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You know, it's getting to be that time of year.
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Well, actually, that time of year for batteries is probably year-round now, because as we've
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said for a long time, right, we see more batteries fail, I think in summer than we do in winter,
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but it's always a good time to talk about batteries.
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And I thought it would be appropriate.
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We reached out to Darryl Brockman.
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He is product planning over at Optima Battery, and we're excited to have Darryl with us and
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talk about all the new things that Optima is doing.
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Darryl, welcome to the car, doctor.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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I need to put a battery in my car.
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Let's start the simple conversation here, right?
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I need to put a battery in my car.
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I've got a 2020 Toyota Camry.
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It's got auto start.
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It's got all the bells and whistles.
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Help me put a battery in my car, Darryl.
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What am I looking for?
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I mean, usually what you would recommend is an AGM battery, especially if you have start
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stop in your vehicle.
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That is much harder on the battery.
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The battery is going to be, instead of starting the battery, you know, once when you leave
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for work and another time when you're coming back for work, you might be starting the
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car 20 or 30 times.
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And the AGM battery is what's going to give you the longest life, you know, in today's
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The electrical loads on vehicles over the last 10 years has grown exponentially and it's not
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expected to decrease.
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And the old flooded batteries just don't have the life and they're not designed to meet
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those kinds of, you know, much higher electrical requirements that today's vehicles have.
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Is it a safe assumption, dangerous word on family radio, but is it a safe assumption
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to assume that, well, if I've got an AGM battery, I don't have a secondary battery for start
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stop or, you know, and I guess the other part of that question becomes, if I do have
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that second smaller battery, if I'm changing my main battery, I should change my second
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battery too, correct?
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I mean, vehicles can have two and three batteries.
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In an EV, there's the motive battery, the one that makes the vehicle move.
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There'll be a 12 volt battery that's usually powering the cabin functions or some, you know,
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some of the core functionality.
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And then in an, even in an internal combustion engine vehicle, you know, a normal vehicle,
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those often have two batteries now where they'll have the starting battery and then they'll
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have a small auxiliary battery that's providing some backup power for some other critical
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How Optima would make a battery for my Camry, wouldn't they?
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We have actually, so we have our AGM line.
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We have red top and yellow top AGM batteries that your Camry probably takes a group 35 battery.
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We make that in both red and yellow top.
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Our red top batteries are what would be used in a vehicle that has more typical electrical
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loads where the battery is used to start the vehicle.
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And then the all charging system has enough power to keep the, to maintain electrical equilibrium.
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A yellow top battery, if you had a big audio system in your car or something with exceptional
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electrical demands, we'd suggest one of our yellow top batteries.
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That's a dual purpose battery that has great starting power in addition to the ability
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to be cycled more deeply and have long, long cycle life.
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So you've got them, you've got the batteries from my car, right?
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But then you get into what they call power sport vehicles.
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Like a power sport, like why do power sport vehicles like ATV, snowmobiles, wave runners,
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they need a specific type of battery, right?
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As opposed to the batteries that I might use in my Camry or is that, can I take my Camry
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battery and put it into a power, into a power sport vehicle if it fits?
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And the biggest difference between a power sports battery and an automotive battery
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is that those power sports batteries are much smaller.
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Optima actually introduced a line of lithium power sports batteries about two years ago.
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And they have a lot of great features.
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Lithium batteries, one of the advantages is they're very lightweight.
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A lot of people, you know, if you have a bike that's, or a power sports vehicle
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that's more performance oriented, a lithium battery is much lighter than the lead acid
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battery it replaces.
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So the, you know, the vehicle handle better.
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And again, those batteries have great cycle life.
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One of the features that our lithium power sports batteries have that really people really
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like is our Optima CPR function.
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And that's what we call our built in jump starter.
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Basically when the battery gets, if the battery gets discharged down to 35% state of charge,
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if you leave the heated grips on on your motorcycle, or if you leave the whip lights
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on on your side by side overnight, once that battery gets down to 35%, the battery automatically
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will go into sleep mode.
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It'll shut down in that 35% that it holds in reserve.
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It acts like a built in jump starter.
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You just have to press the button on the power link that's included with the battery.
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It wakes the battery up and you can start it up and be on your way.
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Wow, that's kind of cool.
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Now, is that, is that part of lithium technology?
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Because my other question was, you know, you have, and when you talk about your lithium technology,
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is that hypercore lithium, because is, or is hypercore lithium technology an optimum battery
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something specific also?
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So there's, there are a lot of different lithium chemistries in the market.
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The lithium chemistry that's used in cell phones is different than the lithium chemistry
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that's commonly used in electric vehicles.
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And the lithium chemistry that is used in our batteries is different than both of
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Optima uses a lithium iron phosphate chemistry, which is known for having excellent capabilities
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to deliver a burst of power for starting.
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But it's also widely considered the safest and the most abuse-powering lithium chemistry.
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And then even within a given chemistry type, our hypercore technology with, for a different,
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for a given cell chemistry, you can tune the performance attributes of it.
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And that's where our hypercore chemistry comes in.
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For example, our Q86 automotive starting, lithium automotive starting battery, it can crank down
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to minus 20 Fahrenheit.
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And if you check other lithium batteries that are on the market, they generally recommend
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that they're not used, certainly below zero Fahrenheit and sometimes even 10 or 20 degrees
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So I'm in Milwaukee and I can even use one of those batteries here.
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So you're saying a PowerSport vehicle, an ATV, a snowmobile, a waverunner, that can take
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But you're also saying you have lithium technology available for cars, for my Camry, for my pickup
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truck, for my whatever.
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We have a full line of lithium batteries.
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We have six different PowerSports batteries, different sizes to cover over 95 percent
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of the PowerSports vehicles on the road.
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Starting from a little 50cc scooter up to a big, big V-Twin touring bike, side by sides
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and everything in between.
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We also have a couple of lithium batteries for marine and RV applications.
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And we have a auto and truck lithium starting battery as well.
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So if you make a Group 35 lithium battery for my Camry, right?
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I'm not saying you do.
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If you do, and I want to put it in, is it a bolt in or do I need to do something
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Do I change something because my battery was originally AGM or lead acid or whatever it
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Is there a difference to the way it's going to charge or work?
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So the physical size of the battery, we don't actually make the battery that would
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a lithium battery for your Camry.
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The lithium automotive battery we make, it's an H6.
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It's the most common size used in vehicles in the US.
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It's a direct drop-in for those, drop-in replacement for those vehicles.
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And the reason that's possible is both lead acid batteries and lithium batteries, the ideal
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charging voltage is very close to 14.4 volts.
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That's also the output, the power output level of the vehicle charging system.
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So that's what enables you to be able to put a lithium battery into a vehicle that
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originally had a lead acid battery without having to change anything with the charging
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system or anything else.
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And that lithium battery gives me the advantage that I'll have more reliable starting power
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in colder weather and more durability longer lasting.
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And that and because the lithium batteries, they have a basically, they have a battery
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It's basically a computer inside and that enables a bunch of really cool features
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for our lithium automotive battery.
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I was talking about that built-in jumpstart function.
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So if you go to the airport, leave your dome light on and jump on the plane, you come back
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a couple of days later and your battery's dead.
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Our lithium automotive batteries have that same Optima CPR function.
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The cool thing about the automotive batteries is you just need to, all you have to do
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is open up the Optima Bluetooth app on your phone and it reactivates, automatically
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turns the battery on.
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You don't have to open the hood.
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You don't have to tear up all your trunk, even start the battery, but vehicle up
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Open up the app from your driver's seat and away you go.
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You're making it way too easy, Darryl.
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Take a pause on the side.
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I'm Ron Anani and the car doctor.
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Let's normally come back and want to talk a little bit about the power link system
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and some of the other things you've got going on over there at Optima batteries.
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We're here with Darryl Brockman from Optima Batteries.
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I'm Ron Anani and the car doctor.
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I'll be back right after this.
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Lately, car buying has become a pretty dull experience, but on eBay, behind every car
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Hey, look, we came back.
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Ronanini in the car doctor.
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I'm here with Daryl Brockman.
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He is the in product planning over there at Optima batteries.
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Daryl, when we pulled away, I wanted to jump in real quick to about the power link system.
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Can you talk about that real quick?
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So power link is a proprietary system with multiple patents for battery communication,
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control and charging.
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It's a it's a corded dongle that's connected to the battery and it allows you to know
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the battery status as multicolored LED.
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So for example, the LED will flash green if the battery is fully charged.
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It'll flash red if the battery needs to be charged.
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There's a button on it.
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It allows you to shut the battery down for off season storage or if you're trailing
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your side by side to the trails and you want to don't want to have to worry about it
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being powered up, you can just press the button for three seconds.
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It puts the battery to sleep.
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I mentioned Optima CPR previously, our built in jump start function.
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Just using that button on the power link is how you'd wake the battery up again.
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And then finally, there's a plug on the end that enables you to directly plug one of Optima's
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lithium enabled chargers in for easy maintenance of your battery, power sports vehicles and
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The battery is usually not very convenient to get to it can take a half hour of wrenching
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to even get to the point where you can see the battery.
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So this corded dongle allows you to basically like an extension cord so that you can
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charge your battery conveniently without having to break out your wrenching.
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It's sort of like that remote access cord you see sticking out of the grill of like a diesel
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plow truck when they want to get to the block heater or something, you're just making an
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access point easy to get to.
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And we combine that charging capability with the LEDs to know battery status and
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the ability to control the batteries.
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And then is that what feeds back to the app on the phone if we're doing that?
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So the power sports batteries, they have the power link.
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Our group 31 batteries that are used for boats and RVs, our QH6 batteries that is would be
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used in a number of cars and trucks.
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Those all have a Bluetooth app and that Bluetooth app is not only, you know, first
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question is why do I need an app for my battery?
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I don't care what my battery is doing.
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Probably the most useful feature that it has that people really have been, you know, really
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very interested in is if that battery gets discharged down to 35%, it will automatically
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go to sleep that their Optima CPR function I was talking about.
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Just opening up, you just have to open up the app and by doing that and connecting
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to the battery, it activates the battery and wakes it back up again when that built-in
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jump start function has been activated.
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You don't even have to open up the hood of the vehicle.
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You don't have to make physical contact with the, you know, dig up your trunk.
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I want to talk about safety certifications.
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Why are they so important?
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The safety certifications, I mean, there's a lot of lithium battery manufacturers and
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brands on the market.
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Agency and safety certifications are one way to know that the battery has undergone
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rigorous testing to ensure safe operation and there's both cell and battery level
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It has both, not only for the US standards, but for international standards as well.
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So you know, when people are using lithium and we hear lithium in the news all the
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time, right, we know Optima's done the research and that's where the safety certifications
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are so important that we're dealing with the cream of the crop, so to speak.
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You guys are it, that we're dealing with a good quality of lithium battery and
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technology behind it.
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Clarios is engineering team, Clarios is the world's largest battery manufacturer.
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The engineering team that supported development of these Optima batteries.
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Their normal, their normal role is developing low voltage energy storage systems for
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major audio automakers.
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Clarios is the world's largest supplier of low voltage energy storage systems for
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That same engineering team with that, with their, you know, robust product
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knowledge and experience with the technology and battery management system
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That's the team that supported development of these Optima batteries and it's
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really what enabled us to have such high performance, such a unique and
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proprietary feature set and again to have that long list of agency and safety
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Darrell, work on the listeners, go get more information.
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OptimaBatteries.com or our tech support line at 888-8Optima.
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Darrell, we'll get together again.
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I'm Ron Ananey in the car doctor.
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We'll be back right after this.
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