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SnailMail: Wipping A Cookie With UHMWPE

SnailMail: Wipping A Cookie With UHMWPE

Snail Trail 4x4 Offroad Podcast May 01, 2026 45 min
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About this episode

Snail mail drives the conversation from locker troubleshooting and King of the Hammers recovery etiquette into listener check-ins, locker durability debates, and a surprising Australian engineering detour. The hosts also compare Eaton e-lockers and ARB designs, hear about a Mule differential failure, and wrap with a voicemail about how mistakes and failed attempts can still be part of learning. Along the way, the episode keeps circling back to trail responsibility, mechanical reliability, and the value of showing up.

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Term

air locker

"FYI, if an air locker is actuating correctly, you will not have gear oil coming up the breather hose or the locker solenoid. If that is happening, the caller inside the diff is leaking, which is pressurizing"

An air locker is a device in the differential that can “lock” the wheels together using air pressure. That helps when one wheel starts spinning, because the other wheel can keep pulling too.

Term

locker solenoid

"FYI, if an air locker is actuating correctly, you will not have gear oil coming up the breather hose or the locker solenoid. If that is happening, the caller inside the diff is leaking, which is pressurizing"

A locker solenoid is an electrical switch/valve that controls when the locker engages. If the system is leaking, you can sometimes see oil where it shouldn’t show up.

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breather hose

"FYI, if an air locker is actuating correctly, you will not have gear oil coming up the breather hose or the locker solenoid. If that is happening, the caller inside the diff is leaking, which is pressurizing"

A breather hose is like a pressure vent for the differential. If oil starts coming out of it, something inside may be leaking or building too much pressure.

Term

diff

"If that is happening, the caller inside the diff is leaking, which is pressurizing"

“Diff” means the differential, the part that manages how the wheels turn relative to each other. Off-road diffs may also include a locking feature to improve traction.

Term

pressurizing

"If that is happening, the caller inside the diff is leaking, which is pressurizing"

“Pressurizing” means the differential area is building extra pressure it shouldn’t. That extra pressure can push oil out through vents or seals, which is a sign of a problem.

Term

solenoids

"...I always end up getting gear oil coming back up the hose and the solenoids popping out, spraying out the solenoids."

A solenoid is an electrically controlled “switch” that moves a valve. In an air locker, it helps control when air goes to the locking mechanism.

Term

gear oil

"...gear oil coming back up the hose and the solenoids popping out... If there's a leak, then it doesn't hold pressure... And you get gear oil up into your vehicle..."

Gear oil is the special oil used in the differential/axle to keep gears from wearing out. Here, they’re saying it’s leaking where it shouldn’t, which can mess up the locker’s operation.

Term

axle swap

"...before I did the axle swap and did the Ford Tundra, Super Tundra axles under Kermit."

An axle swap is replacing one axle assembly with another—often to change gear ratios, strength, or compatibility with a different differential/locker setup. In off-road builds, it’s commonly done to improve durability or traction.

Term

locking mechanism

"...then you have air going into the locker and actuating the locking mechanism in there and pressurizing it."

The locking mechanism is the part inside the locker that actually makes the axle “lock up.” With an air locker, air pressure is what triggers that internal lock to engage.

Term

E-locker

"[298.5s] I was just sick and tired of it, so. [301.0s] E-locker made things easy. [302.5s] They're very simple, very easy. [304.4s] They're definitely not as strong."

An E-locker is a device that helps a 4x4 get traction off-road. It can “lock” the two wheels on an axle together so if one wheel slips, the other can still pull you forward.

Concept

run recovery

"[362.8s] He's a Billy badass at, uh, run recovery. [365.8s] He was actually in Turkey Claw for the 2024 debacle all three days."

In off-road racing, “recovery” means helping a vehicle that’s stuck or broken get unstuck and back on track. “Run recovery” is basically the crew’s job of doing that during the event.

Topic

UTV race

"[370.5s] Um, the problem that they had was on Thursday for the UTV race. [374.4s] Uh, all the winch points of factor 55 and worn industries had set up."

They’re talking about a race for UTVs, which are off-road side-by-sides. The issue was related to recovery gear needed during the event.

Term

winch points

"[370.5s] Um, the problem that they had was on Thursday for the UTV race. [374.4s] Uh, all the winch points of factor 55 and worn industries had set up. [378.4s] I had been stolen."

A “winch point” is a strong spot on the vehicle or course where you hook up the winch cable. Using the right one helps the recovery work and keeps things safer.

Brand

Factor 55

"[374.4s] Uh, all the winch points of factor 55 and worn industries had set up. [378.4s] I had been stolen."

Factor 55 makes off-road recovery equipment, like parts you use to connect a winch safely. People use their gear when they’re setting up recoveries at events.

Brand

Worn Industries

"[374.4s] Uh, all the winch points of factor 55 and worn industries had set up. [378.4s] I had been stolen."

Worn Industries is a company that makes off-road gear used for things like recovery and rigging. The episode is saying their recovery setup items were stolen.

Topic

EMC

"[384.0s] everything set up in time and get everything put back out. [387.2s] I believe they had everything squared away again for the EMC on, uh, Friday. [391.5s] But, um, even so, uh, whether there's one person there or not, the job of"

EMC appears to be the name of an event the speaker expects the recovery setup to be ready for on Friday. Since the transcript doesn’t expand the acronym, it’s best treated as an event topic rather than a defined technical term.

Concept

rolled over

"Um, if somebody rolls, they're not supposed to roll them over unless it's, uh, hindering course or, uh, causing problems. ... unless it's a health or safety issue or to try to actually, like if somebody's broken or rolled over, the recovery crew is not supposed to touch the car."

“Rolled over” means the vehicle flipped onto its side or roof. Because it can be unstable and dangerous, the crew shouldn’t just start moving it unless there’s a safety reason.

Concept

hindering course

"Um, if somebody rolls, they're not supposed to roll them over unless it's, uh, hindering course or, uh, causing problems."

“Hindering course” means a vehicle is getting in the way of the trail or blocking others. If it’s causing that kind of problem, the event may allow extra help to keep things safe and flowing.

Concept

recovery crew

"So, uh, just because people are struggling, the recovery crew is not supposed to get in there and fix them. ... They can act as a winch point. They can do all those things, but they do not, they are not required to clear course."

A recovery crew is the group that helps when a truck gets stuck or flips over. They’re there to help safely—often by setting up the pull point for a winch—rather than jumping in and moving things around for everyone.

Brand

Toyota

"And, uh, I don't know, maybe everything sucks because it's not just Toyota's,"

Toyota is a car brand. In this part of the episode, it’s mentioned as part of the conversation, but no specific Toyota model or technical details are given.

Concept

side-by-sides

"It was the big year at back door when they had all the side-by-sides go down ... that day we rolled over over 75 side-by-sides at back door."

“Side-by-sides” (often called UTVs) are off-road vehicles with two seats side-by-side, typically used for trail riding and events. They can be prone to rollovers if they hit uneven ground at speed or take tight turns on loose surfaces.

Concept

rolls a car over

"both years I was told that if, uh, team rolls a car over and, or anything, and they're in the middle of the trail and blocking traffic"

“Rolls a car over” means the vehicle flips onto its side or roof. It’s a big safety issue because it can trap people and block the trail.

Concept

choke point

"And it's such a tight choke point that they, that was like our main job was to keep traffic going there."

A “choke point” is a tight spot on the trail where cars can’t get around each other. If something goes wrong there, it can hold up everyone behind it.

Topic

King of the Hammers

"I've never volunteered at King of the Hammers for recovery or anything. ... I was not at Jack Hammer or up in those trails to have a first-eye vision on it."

King of the Hammers is a well-known extreme off-road race. It’s the kind of event where vehicles get stuck or flip, so people have to help with recovery to keep things safe and moving.

Concept

on its lid

"Like your, your goal, you have, if a side-by-side is on its lid, you need to get, help them to get it over, um, to keep the race going."

“On its lid” means the vehicle flipped over and is sitting on its roof. In a race, other drivers or marshals may need to help right it so it can move again safely.

Concept

recovery efforts

"I just heard it through kind of a third party, um, that, that used to be pretty involved with recovery efforts up there, that, um, the lone person in Jack Hammer was not doing their job or whatever."

Recovery efforts are what people do when a vehicle gets stuck or flips and needs help getting back on track. It usually involves tools like a winch and a team working together so the race can continue.

Topic

Jack Hammer

"...that used to be pretty involved with recovery efforts up there, that, um, the lone person in Jack Hammer was not doing their job or whatever. So, um, I never talked to that person, talked to Benji, um, and I was not at Jack Hammer or up in those trails..."

“Jack Hammer” sounds like a specific part of the off-road course where the speaker says recovery help was (or wasn’t) handled properly. It’s mentioned as a location, not as a vehicle or part.

Topic

ultra four

"[641.6s] Rhea called back. [642.4s] Oh, ultra four. [643.8s] All right. [644.8s] Here we go. [645.5s] Okay. [646.2s] Hey, it's your ultra four escort again, uh, back."

Ultra4 is a type of off-road racing where people drive through very tough terrain. An “escort” usually means support help during the event.

Concept

winching

"[652.3s] My thought up about the winching, um, especially on EMC day, I can't speak [656.5s] for, uh, race Kings Day cause I didn't get there."

Winching is when you use a powered cable/rope on a winch to pull a stuck vehicle out. It’s often used in mud or deep ruts when you can’t just drive forward.

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sludge

"[659.1s] But, uh, on EMC day, I was at the bottom of sludge for a significant [663.6s] amount of time, um, probably till around two o'clock."

Sludge is really thick, sticky mud. Your tires can sink into it and lose grip, so getting out usually takes tools like winching or careful recovery.

Topic

Barrett Lake and Rubicon day trips

"But like the kid loves being outside and I would love to go on like one of my goals this year is to get to Barrett Lake and Rubicon day trips at least five or six times. Okay. So go take the kid out of daycare, skip daycare that day mid week and go to Barrett Lake, have lunch, come out."

They’re talking about taking day trips to go off-roading. The point is to get out and enjoy the outdoors more often.

Car

Wrangler Rubicon

"... my goals this year is to get to Barrett Lake and Rubicon day trips at least five or six times."

The Wrangler is an off-road SUV made for driving on trails and rough roads. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because the speaker wants to take it on multiple off-road day trips. That kind of vehicle is chosen specifically for that repeated trail use.

Term

transfer case

"He has a really good breakdown where he had him in his ultimate day to 60 under his jakey and he couldn't keep them alive."

A transfer case is the part that sends power to both the front and rear axles in a 4x4. Low range makes the vehicle crawl with more torque, which can be tough on drivetrain parts.

Term

side gears

"And I don't think he wheels that hard. The teeth on them are super duper small on the side gears."

Side gears are the gears inside the differential that send power out to each axle shaft. If they’re small or not strong enough, they can break when you’re putting a lot of torque to the wheels.

Term

ARVs

"So he's putting ARVs in that. Uh, you can look at an ARV and look to see how when they're pulled apart, like the teeth are much larger, my opinion."

ARVs here sound like a specific gear-related part. The hosts are saying you can learn a lot about how it’s made or how worn it is by taking it apart and looking at the teeth.

Term

UHMW wheels

"The other thing, the UHMW wheels give back in the day when I was a kid... put them under the rear wheels, lock the e-brake and then when you drive in a circle, you can like whip a cookie..."

UHMW is a tough plastic that doesn’t wear out easily and slides well. They’re using it on wheels/trays to make the car slide around more easily.

Topic

McDonald's trays

"...allegedly I would take a front wheel drive car, go steal some trays for McDonald's, put them under the rear wheels..."

They’re telling a childhood story about using fast-food trays as a slippery surface to make a car slide. It’s not a real car mod—just how they learned the trick.

Term

e-brake

"...put them under the rear wheels, lock the e-brake and then when you drive in a circle, you can like whip a cookie in a front wheel drive car like crazy."

The e-brake is the parking brake. Locking it can help the car lose traction at the rear so it’s easier to spin or slide in a controlled way.

Concept

whip a cookie

"...put them under the rear wheels, lock the e-brake and then when you drive in a circle, you can like whip a cookie in a front wheel drive car like crazy."

“Whip a cookie” is a slang way to describe spinning/sliding the car around in a tight circle. They’re saying the slick UHMW setup makes that kind of drift easier.

Topic

man rovers still suck

"...And, uh, man rovers still suck. That's like putting a PVC pipe over the wheels on three wheelers."

They’re just joking/complaining about Land Rover-style vehicles in this moment. It’s not really explaining a specific mechanical detail.

Car

3 Three Wheelers

"...That's like putting a PVC pipe over the wheels on three wheelers. Yeah, yeah, pretty much so you can drift."

A 3 wheeler is a vehicle that has three wheels instead of four. The podcast is using it as an example of how changing the tires or what’s around the wheels can change how the vehicle grips the ground. That can make it easier to slide or drift.

Concept

front wheel drive car

"You ripped through it and yeah, any front wheel drive car, you drive forward, [1379.6s] you make sure that both rear tires are on those trays."

Front-wheel drive means the front wheels are the ones that get the engine’s power. On slippery surfaces, it can feel like the car is “stuck” unless the wheels that are driving have grip.

Term

carriers

"...as well as the strength of the carriers themselves. [1433.3s] I know the carriers that Eaton uses, they use, [1437.1s] they, they like to use one size carrier for multiple size lockers."

The carrier is the “housing” inside the differential that holds the gears in place. A stronger carrier can help the locker survive harder use.

Brand

Eaton

"I know the carriers that Eaton uses, they use, [1437.1s] they, they like to use one size carrier for multiple size lockers."

Eaton is a company that makes parts for off-road drivetrains, including locking differential components. Here, they’re being compared based on how their internal parts are sized and built.

Brand

ARB

"So whereas ARB actually builds their carrier bigger and thicker, [1453.1s] the bigger the gear ring that you do goes right."

ARB is a company that makes locking differential systems for off-road use. In this discussion, they’re described as using sturdier internal parts when the locking gear is larger.

Term

gear ring

"So whereas ARB actually builds their carrier bigger and thicker, [1453.1s] the bigger the gear ring that you do goes right."

The gear ring is part of the axle’s gear setup that the locker works with. When the gear ring is bigger, the locker internals often need to be built stronger to match.

Term

spider gears

"But I didn't know that the teeth in size, inside the spider gears of the locker inside of the carrier,"

Spider gears are the internal gears in a differential. They help the wheels turn at different speeds, and in a locker they’re part of what determines how the locking action handles stress.

Car

tundra

"But my main question is, is the spider gear teeth in the tundra, 10 and a half inch e-locker from Eaton,"

They’re discussing a Toyota Tundra that has an Eaton e-locker. They’re trying to figure out if the internal gears inside that locker are the same as in other trucks.

Car

super duty

"the same spider gear teeth that's in the super duty. Eaton e-locker, nine and a half e-locker."

“Super Duty” is Ford’s heavy-duty truck line. They’re wondering if the Eaton locker inside a Super Duty uses the same internal gears as the one in a Tundra.

Term

10 and a half inch

"is the spider gear teeth in the tundra, 10 and a half inch e-locker from Eaton,"

“10 and a half inch” refers to the size class of the axle’s main gears. The speaker is wondering if that larger axle uses the same internal spider gears as a smaller one.

Term

nine and a half

"Eaton e-locker, nine and a half e-locker. OK. Yeah, I don't know."

“Nine and a half” is a way people describe the size of the axle’s main gear set. Different axle sizes can use different internal gear parts.

Term

high pinion

"the same size as the super duty nine and a half high pinion spider gear on the e-locker?"

“High pinion” means the axle’s main gears are positioned higher in the housing. That can affect how the axle is built and what internal parts fit inside.

Topic

KOH

"And I wasn't down at KOH the week following, right? If I had taken that rig and got to KOH, like, let's just say the hubs were unlocked."

KOH is an off-road race/event they’re talking about. The idea is that if the problem happened there, it would likely be much worse because the terrain and speeds are more intense.

Term

hubs were unlocked

"If I had taken that rig and got to KOH, like, let's just say the hubs were unlocked. It's very likely that I would have taken that car to KOH the next week."

On some 4x4 trucks, the front wheels can be disconnected when you’re not using 4WD. “Unlocked hubs” means the truck isn’t fully driving the front wheels, which changes how the drivetrain behaves.

Concept

engine change

"Like and I understand like when you do an engine change in California in your vehicle, I get why they make you go to the referee and get it refereed afterwards, right?"

An engine change means swapping the engine in your vehicle for a different one. Since that can change how the car runs and meets safety/emissions rules, some places require extra approval before you can drive it legally.

Concept

referee

"in your vehicle, I get why they make you go to the referee and get it refereed afterwards, right? So like I get it. I totally get it."

Here, “referee” means an official inspector who checks your modified vehicle. They make sure the work was done properly and that it’s safe to drive.

Term

factory tire size

"You know, it's like, you know, what's the rules in Australia? You can't go over two inches more than the factory tire size."

“Factory tire size” is the tire size your vehicle was designed to use from the factory. If you go much bigger, it can change how the truck fits and drives, so some places require extra approval.

Concept

engineering

"Like if you if you come stock with thirty ones, you can only go up to thirty threes without engineering, without engineering. Yeah. So but you can technically go and do whatever you want as long as you go through the engineering and it still behaves"

“Engineering” here means you can’t just change things and hope for the best—you have to get the modification reviewed and proven safe. That usually involves paperwork and inspections.

Term

thirty ones

"Like if you if you come stock with thirty ones, you can only go up to thirty threes without engineering, without engineering."

“Thirty ones” is a quick way of saying the tire is about 31 inches tall. It matters because tire size changes can affect fitment and how the vehicle drives.

Term

thirty threes

"you can only go up to thirty threes without engineering, without engineering. Yeah. So but you can technically go and do whatever you want"

“Thirty threes” means tires about 33 inches tall. The point is that going bigger than that threshold may require extra approval.

Concept

herd theory

"That's what is the herd theory in vaccinations? ... if somebody has autoimmune issues and can't get vaccinated ... the way you protect them is through herd theory."

They’re talking about “herd immunity.” If most people are protected, the disease spreads less, so it’s safer for people who can’t be protected as easily. They’re using it as a comparison to safety rules that protect everyone.

Term

welding

"And then as far as your welding goes, or anybody's welding or anybody's, you know, whatever they have going on with repairs or fixes or building or that whole journeyman that used to say, it's only an asset if you leave it that way. And that kind of goes to that whole welding thing in my mind where like you can mess up a weld as much as you want and you just grind it out and redo it again until you make it look nice."

Welding is how you permanently join metal pieces together. You heat the metal until it fuses, then let it cool so the parts become one solid joint.

Term

grind it out

"And that kind of goes to that whole welding thing in my mind where like you can mess up a weld as much as you want and you just grind it out and redo it again until you make it look nice. But hopefully that kind of makes sense."

After a weld, you can use a grinder to remove the bad weld material. Then you can redo the weld until it’s right.

Term

root pass

"It was when I was welding on the axle and I kept failing with like the root pass."

A root pass is the very first layer of weld you put down at the bottom of the joint. If that first layer doesn’t fuse properly, the rest of the weld can look fine but still be weak.

Company

Fortune Off-Road

"And then Fortune Off-Road called back, called it and then said that he was, he did more or less the same thing."

Fortune Off-Road is mentioned as someone who reached out and shared that they’d run into a similar problem. It’s likely part of the off-road community or a build-related contact.

Term

channel

"...he had to clear it because I was only clearing out a little bit and my weld was filling up the small section of the channel rather than getting down into the channel."

In this context, the channel is the groove you make in the metal so the weld can go in and connect properly. If it’s not opened up enough, the weld may only fill the top instead of reaching where it should.

Term

TIG welder

"I would clear this tiny channel because I wanted to lay this tiny weld like you probably should have done with a TIG welder and I'm doing it with a MIG, right?"

A TIG welder is a type of welding setup that uses a small tungsten tip and a protective gas. It’s known for making very controlled, neat welds.

Term

MIG

"I would clear this tiny channel because I wanted to lay this tiny weld like you probably should have done with a TIG welder and I'm doing it with a MIG, right?"

MIG is a welding method that feeds wire automatically while a protective gas helps keep the weld clean. It’s usually quicker and easier than TIG, but you still have to set it up right for small welds.

Term

puddle

"And husband stepped in and he's like, cleared this channel way out. So it made it much easier for me to get the puddle down where it needed to be, you know?"

The puddle is the small pool of melted metal that forms where you’re welding. If you control it well, the weld will bond strongly where it needs to.

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