The “Chuck Mate” is a tool that connects to your air hose and then to your tire’s air valve. It makes it faster to let air out of the tire when you want to lower tire pressure.
When you “air down,” you let some air out of your tires for off-road trails. That helps the tire spread out and grip better on dirt, sand, or rocks, and it can make the ride less harsh.
The tire stem (valve stem) is the part on the wheel where you add or release air. Tire deflaters attach to the valve stem so they can control how quickly air comes out.
Term
release air fast
This means the tool can let air out of the tire quickly. The host is saying you can do one tire, then move to the next, and by the time you return to the first one it’s almost done. That saves time when you’re adjusting pressures on the trail.
Here, “mechanical” means the tool works with physical parts, not electronics. The host says it doesn’t use batteries or a digital display. You set it by adjusting the tool directly, then it releases air automatically to your target.
A relief valve is a safety/pressure control that lets air out when the pressure gets high enough. In this case, the tool uses a spring to release air until it hits your chosen target pressure. Then it stops so you don’t over-deflate.
PSI is how you measure tire pressure. It tells you how much air is in the tire. The host is saying these tools can be set to different PSI targets like 18, 20, or other values.
Topic
airing down for traction vs comfort
They talk about when letting air out of your tires helps—either to grip better in tricky terrain like sand, or just to make the ride smoother on bumpy gravel. They also mention that not every road type requires it.
“Street pressures” are the tire pressures you’d normally use for driving on pavement. On soft sand, those pressures can make the tire act too stiff, so it doesn’t spread out and you can get stuck.
Suspension is what helps your car handle bumps—springs and shock absorbers that keep the wheels in contact with the road. Here, they’re saying softer tires help share the work with the suspension for a smoother ride.
The Subaru Crosstrek is a small SUV/crossover that’s meant to handle more than just city streets. Here, the speaker chose it for trips that include sand and rougher roads, and they wanted it with a manual transmission.
A manual is a car where you shift gears yourself using a clutch pedal. For off-roading, that extra control can help you keep the engine in the right range when the surface gets tricky.
Clearance is how much space your car has between the ground and the bottom of the vehicle. More clearance helps you avoid getting stuck or scraping when the road gets rough.
All-season tires are a compromise tire meant for everyday driving in different weather. They can handle some dirt or sand, but they’re not the best choice for deep sand compared to more off-road-focused tires.
Front-wheel drive means the front wheels do the work of moving the car. On loose surfaces, that can make it harder to get traction than setups that can use more wheels.
Recovery is what you do if you get stuck off-road—like getting pulled out with a strap, winch, or another vehicle. The speaker is saying they didn’t have that kind of backup with them.
“Dug in” means your tires sink into soft sand or mud and you can’t move forward anymore. At that point, you may need to let air out of the tires and/or get help to pull yourself out.
“Axles down” means the car has sunk so far that parts underneath—near the wheels—are touching the ground. When that happens, it’s harder to get moving again because the car can get stuck on the sand.
Street tire pressure is the air pressure you use for regular driving on pavement. It’s usually higher so the tire feels firmer and handles predictably on smooth roads.
The contact patch is the part of the tire that actually touches the road. Lower tire pressure can make that area bigger, which helps the tire grip and stay on top of loose terrain.
“Dualies” means a truck has two tires on each side at the back instead of just one. That helps the truck handle heavier loads. Because of that, the tires may start at higher pressures than a typical passenger vehicle.
Rock crawlers are off-road rigs built for crawling over rocks at low speed. People often lower tire pressure so the tire can grip irregular rock shapes better. The tradeoff is you have to protect the rims from damage.
“Rims” are the wheel parts the tire is mounted on. If you run extremely low tire pressure, the tire can bottom out more easily when hitting rocks. Lower pressure can improve grip, but you have to protect the rims from getting damaged.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a very rugged SUV that’s built to handle difficult roads. The host is mentioning it as one of the Toyotas that did well where they lived.
The Toyota Hilux is a pickup truck that’s known for being dependable and capable. The host says they drove one a lot and describes the trim feel they had.
Four-wheel drive means the truck can send power to all four wheels. The host is explaining how their older truck let them switch into 4WD when they needed it.
A tire deflator is a tool that lets you let air out of your tires. Off-road, lower tire pressure helps the tire spread out and grip the ground better, especially on soft surfaces like sand.
STON is the name of a company that makes tire deflators. The host is saying they focus on this one product category, which they believe leads to better results even if it costs more.
Off-roading means driving on rough or unpaved ground. It usually requires different setup than street driving, especially for tires, because the surface is less predictable.
Concept
hand managed
“Hand managed” means the product is put together and checked by people, not just machines. That can help quality, but it usually costs more to make.
They’re talking about a rule that limits how big your tires can be in Australia. If you can’t run very large tires, you often have to rely more on airing down to help the tire grip in sand.
Concept
beach environment
They mean driving on sand. Sand is soft, so lowering tire pressure can help your tires spread out and not get stuck as easily.
Tire deflators are tools that let you reduce tire pressure in a controlled way, usually by attaching to the valve stem. The key advantage is repeatability—so you can air down to a target pressure without guesswork.
“Over deflate” means letting too much air out of a tire, dropping pressure below what’s appropriate. With off-road setups especially, going too low can increase the risk of tire damage and can make handling feel vague.
Staun deflaters are tools that help you lower your tire pressure for off-roading. The goal is to do it safely and consistently so you don’t end up with tires that are too full or too empty.
Brand
SCOG
SCOG is the brand name for an accessory used with tire air equipment. Here it’s part of an adapter setup that makes connecting your compressor to the tire easier.
The stawn tire deflator is a tool for letting air out of your tires. They’re explaining how it connects to the valve so you can air down, and how to make that connection quicker.
A tire inflator is a tool that adds air back into your tires. It’s what you use after you’ve let air out (like with a deflator) so you can get back to the right tire pressure.
Term
leaked
Here “leaked” means air was escaping where it shouldn’t. If the tool doesn’t seal well, it’s harder to control tire pressure and you may have to keep trying.
Taiwan is mentioned as a place with a strong reputation for making precise products. The host is saying they went there to get better manufacturing quality.
Here, “stall” means the tool’s built-in stop/auto-off behavior. They’re saying it may not shut off correctly when you try to make a small second pressure change right after the first.
A pressure gauge tells you how much air is in the tire. It helps you set the tire pressure to the exact number you want.
Term
accuracy
Here, “accuracy” means how precisely the tool can set your tire pressure to the exact number you want. Instead of guessing, it can adjust in small 1-PSI steps.
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Hello, this is Todd. I'm with Stawn Tired of Laters and Skog Tools. You can find us
on Instagram at Stawn Tired of Laters and at Skog Tools. You can also find us at stawn.us
and skogtools.com. You are listening to episode 230 of Subian New Podcast. Hello and welcome to
another episode of the Subian New Podcast. As you just heard, I have Todd on and he is with
Stawn and Skog Tools. This is actually a perfect follow-up to the episode that I had with Chris
Ingram who goes by Silveroo Off-Road because it was Chris that introduced me to Todd last year
I think it was after Overland Expo at some point because Chris was doing a giveaway for the
Stawn Tired of Laters and I reached out to Chris and I asked him about him and asked if he could
get me in touch with Todd and he said yes. This has been on my radar for a long time and great
to have him on, great to hear about Stawn and Skog and again just like a great follow-up to my
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it's called. But anyway, you have to screw it on to the valve stem. And that can be kind of a pain.
It takes a while to screw it on takes a while to screw it off. But he has a Chuck Mate, which screws
on to the end of your hose. And then it has a little lever that you use to just pop it right on
the valve stem. So I bought one of those and I bought it on Amazon because that's where they
are available. And I'm excited to use it. I haven't had a chance to use it yet because I haven't had
a chance to air down. But I know that it took some time to get that done whenever I'm out there
trying to, you know, air my tires back up. And this is really nice. So I'm excited to use it.
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hear all about his products. Let's go. Hey Todd, welcome to the podcast. It's great to have you on.
Thanks. Fun to be here. Yeah. I got in contact with you over a year ago or about a year ago
because I know that Chris, who goes by Silveroo off-road, he did a giveaway with Stonetire
Deflators and I was talking to him and he gave me your email address. So I've had your email
address for like a year and I know I emailed you back then and it's good to circle around and get
you on. Yeah. Good to meet you face to face and looking forward to our discussion. Yeah. So I know
you saw the questions I sent out and this has just kind of become a podcast or a SUBI and
you podcast thing that was brought up by one of my guests a long time ago. She goes by SLT
Trek and her name's Sierra, but she once asked the questions whether I prefer waffles or pancakes
and now it's just become a thing. So I'm asking you, do you prefer waffles or pancakes? Definitely
waffles, probably a texture thing. Yeah. I like using them to make sandwiches out of,
they got a little bit more rigidity that way. So yeah, waffle. I've done that too. I've actually,
I've made, when my kids were little, I've made peanut butter and jelly waffle sandwiches and I've
made waffle burgers and actually works out well. I'm more of a pancake guy, but I do love waffles too.
So now we can get into the important stuff, the other important stuff. So what is like Stonetire
deflaters and like why is it important? How is it used? Well, for all of us who off-road,
we most all of us know that airing down your tires when you get off the pavement is the first job,
the first chore that we end up having to do and Stonetire deflaters takes that chore that you
probably don't look forward to if you're doing it manually and it turns it into an easy task that
is actually kind of fun to do. And so it just takes a, takes an ugly thing and turns it into
something easy and fun. Yeah. For those who don't know that airing down your tires when you come
off the pavement is a good thing. We make that easy to do and it's just a great way to have a
better experience on the trail. Yeah. We were talking before we started recording and I said
that I have like the little things that you screw on to let the air out, but I have to constantly,
you know, I've done it enough times now that I kind of know when I should, you know, go check on it
again. But, but it's just, you know, it is a chore and when you're trying to do all four at the same
time, like I start one and then I put it on the next one and the next one, then I
have to keep going back and checking and make sure it's good. And so how, what is Stonetire,
what do the tire deflaters do so that you don't have to like have it be a chore like that?
Right. Yeah. No, they're, they're preset, a PSI that you can set so that if you want,
if you want to air down to 20, you set them for 20 and you don't have to babysit them then,
you just put them on and the air will start gushing out as soon as they're engaged on your tire stem.
And you could put all four on and go have a coffee with friends and when you come back,
they're done. Most people's experience and it's going to vary depending of course on
your individual tires and whether you've got 32s or 40s or whatever you have. But in general,
you can put one on each tire, it comes in a set of four. And by the time you get around to the
first tire again, it's either close to being completed, it really does release air fast.
And then you could just take it off. And so it's, it's one quick trip around to put them on,
maybe a minute, maybe it's done already depending on what pressure you set. And then you just go
around, take them off. You don't drive with them on. I get asked that quite a bit. Will it keep my
pressure at 20 while I'm driving? No, no, no. You take them off. We don't want any damaged
tire valve stems because you have this protrusion sticking out. But yeah, they're,
they do the dirty work of managing the air down and they're very good at shutting off at the pressure
that you haven't dialed into. So is it a mechanical device and like, how do you set it? And then like,
how does it work? And then like, is it something that you just push onto the valve or do you have
to screw it on? It does screw on. And it is mechanical, no batteries, no digital. It's old
school. There's a very high precision spring inside that manages essentially what is a relief valve.
And yeah, setting the, they do come the standard set. We can talk a little bit later about what
the different versions are that they make. But the standard set, you can dial in anywhere between
six and 30 psi. It comes from the factory set at 18. But then to adjust that, there's some
instructions on the card. And typically people will use a spare tire because you, to set it,
you actually start with a known pressure tire of what your target is. And then you do a small
procedure to get it dialed into that. I was going to say this for later where I'll mention since
we're talking about now, there is a new version that's just about the release in June. And there
are other tools similar to ours that have gauges on them. We finally felt comfortable enough as a
brand to have an accurate gauge on there that's just as accurate as what the tool is when it's
set properly. So the procedure is changing. It's getting a lot easier to set on the trail.
Some people just leave it at 18 or 20 and they never change it. That's what they drive when
they're on the trail. And you can still do that. But some people like to manage it here and there
and change it for the day or the terrain type. Now that's going to be easy to do as well.
Okay, that's good. Yeah. And airing down is definitely important. Of course, it kind of
depends on the type of terrain that you're on. If you're just driving like a back dirt road,
or something you may not necessarily need to air down. But if it's a gravel road and it's kind
of a bumpy gravel road, I know that people don't air down. I like to air down on a gravel road
not because like I need more traction, but it's definitely a lot more comfortable with softer
tires. Yes. Yeah. You've touched on the two primary reasons that you would air down and that is to
get more traction for those who are in a scenario where they need that extra traction. Sand would
be the classic example if you've ever driven in sand. Don't try street pressures in the sand.
Maybe on Daytona Beach where the sand is so compact, you can get away with it. But if you're
in any kind of soft sand, it just doesn't work well and you're going to get stuck. But the other
one which I have more my experience has been like yours where it just rides a lot better.
You think about, we all have suspension in our vehicles and the soft tire works as a supplement
to that suspension. And so the two working together takes the pressure of offered to your
suspension, the shocks off your shocks, so to speak. And that translates into just a smoother
ride for the driver. Yeah. We went out to, it's funny because when I bought my cross-track,
my first, because I live in Houston, but my first off-road experience was in Colorado. Me and my
kids drove all the way out there, met up with a couple of guys that were previous guests on the
podcast and they took us off-road. But we found this, we saw like that there was this waterfall
somewhere and we're like, oh, we want to go up and check it out. So when we were driving up,
the whole entire way was, it was gravel and it was kind of thick gravel. And it was just,
it was so bumping. At first I didn't air down because it is a bit of a chore. And so, and I
don't even think I had those things yet to release the air. I think I just kind of did it manually,
you know, and with, and with the keys. Yeah. I've seen it all. I've seen all kinds of tools
people come up with to do it. Yeah. So I think that was kind of how I had to do it. Thankfully,
I had my air compressor to air back up. But I was like, this is just too bumpy, like I can't
take it. So I aired down and we had four people in the car. So four adults. And so it, you know,
when I aired down, it was a lot softer. But, you know, and you can totally feel it too.
And I mean, it makes a big difference. But yeah, those would have been nice to have in that
situation. Yeah. No, that's a, that's a perfect scenario for where, um, yeah, it just can make
an unenjoyable ride and enjoyable on very quickly. Yeah. Uh, you talked about sand. So
the reason I bought my Crosstrek is one, because I just, when I saw my phone, I fell in love with
them. And then mine is a manual. So when I found out that they came in a manual, I'm like, I have
to get it. And then I have to get one in a manual. And then I wanted the ability to get off the pavement
because like we have family reunions in East Texas and we, uh, we would go out there and there's been
times when I would drive in previous cars and find roads that I couldn't go down because I just
didn't have the clearance. It was only front wheel drive. And so my thinking was like, that's when
I'm going to use my car to go off road. But having it within the first three weeks, completely stock,
you know, the all season tires or whatever it comes with, there's a, uh, an off road park here
north of Houston. And I didn't know, I didn't really know anything about it, but I get up there
and I get to the booth and the guy was, I was like, do you think my car is going to be okay?
Because I'd never really driven off road. And he said, well, I've been told not to turn anybody
away. So I went in and there was a lot of sand and I was driving through the sand with my stock
tires, not airing down, not with anybody, no recovery, anything. It made it through, but there
was one point where it started getting kind of deep and softer. And I was like, I think I should
probably turn around and, and I did. But that was like, that was my first off-roading experience
with my car was taking it to a situation where it could have turned out very badly. Thankfully,
it didn't. No, you're, you're fortunate. And that's the thing about sand is you don't always know
where it's going to get soft and where it isn't. Yeah. So you kind of have to be ready for it.
Cause once you're dug in and you can air down if you're stuck and potentially to pull yourself
out, it depends. I mean, if you got axles down in it and stuff, you're probably not going to get
out. So, but if you stop soon enough when you're stuck and then air down, that might,
that might give you the recovery that you, that you're looking for. Yeah. And unfortunately,
I had no way to air back up. So I knew about airing down, but I didn't have an air compressor yet.
I didn't have any recovery boards of any kind. So, and, and again, I was there by myself. I mean,
I was with my son, but he was like, I don't know, 16 at the time. So like, I didn't know anybody there.
I would have been totally screwed, you know, and it would have had to like hang my head down and go
ask somebody in this big giant truck, you know, can you find a way to help me out? Sometimes you
learn the easy way. Sometimes you learn the hard way. Yeah. Thankfully I made it out. But
yeah, sounds like you got the pre lesson there. Yeah. So you had mentioned something earlier
too about like tire pressure. I guess it just depends on your, as far as like what to air down to
depending on, you know, the size of your tire and everything, do you have like,
especially if you don't have any bead lockers, because, you know, I know that if you air down
too much, your tire can pop off the wheel. But do you have like kind of a recommended safe zone
to where like, if you're not really sure, you could air down to this and most likely be okay?
Yeah, I have to be careful with what I'm doing.
No, I'm sure. I know, I know. But yeah, there are some guidelines that I use personally for
myself. And, you know, I'm not a rock crawler, you know, the rock crawler guys, like you say,
have bead locks and, you know, aren't at risk of losing the bead. They are at risk of damaging
the rims if they're really aggressive. Yeah. But yes, for us normal folks without bead locks,
you do have a, I mean, that's the risk when you go too far with it. And that's,
that risk is exacerbated by aggressive driving or fast driving, you know, how much,
how much you expect your tire to endure when you're using it. So, you know, slow, careful
driving, you're going to be less likely to lose a bead in those scenarios. So it's not really
just about pressure. It's about your driving style. But, you know, I encourage people to
experiment and experiment conservatively. You can always leave more air out of the tire.
You can always walk it down and see how it feels to you. In the end, you want to achieve your
objective. Okay, so this ride's pretty smooth, or I'm getting the traction that I need. And,
you know, you can adjust as you need to. But, you know, if I'm running street tires or street
pressures that are 35 ish, 38, I'll come down to the 20s. I, I'm not, I typically won't need to
come down below 20 to achieve my objectives. Again, I'm not the most aggressive driver in the world
either. In sand, I'm going to be a little bit more aggressive than, than that, perhaps depending
again on the beach and the tires and the vehicle that I'm using, how close or how close is help.
I've been on some beaches where help was not nearby and I was more aggressive in making sure
I had the footprint and didn't get buried in somewhere. So, yeah, experiment, be conservative,
you know, taking 20, 30% off of your street tire pressure is probably a fair place to start.
Yeah. And that's the way you touched on pretty much what I do is like mine. I run my street
pressure at about 38. And then I've usually aired down to like maybe 25. And that's a comfortable
range. Not that I like, I'm afraid to go lower. But again, like most of the roads that I'm driving
on are gravel roads. So at 25, it just makes it softer. And because like where I'm going, I don't
really need to worry about traction so much because it's just like forest roads that are, that are
gravel roads. And for me, it's just more of a comfort thing. And again, I know people that
won't air down because they're like, I don't really need to. There's no, there's no terrain that I
need the extra traction. So I'm not going to do it. But I just, I don't like the, how bumpy it gets.
Yeah. I mean, if your teeth are chattering, you're not having fun. But if you're smiling at 25,
just keep smiling. Yeah, no, it's definitely definitely doable that way. So as far as like,
I know that there's some different models. Can you like, or versions, can you go over that? And
when you said that you're going to be releasing like new versions, are all of those different
types going to be updated across that? Good question. Yeah. The three versions that have been
selling for over 20 years is the standard heavy and light duty. Some people think that's about the
durability of the tool. It's actually more focused on what the vehicle type is. So for standard vehicles,
standard offer of vehicles, the SD we call it, which airs you down, like I mentioned earlier,
to anywhere between six and 30 psi. That's not your street pressures. That's where your target is
of where you want to air down to. Yeah. The heavy duty we sell, maybe 10% are sets, so it's heavy
duty. That's for the guys who are street pressures running 80 psi heavy trucks. There's the heavy
duty part. Yeah. You've got dualies. You've got a camper on the back. You're towing. You're running
these heavier pressures. You might not want to take an 85 street pressure tire down to 30 or 25.
That's a huge percentage. Yeah. I've not seen it tried. Those guys want to air down some more,
you know, maybe 50 or 45 or whatever the case may be. That's higher than our standard of 30. So this
15 to 55 range gives them an option to air down as well. And then the rock crawlers use the one
to 10. Some rock crawlers run around on one psi. Like I say, it's really about protecting their
rims at that point, but the amount of traction they get is pretty phenomenal when they're doing that.
Yeah. Yeah. And then all of those models will get updated.
They won't. Two will. The manufacturer is not going to do the LD, the light duty,
is not very popular in Australia. It's just not a rock crawling isn't such a thing like it is here.
I think the train, there are much more beach drivers there. The beach opportunity and the flat
outback is kind of what the Australian train is. So he hasn't sold many of those. We honestly didn't
sell many in the States either, but they're not going to upgrade those. The SD and the HD are
getting upgrades. The SD will be launched first. Sometime this summer, I'll probably have the HD
with the gauge built in, but the first launch will be in the one that 90% of people purchase.
Okay. Which is the 6 to 30 psi with the getting joint. All right. That's good.
So yeah. So it sounds like the SD is one that's sold the most. And it seems like,
especially for my listeners too, that's where they're going to fall because we're running
super drivers. Super drivers aren't going to want these. They're not going to need an HD.
No, not at all. So just out of curiosity, what do you drive off road?
Yeah. My most recent one was a four runner. We had to give that up because of a move. We're
a drive area, but we're taking care of some elderly family this season in life. But yeah,
I'm kind of a Toyota fan. The four runner was good for us. And we've lived overseas for quite
a few years and Toyota just dominates in a lot of the markets we ran. So land cruisers and
Hilux, which is in the model you see here, but driven quite a bit of Hilux. It's kind of like
the SR5. And in fact, my first ride was a 1985 SR5 extended cab that I just fell in love with.
I was 17 when I bought it. Wish I still had it. It'd be worth 10 times what it was worth.
Yeah. My uncle had a, it was a 1985 Toyota truck. I don't remember exactly. I mean,
I'm guessing they didn't have a lot of models back then the way they do now.
So it probably was an SR5. Yeah. And I think it was just a regular cab,
but I went with him to pick it up and, and it was a manual and, you know, you have the little,
like the old Scott old school like pool, you know, for the handle for the emergency brake.
But I think that's part of where my fascination came with manuals is watching him drive that.
And it was a really cool truck. Yeah. You had two sticks there. Basically,
you had the big one for the, you know, regular gearbox and then right behind it,
you had your four wheel drive. Yeah. Or was it the other way around? Maybe it was the other way
around. But yeah, you could vary as long as your hubs were locked in, they were manual locks on the
front. As long as you had that hooked in, as soon as you needed two to four, you just clutched in
and pulled it, pulled it back and often four wheel drive you went on. It was, it was a, it was a fun
drive. Yeah. And my grandpa had a, I think it was like a, a 19, gosh, like 75 Bronco maybe.
And it was just a two door, but he had, yeah, I think he had mud tires on it, but he had the
locks in the front. Cause I remember he would get out, go lock him. And then it had the, the
shifter on the column. Yeah. I was like three on the tree. That was so cool. Yeah. One of my best
friends I grew up with, his dad had a 1971 Bronco and we would pull boats in and out of the Leakida.
He was a boater. And so we'd always have to lock him in when we were pulling the boat out of the wet,
wet ramp. And yeah, he, my friend still has that now it's worth a lot of money. They kept it
and had it rebuilt and it's worth like six figures now. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. I wish that my grandpa,
like, I wish I would have known more about, about it back then and like what, like how awesome it
was. You know, I always thought it was cool, but you know, when you're a kid, you don't really think
about ahead and think of those things. And I didn't really have like the place or the money to like
keep it. But yeah, that thing was, that thing was so cool. And he had like, he had some kind of like
aftermarket exhaust on it. So it was loud and it was just always fun to ride around.
Yeah, that's classic, classic. That's something I would love to have at some point, you know,
if I could ever do it. But also, I mean, and I like Toyotas, you know, I mean, a lot of us in
the Subaru community like Toyotas. And, you know, if for some reason something happens and people
decide to get rid of their Subaru, people move over to Toyota because I mean, they're just,
they're reliable and they're capable. And, you know, I think the, I think the allure with Subaru
is that they're very affordable. They're way more capable than people realize or give them credit
for. And they're good on gas and they're just, they're fun. They're, and they're, they're quirky
looking too, you know, which I think is that's part of the appeal too. Yeah, no, again, I mean,
the brand, the brand is well founded and just the years of focus and experience that they've had
in off-roading is, is, is hard to touch. And I mean, that, that's, that really is a point about
STON as well. STON has been so focused on just tire deflaters. You know, a lot of the competition
that's out there, they're tire deflator is one of 50 off-roader products that they make. So they're
not necessarily focused on that. They're probably outsourcing the manufacturing to
some company in Asia or something who's making them. And that ends up being a very different
product than the Australian mechanic who's been running this for 20 plus years who designed it,
built it. He still tests everyone, assembles everyone, every deflator is hand managed. And
that's part of where the cost comes from. I mean, hey, we're more expensive than the rest,
there's no doubt. But they, their whole brand is the product. And you know, I've told people
before, if you want a great burger, you don't look for a menu that has a thousand items on it.
You look for the shop that sells burgers. Yeah, yeah. And that's going to get you the best burger
every time, pretty much. And yeah, STON's kind of a one-man show, one product show. And to some
extent, a one-man show, he's handing it back over to the son as he gets, as he gets older. So he's
some lineage and history coming into the brand or into the product.
So do you have a little bit of the history as far as like when it started and like why and how?
Because like, that's something I'm always interested in, because like sometimes people start
something up because they were trying to solve a problem or an issue for themselves. And then
like somebody else sees it and like, Hey, where'd you get that? It's like, why made it? You know,
or sometimes it's like you see that there's an issue or a need and so you make it for the masses.
So do you have some history on that? Yeah, he was hands-on. I mean, it was first person for sure.
And what's interesting about Australia is, as I mentioned, beaches are the primary place that
people four-wheel there. And let us sort of have some reason to go through the outback.
But there's a lot of islands in the area in Queensland where, I mean, the great barrier
reef is often that area of Queensland. It's the northeast side of the country.
But it's common to off-road on the islands and the way they get their vehicles out,
there's on barges. So I don't know if you've ever had a chance to take your car on a barge
here in the States to cross. I've done that in Seattle, you know, you drive the vehicle onto
the barge. And let me tell you, they pack them. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're talking about like the,
yeah, to go across. Yeah, I actually did that. I was in a borrowed car, a Subaru from one of my
friends and me and my son took it from like Seattle somewhere across to this other place.
That was the first time I'd ever done that. But yeah, go ahead. Seattle's the first place I've
done it in the States. I've done it overseas some, but yeah, the States, that's a common place to
to use it. So you know how packed it is when those vehicles are in there. So in Australia,
for these beaches where they'll ride, the barge will actually drive the vehicle onto the beach.
Wow. Drive onto the street and then go to the beach. You actually unload onto the beach.
That's crazy. So you're starting on street pressures and then guys were on the way over on
the barge. They wanted to air down. And so these guys were watching people trying to squeeze up
between the cars, get down. I mean, you talk, you know, airing down the tire is now try to do that
with 12 inches between you and the next vehicle. And it suddenly becomes an extra pain of a chore.
Yeah. So they had that classic question, there's gotta be a better way than this. What is it?
And they pursued the solution. So yeah, that ride on the barge one day had the lightbulb moment
for them and led to the development of the product. Do you know like roughly what year that was?
98. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, those are the kinds of situations where it's like,
you definitely have a problem and there's got to be a better way to do this.
Exactly. Exactly. So like has, I mean, I'm guessing Ston sells worldwide.
So like is Australia the biggest market, I'm guessing?
It is. And you know, when you look at, I mean, US is the second largest market for them. And
I think per capita, it might be a bit different because there's more people that live in the
States. But what I've kind of come to realize from a global marketplace is access is one issue.
But drive them, you know, the four wheel drive market, what's its size, but what then opportunities
do they have to be in the type of train where you want to air down? And Australia just has
endless beaches you can drive. We don't have that here. I mean, if you're an environmentalist,
you're happy about that. If you're not, you wish you could drive on the beach.
But there's so much opportunity in Australia to off-road. And interestingly, in Australia,
this is kind of a side point. They have a, they have, you can't have more than a 32 inch tire in
Australia. They don't legally, well, you can't drive on the street with it. Maybe you can't off-road.
But so these guys are stuck with smaller tires, I think 32 is the max, but it's not a huge tire.
And so they really need to air down in order to manage the beach environment there. So yes,
that's their biggest market hometown advantage. They've got their own country brand that they're
they're proud of. And the US is definitely the second, second largest market. We obviously have
a big community here. And yeah, a lot of people know the name Stalin. Yeah, it's, it's funny when
you mentioned, you know, they can only have tires of a certain size, because you hear that in other
countries where it's like, because I've heard, I know I've connected with people, you know,
in other parts of the world, and they're like, Oh, we're not allowed to have this, and we can't
have this, and we can't have that. And then you see some of the stuff that people do over here,
you know, especially you've got a gigantic truck with this, you know, these massive tires that
are driving on the road. And it's like, why, dude, why? Like, why did you just spend, you know,
$150,000 on this truck just to not ever take it off road or anything?
There's a lot of, Americans put a lot of identity into their vehicles.
I think probably more so than just about anywhere in the world I've been.
Yeah, I would agree. I think so. And I think it's probably because we because we can, you know,
there are certain restrictions, you know, but there's a lot that you can do and not have anybody
say anything about it. Yeah, yeah. The culture of America and its vehicles is strong and has a
strong foundation. And we, you know, Europe has public transportation that just knocks us out of
water. And so they don't even, they don't depend on vehicles like we do in such a large country.
Of course, Australia would be the same way. You don't take public transport between cities
that you drive and all these opportunities to use a four-wheel drive as present in both markets.
Yeah. I mean, like I mentioned earlier, I live in Houston. And so there is public transit here, but
there's not public transit everywhere. So like, if I want to go somewhere, like I have to drive or,
you know, I mean, I have a, I have a grocery store just down the road. Like it's probably a
quarter of a mile and I can walk it and I have walked it, but I usually drive. Yeah, sure. Well,
you're like most people then. Yeah. But I also like driving my car. That's part of the excuse too.
So like any excuse to go take it out. Do y'all have like any customer stories or testimonials from
Stan? Yeah. And I kind of think of them batches in my head of different categories of what I hear
from people. And, you know, I definitely hear from people on a routine basis who talk about having
their set for 10, 20 years and love it. So I mean, that's, that's, that just shows the durability
of the brand is there, they're not something that wears out and just, you know, breaks after a year
or two. It's a long-term tool. But yeah, another category is people who just never heard of it
and they're on the trailhead and they're the one down there doing what you've done on your tire
and then they see their buddy over there standing up or, you know, drinking his coffee and you can
hear he's airing down because you hear the tires hissing and they're like, how are you doing that?
Well, let me show you, you know, and just the camaraderie and the, I mean, we all love, I'm
sure you know, we all love sharing the tools that we love and use when we commute out on the trail.
You know, what do you got? So I really think that's the strongest element of how we get news
out to people is word of mouth and people just love their stawn and they're happy to talk about
them. But I mean, one, this is a bit of an odd story. I was actually in New Zealand and I was at
a, one of their outdoor parks in the southern part of the country and we rented and this wasn't,
this was a, what do you call it, like a UTV type of vehicle. So it didn't have any good suspension
on it and it had tires that were way too over inflated and we're driving over dry river beds
and rock beds and driving up to this lake and seeing the mountains just getting our teeth
shattered out through the whole thing. Oh yeah. And we got back and I said to the guy, have you
ever heard of stawn tire deflaters? He's like, no, what are those? And I'm like, well, they're made
in Australia and, you know, I didn't have any with me to give them or I would have given them a set.
I said, they sell them here in New Zealand, try to find a set and air down your tires because
your customers will love you for it and bless his heart. He sent me an email like three months
later. He said, I did what you told me and he said, I can't believe I never knew about these
before. He said, this is just transforming my customer experience and, you know, he was just
really grateful. So yeah, I mean, that's a situation where when you don't have great suspension on a
vehicle, the tires make all the difference in the world where they're set at. So your suspension
will love you when you have good suspension. You probably spent a lot of money on it if you've,
you know, really invested in your rig and a lot of things. So you just give it a break. Yeah.
No, that's a really good point though, because like he, you know, obviously had suspension that
was not doing well with, you know, fully inflated tires. And so being able to air them down made
the difference. Because yeah, because our suspension in our cars definitely helps some,
but like in that situation, yeah, I can't imagine like how rough that must have been.
Yeah. No, that was, I mean, it really tainted the whole experience not being able to,
you know, kind of pay attention to what you're seeing when you're busting with that. But yeah,
that's what stands out. So if somebody was like on the fence about potentially purchasing,
I mean, tire deflating tires is important to begin with. But like,
as far as like getting the stawn tire deflators, like what would you, what would your pitch be?
Like your elevator pitch, I guess? Yeah. Well, I mean, at a general level, it's like,
once you ride there, stand up while you air down. Oh yeah. So I'm over 50 now. And I have a lot of,
I mean, that's another category of people I hear from. It's like, I'm so happy to not be down on
my knees or squatting down or, you know, having to have this intimate time with my tires anymore.
I'm just a lot happier standing up. But you know, when it comes to the brand, I often tell people,
you know, if, would you just let somebody you don't know, let some kid you don't know,
walk up and do your tire air down for you? Well, maybe not because if you over inflate,
over deflate, now you have another job. Yeah. You gotta go get your tire inflator out, you
gotta go around and fix it. And yeah, you don't want to over uninflate. You don't want to over
do it. And so stawn more than any brand I've looked at, it's accurate. You know when it's done.
That's another thing that you can buy the cheap knockoffs that are out there. And they'll let air
out and then that air will just slowly fade away. And you're like, is it done? Oh, while it's still
trying to get to the pressure? Yeah, because it's not a clean shutoff and it might just ooze air
until you finally just give up, you know, unscrew it and then you get your pressure gauge out and
see what's it said at. Yeah. So it takes the fun away. But once you, you just stawn, you learned
to very quickly trust it. And then you put them on, you walk away, you're done. I mean, it's just,
but if you're always worried, is it gonna over inflate? Over, I keep saying over inflate,
over deflate, then yeah, it just takes the fun away. And yeah, they'll be with you,
they'll be with you for a long time. They're not gonna break.
So how did you get into working with stawn and like how long have you been using them?
Yeah, I had not heard of them until I was working in the Middle East for a company in Dubai,
who was their rep in the United Arab Emirates. So they were selling a huge dune market, huge
off road dune market there. I don't know how much you know about Dubai, but I've been on some of
these tourist things when I was there, where they take you out on the dunes and they show off, you
know, it was kind of scary. Oh my gosh. There's a big four-wheel drive community there. And so
my employer was selling those, distribute them. And when I went back to the States,
they introduced me to the owner and said, you know, he's a good guy, you know, he's selling on Amazon,
why don't you check him out and see if he can rep for you in the US. So we helped them to get
their brand under control and looking good on Amazon. Before that, it had just been random
people selling them and competing with each other and things just, it didn't look like the brand
that it is, which is, you know, a tenured high quality brand. So yeah, yeah, that was back
when you were the back in 2018, I think is when I started helping them to get their product on
Amazon. Nice. And is that where it's primarily or only sold? Is on Amazon now? It's our primary
outlet. That's where the vast majority sell. We do have some, some store distributors across the
country, not a lot, but yeah, there's a few scattered here and there. You can find that,
find those listed on our stawn.us website. Okay. So I know that we're primarily talking about
stawn deflaters, but there's also another product which I just purchased from Amazon the other day
and it's a SCOG and it's, I bought, it's the Chuckmate and it's an adapter for my threaded hose
from my ViAir compressor that I have to sit there and turn
turn to get on my valve stem and then it's a pain to get it off. And then like also the wheels that
I have, part of the wheel wraps around the valve stem and so it makes it even more difficult to
get to the valve stem, but it's, it's to protect it. Yeah. So I bought this Chuckmate which screws
onto the end of my hose and then I has a little lever and I just pop it onto my valve stem and
it's awesome. I love it. Yes. Yes. I know a bit about those because I'm the, I'm the founder of that
brand and that it's, it's well connected to my experience with stawn because
just like you're describing screwing on and off, on and off every tire while you're doing that
four times if you're airing down your Subaru or your, you know, whatever you're driving and,
you know, finding this light bulb in my mind, it's like they make speed clips for these, you know,
four different uses. I'm like, I bet we can hook that up to a stawn tire deflator and now you're
just popping it right on and popping it right off. And it's like, so I started getting some samples
and realizing, yeah, that works. That does fine. And put together a four pack of those to
compliment and to sell to people who were purchasing stawn tire deflators and got, got pretty good
feedback from that. So, um, yeah, that's, that's kind of how that started. That was 2022 or 2023.
Yeah, a few years ago. And so explain again, like how it works with the stawn tire deflator and like,
like how it complements it because you said you just pop it on. So how do you end up like
using it in conjunction with it? Exactly. It pretty much is the same way you're experiencing
the benefit with your buyer hose. So it sits between the deflator or your home.
Yeah, it sits between that and it clips on to the tire stem instead of screwing it on and off each
time. Okay. So you've got valve stem, scog, then the stawn. So then that way you don't have to screw
the stawn tire deflator. Okay, now it makes sense. Yeah, I was, I was trying to, I'm a very visual
person. So, uh, yeah, now I get it. Oh, that's, that's really cool. Cause yeah, that's, that just
helps the process go even faster. Yeah. I mean, it's just, I call it compounding convenience.
And you've got this convenient tool, you know, you're stawn tire deflator, but it's a little bit
inconvenient to be putting a moment off every time. And so any, if I spend a few bucks and save
myself minutes every time I air up and down, that to me is an easy sell. And we sold them as the
force set for stawn for a couple of years. And then we realized people were buying them for their
tire inflators, just like you purchased it for. And again, you've got the convenience of a portable
tire inflator, but you're having to do this extra work. So we started selling them and focusing on
that market of the inflator market. And it's a much larger market, as you can imagine. And
people just love them. And, uh, yeah, the brand Chuck Minates really sticks, uh, sticks well with
the product. And I think we've been number one in tire chucks on Amazon US since late last year.
Oh, very nice. Really popular on, on Amazon. I can see why. So, uh, was that like another situation
where you have this issue with having to screw on your stawn tire deflator and you're like,
there's got to be a better way. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. It was, it was the only pain point in the
process. And I'm just, I, that's just the way my mind thinks is there's always got to be an
improvement. There's always a more efficient way to do everything. And, uh, it drives my wife,
not sometimes, but, um, occasionally, I think it yields like ball moments. And you're like,
okay, let's, let's take this made for that and put it with this and you end up with a great
union together. And, uh, yeah, it just makes life a little better. So how did you go about the,
like actual design process and how it needed to work and, and then going into actual like
manufacturing and, you know, I guess give us a little history of, of coming up with the brand
and, and starting to sell. Yeah, sure. The, um, I, I had already done some sourcing from,
from China. And so I, I brought in samples from there of the product and was not happy with,
um, yeah, wasn't happy with how well they gripped, how well they, you know, leaked or didn't leak.
And you could just tell the, um, quality wasn't up to where I needed it to be to put my name on it.
And so I kind of had the like a ball moment to, you know, to go to Taiwan. I think we all know
that Taiwan has a higher reputation for manufacturing precision and a lot of our hardwares that we
buy here in the States are coming from Taiwan. And so, um, I found somebody to work with on that.
We, we did some design work with them. We made sure that it worked properly with strong tired
of laders and, and we, you know, we let them be our manufacturing partner, which we still work with
today. Nice. So, uh, how did you go about like marketing it? Yeah, I, I have a designer
that I've worked with for quite a few years. Um, and, you know, he and I just did brainstorming
sessions and we were both wordsmiths. We love catchy names and double meanings and all these
kind of fun things you can play around with words. And, uh, yeah, we kind of stumbled on
Chuck mates as being an open, open opportunity to, to label them and thought that's, that's what
they are. And of course the Australian kind of source of our original idea was getting strong
tired of laders. As you probably know, mate, mate is a common thing you call your friend in Australia.
And so that, that also probably influenced the brand name itself is that we're bringing in that,
that mate part. They do mate together as tools and, you know, it obviously is a Chuck. So,
yeah, it's all fell into place. And then as far as the name scog, where did that come from?
Yeah. Yeah. Um, scog is, uh, the Swedish name for forest. And of course the off-roading community
is, is kind of where all this founded it from. And so I thought, what a great, what a great four,
four letter word to bring in. It's hard to find those anymore in marketing spaces that aren't
already used, but we couldn't trademark it because it is a, a word, a generic word in,
in another language. So we added the fun little umlau to the top, the two little dots just to
give it some character and also make it trademarkable. And, uh, yeah, that's, that's kind of our,
our umbrella brand that we hope to branch out to in the future, add some other lines, but
Chuck made started to get, uh, to get really sticky with our customers and the name. So we
went ahead and trademarked that as well and, and have had that as, as kind of our first major line
of products. Very nice. And there's like a couple of different versions of the Chuck mates, right?
There are. Yes. Good. Good point. The, um, the primary, while there's two lines, there's a premium
line, which was our original line, which is kind of a more traditional solid brass construction
and has the kind of classic trigger on it that you'll see used a lot of places. So you trigger
on and then you trigger off to get it on and off your stem. Um, we ended up connecting with a
manufacturer who was able to do a design where it's a push on and pop off. So, uh, with the platinum
version, it has a, a ratchet and an all on the inside, which means basically you don't have to
trigger on and off. You just push and it'll carefully just work its way on until there's a
spring loaded seal behind it. So it just makes it a little more user friendly. It makes it a little
bit more, uh, foolproof, uh, that it's going to give you a good seal and it just kind of looks cool,
has a different look to it and, uh, you know, has a chrome chrome finish to it versus the brass.
Yeah, I saw that just a little bit of pizzazz, uh, compared to the, the, the classic premium line.
And then we do have a special version that's used for duallys for the guys who have the dually
truck, you know, that inner, you've probably seen, usually, usually one, uh, valve stem sticks in.
And so you need either to, uh, a special foot thing that you have to
scream, you know, hold down there and hold on while you're airing it up. But this locking
mechanism that's in our platinum line, um, actually allows you to lock on, then you can stand up,
run your inflation, get your pressure set, and then just push a button on it and it releases,
and you can take it back off your duallys. So yeah, that's, uh, that's popular with our, our,
heavier truck fan. And the last, the most recent product in that line we introduced was the tire
pressure gauge. Um, I've tried a lot of pressure gauges that aren't accurate. Um, the ones you pay
five and 10 and 20 bucks for often did not meet my accuracy standards. And if you're going to air
down to a certain PSI, you kind of want to know it's right and that you're always getting the
same amount. So the same Taiwanese company we're working with, um, put together a gauge for us
that has our platinum line chart on the end, and it also has a nice big bleed valve on it. So
it's actually an interesting point to make about stalling. I do occasionally run into people who
they'll air down to, let's say from 35 to 20, and then they decide they want to air down to 18.
Well, putting, resetting the stall on to 18 and going from 20 to 18 actually doesn't work very
well. Um, that is a limitation of the device. You don't get enough airflow moving. You don't get
enough standardization in the airflow for it to turn off properly. So for small adjustments,
you know, less than five or 10 PSI, really using a different tool to make a fine tune
adjustment is a better way to go than putting the tire deflator back on again. And so our,
our pressure gauge has a very nice big bleed valve on it. You can just pop it on the stem,
hit your bleed valve and reach straight off the gauge. And if you want to take two PSI off,
you're not down on the tire very long to make that happen.
Yeah, no, that's a really good point. That's, uh, yeah, because I can see where the stall
and tire deflator is like, if you know that you're going to air down to a certain PSI every
single time you go off road, kind of no matter, you know, the conditions or whatever, then that
makes it easy. But yeah, those fine tune adjustments says that's a good point because there's been
times when I'll be airing down. And again, I have to manually gauge it. And I'm at like 25 or
something. I'm like, you know what, maybe I want to go back, go down to like 22 or something.
And I've got to do a little bit more. Yeah. So yeah, this tool makes it really easy to do that.
And yeah, so that's, that's the basic options now on our Chuck Mays line.
And all of those are found on Amazon as well? They're all found on Amazon. If you type amazon.com
slash scog, SKOG, you'll go right to our store. Same way with Ston, amazon.com slash Ston,
and you'll go to the Amazon or the Ston store and see, see those different versions that are
available. Okay. Anything else you want to share about either brand or yourself or experiences?
Well, the only one thing I didn't mention about the Ston, the new version that I think is, is
a bit distinguishable from a lot of the other brands, well, any other brand that's out there
is they actually incorporated a system that you can actually dial in per individual PSI.
So any other deflator you'll find on the market that has a gauge, you're going to have to kind of
eyeball it and, you know, kind of guess, is it going to be 21? Is it going to be 22? What's it
going to be? Where Ston has incorporated into their system and a very easy way to change it
one PSI higher or one PSI lower. And I think the others aren't probably afraid to promise that kind
of accuracy, but Ston is not. And so for the guys who really want to be precise, the ability is in
that Ston Tire Deflator to do so. And I think that's going to help set it apart in the market
as we launch into that. Yeah. And I've heard a lot of good things about Australian products.
Yeah, it's good stuff. Well, yeah, I think I've known the owner Steve for many years. And if
there's one thing that I know is for true about him is he is passionate about having a quality
product. And so that's why his brand has become so popular over 20 years is because it has his
heart and soul in it. And you just don't find that other places. Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah,
it's good stuff. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to hop on the mic. Yeah. And I
appreciate your time and look forward to using my Chuckmate for the first time. I already put it
on and just put it on the stem and everything. But I look forward to actually using it off-road
at some point. Good deal. Appreciate that. And yeah, I enjoyed the chat. Yeah. So thanks again.
Hope you enjoy the rest of your week. And I'll get this episode out. This episode will come out,
I believe it's June 8th, I believe, when I said so. I'll be interested to share it with the
Subaru community. I know it'll be a good listen. Good. Good. Appreciate it. All the best to you.
Yeah, thank you. You have a good day. Thanks. All right. Bye. Thank you for tuning in to another
episode of the Subaru and you podcast. Thank you, Todd, for taking the time to record with me to
talk about stawn tire deflaters and SCOG tools. It was a pleasure talking to you and getting to
learn more about it. And I'm excited to use my Chuckmate. And one of these days, I'm going to
have to get some tire deflaters because I know that would definitely help out. If you're not doing
so already, go give them a follow on Instagram, stawn tire deflaters and SCOG tools. You can
also check them out on Amazon. That's where they're readily available. And they're just
really, really great products as you heard him describe them. So, and then they can go hand
in hand depending on your situation or how you may need to use them. So thanks again. Hope you all
have a wonderful week. I know summer is getting started for a lot of people with kids being out
of school. So if you have some trips or some road trips planned specifically and you have
the opportunity to maybe get out and enjoy your Subaru a little bit more this summer,
I hope you all get a chance to do that and just have a lot of fun. And let's keep this community
going. We'll talk to you later. Much Subi love. Raph.
another room in Houston.
gmail.com. That's all for this week.
About this episode
Todd from Staun Tyre Deflators and SKOG Tools joins the show to break down why “airing down” matters for off-road traction and comfort. They explain how valve-stem tools like the Vi Air 88P attachment and the Chuck Mate make it easier to hit a target PSI—without over-deflating or leaving anything on while driving. The conversation also covers mechanical precision, quick-connect convenience, and how brand design and manufacturing choices shape cost and reliability.
Todd joins us to talk about Staun Tyre Deflators, how they work, and why they matter. He also talks about his own brand, SKOG Tools and how they complement Staun Tyre Deflators.
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