An auto show is where car companies bring new cars and prototypes to display them. This part of the episode talks about when the Beijing show happens and who can attend.
Before the general public can attend, auto shows usually have days for professionals like journalists and industry people. That’s what “professional” refers to here.
Autonomous vehicles are cars that can drive themselves or help drive with technology. The level can vary, but the idea is that the car handles more of the driving than a human normally would.
A “dancing vehicle” is a car that moves in a choreographed way, usually timed to music. It’s more of a show/feature demo than something you’d use for normal driving.
They’re saying they saw a car that looked like it was styled similarly to a Ferrari. It’s a comparison of appearance, not proof of the exact brand/model.
Concept
robot
They mention seeing a robot at the show. Auto shows often use robots to demonstrate tech or help people interact with displays.
Concept
automatic driving
“Automatic driving” means the car can help drive itself. Some systems only assist you (like staying in the lane), while others can handle more of the driving, depending on the car and software.
“European regulations” are the legal requirements cars have to meet to be sold in Europe. If a company wants to sell there, it may need to adjust how the car is built or what equipment it has.
A concept vehicle is basically a “preview” car that automakers show at events. It may look and feel real, but it’s often not meant to be driven like a normal car.
Autonomous capability means the car can do some driving tasks on its own, like helping with steering or speed. Different systems do different levels of the work, so it’s not always fully self-driving.
Self-driving capabilities mean the car is trying to drive itself. In practice, many “self-driving” systems still require a human to supervise, and true robot-taxi deployments are less common than ads suggest.
Waymo is a company that builds self-driving car technology. Here, they’re asking if Waymo showed up with one of its cars at the event.
Concept
secret handshake
They’re joking about how the car might not just open normally—it may require the right key or phone to “prove” you’re allowed to use it. That’s common with keyless entry systems.
Level 4 means the car can drive itself in certain situations without you actively steering or monitoring all the time. It’s not “unlimited” self-driving everywhere, but it’s more capable than lower levels.
LiDAR is a laser-based sensor that measures how far things are around the car. It helps the car create a detailed 3D picture of the environment so it can drive more safely.
Level 3 means the car can do a lot of the driving for you, but you still have to pay attention and be ready to take control if the car asks. It’s not fully hands-off in all situations.
Level 2 means the car can help with driving, like steering and speed control, but you still have to watch the road constantly. You’re responsible for taking over immediately if something goes wrong.
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV, meaning it runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It’s a popular model because it’s designed to be practical for everyday driving. People bring it up when talking about how Tesla updates its cars and features over time.
An “EV market” just means the world of electric cars—how many are sold and where people are choosing them. They’re saying electric cars are more common in some places than others.
They’re talking about the power you use to recharge an electric car. The key point is whether there are convenient charging places where you can plug in.
Routing is the navigation plan that tells you which roads to take. For electric cars, it can also help decide where to stop to charge so you don’t run out of battery.
Long-haul trucking means hauling freight over long distances. It’s tough because trucks need to keep moving reliably for days at a time, and any delays (like charging or system downtime) are expensive.
Aurora is a company working on self-driving technology for trucks. The host is basically asking why they would sell their system to other trucking companies instead of running trucks themselves to keep more of the profits.
The Tesla Semi is an electric big-rig truck made by Tesla for hauling freight. Instead of burning diesel, it uses electricity, so the big question is whether it can charge fast enough and run cheaply enough for real trucking routes.
The Cyber Cab is Tesla’s idea for an autonomous taxi-like vehicle. The point here is that Tesla is talking about moving from prototypes to making them in larger numbers.
Mass production means making a product in big numbers, not just a few prototypes. For cars, it usually means the factory is set up to build them consistently and in higher volume.
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Welcome back to the Smart Driving Cars podcast.
We've got a special edition this time out.
Thanks for spending time with us.
I'm Fred Fishkin along with the faculty chair of autonomous vehicle engineering at Princeton
University.
Alan Kornhauser.
Hi, Alan.
Hey, good evening, Fred.
Good evening.
And we have a special guest, Professor Camille Kamga, Professor of Civil Engineering at
CCNY, director for the last 17 years or so of the University Transportation Research
Center, a consortium of academic institutions focused on transportation research and education.
Hi, Camille.
Alan.
Hello, Fred.
Hello, Camille.
Where are you, Camille?
Where are you?
Hello, from Beijing, from the China Auto Show.
It's the AutoChina 2026 Beijing Auto Show, and it's, from what you are telling me, Camille,
It's amazing over here, China, that you can have an idea how the auto show looked like.
Camille, can you give us a little bit of a, can you find a quiet corner and give us a
little update on what you've seen and how you've liked your view of the Chinese automotive
industry?
So, very impressed.
The auto show started April 24, all the way to May 30.
So, there was three sections.
From May, from April 24 to April 25, that was the first day.
And from April 26 and April 27, that was the three-day professional.
And starting on the 28th, all the way through, May 30 is the public day.
So, today is the public day.
Let me open up what I read.
There's close to 900 z-curves in the show.
A lot of companies.
900.
900.
900.
900.
Yes, 900 vehicles.
How many different makes?
Yeah, a lot of makes.
I don't see many Chinese vehicles, manufacturers, that are having her off in the past.
But you know, BWG is huge, it's big.
And I actually learned that BWG means build your dreams.
So, they have a full floor and with different type of models.
Or EV.
And sedan, same driving vehicles, autonomous vehicles, you see.
Different type of models.
And I was looking for international.
So, we have European Mercedes over here, BMW.
I haven't seen Audi.
Porsche is here.
We have Toyota.
We have Nissan.
We have Cadillac.
We have Ford.
We have J2.
We have Exid.
We have Avatar.
There's different names that you haven't heard of.
We have Qatar.
We have Luxe.
We have Cherry.
We have Z-Paint.
So, there's different ones.
So, what is amazing, all those vehicles, the dashboard, they're all digital.
So, I'm going to give you the truth.
I would say we're going to have, you have the 4x4.
Actually, I just bumped into one of the vehicles that is actually a dancing vehicle.
That can dance on the beat of sound.
And a lot of features.
It goes into amenities.
The refrigerator.
And what I've heard is kind of standard in China.
So, some of the vehicles are standard.
It's not optional.
So, you can have a small fridge as standard.
You have your refrigerator.
Keep your beverage cold.
You can keep your beverage cold.
And one of the big stories, Camille, you were telling me before, is some of the pricing that you're seeing?
Yes.
I was asking for some of the prices.
Made at the vehicle home for $12,000.
Easy.
Okay, for $12,000.
What would be the warranty?
The warranty for three years, 36 months.
Minimum.
At $12,000.
$12,000, you're saying.
$12,000.
And the battery life, they give you a warranty, a manufacturer warranty for three, 36 months.
So, three years of warranty.
And those vehicles have so many features.
It's amazing.
So, how are they doing?
Is the Chinese government paying for all this or is somehow there's no labor to manufacture a vehicle for $12,000?
How do you manufacture a vehicle for $12,000?
You would think that the battery costs half of that, doesn't it?
Or no?
Yeah, I guess I'm surprised.
The funny stuff, I don't speak Chinese.
I wish I had someone.
So, I have to, anytime I have a conversation through a stream where they have to record what I'm asking and project what I'm asking.
Unfortunately, many of them are not speaking English over here.
But I guess I expect the labor is very cheap in China.
Actually, many of the clips that I'm taking, I'm taking Gigi.
I'll let you know Gigi, so I'm moving with Gigi.
So, they have a trip for seven miles.
It's less, it's $103.
A lot of EV, many of the vehicles are EV.
And the license plate, you can recognize the vehicle by the license plate.
So, all the EV have the green license plate.
If it's gas, it's going to be blue and commercial, so you can get a lot of EVs.
And one other question that I was asking, I don't see that many chargers.
Where people charge the vehicles for the EV, it seems like they charge it at some point.
So, I was looking for a lot of public charging.
I don't see that much.
I've seen some of the pictures of the, there was a Rolls Royce look-alike
and a Ferrari look-alike.
And what, have they just gone nuts?
They just might as well just make all this stuff.
You want to take us as you're talking?
Do you want to show us some things there that you've seen that are interesting?
So, are they giving people rides?
No, they don't give people rides.
That's unfortunate.
So, this is a worker, doesn't it?
Are they faking it or is it real?
You have to trust it.
You have to trust it.
I have to trust it.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
Oh, great.
Why not?
Okay.
So, you can see, I'm about to show.
This worker, he was against the vehicle.
So, they're going to play the show later on.
Soon.
And they think we're going to dance.
So, I'm going to...
Let's go to the autonomous vehicle.
One of the most one.
Is there a steering wheel in it or no steering wheel?
No, there's no steering wheel.
No steering wheel.
You know John Peter, he was the guest lecturer of my class on Monday.
Oh, okay.
I got lucky.
So, he was...
I was teaching for potential finance.
That was the topic.
So, one of the...
This one of the...
Yeah.
Okay.
So, how much is that car?
Okay.
Let me ask.
Yeah.
Let me ask one of the...
Yeah.
Let me tell me.
Okay.
It's $27,000.
Okay.
That's...
You see how you handle, you open it.
Yeah.
And that would be close.
Every test one like yes.
Yeah.
Every...
But I'm going to show you something really fancy.
Oh, a purple one.
A purple one.
I want the purple one.
I love purple.
I think I just saw a robot over on the right side, too.
Oh, yeah.
There's an X-Pen robot.
Hey, I wonder if Chen Yi Chen is there.
You see that's a purple one.
So, if you know...
How much is the purple one?
I want the purple one.
I mean, keep that guy.
He speaks English.
19.
20,000.
Yeah.
20.
It's cheaper.
Wow.
$20,000.
What?
Only in China.
Only in China, the price.
Only in China.
You say only in China the price.
Probably not.
What has surprised you the most?
The linear drive vehicles had never two and never two automatic driving.
So, it's amazing, because even though they had the power steering, but they never two
and never three.
And the electronics of the vehicles and the features that they have are very impressive.
So, the stories that we've heard about how dominant they can be globally, wherever they're
at, they're pretty accurate.
Yes.
Yes.
Actually, maybe you heard in Europe that there was some legislation to kind of restrict
the market to those manufacturers from China.
That's right.
And what they did.
So, they built their vehicle in country.
I guess they went to some of the Eastern European countries to open the plant so they
can have the vehicle over there.
So, they can be in compliance with the European regulations.
They are available in places like Australia.
And now some in Canada as well.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
So, that's the way the door opens.
See how the door opens?
On the rooftop.
Is there a steering wheel?
No.
Let me get close to so you can see.
Is there a motor?
I mean, is it real?
Is it real?
Yeah, it's real.
What do you mean it's real?
It's real.
Is it a move?
That's a back seat.
That's a back seat.
How do you look like in the back?
That's what it looks like in the back.
Now, that's a concept vehicle, I assume.
That's a concept.
Yeah, that's a concept vehicle.
Yeah, so the concept vehicles don't work anyway.
Okay.
So, yeah.
I'm going to go and get the one.
This one is a concept one.
Is there a real vehicle?
Well, we have the same thing here.
At the auto shows in Detroit and wherever.
There are always a lot of concepts.
Yeah.
We know all about concepts.
The question is, we're some substance.
What about the vehicles?
Camille, tell us about the vehicles that you're seeing
on the street.
What percentage are EVs?
And have you noticed the many that have
Tesla like autonomous capability
or self-driving capabilities?
Yeah, many of the vehicles on the street,
the EVs are many EVs,
but I won't be able to tell you
because the issue, I don't really know the answer.
I don't, because I'm sure that they have,
I see some on YouTube that they have
some autonomous robot taxi that you can call,
but I haven't seen that many.
Have you ridden one?
No.
You've got to ride one.
I have to ride one now.
So many of the taxi that I have,
he was a driver.
I have a driver.
Is Waymo there?
Did Waymo bring a vehicle?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think Waymo did.
The Tesla?
No, I didn't see Tesla.
I didn't see Tesla.
That's not the photo.
They make, that's not the photo.
Oh, that's nice interior.
That's got your interior, Ellen.
That's my interior.
That's your interior, Ellen.
That's my interior.
Order him too.
Order him too.
Can we just put him on a barge and send him over?
Yeah.
This is the street.
You open.
You open it and you close it with your hands.
And you tap it.
Tap it in the front of the new bus.
You can tap it.
Yes.
Tap it.
Can you open it?
No.
Hopefully you need a key or something.
It needs a secret handshake.
I don't know.
Isn't it easier just to push a button?
Come on, I don't care.
I guess the most telling thing would be, if you could, would you be bringing one of these
vehicles home with you?
I wish I was.
I wish, if I don't have to pay the tax, right?
No, I wish.
I wish the very impressive vehicles, because I have a colleague in Beijing who actually
drive with those Chinese vehicles, and they're very impressed with the performance.
This is level four.
This is what level four?
Really?
Go in there.
See if there's a steering wheel.
How can it be, well, where's the LiDAR?
Is that the LiDAR?
I don't get to talk about that.
It's like the Wymount.
The height on top.
This is level three.
It's different.
So that one is level four, so that's level three, and then you can see level two.
It's our fault, it's our fault, so level two and level two are not on sale yet.
When will they start selling level four?
When?
They're going to start selling level three and level four.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So we don't suppose they stop?
Okay, they don't know when that will be.
Ask them to show you the camera on the front bumper.
You have camera on the front?
Yeah, any cameras?
Yeah.
On the front bumper?
Can she point to it?
Yeah.
Where?
That's one over there.
That's a camera?
No, no, no, no, no.
That's one over here, that's one over here.
That's a camera?
Yeah.
That's one over there.
And that's one over there.
Okay, okay, okay.
Oh, they have three cameras.
Oh my goodness.
They have two, but the whole car has 11.
This car can actually fight itself to drive.
Okay.
Don't need to drive.
Yeah.
This can't be destroyed.
Can't be saved.
Okay.
Okay, thank you.
Well, that's going to wrap up this special edition.
Really a great special edition.
We want to thank Professor Camille Kamga from the City College of New York for joining us
from Beijing.
That was really special, Alan.
Yes, I guess we were just joking around a lot.
I guess maybe we should have also been serious a little bit too.
I think that looks like what they have is a number of very good conventional cars available.
And I guess some with some technology.
The...
It is telling that Tesla's are still selling fairly briskly in China, despite all the manufacturing
going on there.
Yeah, well, or, you know, one wonders whether or not...
I guess the Glitz sells.
I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll have to see.
Or what to see what kind of models Tesla evolves or doesn't evolve or whatever other manufacturers
or whether or not this is really going to influence the German manufacturers or whether
it will influence Ford and GM and Dodge and so on.
I don't know.
Clearly, the EV market is much bigger in China and in other parts of the world, Norway,
for instance, and other Scandinavian countries than it has been here.
But we'll see what develops, right?
Yeah, right.
I don't know what's going to happen in the EV market.
Certainly my road trip experiences of late.
But it's really nice that there are chargers all over the place.
Range.
I think range is a non-issue, really is a non-issue, because you want to stop anyway.
I mean, unless you're going to put, like, bathrooms in these vehicles or you're going
to carry a bottle or whatever.
I mean, you know, I guess there are ways to not have to stop, but the range thing is,
as long as there are convenient places to get electricity and why not, have you found
a range issue to be an issue with your car?
I mean, you've been not driving an electric car now.
For a number of years.
You've taken some substantial trips.
I've taken some and I have not run into any issues.
There are really no issues and of course the software support for that is really phenomenal
because of course the routing and so on and figuring out what is the best place for you
to stop and so on.
Given the fact that the monitoring of the number of chargers available and whatever, at least
at this point, it's, hey, my experience has been somewhat limited, but I haven't even noticed
a problem.
Well, we want to thank Camille for spending time with us once again.
Hope you had a safe journey back home at the end of the show.
You can find more and our newsletter at SmartDrivingCar.com, Alan's newsletter.
Find my tech reports at Textination.com.
Thanks again for taking the time to watch or listen and stay safe.
But Fred, it's our newsletter because every time we publish it, there's a pod and zoom
cast in there.
So come on, Fred.
I mean, how many of these have we done now?
For those counties, episode 412.
412.
It's amazing.
What the hell have we done?
Is it going to happen?
It's happening.
It's happening.
It seems like, you know, Tesla's out there claiming they're going to open in a bunch
of cities, Waymo's opening all over the darn place.
Hopefully they'll find a vehicle that they can outfit with their stuff that will do it.
I think the comments that we've made recently with respect to certainly long haul trucking,
I'm just surprised that Aurora hasn't just said, my goodness, instead of selling this
thing to some other trucking company, why don't we go out there and we run a trucking
company with our stuff and really extract the economic value of the darn thing?
Why do we have to sell it at some value less than what it really delivers to somebody else
so that they can get some value out of the darn thing themselves?
Why don't they just capture it?
It's surprising.
It seems like that's what Tesla's really doing, saying, instead of creating an item
that's going to let somebody else deliver something at greater value, why don't we just
capture the additional value that our product delivers to society?
From what I read, the Tesla Semi and the Cyber Cab have just started what they call mass
production.
Yeah.
Maybe then they'll go out and haul freight.
I mean, if they're going to move people, why not haul freight?
Why should it take US Express?
Why should it take Warner?
Why should it take JB Hunt?
Or why should it take an independent owner operator?
If the thing that they're doing is really replacing the driving piece, then all they
need is the fleet management and the fleet utilization over it, and as we've learned
in developing our own, I mean, that is a substantial investment and substantial effort that, given
what they've put in already, it should be pretty straightforward for them.
Well, maybe they'll make the lemonade and drink it, too.
This is going to be a big year, I think.
In one way or another, we're going to learn a lot.
Yeah, and things are really changing, and I think one of the things that I've put again
in the newsletter, if you haven't looked at the publication on machine learning, I think
you should read it because it really is a very good expo, say, of how we got to where
we are and where we're going and the interesting element as to how well it is really working.
To me, it is astonishing that it's working as well as it's working.
Once again, thank you all for watching or listening, and as we said, stay safe.
About this episode
The hosts spend much of the conversation on the Beijing Auto Show, where Camille describes a huge, highly digital Chinese market filled with low-priced EVs, unusual amenities, and concept vehicles pushing autonomy forward. They then debate autonomy levels, sensor setups, and what level 4 really means, before shifting to Tesla’s still-strong sales in China, EV range skepticism, and broader questions about robotaxis and autonomous trucking.
What is it like at the 2026 Auto Show in Beijing? On episode 412 of Smart Driving Cars, we get a look at the show floor, courtesy of CCNY Professor Camille Kamga, Director of the University Transportation Research Center. EVs, automation and more! Plus robotaxis, long haul trucking, Tesla, Waymo and more. Tune in and subscribe.