A splitter is a low front add-on on a race car that helps it stay planted. If it’s too low and the ground is uneven, it can scrape or tear things underneath the car.
Term
undertrend
They’re talking about the car’s bottom panel area. If it gets ripped off, the car can lose its aerodynamic “smooth bottom” and can also get damaged underneath.
They’re talking about a NASCAR Truck Series event at Watkins Glen and what the racing lines looked like. It leads into a discussion about how drivers use the track.
Track limits are the rules about how far you’re allowed to go on the track. If people can go outside the marked area without penalties, they can take faster shortcuts.
The Nissan GT-R is a high-performance sports car. It has an aggressive front design, including parts like a front splitter that help it look and perform more like a race car. The podcast is pointing out those features while talking about the car.
The Toyota Supra is a well-known performance sports car. Here it’s just being used as a comparison to describe how low and sharp the truck’s front looks.
Camber is how a tire is tilted. Negative camber means the tire leans inward at the top, which can help the tire grip better when the vehicle is turning.
A three-row midsize SUV is a family car with extra seating in the back. It’s usually heavier than smaller SUVs, so it can feel less quick when you’re trying to accelerate or drive aggressively.
The Tahoe is a large SUV that can seat three rows of passengers. People talk about it because it’s meant for carrying a lot of people and gear comfortably. It’s the kind of vehicle you’d use for road trips or family trips.
Downshifting is when the car drops to a lower gear so the engine can speed up for more power. The host is saying the Acadia needs to do this a lot to keep up.
This means the Acadia uses a 4-cylinder engine with a turbo to help it make more power. The host is saying that, because the SUV is so heavy, the engine still doesn’t feel strong enough in real driving.
Paddle shifters are little levers on the steering wheel that let you tell the car to change gears. They’re meant to give you more control, especially when you want quicker response.
The BMW M5 is a fast version of a BMW sedan. It’s made for drivers who want strong acceleration but still want a comfortable car for longer trips. The podcast is highlighting it as a practical road-trip option.
A dual carriageway is a road with separated lanes for each direction, usually with a divider in the middle. It affects how much room there is to swerve or change lanes to avoid a crash.
The “moose test” is a common safety test idea: you suddenly swerve to avoid something in the road and then steer back. It’s basically a way to see how well the car handles a fast, scary avoidance move.
A brake check is when someone taps or slams the brakes on purpose to make the car behind slow down. It’s risky because the driver behind might not be able to stop quickly enough.
Double yellow lines usually mean you’re not supposed to pass there. The hosts are talking about people trying to overtake anyway, which is risky because you can’t always see what’s coming.
“Blind corners” are turns where you can’t clearly see oncoming traffic or the road ahead until you’re already committed to the turn. That makes any aggressive passing or late braking especially dangerous because drivers have less time to react.
The Toyota Camry is a common everyday sedan. The hosts are listing it as one of the regular cars people drive while doing the risky stuff they’re talking about.
ZF is a company that makes car transmissions. Here they’re talking about an eight-speed transmission and a software trick that can change how it shifts.
They’re describing an aftermarket trick that changes how the transmission’s computer behaves. It’s usually done through electronics/software rather than replacing major parts.
An “on-demand manual” means you can make an automatic transmission act more like a manual when you want to. Instead of the car choosing shifts, you can force the gear changes.
ZF is a company that makes transmissions. In this story, a ZF automatic gearbox is being modified so it can act more like it has a clutch pedal, even though it’s still an automatic underneath.
In an automatic transmission, the torque converter is like a fluid-based connector between the engine and the transmission. It helps the car start moving smoothly without you needing a clutch pedal.
Inside an automatic transmission, a clutch pack is a set of friction parts that can lock and unlock to change gears. This “fake clutch” idea targets those internal clutch packs to mimic manual-style behavior.
A clutch kick is when you quickly let the clutch out to make the car lose traction on purpose. Drifters use it to help the car start sliding and turning.
Swap kits are packaged components and instructions used to install a drivetrain or major component into a different vehicle than it originally came with. In this context, the kit is used to put an 8HP gearbox into other cars and control it with an aftermarket controller.
Turbo lamik is a company/software setup mentioned here that helps control an automatic transmission. The host says it can add features that make an 8-speed automatic behave more like a drift-focused setup.
Launch mode is a setting that helps the car get moving more effectively from a stop. It usually changes how the transmission and engine manage power so you get better launches and less wheelspin.
Virtual clutch control is software that makes an automatic transmission act more like it has a clutch. That can enable drift-style clutch-kick behavior without converting the whole car to a manual.
ZF 8-speed means a transmission with eight gears made by ZF. It’s popular for swaps because it’s modern and can be controlled electronically to work with different setups.
A DCT clutch simulator remote is a gadget that tricks the car into acting like the clutch is being pressed. It’s used to do clutch-kick style moves without adding a real clutch pedal.
Porsche is mentioned because the company has done something similar on some GT cars with dual-clutch transmissions. They’re using the car’s controls to trigger clutch-like actions.
Drifting is when a driver intentionally drives with the car angled sideways while still controlling it. The hosts are saying clutch-kick timing can be tougher during that kind of driving.
A sequential transmission is a racing-style gearbox. Instead of moving a shifter to different slots, you basically go to the next or previous gear in order.
A “ZF eight-speed swap” means putting a modern 8-speed gearbox from ZF into a different car. It can make an older car drive better, but it’s not a simple bolt-in job.
The BMW E30 is an older BMW 3 Series that people love to modify. In this segment, it’s mentioned in connection with a crazy swap build for hillclimbing.
2JZ (often referring to the Toyota 2JZ-GTE) is a legendary Toyota inline-six engine known for its strength and tuning potential. In this segment, it’s paired with a BMW DCT inside a BMW E30, which is a notable example of cross-brand drivetrain engineering.
A wide-body is a body modification where fenders and wheel arches are widened to fit larger tires and improve stance and clearance. It’s commonly used on drift and hillclimb builds to allow more tire grip and better control during aggressive driving.
A “swap” is when someone replaces a car’s original drivetrain parts with different ones. In this context, they’re talking about swapping transmissions into other cars.
The Challenger is a performance coupe made by Dodge. It’s known for having very powerful versions, including models that are built for maximum speed and acceleration. The podcast is talking about that kind of power and what people expect from it.
A final gear swap changes the rear gearing that affects how the car accelerates. It can make the car feel punchier, but it can also make you shift more often, which may slow you down if the engine isn’t in its best RPM range.
The Honda S2000 is a small sports car designed to be fun to drive. It’s known for revving high and feeling responsive. The podcast is talking about changing the gearing so it can feel better for acceleration or highway speed.
Final drive ratio is the rear-gear setting that changes how the car’s speed and engine RPM relate. If you change it, the car can rev higher sooner, which changes how the whole gearbox feels.
A gear set is the set of different gear ratios inside the transmission. Different gear sets can change how the car pulls in each gear and whether you have to shift a lot.
Gear ratios are how the transmission “multiplies” the engine’s speed to the wheels. If you change them, the car can feel like it accelerates and shifts more the way you want.
Gearing is how the car’s drivetrain is “set up” to match engine speed to road speed. The right gearing helps the engine stay in the power band when you drive hard.
A light flywheel is a lighter part connected to the engine that helps the engine speed up and slow down faster. That usually makes the car feel more responsive when you press the gas.
Sound deadening is stuff added to the car to keep noise from getting into the cabin. If you remove or reduce it, you’ll hear more engine and exhaust sound.
Concept
sliding doors on an SUV
Sliding doors are common on minivans because they’re easier to use in tight spots. The discussion here is about why SUVs don’t usually get them—more about how they’re perceived than how useful they are.
Ingress/egress just means getting in and getting out. They’re saying the sliding rear door makes it easier to reach the back seat and move things in and out.
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric van. It’s designed to be roomy like a bus, but powered by electricity. The podcast is saying it didn’t work out for what they wanted.
MPV means a multi-purpose vehicle—usually built to carry people comfortably and handle lots of everyday use. They often have sliding doors to make getting in and out easier.
Power reserve indication tells you how much “charge” is left in the watch. It helps you know when it’s getting low so you don’t run out of timekeeping.
A perpetual calendar is a watch feature that keeps the date correct automatically. It handles things like different month lengths and leap years so you don’t have to keep adjusting it.
They’re talking about which newer cars under $50,000 have the best sound. Then they explain that the engine’s intake/exhaust setup is a big reason why.
The Ford Mustang GT is a sporty Mustang with a more performance-oriented engine. Here, they’re basically saying it sounds good compared to a lot of other cars in the same price range.
The Ford Mustang GTD is a very performance-focused version of the Mustang. It’s meant to be faster and more track-oriented than regular Mustangs. The podcast is mentioning it while talking about which Mustangs are worth considering for performance and cost.
The Dodge Challenger is a two-door performance car. It’s made to be fast and to look like a traditional muscle car. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as another option in the same performance category.
The Dodge Charger is a car that’s designed to feel powerful and exciting to drive. It’s a sedan, but it’s built with performance in mind. The podcast brings it up when comparing it to other similar muscle cars.
The Toyota GR Corolla is a sporty Toyota hatchback. In this discussion, they’re saying it sounds good for the money, and that tuning/intake choices can make a big difference.
The Honda Civic Type R is the sporty, performance-focused Civic. They’re mentioning it because it has a good-sounding engine note compared with many other cars under $50k.
“ITB’s” are individual throttle bodies—separate air valves for each cylinder. They can make an engine sound more exciting and feel more responsive, but most normal stock cars don’t come with them.
“Induction” here means the air-intake path that feeds the engine. If you change the intake (like adding an intake), it can change the sound you hear from the engine bay.
Lift-off oversteer is when you let off the gas and the back of the car starts to swing outward. It’s caused by the car shifting weight and the tires losing grip in a different way than before.
The Ford GT 350 is a special, track-oriented version of the Mustang. Here they’re talking about it as a car whose price is rising fast, especially for low-mile examples.
Residual value is basically how much the car is worth after you’ve owned it for a while. They’re saying some cars can hold their value well, so buying them isn’t as risky as it sounds.
The Audi S8 is Audi’s big, upscale sedan in a higher-performance trim. In this discussion, the host is basically warning that replacement parts may become harder to find for a 2017 model.
The Alpina B7 is a BMW 7 Series that’s been tuned and upgraded by Alpina to feel more performance-focused. The host is comparing it to other German sedans and saying the Porsche is the better pick.
The Porsche Panamera Turbo S is a fast, performance-focused luxury sedan from Porsche. The host is saying that, compared with other expensive German sedans, it drives better and feels more solid as a used buy.
The Honda CR-Z is a small sporty-looking hybrid hatchback. Someone asks if it’s underrated, and the host says it was boring when new and still hasn’t changed much.
The Mazda Miata is a small, light sports car that’s famous for being fun to drive. Here, it’s mentioned as the speaker’s own car to compare against other cars they were given to drive.
A hybrid uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. The speaker is saying that, in this case, the hybrid setup didn’t make the car feel any better or faster.
The Honda CRX is a small Honda that people often associate with a sporty, lightweight look. In this clip, it’s used as a reference point for how another car was styled.
The Honda Insight is a Honda hybrid, known for trying to be efficient. The speaker is basically saying the car ended up looking like an Insight instead of the sporty CRX vibe.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a popular American sports car with a long history. Here, they’re talking about redesign ideas—making it smaller but keeping the engine.
“Retro-future” means making something look like the past, but with modern updates. In this case, they’re talking about designing cars that feel inspired by older muscle cars, but built with today’s sensibilities.
The C7 Corvette is a specific generation of the Chevrolet Corvette. They’re using it as a comparison for a design direction: something that feels like a Corvette, but with a smaller, more muscle-car vibe and seating for four.
A facelift is a mid-cycle refresh of a car. It can change the look, and sometimes the driving setup too, which is why the hosts are comparing the updated RS3 to the earlier one.
The Audi RS 3 is a fast, performance-focused version of a compact Audi. It’s meant to be quick and fun to drive, not just comfortable. The podcast is referencing a review of the updated (facelift) version.
“Rear diff” is short for the rear differential, a gearbox component that lets the left and right rear wheels rotate at different speeds. Its tuning (how it manages torque split and locking behavior) can strongly influence traction, cornering feel, and how the car responds when you accelerate out of turns.
It means the tires start slipping because they can’t grip the road anymore. On a track, it usually happens when you turn or accelerate harder than the tires can handle.
A “slide” is when the car starts moving sideways because the tires aren’t gripping as well. The car’s response can feel consistent or inconsistent depending on the drivetrain and traction setup.
It means the car constantly changes how much power it sends to different wheels. The goal is to keep traction and stability, especially when grip changes.
They mention a Ferrari model name that sounds like “Luce,” but the key point is the allocation strategy. The idea is that some buyers have to buy one Ferrari just to get the one they really want.
The Ferrari 296 is a mid-engine Ferrari with a modern power setup that includes an electric assist. The hosts are basically saying it’s the most desirable current choice.
The BMW M3 is a high-performance BMW made for driving enthusiasts. It’s meant to handle well and feel quick. The podcast is discussing which versions they like and whether they’d choose one over other performance BMWs.
Radar cruise control is like regular cruise control, but it can also react to the car in front of you. It uses a sensor to keep a safe distance and adjust your speed automatically.
The Ford GT40 is a famous race car from Ford’s racing history. People talk about it because it was built to win in endurance racing. The podcast is mentioning it as part of a racing story.
The Shelby GT500 is a very powerful muscle car. It’s designed to be fast and exciting, not just a normal daily car. The podcast is talking about how car people rate it compared to other similar performance cars.
A solid axle is a suspension setup where the rear wheels are linked together by one rigid bar. That design can change how the car rides and handles, and the hosts bring it up while comparing different Mustang GT500 years.
Concept
advertised horsepower vs actual output
This segment discusses a situation where cars were not making the horsepower that was advertised, leading to a class action lawsuit. The hosts frame it as an embarrassment for the manufacturer and a promise that future cars would not under-deliver on claimed power.
Independent rear suspension lets each rear wheel react to the road on its own. That usually helps the tires stay in contact with the pavement for better grip and stability.
A live axle connects the rear wheels together, so when one wheel hits a bump, it affects the other. That can make it harder to keep both tires gripping smoothly compared with independent suspension.
A restomod is an older car that gets brought back to good condition, but with modern improvements. The idea is to keep the classic look while making it nicer to drive and more dependable.
A half cage is a partial safety frame inside the car. It’s meant to protect you on track days and stiffen the car, without going all the way to a full cage.
“Bare metal” means the metal underneath is left exposed. They’re debating whether it looks better/worse and whether it should be covered with fabric.
Term
GT3 Club Sport spec
They’re referencing a Porsche GT3 “Club Sport” style setup. The idea is a more track-focused interior that may look simpler because it’s optimized for weight and use on track days.
A “track car” is a car built mainly for driving on a race track. That’s why people make interior changes that might look rougher but help with weight or track use.
The Ford Mustang is a performance car that’s popular with car enthusiasts. People often modify them, including changing the interior or removing parts like the rear seat. The podcast is discussing that kind of customization on different Mustang generations.
Here, “panel” means a piece of the car’s body or interior that helps keep noise from getting into the cabin. If that area isn’t sealed, the car can sound much louder.
The Porsche 911 Turbo is a high-performance version of the 911 that uses turbocharging to make a lot of power. It’s known for being very quick while still being usable day to day.
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I recount my Pacific Northwest road trip and we and we spent an awful lot of time talking about road rage
Zach and I prepare for our Cletus Crown Vic race in Connecticut in July
And we learn that actually an automatic transmission can be a manual it turns out the trends are trans
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Bronson Bronson pinch of yeah Bronson
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Crushed it in the mid 1980s. Yes all cameos all day. Yeah, just yeah, right best supporting
He's probably a leading something. We didn't yeah perfect strangers. Oh
Sitcom yeah, oh, yeah
But but then after that it was just played play Belki with different names his first guess what his first movie ever was ever
Right out the gate coming
Beverly Hills cop risky business. Oh fuck right huge
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That's like that's a career. What is first four his first five movies risky business. Yeah, then the pointer sisters neutron dance
That was probably a video that might have I'd read that part afterwards then Beverly Hills cop
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And a movie called Sarah man, so not quite led Zeppelin levels, but but definitely a strong first showing yeah
Yeah, risky business and second and third album took some work
You know got back into it in the 90s shout out to Bronson pinch. Oh, yeah, love you buddy. Hi everybody. What's happening?
Welcome to the program. It's it's been we I have like so I got some carryover things to talk about from last show
I have some new things. I I've learned
about technology that I like strangely enough and
Dude and we heard from Cleetus is yeah business text this morning got the text. We're in the race
Zach and I are in the what the fuck is the race called? It's a cleanest race. Whatever. It's called in
Connecticut on
July 17th
So you've gots to be out anyone any east coast people you want a new England 900 nine
Is it I hope it's not 900 laps. I will get dizzy. I don't know what 900. What's great question. Yeah
900 laps because it's in the track like
Yeah
450 miles that'd be a long race. I can't can't be right. We gotta start working our necks out
It's not an endurance race the race starts at like 7 30 p.m. Yeah
Snaffer Speedway Stafford Speedway. Yeah
900 cars
It has to be I don't know what it's just it's just made up $900 a car
I don't know there's no info on how long doesn't matter. I'm so excited 7 30 p.m. It so it can only be so long
It's not gonna be a five-hour race. That is true. It's probably like a two-hour race or maybe not even
But that's like that long of a race around a half mile is a lot of turning left. Yeah for your boys here
We don't do that much turning left usually we turn left and then right and there's like a couple more rights
Or then lefts to me and make a clockwise or counterclockwise situation, but there's typically both
Check out this driver's driver's list. Tell me if you know more than two people on it and I say this
It informs me that we might be a little disconnected from the driver's list not that these are no buddies
I think these are all probably they're probably more famous than us. They probably are probably more famous than us for almost for certain
Let's see oh my god bolts and nuts burnout rivals whole deal
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Anyway, oh there wait there was it was there and it went away. Oh, no
Good guys, it's because this is Stafford Speedway's website. Okay, there we go. All right drive quickly
LS George Cleat is firing and
MIG Wilder tie
Greg Biffle that doesn't seem right seems like that may be a little out of date
Because he's no longer with us clutch pack Zach Cameron Johnson Victor Alvarez
boosted boy Kyle
Maybe that's off road recovery. That is the coolest
Such a rad Jim York Ryan
Priests Jackson Jimmy Brad de Bertie Jimmy Oaks Roman at Roman Atwood. I think I know that name
They don't know why but I think I know that name Kevin Smith
KSR jh diesel West it oh Weston Champlin. I know I know him. I've met that guy I in Vegas
Okay, he's he's fucking hysterical. I mean anyone
He's the he's the the big dude who built the like
Semi-truck like the Mad Max underneath all of the things drove through all that shit. Yeah, that's that guy
Whoa, that guy's a fucking. Oh, I can't wait to talk to that guy. What a genius. So yeah, so so too
There's like two people
Three if you include someone who is unfortunately dead and everyone here probably has more oval racing experience than we do
Oh, for sure. Um, this is so excited. Well, like as they say how hard can it be?
You just got to move them around a little bit, right? Is as Kurt Busch said I'm so focused on and slightly terrified
But how many of these people have personally gotten advice from Kurt Busch about how to handle this race
I don't know how many people know that you're allowed to push other cars around and it's totally fine. I
Mean, you know, we've been doing no contact racing for a while. It's about time. We do some contact
Dude, the NASCAR highlights from Watkins Glen like the other trucks
No, no the cars the front-runner race was amazing like very close, but in the backfield
Some guy who's very impatient like runs into the back of a car coming to turn one
He's like get on my way hits that car tries to go around him and then his spotter is going
He's still on your left the guy that same guy who rear-ended someone
Passes that car on the right cuts across left too early and pit maneuvers himself and crashes into the tire wall
In NASCAR top top series top or cup whatever like very legitimate cars
It was very funny this guy's just real impatient and the spotter is going that car's still there
So, you know and the guy tracks way out pit maneuvers himself just road rage
Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, oh, I love it. I love it
He rode raged himself into the wall
Did you watch that the clip I sent in the group chat one guy went off into the into the grass and it was muddy
Yeah, and the splitter was so low
It it dug up all of the sod made a mound and then created a jump that the car then went off itself and
Ripped off the entire undertrend. I did it it I
Don't know if ever before has a race car built its own jump in real time build a jump and then taking the jump right
While building it like there's got to be a fucking Guinness record for that. Yes. This is only done in like
What was the show like go-go gadget inspector gadget?
The car drives it puts a jump in front of itself jumps brings the jump with it
Insane yeah, yeah, absolutely. I didn't you know, it's so funny. I'm so out of touch
I saw on TV on the road trip. I was on with Hannah the truck series the NASCAR truck series
It was on in a bar that Hannah and I were in on this trip and I was like, oh shit
They're at the Glen and I was like look at their fucking lines. They're lines are like insanely wide
You know using all the race
Yeah, as long as if there's tarmac on it fucking paint doesn't mean shit
Light contact doesn't matter. It's so funny because like at Kota
They really care about the track limits like specifically a Kota because all the run-offs are paved
And so if you have to in when it's all just paved and you could sort of theoretically just drive anywhere
Like you have to enforce the track limits. Otherwise people are going to just drive anywhere
Like there's no reason to not just make a straight line through the s's it's possible
We talked to Jensen Button about this because he raced there and he said the only place they enforced it was the s's
Yeah, the rest of it. He was like it took him
I think he said it was like half the race just to understand that what was happening around him was allowed and like contact
Past paint like track limits. He was like
For sure. Yeah, I mean in in in fucking when we were in WRL. They only cared about it in one place
But they did in fury care about it to the point where they would bring it up in all the meetings on the drives
He's a blah blah at the Glen
It's like track grass wall and so like there's pavement like, you know, fuck it like it's not that much of an advantage
It's like it wrote America right right like if you're if the car can make it like it's it's grass and then wall
So like man, you might as well try. Yeah, it's your risk. It's your reward totally
They don't really give a shit and they didn't really seem to give a shit, but I was so out of touch
I didn't even realize that there was like an actual NASCAR race like attached to that probably the next day or something
But I had to explain to Hannah why there is a series where they race pickup trucks that are actually NASCAR
Which is a fun, you know, it was
It was like one of those conversations like
Hannah knows unlike it wasn't a difficult concept to explain
But it was almost like no one had ever asked me that before and it was almost like, you know explain Kim Kardashian to an alien
Sort of thing where you have to like back it, you know back it up pretty far and I was like alright
That's how far we have to go back to explain
Why they're racing pickup trucks as NASCAR so how that makes any sense at all. I don't know the history of all
I just know that it's like the feeder series into Xfinity and then Cup and all that stuff
Yeah, Hannah said her company sponsored a quote racing truck in Brazil briefly and
For a minute. I got extremely excited because I thought it was one of those snub-nosed like man
You know racing semis that they race down there and then I found out that they have a
NASCAR truck like series in Brazil as well. Oh, yeah
Maybe Copa truck. I think is what it's maybe sure that sounds right. Yeah, which looks like NASCAR truck
But in Brazil. Oh, wait, I'm sorry Copa truck is the one you want. That's the one you want
The dopest shit ever
So it's formula truck if you haven't have you ever next time we go to CXC to like train for a race or something
After we're done fucking around with the race
Haven't put us in one of the semis because I know motion in a motion fucking sim
semi-racing is insanity
You're bouncing like in ways because you know you still have the hydraulic seat and shit
That's weird like bouncing like crazy. So you got to be hard to feel the limits because it's all cushioned
Yeah, it's going through this translator. Yeah. Oh, that'd be weird. Yeah, it's wild
So anyway, it's real quick. How cool does that look? Oh my god?
Everyone imagine a cab over semi that's shorter G's fucking yeah
It's got a front splitter like I don't know a GTR. It's huge
And you know, I'm gonna show and display that in America and don't tell don't tell the fucking Habibi's in Beverly Hills
That's a thing that someone could possibly drive. It's really cool
Imagine like look at the camera. Okay, imagine the lower the lower nose of a Toyota Supra
grafted onto
The the flat front of a European semi that's that's cut they cut
The bottom half bottom third of the cab and then they just drop the top two thirds
Yeah, lower on it looks top like it looks like the front fenders are
Equal with the door handle like that's how the cab look at the camber on the front tires
Four degrees of negative camber if not more and for people listening the whole truck is gold
The whole truck is gold
This is awesome. Yes. Wow. That's a 2019. That's not even a 2026
We need a 2026 Copa truck
All sponsorship money needs to be diverted to this series. Why are we even watching anything else?
Mmm, why isn't there a drive to survive about this shit, dude?
These guys probably nuts this this must be one of the best spectator motorsports possible
This is the same person. They're the proximity. I mean, they're so they're side-by-side three wide with these huge vehicles
Yeah, oh, it's great like look at that
That just seems to be why
Three wide down the front straight these giants have eyes
Wonder how like 15 gears real aggressive windshield banner game
Advertising a lot of space, you know NASCAR they charge what is it by the square inch or something here?
They do it by the you know the mirror. Okay, so I just did
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To scout the the rodentrack northwest shift Hannah came with me. I drove a
Maw a gmc acacia, which is not the worst thing you could drive
But for driving on in in dynamic situations, it's among the worst things you could drive
So this thing, okay
I'm gonna be nice the gmc acacia if you were going to let's just say central florida
And you wanted to rent a three row
Midsize suv
Smaller than a Tahoe
But hold three row. This is a lovely vehicle
Spacious the fucking tech the carplay and shit works great
He the heated seats were just about the hottest heated seats. I've ever used to the point where like
Someone might actually cook a pizza with one
And it was like, you know space and whatever it was fine. It was screwed together tightly
Like it was all right, but
This engine is mad wheezy. I don't know what this fucking thing weighs. It's got to be 5 000 pounds big ass heavy thing
this engine's a little four cylinder
And just just nothing just a lot of fucking nothing
And uh, and it required a lot of downshifting hunting for gears things like that
The 2.5 liter turbo four by the same engine we had in the blazer probably in montana
That was a pretty nice car. That's a good job
This thing probably weighs 800 pounds more than that. Wow, you know and so also
steering wheel with paddle shifters
right, okay
They do nothing
They are not because they do absolutely nothing. They're full on
It's full on it's a steering wheel from something else and the paddle shifter
Does not no way it doesn't change anything nothing truly. There's no drive mode in which the paddle shifters
Change gears up or down
Oh, I thought you're being like no no embellishing like all these zero nothing
Wow. Yeah, nothing
furthermore
This particular vehicle
Which was not something I could have checked when I could have foreseen when I left the rental place
Had a nasty vibration beginning at about 55 miles an hour
All the way up and so I mean
I probably a wheel weight a wheel out of balance or something. I actually thought there might be mud into tires, right?
And and there was some mud in the wheel arches
So I stopped at a self-serve and really power wash the fuck out of the wheels and suspension and everything I could get
Helped it a little but so maybe
Maybe a wheel weight fell off a wheel weight fell off and it got caked in mud
Some but you know some for like three days. It was just like a yeah. Yeah, it was so handle like the trip
It didn't it actually wasn't like quite bad enough and Hannah doesn't have
Quite enough experience with cars for her to be like this is problematic
Versus like this is just how this car drives and like crap
You know what I mean? Like I could be like this car is not supposed to be doing this
She she can't really which it was fine. She did about half the driving
um
Washing the these this is
Fucking slept on part of the country from a car enthusiasm standpoint
These roads are fucking
Bangers all of them all the roads are bangers. It's like this road trip is like as close as you could get probably to
New zealand in america we went from
Lakes to beaches to
forests to rain forests to desert to
High pine forest to snow literal snow
And then back down all of those back to the to the sea again like
Such a banger like really good
um
One of the hotels that we're going to be staying in the trip is like on mount rainier and doesn't even open until
Like two weeks from now, so I couldn't check it out the road to get there was closed
That's right. We looked down on the map and I found a much um, but I finally it took me
A couple of hours to figure out who it is. I can call
In the state of washington to figure out like when these roads might open or like whatever
It turns out actually it's the park service the roads. I need are inside the park
and
I tried calling all the dot agencies and
They just kept pinging me around like no, this is you're in the southwest region
You need the north region and ping big did I talked six of them? Oh until I got a complete circle eventually I was like
How about the park and like that was that actually it was the park so
um, but uh
Really really good tarmac
Up there for a for a place that has four seasons like the tarmac was exceptional
um
Lot of lot of good open sweepers, but in the beginning part of the drive
In the oregon part of the drive over the area around portland leaving portland
Some very beautiful and tight technical forest driving with like big ferns almost like a
Like you'd find outside of in northern california kind of like that
And then like tons of waterfalls tons of fucking rivers like the sound of like water
rushing is like everywhere
Absolutely beautiful one of those beautiful drives over done
There are a few spots available if you want you can come drive with us
It's uh experiences dot road and track dot com. I will of course be there
leading the drive and I believe
Barring some kind of miracle. I'll be driving an m5 touring
Which um is a good car for a road trip admittedly holds a lot of stuff very comfortable
It's not like my favorite car in the world
But the selection of press cars up there are is very limited. So I'm happy with that the other
There's two sporty
I cast a pretty wide net
Sporty cars are in the fleet
The only two cars that would qualify to a road and track reader as sporty where the m5 touring and amyata
I knew it. I just knew it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so I was like dan. I got you a meata
What happens don't ask someone to arrange the cars they're gonna give themselves the best car
Well, I bet there will be a road or section where you'll want to be in the meata and there is a lot where you don't
Yeah, there's a couple. Um
But uh, and we got Portland international raceway, which is a fun track
Um, and we're gonna be staying at some really cool hotels
I can't I couldn't check out the one but I have I checked out the first one
I couldn't get to Mount Rainier one and I have actually stayed for two nights at the third one and it's super super nice
So, um, it's gonna be a really really fun trip
I'm I'm extremely stoked that I get to go back and do it again
um
And and uh Hannah and I really enjoyed the towns of long beach Washington and uh leaven leavenworth
If you go in the next photo leavenworth washington is like one of those fake
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This town wanted to like boost their tourism in the 60s and a guy was like i know
Swiss village and so they went to solvang which is california's swiss village and they were like yeah
This just this a copy of a cop control c control v or whatever the 1960s version of that was
They hired the architect. builder
We were reading about this the whole way. They hired all these people and they built themselves a so now so our solvang california
is danish
this is
swiss german
But like same fucking shit. It's equally it's the it's very much the american version of
Swiss if you first people that have never actually been to switzerland or germany like because for
In this small photo on your phone. It looks very alpine it does up close not so much
Because the mountains are shorter the windows aren't quite right. No, not the mountains
I mean the mountains aren't quite right either, but but it's all it's like the second and the second story and above
Say switzerland, but the ground floor of all the buildings is very much america
Like you know, we have like the regulations of ada or and also just
Larger doors larger windows. We that's what we do and it might have been converted from buildings that were already there in the
60s like who knows like
Nevertheless the sausages were delicious
Seriously the beer was actually proper german beer drinking drinking good german beer
And we we ate dinner at a restaurant called karta, which is not
Fucking swiss german themed and it was unironically absolutely fucking delicious
Um, and it was it was a pretty good time. Wow. Yeah, nice. This is like it was like two hours from seattle
So this is like it is literally like they're solvang for
Seattle
Popping off on a saturday. They want people to see something different. They're like sure. This is what it looks like there
That's fine. I get it a little bit of whimsy. Yeah, so we're stopping and this is one of our stops
On the event. So it's not an overnight. It's a someone the chat asked if
You know if you bring a partner on the trip do they get to drive on the track also?
Yes, yes, no, no if there's two people
In in the group in that with that they want to drive on track. They both get to drive. Yeah. Yeah, they make accommodations for that
They would basically put
You know, there's like the red group and the green group that's not they don't mean skills anything
It's just like you have to divide it up because there's only so many whatever right
And you would just the car would stay and the driver would switch
Yeah, but it would they would each get full sessions as long as the car was able to handle that. Yeah. Yeah, cool
um, but uh, these are these are fucking good trips and like
I know the pacific northwest is like kind of far from stuff
It's hard to get to like very much
This was the beach and this is called long beach
And this long beach is the longest
drivable beach in the country
Like you can drive on on the sand. Yeah, yeah, you can drive on the sand
You're not allowed to do drifties. Did you take? Yeah
We did not take the gmc because we had been in the car for like five hours
And we wanted to walk on the beach and that was very rewarding and delightful
But uh, people were mainly people who just wanted to drive because it's pretty deep
They wanted to just drive down to where the water was for the I mean not the
The depth meaning uh the distance from where you park to the water is quite far is like a couple hundred yards
So people who wanted to go fishing would like drive their forerunner down there and and pull out the poles
But lovely place nice people awesome good food
Uh, very much enjoyed my time up there cannot wait to go back
Oh, and I I sort of told you about this the other day, but I
I saw a road rage incident
Play out in front of my eyes and it was so good
because
uh, one of the people
the person that
This person the not the person that started the road rage
But the person that started the that that sparked the road rage had a a big sticker on their back window that said hugs not drugs
Which I just I loved in fact at first I noticed it because I thought it said nugs not drugs and I was like that's right, sir
weed isn't drugs
But then I was like, oh wait. No, that's just me reading. It's just oh, yeah, that's the cursive
So, um, we're driving the Acadia
Hugs not drugs is to immediately to our right down a what you'd call a dual carriageway two lane road
In front of us is a uh, fairly crappy
late 1990s Pontiac
Grand Prix sedan the blobby one the the one that looked like it was just fully injection molded plastic like that one, right?
It's in front of us
all of a sudden traffic
like
Comes abruptly to a halt in front of Pontiac Grand Prix who clearly will not be able to break in time and does a
What do you call it a moose test maneuver?
Into the other lane
Sort of you might say
It would be called cutting off hugs not drugs if there if it wasn't off so obviously a defensive maneuver to avoid getting into a crash
Okay
Immediately hugs not drugs lays on the horn as if he had been cut off unprompted
lays on the horn
Grand Prix is having fucking zero of this
Jams on the brakes
Fuck in one of the hardest brake checks I've ever seen that results in hugs not drugs
Smashing into his back bumper
And now hugs not drugs is you know, it's a white key
Uh
Maybe an optima or something whatever just a keya
The front bumper is now doing that thing where only the top hinges are holding it on
And it sort of flaps like a doggy door that's being pushed open. Yeah, you see it on drift cars once in a while
Yeah, look at push dump in doggy
So hugs not drugs, you know, they've been in an accident that he pulls over
Grand Prix does not fucking take a beat just dips
Just the front the rear bumper of this car
The car this this car is
This car's $2,000 on a great day
Even if it's totally straight and legit there's a $2,000 car
I wonder if the plastic back in the 90s also is like it's a rubber made rubber made plastic the fasteners were a little more expensive
They hadn't taken all the value out of them yet. So it's just more durable
But this dude just fucking eyes up evaded a crash only to get honked at in a car
He gives no fucks about and was absolutely having none of this person's fucking on
And man, like I do not endorse this behavior, but if you're gonna do it like
Like he wasn't trying to do an insurance scam
Right, just fucking lady smash into the back of him and then went, you know what?
That's cool. Yeah, fuck and he didn't even check the damage. He's gone. I don't care what happened
It's about it's about the lesson being taught here slowed down just enough to get hit and was like that's fine and then went to work
Do not fight that person. Yeah
That's like these people that drive in the canyons when we're up there doing fucking open shade
Zach and I get up there really early both to like beat traffic across town
And so that we can shoot
The car interiors in what's called open shade. It's like soft lights
You don't have these like hard like bright and shadow bits in the interior
But like and people will criticize us for like breaking speed limits by the way shout out to the chp officer fan
Who fucking said what's up to me yesterday by the way? I don't think that guy has any problem with what we're doing
Uh, but when we're up there shooting fucking open shade
We we witness what we call the palm dale 500 which is people who commute over the mountain on that road doing
The kind of speeds that we do
In the worst cars imaginable with terrible tires and doing like crazy double yellow passes
Do not do into blind corners. Yeah, like the shit we see up. We should just sit there
Like one day we should go up there and like not film a car and just go ahead on looking up that hill
Just sit there and just count the fucking double yellow passes because it's at least three or four in the half hour
We're in that siding. Yeah, all those passes are like they're on the rain line
You know because because there's a car in the apex
So they actually go to the outside right later and then turn in it is truly crazy box trucks
old Tacomas
You know camry's whatever like a lot of economy boxes with uh, you know marred paint just going for it pushing
pushing
Like
Like dude just wake up a couple minutes earlier man like whatever you're doing like
Dying for your fucking job ain't worth it. Whatever you're doing, bro
That break check story is very much like pat noxwell has a story where he was at a bar
outside and
A cowboy walked out and bumped into this like very large black dude
Out of cigar and the cowboy goes watch where watch where you're going and the black guy goes
I'm not going like i'm saying here you bumped into me
So you watch it and the cowboy's wasted and tries to start a fight and the black dude just picks him up and drops him
Because he's a powerlifter and then the cowboy walks away and it's like this honk
Yeah, like hey, i'm hey. Fuck you and the other person's like you know
I have the upper hand in so many ways. Yes, you have fucked with the wrong person today, and I am not taking it. Yeah
Falling down is not a admirable story, but it is a cathartic movie in that regard
Any movie where someone just cracks. Yeah
So that's wild but uh
So I saw that on this road trip and uh, we're going back, uh, june
Jesus, I think it's not the ninth to the ninth or tenth to the 13th
Is the actual trip like I said, there's a couple spots left
You had to fucking hang out at the bar with me every night and fucking nagging. I tell you what I really think
Yeah, tell you what I really think about stuff. That's that's what you're paying for on this trip
Is not the hotels and the food and the racetrack. It's so I can tell you what I'll tell them all the secrets
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Uh the
Oh announced another announcement. I'm I'm 99% sure this is a go 99% there's only like
Maybe like one thing that could derail it at this point
Detroit woodward dream cruise thursday live smoking tire podcast with christian james hand
At garage 248 in royal oak
It's gonna be a fucking good time
The tickets will include
Snacks and bevs wink winks
That means cocaine and whiskey
Piles of cocaine
Uh
It's 248 garage and I say garage 248. I don't know if I got it right, but
248 garage in royal oak. They uh, I've been talking to them. We got it all lined up
We got things organized over there
So it's gonna be thursday night of woodward dream cruise. I believe that is the 13th august thursday august 13th
um
Yeah christian christian hand's gonna fucking crush it nice
We have we're gonna have special detroit themed fucking merch
Uh dream cruise themed merch. We're gonna have uh,
Maybe some special guests come into chat
Some of our detroit heads and it's going to be a fucking good time. So I uh, I don't have the ticket link just yet
It's gonna be uh, I just found out this morning. Thank god
These have these fucking guys have a a vent bright account. So I don't have to make another subscription
Um, so we'll have tickets soon this place. It's uh, it's like a car storage and social club
Um, I like their vibe. I talked to uh, douglas who who owns the joint
For like an hour on the phone on the other day guy gets it. I'm down
That's the room. Uh, we're gonna use they're gonna pull all the cars out of there
The stage will be at the back by that roll-up door
And uh, we got tv's we got sound sick. We're gonna have it's gonna be it's only gonna be like, uh, like 125
130 capacity so a little smaller than the
Um, than the texas shows so when the ticket link goes up jump on it
Get on it. Detroit midwest people come on down and uh, we're gonna be hanging out for dream cruise
So that'll be going up soon. That'll be I can't wait to do to do live show in detroit. It's gonna be detroit like
They have a fucking sense of humor in detroit. These are awesome people there. So I'm I'm extremely stoked about that. Um,
also
Uh
In in important news. Did you know that um, pch is open big sir
Pch through big sir is open. I don't know exactly the date it opened
But all of a sudden someone the other day was like, hey, did you know it was open and I looked at it?
Absolutely is
January, I guess it was a january. Yeah. Wow. I haven't been paying attention
So I haven't gone up there, but it is open and I guess if I didn't know maybe other people don't know either
So now you know pch is open
You should go drive it while you can because it's like never open for more than like a year very true
Yeah, uh drive it now before the rainy season arrives. That's usually when it has a problem. You don't want to be there for that
So, uh, what an amazing drive, but the road changes so much from bottom to top like just get super tight twisty
Yeah, it's great. It's very fun and you should drive it. Um, but if you're and if you're going to car week
You should go that way, but if you're uh, if you're not
You should come to car. You should go to come to Detroit to the woodward dream cruise and hang out with us
Um, and uh before we go to questions because we do have a bunch
I just learned another thing I just learned that I'm sure other people have known
Did you know that the um
The the eight speed
ZF gearbox
The eight hp 70 or whatever it's called, right? Mm-hmm
There is like a hack for it now
That can essentially make it
An on-demand manual
So there's there's a thing that they sell
Oh fucking there's there's a name for this computer and it's I can't remember the name
It's you're gonna find it in two seconds. I'm sorry. I don't have the link right
at hand, but
It's a computer that can hack the the gearbox and you can effectively put a
Fake clutch pedal now. It's an automatic still. Mm-hmm. It's you you have to press the brake pedal to put it in from park into drive
And you can use paddle shifters or or leave it in d and you can drive it like an automatic
Separately
The zf gearbox inside has a torque converter still right? It's an automatic
but with this hack
You can also like control a bunch of other shit that they don't normally let you control
Now I don't know about like the longevity of this but
This a couple people have now done it where it's it's sort of built into this computer that controls the gearbox
You can put you can then install a clutch pedal
What right
In you you put a clutch pedal in and in one in like a one video thad sent me
Someone had put in a very professional looking clutch pedal. It looked almost oem right into in a street car
And another video it was like a fucking
Drift car right and in the drift car. They actually used a gas pedal as the fake clutch pedal
Okay
You following me
So there's a gas pedal on the right and then the normal brake and then
About where there would be a clutch pedal. Okay, there's another gas pedal
Now that gas pedal is a fake digital clutch
And it does the things that clutches can do so just this full disengagement
It doesn't disengage the the it engages the clutch pack inside the gearbox disengages it so you can clutch kick
You can separate you can you separate the gearbox. It opens it just like a clutch, but it's not the clutch
Like a manual there's a bunch of clutch packs that are for different gears
within the it opens those
So is the it is it pretty much used for
Drift folks like because you do you still have the paddles? Do you still have the same electronic shifter? Correct?
Okay, so basically you can clutch kick the car using an automatic which is
Opens up the market for more drift cars instead of having a manual. Okay, it is a clutch kickable
Fucking eight speed automatic torque converter gearbox like a discount sequential box. Yes, essentially. Yes
It's the fucking gearbox that we race with right survives endurance racing and
All that other shit
And now you and now I don't know how long it lasts if you're doing this a lot because just particularly because you're
Opening the clutch is for purposes of clutch kicking, right? So
Who knows how long it will last if you're doing this all the time, but it is
apparently
Possibly and not all that difficult for someone who knows how to install a computer and a clutch pedal to make this work
8hp the world is this website and in the frequently asked questions tab
It offers what the 8hp?
Swap kits are
So and I don't know anything about the the reputation of this company. It's not necessarily an endorsement. It's just that this is where
In the fa like because thad sent me like long videos and podcasts and all this and I was like, dude
Just I something quick. So the fa queues in here are like
the
The the transmission controllers are called the turbo lamik
or the max ecu
Turbo lamik offers the most comprehensive features including launch mode and virtual clutch control. So that's what it's called
turbolamik
Turbolamik and so with these swap kits you can these this this website is to swap the 8hp into other cars
I think with the turbo lamik controller
You can just hack the gearbox when it's in a car that it's come with here. We go. Yeah. Yeah, right
So if you've got a bmw or a chrysler or something
That's already got the 8hp
It's about putting that transmission in a supra a mark 4 supra. I see 300 is 300 basically Toyota stuff
Here we go. Yeah, but this is this is pretty fucking cool, huh? That's pretty rad
I mean, yeah, if if you can just go to the junkyard get a zf8 speed. Yeah, or you buy a car that already has one
What is the what do they have products for so?
It's just a computer so wiring harness here's a here's a supra
So you could do it for a soup you could do it for a modern supra
You could do with an automatic and and make a clutch kickable automatic
Uh, yeah, so I mean the the whole hardware computer wiring everything is 2500 bucks. Um
And then you have to figure out what your fake clutch pedal will be. Yeah, but like
Kind of interesting, isn't it? Yeah, I mean I wonder I wonder very curious if people know about this in the comments like how does it hold up to
Racing how does it hold up to drifting? Um, yeah, there's the dct clutch simulator remote. Oh, this is I yeah
There's one of the things but all you know
Porsche sort of did this with a d with the dct right in the gt cars where if you tug the paddles together you can go to
Which I think I think would be a fun
I actually might potentially like that in a supra or a bmw better than a fake pedal
I don't I don't hate the
Tug both paddles to clutch kick. I mean, I think I think it works in some situations
But there will be times like you know if you're drifting and you need to you know
Clutch kick mid-corner and the wheel is turned in the pad where the paddles right now
That could be a little more challenging if you're doing competitive drifting. Absolutely
Or just you're fun sometimes depending on your power
It depends on your power level your engine but if I was putting this in a street car
I might just use this computer to add that ability than and rather than adding an actual pedal very oh, right
Very physical occasional burnouts and yeah, yeah, yeah weird
Neat very neat like what a cool possible solution to
If people want to build a drift car and they're like well the manuals always cost a premium
There's not as many of them obviously like this opens up that whole market
Yeah, if they work for competitive stuff kind of interesting
I mean this is definitely cheaper than buying a sequential box like
Like what's the cheapest, you know sequential transmission cost? I have no idea. I don't know
I feel like the good ones are in the tens. It's gotta be. Yeah
Like six to eight. It's gotta be 10 grand. Yeah, cool
That's just kind of a neat thing
I've never heard of before and of course that he has found it because the kind of thing that he has would find
He's yeah, he's been very interested in the the zf eight speed swap into
What do you send me someone put one in an e 92? Yeah, and like or e 92
I think e 92 and he's like this is pretty cool and you could do in the in the e 46
They're just making it work with lots of bmw. Yeah, well remember the uh, they were doing it with the dct before that
The guy at pikes peak has the e had the e 30 with the bmw dct in it. Yep, that's right
2j. Yeah, 2jz with a fucking bmw dct in an e 30. Yeah in a wide-body. Yeah, I was fucking nuts psychotic hillclimby 30s
Yeah, engineering student, of course great that car that car fucking rolled everything about that was tens across the board
I don't care how it did in the race. That's a winner. Uh, very awesome. This is this is neat. I've I'd love to uh
If somebody in california has a drift car with this in it, I would really like to try it
Definitely, I will host you it at willow springs as my guest and we can come play
Uh, super cool, man. I love that. There's the constant ingenuity of people. So really neat, right? Yeah
I like it a lot and it does. I mean it makes the it makes
Automatic equipped jdm cars more desirable because because now you don't have to turn it into
A manual you could fucking get it throw out whatever slushbox is in there
Do you know get one of these out of a fucking dodge or a chrysler or what?
The transmission's in everything. Yeah, they're all over it. It's said on that other site like which ones to use
for the swaps
Um, no go back to the f8 the f aq's. Where were those? Oh
the f aq page there had uh
There right now we offer the supra one with the dodge gearbox the sore with the dodge and
Yeah, so they're all using the dodge gearboxes
Those are that that's got to be the strong ones, right? Because they're in like the hellcats and stuff. Whoa cool. So yeah
Need, huh? Yeah, that's really neat. That's really neat
All right, let's go to the people right? Yep. I think it's that is it that time. Yeah, I think it is
Certainly it's because I'm out of things on my list
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We've got a few from uh last week
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Left in the patreon. I think the the remaining units. I think there's about
I want to say like 25. I think of the hundred. I think our patrons got about 75 of them
The remaining are going to get offered to the public. So if you if you do want one if you were on the fence
If you were holding out for that ap swatch collab and then you realize that it was obviously going to be a pocket watch and uh
Car if carl was here today
I don't like to speak for the dead, but carl
Spoke on the record to me a many many many times about pocket watches
And carl would laugh at everybody buying that fucking ap swatch pocket watch. That's all i'm saying
He really that's great. So i had a question about it and you answered it
He would laugh at it and I
I think
It I think the same thing
like
I understand what they're both doing, but I think that uh, um
I think the problem is if you someone figures out how to put the thing in a wristwatch
It looks an awful lot like the expensive
ap ceramic ones
And so people who have the really expensive ap ceramic ones might be oh, i'm looking at it. This looks terrible
It's not great. And what that it's a pocket watch. I just yeah, I don't think it works as a pocket watch
Well, I also I think I think if this thing is what makes pocket watches all of a sudden trendy
Then it would be like a shameless
Just branding consumerism of how to get anything with the ap brand on it for you know regular people money
Uh, yeah tripping on adas asked if this was a recession indicator
um, I don't think I'd go I wouldn't go that far but I I think pocket watches a lot of times look really nice because
They're just so slim like they're slim and it's just a simple circle and there's like
I don't know the smooth pebble shape to them without without the strap without the housing that you attach
So isolated. I think they look nice, but obviously they're very inconvenient. Yeah, it's like having your phone in your pocket as your as your watch
Yeah, so you know you already have a pocket watch. It's called it's called your phone actually. It's you know, but
um, I mean if you I think if you dress it the right way they they they work as an accent for that
But not as a really functional watch. Yeah, it's it's to me
It's the labubu that people are going to hang them on their backpacks
Right, so it's on your pocket. It's hanging out there. Yeah, and they're hanging out
They're gonna I guarantee you the number one place to spot these things is going to be around the handle of a louis duffel
Which to me
The louis duffel
Is a joke of a product because it's essentially made of plastic not leather
That's just the print like my dad used to talk so much shit about like the trunks
Like that they brought in the fucking titanic and shit those louis trunks. That's a different story
Them shits are made in fucking italy and france by
But the duffels that ever you see everybody carrying around the airport and shit them shits are made of plastic
They're garbage because they have to be more durable for getting thrown around
No, no, look at that becket simmon on bag I have that shits made of leather. I care all over the world
It's money. No louis trash, dude, but you're gonna see them hanging from the fucking louis bags for sure
Let's see poop to sample. That's pretty funny
Uh, I haven't been able to drive a gt4 or spider with the shorter gearing
But honestly don't mind the the oe gearing
Um, I did I had an s2000 did a rear end final gear swap and felt like I was having to shift too much
Which made the car actually slower
Is the gearing more set up for the 4.5? Um, so no
Here's the thing
You're really not
It's not that much shorter first first first. It's not the final drive ratio is different because it shortens your your
All the gears the same amount
The gear set in the spiders at least the there's a there's different gear sets you can get
The one I use it first it leaves sixth alone
So your creep and your crews are stock. They're the same as stock
And in between it it changes the ratios
individually in a way that is just more optimized so in the canyons
Yes, you're shifting a little more than you otherwise would but the problem with the stock car is you're not shifting enough
so
And you don't end up shifting like you know hill climb rally car
Where you watch them get into six by the time they're at 90 miles per hour
It's not like that. No, it just makes it the gearing more like a normal car. Yeah, like
Uh, I feel like it makes the gearing what it would be
If Porsche was not restricted by eu
noise and mpg regulations and emissions because that's
Part of why the gearing is so is so damn tall and everything. Yeah, possibly
um, so I I don't know anyone who's done the gears
and regretted it
Whereas there's definitely people that I know who have done final drive ratios and ended up with some unintended consequences
We know two people at least who have done the gears that did not do the engine
Yeah, and they love it. They love it if they do the gears a light flywheel and like the planum in the exhaust like
You're 60 of the weight of the engine honestly in terms of like actual enjoyment
Um
Sound deadening my car so no one can hear me cry. Why does nobody put sliding doors on an suv? They do in like europe
Uh
Sliding doors is like 50 of what makes minivans more practical. It seems like a common sense upgrade. It ain't about practical
It's about image and perception sliding doors make people think minivan minivans are for losers
It's probably also
More complicated to construct because now you have a sliding mechanism and a brace mechanism on the flank of the car instead of like
Hinge, you know, hinge is a simpler thing. I don't know
Sort of that by now
Every more seems like more parts every major company's built a sliding door on something
It also makes the side of the vehicle look worse
Sure having some sort of cut where the door can move depending on where it is
But like in europe, they have a lot of the cars that here would absolutely be be sold with just normal doors
Where the back door is a sliding door
um
I think that may be for easier access to a baby seat
Oh, it's definitely easier ingress egress for sure
It's it's it's easier to get things in and out of a back seat if that door is slidding out of the way
Then if it's just open for sure, so it may be
You know, okay, we're not as obsessed with style, but this is a more practical
Saying and maybe I don't think in europe. They have the stigma towards van like cars that they have here
Here like I don't know what it'll take for like vans to be cool in america like ever again
um
ID buzz couldn't really do it and that's about the best we got. Yeah, let's say the 26 carnival
They call an mpv not a yeah, it looks kind of like an suv, but it's got a sliding door
They've played a century
So there's a few out there, but we don't have two in the ruby one in the star
Says if you could have a watchmaker design and build a car
Uh, who would you choose and what would they produce?
Uh, I mean, I would love to see rishard meal build an actual sports car
I mean their watch is regardless of what you think about how they're how they look
They're not they're certainly not for everybody and most of them are not for me
But the material science the engineering
Um, there's a lot there is a lot to that fire pop
Probably a reason they sponsor a lot of f1 drivers. Yeah, you look at the car. You look at the watch you go
Yeah, that kind of makes sense. I mean all of their athletes and um, whatever influencers or whatever that that that they represent
Or they represent them. Um, however, you're supposed to say that
They wear a watch to do activities where you're specifically told not to wear watches tennis golf
Uh shooting
Uh racing
Cycling these are activities that if you're going on the forums people literally say don't wear an automatic watch while doing this
Because it'll mess up the watch and so rishard meal goes. Oh, you think so and they build watches that are for these activities
um, and so like
That kind of like technological technological achievement
Uh, I think their cars would look weird as hell
Who makes the crazy watches that are like
You know, jaco $500,000 with like the crazy
Complication movement. Jacob. It'd be interesting to see what they come up with. It might look like the blastaline brothers car
Well, I I wrote uh for road and track this month about the jacob and co the new bugatti watch
Which is a we find ourselves in a hilarious crossroads because historically there have been many
Car themed watches and most of them are shitty
The only really good car themed watches are the tag carerra the rolex detona the tag monaco
or hoyer monaco
And that's kind of it. There's not a lot of other car themed watches that like really work. Most of them are fucking
Chopin mealy mealy is pretty good
But many of them are corny as fuck
We now have
Bugatti has released a watch themed car. They've they've fucking inverted that shit
So we now have the tourbillon a car named after a watch complication
That has visible fucking watch gears doing the dials
They've fucking flipped that and so now buga jacob has now come out
With the jacob bugatti tourbillon the watch version of car watch
It's we're in the fucking meta land for billionaires now
And so this thing is like a zillion complications and you know, it looks kind of stupid
But it actually if you think about the engineering behind it, it's really incredible the the complications of the
jacob and co bugatti tourbillon
themed after the bugatti tourbillon
um
I wonder what this will cost. It's like 800 thousand dollars or something. It's fucking insane. It's it's an
Unfathomable amount of money. Although hilariously
This morning I was browsing on reddit because I still do browse on reddit once in a while
And there was a post picture of jz
Who was a fucking insane watch collector wearing the patek grandmaster chime, which is like a 3000000 dollar watch
There's like maybe 20 people on the planet that can build a watch like this
Yeah, it has like 20 complications
And is dude has it has 1400 parts
okay
Think about this the the notice canyon
Okay, is 41 millimeters
Okay, and it's it's 11 millimeters thick
Okay, the grandmaster chime and this has I I want to say this has like 240 something parts in it. Okay
The grandmaster chime is a millimeter
A half a millimeter thinner than this
And four millimeters smaller in diameter than this wow and it has 1,400 parts in it
How many parts of yours have again two like 250 wow
like
so so and and actually I saw this reddit thread where
The first comment was like honestly. Why would something like this be worth so much money?
They don't know watches and also they because it's fucking to say if someone's watches worth 3000000 dollars
You might as well say you know what I mean there they came from space or something
But then you know and it was a bunch of snark and then a guy who knew a lot about watches. I assume it's a guy
Wrote a very lengthy explanation
And you just saw a flood of comments underneath it
They were like I never cared about watches at all
But this is fucking crazy and now I'm like researching
The engineering of like crazy watches. Whoa, and so this is a double-faced watch. Yeah, you flip it
Oh my god, it's got complications on the back the shit spins, dude. Yeah, it's 20 complications. It's got like eight features
You know the way go to the list of complications if you scroll down, I'm sure
I zoomed in on oh you did. I'm sorry. There is a
The the list of complications is so fucking extraordinary
um
And it's shit, you know
Half of it is stuff that you never use but it's it also is a grand and petite sonnary. It's like a full chiming mechanism
So like when you press the button, it just chimes the time out on you know
Like a little like your own personal church bell. Yeah, yeah
um
Where does it so chime me uh, does it does it have it?
There there go down grand complications
so
It's oh it doesn't even
It's not even on the website. Yeah, it does not even oh that's it on the right grandmaster chime
Oh, this is it. Yeah. Oh man. I was looking at the wrong picture before we had that one just has jewels on it
Oh, okay, but but you could get it get it with or without the baguettes
But I just want to see read the list of complications because that's important. It's got to have it
Case to the movement click expand the movement
All right, here we go the list of complications
Grand and petite sonnery, that's a chiming mechanism minute repeater with chime on three
classic gongs strike work mode display now
That's that's a display dial that tells you what mode the chiming is in alarm with time strike
alarm on off indication an aperture aperture date repeater
movement and strike work power reserve indication so it has two
barrels of power one for the the movement to actually tell the time and then a separate barrel that just powers
The chiming function strike work isolator indication. That's a function to separate the two barrels
Second time zone day night indicator for the second time zone
instantaneous perpetual calendar so that does the day the date the month and the year
For the net until the year 2100 so it knows leap years
It knows the day of the week everything you never have to change reset it for a hundred years or for 74 years
um
Day date on both dials month and leap year by the hands four digit year display moon phase
24 hour minute sub dial crown position indicator
No stopwatch dude click on but
That cannot this is powered by fucking springs and gears. Yeah, there's no I can't you can't punch in on that
Oh, what a shame
To punch in on the movement because you can see oh there you go
So that's one side of it and then on the other side
You can see if you click on the back those in the center. Those are the two power barrels in black
Oh, no, those are the date wheels. Excuse me the power barrels are you see the uh, the big disc on the the big solid disc
On the bottom left at eight o'clock and then another one those discs have the power in them. Oh, that's where the springs are. Yeah
It's speculated that the Ferrari luce will mostly be sold to people wanting allocations for other Ferraris
What current Ferraris would be worth having to buy a luce at 600k. Um, none of them. Sorry
There's not a Ferrari on the market that's worth having to buy an extra car to get
Yeah, because you can just get a 296 if you want one, right? Yeah, and I think that's the best one they make
I don't I don't want to jump up to yeah as of 90 or the f80 or like those look terrible
We had this conversation on the last podcast. What other because it because it
Let's say you have to buy a luce at 600k to get into a 296
Special at 600k you're now spending 1.2 million to get the car you actually want
So that that brings us back to last week in in evaluto is fucking a million bucks. Once you're done
What what what would you rather give that money to Ferrari for exactly with their current product lineup like?
Nothing actually
Sigs inside
Says what are your favorite type of shoes to wear for long full day road trips in an automatic transmission
My heels get sore in my Nike running shoes and the accessories of my crocs get caught in the pedals
Don't use crocs with accessories get a set of car crocs
Driving crocs would be fucking sick. I would love to collab with crocs for like a rounded heel
Driving croc that would be so dope
But that's the answer to this person's question is find a shoe with a rounded heel
I had some moments who could tigers that had a rounded heel. They're hard to find makes a huge difference versus the squared one
That that's like the biggest thing so if I'm true it truth be told if I'm doing a long full day road trips
Very often I'm fucking with the radar cruise control and I might even be taking my shoes off
Just stretching my legs straight out behind the pedals just chilling like that
If I have radar cruise control I can count on I could do that for hours and
I basically drove across the country in the tycon doing that
Um having said that um, I normally do just wear
Actually, I'm wearing them today. I wear these these are um, I might I'm sitting like ac slater in the fucking seats
I can't show my shoes, but these are new balance. Um
What number are they 93 threes and they're sort of like
New balances version of like a skateboarding shoe. I guess a casual sneaker with sort of a a flat slash rounded heel
And they're not they're not as wide as my other sneakers. So they're good for driving and uh, I like driving in those actually
Mark Ferrari the tired smoker. Uh, oh
I want to summarize
Who allen man is we talked about on the last show. Okay allen man was basically the european gene haas
allen man racing ran touring cars and did rally and did a field did gt 40 at lamar
At drivers like sterling moss and gram hill and built commas cars for oh james bond goldfinger and chitty chitty bang bang
Okay, there we go. Thank you for that
johnny ev gearberman have either of you driven a jag x kr or x kr s
Yes, I have a review of it on the fucking channel the 175 edition. Go watch it. Good video. Very fun
Cartier ll. Cartier says why?
Is it that the luxury watch industry has not adopted the customizing options that the car industry has it seems wild
Is it such a profit center for companies like ferrari?
Do watch companies rely strongly on impulse purchases?
Has it been trialed and failed before if you mean um the like specking out a watch that you sort of order?
Porsche design does that you can actually order a watch to match your car
um
Many like
Rolex has a whole
Quote off catalog section where if you're super rich and a fucking good you can order things
That are not available to the public
Um, sometimes you have input in what they look like and sometimes you don't they'll just present you with a thing and say you
Can order it if you're like a super fucking boss at patek and you get a world timer. They could put your preferred
Cities in their time zone
Thing they did that for mine. They did it. Yeah, I've seen one of those custom
Time zones before that's pretty crazy. So like I did all the cities in Ohio. Yeah
most uh
It's just the same time zone just Cleveland Cleveland you spin it around it just doesn't do anything right big time zone
um
So at a very very high level you can do some sort of customizations
Uh, most watches are are mass produced and just don't you know, they're not
Even even even Rolex even most luxury brands are the watches are made predominantly by machines and so uh,
So it's not worth the trouble for them. Yeah
Wait
Uh
Two in the ruby one on the star
I thought it would be cool if a car's turn signals and hazards could sink to the bpm of whatever music was playing in the car
Both to make driving more fun and encourage proper signaling thoughts. I think we need standards
I'm sorry. Sorry to signal to signal
and that wouldn't
That wouldn't add enough fun. It would add a lot of cost to the purchase of your vehicle
And now you need a computer to control the light tempo in every
integrated Shazam and
Near blinkers. Yeah, that would be expensive. No, no, no
Uh, lemonhead says any thoughts as to why car guys seem to hold the terminator cobra in higher regard than the s197 gt 500
Oh, would you like to take this? I don't why I mean, that's the s197 drove poorly undersized undersized rear tires
It was it was just it was a weird car
And I think especially the early the early ones were underbraked under tired
Felt like more nose heavy than the old car did. I also think there's a nostalgia element, right? Like the terminator just
Happened it landed in our brains locked in. It was the right time the terminator landed with so so
The gt 500 also had a solid axle still until 25th until the the most recent one has a solid axle
and
Or in the early in the 0708 ones like it was
Very shitty like I drove it when it was new. It was super shitty them things are trash
in
01
Ford got sued class action the cars weren't making the power
and so
They fucking they had to fix all these cars. They had to like retune them all it was very embarrassing
They said a car is never going to make less than advertised horsepower again
They their their next car had this fucking blower on it. That was the first thing
But it also had independent rear suspension
So it was the best handling mustang of all time as well with new technology and all that kind of shit
So it was a groundbreaking car in mustang
And it also happened to drive pretty good for what it is whereas the 500
Kind of didn't yeah, I mean I bet if you put equal tires on them
I bet the old car would out handle the new one just because of the live axle situation
And then the holding it higher regard is definitely among people that like
Drive the cars
Modify the cars like things like that if you asked a blue chip collector, which they'd rather have in their collection
They'd probably tell you an early gt 500 those cars aren't driven. They sit in collections. They have no miles on them
Probably because they suck to drive, but they're actually decent investments
Shelby's undriven Shelby's as we just mentioned are historically very good investments. They look cool. They made lots of power
They did not from what I've heard from people at magazines. They couldn't get it to hit the top speed that was advertised
Oh, well, that was the 2014 the 12 to 14. Yeah, so that one they couldn't but I'm talking earlier than that. Yeah
Riders on the geo storm
Oh, why because these are the new questions
So so this was repeated because we didn't cover it from last week
Is that why no, no, we just covered the repeated the old questions and now we're in new questions
But they're posted by the same page right, but we know this was that question. All right copy and paste
Uh, oh, I moved some up. That's right
Oh
Uh, uh, bb come back says what is the newest car you'd want to rest oh mod?
The newest car
In 20 years
I
Don't I wouldn't need to do anything newer than 20 years
I would take an out a new alpha quad and just redo the interior
I think the exterior is stunning and I think it's fast enough and all that stuff
But I think if you could make an interior that was equally beautiful and not just part shared with fiat
That would be pretty cool. That's not
It's not red. There's no there's no resto. That's just mod because it's new
There has to be a resto more fun to clap that one and you rest of it
Like what you know, what are we defining? It's a made up game. Who gives the shit?
Koji Koji says if you're running a rear seat delete and half cage combo in your car
Would you prefer to leave the rear interior bare metal or cover it up with some soft material like cloth?
Like gt3 club sports spec
I mean look
If you're doing that like
That's a track car, right?
But like carpet doesn't weigh very much like whatever whatever like
Basic cloth it would cost to cover up like the the bare metal part of your rear seat
Dude, it's like
Probably the same amount of weight is like a gallon of gas
Yeah, like if you're not driving for time
And it would look so like the bare metal inside on a car that's driven on the street looks like shit
It's just it looks like an unfinished vehicle
I've gone bare metal twice now the my mini I took the rear seat out
And I did not do the get the nice $800 rear seat delete cover thing
And then the fox body I took the rear seat out and did not get a professionally rear
And in both times I I absolutely regretted it. It saved me no noticeable weight at all
It just made the car louder in a bad way and especially if the car is a trunk
Which your fox body did the noise that comes through like when I fold my seats down in my car
It's so much louder the entire noise that comes through so having a panel is a good idea. Yeah
I don't it
Half cage like if you drive it on the street, I just think it looks so much nicer. It'll look like a higher class vehicle
Yeah, for sure. All right, there it is. Thanks everybody. That was the questions
We appreciate you guys very very much
Look out for these announcements for when we have
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About this episode
Road rage stories kick things off, from a brake-check crash to a “palm dale 500” warning about double-yellow passes and blind corners. The hosts also connect racing details to real driving—track limits at COTA, splitter scraping that turns into a jump, and how spotters and contact rules shape incidents. Between travel and track-day logistics, they dive deep into ZF transmission “hacks,” including a fake clutch pedal that lets an automatic do clutch-kick style moves.
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