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Old Cars and New Adventures with Brian McLean

Old Cars and New Adventures with Brian McLean

The Avants Podcast Jun 08, 2026 58 min
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About this episode

Rallying older vintage cars is framed as “a gamble,” but the hosts and guest Brian McLean keep coming back to why long-distance use works: deferred maintenance, not age, is often the real culprit. The conversation ranges from towing coverage and roadside breakdown stories to cold-weather diesel gelling, DEF cautions, and even fuel/fluids improvisation. Along the way, they share classic-car shopping and rare Ferrari/Rolls-Royce adventures, plus practical rally/road-trip logistics and group-driving etiquette.

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Car

Ford Bronco

"... We have two full-size, two babies, and the weird Bronco. The weird Bronco, yeah. Yeah, no, doing good."

The Ford Bronco is a large SUV made to handle rough roads and off-road trails. People talk about it a lot because it’s designed for adventure but can still be used like a normal daily car. The podcast is just referencing one they have or had.

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rally older vintage cars

"We're going to talk... A while ago, we brought up a topic about it's really cool to rally older vintage cars that are kind of a gamble, and there's always an adventure when you're taking an older car on a rally."

They mean taking old classic cars on a rally-style drive—usually a planned route with rules. The “gamble” part is that older cars can break down or need more help than newer ones.

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adventure when you're taking an older car on a rally

"and there's always an adventure when you're taking an older car on a rally. We're just going for a long drive. I mean, even a cross-country road trip."

They’re describing how old cars can make a trip more unpredictable—like getting problems on the road. With a newer car, you usually don’t have to deal with that as often.

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cross-country road trip

"We're just going for a long drive. I mean, even a cross-country road trip. It's a cool, different experience, and we have a guest that's very, very familiar with that."

It’s a very long drive across the country. Long trips can be harder on older cars, especially if something goes wrong far from home.

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towing package

"[82.1s] but the problems are more interesting when... Where's the nearest service station? [85.9s] 1800 miles that way. [88.0s] That's why I have great towing package with through Hagerty on the Triumph."

A towing package is coverage that helps pay for a tow truck if your car can’t be driven. It’s especially useful for older cars that might break down and need help getting to a shop.

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Company

Hagerty

"1800 miles that way. [88.0s] That's why I have great towing package with through Hagerty on the Triumph. [92.1s] That's right."

Hagerty is a company that focuses on classic-car owners. In this segment, they’re providing towing coverage so the car can be moved if it breaks down far from home.

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Car

Mazda Rx8

"[98.1s] Speaking of which, I saw... I was impressed today. [100.3s] I saw an RX-8 on the road, and it was running. [102.2s] No. No. [103.7s] It was just running."

The Mazda RX-8 is a special kind of sports car because it uses a rotary engine instead of the usual piston engine. The host is impressed because the car is running normally, not just sitting in a garage.

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LS swap

"[114.1s] So it obviously had a Chevy engine in it. [115.6s] Probably. [116.0s] Oh, okay. [117.2s] It's an LS swap. [118.4s] Yeah, I was going to say."

An LS swap is when someone removes the original engine and installs a GM LS V8 instead. People do it because the LS engines are powerful, reliable, and there are lots of parts and know-how for them.

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diesel

"[120.7s] Carter, I'm going to give you a tip of the week. [122.5s] We talked about diesel before, and we talked about farm diesel, off-road diesel, agricultural diesel,"

Diesel is a type of fuel used in diesel engines. The host is about to talk about diesel used in different settings like farm and off-road work.

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number two

"almost all we have here is the most commonest diesel number two. That's your standard, just everything diesel."

“Number two” is the regular diesel most people see at the pump. It works great in normal temperatures, but in deep cold it can thicken and cause starting problems. Colder regions may use different diesel grades.

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block heaters

"It's why you have heaters and some diesels. Block heaters. Yeah."

A block heater is a plug-in heater that warms the engine before you start it. In cold weather, it makes starting easier and helps the diesel run instead of refusing to start. People use it a lot where winters are harsh.

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gel

"Like biodiesel will gel much higher temperatures than number two or diesel. Once you get close to freezing, you got to be careful with bio…"

“Gel” here means the diesel fuel gets thick and waxy in cold temperatures. If it gels, it can block fuel from reaching the engine, making starting harder or impossible.

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B20

"Once you get close to freezing, you got to be careful with bio, especially if it's higher than like B20."

B20 is a mix of biodiesel and regular diesel—about 20% biodiesel. In cold weather, blends with more biodiesel can be more likely to thicken or gel.

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dash

"My parents took the van out for a trip and my dad's like, there's a light that came on the dash and we had spoken about it."

The “dash” is the area with the gauges and warning lights. If a light comes on there, it usually means the car noticed a problem.

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DEF

"Most diesel systems with DEF are not designed for the additives that are in them. Oddly enough, there's even warnings about it when I had my GMC, which specific DEF to get, and they were like nothing with additives."

DEF is a special fluid used on many diesel trucks. It’s added to the exhaust to help the engine meet emissions rules. Using the wrong kind of fluid (or mixing additives into it) can cause problems because the system expects the correct DEF.

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warranty

"Hey, storyteller, put Cummins diesels in your van. I think that might ruin my warranty. Anyway, we have a guest today."

Here, “warranty” means the manufacturer’s promise to fix certain problems for free. The host is saying that changing the engine (like swapping in a Cummins) could cause the warranty to not apply.

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Ford Ranger

"...her time, but I got somebody else in a van spot a ranger raptor. Oh, yeah."

The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck that’s smaller than a full-size truck but still meant for hauling and everyday driving. Some versions are built to be more performance-focused and tougher off-road. The podcast mention sounds like a comparison involving a Ranger Raptor.

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F-150 Raptor

"...e, but I got somebody else in a van spot a ranger raptor. Oh, yeah."

The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck used for everyday driving and hauling. The podcast mention sounds like it’s part of a group of vehicles they were talking about, not a detailed technical discussion. It’s being referenced because it’s a common, practical truck.

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Car

71 long wheelbase Rolls Royce Shadow

"But, you know, the one that I've put the most mileage on that I've had probably the longest [455.1s] is a 71 long wheelbase Rolls Royce Shadow. [458.6s] Nice. [459.4s] So we've had that car 12, 13 years now."

This is a 1971 Rolls-Royce Shadow, and the “long wheelbase” means more space between the front and rear seats for a smoother, more comfortable ride. The big point here is that the host uses it like a real road-trip car, not just a show car.

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Place

Palm Springs

"We just drove it down to Palm Springs last month and back. [466.8s] So about 3,000 miles we put on it. [470.7s] And my wife insisted we take that one because that's the one with the operational air conditioning"

Palm Springs is a hot desert area. If you’re driving there in an older car, having air conditioning that works is a big deal.

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operational air conditioning

"And my wife insisted we take that one because that's the one with the operational air conditioning [475.2s] and we need it in Palm Springs. [477.3s] Yep."

They’re saying the car’s air conditioning actually works. For an older car, that matters a lot on hot trips because you don’t want to be stuck without cooling.

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Topic

Route 66

"We've put about 35,000 miles on that car. [483.8s] We've driven that car most of the way down Route 66. [488.0s] We've done trips around Vancouver Island."

Route 66 is a legendary U.S. road trip route. They’re bringing it up to show the car was actually driven on big trips.

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low mileage vehicle

"There's a lot of people that aim for a low mileage vehicle, especially when they start looking for older stuff because they feel like that's a vehicle in better shape."

People often think fewer miles means less wear. But if a car sat unused for a long time, parts can still go bad from age, not just from driving.

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rubbers or nitrile bits

"So things that are made out of rubbers or nitrile bits or... All of those things that are artificial pieces, they all rot over time."

Nitrile rubber (often used in seals, hoses, and fuel-system components) and other rubber parts harden and crack as they age. Heat, fuel exposure, and time accelerate this “rot,” so long-stored cars often need rubber refresh work.

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Toyota Land Cruiser

"...because you got a better starting point. Yeah, my Land Cruiser had relatively low miles at a 99, I think about i..."

The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV designed for long-term ownership and rough terrain. It’s known for being dependable and is often kept for many years. The podcast is referencing a 1999 example with low miles.

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well-rings

"All the injectors needed new well-rings, basically anything, like you said, anything that was rubber needed to be replaced..."

Well-rings are small seals that help keep fuel from leaking around the injector area. If the rubber ages, they can fail, so they often get replaced during injector service.

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injectors

"All the injectors needed new well-rings, basically anything, like you said, anything that was rubber needed to be replaced, anything, anything that was rubber needed to be replaced."

Fuel injectors are the parts that deliver fuel to the engine. On older cars, the small rubber seals around them can wear out, so the injectors may need seal replacements to prevent leaks and keep running right.

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65 horsepower

"So on a good day, it might have had like 65 horsepower. [773.0s] Right."

Horsepower is a number that tells you how strong the engine is. Here, they’re saying the diesel wasn’t very powerful.

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Type 2 bus

"We got passed by a Type 2 bus going up a hill. [785.8s] Those things can go up hill?"

A “Type 2 bus” is a classic Volkswagen van/bus. The speakers are joking that even something that looks like a big old bus can still climb a hill.

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350Z

"I would have had, had my XKR and I had my 350Z. [812.9s] So I had fun cars, but I didn't have old fun cars."

The 350Z is a Nissan sports car. They’re mentioning it as one of the fun cars they had at the time.

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rust

"It had rust, but I had fun. And I'm like, you know, I think I just want a better version."

Rust is when metal starts corroding. On an older car, it can be a big problem because it can damage the body and spread even if it looks small at first.

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veneer

"It was in colors. I absolutely fell for the veneers in it. We're just spectacular."

Here, “veneer” means a thin decorative wood finish used inside the car. The host liked the look of the wood trim.

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1969 Rolls Royce coupé

"And then, and then a couple of months ago, a friend offered me. He had a two door coupé, a 1969 Rolls Royce coupé."

This is a 1969 Rolls-Royce two-door coupe. It’s a very old-school luxury car, and the point here is that it’s a cool classic that someone offered as a gift or hand-me-down.

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Aston Db9S

"a manual. And so I knew they made a few Aston DB9s and manuals. I driven one."

The Aston Martin DB9 is a luxury sports car meant for smooth, fast driving. The podcast is talking about a version that can be driven with a manual transmission. They’re mentioning it because they’ve driven one and know about how rare that setup is.

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Fiat 500

"So I call the dude and I kid you not this little dude and a 500 who's the mechanic, he screeches up like seven minutes later, because we hadn't gone far."

The Fiat 500 is a small, popular Italian car. In the story, the mechanic arrives in a Fiat 500 to help after the main car won’t restart.

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alternator

"So they did, they got it working and, you know, we had one alternator fail because there's two of them."

The alternator is what keeps the car’s battery charged while you’re driving. If it fails, the car can lose power or refuse to restart, which is why it matters in this story.

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drain the battery

"And so I would drain the battery. So we had bought another battery and a charger and we'd swap batteries every night..."

“Drain the battery” means the car uses up the battery’s stored electricity faster than it can recharge. If that happens, the car may not start.

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Dodge Charger

"...e battery. So we had bought another battery and a charger and we'd swap batteries every night to make it th..."

The Dodge Charger is a sporty car that’s built for performance. The podcast mention suggests they had trouble with the battery and used a charger and battery swaps to keep it running. That’s a practical maintenance or troubleshooting topic.

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hot start issues

"it was broke down by the road because it had hot start issues and other stuff."

“Hot start issues” means the car is hard to start after it has been running and then sits briefly. Heat can make certain parts act up, so it won’t crank or fire as easily.

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car washes

"Usually when we're eating or at the car washes, yeah, yeah, big time. Oh no, I mean, like happened, happened over this last weekend, you know,"

They’re talking about car washes as a place where car people hang out. It’s not just cleaning cars—it’s where they meet, talk, and connect.

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Place

Wilbur, Washington

"we went to this little old drive-in in the middle of nowhere, Wilbur, Washington and Wilbur. Yep."

Wilbur is a small town in Washington. The hosts went to a classic drive-in there, which is a common kind of hangout for car people.

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Viper

"And, you know, of course, us being. No, get away. Like, well, which ones? The first one, Viper. I was going to say the Viper had to be high on the list."

The Viper is a famous American sports car. It’s known for having a huge engine and a very exciting, old-school driving experience.

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Buick Skylark

"...re. And, you know, coming from a 75 piece of junk Skylark in high school, right? Right."

The Buick Skylark is a car model made by Buick. In the podcast, the speaker is talking about an older Skylark they had in high school and calling it unreliable or not very good. It’s mentioned as part of a personal history.

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fuel pump

"Did we have a fuel problem? Is the fuel pump bad? And then it really makes a violent jarring."

A fuel pump is the part that sends gas from the tank to the engine. If it goes bad, the engine may not get enough fuel and can start acting up or even stop running.

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lock solid

"And just as I'm about to slowing down where there's an overpass I'm aiming to just get underneath the rear right wheel, just lock solid. We left, we left a stripe like 40 feet long as it came to a halt."

“Lock solid” means something that should rotate gets stuck and can’t move. In a car, that can happen when a part like a bearing fails, and the vehicle may stop suddenly.

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differential

"I'm like, well, we either just lost a bearing or a differential or I'm going to call it tow truck."

The differential is part of the drivetrain that lets the two driven wheels turn at different speeds, like when you go around a corner. If it breaks, the car can make bad noises and may not move normally.

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seized failed bearing

"No, it isn't. It wasn't. So it, and it ultimately, it did, it did have a seized failed bearing."

A bearing helps moving parts spin smoothly. If it seizes, it can basically jam and lock things up, which can cause loud crunching and the vehicle to stop abruptly.

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parts depot

"Yeah, like there's not a parts depot is going to have what I need."

A “parts depot” is basically a place that stores car parts and can sell or ship them. If you’re fixing a car and need a specific part, that’s the kind of place you’d look for it.

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trailer

"We found nearby they put a trailer and little, one of those little box vans together and we loaded the rolls up to it."

A trailer is like a cart you tow behind a vehicle to carry things. In this story, they used one to haul the items after loading them up.

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box vans

"We found nearby they put a trailer and little, one of those little box vans together and we loaded the rolls up to it."

A “box van” is a fully enclosed truck for hauling items. It keeps cargo protected while it’s being transported.

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car ship

"Or you've, you've, you've got that car ship somewhere. It's going to cost you just as much as the U-Haul."

A “car ship” means paying someone to transport the car for you. They’re saying it might cost about the same as renting a truck/trailer, but takes more time.

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U-Haul

"It's going to cost you just as much as the U-Haul."

U-Haul is a company that rents moving trucks and trailers. Here, they’re comparing hauling options and costs.

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quad headlights

"They looked at it and they saw the quad headlights, but they didn't know how to put a square, you know, they, they're like, this is a square back in Paul, what is this?"

Quad headlights means the car has four headlights instead of two. It’s a visual detail that makes older cars easier to recognize.

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Riviera

"And I've had people say, is this a Riviera when looking at it from the front? Okay, I can see that."

The Buick Riviera is a specific older Buick model line. The speaker says people thought the car was a Riviera just based on how the front looked.

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Rietta

"Okay, I can see that. I guess not a Riviera, Rietta. Rietta, yeah, I actually understood what you meant."

The Buick Reatta is a specific Buick model. The speaker is saying people mix it up with the Riviera, but it’s actually the Reatta.

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kilometerage

"I mean, kilometerage. Kilometerage. Cause that car is all in, you know, metric, not, not, not freedom."

Kilometerage just means how many kilometers the car has been driven. It’s the metric version of mileage.

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V12

"And it's a V12 Ferrari. It's got torque. It's got torque all day long, right?"

A “V12” means the engine has 12 cylinders arranged in two groups that form a V shape. It’s a big, high-end engine layout that often sounds great and pulls strongly.

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torque

"And it's a V12 Ferrari. It's got torque. It's got torque all day long, right?"

Torque is the engine’s pulling strength—the force that gets the car moving. More torque usually means easier acceleration without needing to rev as high.

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AC

"So we could, we get idle with all the cooling fans and the AC on. Was the AC functional? Was it?"

“AC” means the car’s air conditioning. They’re talking about whether it was working and whether the car could idle normally with it running.

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cooling fans

"So we could, we get idle with all the cooling fans and the AC on. Was the AC functional? Was it?"

Cooling fans are the electric fans that help keep the engine from overheating. They usually run when the car needs extra cooling, like at idle.

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millimeter belts

"But I also felt bad for it because I'd only replaced one of the alternators and [2132.5s] they have like eight millimeter belts. [2134.1s] And I was afraid of shredding one."

Belts are like power-transmission straps that spin important parts. If the belts are very small or narrow, they can be easier to damage if they’re not in perfect condition.

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throw a code

"That car did not throw a code the whole trip. [2154.7s] Nope. [2155.0s] Just arcana. [2156.6s] The Porsche's through codes."

Cars have computers that watch sensors and systems. If something goes wrong, the car can save an error message (a code); “no code” means it didn’t detect any problems.

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Car

Alpina Z8

"...s suffocating and dying. Well, Lincoln did in the Z8 and then we got to the drive through tree, the Ch..."

An Alpina Z8 is a special version of the Z8 that’s been modified by Alpina. Alpina is known for tuning cars to feel better and perform differently than stock. The podcast is mentioning it as part of a story, not as a basic introduction.

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Car

XKR

"Yeah, after spending, after spending a day behind Alex's Viper with [2228.8s] because I took the XKR on this trip last weekend."

The Jaguar XKR is a faster, sportier Jaguar than the regular XK, known for strong acceleration and a more “serious” driving feel. They’re using it as the other car in their trip story.

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top down

"And I had the top down for a lot of it. [2233.7s] So it's just the glorious sound of that Viper snaking through sneak,"

“Top down” just means the car is a convertible and the roof is down while driving. It makes the engine/exhaust sounds louder and more fun to hear.

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M4

"We forced Ben into it because we didn't want to really take him back to pick up [2262.0s] his M4, but didn't even put a foot wrong the whole weekend."

The BMW M4 is BMW’s high-performance version of the 4 Series. They’re talking about it as Ben’s modern car that they didn’t want to make him go back for.

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override button

"I'm like, there's an override button to turn the AC off. [2281.2s] And that one I'm like, if you need more power, it's the passing button."

An override button is a control that lets you bypass or change the normal behavior of a system. Here, the host says there’s an override to turn the AC off, likely to reduce load on the engine for more power or throttle response.

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passing button

"And that one I'm like, if you need more power, it's the passing button. [2284.2s] Push the off button first."

A passing button is a button you press when you want extra push to overtake. In this story, it’s treated like a quick way to get more power right when you need it.

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85 Mercedes wagon diesel

"We've done, I have an 85 Mercedes wagon diesel that was relatively long mileage when I picked it up. It was only 90 something thousand when I picked it up."

This sounds like an older Mercedes-Benz wagon with a diesel engine. The host is saying it has a lot of miles but still works well enough to drive often.

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G-Class Mercedes Wagon

"But so funny. We've done, I have an 85 Mercedes wagon diesel that was relatively long mileage when I pi..."

The G-Class is a luxury SUV made by Mercedes-Benz. It’s designed to handle rough roads and is known for being built tough. The podcast is mentioning an older diesel Mercedes they had with high mileage, as an example of long-term ownership.

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W123s

"when you talk about the opposite spectrums of, you know, what's reliable and what's not reliable, those those W123s are the cockroaches of the car world."

“W123” is a Mercedes-Benz model generation. The host is basically saying it’s one of those older Mercedes cars that’s hard to kill and tends to last a long time.

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Porsche Boxster

"Sherry has a 21 GTS Boxster, a GTS 4. Yeah. She specced that out exactly the way she wants it. You can tell it if it's in her name, just just write it down."

A 2021 Porsche Boxster GTS is a Porsche roadster with a sporty trim level. The host is saying it was ordered with the exact options the owner wanted.

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specced

"Yeah. She specced that out exactly the way she wants it. You can tell it if it's in her name, just just write it down."

“Specced” means you picked the exact options and configuration for the car when you ordered it. The host is saying Sherry chose everything the way she wanted.

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2011 XJL

"I have a 2011 XJL as well, but that's kind of the that's that's the winner beater car picked it up off of auction really cheap felt pretty confident because the XKR has the same drivetrain."

The 2011 Jaguar XJL is a bigger, longer version of the Jaguar XJ. It’s meant to be a comfortable cruiser. In this segment, the key point is that the host chose it because it shares the same main mechanical setup as his XKR, which helps him feel confident about reliability.

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drivetrain

"felt pretty confident because the XKR has the same drivetrain."

Your drivetrain is the “power path” that takes engine power and sends it to the wheels. If two cars share the same drivetrain, they often feel similar to drive and can have overlapping parts and repair knowledge.

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HP DE

"It's kind of my HP DE fun day car. And it kind of jumps all the way back to the 85 928."

“HP DE” is basically a track day—an event where you drive your own car on a race track for fun and practice. It’s not a race like NASCAR; it’s more about learning and enjoying the car safely.

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T H four hundreds

"the motors themselves are great. The transmissions are T H four hundreds. I mean, yeah, there's not a lot to go wrong with them."

This is the host talking about the car’s transmission type. He’s saying that, in his experience, that transmission is generally dependable if you drive and maintain it the right way.

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braking system

"As long as you treat them well. And then it's the braking system that's weird. But now that I understand what that is and what it entails,"

The braking system is what makes the car slow down and stop. The host is saying that part felt unusual at first, but now he understands why.

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Dodge Challenger

"... was a different dude. But just this bright green challenger pops up at a gas station and say, can I follow yo..."

The Dodge Challenger is a muscle car, meaning it’s designed to be fast and have a strong engine. The podcast is describing a bright green one that stood out at a gas station. It’s being mentioned because it caught attention and led to a fun moment.

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convertible

"OK, so it's it's convertible. It's orange over white with a white top."

A convertible is a car with a roof that can be lowered or removed to let you drive with open-air exposure. In classic American cars, convertibles were often a major part of the “show” and lifestyle appeal, not just a performance feature.

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front wheel drive

"I mean, it's it's a 500 cubic inch front wheel drive."

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of both steering and moving the car. It’s different from cars where the back wheels are the ones that push you along.

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500 cubic inch

"I mean, it's it's a 500 cubic inch front wheel drive."

Cubic inches measure the size of an engine. “500 cubic inches” means it’s a very large engine, which usually translates to strong pulling power.

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Car

Porsche 928

"The 928 was the 928 was somewhat whimsical... But like, well, the 928 is cheap enough... And then I fell in love with it... it's actually one of my favorite cars to drive... It sounds great... it's just pop up headlights."

The Porsche 928 is a Porsche grand touring car—meant for cruising. It’s known for its V8 sound and for having pop-up headlights, and the host is saying it’s fun and easy to drive for everyday errands.

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pop up headlights

"I think it's just cool... It sounds great... and it's easy to drive and and it's just pop up headlights... It's pop up headlighting."

Pop-up headlights are headlights that slide up from the front of the car when you turn them on, instead of staying fixed in place. The host is pointing out that this is a cool, recognizable feature on the car.

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lower 48

"So yeah, that's one thing I've learned from driving a lot of cars across countries in the most back remote ways possible is in the lower 48 of US."

“Lower 48” just means the main part of the U.S. that’s connected by land. It’s not Alaska or Hawaii, and it matters because you’re usually not as far from help as you might think.

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overlanders

"And like two hours later, there's some like a convoy of overlanders comes by and I'm like, I'm 100 miles from anything."

An “overlander” is a traveler who drives far into remote areas, usually on rough roads. They typically plan ahead so they can handle problems far from towns.

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Starlink

"It's uncomfortable, you know, but we've got battery, we've got phone. We'll figure it out. Well, you know, yeah, now we've got Starlink."

Starlink is satellite-based internet. It can work even where cell service doesn’t, which helps if you’re stuck somewhere remote.

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pilot bearing

"Yeah, well, seeing your trips, the Ferrari, the Ferrari seized its pilot, its main, what was it called, the pilot bearing in the club in the transmission on that trip down to Monterey last year."

The pilot bearing is a small part that helps the transmission input shaft spin smoothly where it meets the engine. If it goes bad, the car can start making noise or feel rough when you drive.

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Place

Monterey

"the pilot bearing in the club in the transmission on that trip down to Monterey last year."

Monterey is a California area that’s famous for car events. Enthusiasts often plan trips there because there are lots of automotive activities.

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