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About this episode
The episode dives into an exciting preview of the upcoming British Touring Car Championship (BTCC) round at Silverstone. Hosts discuss the title race between Ash Sutton and Tom Ingram, with Ingram holding a 32-point lead. The conversation covers the potential impact of weather conditions on the race, the performance of various teams and drivers, and predictions for the weekend. Notable mentions include the farewell of driver Nick Halstead and the competitive dynamics among teams like BMW and Toyota. The hosts also share their predictions for race outcomes and championship standings.
Topics:
silverstone preview
ash sutton vs tom ingram
weather impact
driver performance
team dynamics
nick halstead farewell
predictions
championship standings
WE TAKE A LOOK INTO THE PENULTIMATE WEEKEND OF THE 2025 BTCC SEASON, WILL INGRAM STRETCH HIS LEAD OR SUTTON CLAW IT BACK.
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Can Ash Sutton turn a Silverstone into a Golden Stone, or will Ingram take a further lead at
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Silverstone preview.
Hello and welcome back to the British Jury Card Podcast. We are back once again. We've
had a three-week break coming into the penultimate round of the season, and as you heard, we
are going to Silverstone this weekend. Well, one of us is at least.
I am going to Silverstone. You've spent too much money watching Everton, which is
a terrible amount of money. The latter I can understand spending money on. The former,
to go and watch a 0-0 in the cold, I can't quite understand that. It's up north, it's
cold. Anyway, you're off to Silverstone this weekend. Are you looking forward to it? I
know it's certainly not your favourite track. No, it's not my favourite track. I'm going
because I like to go racing, and it is quite local. It's only about an hour up the
road for us. Having seen the forecast, I'm less inclined to be happy than I was
24 hours ago. What do you always say? That's always got time to change.
Well, it has, because when we looked last night in the pub, it was going to be drizzly. It's
now going to be full-on rain, apparently, according to today's estimates. Personally,
I hope it is a wet day because I think that makes Silverstone far better. I think it
is one of the circuits on the calendar that can cope with water better than most
others because it is an internationally renowned circuit where we get so many different
types of racing going there that if there is a circuit that can cope with a puddle,
it's more likely to be Silverstone than some of the other circuits that we go to.
And I think we also need quite a large spammer thrown in the works with regards to a
title race. There is that as well. So just before we get into the preview fully,
some news has come out today ahead of record, which is nice.
I can't wait for another bit tomorrow.
Yeah, but as soon as we finish on here, basically, the news that Nick
Halsted will not be returning to the grid next year is put out on his Facebook.
There's going to be a special livery at Brands Hatch.
It appears as a sort of a farewell from what I'm reading.
So yeah, Nick has obviously been in and out the touring cars a couple of years
and more recent times and has decided to call it a day.
So I think that's pretty much all he has to say is that until he gets
a lucrative offer next season at some point, which obviously he had this season.
Anyway, we shall see. We shall see.
Let's jump straight into the Silverstone Preview.
Then we have a whopping six brackets, six corners to go around.
You always spell that out on screen. Six corners.
Yeah, six corners and what? Two breaking zones.
Yeah, one point eight five miles.
David in 1959.
The reason I get so angry is because pre-COVID
we were going to have the other loop of the circuit added.
We've never had that since.
And I do I swear I could be wrong.
But in the Super Tour days, I swear I did the full circuit.
I just remember driving the full circuit on top of touring cars anyway.
Yeah, I just don't I know they sell the lap time
beyond all the support series. Well, that's a new problem.
Make it make it work. Make it work.
Charles, if you have any say in this, we know you listen, obviously.
If you haven't seen it already, we've been interviewed with Charles
back at Donnington and have a little work with Mr.
Gow for us and see if you can get something working, because I'm
pretty sure most of the drivers would like to try a different circuit
and a different layout of Silverstone.
Yeah, it's because a lot of drivers do sort of really like going
Silverstone from what they say and what they feel.
But I wonder if that's because it's some circuit you take your brain out to drive.
I wonder if Silverstone is a little bit of a Sunday afternoon stroll in some ways
because it's just it's certainly won't be if it's wet.
And also I have to say as well, I'm going to bring this up.
I saw the TCRs at the other loop last year before and it was brilliant.
It was absolutely brilliant.
And I don't see why we can't if we can't use the full circuit,
why we can't use the other iteration, which I think is better for racing anyway.
I tend to agree and that doesn't happen often.
It doesn't. Right, Sam, who has the quantifying that record?
Now, I would instantly jump to someone like Ash Sutton,
but this was the circuit where Napa didn't take that poll in 2023.
So I'm going to go for Tom Ingram and I think it might have been last year.
No, if I was to tell you, it's not been broken since 2020.
Would you be surprised? Oh, yes, I would BMW.
No. Oh, got him.
It was Dan Kamish with a fifty seven three,
which would have been in the Honda in twenty twenty.
The racing lap record.
I'm going to go for Ash Sutton on this one.
You'd be wrong again.
OK, it was twenty twenty two.
If you want to have another go of twenty twenty two.
So it's the year before the Napa dominance.
Oh, the Honda engine wasn't as great then.
I don't think it was Honda Toyota.
No, it was Jake Hill, of course, of fifty seven six,
which would have been in the BMW.
Was that the Audi? No, BMW.
It was a BMW. OK, there you go.
So, yes. Oh, yeah.
It was at the rocket.
Yeah, livery one, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah.
I'm amazed that they've stood since then.
Yeah, I am.
So particularly when you had,
I know that they didn't get poll in the dominant era of the twenty
twenty three season, but I'm surprised that between the three
quick drives at Napa, they didn't break that.
As you say, the Hyundai engine, particularly when last season
we both had, I'm going to come to a minute, Ingram and Sutton
come from the back of the grid to the front of the grid.
Yep.
I'm surprised that we've not seen that broken since.
I think it will be this year.
I think just because of how much power the cars are putting out now.
I think you're probably right.
In terms of twenty twenty four, Ingram won the first race
from Hill from Camish.
Race two went the way of Jake Hill from Turquatin from Cook.
So there's a little hint of a BMW, a stronghold, a little hint.
And then race three was Ingram Sutton.
Sutton tried to eat Ingram into Ketteringshire in the last corner.
Ketteringshire.
And Cook got another podium that race as well.
I've also, because I like doing some research,
I know you've done a little bit as well.
I have done a little bit this week.
So I'm going to get all mine out the way and fill in the gaps.
So there is only really two drivers in the championship now.
So I'm going to quickly go to quickly take us through the championship table.
So Ingram leads by 32 points over Ash Sutton.
Now, I have done the maths on this.
And as we found out last night, my maths sometimes doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
No, managing to completely miscount and out in darts
and getting the double, getting ready to celebrate the match win
and then realizing what I had done.
Sorry, that's funny.
It was not so much for me.
So that's 32 points.
I'm confident on this one in the manufacturers.
Alliance have six, nine, eight.
Accelerate have six, nine, seven.
That's a point difference.
Yes, I'm confident on that one in the teams.
Virtue lead that they have six, four, two.
Napa have six, four, two.
So that's a two point gap.
So even though we're not seeing a great title fight at the top,
I don't think, because I think it's all but done down.
I say these other titles and the other three I'm about to cover.
Well, two of the three are also very, very close indeed.
So I'll get I'll get the non-close one out the way.
Restart lead independent teams by four hundred and twenty eight
points to PMRs with motor parts, etc.
Three hundred thirty six, which I've calculated to a ninety two point.
Yeah, it's a significant difference.
And obviously one motor sport have dropped out midway through the season.
And we know the difficulties that PMR have come into
in the second half of the season.
So yeah, it's no real surprise that restart are heading the way there.
In terms of the independent drivers, this is amazing.
So Mikey Doble leads on three, two, four.
Dan Lloyd is one point back on three, two, two.
And Smiley is a further point back from Lloyd.
So three off the top, two off the top.
It's been a bad week for my maths and he's on three, two, one.
So that one really is flip a coin in the air and anyone can take it.
If you have a non-finish out of one of those three, you pretty much put it out of it.
But yes, it's going to be a really tight finish in that.
And then the Jack says I've got three still contenders in this.
So De Leon leads that on three, six, nine, 14 points back.
Is Rainford on three, five, five.
And Osborne is still there.
He's 45 points back on three, two, four.
He's there, but I don't think I think it's between the top two.
Yeah, he would need to have a dire weekend from BMWs
with a couple of retirements or certainly non-scores.
Yes, agreed.
And you know, how difficult that is to now happen in the Jack
series with how few competitors there are.
Yeah, and just a reminder for the independence, for the manufacturers,
for all of ones that aren't the drivers championship, finishing is enough
because the field is smaller.
If you finish, you'll still get points because you might finish.
You might finish 21st on the road, but for thing that particular class,
which will get you points.
So it's all this is where you might see somebody come into the pit lane,
do a tire change, be a lap down, but still come back out
because if they get classified at the end, they'll still score
the points for that particular class, which when you've gone through
the numbers there, the exactly that, exactly that.
In terms of Ingram versus Sutton, then we've got to pretend
there's a title fight on, even though I'm not convinced that there is.
So in 2024, Ingram had the better of the Silverstone day
with a first, a fourth and a first.
Sutton had a fourth, a 12th and a second.
2023, they both got caught up in race one in an incident
and finished 22nd and 23rd in Ingram's favour.
But that caused a great fight back through the field.
It absolutely did. So Ingram then got a third and a second
and Sutton got a first and a third.
So Honours all pretty much even, I'd say that week.
And I think Ingram may have slightly outscored
because of the fastest laps and doesn't really matter.
It was very, very close.
And then in 2022, it's tight again.
Ingram with five, five, one, Sutton with six, four, two.
So again, Ingram just edging it, but there's not a lot of difference.
However, I thought that Honours were pretty even
between this track.
We have an interesting chat in the car last night.
We did indeed, yeah.
And you're like, oh, yeah, they're fairly close.
There's only somehow a win or two between.
Well, you'd said that you expected Ingram to dominate this weekend.
I said, oh, come on now.
And they're pretty good.
Sutton's got as many wins as Ingram, if not more.
And then I looked this morning.
Yes, you did.
And Sutton's win at Silverstone.
And I couldn't quite believe it.
I had to count it twice.
He's won.
So there you go, listeners.
A single win at Silverstone.
What motivates Sam to do research has proven me wrong.
But doesn't do research any other week.
Compared to Ingram having taken eight wins.
Yeah, that is which is astonishing.
That's a skew I really didn't expect to how OK,
or maybe one might have five to three or six, four ever.
But to be eight one up on that is astonishing.
Yeah, he's I think in his years within the touring cars
just at Silverstone, he scored 360 points.
That is a hell of a.
Yeah, what times do you wake up this morning?
Just as I was munching on my toast this morning,
I thought I had a little look, not left over pizza.
No, I didn't last.
I didn't last night.
So, yeah, I thought I'd have a little look.
And yeah, he's got a hell of a lot of points at Silverstone.
Did you do Sutton's by comparison?
I haven't. No.
But because of the discrepancy in wins as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, taking quite a few podiums along the way.
But the difference is too too large just for any new listeners.
He can't score 360 points this weekend.
The maximum you can score is sixty seven.
Yeah, sixty seven, including part for part.
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, thirty two point lead going into it.
Obviously needs to come out of the weekend with sixty eight points
to take it this weekend, which I don't think he's going to go.
I don't think it went through my mind to put it in as a prediction.
But then I thought realistically about it
and you have to really have a sudden non finish.
Probably two or two. Yeah.
For it to really happen.
So I didn't go down.
No, but I do think for Inga this weekend that if he scores
three top eights, then it's pretty much done.
And that's certain wins or three.
I really don't see how.
And I think certain needs to win probably to this weekend
to stand any real chance because I've said this before
on the podcast, both on the previews and the reviews.
If Ingram finishes first, Sutton's normally second or in that.
Yeah, exactly.
They're not generally they're not finishing big gaps between each other,
which is I think just really playing into Ingram's hands at this stage.
And also we know that that Hyundai is an absolute beast.
This season and they've done a fantastic job.
It is. Yes.
Can I briefly mention BMW?
OK, yeah.
They had a decent run out at Donnington Park.
How far? I thought Jake Hill looked pretty good.
Yes. Coming off the back of a decent
or even better weekend at Lock Hill.
Lock Hill, yes.
What do you expect this weekend?
Part of it wants to think that they are back.
Obviously, I said last year that Hill took a race win
and Colin Turcoyne did take a second place as well.
They were good here.
And we've always cited this circuit as being a more of a BMW circuit.
You've got a couple of large traction zones
and normally with a strong engine that they can normally build,
they'll be good down the straights as well.
I don't see that as much this weekend.
I still think Hill is going to be there or there about seeing
for like sixth, fifth, sixth, seventh, that sort of area.
I very much think that you've got that those top two
who will be fighting as long as whether or crashes or something
doesn't come into play.
And then you've got Camish and Robot.
And Robot was hella consistent at the moment.
He is. Yeah. And if he is not up there
alongside Sutton or Camish or Ingram, then I'll be very surprised.
And it kind of just edges Hill down that ever.
Yeah, that is ever a bit more. Yeah.
Which is why I think he's going to be there or there abouts.
He might sneak onto the podium.
He might sneak a win if he gets to reverse grids
favourably for him, but also the weather could be highly critical.
If we're getting rain this weekend,
it needs to be really wet for the BMWs to do well, or it needs to be dry.
But if it is really wet, he's he's massively in the conversation
because he is a very good wet weather driver.
He is. We've seen that throughout his touring car career.
And he's been the best wet BMW driver that I can remember.
And that includes Colin Turkin as well.
He just seems to be able to hook the car up and get it to do what he wants to do
and still get the traction and the power down.
Yeah, agreed. So, yeah, anybody you want to talk about in particular?
Toyota go surprisingly well here. Well, Cook does.
Well, one thing I want to say is that we had a really nice show
in last time out from the M Sport engine in the Toyota.
Yes, we did. Yes. So I do think that we're going to see
a decent weekend from either both or one or the other
of Shedden and Aaron Taylor Smith. Well, the big question is,
do they now just run that other engine for the rest of the season?
They get three weekends worth of data or do they jump the gun and go?
Do you know what it was chalk and cheese at Donnington,
which I think it was being really honest, Cook went back through the field
horrifically in race three.
Do they just go, yeah, we don't need any more testing.
That is clear. That engine is better and just put the put it in all four.
Possibly, possibly.
I think if they do put it in all four, then we could well see Cook up there
alongside the two of them as well.
But it wouldn't surprise me if we see Shedden and Aaron Taylor Smith
with that engine and that set up finish inside the top 10 for maybe even
a couple of races.
They've certainly entered my predictions for this weekend.
Cook has for me as well.
So this year, this this this week, we've not actually
a share of predictions beforehand.
It's got quite tight in the prediction rate.
You are this could go down to the wire.
You're two points ahead, one point ahead is one or two.
Yeah, it's not far.
I've managed to pull back over the last couple of weeks,
which has been very, very profitable for myself.
Yes, yes.
So is it before we go into predictions, holding on to an early season lead
you are before we go into predictions.
Is there anything else you want to discuss team wise or driver wise
before we move across?
Previously, we know that obviously the Astra went strong here.
Yes, they've settled into the Cooper quite nicely, I think.
Certainly, the car looks great in the livery.
Yes, I wasn't really expecting.
And if they will can hook it up this weekend,
we know how quick he can be at Silverstone.
And being such a short circuit, there's two arguments to make.
There's either a place, a lot of places or few places that you can lose time
or there's not many places that you can gain time.
So I think it's going to be a fairly condensed field, especially in qualifying.
And we know what he's like in qualifying.
He's always on the button, ready to go.
So we could see a really decent weekend from that Cooper.
My biggest worry is that I think it lacks race pace.
I think over one lap, I think it has got pace.
And you saw that Donnington obviously got into top six.
Yes, we know he got disqualified for a ride height.
He's there on merit.
Exactly. But I do worry we saw some strong
showing some Cooper's in the past where they've done well in qualifying
and then come the race, they just fall down the order.
I know Doble is one of the better drivers that has been in a Cooper.
If it rains as well, you always say that's the great leveler.
Yeah, absolutely. If it rains, all bets are off to a degree.
But I think, I think Doble, sorry, Doble will be stronger in qualifying
than he would be in the race.
I think that's no fault of the team that they've had to learn
a whole new car just over halfway through the season.
It's tough.
But yeah, I think that kind of sums up where I am with most of the
important drivers, shall we say?
OK, we'll get into our predictions after this very quick break.
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Right, then predictions.
It's tight between us at the top as well.
So we've got to make sure these last few weeks count in that competition.
They are trophies on the line.
Let's let us forget.
And there is an award show in December.
So I've gone bold.
You've gone bold. OK, I probably shouldn't go bold
because I am in the lead, very slender lead.
But I have had to do a little bit of mixing up
because I'm thinking where can I try and score points
without going so bold that I'm chucking them away.
So the pole position you've gone for
Adam Morgan. OK, I don't think that's meant.
I don't think that's too out there.
He'll be in a quick car with more boost.
He will. I would say that he's the line I'm going down.
I would say is potentially the weakest of the four qualifiers
this season in that team, but free to side.
I'm talking about the four there now, but yeah, OK, OK, OK.
I told you it was a bit rogue.
Well, I've got a bit rogue as well. OK, I've gone road bottom.
Yeah, he's crossed my mind now.
He's been really quick.
He's been really quick recently.
He's got the bit between his teeth.
Try and finish third.
I think he's currently fourth,
which means you have a slight boost of vantage
over some of the drivers.
If you can keep track limits off,
I don't know whether we're doing it this weekend
because it changes every single time.
I imagine it'll be cops.
They'll be doing it there.
You'd have thought if you can keep.
Yeah, I think that goes for Morgan as well.
Both of them have had track limit infringes
on fairly confident front one season.
Well, there is that. Yeah.
So, yeah, yeah, I think it won't be one of the people
we might necessarily expect to show off the bat.
So yeah, I'm going road bottom.
I've realized having looked back
through these from this morning,
I've gone very high and heavy on my race.
Oh, OK, right. OK.
So I've gone for Proctor for a race win.
We keep doing that.
I think he might nick a race three
or possibly finish, like, fourth in race one
and get a race two victory. OK.
So I've gone for Proctor for one.
I've gone for Ingram for one because it's Silverstone
and it's what he does from Silverstone.
I've gone for Ingram for two.
That is bold.
So I mean, it doesn't matter
because it doesn't matter what they're coming.
But are you thinking back to back race one
and two, you thinking one and three?
Either.
I don't really have my answer.
I think he could well go out and win race one
and then depending on the tire allocation,
depending on the weather as well,
if we're going to get a wet weekend,
then he could certainly go off and win race two.
Race three if he gets the reverse grid at six.
Exactly.
But if he falls slightly back through the field,
then I think he's then got enough pace in race three
to come back through the field to win.
I just think he's got the pace.
He's got everything about him at the moment
just seems to be flat out.
I agree.
The only thing he's going to have to do, of course,
is when you're coming through Chathwick at Silverstone,
we have seen it before.
There are pinch points as you come into that final grandstand
section.
We've seen Turkton be spun around there.
We have seen Ingram go there.
He has also, though, this year,
got three teammates who are we going to fight for him.
Yes, he has.
I'm not suggesting any wrongdoing
or Robots part heavy.
He has got a little bit of making up to do.
So I'll just plant that one there as well.
OK, I mean, I've gone home day heavy as well.
So I've got Morgan for a race, similar to a proctor.
I can see him finishing four in race one
and finishing first in race two, depending on ties
and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, Morgan for race two.
Well, Morgan from win, but I think it will come in race two.
And your final one?
Smiley, I think he will get a win
from the end of the season, I said it.
And I think very hard by heavy.
Wow, the reverse grid is that is my reverse grid winner
for me because I think if he can get
he's had a couple of chances
or he's been hyped the grid this season on the reverse grid
and it's not quite come off.
I think Silveston is a circuit.
They will know very well, be the car will go very well at.
And I think that he can.
Yeah, maybe just slide and get that win.
I'm very tempted to change my Jack Sears prediction,
bearing in mind what the weather could do.
However, that weather could still change between now and then.
The weather, Jack Sears, I don't think really matters much.
So I'm going to stick with it
and I've gone for deli on this weekend.
OK, I've gone for Osborne.
Yeah, I thought about going for Osborne.
Just I'm not sure where I am with the BMW.
Because Osborne normally goes well at Silveston.
He does. I'm just not.
So I'm just not sure I am with the BMW.
Some weeks, even some races, it looks good.
Even at Donnington, some races look really good.
Yeah, other races look really flat.
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what we're going to get this weekend.
And if there is then set up changes,
do I trust them to get it right for the change of conditions?
It's so hard, because if it's starting dry,
but likely to get wet, what do you do set up wise?
Do you put slicks on a wet set up?
Do you put wet on a slick set up?
I mean, I think that when you've already got a car,
you've got so many variables.
We've already got a car you're not fully happy with.
I just don't think the more tinkering of the setup.
Yeah, that's why I've gone for for Osborne.
I just think that car is a bit more stable
across the weather conditions if we get them there enough.
We'll move on to our general pictures then.
3H plus a special one.
Now, of course, we can veto each other's here
because we haven't actually had a chance to discuss them,
but I'm fairly sure you'll be happy.
My name is very much points-based this week.
Yeah, so am I.
OK.
So, having done my little bit of research this morning
about how many points Ingram had scored,
I took out the first two years he was there
and worked out how many points he had averaged each weekend.
Wow, OK.
Which was about 38.
So when you're averaging,
just because there's different ways of averaging,
are you adding them up and divided by three?
How are you doing it?
I added all the points up,
apart from those two...
Yeah, those two seasons that he was there.
I added up the rest of them,
divided it by however many seasons that were
to see how many points he got across the weekend,
not per race or anything like that.
So he averaged about 38.
So I've gone for Ingram to score 40 plus points this week.
Oh, OK, so you're not doing an average.
Of course, you can't do an average.
Of course, you can't.
Yeah.
Seriously, dear.
I have a GCSE in maths.
Camish outscores Sutton.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I've just got an inclination.
He's going to have a bit of a stinker this weekend.
I think this weekend goes one or two ways or so,
and either wins two and gets another podium.
You have an absolute, the Lays down and Marketers.
Ingram says, I'm still there.
I'm going nowhere, mate.
We're taking this to the wire.
Or he's already down the pan.
It just starts to fade away a little.
When we've seen him in the past,
where he's gone a bit hard,
Alton Park in the past, where he's ended up in a wall.
I think Ash knows, this is very obvious thing to say,
he's got to finish in front of Ingram.
And at what point does he start to take the risks to do it?
And at what point do those risks either pay off or not pay off?
So I'm going, Camish, has a little bit more or less to lose
and a little bit more conservative of a small C to outscore him.
So I told you, I was speaking about Toyota
and Shedden there and Taylor Smith,
and they are involved in my predictions.
And I've gone for both of them
to score 20 plus points this weekend.
Because I think they're going to have a strong weekend.
They're going to score points, possibly even score points
in all three races, just to keep on adding those scores up.
OK, I've also gone for another points based one.
Yep. Ingram to be 40 plus clear at the end of the weekend.
Oh, OK.
That's only eight more.
Yeah, that's certain still got a score.
OK. 45.
Would you be happier 45?
I'd be happier with 45.
I'll go 45 because at least that's then he has to build
what a 12 point gap this weekend.
Yeah, OK, I'll go 45 plus 13.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'll go 45 plus that one.
I did think we'd have a little bit of debate on, so that's fine.
Yeah, because if you try and look at the points
across a weekend, scoring eight more than someone is quite possible.
Yeah, whereas I think if you score in 13, 14, 15 more,
especially a close title rival like that, then yeah.
OK, great to you.
That's fine. I'll go 45. That's absolutely fine.
My final one is Mikey Doble on the podium.
Are we talking as a as an independent winner?
No, you're talking outright.
I'm talking outright podium.
Back in a minute, that's like that.
What? Yeah.
Do you want if that happens?
I should donate 20 pounds to a charity of your choice,
because you're going to say I was going to have two points for it.
No, no, no, no, no, I'll donate 20 pounds to charity of your choice
because I love Mikey Doble.
I think he's been a real asset to the championship,
but I want PMR to do well.
But that I just don't see it at all.
Wait for the heavens to open.
I just he normally gets a rain call, right?
Can I just say when it rained last,
he sort of slid off the circuit on his own,
got a little bit wrong and sort of.
He also got start in the right group position one time.
We scrap over that, though.
He's going to have a really good weekend and I hope it comes off.
I was going to have a podium.
I would happily give you that point
because I want PMR to do well and I want Doble to work.
I just I what you were saying earlier about
how many people you've got to finish ahead and I just don't see it,
mate, I'm sorry. That is I think if he if he finishes in
a reverse grid position, he would then be able to just about hold on to a podium.
The Cooper has not got the race pace for me.
Look, I've never wanted you to get a prediction right more.
No, that makes a change.
But I don't see that at all, mate.
I really don't.
What is your final one?
Cook to outscore Lloyd and Doble, not combined.
He would just outscore.
I thought I can't go for one driver.
So he'll outscore.
It's not a combined thing, but he'll outscore both those drivers individually.
Yes, yes, yes.
OK, I thought I can't just go for one because that's a bit too
so I should go for two to make it a little bit more interesting.
We'll see. We'll see.
And our final special one this weekend is down to the safety car.
We haven't seen many of them this year.
No, we haven't. In my books and we're not in the books.
They're on the track.
And if we're going to get some changeable conditions,
then we could certainly have some drivers exiting into the scenery left,
right and centre. Yes.
And so, yeah, I think we're probably going to see a safety car this weekend.
And I've gone for six laps worth.
I've gone for five.
Have you? Five.
It's a really tricky one because it's such it's a short circuit.
So if there's a big accident, you're going to get lots and lots of laps.
But if there's not a big accident, you're going to get very little laps, obviously.
And as you say, we've not seen the safety car an awful lot this season.
And also at Silverstone, I'm tempting fate here.
I know there's not many places where a car goes if you go right.
We have to throw it.
So there's a lot of places where they can go, OK, we can cover that in the yellows
or there's a lot of runoff where they where they'll be OK,
especially in the wet.
Yeah, but it might not rain.
I know. I know.
How many times we've gone, it's going to rain all weekend and we get sunburn.
Yeah, true.
But I think if we record this on a Tuesday,
the BBC would have changed the weather forecast 18 times
by the time you put this out to edit.
I think if we get any sort of conditions that are changeable,
I'm going to put it down to that, then we could see drivers going off.
And we know how tight the complex is.
The only problem with that, again, though, is that if they go off,
there's not a lot of gravel so they can probably get back online
times out of town.
Or they hit a wall.
Well, yeah, small details.
But mother hit a wall at Donnington and just drove on as it was born.
I just sort of carried on.
Yeah, but we still got safety care because Procter needed it.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yeah, but three one out of three eight bad or two out of three.
Sorry to get back on track and bad, but should we get back on track?
We'll see how those predictions come in.
Do let us know yours down in the comments as well.
And the drivers that you think might take a win this weekend
and who's going to take home the Jack Sears title for the weekend?
We might have to start doing independence next year.
We might have to do that.
Absolutely. Obviously, remind I am there this weekend.
By all means, say hello or get too wet.
Thank you very much.
I am. I am looking forward to it on the soap from watching.
Try not to fall asleep because you're going to be doing the heavy lifting on the review.
We get all my notes written up.
It'll be very helpful indeed.
But yeah, I will be there.
I'm looking forward.
I do like.
Well, I don't necessarily like the race in it.
So I do like Silson as a venue because you're really good for viewing.
Yeah, it's good for viewing.
And you get more things tend to turn up at Silson as well.
So a little bit of hopefully a bit of stuff for the fans to do between races.
And actually, just before we round this up, there is actually a decent.
I know.
Packs.
Packs weekend.
So in terms of touring cars, race one is at half past 11,
race two at 20 to three and race three at 10 past five.
And then in the support categories this weekend,
we have Porsche Carrera Great Britain, which has been OK.
Yeah.
The season.
We have Porsche Carrera Sprint.
OK.
We have F4s.
Yes.
And we have what I prefer as the proper minis as in the ones.
Yeah, the JCWs.
The ones that are at most of the events.
Yes.
Yeah, JCWs.
So in fairness, that is a pretty packed timetable.
It's good to see we need to have these support races filling the gaps
rather than sort of wandering around drinking overpriced beer.
So yeah, happy to have a full schedule this weekend.
Yeah, we'll be back again early next week with a review.
Obviously, we've got a video around our darts.
But yeah, we'll work something out and bring you all up to date
with the action that comes from this weekend.
Enjoy the racing.
Bye bye.
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