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Salesman OFFERED to Commit FRAUD to Get Me a Better Deal!

Salesman OFFERED to Commit FRAUD to Get Me a Better Deal!

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About this episode

A live negotiation roleplay turns into a real-time call with an Acura dealer while the host tries to land 10% off an Acura Integra plus any available rebates. The discussion quickly shifts to how inventory varies by region, how dealers verify VIN/stock and trade paperwork for rebate eligibility, and how the host handles pushback from sales staff. There’s also a running debate about “going viral” versus being too aggressive, plus a brief, joking mention of fraud—then a pivot back to legitimate deal structure and rebate rules.

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inventory

"Today, I want to negotiate on a car that, frankly, there's a lot of inventory on. I'm going to negotiate on an Acura Integra. Now, if you look at the Acura world, people are saying these cars are going over MSRP."

Inventory just means how many cars the dealership has available to sell. If they have a lot of them sitting around, they may be more willing to discount to make sales.

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Acura Integra
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Acura Integra

"Today, I want to negotiate on a car that, frankly, there's a lot of inventory on. I'm going to negotiate on an Acura Integra. Now, if you look at the Acura world, people are saying these cars are going over MSRP."

The Acura Integra is a small Acura car that’s meant to feel fun to drive. In this segment, they’re talking about negotiating its price because there’s a lot of them available.

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negotiations

"If I want to negotiate on something different, I want to know before the video starts, what do you guys think? Do you think we're going to get a big discount or are dealerships going to play games? Because that's what dealerships do. Let me know down below and let's get into the negotiations. Okay, let's call."

This part is about negotiating the car price—trying to see if the dealer will give a real discount or try to play games. They’re basically asking viewers what they think will happen.

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rebates

"A couple of things, because there's some rebates [212.2s] that they have available."

Rebates are discounts the manufacturer (or dealer) gives you after you buy. They can lower the total cost, but they usually come with conditions you have to meet.

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trade it

"What do you currently drive? [214.5s] You don't have to trade it, [215.4s] but they didn't see the copy of the registration."

A trade-in is when you turn in your current car to the dealer to help pay for the next one. The dealer looks at your car and its paperwork to decide what they’ll offer and what deals you can get.

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registration

"[215.4s] but they didn't see the copy of the registration. [217.7s] Yeah, yeah, of course."

Vehicle registration is the official document showing the car is legally registered to an owner. In sales, dealers may need a copy to verify ownership and eligibility for trade-in or incentive programs.

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2006 Honda Accord

"So we have a 2006 Honda Accord. [224.0s] It's a Buick."

A Honda Accord is a common everyday car from Honda. Here, they’re talking about a 2006 Accord they currently drive, and the dealer is using that information to figure out what kind of deal or incentives you can get.

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Range Rover Sport

"Okay, so we're going to look for a Land Rover, Range Rover Sport, Dynamic P400."

Range Rover Sport is a luxury SUV from Land Rover. It’s the “sportier” version of the Range Rover lineup.

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Land Rover Range Rover

"Okay, so we're going to look for a Land Rover, Range Rover Sport, Dynamic P400."

The Range Rover is a large, luxury SUV made for comfortable everyday driving and also capable of rougher roads. People talk about it a lot because it can be expensive, and the final price changes depending on the options you choose.

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Dynamic P400

"Range Rover Sport, Dynamic P400. That is a plug-in hybrid,"

Dynamic P400 is a specific version of the Range Rover Sport. Different versions come with different features and power, which changes the price.

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plug-in hybrid

"Dynamic SE. That is a plug-in hybrid, Dynamic SE."

A plug-in hybrid is part electric and part gas. You can charge it by plugging it in, and it can run on electricity for shorter drives.

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Dynamic SE

"That is a plug-in hybrid, Dynamic SE. And they want..."

Dynamic SE is a particular trim level. It usually means a specific set of features, so it can change the total deal.

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Giolla Green

"Whites, if necessary. Giolla Green, Varendza Blue,"

Giolla Green is a named paint color option. It’s part of the car’s configuration and can affect availability.

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Varendza Blue

"Giolla Green, Varendza Blue, or Copperthurn Gray. Green."

Varendza Blue is a specific exterior paint color. Picking a named color is part of the car’s build and can affect availability.

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Copperthurn Gray

"Giolla Green, Varendza Blue, or Copperthurn Gray. Green."

Copperthurn Gray is a named paint color option. The exact color you pick can affect what’s available and sometimes the final price.

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fixed side steps

"And they added fixed side steps to the vehicle. Fixed side steps. Okay, walk me through that one."

Fixed side steps are like permanent foot rails on the side of a truck or SUV. They don’t pop out when you open the door—they’re just there all the time.

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deployables

"they're not the deployables that open, and when you open the door, they're just like on the side."

Deployable side steps are powered foot rails that come out when you open the door and then go back in. They’re more “mechanical” than fixed steps.

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running boards

"That adds six grand for some running vessels, but really expensive running boards. Am I missing something?"

Running boards are the step rails on the side of the vehicle that make it easier to get in and out. They’re basically the same idea as side steps.

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Mercedes-Benz Mercedesbenz Gls

"What vehicle currently do you drive now? I drive a Mercedes-Benz GLS. GLS, 2026."

The GLS is a big luxury SUV made to comfortably fit multiple passengers. It’s often discussed in price talks because it usually has lots of optional features that can change the total cost.

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welcome credit

"let's see if it qualifies for what they call a welcome credit. Let's see, Mercedes-Benz GLS. Welcome credit, it does qualify for it."

A “welcome credit” is a special discount for new buyers. It’s basically money off the deal, but the dealer may require paperwork to prove you qualify.

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insurance card

"Right, the only thing that we would need to claim that is a copy of the current registration and insurance card."

An insurance card is proof that your car is insured. The dealer may ask for it to make sure you meet the requirements for the discount.

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trade-in

"You don't have to trade in the vehicle if you don't want to, and all that, so."

A trade-in is when you bring your current car and use it to lower the price of the new one. Here, they’re saying you don’t have to trade in your car to get the discount.

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service intervals

"Are you familiar with the service intervals on this vehicle? Because they don't need to see you for a long time... Service intervals on this vehicle are every two years or 21,000 miles, whichever of those two things come first."

Service intervals are the recommended schedule for things like oil and inspections. Here, they’re saying you should service the car every two years or when you hit 21,000 miles, whichever comes first.

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21,000 miles

"Service intervals on this vehicle are every two years or 21,000 miles, whichever of those two things come first."

That 21,000-mile number is how far you can drive before the car is due for service. If you hit that sooner than two years, you should service it then.

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dealer discount

"[1944.4s] just to make something happen, because we don't discount these cars [1947.6s] like a Honda or Toyota or something like that. [1963.7s] I get you can't do 5K off, so I'll make it easy for you. [1990.2s] But that amount, we can't discount that amount."

A dealer discount is the price cut a car dealer offers to help you buy. The salesperson is saying they can’t lower the price by as much as you want, so they can only offer a smaller reduction.

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Toyota

"[1944.4s] like a Honda or Toyota or something like that. [1947.6s] You see, I drive Mercedes-Benz. [1953.0s] I don't drive a thousand Toyotas, but I'll tell you,"

Toyota is a very common car brand. Here it’s used as an example of a brand that dealers might discount more than what they’re offering.

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Mercedes-Benz My Mercedesbenz

"I don't drive a thousand Toyotas, but I'll tell you, I got a pretty hefty deal on my Mercedes-Benz. I'm a, they call me a crew negotiator."
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negotiation constraints

"[1963.7s] I get you can't do 5K off, so I'll make it easy for you. [1966.7s] Let's just do $4,982 off. [1973.6s] That's going to get me fired if I give that off. [1986.7s] which would be like maybe $2,000 to make something happen like right now. [1990.2s] But that amount, we can't discount that amount."

Negotiation constraints are the limits on what a salesperson is allowed to do to lower the price. The speaker is saying they can’t offer the full amount the buyer wants because of rules at the dealership.

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upcharged

"and everything is being upcharged now. So we don't have that margin anymore in these type of cars."

“Upcharged” means the dealer is adding extra costs beyond the starting price. Those extra charges can make the deal harder to discount.

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margin

"So we don't have that margin anymore in these type of cars. You guys don't have $4,000 a margin on your $105,000 car? We do not."

“Margin” is the dealer’s profit buffer on a car. If that buffer is small, they can’t offer big discounts because they’d lose money.

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tariffs

"Because tariff and all this stuff, we, the companies ate all of that negative. We still feel the pain of the tariffs. As far as the Supreme Court made a ruling that those were illegal and they refunded."

Tariffs are extra taxes on imported products. If cars or parts cost more because of tariffs, dealers often have less ability to negotiate and may charge more to cover the added cost.

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stock number

"I have a stock number, if that helps. I am ready when you are."

A stock number is like a reference ID a dealership uses for one specific car. When you give it, they can quickly find the exact vehicle you mean.

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conquest

"What rebates do you qualify for if you are aware or not? Conquest. For the conquest."

A conquest rebate is a discount meant to get you to switch to a new brand. It usually depends on what car you currently drive (or what you recently drove).

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add-ons fees

"[2427.5s] Do you guys have any add-ons fees? [2429.0s] Anything crazy like that?"

These are extra charges the dealer adds on top of the car’s base price. They can be legit add-ons, or they can be fees that make the final price higher than you expected.

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dog fee

"[2429.9s] Just an $899 dog fee. [2432.2s] I appreciate that. [2432.9s] I know you dealt with $109 when they got this line item, [2435.9s] that line item."

“Dog fee” here is a dealer fee line item being quoted as $899. It’s not a standard industry term, but it functions like an administrative or documentation-style charge that increases the total cost.

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electronic title fee

"[2437.2s] It's $899 dog fee. [2438.6s] It's $199 electronic title fee. [2440.6s] That's it."

This is a paperwork fee for getting the car’s title handled through the state electronically. It’s usually small compared to the car price, but it still adds to what you pay.

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addendums

"[2454.4s] Well, we don't mess around. [2455.4s] We don't add addendums to our cars unless we actually [2458.0s] added a wheel to it or a running board, something significant."

An addendum is extra paperwork that changes or adds to the original agreement. They’re saying they only add it when they actually add real items to the car.

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out the door

"[2525.2s] How about this? [2526.3s] I'll give you my buyer's order out the door at the two grand [2529.3s] plus the two grand."

“Out the door” means the final total price you’ll pay, not just the sticker price. It includes taxes and fees so you can compare deals fairly.

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concession

"[2547.9s] They called it a concession. [2549.4s] Weird name to call it, but sure. [2550.7s] A concession, $2,500 plus the $2,000 rebate,"

A “concession” here means the dealer is giving you a discount to help you buy. It’s like an agreed price break, usually combined with rebates.

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taxable fees

"[2549.4s] Weird name to call it, but sure. [2550.7s] A concession, $2,500 plus the $2,000 rebate, [2553.6s] and they have $205 taxable fees, $995 dock fees, $6,247 in tax,"

Some fees get taxed, and some don’t. “Taxable fees” are the ones that add to your total because sales tax applies to them too.

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dock fees

"[2550.7s] A concession, $2,500 plus the $2,000 rebate, [2553.6s] and they have $205 taxable fees, $995 dock fees, $6,247 in tax, [2559.1s] and $452 in non-tax fees."

Dock fees are charges dealers add for getting the vehicle from the manufacturer’s distribution point to the dealership. They’re typically part of the “fees” bucket that can be negotiated or at least compared across offers.

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non-tax fees

"[2553.6s] and they have $205 taxable fees, $995 dock fees, $6,247 in tax, [2559.1s] and $452 in non-tax fees. [2561.6s] So I don't think any funny business is going on."

Non-tax fees are extra charges that don’t get taxed. They still raise the total price, but they don’t add sales tax on top of themselves.

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MSRP

"[2571.0s] What's your MSRP? [2572.3s] $102,9. [2573.0s] Yeah, this is $104,585, so."

MSRP is the “sticker price” the manufacturer lists for that exact car. The dealer can usually sell it for more or less than that number.

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