OVERRATED “JDM Legend”? 🤔 (Trigger Warning)

OVERRATED “JDM Legend”? 🤔 (Trigger Warning) Konig - Behind The Wheel Podcast · Jul 8, 2026

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Topic

Formula D

Formula D is a drifting race series. Drivers try to slide their cars around corners in a controlled way, and judges score the runs. The host is saying they went to Formula D first, then checked out another car event the next morning.

Concept

JDM legend

A “JDM legend” is a car that became famous in Japanese domestic market (JDM) culture and is often treated as iconic or mythic by enthusiasts. The host argues that pop culture hype can outweigh what the car is actually like in real life, even if the car is still good. This segment is essentially debating whether the Nissan Skyline GT-R R34’s reputation is “overrated.”

Term

stock

Here “stock” means the car is basically as it came from the factory, with no performance upgrades. If you buy it expecting modern speed, it can feel disappointing.

Term

torque

Torque is the engine’s “twisting power.” It’s a big part of how strongly the car pulls when you accelerate, especially from lower speeds.

Term

engine swaps

An engine swap means putting a different engine into your car instead of the original one. People do it to make the car faster or more fun, but it can be a big project.

Term

turbos

A turbo is a device that helps the engine make more power by pushing extra air into it. More air usually means more power, assuming the engine is set up correctly.

Term

front end

“Front end” just means the car’s front styling—things like the headlights and bumper. The host is saying people swap that front styling onto other cars because it looks better.

Term

SR

“SR” is Nissan’s engine family. If a car has an “SR,” it usually means it’s the kind of Nissan engine that a lot of people like to modify and tune.

Car

180 sx

The Nissan 180SX is a Japanese sports coupe that’s popular with enthusiasts. It’s rear-wheel drive and it’s often linked to the Nissan SR engine and the whole JDM tuning scene.

Car

Nissan S15

The Nissan S15 is a specific generation of the Silvia sports car. People talk about it a lot because it’s a rear-wheel-drive JDM car that’s popular for performance upgrades.

Term

Type X

“Type X” is a trim level—basically a more equipped version of the car. The speaker is saying the Type X is the kind of spec you’d want if you’re chasing the full JDM experience.

Term

hatchback 240s

“Hatchback 240s” refers to the Nissan 240SX in a hatchback body style, which is a U.S.-market icon for drifting and tuning. The speaker contrasts those cars with the 180SX, emphasizing that the 180SX is a different “animal” than the 240SX you could get here.

Term

SE

“SE” is a trim level—think “package” or “version” of the car. The speaker is saying the U.S. SE cars had fewer features than the JDM-spec cars he’s talking about.

Term

spoiler

A spoiler is a piece on the back of the car that helps with airflow. It also often shows that a car is a sportier version.

Term

right-hand drive

Right-hand drive means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. If you’re used to U.S. cars, it can feel different immediately when you sit down and drive.

Term

throttle

The throttle is basically the accelerator. When you press it, the car lets the engine make more power.

Car

R34

The “R34” is a Nissan Skyline GT-R, a super popular Japanese performance car. People talk about it a lot because it’s been featured in movies and games, so it became a legend even for people who don’t follow cars closely.

Term

Gran Turismo

Gran Turismo is a popular racing video game series. The host is saying it helped make the R34 famous by putting it in the game over and over.

Term

boost controller

A boost controller is a gadget that changes how hard a turbocharger pushes. It can make a turbo car feel stronger by increasing boost beyond stock.

Term

filter

A “filter” here probably means an upgraded air filter. It helps the engine breathe better, which can make the car feel a bit more responsive—especially on turbo cars.

Term

competitive drag car

A “competitive drag car” is a car prepared to run fast in drag racing, typically emphasizing acceleration and straight-line traction over road-course balance. The speaker implies the car was modified or used in a way that changed its original character.

Term

grand tour

A “grand tour” (often “GT”) is a car designed for comfortable, fast long-distance driving rather than pure track-focused performance. The speaker is arguing that the car they’re discussing wasn’t originally meant to be a dedicated drag car, so the mismatch in purpose affects how it feels.

Term

two Jay-Z swap

A “two Jay-Z swap” refers to engine swapping—specifically replacing a car’s original engine with a different engine from the “JZ” family (commonly the Toyota 1JZ or 2JZ). In this context, the host is saying that doing a JZ swap “into anything” wasn’t common at the time where they were.

Car

Nissan Skyline R34

The Nissan Skyline R34 is a famous Japanese sports car from the late 1990s. People love it because it has a strong performance reputation and a big enthusiast following, so it gets a lot of hype.

Car

Mazda RX-7

The Mazda RX-7 is a classic sports car known for a rotary engine, which feels different from normal engines. The speaker also says the driving position is very “driver-first,” like you’re sitting in a cockpit with everything placed for you.

Term

rotary

A “rotary” engine is an engine type where a spinning part makes power instead of pistons moving up and down. It changes how the car feels when you accelerate—often in a very distinctive way.

Term

driver centric

“Driver centric” describes a cockpit layout where controls, visibility, and steering feel are arranged to prioritize the driver’s inputs and awareness. It’s a design philosophy that often shows up in how the shifter, seating position, and dashboard orientation are set up to make the driver feel connected to the car.

Term

cockpit

In this context, “cockpit” just means the driver’s area inside the car. The speaker is saying it feels like a race car because everything is positioned around you.

Term

2j

“2J” is a nickname for a specific Toyota engine used in some JDM cars. The speaker is comparing how that engine feels when you accelerate compared with another engine type.

Term

RB

“RB” refers to a Nissan engine family that’s popular in JDM cars. The speaker likes how this engine’s power comes on more smoothly than the Toyota engine they’re comparing it to.

Term

linear power under the curve

This means the car’s acceleration feels smooth and steady as you add throttle. Instead of feeling like power suddenly hits you, it ramps up in a more predictable way.

Term

bucking Bronco

It’s a comparison to a wild horse that bucks—meaning the car feels like it’s jumping or jerking when you accelerate. The speaker is describing a rougher, more dramatic acceleration feel.

Car

Ford Bronco

The Ford Bronco is an SUV designed to handle rough roads and trails. In this discussion, it’s being described as feeling like it jumps forward when you accelerate. That can make it feel like you have to hold on while driving straight.

Term

losing control

This means the car is starting to act like it might not stay stable—like the tires can’t grip as well as you’re asking. It’s the line between fun acceleration and getting into trouble.

Car

Acura NSX

The Acura NSX is a supercar with a layout designed around the driver. Here, they’re talking about how the dashboard shape and positioning make you feel more “in” the car and comfortable behind the wheel.

Car

Mazda RX 7

The Mazda RX-7 is a well-known Japanese sports car. Here they’re comparing how the RX-7’s dashboard and seating position feel compared to other cars—basically how “close” and natural it feels when you’re driving.

Car

Honda NSX

The Honda NSX is a sports car made for performance and handling. The host is pointing out the car’s design, especially the way the body shape slopes. That’s part of what makes it stand out visually and feel special to drive.

Car

Toyota Supra

The Toyota Supra is a performance sports coupe known for its strong driver engagement and tuning culture. In this segment, it’s used as a comparison point for cockpit ergonomics—specifically how tucked-in the driver feels versus other cars like the NSX and Z.

Car

Nissan 300 ZX

The Nissan 300 ZX is a well-known Z-car. Here they’re saying it feels like you sit lower, and that affects how your body fits in the seat compared to other cars.

Term

F1 seat

An “F1 seat” is the kind of seating you see in Formula 1 cars. It’s designed so your knees are higher and your body sits in a very specific, low-and-rearward position—something the speaker says these cars mimic.

Car

Toyota MR2 (second-gen)

The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car with an engine placed toward the middle. They’re talking about the second generation specifically, saying it feels like the cabin surrounds you and makes the car feel tighter and more driver-focused.

Term

digital dash era

“Digital dash era” just means the time period when car dashboards looked more like screens and digital displays. The host is pointing to the classic late-80s/90s Japanese look.

Term

1j powered

“1J powered” means the car has a Toyota 1JZ-type engine in it. It’s a popular engine in the JDM world, especially for swaps and turbo builds.

Term

2j swap

A “2J swap” means putting a Toyota 2JZ-type engine into a car that didn’t originally have it. The host is describing a customer’s modification to make the car faster or different-feeling.

Term

turbo conversion

A “turbo conversion” means turning a non-turbo engine into a turbo setup. It usually involves adding the turbo hardware and making the engine work with boost.

Term

turbo head

A “turbo head” means using the cylinder head designed for a turbo engine. The host is saying the head choice can affect how the engine is supplied with oil and how well the turbo build works.

Term

oil squirters

“Oil squirters” are little oil jets inside the engine that spray oil where it’s needed most. The host is saying the correct setup helps keep the engine properly lubricated under boost.

Term

GTE head

A “GTE head” is a turbo-oriented cylinder head variant. The host is saying people sometimes match a turbo head with a non-turbo block so the engine gets the right oiling features for a turbo build.

Term

GE block

A “GE block” is the engine block from a naturally aspirated version. The host is saying that when you build a turbo car, you often have to choose the right head to go with that block so the oiling works correctly.

Term

timing belt

A “timing belt” is a belt inside the engine that keeps the engine’s timing correct. If it’s not replaced on schedule, it can cause serious engine damage.

Term

peaky power

“Peaky power” means the car feels like it makes most of its power only in a narrow band of engine speed. The host is saying one setup feels sharper, while the other feels smoother and easier to drive.

Term

smaller turbo

A “smaller turbo” usually comes up to boost quicker, so the car can feel more responsive at everyday speeds. The host is saying that’s why it doesn’t feel as sharp and sudden as the Supra’s setup.

Term

thousand horsepower

“Thousand horsepower” means the car is claimed to make around 1,000 horsepower or more. It’s a way people brag about how powerful a car is.

Term

under the hood

“Under the hood” means the engine area of the car. When people ask that, they’re basically asking what kind of engine or performance parts the car has.

Car

BMW M3

The BMW M3 is a fast, performance-focused version of BMW’s 3 Series. The podcast is saying that some model years don’t feel as powerful as others. So the way it accelerates can change depending on which year you have.

Car

Ford Mustang

The Ford Mustang is a sports car that many people buy for performance and driving fun. In the podcast, it’s brought up because the speaker had friends who liked Mustangs. It’s also part of their story about what cars they owned over time.

Car

Subaru WRX

The WRX is a Subaru that’s known for having a turbo engine and all-wheel drive. People like it because it feels sporty and handles well. The speaker is using it as an example of what his friends were into.

Car

Evo 8

The Evo 8 is a Mitsubishi performance car with a turbo engine and all-wheel drive. It’s popular with enthusiasts and has lots of upgrade parts. The host brings it up to show he chose a different car than his friends.

Term

drifting

Drifting is when a driver makes the car slide sideways through a turn on purpose. It takes skill to keep the car under control while the tires lose grip. The host is talking about which cars were (in his view) suited for that.

Car

G 37

The Infiniti G37 is a sporty Infiniti model with a V6 engine. The host says he bought it because he liked how it felt mechanically and because it had all-wheel drive. Later, it became popular in a way he didn’t expect.

Term

all-wheel drive

All-wheel drive means the car can send power to all four tires. That helps it grip the road better, especially in bad weather. The host says AWD was part of why he picked his car.

Car

Civic

The Honda Civic is a popular, affordable Honda. The point here is that even if people criticize it, it’s still a Civic—and because it’s common and inexpensive, it’s easy to modify using parts from other cars.

Term

entry-level vehicle

An entry-level vehicle is the cheaper, basic version of a car model. People often start with these because they cost less, so it’s easier to tinker with them.

Term

Legos

He’s comparing the car to building blocks. The idea is that you can take off parts and add other parts to change how the car works or feels.

LIVE

So I saw Vinny 10 his his event did pretty well recently. Yeah, actually, so I was down there with the kids

I went to check it out. I got back from Formula D and I made my way over there the next morning for for like a half hour

You're the car the total car weekend, huh? Yeah, no, I was I was completely carred out to be honest with you

It was a good time though. It was a good way to spend Father's Day

Was checking it out that there is one thing that I just

That I can't kind of wrap my head around

So we get there and I'm looking and there's there's a GTT R34 parked on the side of Sunrise Highway

And then we're walking up further and I keep seeing more and more R34s

And I'm like wow like this is the most R34s. I've kind of seen in one concentrated spot

They're everywhere now, right and there's common now

Yeah, it's starting to become like wow like this car that we spent so long like oh my god when it gets here

it's gonna be such a you know a crazy thing like everyone's gonna be blown away and

I feel like it's come and

the people that

Knew what the car was before God here didn't really go crazy

Me for instance, I think they're cool cars. I love the R34

I wear a shirt that has one on it, you know once a week probably if not more don't tell anyone but honestly like

there's

Something that I think the pop culture aspect of it outweighed what the car actually was

and

You know not to not to bash the car, you know, they're great cars. I've worked on I worked on one myself and they're

They're cool

But there's so many other cars that these guys could be going after and bringing in that

That are gonna stand out more so or not as is to stand out more so but just are are different, you know, I am

So you think like maybe because of the it's so it's so hyped

Overhyped that people are just cleaning on to because it's like well, that's that's the thing to have like, you know

Travis Scott mentioned it in a song like it's got so much hype behind it that that pushes people toward

Yeah, you didn't that specific model

I feel like that and I feel like it's kind of taking away from the car also in a little bit because people are kind of getting

Underwhelmed by it. I heard recently on another podcast gentlemen talking about how he

helps find clients cars and

They end up getting these cars that were these, you know, completely stock like for instance em1 civics and

Okay, I saw this I know you're talking about yeah, and and they're underwhelmed by the performance of the vehicle not realizing that they bought in 90s

Commuter car like it's a 90s civic. I mean at the end of the day the SI yet

It's a little bit more performance oriented, but it wasn't like a type R civic is today

Even if you got that type R. It's not the same performance that you're getting out of them

Yeah, yeah, you think like a like it like that at that time

The SI like the em1 SI was such a like a performer for for the brand, right? It's like a 160 horsepower

It's probably got like a hundred and ten foot pounds or pounds pound feet of torque

But then you know these guys that probably are driving like a nice beamer or something that has you know

Tons of torque and horsepower and it's all comfortable to jump into this car and it's creaking and making noises and you know

It's probably not the most comfortable thing to be in and it feels like very cramped and stuff

So I think there is definitely a bit of nostalgia that's sort of like clouds out a little bit, right?

Because true it depends on the I think it depends on the person though too because if you're like

You know if you're a diehard if you're kind of a you know a nerd, right?

Like I would like to have some of the older older Honda's that's what I'm used to if you know looking back now

I think I can appreciate it for what is or what it was

But also I'm real big on like doing engine swaps and you know upgrades and turbos and stuff like that

So for me, I would not be able to just cruise that car on the weekends with you know what it has stock

I would get you know really really bored personally. Yeah, and I think that I get I get we're coming from I think that

That's what's really cool about the older cars also that that Lego brick aspect where you can kind of make your own thing out of it

It gets a lot harder as far as getting newer and and we've I think we've alluded to that to that in the past

But I think also part of the thing that I'm kind of hung up on is

Everyone's going after the R34 and and and they're bringing in cool examples

And then there's some that are just not I'm like why did this even make it onto a container ship?

But that's besides the point

The bigger problem I have is like there's other cool JDM cars like actual JDM cars

I'm not talking like JDM in the colloquial term that we use it in the US as it's made by a Japanese manufacturer

There are actual cars that we don't talk about that are let's say underhyped

That

We don't we don't get to talk about as much or don't get the airtime that the skylines the Z is those cars get

and

One of them is kind of a guilty pleasure and I and at that show there was two s15s that were there

And I got to tell you they broke my neck

Instantly compared to I'm walking past the midnight purple r33 GTR awesome. I

Stopped and actually appreciated

The s15 and I think it comes down to yet again. It yeah, it's not the most prestigious car that they had

But it was so far removed from the 240 that we got here in

Looks and huge difference. Yeah, it's so much more

It was so much cooler. Let's say like, you know, even even if you had a zanky or a kooky s14

They were cool

but if you had a

Everyone put a s15 front on it for a reason nobody nobody was like

Ah, I'm gonna keep my headlights because those are cooler

Everyone went to a Sylvia front end because the Sylvia was a cooler vehicle. It looked better

You know at the end of the day it was still a SR and all that and and we can make arguments till we're blue in the face

whether

It's worth it to get one because it has an SR in it and then you have to do all this to make that start better

but like

Let's be honest just as a as a clean platform and and to bring something in to the US

I feel like the s15 or even a 180 sx or a Salady, you know

If you can find one and actually I was looking of course because we were talking about this

I I definitely was looking at them before and you can find a couple of them and

Getting a 180 sx like a

97 98 180 sx to me is pretty cool also because

it's the

Subversion of expectations like you're gonna walk on be like oh, it's a 240 with a body kit and then it's actually a 180 sx

I find that really cool. I find the fact that you could get a 180 sx type X and have

the

you know premier model of

What the hatchback 240s were, you know, we we never got that level here in the United States

like you got the se you got a wiper blade on the back a spoiler and

That was it, you know, you're good to go. It's the se mod. Oh, and you got a five look

I'm sorry versus a four look but but that was what you got versus this thing

Which is a completely completely different animal to what the se 240s were here

You know, I think probably nostalgia plays a part in that for you as well

Like having come from where you've come from and and dealt with the types of cars and working on a shop and things like that

So for you that that vehicle is such a step away from what we got here

It makes it special, right? So maybe you jump into that car. Maybe you don't have the experience

You have somebody introduces you to a 180 sx you jump into it and you're like, oh, it's cool. It's right-hand drive

You get on the throttle and like, oh, okay. It's it's cool. You know, it's it's all right

It doesn't have a ton of power, right from the from the factory

There's something you would hop up you, you know, you do your upgrades and stuff like that

so I think kind of falls in that same category but with the your r34 reference a little bit different because like you said

There is so much focus on that from the TV. I'm sorry from the movie series from

You know, even like I said before rappers and like it's such a

video games have had a big part in it, too

Every every video game Gran Turismo was every every single one of them the r34 has been at one

Yep, has always been that you've kind of looked at as as the one to go after so I get where you're coming from a hundred percent

Yeah

Now now so here's the question if the if I feel that the r34 is overrated

and for those reasons I

Feel like the mark five mark four. Um, geez let me butcher that again. I

Feel like the mark four might be following to that same category

Yeah, I would agree

man, like I

Definitely liked r34. I love it. I love the mark for super. I think it's an icon

For this industry and it has been you know since since the 90s

I do think though the first time that I drove one was like, I don't know maybe like mid 90s a

Friend of a friend

Had had just purchased one. It was like low miles

I think he just had a boost controller and like a filter or something

It was it was relatively stock and he was really cool. He let me drive it and I drove it

I was like man

Compared to what I was driving this thing's a rocket ship. It was so fast

but

The long hood and just the weight of the car overall the heft of it

It didn't really appeal to me and I didn't really get what was such why everyone was was hyping it up so much

I didn't really get it

He turned that car into like a real

competitive drag car

That makes sense to me because that you know, that's not what it was designed for it's a grand tour

But you know, obviously there's a ton of drag ones out there that there has been forever

I just didn't get like the the feel of it

It didn't feel right to me. It just felt really really boaty

It was you know, I said the long hood line kind of threw me off a little bit

But everyone you know, everyone praise that car is the greatest thing ever

The engine obviously is the selling point for that thing that that's like the key thing, right?

And I think excuse me at that time

Doing a two Jay-Z swap into anything wasn't really it wasn't really commonplace

It wasn't really done at that time at least you know, at least where I was

I'm sure in Australia was they were already doing that stuff, but

But you know in Japan stuff, but it just that was like the selling point for it

But I feel like like the R34 like you mentioned it's been so hyped over the years. It's kind of like the crown jewel. I

Don't know when you actually get into one

I don't know if it's the same feeling and I know there's like die-hards out there that that you know

Live and die by the mark for I totally get it like, you know, everyone has their thing

It just for me it didn't really

It didn't really appeal to me as like a definitive sports car for that era

I felt like there was better feeling sports cars and I'll give an example like an FDR

X7 and I know, you know, rotary versus, you know, pissed and all that stuff

But I'm just seeing from from being behind the wheel and actually driving that vehicle

The way everything's laid out everything the way it's set up

It felt really really sporty to me like a timeless sports car

And even today if I if I hop inside one of those of you know, a friend's car or something

It still feels like a real sports car like it feels like very driver centric

You're in a cockpit like everything's kind of surrounding you the shifter all the placement of everything is perfect to me

In my opinion for I think Mazda did an incredible job at that and I think that that car so many years later

It's still one of the best experiences from behind the wheel regardless if you like the engine you hate the engine or whatever

So that I think that would be a good example

Another one of course in a sex I think in terms of like just the feel

The layout and I know it's you know, it's it's the engine's behind you

But just the feel of the cockpit on that one. I think it's the same. It's it's very driver centric

It feels very very sporty and you feel like you're transformed into

You know like a race car driver even even on the street, you know arguably the mark for it

It does feel very fighter cockpity

But it feels like you're about to start recreating the Tomcat

Catapult launch scene where you're holding on because that's what those cars are

It's like you're loading up for the jet engine to take off and then it goes

I've never been a big fan of the way that the 2j brings power in I I do prefer the RB

That's why I was always an RB guy. I like that linear power under the curve straight line type of power. I

I feel like the Supra comes on hard and

You're holding on to a bucking Bronco as it's going straight straight line down the road

Hope maybe that's maybe that's the fun of it for guys that hop really put a lot of power into that's the fun

It's like almost on the verge of losing control

But kind of you know in control and fully get it and again and again as far as like being behind the wheel

You're right. It's like a cockpit. It's very driver centric as well like 90 sports cars

But I feel like the layout the dash feels very far away for me

Oh, yeah, no, it's very fighter cock. You're back in a cockpit. Like that's what I'm saying

It's not that you're it's like the depth of field is wrong for like where where everything for me

Yeah, no, I

The center stack also it feels awkward to me

I really like the way that the NSX has that slope on it. The RX 7 is a little bit flatter, but it has that that perfect

Shift replacement and where your arm sits

I also feel like a little more tucked in in those vehicles as compared to the Supra

Well, that's the same thing with the Z with the 300 ZX you sit lower

I feel like in that car you have that same with the NSX where you have that that

That slight I don't want to say recline

But that that lower profile almost like the F1 seat where your knees are up higher, but your butt is lower like that kind of

Yeah, yeah, that's a tilt. Yep

Yeah, I think the other one

Excuse me that I would add to that that kind of the category of like cars

It's sort of have a better feel to them at least from behind the wheel the MR2

Excuse me the second-gen MR2 that one too feels like it kind of wraps around you

Overall, it feels like a smaller vehicle

Yeah, it probably is compared to those others, but

but it does feel like you're really kind of wrapped in there and

I know I like the feel of that one

I think Toyota did a great job on the on the cockpit of that one

So to get a little bit slightly still in that Toyota wheelhouse, I know we're kind of leaning on the cockpits

one that doesn't get talked about as far as JDM ones is the

Toyota Sora and that actually has it still has like a normal luxury car

But we're getting back to that that 90s 2000 or 80s 90s digital dash era

So it's really cool as you could get so a 1j powered

You know

Sport luxury touring car, I guess you would want to call it sport luxury tour and

It had some cool bells and whistles

I actually so me personally if I had to choose between the mark for and the sore

I think I would actually lean to the sore and I know it's sacrilege

But there was something very cool

I had a customer that had a 2j swap in there

Well, I guess it came with a non-turbo and they did a turbo conversion or something along the lines

I don't know if they just did a turbo head. I don't know what they did

But by the time it doesn't do the head right the head and I'll be honest

I think there's something like yeah

They do a GTE head on a GE block or something like that because yeah, it does it gets her to oil squirters

You don't have oil pressure issues. I don't know once again

It's a little outside my wheelhouse because I really don't do Toyotas like that and I never put the time in to learn it

But that being said I did like a timing belt on his car, you know that that stuff was just standard maintenance and

It was a really fun car to drive like I gotta tell you I got behind the wheel and I drove it

You know smaller turbo didn't have that same peaky power that I got out of the Supra

Which I'm sure is just the way that the the tuning was on the engine and the turbo setup and so on so forth

But and he was a lot lower power level. I think he was only in like the four or five hundredth range

So it was like that perfect driving feel versus getting behind the wheel

I the only Supra mark for that. I've even been in was a

Thousand horsepower quote-unquote, you know all bells and whistles take me for a rip down the road type situation

So I am speaking a little bit from the passenger seat on that instance

But as far as the Sora getting to drive that was a real treat

And I think I would I would definitely take one of those again

Get you know, I would definitely take one of those over the mark for just it's also got a slightly lower profile

You know you you pull in not as many people are gonna be running up to see what it is

You know that yeah, I meant if you if you haven't worked for super

I mean you even go anywhere without getting mobbed because it feels like you go to a gas station and people are gonna be all over you like

Bro, you know, what's under the hood? Yeah, you know to me

Everything has one of them, right? Yeah, they all yeah cuz they all come with a thousand

You know, but I feel like if you if you want to fly into the radar

Like let the car you mentioned the Sora be a good one because people would you know, they probably would

Maybe take a closer look at this to you getting out of the right side

But overall, let's hear in the know you're probably not gonna be that interested in if you're just an average Joe

You know what I mean? Yeah, and most people are gonna be like oh

It's the less this is 300 or C 400 and they're just gonna keep on with their day

And the people that are in the know that and that's kind of where I am with that this whole idea of what I was talking about

It's like I don't necessarily want the most flashy car like I don't care about that

I want the guys that that care about cars to be the ones that I'm having the conversation with

So I don't you know, and I want to be able to to enjoy a

platform that

isn't just being you know, I

Want to be able to enjoy a platform that that isn't overexposed, you know or or isn't

Is in mobbed every time it goes to the gas station, you know that that to me just takes a you know

It takes away something from it like I feel like it's just a you're doing it

Maybe for the wrong reason. I'm not saying everyone is I'm sure there's a lot of people that were like hey

I played it on video games. I always wanted this car. I bought this car

This is my dream car, which is fine

And those are not the people that I'm talking about in this instance because those are the people

That aren't on the hype train

Those are the people that aren't gonna turn around and sell it in a year because it didn't have the same power as the g80

You know, that's the difference and so is that that that's that's older mature Nick

But what about 18 year old Nick would he what he felt differently and be like if I get this man

Everyone's gonna be they're gonna know I'm the guy. So the problem was is I've never really been like every time one of my friend like so I

Had friends that originally went they were all Mustang guys. I got an Nissan and that's when I got my 240

You know, I you know a bunch of my friends were

Into WRX's and STI's I got the Evo 8 like I'm always trying to get the car that is

Opposite of my of like I guess trend or social group or whatever. I'm always like the outlier

I you know, even when it comes to the Z like all my friends were into 240s doing drifting all that and I bought a Z

G32

Worst car for drifting imaginable

You know, so all your all your friends got your rings. You got a belly button piercing. I understand about right

Yeah, yeah, no, actually I got a tramp stamp. It was even worse. It was right

But but I've always had like that counterculture

I guess aspect to it like I always try to not have what everyone else has and it's really funny because I had the G 37 for

13 years now and it's really hilarious because it became the trendy car

I guess you could say for a while there and or the trendy one to bash on and it's just funny because I

Didn't get it for that reason. I got it because I liked the engine and it was all-wheel drive

So I was like, oh, that's perfect

I didn't know that it eventually it would become the car that that kind of took over tick-tock for all the wrong reasons there for a

Little bit. It's weird how that stuff happens

Like this cars is kind of like take on a personality, right?

Like for how many years have like the Civic been crapped on because you know probably should be because there's you know

It's a cheap entry-level vehicle that some of us put way too much time and way too much money

Into and and you know, they always what do they they always say, right at the end of the day

It's still a civic you're right

It is still a civic and that's why we love them so much because they're affordable and they're and they're disposable

And I can take parts off of five other models and apply to this vehicle and improve it like that

That's it's Legos, right? So you kind of have to look at it

Big picture so to speak right because if you were to be like, well, man, you know

These G's are always on tick-tock now and everyone's making fun of them. I'm not gonna I don't want to try this thing anymore

That's you kind of doing it for the wrong reasons, right?

And I think that that's what you were kind of alluding to earlier is there a large group of people that have the have the

means to

Purchase an R34 or a mark for super or something, you know high profile at that and they do it because

That's the thing to do or is it because they have you know, like you said, maybe they played Gran Turismo all those years

They're like man one day what I you know become a lawyer

Well, you know, whatever it is

I'm gonna get that money and I'm gonna I'm gonna get what I want to get and I'm gonna make it exactly the way

I want to make it and I think there's there's a little bit of both that goes for every every car group

Oh, yeah, from, you know, honnet to it and he's doesn't matter

And there's always gonna be it's that way. I think yeah, so and it's the same thing with like

People are good in getting like whatever the hottest shoe is right now, you know, or how do you always get back on shoes?

I know I'm not even a shoe guy, but

But it's a good example because you know people will buy, you know, whatever new donkeys out or or Jordan or whatever

And it's the same shoe. It's just but anyways, it just seems like that

That's kind of a gateway to that same mentality and I think that's it's always been that way

It's probably always gonna be that way. We see it now at the World Cup, right?

How many people do you see out there right now wearing a messy shirt that have probably never followed soccer or football?

I'm glad to say that any time I do ask they're like you're watching I'm like I'm watching the highlights

That's the most I do with soccer is watch highlights. I can't I can't devote myself

Besides watching it on the weekends when Grayson plays I cannot I can't devote extra time to watching the professional

So I watch some highlights. That's what I'll do. Yeah. Yeah, I know if I mean like for me like I'm heavily into that world

Right, like I love the sport. So for me

You know when I go like drop off my son at his his his camp right now a soccer camp everyone's wearing messy shirts

There's like 75% of the wearing messy outfits and I'm like that's probably all they know because there's kids

You know and they see the highlights on tick-tock and you know messes

You know messes messy so that that's kind of like what they do and you know, they don't know

Maybe when they get older and they actually start watching more they'll realize oh, maybe my favorite player isn't him

Maybe it's this guy over here from you know from this country or from this team

But it would be good. So yeah, I don't know. I like to hear from people if you can comment below

Let us know

Are there some vehicles that you also feel are way overhyped?

because of the video games and the

The music and and the movies and all that stuff and there's better alternatives or do you feel like it's justified?

Those vehicles deserve to be at the point that they are and the people that are getting them really one of those cars

I'd like to know

So you got Nick. Yeah, that's all I got man. Catch on. All right. We'll catch you on the next one

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