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Welcome to this weekend drive edition of Daily Drive
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for the third week of September, 2025.
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I'm Kellan Walker in Las Vegas.
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We're breaking down some of the biggest stories
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in the auto industry from the past week
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and looking forward to what's in store in the days ahead.
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Joining me today are Hannah Lutz,
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Director of Technology and Innovation Coverage
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at Automotive News.
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Hannah, welcome back to weekend drive.
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And Mike Martinez, who covers Ford and the UAW.
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Welcome back, Mike.
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Thanks for having me.
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All right, guys, let's get into some news.
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So, Mike, we're gonna start off with you, my friend,
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and probably the biggest news of the week so far
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has been Ford's decision to demolish
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its longtime headquarters, the Glass House,
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and move to a new building at its engineering campus nearby.
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Now, Mike, Ford has been making a lot of capital investments
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in recent years between this and its new innovation hub
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at Michigan Central in Detroit.
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Do you think that's all part of a bigger strategy?
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I do, and I think it goes beyond Ford to GM
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with its announcement of its new headquarters
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moving out of the Renaissance Center,
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going to the Hudson's Development,
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closer to the heart of downtown Detroit.
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And I think it basically gets to the fact
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that all of these companies, I don't think I know
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because they've said it, say they're in a war for talent.
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And one way to attract and retain the best talent
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is by having the most state-of-the-art
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desirable places to work, especially in this post-COVID era
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where some companies are starting to call back their workers
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four or five days a week.
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New age employees want collaborative spaces,
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they want top amenities, outdoor areas
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that they can go to easily.
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They don't want these sort of traditional offices
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in these traditional buildings
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that the automakers have had for years.
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Ford's been in the Glass House for 70 years,
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and it was a different era back then.
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Bill Ford made some remarks this week
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saying how back then everybody just really desired
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that corner office, so you could go to your office,
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close the door, and get work done.
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That doesn't happen the same way these days.
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So if these companies are going to find the best talent,
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especially software tech talent,
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they're competing with the Apples
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and the Teslas of the world for,
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they better have some fun places to work,
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and this is all part of that effort.
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Good point, Mike, because one thing I know
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about millennials in the workplace
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is that we like break rooms with really, really good snacks.
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And if you don't have all the snacks,
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like it's not a good day, I'm just saying,
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that's key for millennials,
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because we like the snack, don't we?
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I'm just saying, just saying, putting that out there.
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Well, automakers, they are smart to do this
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because they recognize who they're competing with.
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They're competing with Silicon Valley,
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especially if they want the talent to move here to Detroit
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or anywhere that is not Silicon Valley,
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they have to have the same or better amenities,
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Tell me, if you've ever seen the break room
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at Google or Facebook, you're like, wow,
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they pretty much have an entire Starbucks in here.
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Just putting that out there.
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Okay, now, Hannah, you've been following
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the Hyundai LG immigration raid story
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closely for the past couple of weeks.
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Earlier this month, ICE raided a joint venture
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battery plant in Georgia and arrested hundreds of workers
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who were later released and returned to South Korea.
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This week on Daily Drive, we brought listeners' comments
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on the situation from Hyundai Motor Executive Chair,
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Yusun Chung, and LG Energy Solutions, Bob Lee.
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What's the latest on that story?
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So Hyundai hosted its investor day
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from New York on Thursday, and Jose Munoz,
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who's CEO of Hyundai Motor Company,
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reiterated his hope that the US government
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will enable appropriate visas for foreign,
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short-term specialized workers,
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and those were many of the workers working at that plant.
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He said, many of the ones who were detained
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were working on the final calibration and testing
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of advanced battery production technology.
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So that was the first time I saw exactly
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what they were working on at the time.
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He also emphasized the long-term economic benefit
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that the facility will bring to the area in Georgia.
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So it's similar comments to what we heard previously
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like at our Congress event earlier this month,
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but it shows that Hyundai remains really committed
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to this market and wants to work with the US government
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on a solution pretty quickly.
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All right, good stuff.
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Welcome back to Weekend Drive.
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I'm Kellyn Walker with Automotive News journalists,
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Michael Martinez and Hannah Letts.
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Hannah, we're just about days away,
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about a week or so from September 30th
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from the end of federal EV tax credits.
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This week, our own Lonnie Eilif wrote
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about the latest EV registration data
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from S&P Global Mobility,
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which suggested that customers
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were still flocking to dealerships
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to lock in those credits in July.
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Now, legacy automakers saw a 27% jump in EV registrations,
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but that was dragged down to a 6% increase
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for the overall market
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because Tesla had another dismal sales month.
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What do you make of all of this?
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So we're seeing again that EV incentives
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and new products are helping those legacy brands in July,
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and they gave Tesla more competition to contend with.
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So that's kind of a continuation
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of some trends we've been seeing this year.
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And overall, the numbers are really good for EVs.
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And S&P Global Mobility expects that strength
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to continue in August and September.
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But come October, when the $7,500 tax credit
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is no longer available,
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those EV sales will likely drop significantly
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in favor of hybrids or gas vehicles.
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So we'll have to wait and see
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if and how automakers react to that,
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if they will let the market drive decisions
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or drive sales, or if they'll incentivize EVs
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to make up for those missing credits.
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It probably depends on how many they have
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on the lot at that point.
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And meanwhile, Mike, Ford announced this week
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that it's looking to cut 1,000 jobs at its German EV plant
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because demand in Europe is lagging
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far behind industry projections.
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Mike, what does this say about automakers' global EV strategies
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which seem to be facing headwinds
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even outside of the United States?
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Yeah, I would say that automakers beyond just Ford
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are running into this demand problem all over,
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even outside of the US where you had, in some cases,
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much more strict government mandates
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in terms of the phase out of internal combustion engines
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and the banning, in some cases, in various cities.
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But it's another sign that companies, including Ford,
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really overshot the mark here
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in terms of what they thought would be required
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to meet that demand in terms of production,
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in terms of shifts, in terms of number of plants
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building these kind of products.
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Another factor to keep in mind here
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is that Ford in Europe and the other automakers in Europe
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are facing that China threat we keep hearing about
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much more acutely than, obviously, we are in the United States
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because China's already selling there
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and undercutting companies like Ford
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and the other legacy brands, in many cases,
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with much cheaper EVs.
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Yeah, that point on China is very clear.
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I mean, in the US, we don't have the competition
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of Chinese vehicles, especially for EVs.
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All the global markets are so different,
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and that is one big differentiator in Europe
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that they do have to compete with Chinese vehicles.
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And Michael Dunn from Dunn Insights
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talked about it at our Congress event.
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He was saying that the Europeans are really terrified right now
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because the Chinese have the products at a low cost,
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they have the technology, and they're winning.
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So they're definitely facing some competition there.
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Well, Nissan also announced that it's canceling
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its ARIA compact EV crossover for the US market.
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Now, Hannah, it seems like this trend
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of product cancellations and job cuts continued
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since we talked about the same thing a couple weeks ago.
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Yeah, automakers are definitely recalibrating
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based on the EV demand changes
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that we talked about, the elimination of the tax credit,
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There's a lot of factors at play
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that are driving these decisions around vehicles
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across the board and especially EVs.
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And quickly before we end, Mike Volkswagen and the UAW
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have been trying to reach a contract for almost a year
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at VW's plant in Chattanooga.
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This week, VW said this latest contract offer
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is its last, best, and final offer.
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Mike, how do you interpret the situation in Chattanooga?
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Well, the situation's really starting to heat up.
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Last, best, and final is a bargaining term
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that is pretty self-explanatory.
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This is VW saying this is everything we're gonna offer,
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can't go up anymore, can't do any better benefits,
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take it or leave it.
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Now, what happens from here?
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There's still a few things that could happen.
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The UAW could put this to a vote.
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They could call for a strike authorization vote.
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They could file unfair labor practices.
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Even though it's supposed to be last, best, and final,
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we have seen instances where a company will propose that,
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the union will reject it,
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and they'll come out with an updated last, best, and final.
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So it doesn't necessarily mean it's the end,
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but it's a pretty clear ploy by VW
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to get things moving here in the hopes
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that there will be some sort of conclusion.
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And you do have to worry also about the fact
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that as long as VW has said this,
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that they're walking away from the table now,
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if the UAW doesn't engage, that could lead to an impasse.
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And if that happens,
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you could see a third party mediator come in.
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Keep in mind, even in the 2023 negotiations
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with the Detroit three didn't get to that point.
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So a lot still up in the air, a lot could happen,
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but after a year, it does seem like it's finally
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coming to that end game now.
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I can't believe it's been a whole year.
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Long time. Crazy, crazy.
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Mike, Hannah, thank you so much for joining me.
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Thanks, Kyle. Thanks.
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That's all for this weekend drive edition of Daily Drive.
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Thanks to Automotive News executive producer,
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Jake Nier for his help on today's podcast.
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You can get the latest news on labor talks, electrification
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and everything happening in the auto industry at AutoNews.com.
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Come back on Monday for a conversation with Larry Dominique,
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president of LD Management Consulting,
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about how legacy automakers should respond
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to growing competition in China.
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There is going to be a big impact on how the legacy Williams
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respond to this kind of onslaught, this new technology,
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faster manufacturing, software developed vehicles.
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So I think it's going to be a profound impact to the industry.
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