Special Guests, Dustin and John From Driveway Finds! — Carmudgeon w/ Jason Cammisa & DTS — Ep. 206

Do you see them?

See whom?

People.

What people?

People here.

Jason's seeing things.

I'm also on the wrong side of the screen.

The screen is also sideways.

Very uncomfortable.

This is the perpendicular car margin show.

Should we be uncomfortable too?

You guys should be really uncomfortable.

Where are the people?

I haven't seen people.

You both are the people.

And the fact that you don't realize you're the people

is probably why I'm so scared.

It's the figment of your imagining.

We're not actually here.

I would be imagining something way hotter.

Oh, wow.

Oh, just hit us.

I mean, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

We're about to spend an hour talking about my Vangina.

And I think that means we're friends now.

I hope so.

I still haven't figured out what a Vangina is.

He has not gone.

Somebody when you're older.

The kids these days.

I am banned from bringing it up or saying it.

So, the thing.

Doesn't seem to stomp you.

However, this is the perpendicular car margin episode.

We are here with our very special guests,

the guys from the driveway find.

The driveway finds or the, the,

it's just driveway find.

Just driveway find.

The driveway find show,

which is a new show on Hagerty.

This is a particularly debauchery episode

where we all talk about burnouts,

fuckery, Vanginas, Holly Retro Brights,

BMW E30s, BMW E30s,

BMW E28s, American Iron,

1000 horsepower million fucking burnout shit.

Yeah.

Just Australian style.

Australian style.

This is a good episode.

It's a really good episode.

I actually, I will,

I will stick around and listen to this now.

You don't have to.

Cause you just lived it.

I lived it.

Oh, yeah.

So again, we should probably mention to the audience

that we've already recorded the episode.

And now, now we need to go and repent for.

We're new here.

For all the things we're saying.

And no one burst into flames.

So that's a, that's a good sign.

Not during the episode.

We talked about him catching on fire.

That is who.

Yeah.

Okay.

Go home and light a candle.

Oh, we're good.

Um, should, should Derek clap or should we have our,

I think we should have our guests clap.

It would be an honor.

Oh my gosh.

Dustin, it's all you.

I'm going to let you have this honor.

But hold on.

I just want to let you know 70 to 80,000 people

will be watching this clap.

Performance anxiety.

So think about one of our medium performing

or worst performing reels.

Not a lot of bass.

It was a little trevally.

It was a little bright.

It had a bright sound.

But good volume.

No, it wasn't not bad.

That was a solid beat.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Let's see how you want bass.

I got bass.

He's got a little hands.

So I don't know if that actually factors up a little bit here.

Boom.

That was bass.

Are we going to mix them together

and kind of have both?

It's going to be a song.

Can you mix it in with sandstorm?

Well, you know, have you ever heard of like our little thing?

The little Carmagen show.

So we'll just redo it with claps.

No, we don't have resources.

And there's the meat, meat, horn.

What is, what I've been meaning to ask.

What is the horn?

We don't know.

Oh, no.

Has anyone ever asked?

Yes.

We can ask people,

we can ask our ex-co-worker did it.

I wonder if he'll remember or if he's too high.

I'm sure he won't.

He's probably too high.

It sounds very much like whatever that thing's got.

Meat, meat.

Yeah.

Like a road runner horn.

Okay. Let's go back to,

we're going to do the credits

and then we're going to come back and talk to you guys.

Okay.

I just want to, I just, you have to do it.

You have to do it.

See, it's fucking terrible, right?

Mine was kind of better.

Yours was way better.

I'm sorry.

It was better.

People genuinely think I'm being a dick to him,

but he just can't clap.

Yeah. That's true.

It's so sad.

Yours was, yes, both of yours were good.

Yours was a solid B minus.

That'll give a solid A minus.

That was deep and big.

I didn't know it was fucking bad.

It was voluminous and Derek's was a passing grade

because it actually made a clapping sound.

Other times we have to cut out.

It's just,

I'm kidding.

Now I'm kidding.

Pulls out of the chair.

Derek, try it again.

Anyway.

I saw this all the time on cartoons when we were a kid.

Would you pass the salt?

I thought you'd never ask.

So we just look like a very wealthy couple.

Well, the help was supposed to do this, right?

Yes, exactly.

Here, have some pepper.

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I mean, I have a, I do have a talking point.

It's cars, motor, sickles and boats.

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Not trains and airplanes.

Trains might use 12 volt batteries too.

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What?

Jumpers.

Jumpers, as in like sweaters.

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Yes, electric sweaters, AKA jumper boxes.

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So a little solar panels that you can plug in

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Yes, both jumping and charging.

The charge and start, right?

Which is both a Battery Tender brand battery charger

and a Battery Tender brand jumper box.

All-in-one that you can keep in your car.

Right, cool.

I've never heard of that elsewhere.

So with that out of the way,

we should probably invite our guests in.

We should also mention the discount.

Discount code, Haggerty20.

Who wants a discount?

I think everyone wants a discount.

How much is the discount?

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Great.

Thank you.

We will now resume the elongated table

perpendicular car margin show episode.

I will, if you would please pass me the salt,

I will invite the invites back in.

Please do not hit me with the condiments.

Thank you.

I'll be taking those away.

Who the fuck are you?

Why are you here?

What is that?

We like cars.

I'm always here.

You can't pretend not to recognize me.

Actually, hold on.

Are we on the wrong sides of the room?

Yes, we are.

You guys usually sit here.

Wait, if you switch, you would have to...

You have us on the wrong side.

You're just trying to get rid of the mic.

Mike has us on the wrong side of the room.

I don't think it matters.

The audience is going to be very confused.

I'm very confused, but I'm always very confused.

I'm going to ask you again for the second

and final fucking time.

They're confused because of us, obviously.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

That's what the computer comes from.

Welcome, our special, hold on,

esteemed guests to the Car Mudgeon show.

Wow, oh my gosh.

Yes, exactly.

You guys have a new show on the...

Well, I'm going to pronounce it in the Michigan.

It's native Michigan way.

Hagerty Channel on YouTube.

I kind of nailed that.

Yeah, well, I spent a lot of time in Michigan.

And you're called Driveway Finns.

Something like that.

Drivaway, fine.

Drivaway, established in 2018.

Will you both look really mature for seven years old?

Yeah.

You don't act it.

You act like four-year-olds.

We grew up fast.

Yeah, I try.

That's what car studio is.

I'm trying to match that energy today.

Okay, great.

So let's start with introductions for there's a camera there.

There's a camera there.

I'm going to pretend I'm the guy from Hot Ones.

It's like, you know, go ahead and just watch that.

I know you don't.

Do you watch that?

Somebody's got to watch that.

The Hot Ones is the really cool.

You're just all on your own here.

This is the cool.

It's Hot Wings, not Hot Ones.

I don't know where I am right now.

And I don't know who you are.

And I'm having a stroke.

I smell toast.

What? Yeah.

Yeah, Celebrity.

Oh, it's like, oh, I put the wings.

Wings, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, we're here.

So this is a YouTube show it has,

I don't know, about 10 quadrillion views on it.

And it's a guy named Sean who feeds Celebrity guests

increasingly Hot Wings while asking them

really well-worded and intelligent questions

while they fucking melt down.

And we're doing it today.

What if we did it with Hot Wings?

Instead, that would be.

And instead of Hot Wings, it's just fire

because these shit box cars are actually on fire.

That's true.

That's, yeah.

But what he does at the end of every episode,

he's like, there's a camera there,

there's a camera there, there's a camera there.

Talk directly to the camera and introduce,

tell people what you have going on.

So that celebrities can plug whatever bullshit

that they're working on.

So we can do the same way.

There's a camera there, there there,

your name is Dustbin and you're going to,

what are I doing?

It says yes.

Okay, where it's, I don't know which one.

You guys talk to him, he's an easy person to talk to.

He'll be nice to you.

No, I know, I won't.

I'm Dustin Hallanan.

Are you just doing that?

Wow, we're just, it's like we're in an intro.

That's what we do.

We just, wow, that was weird.

You want me to give you an example?

An example.

Yeah, an example.

Okay, go for it.

I'm John Brito and I am with Dustin,

part of driveway finds.

We have had a social media for since,

as you mentioned for mentioned 2018,

where we just do silly, stupid stuff.

Like showing up to this podcast.

Yeah, with an American car too,

which is a bold move, honestly.

True, we don't usually allow American cars in this.

Somehow it got in here.

The biggest one.

I didn't think it would fit when we pulled up.

I was like, that door is not meant for American cars.

I had a Lamborghini LMO 02 in here,

which is decidedly not American, but it's wider.

That doesn't sound, no.

I think it's wider.

It's so wide, it barely.

It certainly consumed the entire doorway.

I feel like a lot of supercars are wider then.

The Chazetta Morota V16T was.

Transversely mounted V16s.

Sounded that from-

With cooling fans on both sides, hydro, like viscous.

Anyway, you please, Mr. Brito, please continue.

Yeah, that's basically it.

We have a social media,

and now we have a show on Hagrid we're really excited about.

And I've known, I'm a shop teacher,

so I met Dustin.

He was in my very first class I ever taught.

First class, first year.

And then we sort of became friends after he graduated.

And now we own like a million cars together.

And he's on my insurance.

We both have the same problem.

We're both addicted to cars, obviously.

Just like, I'm sure some of your listeners

are just like, they have to be.

No, I don't know what you're doing.

I would never.

I feel like you guys are just going to peddle us

new things to get addicted to.

You guys only own like one or two cars, right?

No, no, no, no, no.

I've heard about you two.

First of all, there's a Mercedes there.

So you should be whoever is responsible

for the acquisition.

I am the, I'm the Euro fleet.

I'm the head of the Euro fleet operations.

He's head of the numbers matching meticulous.

Like Camaro's and like, yeah.

So that's my Camaro anal department is yours.

I'll take that title.

Well, then we don't want that title.

Camaro anal or just anal Camaro.

That's the next shirt.

There you go.

Camaro anal department.

Please not.

Or maybe that's on brand for you.

Okay.

I'm okay with any.

So you brought a Mercedes.

Yes, I brought a little W110.

Because you knew Derek was going to like you

and be friends with you.

100%, I think it was,

you might have been attached to the emails

like bring your Mercedes.

I was like, dammit, I have to.

It's not.

I think I actually wrote that.

Oh, but yeah, I do have a love for Mercedes.

I've owned a bunch of old ones.

And then my dad, you know, growing up,

my dad and my brothers are all BMW master techs.

My dad was a shop foreman locally to shop.

Owns his own independent shop now to this day.

So I had nothing but BMWs when I was a kid growing up.

And then my first job was at a BMW dealership, you know,

and you learned how miserable they are.

How to beat this shit out of people's cars.

But I mean, on test drives.

I can remember signing an E39 M5 off of the trailer

and then taking it first, first drive

and then thinking to myself,

I will never buy a car unless I'm there

to sign it off myself.

That's what I just did.

I have forever self-soiled this car.

If anybody recognizes him,

the car was destroyed by him, I'm so sorry.

It was blue, it was in Oregon, come find me, honestly.

Listen, I valet parked in college.

There is no, I mean, we literally,

we had two best friends, one had a Corvette automatic

and the other one had a, what the hell was it?

This Seville North Star.

And we would reverse them with the Cadillac and reverse

because if we did it in drive,

the front-wheel drive Cadillac would create

too much tire smoke and so we would do it in reverse.

We drag race these cars every week.

Like this is, there's a reason you never, ever valet

your car and I'm that reason.

100%.

The things I witnessed at the dealer

that were not just me, but,

and I only worked there for almost, not even two years.

Bad things happen in car dealerships, honestly.

The management was in on it.

I mean, like everything from the top down,

anytime a car got injured, it was like,

what can we do to cover it up immediately?

100%.

You know, it was like, I crashed a brand new 330,

like I completely missed and crashed right into the wall.

And I was just like.

I missed the door.

And my boss comes out and he's like,

holy shit, they're here to pick it up.

And he comes running up to the show and he's like,

that wasn't your car.

It's a totally different car.

Your car will be here in two days.

And then we had the guy that comes out and paints in the car

and gets dirt and dust in the paint.

So the funny part about that is 30 years later,

someone's like pre-inspection,

like looking at that car and going,

it's had some accident.

No, this car is all the regional paint.

Yeah.

And they're like, I've owned this car since new.

It's never had any paint work.

The first hour that car exists in someone's possession.

Cause that was when I would sign all the cars in

and I'd park them all and then I'd be a weekend,

sometimes when the truck show up, nobody's around.

And be like, okay, let's hear what, you know,

I read this article and said it was a pretty fun car.

So let's go and put it to a test.

Some dickbag in car and driver says it does great burnouts.

Let me verify this.

I want to find out.

Great.

That was that.

And then I did a lot of other, not a lot of other things,

but then I'm been a teacher for 12 years and yeah.

And I came along and decided to get him more

into American cars.

I always wanted easy muscle, easy cheap power.

Well, I don't know.

It's like just the American car stuff for us

is at least a little bit more accessible,

the big blocks everywhere, the small blocks are everywhere.

And it's like stuff like we brought this Impala today,

one owner car, 72,000 miles as of this morning

as I was driving it to work as all the paperwork,

original paint, original interior.

Derek was probably masturbating on the fact

that it's original plates.

Yes, black plates.

I mean, just any old car that's undisturbed

like that I think is like just a magical experience

because the percentage of them that survive

that are like that is so, so infinitesimally small.

And it's like, that's the stuff that, you know,

I professionally purvey cars for people

and they're looking for guidance sometimes.

And I think one of the important things is,

is this repeatable?

And, you know, you could find another restored one easily,

right?

Lots of people around restoring cars,

but to find one that sort of has paperwork,

there's no way to recreate that stuff.

Same like there's no way to put the California plates

back on a car after they've come off

that have been on the car for 40 years.

And so like, to me, that thing is just absolutely

incredible piece of time warpage,

especially with all the like documentation

and the little like registration card holder

on the steering column and all that shit.

It's just-

Every registration.

Even the temp is in there too.

I even have the guys, so he's going through

the glove box with me and he has like his old sunglasses

from the 60s and all this like little match book

from like a restaurant that was like the place

back in the day, right?

He grabs the match book and he goes,

you guys know that that's the place.

That was the place back in the 1970s.

Totally, right?

And so that car is like such a time capsule

and he has his driver's license test in there.

And this guy's like 80 something years old.

And I'm like, hey.

He's 84.

I'm like, hey, look, is it cool if I keep this

with the car?

And he's like, oh yeah, totally.

So that's in there.

Like we wanted to try to keep as much as we could

with the car, like the dealership's key chain

is in the glove box.

He had a sticker stack for you license plate people,

obviously.

The sticker stack.

He took the sticker stack off the license plate,

put it in one of the registration

on below and they cast the stack going.

So it didn't fall off.

He kept everything.

That's amazing.

I mean, yeah.

We're all guilty.

I think we're guilty here.

No, I keep my reg cards and I throw out the insurance cards.

That's fair.

I just thought like this.

It's like whatever.

But you would have no qualms

about removing original license plates from a car.

There's literally a guy with a 500E

that I will not talk to anymore

because he took the original plates off of it.

That's how fucking petty he is.

I love that.

I have other people.

I'm on his side.

Plates are.

You need to understand something.

I am from a state where plates don't do this.

Right?

Where every time a car is full.

So you should appreciate it even more.

I do appreciate it.

Now you're in a state that has it.

Yeah, but I have to make fun of him about it.

It's my job.

I'm literally paid to be.

Even if you appreciate it.

Yeah, I get it.

Friends, we are paid.

We are coworkers.

I'm not paid, but I make fun of him.

Okay, well, let's see.

We argue like a lot.

That's the point.

We don't actually argue that much, but I do poke.

I mean, I've listened to your podcast.

We just poke.

I poke.

Listen, I also agree, but I also think that

for every one of my cars is not native California

other than Beatrice, who's been totaled

and thrown down six flights this year.

So Beatrice is at my ship box, E30,

that's currently outside.

That's beautiful.

And I think that came on some like nine plate

or eight plates or something.

So I don't have any car with original plate.

And so if I don't have a car

that's got original California plates,

I will put a historical vehicle plate on it.

And the reason why is I want to paint a picture,

especially this is earlier when my cars weren't 40 years old

when they were 25 years old.

I want to paint a picture to other drivers on the road

that this is not some shit box

that your insurance company is gonna give me.

And I know I have this shirt on that says JasonSentMe.com.

And you should go to JasonSentMe.com

and get an insurance quote on Haggerty agreed value policy.

And this is why I was so injured

and I have such PTSD about insurance claims on cars

that were worth this much to me,

but this much on the market.

And I thought, how can I never go through the process

that I went through trying to prove a car's value?

And it was just all appearances.

You're building a story.

So the car is registered with classic car insurance on it.

And it's got meaning Haggerty

and it's got historical vehicle plates on it

or classic car or whatever up plates on it.

And it goes to shows and wins trophies

and it does this and this and the other thing.

It's how I saved my Sharoko,

which is my first born 28 year relationship

from being totaled and it's how I've saved other cars.

And so I do that, but I do understand

I would never change the plate on it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Like I have a 69 Camaro I restored with my dad

and it was sold new in Spokane, Washington.

Right.

And so we're bringing it in and I'm like,

I don't want to put your manufacturer black plates on it

because it doesn't line up with the story.

So I put blue and yellow personalized plates on it

because there's a place on

you can get them made somewhere.

In Mexico.

I loved watching you.

I loved watching you see this.

I'll think about that for a second.

Never mind.

The shit that exists a place where it's possible to do this.

Showed up one day.

Trust me.

We've told way greater worst stories on this, on this podcast.

No one plays on eBay in Germany.

They make license plates.

It's it's real plate number,

but I just got it made in a blue and yellow plate

because obviously that's when they first came out

with personalized plates.

So it just kind of fits a narrative for me that works

because I didn't want to put like X, Y or Z plates on it

because it wasn't sold here in 69.

It doesn't make sense.

X, Y or Z meaning black plates that correspond

to the late sixties.

Okay. I have Y plates on.

I have a 67 Camaro, which should have

that should be a little earlier.

But I have Y plates because it came in.

It was sold new at Herbalmen in Reno.

So it came into almost the United States.

It came into California in 69.

So it's had those plates since worn them ever since.

Yeah. You keep those conditions.

It's not Impala nice, but it's original like that.

Yeah.

But a big block force being a little bit more

of an exciting athletic car than the couch.

Yeah. So what this is a 64 Impala 327 automatic

that is very comfy.

Very. It's like driving a lazy boy.

It's like that.

And it's three across in the front

and three across in the back.

Yeah. You only get seatbelts in the front,

seatbelts in the back.

They're like good luck.

And pillarless.

They're just literally like kids in the back.

Fuck them kids.

No seatbelts for you.

The back seat will keep,

the front seat will keep them in place.

They're all here and with all descendants

of people who survived those cars.

I drove my kids.

I just, there's another thing is when you're driving

and with your kid, you drive a little more careful, you know?

You never know where that ultimate is coming from.

Yeah. That's how ultimate comes at it.

No, I know.

And crispy paint's going to get you.

Falls straight out of the sky.

Yeah. It is a very comfortable.

And listening to Gary talk about it, it was just like,

why wouldn't you buy the biggest, most comfortable car?

He just had that mentality and like.

And that's the best part is like hearing,

he knows every little scratch, every little,

there's a little dent here or every little story.

Like he's like, oh, I remember when I bought it,

my dad and I went to the gas station.

He put my first tank of gas in it.

That part really got me.

It's just all that stuff.

And then it was in a barn three weeks ago.

This is its longest drive for both of these cars here.

The engine was seized three weeks ago.

Yes. I bought acetone.

Oh yeah. Like with a big.

Unceased.

So I took, and it looks really good on camera

because it looked like I was a man outside.

Like a jack handle.

Oh, so hold on.

The resurrection and this whole thing is on the show.

Oh yeah.

Okay. I didn't give a shit about the show before,

but now suddenly I want to watch.

They gave you the pilot episode, I believe,

but you're going to like this episode.

But our best episode is the impolite.

100%. Yeah.

Make sure you throw in it so far because, you know,

you're going to set the bar so far.

It's just going to get better from here.

It is.

Well, we have a bar sleeve,

so you're going to be even more impressed.

Yes.

We have things up our sleeves, exactly.

You don't have sleeves.

They're up here.

They're Mercedes. I'll just say that.

You're going to get him.

Oh, wait.

Wrong direction. You've got a direction.

Also an E30 I just bought, so.

I'm in. Okay.

Fine. There it is.

I did this month's research and I bought one each.

But it was, it's an ETA, isn't it?

I think I saw this.

I saw this.

You know what happens if you rev at us too high?

They blow them and you can put a real motor in.

So let's go.

We're going to put a real engine in it.

Yeah.

But I'll be, I'll, I will ask for your guidance.

Don't.

Why ruin such a good thing?

Because you have a blank slate.

The audience can grow to love you.

Why would you fuck it up?

I didn't finish.

Okay.

I will ask for your guidance

and I will ignore the engine part of it.

Okay.

We want you to drive.

Oh, it's getting, that means it's getting a.

It's getting a turn on us.

She doesn't know.

He's just guessing.

I have no idea.

I'm getting a turbo.

Huge turbo.

And it's an American engine.

I mean, why turbo LS?

I have driven one.

Oh, no.

Turbo LS.

No.

Turbo M20 V 27.

What's an LS?

We don't even know that.

No, yeah.

It's modern for you guys.

If you put a turbo on it,

just do what the Mosulman did on M103 Mercedes.

It's two turbos that are approximately this big.

They run seven pounds of boost.

You don't even know they're there.

And it's amazing.

What you're going to do.

None.

This is a friend of ours has, this is a diesel.

On an Eda?

Who made this guy.

No, it's a Mercedes 300.

It's not a Mercedes 300, it's a 300 E.

And there was a Dutch company named Mosulman.

And they did their,

the smallest turbos I've ever seen.

Turbines are tiny, tiny, tiny.

And I think it runs 7.8 pounds of boost

or something like that.

It just never lagged.

It never lagged in the end of their life.

I mean, two tiny little turbos,

each being fed by one and a half liters

and three cylinders.

Genuinely, less than a second to full boost at 1200 RPM.

So you just mad it and it's done.

It was, it's the best turbocharged vehicle

I've ever driven in terms of response.

I can't, I just can't.

I just, every E30 I get ends up being an Eda.

It's fine.

Eda's are great.

It was my first car.

That's why they make a Cherry Pickers.

Why are you giggling?

Eda's are great.

You like 5,000 RPM.

I like diesels.

Do you like diesels?

But you can, you can chip them.

How high does your Jaguar?

Hold on, I'm going to be a bitch right now.

How high does your Jaguar rev?

5,000 RPM.

Do you like your Jaguar?

Yeah.

Okay, good shut up.

Apparently the crank on a Cummins brakes at 4200.

But if you could put a head on it that would rev it to,

you know, a real number of RPM.

All the better.

Yeah.

And you can, you can, it's easier to add a bottom end.

So my E30 wagon has a super at a bottom end.

And so now it's a 2.7 liter that still revs to 6,500.

80 only.

Okay.

Cause this is a 87.

So my E28 has a super at a motor than Adam.

Look about that thing.

I could take that engine out.

And you can.

Yeah.

But then you got to buy it.

You got to find a 325i.

So you need an i engine management.

That I hope just retires.

Just stick to our plan.

And I can be like building a fucking engine.

Damn.

Okay.

If you can demand him to build me a one too.

He's never done, yeah.

No, I mean, he's been through BMW level one,

rebuild all that.

I actually watched him rewire like a 750.

The response is it, but it was under warranty.

And this is like in the nineties.

And my dad's like, you know, coming home.

Hey, what'd you do?

I'm rewiring the same thing.

Was he crying?

All week.

No, it was like the only reason it's notable.

The only reason I remember it is it was like, you know,

you asked your dad, what'd you do?

It's the same thing for the past week and a half, dude.

Like, what do you think I'm doing?

It's the same exact.

Still rewiring 750.

Legend has it.

He's still doing it now.

That's what happens when Angie asked me

what I'm doing at work.

Cause I work on, so I'm like re still wiring,

still wiring, still.

He's very good at wiring.

And he's very good at metal work.

We're good at all that stuff.

Great.

So if you damage your service wagon or something,

you can just make firewalls floor.

He's that kind of metal working

where he'll take like a sheet of metal.

I can do metal work.

I buy the patch and I weld it in.

He's like, here's a flat sheet and I'll just.

Need an English wheel?

Yeah.

Cool.

Like, yeah.

I'm very jealous of that.

I want to do this.

I'm trying to kind of leave that.

We want to do silly stuff and like cars on fire.

Exactly.

That's more fun.

Like you did a week ago.

For some people.

Yeah.

Our 56 Chevy.

On purpose.

It was cool.

I was good with it.

Cause it was filmed.

As long as it's filmed.

We're good with everything, right?

So burnout competition.

We, you know, I'm on the rev limiter for like,

I don't know, 45 seconds at this point.

Oh, damn it.

I thought you were saying 45 minutes.

That would have been.

I've been there for like a couple of minutes

and when it gets up to like two, 30 tires only last long.

That's after both tires have popped, right?

So yeah, it catches on fire.

I'm in the middle of tossing the steering wheel

to the guy that's holding the camera.

He was trying to make it look really cool.

There's a guy filming him.

He's holding the steering wheel.

It was like, oh.

But I didn't want it to fall.

Cause it was like a 60s.

I'm doing the burnout.

I'm like, I don't want this to like hit the ground.

So I'm like, I got to do a good throw and he's like,

and I'm just foot to the floor rev limiter.

Just like, and he's like, I'm like fire.

He's like, yeah.

And then after I put the car out,

that he was in on fire with, he's like, you know,

wasn't that bad?

I was like, it wasn't that bad.

I'm fine.

Here I am.

I want to see what was on fire.

Okay. They're really selling this show.

What was on fire?

It was this back seat was on fire.

Cause that's pretty close.

No, okay.

There's no floor in it.

So what happens is, is the tire,

so you have the exhaust just pointing right at the tire.

So any little blip in the engine with that hot tire

on a super hot day.

It's also a methanol inject.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

It's 671.

It's five feet wheel horsepower.

Okay.

Yeah. So it's not, it's not a bitch car.

It's not at all.

So we do the burnout.

A bitch car.

That was a personal dig.

Wait, who?

I have, I have two Volkswagen convertibles.

One is the bitch basket and one is the future VR bitch car.

And so I, well, it's kind of, it's kind of,

it's a, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Hold on. I did not.

I did. No.

The, the, the collective world has come up with the Mark one

cabriolets are bitch baskets and other people call Mark three

cabriolets bitch baskets, but I can't because I can't have two

bitch baskets. Mark one's a little square.

Mark one's a little square.

Mark one's a little square one.

No, but I did actually, well it could be,

but the Mark three is about to get a VR six swap.

And once it has a VR six in it,

I recall a license plate that I saw in the nineties

where somebody was the first person I ever saw to swap one.

And his license plate was VR bitch car.

And I'm like, that's fucking awesome.

So that'll be the VR bitch car.

It'll be a bad bitch.

That's true. That actually might be good too.

I mean, that's, that's already taken.

That's got a badge bitch or vat vat vat vat vat Volkswagen

Audi group badge bitch.

I signed a yearbook one time for a TA.

This is a super weird, just weird, just going,

but I signed it.

Everyone needs to call you a bitch,

but it just turns out you were just a bad bitch.

And you're awesome.

You know, that's like kind of motivation.

That's what I'm turning out.

Insulting the teacher, right?

Insulting the motivation.

So maybe that's, that's the, that's the story for your car.

It'll, it was just a bitch before now.

It's a bad bitch.

A bad bitch, basket.

I interrupted what your car is on fire

because you sprayed methanol out the door.

Methanol is flying out.

I'm having a great time.

He's starting to put it out.

I just get out like.

So what was actually the tire?

The tire itself was on fire.

Methanol.

I don't think it was the methanol.

Because like,

No, I don't think it was the methanol.

Because you talked about it.

No, because like,

We can't drive it.

The methanol lines melted.

So, right.

This was day one burnout.

We had to burn out the next day.

And I was like,

Fuck it.

I'm just going to do another burnout, right?

But I kept it at a certain RPM.

Cause the methanol turns on at a certain TPS

and a certain amount of boost.

So I just kept it right under it.

The methanol turned on a couple of times.

We didn't catch on fire a second time.

Pop both tires and we're good.

Like I got to have a redemption story.

I can't just catch it on fire.

It was, it was amazing.

Burnouts are always.

I feared for your life.

Also your wife was there.

My children.

Uncle Dust.

You put your children in that fucking car.

No, no, no.

They weren't, well.

You know, you clearly don't care about your children.

I'm raising very aggressive children.

That's what I'm saying.

I have to be nice to Derek

because he gets upset when I look at him.

He's so innocent.

When I mean someone, if they're not mean to me,

I'm almost offended.

That's true.

It's that whatever child abuse I have,

that's what it has become.

So, but no, yeah.

My kids are there watching his wife,

his parents, all that stuff.

And the next time I'll just be like,

do you want me to put the fire on?

It's the first time it's happened.

It was fine.

To this day, never died in a fire

to use your terminology.

No fire suit, nothing.

People came up to me like.

It's just a tire.

They don't burn that fast.

But no.

Okay.

That's so it's automatically self-redeeming.

At the beginning of the story,

that is what we talked about.

That's all that matters.

It's self-redeeming.

First of all, burnouts are self-redeeming.

We've also caught cars on fire.

I don't know about all burnouts.

When they,

When it's clutch smoke by the stake,

it's not self-redeeming.

When it's a good burnout, it's redeeming.

I have done one wheel peel burnouts

that are self-redeeming because if you get to the point

where no one can see you,

you can escape without shame.

I'm good with the aggressive one wheel peel,

but the ones that are like,

and nothing ever happens.

No, I mean,

enough tire smoke to obscure your getaway.

That's fine.

Or when a car that shouldn't

and can't really do a burnout decides to give you one,

like we had at the dealership,

a little diesel Mercedes came in

and it would barely do anything.

And we got it to do a burnout.

We were like, yes.

Pee on the tires.

We got one.

It was like,

like a little...

It's just like an E-Golf.

Yeah, we were just like, yeah.

E-Golf did reverse burnout.

Yeah, yeah.

But that's what I'm saying.

It's an achievement.

Yeah, it's not an impressive burnout,

but it's an achievement.

Yeah, wet ground,

just throw it in drive

while going full speed in reverse.

I think it does 18 miles an hour

and 30 kilometers an hour in reverse.

Just right in.

And it's very silent.

It's both, right?

It's both.

As you're saying, you know,

even if it's one wheel peel smoke out,

so no one can see it, right?

But what happens when the smoke dissipates

and there's only one track on the ground?

No, you're the fuck out of there.

What if they know you though?

It doesn't matter.

You've, like those musicians, right?

They do the David Copperfield poof of smoke

and then they're gone.

That's true.

Do you know where they went?

Do you care?

They're gone.

They left.

It doesn't matter.

Redemption.

People were posting videos of the car show

that was a good measure away from where we're at.

Oh, this was the best part.

It looked, they were like trying to find their cars.

Because it was,

and they're of course probably angry

because it's a good guy show.

It was the side of car culture where like, you know,

people are like, oh gosh, a leaf.

And there's just, now there's just tire smoke,

like taking over the whole car show.

And tire smoke is steam.

So, you know, it's just getting stuck to stuff.

It really messes you up.

It really does.

It's gross.

Vaporized tire.

Yeah.

I know that I appear as a perfectly well behaved,

reasonable adult.

Never done a burnout in your life.

Oh no, not at all.

We never talked about the Eagle thing.

No, that was on Instagram.

Funny and I kid you not,

the Volkswagen dealer asked me for the full 1080p resolution

version of the compilation of burnouts

and played it in the showroom

and sold a bunch of e-golfs that way.

Because people were like, this is not fun.

It's electric.

And they're like, it's faster to 30 than a fucking GTI.

Like watch this.

It's on the screen.

We should get a dealership of the year.

No shit.

That's the kind of things that should be.

Burnouts out cars.

As long as it's.

Burnouts out cars.

Professional driver, closed course.

Maybe in Mexico.

It actually was at Sonoma Raceway.

Might be the safest thing.

Cause you're not getting any traction.

So therefore we're not going fast.

So this, this, okay.

So I think we've talked about this before.

When I was younger and less response,

equally as irresponsible.

I used to go to a show,

a Volkswagen show called WaterFest

because water of cold and, you know, whatever.

It was a huge, huge VW show.

Might have gotten arrested there.

Is there a pair of Fests for Porsches?

It's called.

And old Volkswagen's.

Luftgekühlt.

Oh wow, it is.

It means airbold.

That's awesome.

And I love that you don't know that

because that means he's not a Porsche dick like you are.

Oh, hold on.

We discussed this this morning.

Portia Weenie.

It's the correct term.

He identifies as a Porsche.

So are we not allowed to like Porsches here?

We can like them.

We just can't own them.

But we can't own them.

No.

If you own one,

you immediately become a Porsche Weenie.

That's not really a bad problem.

Is there a cut off here?

It depends on the portion.

Older is a 70s one.

Equal opportunity asshole.

I'm going to be in front of you.

But anyway, I'm at WaterFest

and this is not the year that I got arrested there.

It was another year.

We can't just brush over that.

I was very responsible.

I'm arrested at August.

I love how you just snuck that ring.

I was arrested in 1998 at WaterFest in New York

because the light turned green

and the car next to me floored it and I floored it.

And it was a 55 zone.

And I backed off at the top of second, which is 59.

And we both got thrown in jail.

Cars.

Can we pull up the mugshot?

Is this for history?

I don't have a mugshot actually.

I bet you wish you had it though, right?

I wish I had it.

The guy.

I think it's arrested wish they had that.

The guy in the other car was a cop and he got arrested too.

The cop forged my signature on a confession letter.

The whole thing was a disaster.

And with Pleasantville, New York,

you can go fuck yourself 25, 30 years later.

Anyway, the next year, WaterFest moved

because it always had to go somewhere else.

Because once after.

Because once everyone found out about what we're really going to do.

And so there was always been like three hotels.

There was the number one, two and three hotel.

Number one was the official one.

And that was where Skid Row happened.

And Skid Row, somebody would choose the back of the hotel

as the one spot where we just.

I was going to say not needles and stuff Skid Row, but like.

Burnouts.

Yes.

And the best part about.

Not here to clarify.

Yes, yes, yes.

The best part about front wheel drive cars

is they don't go anywhere.

So the trick is you'd pull up.

So you get waiting to spot it.

You break it.

You dump the clutch in first as soon as you get to the hangout

until the tires get nice and hot

that you're like a quarter throttle,

slam shift in a second, full throttle again and continue.

And the VRs did the most amazing burnouts.

But everyone would hold the car back

because otherwise it would creep forward slowly.

There's like 20 dudes just pulling on it.

Six, seven.

I was going to say there's small cars.

And they're in front of the car.

I mean, there are guys in the front, guys in the back,

guys inside.

I never would go in the front of the car.

And I wouldn't want to be in the path of an exploding tire.

But I have so, I have probably in megabytes

because the videos were 320 by 240 resolution.

But I have a shit ton of like hold back burnout videos.

I'm released.

We'll throw one in this thing.

The archives.

But yeah, like maybe I'll do either a VR

or Mark one, Shirako, whatever.

But that was awesome because you'd watch the car

and the guys would start to sway it back and forth

and whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.

And that year, we got away with it ish.

The next year we went back to the same hotel

and the riot police showed up

because the people at the front desk

thought we were being like smoked bombed.

It was crazy, but you could not see the hotel.

That is how you do a fucking burnout.

You have so many of them going on

that you can't even see the hotel.

So I know I appear like a well-behaved,

grown-up adult responsible person.

Check your mouth, Eric.

But this is who I really am.

And so Bravo.

I did not see that coming.

Instant redemption.

I did not see that coming.

Really.

I drove you here in my Vangina.

You know what you're right.

Pulling 1.2G of pirates per squealing

and spinning and spinning.

Look at those cameras.

And just one, just one.

Look at that camera and tell them how my Vangina handles.

It handles amazing.

Very amazing.

I was reluctant to get inside of the Vangina,

but once I was inside of it, I really started to love it.

It was the best handling Vangina I've ever been in.

It's the only one I've ever been in,

but it's the best handling.

I would've been in the Ben Rented one.

But it wasn't called a van.

His is called Vangina.

No, my van's name is Jaina.

Yeah.

She says it right on her plate.

Anyway.

So this show is you guys going and stealing

beautiful old cars from poor men who are dying and have no...

It's like...

At least they're alive.

Third episode, we gave it back to the guy.

Yes.

Because he was so shitty that you...

No, no, no.

This is the second episode.

I have a neighbor that bought a 68 Firebird.

He bought it in...

1968.

It had like 4,000 miles on it or something.

It was a trade-in.

He's basically the original owner.

And I was walking through the vineyard behind my house

one day and I was just like,

is that a freaking Camaro?

And then I was like, oh, it's a Firebird.

And I walked over there and I, you know, it's my neighbor.

And it's this picture perfect farmer guy.

A little hat, everything.

He's a nice guy too.

He's a drink, you're close.

Nice guy.

Total vineyard farmer.

And I go, what's up with that?

I was like, oh, you know, I haven't driven it for a long time.

And then, you know, I forget what happened.

The last registration tag is 1984.

So we put that in a long time.

And we thought, why don't we rescue it for this guy?

It's been since 84.

It's been sitting.

Let's get some context too.

He took his wife for their first date in it.

Oh, wow.

And what's your concept?

The look of it.

It is buried in the grounds.

You know, right?

40 years.

All tires flat.

It has white interior that's really white anymore, right?

It cleaned up, all right.

After I spent like one or two in the morning

for nights consecutive in a row,

the engine seized, which seems to be a common theme with us.

Of course, we have that all on the press.

Have you ever bought a car that didn't have a seized engine?

Yes.

Not on any Hagerty episodes so far.

So it didn't have a seized engine because it didn't have one.

Yeah, okay.

So that works.

But no, so we got it.

Wait, are we all seized engines on Hagerty?

All three episodes we filmed?

Dreadway finds all seized all the time.

No, the truck, it's not the truck.

No, remember?

Because it was, I un-seized it.

It sat.

Can we call this epileptic?

Sorry.

Dreadway finds, because they're all seized.

All seized all the time.

All seized to Dreadway finds.

So even the new engine we bought for the Pontiac,

which came from a like kind of a...

Oh yes, that one was also seized.

I remember now.

That one was seized too.

I called him because I got to be bitchy to him.

I was like, hey, did you happen to turn this over?

No, it was really busy.

Well, it seized.

This is why I didn't turn it over, okay?

It was buried in the back of a storage container

in a very sketchy property, okay?

And I went and picked it up.

He drove all the way to Modesto,

which is like, oh no.

For those of you who don't know.

For those of you who don't know, Modesto.

That's where I bought the free beetle from.

Modesto is mostly waterfalls, rolling hills.

It's beautiful there.

It's gorgeous.

It's a little Methlehem.

Actually, it's big Methlehem.

We're joking.

If you think poor audience,

you don't want them to like start looking at real estate here.

Can you imagine the guy who books up light to Modesto?

I'm going to Modesto.

It's the Carpaccio podcast setting for Modesto.

They're, you know.

You guys are going to be sponsored

by the Tourism of Modesto.

My other half is in Modesto right now.

Oh, wow.

So I can't wait to have this conversation.

Whoops.

Hopefully they're strapped.

There are good things in Modesto.

Good, I mean, really good Mexican food.

Really good swap meats.

Swap meats.

A lot of good swap meats.

Seized motors.

Free beetles.

Yeah.

There we go.

So we've gotten something from Modesto.

But he went and got it.

And so for this whole episode we did for Ernie is,

we brought the Carpaccio live.

We did all the horrible stuff you have to do to a car

that's sat forever.

And we gave it back to him.

Was it rusty?

He is.

Mm-hmm.

Metal work.

See, there is no metal work involved in this scenario.

My foot went through the floor when I was cleaning it.

This car has been in multiple floods.

The frame rails were packed full of mud.

The transmission.

So it just had a Muncie four speed in it.

Luckily it wasn't an automatic.

The drain plug was stuck.

We, he's like, oh, let's just leave it.

Let's just leave it.

I'm like, no, no.

We've got to pull it.

It was probably, I'm thinking, as many open.

It's got something in it.

At least like a.

But for the drain plug on top,

or the vent on top.

The vent must have just drawn through the whole river.

So we welded a nut on the, on the fill plug.

Got it out.

Because it doesn't have a drain plug.

The Muncie's don't have a drain plug.

Of course it was really stupid.

And literally maybe like what?

Half a gallon of water came out of it.

And it clear water.

We haven't posted that real yet.

Haven't posted that real yet.

No, that's all right.

We save our real.

Actually I have posted that real.

Anyways.

Oh, it got a million.

That gives you the context of the car.

Very rusty, kind of gross,

but Ernie's story was so cool.

We have to get it going for him.

It's like some of these people are so busy.

They're overwhelmed.

I just want to know something.

So it's a Flintstones car.

It's not that bad.

You can drive it.

I know what's in my neighbor's driveways.

I want to know how big your property is

that all of a sudden I'm walking around

and is that a Camaro?

Yeah, he doesn't even know yet.

I mean, Jesus Christ.

My property is bordered by huge massive landowners.

Clearly.

So I can walk for a long time.

So there's a creek that runs probably four miles.

The creek that ruined the fire.

We are living wrong.

They have creek and cars.

There's vineyards everywhere.

I'll send you a picture where my house is flooding.

I'll be like, you're living a little bit more right

than you think.

Unlimited storage, kind of.

Outdoors.

That's amazing.

That's where all my cars are basically.

Yeah, I have a lot of storage.

I'm very lucky for that.

It's also an addiction.

I honestly.

It's honestly why we're friends with storage.

Is it just my storage?

Is that it?

I didn't want to say it on the podcast.

Look, I have a lift.

I've suddenly.

All kinds of new friends have arrived.

The only time in my life

I've ever been bothered.

It's a boat trailer and a lift.

Storage, lift, trailer.

Truck.

Yes, that's important.

A proper truck.

Truck and a trailer, forget it.

I can't do that.

I can't handle that many people.

I lend my truck and trailer to like students

when they find a cool car.

I'm like, okay.

That's, you know, if no one else is.

Look, I have to enable them.

As a drug dealer, you need to be a proper.

Otherwise this is going to go away.

Yeah, the car hobby will die.

If we don't promote this,

if we don't keep young, get people,

or there's a lot of gatekeeping as well.

I actually think, and this might be crazy.

I think there's less gatekeeping in Euro than there is.

Maybe a newer.

European cars.

Well, you guys, and just older stuff.

At least older American cars.

Older American cars, they're like, it is so rough.

Like you're backing up at a car show, right?

This is a great example.

There's a guy at a local car show.

He has a 64 Corvette.

No, sorry.

66 or seven, I think it's a big block car.

Yeah, what's a Corvette?

It's a car.

Big block car.

It's super original, super nice.

We don't really like just tell people like,

oh, I've restored this and I've done that.

We just stay under the radar, right?

Like I've restored tons of cars, painted shit, whatever.

Like really nice, nice cars.

And he's like, careful, don't back into my car.

It's like he throws his body when you're,

you'll drive up and you'll,

there's always a spot next to this asshole

because he's the asshole.

And so then there's one,

every Friday night there's a car show we go to.

It's near my house.

It's great.

My kids go.

So, but there's always the only spot left

is next to this Corvette.

So we always in the parking lot.

So, and he will throw his body like,

it looks like he's having a stroke

and probably having a stroke.

Between you and the Corvette.

He's seizing.

And you're bouncing on the seven feet between

and he's just like.

So here's the best part, right?

It's so annoying.

He's talking to me because I have my dad's Camaro there.

He's talking to me like,

oh, I got this original, this original.

Oh man, awesome, awesome.

So I'm backing up the Impala.

He's like, whoa, whoa, I'm like, hey,

this car is more original than your car.

Oh, I got right just.

Did he combust?

Cause he was like, NCRS this, NCRS.

Oh yeah.

Did he just, he exploded.

Yeah.

He just vaporized.

Like his engine.

Last Friday.

What an amazing moment.

You're my hero.

I mean, it's got more paperwork than his.

So I dug in.

Yeah.

You should have just handed him the paperwork.

Be like, why don't you review this while I'm parking.

Can I say, I do keep,

when my cars are parked in,

in touching zone of other cars,

I am.

Oh no.

As soon as anyone goes here.

Fair enough.

And I watch, and I will, I will go and assist.

I stop this way, left hand down.

Like you got to help them park a little bit.

And I have at car shows assisted some of the

Okton and 90 to Gerrion's park.

I'll be like, hey, do you need me to do this for you?

Cause it's going to be really tight when you get in there.

Oh yeah, no problem.

Hold the door for them.

Professional parker, closed course.

I tell them and then, you know,

I'll park her.

But see, you have that humor with them.

That's just,

But that guy's got nothing.

Okay.

Just straight up nothing.

He's in new balances, isn't he?

Oh.

100%.

Do you know why I gave my new balances away?

Did we talk about this in podcast?

We have new balances for reals, for reals.

I had for Instagram reels or for reals reels?

For Instagram reels.

Oh, for both.

They're strangely comfortable.

So I bought a set of new balances for Corvette episode.

And then I was like,

They're fucking amazingly comfortable.

See, that's what happened to me.

That's what happened to me.

So two things happened.

I wore them.

I just wore them.

All I did was wear them and I wore them to cars and coffee

and I got fucking heckled by everyone.

And then I posted one little tiny picture.

I think it was on Instagram where they're in the background

and you can't even see them unless you zoom in.

And I must have gotten 200 DMs from people like,

What the fuck?

You have new balances.

Are you wearing the khaki shorts with them or not?

No, I wasn't even in the picture.

They were just,

they were literally in the house in the corner.

And so I wound up giving it to a friend of ours,

Tom Hale, Tom Hale, who bought a Mustang.

And I'm like, okay, close enough.

Here you go.

Close enough.

He wore them to Radwood at Monterey Car Week or whatever.

So I now, I'm new balance list.

And I gotta tell you, my feet are the worst for it.

Yeah.

This episode of the Car Mudgeon show

is sponsored by New Balance.

So my thing is with New Balance,

why don't they lean into that car culture aspect?

With the Corvettes.

If anyone in marketing there was paying attention.

Exactly.

With the James Shorts.

George show.

Unstoppable.

Watch out.

They would have an island.

Yeah.

Seriously.

Multiple islands.

With a racetrack around.

But I will tell you, those are the most comfortable shoes

I've ever worn.

They are actually, I'd see really, really comfortable.

All right.

You're probably half my age.

So that makes me feel so much better.

Don't worry.

I've been there.

He's 28.

To go.

Close.

Nearest makes no difference.

We did it for a real, for tuning carburetors since.

For your new balance.

That was actually like our first,

probably at one of our first reels that got track.

We've had a lot of reels that have done really well.

And we've made a lot of high performing reels.

But that one got like,

That was like one of our first.

Like damn, just like, hey, let's work together.

You know, like that kind of stuff.

So all I gotta do is wear Jorts and New Balance and Holley.

I want to talk to Holley because I want retro brights on.

I have retro brights.

Yes.

On his suburb.

I have a 1970s suburban.

That's my, when you were talking about like,

nothing can carry nine passengers like my Jaina.

I was like, my bourbon.

My bourbon.

You said, you didn't put van in front of it.

Van.

No, Jaina's her name.

I mean, my van's name is Jaina.

It's okay.

No, my Jaina.

That's fine.

I have a nine passenger suburban.

Okay.

I only said six plus one.

So it's six seat belts.

Pulling two.

1970s suburban.

Five.

No, hold on.

I'm seven.

Yeah.

My, my Vangina holds seven fully grown men.

Mine will fit two more fully grown.

It has a roof rack.

Nine seat belts.

Yes.

Wow.

That's cool.

So it can't remember the deal.

It will not do what your Vangina just did.

They're around that corner.

We would have done it for a second.

And then we would have been like,

it's four-wheel drive, by the way.

There's a slide.

Yes.

It would have just, it's a, it's actually one of 541.

It's a rare, but.

541 what?

Four-wheel drive, three-quarter ton, 1970s suburban.

Got to get all the.

The production numbers.

Qualifiers in.

That were a built on a Tuesday.

This is the October.

In red.

Then we have a 69, three-quarter ton four-wheel drive.

It's one of three.

It's one of three of the 300 they ever made.

It was bought new by the California Highway Patrol.

It's the only one left.

So we have old pictures of it.

We have like a picture of the guy in the snow

standing next to it.

Like it's.

I have one of 1.9 million Mercedes or something.

The rest of rides are great.

I built that thing.

My daughter's six, six years ago.

So that's 50,000 miles on the build.

So it was a full frame off.

I did do an LS.

Did for a lady, a divorce transfer case.

So it's totally.

Shame in that I did do an LS.

I mean, I just don't want to be known as like the LS.

You just dropped your volume right at LS.

Yeah, you kind of did.

We're going to, we're going to EQ that back up to be like,

I put an LS and a for the ladies.

How are you going to use AI and I'll be like,

yeah.

The last thing is I drove that thing for 50,000 miles

with purple lights and we've driven it.

And I've driven it to Canada towing and back pitch black.

We've told every vehicle that we've bought pretty much

for the most part when I have a better tow vehicle,

but we like to suffer and look cool.

So we take the suburban and, you know,

I bought it from the original owners.

It's a cool story kind of, but terrible lights.

And we're just like, this is, we've had enough of this.

This is crazy.

And yeah, they gave us some, or they partnered with us.

And they have the yellow light too.

Cause we're not about the warm.

No, they have three different colors, right?

They sent us one of the other ones.

So I had one in one.

So my suburban was like this for a while.

He's like, hey.

But like most of the people driving them.

Yeah.

But they're so much brighter.

You need them for the mirror.

Yeah.

Are they standard?

No, that car needs H3s and headlights weirdly.

And it doesn't produce enough electricity

to illuminate an LED.

I've tried.

That's a wiring problem.

And you just met somebody who does wiring.

Yeah.

It could use some help.

I've never seen 100 Kelvin.

I mean, one of the most beautiful cars.

The light temperature on his mirror is 100 Kelvin.

It is basically red.

Well, it's an Italian car.

I don't understand it.

I mean, the thing fires 12 cylinders fine.

It's got enough power to do that,

but cannot illuminate a frigging headlight.

The fog lights are also fine.

The fog lights are fine too.

Like a tiny like.

It's got a bunch of resistance.

Yeah.

It's just probably a, you know,

a 700 gauge.

I highly recommend retrobrites.

They changed my night driving.

Tell Holly that we want to test them.

And the temperature,

color temperature is very important.

When I bought my Jag,

I went through a bunch of trouble

to replace all the cold LEDs that they put in.

Some heathen put in.

Oh, did you replace them with warm white LEDs?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Okay.

And you're going for more of a vintage like yellowish.

Yeah.

The correct color temperature.

What's cool is that we're into similar cars

into different cars,

but we're all that picky.

That's the best part is we're all that into the details.

You have to be a picky bastard

or you don't have any soul.

Yeah.

And it also differentiates on quality.

I mean, it's like the T3 lights on the Impala.

It's just that stuff that shows how undisturbed a car is.

It doesn't matter sort of where you're coming from,

but to sort of have that appreciation of like,

somebody gave a shit about this car.

When you saw that earlier, I was like,

because I had been digging through every little band at my house

and I found all three other ones and I was like,

I should have put them in, but I hadn't had a chance.

It's also fun to be that picky

and have all the details right to find the, you know,

Maro taillight socket that's supposed to be brown

because the repop ones are actually black.

So then you find the used ones and deep in them

just to have the brown ones.

Yeah.

Like, it's just the stupid.

But it differentiates an A minus car from an A plus car.

And if you have the like ability to deliver a car

at that level, it's just like, man,

this car is an absolute 10.

That's very gratifying.

Yeah.

And then if you drive that car every day

and actually use it, then you're a straight up hero.

Oh yeah.

But you drive good stuff.

But not like your dad's car.

Your dad's car is too nice to drive.

Isn't that such a thing?

That's a thing that I think car people don't understand.

Cars that are too nice to drive is.

I mean, like, okay, but I will say this.

I will say this.

He drives it every weekend.

He takes it out.

He does his little thing with my mom, whatever.

This is a 69 Camaro big block super sport.

He painstakingly restored over four years.

It's numbers matching.

It's L 78, which is the 375 horse 396

with solid lifter cam, all aluminum intake.

Like it's a cool, you know, it's a great car.

We didn't change anything on it.

Didn't add any options.

Didn't take any away.

It's a rally sport.

It has a factory eight track player on the console, wood

steering wheel, tack, pull down,

rear seat, deluxe interior.

Like it's a pretty, that was expensive car

for back in the day.

So that's just four years of my life right there.

But I mean, he still drives it, but like.

He drives it as contrast to like my Camaro.

Oh, we're just like, beat the shit out of it.

I have a car not quite as rare.

It's a big block, but it's not the 375 horse.

It's the 325 horse.

That's it.

That's the only difference option wise.

I have a lot of options.

A lot of options.

And we eat the cricket.

But we don't do stupid things to it.

No.

And I'm getting to the point where now I'm starting

to kind of fall down that rabbit hole.

Like I really can't.

It's raining.

She hate that?

It's fucked.

I hate that.

I do that today.

I drove my ship box here today because I'm like,

it's 90 degrees and I don't want any of my cars

to sit out in the sun.

Dash to crack.

Right.

And this is why I brought the cars.

Are the most enjoyable cars, just cars.

Ship boxes.

Yes, it's 100%.

Ships are always.

It's sad.

Even my ship box though, my Camaro with it,

it's too, it's not.

It's not.

It's a ritual paint.

There's a ship box and there's a beater.

It has scars.

It's not even a beater.

The only cars that I want from this point on,

and as I say this, I just, every car that I have,

that I buy is always like the perfect one, whatever,

is it needs to be a salvage title painted by Helen Keller

auto body and just ruined visually.

So I can make it mechanically perfect,

beat the shit out of it and not worry about it.

I can't, I can't stop myself though.

I see a perfect, like I bought the Mark III VR bitch car,

future VR bitch car, bad bitch car.

The bad bitch.

The red one.

And it was, I saw one picture of it and I had to buy it

because it's too perfect.

And now I have a 70,000 mile one owner perfect car.

What do I do with it?

Cut it apart.

We have the same amount of miles, same amount of miles.

Same amount of miles.

Now I don't want to drive it.

Okay.

What I am going to do is swap in, you know,

a VR6.

A heart transplant.

But it needs it.

I mean, if you keep the paint and the body nice, like.

Yeah, but now I'm going to drive it

and then it's going to get fucking backed into

and where somebody's going to look at it the wrong way

and it's going to get upset and have to go to therapist.

Not just to mention son.

Son.

Just son.

Yes.

And it's a convertible.

Physically sitting outside in the sun.

I'm getting distressed.

I know honestly, this is giving me anxiety.

Like I just can't.

It's going to crack from the sun.

The leather is going to shrink and shrill.

Do you bring towels with you?

Do you towel your dash?

I have the sunshades.

Sunshades.

I mean, I have sunshades, but I towel.

I like, I just, it just freaks me out.

Like I just.

Any car that sits outside gets tint.

And it's the only two that sit outside.

My 30 and my equal.

See, we can't.

You can't.

I'm older.

I mean, some of my factory tinted glasses.

You can make optically clear.

You could tint.

Oh really?

Yeah.

UV protective, but optically clear tint.

You can do that.

That helps.

Wow.

Game change.

You got to remember, we're living in like the stone ages.

Like we don't know.

Well, listen, when I see cars.

I don't tend to car.

Yes.

For anything.

You saw that BMW, right?

It is a genuine.

It looks fun.

But when I see it, it looks fun.

I actually thought I was like, yeah.

Yeah.

No, it's perfect.

It's a perfect E30.

BMW knows how to party.

Yes.

That one does not give a fuck.

Exactly.

So I can tint that and not think about it.

You're not going to 5%.

No, and I wouldn't even, I'm old.

I'm, yeah, I would do 50%.

5% is too hard.

Especially when people do the windshield,

you're like, what am I doing?

My students get tinted, it's black.

Yeah, I know.

It's just like, you can't even,

you're like, can you,

you're not a celebrity really?

And then I get like a medical exemption.

I'm like, for what?

For what?

You're 17.

Yeah.

What could possibly be wrong with this?

By the way, the medical exemption only gets you

through to like 50.

I think 50% tint.

I didn't even know that was a thing.

It's a thing.

And I tried it.

Because I once got, I got popped for tint

in my bitch basket, the four cylinder one

with the windows down and the top down.

It doesn't even happen.

But he did a full Rosco P Coltrane.

Fuck you too young to know this,

but Dukes of Hazard just right after me

because he saw somebody with a hoodie in an old car.

And I'm like, it's, I greeted him with,

See, there's not a range.

Because he couldn't even make it.

It was a hoodie and he was like,

I couldn't see your face.

And I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking freezing.

Like it's 50 degrees outside, I'm like convertible.

And I said, and by the way,

I don't want to put the top up

because it's too cold and it's going to crack and whatever.

I know I look like up up to no good.

I'm just hold.

Just a hoodie, man.

Motherfuckers like, do you have tint?

And I'm like, what does that have to do with anything?

The car does have quarter windows.

And the quarter windows can't roll down.

Like quarter vent windows.

And he's like, I see tint.

And I'm like irrelevant.

The windows are down.

And he's like, roll up your window.

And I should have said no,

but I'm a nice compliant person.

And I rolled up, put a thing on it and gave me a ticket.

So then I had a friend who works in CHP signing off

because fuck you, I'm not taking the tint off that car.

And I tinned to that car because he said,

I don't know what I'd say.

And we're full circle.

We drive around in a police vehicle, vehicle.

That's the seeds piece of bourbon.

And we've yet to be pulled over,

but we have a picture of him and me standing

next to the commissioner.

Cause we took it back to them.

And we actually took it around the skid pad

and he just got it sideways.

He was on the skid pad like whipping that thing.

He's like, we're breaking it.

This is with the water?

Yeah, this is with the water.

The skid pan, yeah.

So our suburban was one of, it's a, one of three,

like it was a recovery vehicle.

So if you went off in a ditch,

it was your best friend in the early seventies

who would come up as a big, huge Ramsey Winchester works.

But yeah, he was drifting it.

It was really fun.

That's cool.

So I'm hoping to use that someday.

Be like, here, see this picture of your boss's boss's boss.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know him have his phone number and he did this drift.

Fuck off.

Yeah, yeah.

I sad to say.

Also on tires from like the,

maybe like 1987.

No, I, they're 87.

I figured it out.

But the tubes are from 2023.

It's got tubes.

Okay.

It's got split rims.

I'm not sure that helps all that much,

but it, I can't hurt.

He always, that's always his answer.

I'm always like, you know,

we should really grasp to something when I'm going,

we've gone like,

Oh, we've driven that car.

I mean, that truck like to a ton of different places shows.

Didn't you say that car is tires from 1975?

We're going to change them.

Yes.

But we just recently acquired it.

That car is troubling condition wise too,

because I think I'm going to end up being the custodian of that car.

We currently own it together,

but I've decided to sell one of my many stupid trucks

and just keep nice original car with a good story.

And it's a, what do I do with it?

I mean, I'll just keep it nice.

You know, I'll drive my daughter.

What do you do with anything else?

I beat the shit out of all my stuff.

Do you not keep anything nice?

Like what?

I don't know.

I'm pretty me.

You know, I'm.

Yes, trust me.

It's already giving me anxiety with that car.

He's like me doing something,

shopping dust is in the windows down.

I'm like, well, I don't want dust in that interior.

Like I'm very much drive my stuff.

I couldn't tell by looking at the Mercedes.

It's not exactly.

Scard up from all the tires that have burst

and thrown molten rubber all down the side.

So what I, it's a V8 obviously.

I heard it pull in.

Okay.

So the full story on the LS is actually,

I was waiting for that.

We have maybe a friend in common.

He tuned your or helped you tune your E31 and chuckle scrub.

Oh yeah.

He let me, we didn't tune it.

Just throw in the tunnel.

Yeah.

He's so he had one of the last guy, not the original owner,

but he's not that old, man.

Chill, chill, like Scotty's cool, man.

So Scott owned that car.

Yeah.

He owned the car.

It was on, he sent it to me.

I did.

Yes.

And neighbor.

See, it's, it takes a village.

So he sends it to me at like, you know, the correct time,

which is like 11 45 at night.

Like you check this out.

Like, you know, before bed, you always do a good marketplace.

And so I just bought it.

I went there and and Scotty doesn't really know me.

200 D.

It's a 200, it's a 66 200 D.

I'd had an old 48 horsepower.

50 50.

Damn.

Big 50.

And someone had started to put an old 617 in it

and they were, this didn't have a tape measure.

Because I don't think it was, it was not a,

it was nowhere near ever going to run.

So, you know, I went, it was 1200 bucks.

Scotty was cool.

He's like, I don't know what are you going to do with it?

I'm like, I'm probably going to put like a stupid LS on it

and make it do burnouts.

And he's like, well, if you do that,

maybe I'll give you some turbos.

And I get to bring it back to him.

Now it's on record.

Now I already told like burnout wars,

Scott Merton's that too.

And he called him and left him a message at LS Fest.

Right.

But this is on record now.

You just spoke into a microphone.

So let's talk about Scotty for a second.

Chuckle's garage, right?

This guy is crazy.

I have first, second and seventh place

of the lowest output ever on his dyno.

Really?

And seventh place is a fucking 5.6 liter V12.

That man does not fuck around

with very big horsepower numbers at that show.

His land-speed-scaping truck has like 2400 horsepower.

And he pulled the parachute at Bonneville

and it went sideways at 250.

And he just held it together.

And he's just like, he crashed his truck.

Do you guys know the term glazing yet?

The new term?

Lazing?

This means ass-kissing.

How did you know that?

Why not just say ass-kissing?

Not as old as you.

I didn't even know that.

Anyway, I feel like I'm just glazing Scotty.

But yeah, no, he did the Isle of Man on Enduro.

So he's got a fanboy over here.

Look, he's got it.

Hi, Scotty, whatever.

He'd even been total solid.

He was, I called and asked if I could dyno something.

And he was like, just come up and do whatever you want.

Can I bring three cars?

Yes, fine.

He was amazing.

It was super cool.

He's very much a non-gatekeeper car person.

He wants to get everybody into it.

But yeah, so I got that from him.

And it was a, so we have projects we do together.

And we have cars that we own that are mine and that are his.

And like, you know.

And so this is what I call.

It's complicated, but it's not that complicated.

It's super complicated.

You have a prenup for this?

I don't know.

You just got married.

Yeah.

But good thing all those cars were a thousand bucks.

No, they were 500, remember?

So this was what I call like a skunkworks project.

So I'm a welding and fabrication automotive teacher.

That's how we met.

And so, you know, I have a yard that enables me to park cars in there.

Find your neighbor's cars.

Yeah.

And so my wife, I mean, she's very supportive,

but like she didn't even know this existed.

Went straight to the school and then it sat there.

I was like, what are we going to do?

Maybe we'll get the diesel in and then we ended up putting an LS in it.

The school's the hiding spot.

It all happens during like lunch.

And then I have a long break every other day between classes

where I have like an hour and a half, which like,

if you're pretty laid out time, you can do a lot an hour and a half.

And I just sort of catapulted a very sloppy, not very well done,

not my normal work quality LS into that thing with a Muncie 4 speed.

And usually when there's a project that I'm involved in.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I, my suburban's nicely done.

Your suburban's nicely done.

And that was all me.

And then this is just, I, you know,

I just kind of did it.

I did it like the high school way.

And I like the projects that we do together because it's like,

we have our strengths and not even, I don't know.

I like the Mercedes, of course.

That's not, I mean, you started it and I touched myself inappropriately.

It sounds great.

LS isn't her amazing.

The LS, because it was on the ground.

We didn't even have to pull it out.

Someone pulled it and then decided it was not worthy

because the head was broken.

So we took the heads off of it.

And then there was some good darts, small block heads.

We like, roped them on.

Yes.

I forgot about that.

There was dart heads and laser.

So you defrauded pick and pull.

I mean, how very could you put different heads on it?

And like,

my friend had a cam.

I was like, what's Becky's all?

I don't know.

We bought it at a swap.

It was a mystery cam and it sounds amazing.

And then the Muncie was a Muncie that I bought.

There was a bucket of Muncie that Jacob built.

Was that the bucket of Muncie?

No, it was the one I bought from Hustelli that got built.

Okay.

And so it's just all everything.

I'm not in that car.

I'm definitely not in that car.

$4,000.

Oh my God.

And when it shows up to a burnout competition,

there's people with $40,000 crazy.

And it's, I mean, it does the same thing.

And the Australian style burnouts is where it really,

you know, where you can just doing donuts.

I don't know.

I don't, I thought it would be upside down or something.

But the toilets go the opposite way.

They use.

So hold on.

Australian style burnouts are actually donuts.

Australia.

So standing burnouts are bitch burnouts.

That's what everyone says.

That's the first thing that'll happen.

If you, if you just like, we hosted.

So I was bored enough to toss someone a steering wheel

and light my car on fire.

Basically in the standing burn.

The first post, when we post a picture of a standing burnout

on our account, somebody goes, oh, you ought to do it like Australia.

They know, they know how to do it.

Hold on.

Is it a normal thing to pass your steering,

remove your steering wheel and give it to someone

on the outside of your car while you're doing a burnout?

Is that, is that how you rectify?

It is.

I just wanted to make something a little more spicy.

You know what I mean?

I was trying to entertain.

I'm just trying to entertain.

So he's doing the burnout.

And I'm going like this.

Cause I'm sitting in there like this.

Like I'm on, cause he's just on the rev limiter.

He's in fourth gear.

You're going like 99.

It's basically like being on the freeway.

And just not just sitting there.

And then I'm just like, one of these tires is going to burst.

So we can go get lunch.

And then so he's like, I'm imagining Dustin's like, yeah,

maybe I'll get some pictures of the steering wheel.

I just hit the mic and yeah, no, it got boring.

So Australia does it where you can just do endless.

So what they do is you start standing still.

And then they're like, okay, go and you start a burn a slow roller.

And then you just come into the pit.

It's going to tip in super hard and then you just whip in donuts.

So when we did at LS Fest, it was, I'd only done a donut once before.

It's like really kind of embarrassing to even say that.

And I don't even know.

You can't even start somewhere.

This is no gate.

There's no gatekeeping here.

You can't even see.

Why not with a 550 wheel horsepower, 56 Chevy?

That's no big deal.

One, the burnout contest to after that, right.

Can't see anything because there's smoke.

I'm just like, yep, hopefully I don't hit the wall.

Here comes the wall.

So I put it in reverse and this is, I love this part.

I want you to watch this.

During the burnout?

So you can shame them away.

Because I'm getting close to the wall.

Okay, hear me out.

All right.

So I'm like, no, shit, what am I going to do?

I'm about to run into the wall.

I put it in reverse, bullet flashes in my head when he's doing that reverse burnout.

So I'm like, okay, I just, oh no, it was like the react was like,

like this was falling off the car.

Axl jump.

This was Axl Jordan in his Kobe's.

Like this was Axl, like jumping over someone.

Like it was way, way, way, way, way up the whole audience.

He couldn't hear it because he's just in there.

Let's say the sandstorm.

I honestly loved it.

And you just hear a collective gasp.

The audience was like, oh, no, you hear people like one.

It sucks.

Like it was like, no, the whole audience was like, oh.

I'm sorry if it didn't break at zero points.

It didn't break.

And it was amazing.

Jesus of the car were falling off because it's so rusty.

Rust and stuff was hitting the ground.

I love it.

I loved it.

And then every time I ever try to do a, so this is my car as well.

We own it 50-50.

And so every time I try to do a burnout in the car, the car just betrays me.

It loves me.

That car, that car, every single time I'll get it, it just dies.

Doesn't want to run, runs out of fuel.

So I've yet to do it.

I eventually, I do need to have my way with that car at a burnout competition.

But in the meantime, I've had this little Mercedes and it's

How is the winner of a burnout competition decided?

Crowd noise.

So the company who really does it well is Burnout Wars.

And they host everything now.

And they have like, we did not win that one.

That was the one he won was the year before.

And that was, they have like professionals.

There's people who just do it.

They just travel around.

They came from Australia to Las Vegas, which seems intense.

Just to do brands.

Yes.

And you'll have like maybe 25 cars and they're built for burnouts.

And so no, no rear brakes and, you know, 2000 horsepower and they pop tires in 45 seconds.

Running on alcohol.

Doesn't that hurt your performance by having it last only 45 seconds?

I think if it's a really amazing, your cars, it's an amazing 45 seconds, but I think there

are people, not me, who think that thing, good things should last, could last for longer than 45

seconds.

It was a full two minutes, which is the maximum.

Okay.

So then they take you off the stage.

Then they're like, come on, all right, finish already.

Get the cane or crook or whatever.

And they start playing the music.

So it should you time it so that you pop the tire at one minute 58 or something.

That's what you did.

You did that.

I just go in there.

I got lucky.

But as right after pop, you hear the horn.

When I don't hear anything, I just to the floor, the floor, the floor, no, everybody's holding horns.

I really, that's when I shift into sixth and you know, 200 miles an hour.

I start in fourth gear in the fifth.

Fourth is our six by the way.

Fourth, you start in fourth.

That poor clutch and in fourth notes.

Okay.

So it's, it's a 99 mile an hour top top.

Is that what you said?

99 in fourth.

That's probably has 456.

It's got 456.

It's probably.

Okay.

So it's not that long.

Mercedes.

Yeah.

So it's like three.

Oh, I starting third.

That's 138.

Holy shit.

So it'll pop.

Okay.

Two weekends ago, we hosted the brown competition and the first time it popped both rear tires

that were, I don't want to say new, but really pretty good.

45 seconds from start to finish like that.

And then the next time I, we said to the audience, I made a cocky comment like,

I'm going to do it in 44 seconds or less.

And he was like, oh, sweet.

And I didn't 38.

I didn't even, I didn't even track the results.

Yeah.

No, I went back and I like slowed down the clip and I was like, 37, 38.

38.

So is this something you've ever done?

Do you want to do it?

You guys want to do it?

Let's do it.

You can drive any of our cars and do it.

We don't care.

It's very fun.

I mean, I don't want to do, I don't need to do it publicly with a crowd.

Performing since I did.

A little bit.

It's honestly very, it doesn't matter.

Here's the thing about the second thing for you.

If you fuck up, it's better.

It's better.

If you hit the wall, you get extra points.

I don't think it's.

I don't, I didn't want to break your cars, but.

The Mercedes, it's been headwarsed onto.

I've just been, I have a little bit of anxiety about public displays of debauchery,

just from so many, seeing so many people crash cars doing that shit.

It's also weird.

I'm a teacher and then I'll go.

You're not doing it on the road.

But I've also gotten shade from people.

Really?

But we're doing it at an event with K rails all around.

This is a sporting event.

It's a sporting event at that point.

Very fun.

Which I mean, I want to branch out and that's kind of why the E30 is the thing.

I want to start doing like, you know, more AC type things.

Instead of just like, you guys do all these rallies and stuff like that would be.

Well, the rallies are definitely legal and perfectly controlled.

And then there's track days, which are actually.

Yeah.

But if you go little tiny turbo, if you want to go on track, because you're going to,

you know, the 2,500 horsepower track car thing is a bad.

I have to, I have to start by just getting in the car.

I paid for it.

It's a one owner car.

Well, so it's going to be another episode.

That'll, that will be one of our Hagerty episodes.

It's a very nice project.

I will come there and I will do a burnout possibly and Beatrice if I can get

bad enough tires on it.

What if we lift it?

I don't know if you should put your hands that close to tires and burnouts.

Here's what I'm worried about.

It does have 200, no, 189,000 miles on a lot of the components.

It's an i motor.

So that's just a 325i, but that diff makes some nasty fucking noises.

It will let you know if it breaks.

That means it was.

It's brand new drive shaft.

Brand new clutch, brand new drive shaft.

I'm sure it'll be fine.

It'll be fine.

It's 167 horsepower.

What could possibly go wrong?

Oh, it'll be fine.

That's a lot.

I don't know if it could do that much of a burnout.

I mean, we can get the first car.

We just got to squeeze the rear brake lines.

Oh, so what we do is we go to the hardware store and we get a ball valve.

Put it in the brake line.

In the brake line.

Or just we actually buy real ball valves now.

I actually have a real one.

And then the 56 it says off and then it says party.

That's party mode.

From my experience with my four door 86 at a you can do a burnout.

Yeah, because I could.

And mine, mine, I mean, it was fresh.

I have Fred Stein tires.

I had it.

It was, it was the nineties.

Yeah.

Nineties tires did not have as much Griffith's modern tires too,

but I have shitty tires that I can throw on.

There you go.

Shitty old tires.

Also, I'm excited.

I want to, I really want to like do this one very nice.

This is going to be maybe my, maybe my,

but I tell myself is my forever.

Magnus or this.

It's a what year is it?

It's an 87.

87.

So big bumper.

Yeah.

Big bumper.

And it's an E, not an ES.

No.

It's just a E two door, two door, which is what I wanted.

And I got a four door and it's a stick.

It's just, yeah, I want it.

So I wanted a, you know, 325 is, I tried to buy an ES,

which was cool.

Weird little E motor with the, with the spoiler.

Couldn't get it and they wouldn't sell it to me.

And then I ended up, my, my dad, you know,

worked at the dealership and somebody came in and had a blown head of gas.

I didn't want to fix it.

So I drove it from Mill Valley to Petaluma with a blown head of gas

because my dad said it's not that blown.

It'll be fine.

And I'm like the whole way home, like steaming.

And I get it home.

We did, like we bought it on a Friday by noon the next day,

we had done the head gasket and then that was my first car.

And that's all the terrible shit you do in your first car.

And it, I didn't do anything to my first car.

Your first car was a, I listened to this podcast before.

Didn't you, you had a Corolla that you.

Yeah.

Because my mom wouldn't let me have the 30 that I put deposit on.

Didn't it get wrecked or something?

Yeah.

The Southeast Toyota reps came down when I,

my, after my 49th trip to the dealership,

I filed a lemon law at 45.

And so I had three more and 49 was the final thing.

And they came 49 separate times.

Wow.

So is that like in the regulations?

Yeah, that was 49.

No, no, no, no.

I was 18 and didn't know any better.

So I found out about this because I brought the car in

and then someone told me about this lemon law thing

that I had never heard of.

And I mean, I went to the dealership so many times.

This is 1994 Corolla that to this day,

JT2 AE09B8R0067235 is the VIN for that car.

And I know it because every time I went to the dealership,

they're like, I think I'll get your VIN.

And I'm like, I fucking know it, bitch.

That's how often I'm here.

I was not nice.

You walking like, hey, Jason.

So I think it was 46 or whatever it was I filed.

So, and then it was two more times came in.

And then the last time I had it towed to the dealer

because I was scared to death to drive this car.

And they flew in from Atlanta.

I lived in Florida and they flew in to drive the car

and they were condescending assholes the way everyone else was.

And they went to go drive the car in back in five minutes.

And while they were driving it,

the only one remaining of the four bolts

holding the subframe on cheered.

And so the subframe fell out,

i.e. the motor and transmission and suspension fell out.

And they hit a bus stop.

This is the best redemption story I've ever given back.

And so when the guys finally came back,

he's like all sweaty.

And he was like, what the fuck?

We did a tow truck.

And I'm like, really?

You do?

Yeah.

Was your second car in the Sirocco?

Yeah.

The car that we've had that since June 7th of 97,

which is the last day of my lease on the Corolla on that 94 Corolla,

which I did run a car fax on not too many years ago

and it was rolled over in total.

Presumably when the subframe fell back out of it again.

Okay, right.

Yeah.

No.

But was the Corolla your first car?

Yeah.

I mean, it was the first car that I drove.

I was 14.

I bought a 72 Super Beetle in blue.

Vin 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 0, 0, 7, 2, 5.

Because I was 14.

You remember.

Well, yeah.

And those are the only ones really.

And then when I moved, then I moved to Germany and my parents,

my best friends, parents had it junked while we were in summer camp.

And so I moved to Germany and bought a 73 Beetle 1200.

Big block.

We junked because it wouldn't have passed if ever.

Frame was cracked.

The front axle carrier was cracked.

And then I moved back to the States in the first car that I technically ever drove was the Cornolia.

Well, I wanted a new door.

I never got it.

My dad forced me to buy it.

That bastard.

Yeah.

Which is a great.

I wish I just had it.

I sold to my ex-girlfriend.

I left my wallet in the glove box and I drove home and then I called her and I was like,

Hey, can you check to see if my wallet in the glove box?

I'm checking.

Yeah.

No, it's not there.

I'm like, did you actually check five or seven years later?

I get a phone call.

Hey, I just bought this car from this bubble girl.

And I looked in the glove box and there's a freaking wallet with the money, everything.

You are kidding.

Yeah.

It sat in the glove box of that ether the whole time she had it.

She imagined the worst possible owner for that car.

Have you tracked her down?

No, I know where she lives.

Whoa, that was from zero to 60.

Why would I ever want to speak to this person?

I don't know where she lives.

I'm not talking about speak.

I'm talking about administration of justice.

The last time I saw her, I was with my wife.

Okay.

Maybe steal it.

You don't know the story at all.

Last time I was with my wife and we saw her at the fair and she was walking and I just

rolled my window and I went,

Bitch.

And she fucking turned around.

She turned.

Wow, the fact that she turned it.

She's a bitch.

I love that story.

And you know what?

We ended on good terms, but the wallet thing is unforgivable.

The wallet is unforgivable.

I had my social security card that you're not supposed to keep in your wallet.

Yeah.

I had to go to the social security office to get a new one.

Seven years.

The bitch never looked in the glove box for seven years.

And that whole phone call, I knew it was fake.

Yeah.

Because did you really?

Yes.

It's not here.

And I'm like, all right.

Man, you dodged a bullet getting rid of her.

Oh my.

Wow.

She was barely my girlfriend.

I actually wrecked that same car with her.

What is up with this car?

This car.

It was up with her.

Is it her or the car?

Which one is it?

I slid it off the, I was raining and probably bad tires.

And I slid it off the road and I hit, you know, E30's weakness oil pan.

And I hit the oil pan like hard on a rock and I drove her home and it was like leaking,

leaking, leaking, leaking.

And I was just about to do an oil change.

So I had like, you know, spare quartz in the back, putting oil in it,

driving, went and power washed it, power washed it, got all the mud off of it,

put more quartz, drove to the house, freaking drove in really quick through a pan

underneath it when the house pretend like nothing happened, right?

Wait for my dad to go to bed and the whole underside of the car was dented

because I like bottomed it out.

And I'm out there with like a rubber mallet, like midnight going,

trying to pound the dents out.

And my dad, you know, master tech his whole life and like way more of a criminal

than I'll ever be like actually.

And I've heard those stories.

Yeah.

So then he comes down and he just looks and there's like a blade of grass,

like in my, I don't know, just some upper part of the car.

And he just goes, he looks, he can kind of see what I'm doing.

He goes, what was a nice car?

That's a disappointed car had like 60,000 miles when I bought it.

It was beautiful.

It was a beautiful ad had been beautiful.

Was the third owner of it.

And she owned it for seven years.

Wow.

Maybe it wasn't.

Do we know where it is now?

Yeah.

The guy, I know who the guy who got it.

He it's now his ex's car.

Oh my.

I think, you know, that's the car.

It's like Christine.

It's just like town whore.

Jesus.

That was such an angel when I had it.

But so I always, you know, that was what my first car.

But your first car was a B28.

And that's what I learned in my dad's.

My dad had two E28s that I learned how to drive in.

So those are my first real connection cars.

And I love them.

I love them beyond all.

So what's your affinity for being Libby's?

Or do you not have any at all?

You know, I don't really have an affinity for them.

I like like 2002s.

I actually like E30s.

Like I like how they look.

It's more of an aesthetics thing for me.

I love E9s.

I love how you guys look.

Those are super cool.

M1s are really cool, obviously.

But that's obviously like wait.

Also the best ever.

No, I mean, it's it's mostly an aesthetic thing for me.

Like I have driven and wrenched them much.

I haven't experienced them in that way.

That's why it's only an aesthetic thing for you.

I haven't gotten a chance to experience them in that way.

My only personal like cars that I've owned,

I had a 69 Volkswagen bug.

I put a 1914 in it and like did all kinds of stuff to it.

And then I had a 67 Dotson little fair lady roadster.

That was my first car.

Oh, cool. Which size?

I don't even remember.

Bite.

Were they?

1500, 1600, 2000, 1800.

I think it was the 18 too, I think.

1500, I think.

I didn't have that one for very long.

I've never driven one.

But you haven't driven any of them?

No, Randy Pope stories tells me I have to drive one

that it's a magical and amazing.

2000, I've only driven two of them.

They're cheap.

Seven of them, they're just lined up in this front yard.

Magical, absolutely wonderful.

Maybe I need that.

I tried to buy it after I drove it.

With a Hayabusa motor, we'd be.

Even with a two liter, it was quick.

It sounded great.

It was beautiful.

It was delicate.

I tried to buy it and it was like 8,000 bucks.

I mean, they were just dirt cheap.

Need that and the seller wouldn't sell it.

I'm going to go fire up the Facebook marketplace now.

I see it before you go to bed.

That's the best thing to do.

You don't even have to.

I'm telling you, my neighbor has like, remember the neighbor?

No, I know.

You just go drive one away.

Where he noticed if one goes missing.

No, I feel like he has so many.

His full yard is full of them.

If you're like, hey, there's one nice one.

All of the rest of them are total.

Yeah, they probably all turn to rust, just like Z's.

So the other neighbor has one and it has a blue and yellow

personalized plate that says before the Z.

That's like, damn.

That is the plate.

That's cool.

That's Jaina level plate.

And then for me, before I was into American cars

and mouse cars, when I was a little kid,

it was all Ferrari 24-7.

That's all I was into.

I used to count and keep track of how many I would see

when I was a kid.

I had this little book that had all the Ferrari models in it.

Jesus Christ, you had a book?

Right?

No, I would have had all the Ferrari models.

There's one.

I read it all the time.

And so when I was like 12, I was at this.

I thought you had a book that you wrote down in them.

No, no, no, no.

It was just a book that had all the Ferrari models in it.

That is a little surrogate.

So when I was 12, and this is kind of like,

Deer Diary.

Yeah, Deer Diary.

I saw an F430.

So this kind of goes with the not gatekeeping, right?

So there's a guy at, it's like this Marin Yacht Club car show

or something.

And his name was David Love, I think.

And he had a 59, 250 Testerosa.

And he's like-

Was it 57?

Okay, good.

A car still lives in Marin.

It's in like Emeryville or something, isn't it?

We sold that car in 2014 for him.

Is he having it from like 60 something?

Yeah, he bought it in like 67 or something like that.

And he paid 3800 bucks or something for it.

And he owned that car and raced it for the rest of his life.

He had a 250 TF also.

And then he sold it to the guy who,

he's a big collector who owns McLaren of San Francisco.

What did it sell for?

I guess I could reveal this.

I don't know.

It was north of, it was north of $25 million.

It was above 25.

So this guy, nicest guy, right?

Yeah, incredibly nice.

Super nice guy.

I'm just standing there.

He's like, hey, do you want to go to the gas station and back?

And I'm like, yeah.

Free candy?

Your parents were like, sure.

It was actually my aunt and uncle.

So I don't know.

They didn't care about it.

They didn't care.

So he's just, man, the V12, I'm just, it was just, wow.

Those are the kind of things that stick with you forever.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's just-

So forever that will be the most expensive car you've ever ridden in.

I mean-

Maybe not forever.

Geez, I'm only 28 years old.

Well, I mean, that's-

You're going to have to work hard to get-

I know, I know, I know.

Well, it still lives here.

It's locally owned by the same guy who bought it from him in 2014.

The guy who bought it traded five cars,

including McLaren F1, towards that car.

That's where the McLaren F1 went.

I know where this car lives.

We can find it.

Yeah, and it's-

I know the car can probably actually make a phone call.

It just holds like a special place for me.

But I'll break in.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's just, those are the kind of things that just ignite your kind of car

passion towards you.

Just not on the north of briefcase.

And you're like, yeah.

I was in the childhood.

It's just cool when people are that.

You know, and then you have people freaking out about their, you know,

$30,000, $67, Super Sport Malibu.

And this guy's just rolling a $25 million Ferrari.

Like, come on, kid.

Like, come on in.

Yeah, totally.

That was him.

He would tow it with like a 76 Dodge conversion van

on an open trailer when he would take it to Laguna Seca.

And he crashed it one time, too.

Yeah, he crashed it in, I think, in, oh,

nine at Laguna at the corkscrew.

It's just like, that's the guy.

And it's, it's so crazy with those cars because there's this website called,

I think it's Barquetta CC.

And I, I will scroll that for like hours because I love reading all the bottom

this year, bottom that year.

And then it's like swapped in small block Chevy in this year.

And then engine all about reunited with car in this year.

And it's like, it's so cool that they're that detailed on their history.

I just like, and that's the stuff that's public.

There's a guy in Switzerland named Marcel Massini who keeps records of every

single car and you can get a report from him.

And he'll be like, this car was supplied from Pininfarina on the 17th of November,

1964.

And then like, it was originally this color.

And then it went to some lady in Tahoe and she had it.

And then it went to some guy at Reno and like all that stuff's in there.

And I mean, but yeah, you can get a report from the guy and he'll tell you all about it.

It's just like that time period when those cars were worth like nothing.

Like there's a, you know, 250 GTO that was on a trailer in a yard that was donated

to like a high school shop class or something like that.

Have you ever heard of that story?

The worst thing you could ever do.

The one I know is the photo of the white one on the trailer behind a Buick Riviera.

I think it's a 63 or 64 Buick Riviera.

So the one I saw, it's red and it's on a trailer and it's all like patinaed,

like blown out looking.

And it's like in the 70s, of course, when it was worth nothing.

It's just insane.

Mind blowing.

We're not necessarily all about burnouts and stuff.

We actually care about the story of the cars.

There's layers, of course.

We found the, I mean, the Chevy told us that story.

You didn't do a burnout in the parking lot yet.

I would never, I don't think I would ever do that.

It's ready.

I just couldn't.

Oh, it's an automatic.

It's such an angel though.

It's such a sweet little angel.

I don't know.

Angels are bad too.

Those tires are hard plastic.

Yeah. Easy burnout.

It's an automatic torque converter.

It's not going to hurt anything.

I mean, I guess, you know, that's the thing that connects all of us together

is all the stories of these cars.

I mean, why are we so redoing it?

So that's what motivates you guys drive around and look for stories in people's

driveways and then find them in another car.

Yeah, cool.

And now it's turned in.

It really turned in Instagram reels is what it turned into.

It's like car life.

Like comedy, you know, we like skits and, and, you know,

I remember like the first reel I made that got like a million views.

We're like, okay, this is kind of going somewhere.

And then now we're like, what a, we stopped,

I recently stopped counting them, by the way.

Oh, we used to like keep track of which ones went down.

We were, we stopped at like a hundred and forty eight.

Yeah.

I mean, I'd hit a million.

Like our best one.

It's like five or six hundred million views.

Yeah.

The best ones on YouTube is that one hundred and fifteen.

One fifteen.

Yeah.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah.

Fourteen seconds.

One fifteen gave us 30,000 subs.

No, 39,000 subs.

Talking like a real YouTuber.

Like, yeah, you, I was gonna say that's exactly what I was like.

Imagine, imagine if I didn't even know how many bombs I gave us,

but it gave us that many subs.

So, and we're back to the gutter speak here for those ladies.

You came at me with your Jaina, man.

You are.

Okay.

Let's, can we, can we get a running telly?

How many times he's brought up the Jaina on this podcast?

It's a lot.

He seems to be obsessed with my Vangina.

I'm kind of in love.

I don't know why.

And send him a, send him a picture of it so he can hang it on the wall.

I don't know.

No problem.

I have Instagram posts on it.

Just a random picture of it.

It's like one a.m. on my phone would be the best thing that ever happened to me.

I'd be like, wow, Jesus.

Just to show my wife, what is that?

Hey Siri, send a picture of Vangina.

Hold on.

I have to tell her to remind, remind me tonight at one a.m.

to send a picture of Vangina.

Get ready for heart eyes in two seconds.

Oh, it's, she's, she's still listening.

I will stop bringing it up.

Okay.

I'm going to send you reminders in the past.

Past.

Wow.

So what about the first episode, the truck that we built?

Oh, I haven't even gone there yet.

Question, they sent it to you?

Yeah, I saw the episode.

Did you watch it?

Okay.

So it was sent to both of us, but Derek is actually busy.

I did watch the entire thing and then I started to make comments on it.

And, and I told you, I got distracted.

Like a squirrel went by.

Yeah.

No, we're not going to talk about it because I don't know if it's been aired yet.

This, wait, they told us.

Yes.

They said it will have been aired.

Will have done been aired.

And then this will be the week after.

So I'm going to give you a little insider baseball about Haggerty.

Shit moves around constantly.

Okay.

Fair enough.

So I don't want to promise anything.

So we don't want to give it away, but you do.

We scheduled a watch party, Jason.

Good luck with that.

Yeah.

But there, remember, there are two things that could move around.

This podcast could move around and, or the show could move around.

Okay.

Fair enough.

But the premise of the show is that you guys go to a swap meet.

Yes.

And you build a car, truck.

Yes.

71 four-wheel drive, original paint.

Original paint.

And the truck was from all sorts of different places, but it all came together.

Two different parts of California.

The frame.

So we had the frame.

Well, and the bed was in two different places.

The bed and the body were in different places.

But like in the same town.

But original to each other.

And so this is.

This is to us, unitary car people.

This is completely nonsensical.

Yes, exactly.

What was where?

Imagine the hood and the trunk lid were in two different parts of town.

And then the trials and tribulations of you guys getting this car, running,

leaking.

I mean, running, leaking a lot.

A lot.

And then, and then leaving the parking lot in said vehicle under its own power.

And we drove it a hundred and fifty miles.

Like literally lifting the cab on there, putting the bed on, wiring it.

That was wild.

Yeah.

Lifting the cab on.

I mean, I have friends.

And then we recruited random people.

The bed was the best because there was just random dudes.

Walking by.

I was like, hey, you guys look strong.

And they're like, what?

Yeah, we're strong.

And then they were like, help this lift the bed on.

And I was like, ha, sorry.

That's great.

Yeah.

It was a fun experience.

It was like a lot like it was a lot of work.

But I want to do it.

I want to I honestly want to do it like once a year.

I want to build it.

I want to every year I want less done.

It's more the challenge to make it harder every year.

Because this time I like the week before I put like an engine in the frame, you know,

and it was like it was mostly like it was just a.

It was also an engine that we shot.

We gave a whole garden hose worth of nitrous to to see how much more power we can make it on the.

Yeah.

Next time just show up with nothing but tools.

And then you have to buy everything.

That would have to be a big giant bigger swap me that goes on for a few days.

But yeah, we could do that.

I'm down.

Just saying.

Make it difficult for yourselves.

Okay.

Well, everyone needs to check out your new show called driveway finds on the Haggerty channel.

Derek, you'll have to watch this when it comes out because I'll rescind your your advanced copy.

Or the Impala episode at least.

Yeah.

No, no, no, I will consume it.

I just have to have it not be my professional job to do that.

Yes.

Good.

You'll add to the view count.

Help these guys out.

We'll come back soon.

Please.

We live close.

Death traps.

Yeah, you guys are.

That's the other thing.

They're fairly local.

We can have these guys.

Anytime we want to turn the table around and confuse our audience with with the new setup.

My thought is you might be like reviewing the brand new.

Is there anything coming out with the 2026 Impala?

I don't know.

I barely do new cars anymore.

Is that a thing?

Yes.

Whoa.

I hate that I know that.

Good.

I hate that I also know it now.

Oh my gosh.

I'll deal with the knowledge of where new Impala is.

We're stuck in old car.

I hadn't heard this.

You can always drive the 64 Impala to be like a head to head for the new one.

You know, like we're just borrowing kind of thing.

I mean, ever since they went front wheel drive, they're dead to me.

Pretty much.

Yeah, I exactly know they were until just now because I stopped.

The last rear wheel drive one was the SS, the purple SS from like 94, right?

96.

Our friend knows where there's one of those.

They're so great.

That was the last one.

That was rear wheel drive.

Did we grab that as well?

Impala SS.

It's not really neat.

Should.

They're so cool looking, especially in the like that.

Purple.

Root beer, purple, whatever.

You should make a wagon one.

Blackberry.

You know, there's like out of the road master.

It's mechanically identical or the Caprice classic wagon.

Right in.

Yeah.

I mean, we'd love to come back.

You guys can drive our shit boxes.

You can do burnouts.

You can break them.

We honestly don't care.

You can drive the Mura and break it and do burnouts in it.

Okay.

You'll break it if you look at it.

So it's fine.

You don't have to do a burnout to break that car.

You could probably make the lights not dim.

Or a drive.

Or a headlight that works.

Or a Hollywood.

Hollywood.

H3s in it or whatever you said.

Something like that.

Yeah.

You ever want to actually drift a Mercedes in a burnout competition?

There's a one you happen to be at.

He drifted.

I got Derek to drift a 116 300 D turbo.

I drifted on that.

It took a lot of work.

It stopped yesterday.

Did you?

Yeah, we have the video.

We're trying to promote our video and he's drifting it and going like,

hey, do you want to see us build this truck in 24 hours?

While you're drifting.

The first take was flawless.

The other seven, not so good.

Seven.

Welcome to television.

Yeah.

I stumbled my words slightly and I'm like, I can do that again.

And I'm like, after seven takes, I'm like, there's no way.

Forget it.

There's no way I could get to the first slide.

The first slide was flawless.

It just kills me.

Yes, we're local.

Thank you so much.

Yes.

Thank you guys.

Thank you for having us, guys.

It was a pleasure.

It was our pleasure.

I will say like the lead up to this for me, listening to you guys and each of your

content together and separately, like it's just wonderful.

Well, just like crazy.

It's great stuff.

Like crazy, like how do I put this?

Just so well made and so articulate.

Remind me to send a tip to John for $20.

No, and like I said about your E28M5 video that like,

literally gave me a response I didn't know I had.

Just thinking about the car.

I learned how to drive in.

Yeah.

That's the goal for me from the videos I make is always some kind of emotional

content, some sort of understanding of the car in context and what it can do that

sort of makes it special.

I mean, it literally put me back into my dad not knowing that I was beating the

shit out of his 535, you know, that's a certain feeling.

Yeah, he's fine.

I jumped it.

Isn't there a certain point where you and he'll find that out?

Statue of limitations.

Thank you.

Statue of limitations.

They'll be finding that out.

I think we've passed it.

We're good.

That's right.

Look, I've made several admissions on the show that after which I'm very thankful

my father will not listen to this because I don't want to hear.

I don't want to hear it.

My dad understands.

What was funny is afterwards he's like,

jumped my car and I was like, you know, my dad's a master tech.

How do you know?

What the fuck did you do?

Oh, it was I drove all the way home.

I had like an inch and a half of toe, you know, like that'll do.

And then he goes, what happened?

And I go, oh, I hit a pothole really hard.

They're really.

And he's like, he bought it.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

He bought it.

Not anymore.

Because I mean, like, you know, anyway.

Cool.

All right, dad.

Yeah.

All right, boys, come back.

It was fun.

Thank you so much.

We will.

Thank you.

Thank you guys.

Yeah.

Thank you.

And you guys tune in to the Haggerty Channel to watch driveway fights.

I'm looking at all the cameras.

One of them.

Yeah.

One of them.

I can't actually see them.

It's a little bit.

Lighting's all fucked up.

There we go.

Finally, get it all out.

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