy mistakes, mechanical issues, or on-track incidents. The speaker highlights Antonelli’s ability to recover after these moments.
Sprint qualifying is a shorter race held on a race weekend that helps decide where everyone starts for the main race. Because it can also give points, doing well can really matter for the championship.
Mercedes here means the Formula 1 racing team. They make and run the race cars, and the hosts are saying their car wasn’t strong enough to win the championship at that moment.
They’re talking about weather changes—sometimes the track is wet and sometimes it’s dry. That changes how much grip the tires have, so the driver and team have to adjust quickly.
“Pace” just means how fast the car is. If teams are close on pace, they can race each other instead of one team being clearly quicker.
Concept
creative strategy decisions
In racing, strategy is about things like when to pit and what tires to run. “Creative” strategy means the team tried a less obvious plan to try to win.
Concept
race management issues
Race management is how you handle the race while it’s happening—like tire timing and dealing with other cars. If there are “issues,” it means the team didn’t execute well and it can cost the win.
A “spin” is when a race car starts rotating and points the wrong way. The driver may be able to correct it and get back under control before losing too much time.
Term
pirouette
A “pirouette” is a fancy way of describing a car that’s rotating awkwardly on the track. The point here is that it looked bad, but the driver still recovered.
A pit stop is when an F1 car pulls into the pits during the race to change tires (and sometimes make strategy changes). The hosts are wondering if McLaren’s timing for those stops could have helped them more.
An undercut is when a driver pits earlier than another car to get fresh tires sooner. The goal is to drive faster right after the stop so you come out ahead when the other car pits later.
A sprint weekend is a special F1 race format with extra sessions before the main race. Teams get chances to tweak the car between sessions, so the fastest team can change from one part of the weekend to the next.
The sprint race is a shorter race held during an F1 sprint weekend. It happens after sprint qualifying and before the main qualifying, and it can show which teams are quickest over that shorter distance.
A wind tunnel is like a giant indoor fan test. Teams use it to see how air flows around the car, so they can design the body and wings to make it stick better to the road. Better wind-tunnel testing can mean upgrades that actually work on race day.
Toyota is mentioned because it owns a wind-tunnel facility that some smaller teams used. The host is using this to explain how having your own testing resources can help a team improve faster.
Aston Martin is one of the Formula 1 teams. Here, they’re being criticized for upgrades that don’t seem to deliver the expected improvement after being put on the race car.
Adrian Newey is a famous F1 engineer. The point being made is that even if a team designs an upgrade, it doesn’t always translate into real speed once it’s installed on the car.
In F1, teams bring new parts to make the car faster. Sometimes those new parts don’t deliver the expected improvement once they’re actually on the car, even if they seemed good during testing.
McLaren is an F1 team. The hosts are saying McLaren tends to make upgrades actually work on the race car, which helps them get faster.
Brand
Oscar
Oscar Piastri is another McLaren driver. The hosts mention his reaction alongside Lando’s to talk about whether the drivers feel the team could have achieved more.
Lando Norris is a driver in Formula 1. The hosts are pointing out that his comments show he believes the team could have done better and should be aiming for wins.
Pierre Gasly is an F1 driver. The hosts bring up an earlier interview to show that top drivers often feel disappointed when they think they had the chance to do better.
Hungary is mentioned as a destination for a Formula One race, referring to the Hungarian Grand Prix held at the Hungaroring circuit. It’s a common fan travel pick because it’s a full Grand Prix weekend experience.
Monza is a legendary race track in Italy that hosts Formula One. People love it because it’s fast and has a big history in racing.
Topic
Madrid's Grand Prix
The “Madrid's Grand Prix” is a Formula One race in Madrid that’s being treated as a first-time event. The speaker is saying it’ll be a different experience than the usual races.
The Dodge Challenger is a performance car made by Dodge. It’s known for having a big engine and strong acceleration, and it’s designed to feel fast even when you’re just driving normally.
Concept
fallen behind
“Fallen behind” means a team isn’t performing as well as the others anymore. In F1, that usually happens when rivals improve their cars faster.
In Formula 1, teams bring updates to their race cars during the year. The host is saying Ferrari may not be improving the car fast enough compared with other teams, so they could fall behind.
A “1-2” means the same team took the top two spots in a race—first and second. The host is saying Ferrari did well at the start, but the car didn’t keep getting better afterward.
Concept
Grand Prix start / turn one strategy
“Turn one” is the first big corner right after the race starts. The host is saying Ferrari’s early-race advantage used to help them stay near the front right away, but other teams are learning to do the same.
Qualifying sets where cars start on the grid. Starting near the back (like 28th and 29th) is usually a big disadvantage, so the host is saying Ferrari used to overcome that with a strong start.
Driver error means the problem happened because of something the driver did, not because the car broke. It’s usually things like making a mistake on track.
Cutting corners is when a driver takes a shortcut instead of following the track properly. It can be unfair because it may make the lap faster by covering less distance.
The pit lane is the area beside the track where teams work on the car during the race. The discussion here is saying you can’t use the pit lane as an excuse to break the track rules.
Re-entering the track is when a driver gets back onto the racing surface after going off it. If they do it where other cars aren’t expecting them, it can cause crashes.
Multiple breaches means the driver broke the rules more than once. If it happens repeatedly, officials usually treat it more seriously than a one-time mistake.
In modern Formula One, “battery” refers to the energy stored and managed by the hybrid power system. Teams decide when to use that stored energy for acceleration, and using too much too early can hurt performance later.
“Pitted” means the car came into the pits to change tires and reset the race strategy. When you do it matters a lot because it can change where you are on track afterward.
A restart is when the race starts moving again after a pause (like a safety car). Everyone is packed together, so getting off the line and staying in control is really important.
Overtaking means passing another car while you’re racing. It’s not just “go faster”—you have to pick the right spot and timing so you can get past without spinning or losing control.
Term
settings every lap
That phrase means the driver is tweaking how the car behaves while the race is going on. Teams try to adjust things to match grip and tire wear as the track conditions change.
Term
timing the factory
This is about using timing information to see how the team is doing compared to what they expected. If the numbers don’t improve, it suggests the car isn’t getting faster.
“Best of the rest” is a motorsport phrase meaning the top-performing team outside the very front group (often outside the top few teams). In this segment, it’s used to say Alpine were the strongest team behind the top four.
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Haspikes
“Haspikes” sounds like it might be a misheard team name. The speaker is comparing it to Williams and saying Alpine did better than that team this weekend.
The “midfield pack” is the cluster of teams that are consistently competing for positions between the front-runners and the backmarkers. The hosts say Alpine is establishing itself at the top of that midfield group.
“Double points” means a race where the winner and top finishers get twice as many points as usual. That can quickly change the championship race for teams.
Concept
Q1
In F1 qualifying, Q1 is the first part. If you’re not fast enough there, you don’t get to continue to the next parts.
“Reliability problems” means the car isn’t staying healthy through the weekend—something is breaking or not working right. The host suggests it’s common when a team is using a new engine supplier.
An “engine supplier” is the company that provides the engine for the race car. New engines can take time to sort out, so early reliability problems aren’t unusual.
They’re talking about the track itself—how rough and dusty it is. That kind of surface can make it harder for race cars to stick to the road and stay predictable.
The checkered flag is what tells everyone the race is over. The hosts are saying it’s better to decide penalties before that moment, so the result isn’t confusing.
In-car video evidence is footage recorded from a driver’s onboard camera. It’s used in F1 investigations because it can show what the driver saw and how the car behaved during an incident.
The FIA is the organization that runs and regulates Formula 1. Here, they’re being mentioned as the authority behind how incidents get investigated and penalized.
Regulations are the rules that tell teams what they’re allowed to do with the car and how they can use its systems. When the rules change, it can change how fast the cars feel and how teams plan their race weekend.
Energy harvest is how the car recovers energy while driving, like when you slow down. That saved energy can then be used later to help the car go faster.
Concept
experiment that comes and goes
They’re saying the current approach might be tested for a while, then changed again. F1 sometimes tries new rules to see what works before keeping them long-term.
“Harvesting” in F1 is shorthand for energy recovery—capturing energy that would otherwise be wasted (most notably during braking). That recovered energy is then stored and used later to improve performance.
When the track is wet, the tires don’t grip as well, so the car can slide more easily. Drivers have to be smoother with braking and steering to stay in control.
Miami and Montreal are two different Formula 1 venues with distinct layouts and demands on the car. Even if a team struggles at one, it doesn’t necessarily predict how they’ll perform at the other because setup needs can vary a lot.
A “street-ish” track is more like city driving than a purpose-built race track. It often has tighter turns and bumpier surfaces, so the car and tires can behave differently.
Racing Bulls is a Formula 1 team. The comment means that team struggled at the Miami race, but that doesn’t guarantee the same result at another track.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to The Fast and the Curious.
We finally, after what felt like forever, had a Formula One race.
Formula One was back after that five-week break.
What a race it was in Miami as well.
Absolute chaos, particularly at the start.
We'll talk about it all.
I'm Betty Glover.
As always, Christian Hughill is here.
We're going to debrief everything.
We're going to answer your questions.
And Christian, we were both in Miami working, weren't we?
We were.
We're now finally home.
How did you find it?
What was your favourite bit?
Well, we should at first point out that if my performance is lagging in this episode
compared to your good self, effectively you've bought an upgrade and I haven't.
Because we're recording this Tuesday at one o'clock.
I landed Tuesday at eight o'clock on an overnight flight.
But you landed the day.
You flew back straight after the race.
I had to wait for my flight.
And you've just said to me, and I've never been so jealous,
because I've done the whole thing of being on an overnight flight, barely sleeping.
And then Betty's just said to me, I had 11 hours sleep last night,
and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so jealous.
I sound very, I sound quite, I think I sound quite deep, don't I?
Hello. You do sound quite deep.
But yeah, I jumped straight on the plane pretty, pretty well.
It would have been straight after the race had the race not been moved forward.
But because the race was moved forward by three hours,
it actually worked out perfectly for me.
I don't want to rub it into you, Christian.
No, you had the better flight plan, definitely.
Yeah, I had to wait.
Strategy was on.
Strategy was good for me.
Loiter around Miami in the pouring rain as well.
So there'll be people going, oh, you have to wait for your flight in Miami.
Yeah, it was awful weather.
But Betty, to answer your question,
I've always loved the Miami Grand Prix.
I really recommend it as somewhere for people to go and watch a race
because I think the whole setup around the stadium is really cool.
I think there's loads of things for fans to do.
I just think it's a really cool atmosphere.
If you're a sports fan, the prospect of the F1 race
happening on this very famous NFL ground and around there is really cool.
So it's it's long been one of my favourite races to go to.
And that was your first experience, wasn't it?
So did you like it as much as I do?
My first experience, yeah, yeah, I loved it.
Do you know what? I really loved it.
I thought it was really cool.
I know not everyone gets to see the paddock, but the paddock was was amazing.
I love how it was like sort of split in half.
So you had like the actual paddock, but then you also had the stadium bit.
I thought that was great.
I thought the American fans were really good.
They were really loud.
And there was like a, you know, sometimes you you have like it's very clear.
Everyone loves Lewis Hamilton, for example.
And all you see is Lewis Hamilton fans everywhere.
Really felt in the grandstands that it was like a complete mixture of loads
of different fans. There was loads of Franco Colopinto fans.
I don't know.
I just thought the atmosphere as a whole was really good.
Marseille Tacos.
I had some excellent Tacos and I had some excellent mango spiced margaritas.
So from that side of things as well, it was good.
I'm not a margarita person, but I wish you well.
With your margarita.
Yeah, I'm glad you had such a good time.
And most importantly, we got a really good race.
And Miami got criticism in its first couple of years for not producing great racing.
But actually, we've had some absolutely brilliant races in the last couple of seasons.
And and that was another one that it's proved that it's a track where you can
overtake, obviously overtaking is easy this year anyway.
Chaos at the start, as you said in the intro and a real battle for the win.
I just think we didn't know who was going to win the race throughout most of it.
And any race where you think, actually, there's quite a few people who can win this
is a good one for me. So I really enjoyed the Grand Prix.
Yeah, it was it was really good.
I think it was by far the best Grand Prix that we've had of the season.
I would say I thought it was really exciting.
Let's start with Kimmy Antonelli, shall we?
Because for me, this felt like a huge moment for him when it comes to
sort of solidifying his title credentials.
Because before that, I think people were still a bit like,
still don't know, like he's got a bit lucky in some of the races.
But this one he just really delivered.
What do you think?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Because there was those elements of good fortune in China and Japan,
whether it was a qualifying blip for George,
whether it was a fortuitous safety car.
But this is a weekend where start to finish.
Kimmy Antonelli was the informed Mercedes driver.
But there's also two elements to this.
There's being the informed Mercedes driver and beating your vastly more experienced
teammate who's got loads of years within the team who's won races.
That's one thing, but he didn't just beat George, he thrashed him.
He absolutely destroyed him.
He would have beaten him in the sprint had he not got the penalty.
He outqualified, outraced and George wasn't second or third.
George wasn't even on the podium.
So he's this much younger driver in this car that we know is competitive
with George coming out and winning the Australian Grand Prix first race
this season and everyone thinking, you know, think back to me and Karun Chandoch
predicting George is going to be champion at the back end of last season
on our season debrief podcast, everyone's going, oh, this is going to be a procession.
And Kimmy's not just beating George, but laid down such a marker.
And if you're George Russell, we'll come back to George, we'll focus more on Kimmy.
But if you're George Russell, you're going home thinking,
I'm not just concerned about being beaten.
I'm concerned about how much I was beaten there.
Kimmy was just extraordinary and just as started to show a maturity as well,
the way he's coming back from difficulties.
If something goes wrong, he's not panicking.
There's the odd moment where Bono has to calm him down on the radio.
What a person to be able to calm you down on the radio.
If you need a good team around you to be world champion,
you literally couldn't wish for anyone better than Bono.
So that is a major tick in the Kimmy Antonelli box.
But his maturity just seems to have increased as well as his sheer speed.
It was, it's the sort of weekend.
And I said this last year in Miami, when Kimmy got sprint quality poll,
that the documentaries, if this kid is truly great, like everybody's predicted,
he will be, the documentaries are going to, that we look at at the end of his career.
We'll start to pick up these Miami moments.
The sprint quality poll last year, where it was his first glimpse of, wow,
he can be quick when he's quick.
And then this weekend was another level on top of that of, wow, when he dialed it in,
he can be unbeatable because no one was going to beat Kimmy this weekend.
So I'm incredibly impressed with Kimmy Antonelli.
He did, he, I thought he'd be a close match for George this weekend.
I thought he might beat George this weekend.
I didn't expect by that level.
That was awesome for Antonelli.
Yeah. And also, if you look at the sprint, he made a couple of mistakes in the sprint, didn't he?
And he got that five second deduction.
So then to like come back from that.
That's exactly what I mean.
That performance on pre, really impressive.
That's why I say they're coming back from stuff.
Because it's easy when you're a rookie for moments like that to derail a weekend
for you to get into your head, for you to get crossed with yourself,
for you to start to overdrive and by overdriving,
we mean when it doesn't come naturally to you, start to overthink everything
and you're just not at one with the car.
You're out of your front.
Which is what Shal did in his last lap.
Really, it was, yeah, by his own admission as well after the race.
So no, Kimmy was amazingly impressive this weekend.
And, you know, he was hyped up so much when he came into Formula One
that the term generational talent has become this buzzword around him.
And then I think some people who are maybe a little newer to Formula One
therefore expected him to come in and immediately just be like insane.
But he was coming in at the end of a ruleset
when drivers were very much used to the cars.
He was coming into a massive team, which not many rookies do.
But yet he still showed those moments.
And I was so impressed with the way he recovered at the end of the season
from his midseason form blip.
We spoke on the podcast at the way Tota Wolf
almost stopped the arm around the shoulder approach.
And at one point last season, I said, no, we need more from Kimmy.
And he responded to that.
He didn't let the pressure get to him.
He was like, OK, my boss is telling me I need more now.
I'll give more.
And then I've always become my catchphrase, the Super Mario levelling up.
But he's not just levelled up over the winter.
He's he's super sized over the winter.
He's just become a better driver still.
And I think probably super sized again during the the four week
however long it was gap that we had.
He yeah, the the recovering from setbacks is so impressive.
I just think it was a brilliant, brilliant weekend for Kimmy Antonelli.
Now, we should remember it's a track he clearly likes, as I say,
at that sprint qualifying result last year.
And it's a track that George probably is one of, if not his weakest on the circuit.
But still, that's a massive moment.
That is.
Yeah, I think it will be pivotal, won't it?
When we when we look at that title battle, I think this is a pivotal
pivotal moment for Kimmy Antonelli.
And he's got that momentum now, hasn't he?
Three Grand Prix wins in a row.
Three polls converted to Grand Prix wins in a row.
Just incredible, isn't it?
And that momentum is something that George Russell desperately needs
because his momentum is going in the complete opposite direction, isn't it?
Hmm.
What do you think about George?
Because it's really interesting, because obviously he said that's a track
that he really doesn't like and doesn't get on with.
But still, to be that far off of your teammate is a bit weird.
That's the key point for me.
It's not necessarily being beaten by Kimmy.
It's a track you know, isn't your strong suit.
It's how much he was beaten by.
And I just think, bear in mind.
You've come into Mercedes.
Everybody's expecting you to fight your teammate for the title.
And what happens?
Mercedes realised they've got a car that isn't capable of fighting for the title.
So he has to be so patient.
He waits, he stacks up so well against Lewis Hamilton.
And then everybody gets wind with these new rule changes.
Ah, Mercedes are going to be quick.
And everybody goes, it's George Russell's, it's George Russell's.
Because Kimmy will be able to do it in the future, but not yet.
Surely not yet.
And George is going into the season going, this is mine.
And he goes into the Australian Grand Prix and he wins the race.
And then it starts to go wrong, really, from China qualifying
and then the safety car in Japan.
And if you're George Russell, we say, Betty, when we cover football,
you so often hear the importance of winning before an international break
or winning before an FA Cup break.
When if there's a break in the momentum of the season,
you want to go into that looking strong.
So it was the worst possible point for a break for George
because he'll want to get back in the car and take back control of the championship.
And I just noticed it's little things like in the Miami Grand Prix paddock,
F1 had taken the unusual step just for decoration purposes.
There was no more to it than that of putting the standings with the drivers
on a big poster in the paddock.
And again, if you're George Russell, you're looking at little things like that
and going, we need to change that, you know,
he's coming into this Miami weekend going, I want to get back on track.
Not only did he not get back on track, he veered way off it, you know,
to be that far off.
So it's a big test for George now to not only get back in front of Kimmy,
but reduce that big, big gap.
One thing that's very much in his favor for this,
we're going from what is possibly his weakest circuit on the calendar in Miami
by his own admission to what I think could be his strongest.
He's had some awesome results in Canada in recent years,
a race win, another one where he could have easily won,
mastered wet, dry conditions on that circuit.
So actually, if you're George Russell,
you probably couldn't wish for a better next race.
But he needs to sort it out and fast
or so the momentum will keep slipping away.
I know everyone said like, oh, when I was doing F1 TV,
Juan Pablo Montoya, Jolian Palmer, et cetera,
were all saying, yes, but Canada is George Russell's best track.
And therefore, you know, he's good, he can go there
and know that that's his best track.
I just think the pressure on him now to deliver a result in Canada is insane.
Don't you think?
Like, you know, he knows now that he needs a win in Canada.
He needs to stop this Kimmy Antonelli rot, doesn't he?
Otherwise, he's just falling back and back
and it's building and it's building
and it's all people are talking about.
Everyone's going, well, I wonder how George Russell is feeling.
George looks down today, walking around the paddock.
Like, he needs to stop it.
So I just think the pressure going into Canada is going to be ridiculous for him.
I can't argue with any of what you've just said.
You're absolutely right.
The caveat had put to it all.
And I'm going to bring in a question from one of our listeners on this.
Maddie message is saying, Kimmy's got to be Mercedes number one driver now, surely.
The caveat to Maddie, the caveat to you there, Betty,
is remember how long this season is.
I know.
And remember at one point last year,
it seemed inconceivable that Lando Norris
could turn it round up against Oscar Piaz-Tree.
It looked like all the momentum was with Piaz-Tree.
And then Piaz-Tree just had that awful weekend
where he went in the wall a couple of times.
I think it was Baku, wasn't it?
There was then mistakes in Brazil, you know.
And it flipped completely.
It's such a long season.
And within that season, form ebbs and flows.
And it's so easy for us after two or three grand prises
of one storyline running through for us to think that will be the case all season.
And recent years have taught us that that isn't always the case.
Yes, it's a shorter season than it would have been at 22 races.
But still, it's a long one. 22, though.
Yes, exactly.
And it only takes one mistake from Kimmy,
and he will make more mistakes.
He's young. He will have off weekends.
I guarantee it.
And that 20-point gap can go down to a 12-point gap on all of a sudden.
So I don't think Mercedes are thinking Kimmy's our number one driver.
I think I've loved the way Toto has been so headteacher like and stern
when asked, inevitably asked about this in the media,
like, what are you going to do about these guys battling?
And he's sort of going, if they collide with each other,
I will string them up by their privates
and have them in front of the paddock.
OK, that's not his exact words, but he's been really strict in going,
they cannot and will not do that.
They represent thousands of people who work for that company.
That is off the table.
Providing they tick that box and don't hit each other.
The rest is carry on for a bit.
And they're not going to be thinking about number one driver status
until way into the second half of the season.
Oh, no, definitely not.
And I totally agree with you, by the way,
that it is such a long season that anything can happen.
It goes on until nearly Christmas.
But in the same Christmas, I know.
But in the same breath, you have also got to think, OK,
so at the moment, Mercedes have the advantage
and they've clearly got the best car, but it is not going to be long.
I mean, look at the strides McLaren took in those five weeks off.
McLaren are up there now, surely.
So it's not long and, you know, Ferrari look good.
They brought so many upgrades.
It could easily happen that Mercedes aren't going to be winning
all of these remaining races.
And if you're George, you're thinking, oh, my God, I haven't capitalised on
when Mercedes did have the best car, do you know what I mean?
It's interesting, it's exciting.
It works both ways because, let's be honest,
McLaren won races last year when, if other teams had been closer to them
on pace, there, shall we say, some creative strategy decisions
and some creative race management issues, they would have lost the race.
You're absolutely right.
Another big talking point for me from the Miami Grand Prix,
you're always going, wait till qualifying, wait till the race.
But I, you know, watched every second of free practice
and I'm sat there thinking, just feels close, you know,
the way it ebbed and flowed across the session.
Early on in the session, the Ferraris look good.
Then McLaren came into it.
Then Mercedes came into it.
And as the teams were running through their programs,
they were really all knocking in similar lap times,
and you're thinking, oh, this does look a little bit close, you know,
it really does.
So your rights for that reason, if you're going to win a title,
if the door is even a jar for you to win a race,
you need to push that door open, put a door stop in it,
keep it open and go right through it.
You can't afford to let it slide because, you know,
I tell you who's shown that he can win races this weekend is Max.
You know, Max cannot be counted out.
He had an unbelievably rare mistake on the opening lap.
But Red Bull have clearly bought upgrades to the point that
a Red Bull in Max's hands can win races.
McLaren won the sprint.
They will undoubtedly win Grand Prix this year.
Ferrari, I have question marks over which will come to.
But yeah, you absolutely right, Betty, take those chances when they come.
Could I just say, seeing as he just brought Max up
and that mistake at the beginning and his sort of spin, he's like pirouette.
It made me laugh so much because he obviously did that pirouetted,
saved it and everyone was like, oh, my God, he's amazing.
Like this skill to say that.
And Martin Brundle was like, he's a genius.
And, you know, it just makes me laugh because you look at it and you're like,
well, he did make a mistake.
I know he saved it and that was amazing.
But it's just it just funny how everyone's reaction is
because I think everyone has so much respect for Max as a driver
and he is so good.
Can I hear squeaking?
Yeah, that's Derek playing with his toy in the other side of the room.
I'd like to apologise for the squeaking.
Derek, can you keep that down?
We're trying to podcast.
But yeah, it just made me laugh that like everyone's reaction was like,
oh, he's a genius.
But I mean, he made a mistake.
Well, no, but but Jolyne Palmer pointed this out in commentary, too.
That he made he's made a mistake and that's rare.
But actually, from a driving perspective,
that's why you have drivers in the commentary box to give you that that
insight, the way he did gather it, the way you collect it,
the way your brain switches to OK, mistakes happened.
I need to save this now.
It's instinctive.
It is incredible.
But yeah, yeah, your first point, Betty, was was was bang on.
You really do need to take those opportunities when you get them.
And who knows?
Mercedes have had this advantage at the start of the season.
We might, you know, by the time we get to mid season,
even by the time we're at Silverstone, we might be thinking,
oh, yeah, the days of the Mercedes hard advantage.
Looks quite long ago in the distance now.
So absolutely.
The thing I would say is I would say in calendar,
it's less important for George to win the race.
I just think, and there's your dog now.
Hello, welcome to dogs.
Interrupt podcast.
Jesus, and I would I would say that it's important for George.
Derek's doing it again, is I'm going to have to take the toy off, Derek.
Just just fill a minute.
Just fill because I've only just got home, so I don't want to put in his pen.
So we can keep the squeaking.
It's fine. It just made me laugh because it's very cute.
He's having a lovely time with his highling cow.
David, don't take it away from him.
It's fine.
Much be annoying for people to listen to.
It's a shambles, this podcast, isn't it?
It is a shambles.
We used to have a studio at one point.
Now we've got Dr. Barking in the background anyway.
No, what was the point?
Who was I talking about?
Oh, George, George, I actually think just to get yourself back on track,
say Canada, it just appears that McLaren are quicker, right?
Say Canada, it's just a case of, oh, right, McLaren are just quicker here.
As long as George beats Kimmy, I think he'll leave Canada thinking, OK,
that's that's quite good.
The one thing that can't happen.
I don't think George necessarily needs to win the race
to get his season back on track,
but another weekend of him being battered by Kimmy.
And you're thinking, oh, this is this is tricky.
Well, you brought up the highling cow.
I'm going to take the highling cow off him.
I'm going to take the highling cow.
There's other toys you can have that don't make a noise.
Hang on.
The heart just loves the highling cow.
Play with that one.
That's less squeaky.
That's less squeaky.
Got the highling cow, got the goods.
Let's crack on.
Yeah, it's got a teddy bear now.
So let's talk about McLaren seeing it,
seeing as you've just mentioned them.
It feels like they have definitely turned it on.
It feels like they've turned up to this season now
because they had a really difficult start, didn't they?
Do you think that that race was theirs for the taking?
Because Lando definitely thought so, didn't he?
Yes, he did.
I'm not sure I agree.
I tend to think Kimmy and the Mercedes had a bit too much for them.
Do you? What do you think?
I sort of feel like if McLaren had done things a little bit differently,
what would you what would you have wanted them to do?
This is what I and other people
might have a better understanding of this than me.
I couldn't quite work out.
I don't think, for example, if they'd adjusted their pit stops a little bit.
Do you know that would have made a difference?
No, I don't see where enough of a difference would have come to catch Antonelli.
Do you mind missing something?
I just it felt like I can imagine if you were Lando,
you'd be so frustrated with just how easy the undercut was.
Yeah, true.
I think it's difficult.
I certainly think that the thing is with sprint weekends, right?
For those new to Formula One is after you've had your sprint qualifying
and then the sprint race, Park Fermi reopens.
So before you go from sprint race to main race qualifying to Grand Prix qualifying,
you can make adjustments to your car.
And sometimes, therefore, you see teams who've had a slight,
you know, unexpectedly bad session.
Like I don't think anybody expected McLaren to be comfortably quickest
in the or McLaren and Lando's hands to be comfortably quickest in the sprint
like they were. It looked to me like Mercedes probably made some adjustments
and from qualifying for the main race and then the Grand Prix.
They looked better.
So I think that, yes, the undercut was a bit too easy,
but I suspect Mercedes in Kimmy's hands just had a bit too much pace
for the McLaren to do anything about it.
But take that to one side.
Go with we said this with Oscar in
Japan, that isn't it good?
What Derek's done now?
I took the Highland Cow off him and put it onto the bed.
He's just jumped onto the bed, took the Highland Cow off the bed.
Well, that was your fault, really taking it down.
Yeah. What what Oscar said in Japan was look, we're in a good place here
because we're disappointed we've not won the race.
And now you've got the flip side to that with Lando here in in Miami
saying, actually, I'm disappointed I've not won the race.
That's good. Considering they looked way off it in Australia
and actually in China, that's good.
Start in China and that if you're new to Formula One doesn't help at all.
It really doesn't help.
If you're going to win the race, you should at least look to start it
in my experience of Formula One racing.
But the thing with McLaren is it doesn't surprise me at all.
Regular listeners to this puddle have heard me even in Australia,
saying, I think McLaren will win races this season.
The reason they've done what they've done in Formula One this year
is the turning point was opening that wind tunnel that was theirs.
They used to use the one that Toyota own, that several of the smaller teams use.
Now they've they've got their own.
That makes a significant, significant difference.
They can develop their own upgrades and what they've clearly got
is good correlation between the wind tunnel and on track performance.
They know that when they bring upgrades, they tend to work.
Ferrari have had the opposite problem in recent years.
They just upgrades don't tend to have an impact.
Aston Martin have had the same problem.
Adrian Newey has highlighted it's a big thing that upgrades just don't then work
when they put them on the car. McLaren do and it's for that reason
why I think by the end of the season, McLaren will be quicker
or as quick as Mercedes. In fact, they're nearly already there.
McLaren's strength at bringing upgrades just shows you how strong they are.
That that is their strength. It doesn't surprise me at all.
I do agree. And also, just just on Lando and Oscar's reactions,
I really liked that Lando thought we should have won that race
because that's a champion talking like I think there were times last season
where his opinion was like, yeah, OK, we'll we'll take P2 or whatever.
And I really liked that he was like, we should have won that.
And so regardless of whether or not we agree, whether they're good or not,
I think that's really good that land that was Lando's point.
Like he was like, we didn't win the big the big bit of silverware this weekend.
I'm gutted about it.
I think it reminds me of your interview.
You did an F1 TV with Gasly where he said to you, I'm gutted.
And we were like, oh, Alpine have got points and I know we're capable of more.
I agree. I'm always impressed when a driver from the outside of it
has had a good weekend and they're saying, no, I want more.
And it shows you how confident McLaren are.
I spoke to a couple of people at McLaren at the weekend.
And again, there was an air of confidence about the team
that they'd made a step forward.
A few people were saying to me, yeah,
but Mercedes are bringing more upgrades for Canada.
And that's true. They are.
Toto made a joke that they didn't realise that
it was a shutdown, which, of course, was a joke.
They obviously did.
They're just bringing upgrades a bit later.
But also, I've heard other teams are bringing more upgrades as well.
So I don't think it'll just be a case of it's only Mercedes
bringing upgrades for Canada.
We've got another little bit of a gap here.
So I think the two big headlines from the weekend
are Antonelli is on fire and it is closer at the top.
Anybody who was hoping that it wouldn't be Mercedes whitewash,
Mercedes domination, I think it's worked well for you this weekend
because I just feel like it's closer all around.
Certainly the people that have made the steps forward for me
are Red Bull in Max's hands.
That looks a vast improvement.
He just seems so much happier this weekend.
And McLaren, Lando was the better McLaren driver this weekend,
but we know how it ebbs and flows between those two.
I'm sure there'll be weekends where Oscar's the better driver.
We know how closely matched those two are.
I'll tell you what we should do.
Why don't we go for a break
and then I'll talk to you about my Ferrari concerns.
Oh, good idea. Let's do it.
Betty Glover, while the Miami Grand Prix is very exciting
and we'll get back to rounding it up in a second,
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There literally is, isn't it?
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We are currently in the midst of debriefing Miami.
Now, Christian...
Betty.
You've got big concerns regarding Ferrari, haven't you?
I wouldn't say big concerns.
OK, not big concerns.
They are the... Some concerns.
They are the team that worried me a little bit,
because as much as everybody who works in Formula One
gets accused of favoritism and bias,
I'd like to re-emphasize, for the purposes of the tape,
I don't care who wins the championship.
I just want it to be close.
So I do want to see Ferrari win races right up there.
I want to see all the big boys up there,
because for me, that's what makes a competitive championship.
And before the break, we said,
a bit of a dodgy weekend for Isaac,
but he'll bounce back.
He still had a very strong start to his Red Bull career.
He still got into Q3, no alarm-beltering in for Isaac,
but Red Bull in Max's hands much better.
McLaren much better.
But we started this season saying,
Ferrari look like the challengers.
Charles and Lewis will win races.
And then this weekend, it just didn't feel that way.
We've had this break.
We've all gone, oh, it's a good opportunity
for teams to bring upgrades, getting the wind tunnel.
It was a short winter, now they've got this opportunity.
And as I say, it looks like McLaren and Red Bull
took full advantage of that.
Ferrari just seem stagnant to me.
They seem sort of, and in being stagnant,
they've therefore fallen behind,
because there's those obvious improvements
from those other teams.
Lewis just didn't look near Charles' pace at all this weekend.
He wasn't far off, but Lewis didn't look like
he was going to be the better Ferrari driver at any point.
Charles looked okay, but then had a scrappy race,
where I think he was pushing too hard.
You said this at the start, and then he got that penalty.
And it was sort of like, oh, but Ferrari,
I thought you were going to be the ones to challenge Mercedes,
and now all of a sudden it doesn't look like it.
And I go back to my point before the break,
and I said this in one of our really early season episodes,
and you laughed at me when I said,
Ferrari need to prove to me
that they could upgrade throughout the season.
And you laughed at me going, I'll prove to you,
because that's what they're doing.
They've got a picture of me and Maradella going,
prove to Christian Hewgill, and we had to laugh.
Lolles were had on this humorous take on the F1 world.
But the point I was making was a serious one,
that everyone in the F1 world says,
well, Ferrari, they haven't been able to improve everything.
I mean, go back to 2022 when they had a 1-2
in the first race of the season in Bahrain,
but just didn't improve the car, and Red Bull got better.
They just don't seem to be able to improve the car,
and I'm already worried that that's showing to be the case.
So we talk about the pressure on George in Canada,
there's pressure on Ferrari in Canada,
because also they're starting to lose their gimmick.
Their gimmick was, oh, they've got Mario Kart mushrooms
at the start of Grand Prix,
so it doesn't matter if they qualify 28th and 29th,
they get off to a good start,
they can still be in the lead in turn one,
but other teams are catching them up with that as well.
So I just don't want another season
where we have to deal with sad Ferrari drivers,
because I'm not sure my heart can take it,
and it won't be too long before they start,
the Italian media start banging on Fred Versailles' door
and saying how under pressure he is if this carries on.
So look, it's not there yet,
there'll be people in the comments saying,
oh, are you going way too far?
But I'm just, it was just such a meh weekend for Ferrari,
and when everyone else at the front
has taken steps forward towards Mercedes,
I think, come on, guys.
So I'm just a bit worried about Ferrari,
I don't want another season of sadness.
I did, I expected more from Ferrari this weekend,
I really did, especially when, you know,
they had so many upgrades they brought,
I think they brought the most upgrades
from any team to Miami,
they looked really good in that one free practice,
Charles sort of led the time sheets, didn't he?
And I was like, oh yeah, come on, Ferrari's weekend.
No, wasn't, wasn't, was it?
No. So far from it.
And imagine being a Ferrari fan,
it must be hard work, guys, God, I feel for you.
It's not, it's not there yet.
All I'm saying is, if we have more weekends like this,
we will be in territory of going, oh, God.
It's not there yet, but they've got to step up,
they didn't look like the contenders,
McLaren and Maxx's Red Bull looked like the contenders,
and that's not what I want from Ferrari.
I wanna see Ferrari win races,
I wanna see Ferrari fight for a title,
it's just been so long.
Keep the faith, Christian.
I do think it is gonna happen.
I've got, I believe in Fred.
I believe in Fred, I believe in Charles Leclerc
and I believe in Lewis, I believe in the team.
It is gonna happen for Ferrari,
but it definitely was not their weekend.
We have got so many questions that have come in.
A very common one was,
what do you think of Charles Leclerc's 22nd penalty?
Kirsty also added, do you think it was fair
considering he didn't gain any positions?
He had a very weird race, Charles Leclerc, didn't he?
Yeah, he had a very weird race,
and Gina says, what happened with Charles
at the end of the race, was it driver error?
Well, Charles came out at the end of the race
and said it was an error, so that's that put to bed.
It was driver error, yes.
And then as for Kirsty's question,
it's an unusual, it's an unusual penalty.
So Formula One cut up a montage of Charles leaving the track
at the multiple, he had the spin, he picked up some damage
and at the end of the race, on the way to the checkered flag,
cut several corners.
Now, I actually think it is a fair penalty,
because if you've spun, it's a very unusual one,
and this is a controversial opinion,
social media is awash with, oh, but the car was damaged,
it's a joke.
Yeah, the car was damaged, but that's not an excuse
not to go to the, stick to the track.
The rules are you have to stick between the white lines,
and if your car is, if you can recover your car
to recover from the pit lane,
it can't just be an accepted part of the sport
where you just ignore the track and ignore track limits
and just go to the pits,
because you are gaining an advantage from that.
So it's highly unusual, and there'll be circuits, of course,
where if it's all marked by gravel,
you can't do that, you have to stick to the track anyway.
But yeah, you can't go, well, I've damaged my front wing,
but it's okay, because I'll mitigate the damage
of damaging my front wing by just driving
straight across corners, you can't do it.
So it's highly unusual, but no, I think it is.
Either don't make it back to the pits and park your car,
but if you're going to drive back to the pits,
you need to stay on the track.
That's the rules, I'm afraid.
And it's also, it's a safety thing,
cars cutting across corners and re-entering the circuit
at points where other drivers don't expect to,
is how accidents happen.
So from a fairness point of view and a safety point of view,
it is a fair penalty for me.
Yeah, I mean, 20 seconds feels like a lot,
but I definitely do agree with you.
But it was multiple breaches.
Yeah, exactly.
So again, if they'd done it once, it might be five,
but and there will be, there was a point,
I think it was Landau who got a penalty last season,
and we said it seemed harsh,
but there's factors they have to stick to.
So multiple, equal 20, it's all in the rule book.
So yeah, I sort of, I don't have issue with that penalty.
It was Charles' mistake.
Listen, a lot of that, Charles was pushing,
and mistakes happen when you push.
I'm not going to kick Charles for that, you know, such his life,
but you've got to take a penalty for it.
I mean, look, Max made a mistake this weekend.
Everybody makes mistakes, you know what I mean?
I'm not necessarily going to sit here and kick Charles,
but I do think the penalty was justified.
And it just summed up Ferrari's weekend, really,
just a little bit messy.
And I do, I want to see a little bit more from Lewis as well,
because with China was great,
and Japan, he wasn't quite on Charles' pace.
This, he wasn't quite on Charles' pace.
I'm also going to be keeping an eye on Lewis in the next race,
because we're supposed to be seeing the revived Lewis Hamilton,
where we can really take the fight to Charles Clair,
and that didn't look likely at all this weekend.
Yeah, we thought we were getting revived Lewis Hamilton,
and instead we got a revived Max Verstappen,
it sort of felt like, didn't it?
But on Charles, I just thought it was, it was just so weird.
He was leading the race at one point,
and then, then he was down to third,
and then he ended up nowhere near the podium,
and in the end it was just such a letdown, wasn't it?
Well, it's also, yeah, it shows that we're all still learning
the new elements of the formula, aren't we,
because how much load did he put in his tyres
early on in the race by being out in the lead?
Was he using too much battery too early on,
which we get some information on on the graphics, but not all?
It shows you, I think, this year in this new Formula One,
that just because teams are battling for the lead at the start
doesn't necessarily mean they'll stay there.
I mean, that's always been the case to an extent,
but it might be further emphasised here, but, yeah, I just...
I just don't want to see poppy-dog eyes Charles Clair and Sad Lewis.
I want to see them happy and smiling and full of the joys of spring
and enjoying their life.
While we're on Charles Clair, let's bring in our radio radar,
the headline, with Charles Clair's radio message,
where he went,
next time you make a decision, speak to me, I am here.
It was so spicy.
Yeah, so he wasn't happy with when he pitted, was he?
No, he wasn't, he wasn't a happy bunny.
It's very sassy and quite camp, that is, isn't it?
I am here, you know?
Just saying, guys, I am here.
Next time you make a decision, guys, speak to me, I am here.
I mean, listen, talk to me, I am here.
I liked it, though.
Do you know what, fair play, Charles, you say that,
and I sort of agree, do you know what I mean?
Do you agree? Do you think they got that wrong?
I don't know, really.
Oh, fair.
The thing is, with that race,
it felt very hard to know where the pace truly was,
because it ebbed and flowed so much.
So it's really difficult to know in hindsight,
because also, it's not like there was any glaring strategy errors.
Like, oh, you didn't come into the safety car.
So it's really hard to assess whether coming in two laps difference,
one lap difference, would have made a difference.
That's the tricky point for me.
It's not like when we're saying,
oh, well, you didn't split your strategy
and one came into the safety car and the other didn't.
So I don't know, without the data in front of us,
which we don't have, it's really hard to know.
It's like what we were saying earlier with Lando.
It's really hard to know what difference it would have made in the end.
Speaking of spicy radio messages,
Carlos signs at the end of the first lap.
Max thinks he can do whatever he wants,
because he is racing in the midfield.
That cracked me up.
That was good.
And I didn't think Max was doing that much wrong personally.
And clearly, the steward's didn't, because he didn't get a penalty.
But yeah, that was good.
And then I also enjoyed George Russell at the restart.
I'm in the wrong ****** strat mode, guys.
Keep an eye out.
There's nothing worse than being in the wrong ****** mode.
I often nip to Sainsbury's and realise I'm in the wrong ****** mode.
And it's just nothing worse, is there?
It's just, in fact, let us know.
At Fast Curious pod, when's the worst time to be in the ****** mode
of you found in your life?
Just let us know, because there's nothing.
We've all been there.
There's nothing, but there's nothing worse, is there?
Stratting, Elle.
Fernando to his engineer.
I'm planning my overtaking.
You are overly stressed.
You want to change the settings every lap.
Just let me work.
Paul Fernand.
And that, actually, that's worth a mention, isn't it?
The ****** just didn't look any better.
It was just, again, I sort of hope they'd, after timing the factory,
look less of a mess, and they just didn't.
That's just another sad situation as well.
Yeah, it is.
I don't really think...
I think I'm right in saying they brought no upgrades to Miami.
I might be...
They might have brought maybe one or two,
but they didn't...
There wasn't a whole lot of changes,
and clearly it didn't make any difference on the track.
They're still battling the Cadillacs.
So it's just...
And listen, great respect to Cadillac.
I think Cadillac have a very impressive start.
I think to be where they're being and just being competitive
in race four, fair play.
I'm not criticising Cadillac.
I'm saying a team like Aston Martin
should be leaving them for dust.
So, yeah, no idea.
It is very depressing.
Also, this isn't radio, but did you see the clip of Lewis Hamilton
giving Franco Colopinto the middle finger in the first lap?
No, I entirely missed this.
It was so funny.
I didn't see this either,
but I was just having a Google today
about some of the best moments from the Miami Grand Prix,
and the Telegraph put the video up.
Go and have a watch.
Lewis Hamilton!
The legend that is Lewis Hamilton
sticking his middle finger up to Franco Colopinto.
It's killed me.
It's killed me.
It's so funny.
There's something undeniably funny
about the simplicity of it.
I've just seen it.
It's so good.
It's very funny.
But, but, but let me do a smooth link here
as we've done radio radar.
Let's go under the radar.
And Franco Colopinto.
I said he needed to be better
because he got his points early in the year,
then he dipped off again.
He, over the course of the weekend,
looked fractionally ahead of Gasly for me.
And I think that's the first time
I've ever watched Franco Colopinto at Alpine
over the course of a whole weekend
and thought, actually, Franco is the better Alpine driver.
Sprint qualifying.
Franco qualified eighth Pierre was tenth.
In the sprint race, Franco,
oh, Gasly got a point.
Franco was tenth, so he wasn't far behind.
In qualifying, Colopinto was eighth
and Gasly was ninth.
And in the race, now, Pierre got exceptionally unlucky
during the race
because he was poleaxed by Liam Lawson.
But it wasn't Liam Lawson's fault
because Liam Lawson's car broke,
so left him completely, you know,
no control over it at all.
And he poleaxed Gasly and barrel rolled Gasly.
So Gasly will be gutted at that
and Alpine will be gutted at that.
But how often regular listeners do you hear me
bang on about second drivers
needing to be there to pick up the pieces
when the other one isn't?
The fact that Gasly didn't finish the race
and Alpine had a seventh,
granted seventh, because Chargott is penalty,
but still, that is massive.
That was comfortably Franco Colopinto's
best weekend of his Formula One career.
And if he has weekends like he had in Australia at now,
let me get this right,
because he got points, didn't he, in China,
I believe, if I double-check this.
Yeah, he came 10th in China, good, better.
But I still thought he was a bit off it
in Australia and Japan.
But if he has weekends like he had in China and Miami
consistently, he will keep that seat
to the end of the season.
If not, we know Alpine are brutal
and they will change him.
But that was Colopinto's best weekend by a mile.
And Alpine were best of the rest.
If you look at the outside, the top four teams,
Alpine were, you know,
better than Williams and Haspikes wise this weekend.
I was super impressed with them this weekend.
And Racing Bulls also had a really tricky weekend.
So I keep saying this on the podcast, well done Alpine.
It's sort of going under the radar full stop,
I think, their transformation this season.
They've done really well to pull it back
from being slowest team on the grid last year
to this weekend being best of the rest outside the top four.
Really impressive.
Yeah, they're really establishing themselves
at the top of that midfield pack, aren't they?
And it's crazy when you think about the contrast of last season.
Where that team should be.
You know, this is a team with history,
with more resources than the likes of Hasp and Williams,
you could argue, not massively, but you could definitely argue.
So yeah, really impressed from Alpine.
And I'm also impressed with Williams-Betty.
Yeah, Williams got double points, didn't they?
Which is so important for them.
They needed this.
They'll be pleased.
I know they want more.
We know they want more.
And actually, I was watching both of the drivers,
Carlos Sines and Alex Albin throughout the weekend.
You just sort of see them like walking past and whatever.
And after qualifying, they looked absolutely livid.
They just looked really, just not very happy.
They didn't look happy on Saturday.
They didn't look particularly happy on Friday either.
But it's really good to see them get double points on Sunday.
They deserved it.
And I hope it means that they're going in the right direction.
The car is clearly tricky to drive, right?
There's no question about that.
We know that, like our good selves,
the car puts on too much weight over winter.
We know all of these things.
But qualifying was bad and Sines had this radio rant
where he said, oh, this is awful.
This is the worst thing in the world.
Things aren't good.
But I spoke to somebody from Williams after that session
and they said to me, do you know what?
It's not actually as bad as it appears.
We've had cars out of Q1 on sheer pace.
We didn't have to rely on others.
That's the step forward.
That person at Williams said to me,
we think we've gained a couple of tenths.
And that's without finding ways to take weight off the car,
which will come over time.
You've said as well, Betty, in your interactions with James.
I've not spoken to James for hours yet this season,
but you've spoken to him a couple of times
and said there's been optimism there.
And I think the fact that they were able to finish the race
on double points with ninth and tenth.
Don't forget how impressive has it been at times this season?
Well, they were 11th and 13th.
Just hadn't got the pace this weekend.
Audi aren't far off pace wise,
although Bortoletto seems to be the quickest Audi driver
at the moment, but that car looks fragile.
They had more reliability problems this weekend,
which is perhaps more what we expected
from a new engine supplier.
We didn't send to have it at the start of the season.
The racing bulls just didn't seem to like this track.
For their pretty yellow livery, which was lovely,
they could not get that car to work
around this Miami circuit this weekend.
It's an unusual track surface in Miami,
which it's quite coarse.
It's quite rough. It's quite dusty.
Some teams struggled to make their cars work in Miami.
Now, I don't know whether that was what caused
racing bulls problems, but it is a tricky circuit, Miami.
So basically what I'm saying is,
when all other teams were struggling,
Mercedes-Benz, Williams still did manage to get points.
And yes, the drivers are not happy
because they both want more.
They both are, you know, they're excellent drivers
who are both capable of fighting for podiums.
They want far more, but actually there were some
green shoots of recovery signs from Williams this weekend.
Those points were good for them.
So actually a bit of a step forward from Williams this weekend,
not quite as bad as it seems on the surface.
And again, Betty, back to your point from part one,
we like that the guys are unhappy, actually,
that we like that they're still going,
no, this is, we need more from this because
we want drivers to push.
We want them to not be satisfied with where they were.
So yeah, some better signs for Williams this weekend, I think.
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George Russell's community notice board.
He hasn't put a lot of effort into the community notice board
this week because he hasn't had the best weekend, I'd say.
So we forgive him for that.
Number one on the community notice board though,
Derek, your dog, was on McLaren's coffee.
How cool.
So I walked in to McLaren's hospitality
and was chatting to the lovely team there, who I often speak to.
Lauren and Jude and the lovely team at McLaren.
And Lauren, who is one of the lovely hospitality people,
said how obsessed with Derek she was.
And by the way, Derek got moved into the living room,
into his pen during the commercial break
for being too noisy with his highland cow.
So Derek's serving a pen penalty, unfortunately.
But do you know how I can put him on the coffee?
Because previously I've had coffees with the driver's face on them.
So amazingly, Bluetooth, the air drop this picture
and then it via the wonderful means of Bluetooth
that goes onto the coffee machine.
But I adore that it's just now,
that is now on the McLaren coffee machine.
That won't go.
So you'll be able to just go into a future Grand Prix
and I'll just be able to ask to have my dog put on the coffee.
Which is good for when you're feeling homesick, I think.
So thank you McLaren for that.
That was really nice.
And Betty, you said you didn't get one,
but your next race, hopefully it'll still be there.
So we'll get you a Derek coffee next time you're on.
So thanks McLaren for putting my dog on the coffee.
He'll be pleased with that.
I've still not actually spoken to him about it.
Thank you McLaren.
Very cute.
The other thing on the community notice board is,
did you see this on Martin Brundle's gridwalk?
Jimmy Fallon, why do I sound so weird?
Fallon, Jimmy Fallon.
It's good when people, like that is not wrong,
but it's just not right either, is it?
Fallon.
Tonight with Jimmy Fallon.
Anyway, he was eating.
He was with Martin Brundle, wasn't he?
Martin Brundle, yes.
He was eating the Sky Sports mic, Muff.
What was he doing?
What had that guy done to have the energy to do that?
He was wild.
I've not watched Martin's gridwalk yet,
because unfortunately I didn't have a Sky Feed
where I was watching the race from,
but I've been told it was a classic of the genre
of the Martin's gridwalk.
But you made a brilliant Sky Sports appearance this weekend.
I mean, you're on the rivals, you know.
You're working for F1 TV, so it shouldn't really happen,
but there's a brilliant,
you showed me a brilliant clip
that somebody had spotted where,
was it Ted's notebook?
Ted's rubbing through the paddock,
and you just see, for anyone who knows Betty, right?
Betty's an amazing sports presenter,
and hi to Faith that who messaged saying,
not a question, I just love seeing Betty on F1 TV.
Betty, our listeners are all loving seeing you thriving,
being a proper Formula One presenter,
and it's wonderful.
And you have amazing, you go on,
and you anchor this global sports television coverage
effortlessly, and everyone thinks she's amazing.
But anyone who's friends with Betty knows,
she's absolute chaos at all points of her life,
and it's this brilliant juxtaposition
between this calm anchor who holds sporting broadcasts together
from somebody who manages to lose everything,
spill coffee on everything, forget things,
and there's the most brilliant Betty Glover moment
where Ted's just walking through,
and Betty just goes,
like, running past Ted with, like, hair going everywhere,
like, panic, and it's like, now that's the Betty.
I know and love.
Chaos Betty in the back of Ted's notebook.
I'll tell you what happened.
Basically, we were on air.
So we were doing this,
I think this must have been post-Quality.
It was post-Quality,
because I was on the same notebook,
sat having a beer with Jenny Gao.
We were having better time than me, Jesus.
So we're on air, we're broadcasting,
blah, blah, blah, we're outside the TV pen,
and then I had dumped my phone and my pen
and a couple of other things just on the floor,
out of shot.
Next thing I know, we're repositioning.
So the floor manager, Amy's like,
everyone come on, everyone's like running,
it was a bit chaos,
and then I realized I've just left my phone on the floor
in the middle of the paddock.
Like, it's just there.
So I was like, oh, God, I can't leave it there.
Someone's gonna steal it.
So I had to run back, grab my phone,
and then I was like, where have they gone?
And so I'm just sprinting through the paddock,
trying to, and I can hear the cold in my ears.
So I can hear like back on air in 60 seconds,
and I'm like, Jesus, where are they sprinting through?
Little do I know.
I'm literally like running through Ted's notebook shot.
You'll have to put this on Instagram or something,
because it's so good.
It's just literally like-
I completely forgot about it, to be honest.
It's so, so good.
Yeah, I really, really enjoyed that.
So excellent.
But yeah, Betsy's loads of messages have come in for you
about your F1 TV brilliance, which we continue to enjoy.
Thanks, guys.
Learning, learning on the job, you know, we're getting there.
We had some other listening questions, listening.
Listening questions.
Listening questions as well.
The wheels are coming off.
You've had your 11-hour sleep.
I had three-hour sleep on a parked plane seat.
On a parked bench.
Anyway, on a parked-
A team with a parked bench.
I could have laid down on a parked bench.
Oh, that's true.
Sophie said, did Kimmy get actual champagne on the podium or not?
Because he is obviously under the legal drinking age of 19.
In the US.
I don't know.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
But I did spot, you know, the man who always...
And we spoke about him a few weeks ago,
because, bless him, he made the mistake
in calling Kimmy Antonelli, Kimmy Reichenan,
which we've all done at some point.
But I did notice at the end, rather than going,
the champagne!
You know that, with that bit?
He went, the celebration!
Oh, you're listening to classic FM.
I saw it.
He looked like you're riding a horse.
All right, Christian.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
It is a good point, though.
And do you know what?
I wish I'd gone around and asked someone.
Now, there was a clip of Kimmy asking Lando
if he could drink it.
So I just don't know.
I don't know.
There was several clips being like,
always Kimmy underage drinking,
which, of course, we can neither confirm
nor deny the validation of.
Interesting.
Yeah, he's not of legal drinking age.
But, yeah, I only had one alcoholic drink all weekend.
Oh, good for you.
And that was with Jenny Gao.
Oh, lovely.
We deserve it.
She led me astray.
She did.
Jenny Gao is known to do that, isn't she?
You know, you listen to Five Live,
and you think there's a professional broadcaster.
Wild, she is, when you get her off.
Wild.
Annez.
I don't know if I've pronounced that right.
Anise, I would go, but fine.
Hi, Annez.
Jimmy Fallon.
Go on, Annez.
Oh, God.
I need a break.
She said, are McLaren the ones
who were able to challenge Mercedes,
not Ferrari or Red Bull?
Yes.
We discussed it at the top of the show.
As we go into the next round,
as we go into the next round,
I think it's clear that Mercedes
are in pole position to...
Sorry, I think it's clear McLaren
are in pole position to challenge Mercedes,
and due to their fact
that they've got their such strong upgrades,
I think that's what we can expect to see.
But, you know, Red Bull were much improved.
Ferrari, we need to do better.
A lot of questions about Max Verstappen's penalty,
asking why did the stewards wait until after the race
to decide on an investigation and penalty for Max.
Sasha asked that specific one,
and a lot of people have been asking that
on social media as well.
Yeah, so I don't like it when they do this.
I much prefer...
And actually, Jolyne Palmer said this in commentary,
that it seems that it's one you could investigate
while the race is happening.
You don't want the checkered flag to wave
and be like, oh, but this could happen, that could happen.
But there's a statement from the stewards,
which I shall read in my posh stewards' statements voice.
Are you ready?
The stewards heard from the driver of car three,
Max Verstappen, team representative,
and reviewed video and in-car video evidence.
When the incident occurred,
there was limited video evidence available
to make a clear decision on whether an infringement had occurred.
We therefore decided to investigate the incident after the race
to see if we could get better video evidence of the incident
in the meantime, perhaps from other angles.
We were able to do so.
The new angles did show more views of the pit lane exit
and the incident in question.
Basically, at the end of the race,
sometimes you can access more video than you can
during the live graph race.
So they go, we can't actually see it,
we're not going to see it through the end of the race.
I'm sure the FIA think what we think.
You want to be able to get a penalty done,
an investigation done, I should say, in the race,
but it's not always possible.
So that's why.
And also, I would rather that they were sure about the decision
than they rushed the decision.
Save your time and get it right, yeah.
Exactly.
And also, on quite a few occasions,
they want to be able to hear from the drivers
and the drivers to sort of plead their case a little bit sometimes.
I know that was a bit different, but that's...
Here's a very old-school, fast and curious reference.
Hello, season one listeners.
The FIA are making their mind up.
Oh, another four inches.
Yeah.
That's a...
If you know that, you've been here since the start.
Well done.
Someone also asked me where McLaren news has gone,
and that's just sort of disappeared as well, hasn't it?
Again, a proper season one reference of McLaren news.
So maybe we should bring back McLaren news.
McLaren news.
Yeah, we need some McLaren news to do that with,
but let's bring it back.
Becky said,
do you think the changes in regulations have made a difference?
Oh, no idea, Becky.
There are many reasons I cover Formula One.
I do not proclaim to be a technical expert.
Did I fully understand the changes to the regulations
coming into this weekend?
No, I did not.
Do I know if they've made a difference?
No, I did not.
Betty, I'm damn sure you don't understand that either,
and I'm damn sure you don't know if it's made a difference.
Goodness knows.
I think, though, having watched qualifying,
qualifying felt better.
Qualifying, it felt like they weren't having to ease off
an energy harvest.
I don't know whether that's because there isn't
a massive long straight in my...
Oh, no, there is.
There is a massive long straight line, of course,
isn't there? I've ran it.
Yeah, so, yes, actually, hopefully...
That was my biggest issue with the rules.
Agreed.
Was the lack of pushing 100% in qualifying,
but it's so complicated.
It's so technical that I didn't fully understand
what we were expecting and not expecting,
and I know that's not on them.
There was plenty of people in the paddock saying the same thing.
So, yeah, it certainly seemed better in qualifying.
In the race, there was still lots of...
What's the words?
Swapping positions, but...
Like yo-yo-ing, there was yo-yo-ing, exactly.
But some people love that.
Some people love the fact that there's new,
more exciting racing in the league,
changing, some people don't, and that was still similar.
It felt a bit more authentic in Miami.
It just felt a bit closer to what we're used to.
And the drivers did say it's a step forward.
Now, some of them were still going,
oh, it's not what we want it to be.
And it's still starting to feel to me like
the next rule set changes.
I don't think we're going to be seeing
anywhere near as much battery dependency.
I think this will be an experiment
that comes and goes in Formula One.
But it's here for now.
I've just loved talking about the racing again.
I was so bored of rule changes talk.
I love Formula One racing.
I love it with all my heart.
I love the characters.
I love the teams.
I love the storylines.
I don't love mega-joules and harvesting.
I got so, so bored of it.
So the fact that it wasn't as high on the agenda this weekend,
I've just loved talking about the racing again.
We needed that.
Same, same, same.
Summer asked, and this really made me laugh,
did you survive the wet Florida weather?
Because I'm not being funny.
After all the chat on Sunday,
there was rain and thunder in the morning.
I woke up Sunday morning to thunder and lightning
and I thought, oh God, this race isn't going to go ahead, is it?
And then it just went and there wasn't really any rain
for the rest of Sunday after all of that.
And even when the race would have been, it was wet,
but it wasn't as wet as feared.
But I do, I think we should say,
and there will be people who,
as we've had in the comments sometimes,
they should go, oh, you're FIA puppet masters.
We're not really well done to the FIA and Formula One.
Definitely.
The way the sport was so agile and going,
you know what, the storm's coming.
This makes more sense.
We're going to move the race forward.
They did it seamlessly.
Unfortunately, it cost a Porsche Super Cup race,
but such is life.
I just think that's extremely impressive.
And it shows an agility that not many sports
would be able to pull off.
So well done, everyone, because we've all seen,
Belgium, I think it was 2022 or 2021,
it was one of the two where we didn't get a race,
just went on the safety car,
and people went, well, why didn't they move it?
It shows you that lessons have been learned
from things like that.
So well done, F1 and well done, FIA.
That was the right call to do that,
to be safe rather than sorry.
Definitely, definitely.
But it did make me laugh because it was quite a dry race.
It was.
And unfortunately, we end the podcast where we started.
It meant that while I was waiting for my flights,
I was planning a walk along the beach.
Instead, I sat and worked on my laptop
in a supermarket cafe
because it was pouring it down and blowing a gale.
Yeah, unfortunately, Summer,
that was the casualty of the weekend for me.
My beach walk while waiting for the flight,
but I did get a lot of work done in that supermarket cafe
and had a very nice chicken burrito thing.
So it's the old bad news.
Excellent.
Two weekends until Canada comes back.
Where's Canada been?
Well, come from last year's back again.
I didn't know Canada would go anywhere.
Canada is back.
That's nice for it.
Yeah, we've got another break in our hands though, don't we?
Do you think that we're going to see more upgrades,
more changes and more changes to the pecking order?
Yes, we will see more upgrades.
Yes, we will see more changes to the cars.
Will we see changes to the pecking order?
Without question.
The thing is, it's so track to track,
and despite them both being street-ish circuits,
Miami and Montreal are quite different.
So just because teams like Racing Bulls, for example,
had a difficult weekend in Miami,
doesn't mean they will in Montreal.
Just because drivers had a difficult weekend,
like George Russell in Miami, doesn't mean they will in Montreal.
So in answer to all of your questions, Betty,
yes, I'm sure there'll be changes.
And we look forward to seeing them as this season unfolds
in front of our very eyes and ears.
I'm really tired.
Yeah, shall we? Do you want to go to bed?
I'm going to stay up, but I need to unpack.
I literally got in, gone to bed, got up, done the podcast.
I need to unpack, then I need to repack,
because I'm going to Scotland this week to look at wedding venues.
Oh my God, that's exciting.
Very exciting.
Yeah, I've got a work thing tomorrow.
I'm just telling you, my schedule,
I'm sure nobody cares about me or anything else.
I'm going to work thing tomorrow,
then I'm going straight back to Heathrow
to go up to Scotland for the rest of the week,
to go and look at some wedding venues.
Oh, that is really exciting.
It's been nice, isn't it?
Planning a wedding is not for the weak-hearted.
Actually, I'm actually lying.
I don't find it stressful at all.
It's just ag.
And it's admin ag, and I hate admins, so I don't enjoy it.
Well, there's an easy way around.
And just leave Alex.
Fuck, I just, yeah, I'm not going to...
Just sack him off and you don't have to get married.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Right, we are going to be back.
Well, good luck, Alex.
Stop up, mum Michelle.
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About this episode
Miami left the hosts convinced Kimi Antonelli is arriving as a genuine force, with Mercedes and George Russell feeling the pressure after a weekend where Kimi looked faster from start to finish. McLaren’s progress and Ferrari’s stagnation shape the wider title picture, while Alpine, Williams, and Aston Martin each get a reality check of their own. The conversation also touches on FIA decision-making, the new regulations, and how quickly the pecking order could shift again.
Formula 1 has returned to the track, and Betty and Christian have returned from Miami with all the insight and analysis from the States.
How far off the Kimi Antonelli's pace is George Russell?
Could McLaren have done better to challenge for the win?
And which Radio Radar is the sassiest of the weekend?
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