The All-Star Race Was Carnage – And Dale Loved It
About this episode
Episode 716 of The Dale Jr. Download swings between format talk and on-track chaos. The hosts argue the All-Star Race format “has sucked for a while” and debate a simpler, no-caution “20 laps” concept, including whether to “get rid of the fan vote.” They also praise Dover’s crash-heavy entertainment—“Carnage. We need more of that s***”—while breaking down grip changes, groove movement, and how lapped cars should yield. The show later pivots into silly-season and team logistics.
After a polarizing NASCAR All-Star race at Dover, Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the studio for a new episode of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to weigh in on the race and look ahead to this weekend in Charlotte:
- We are trying to do too much with exhibition races
- Attrition is entertaining
- Rajah Caruth’s on-track incident with Jesse Love
- Dale is back in the Amazon booth at Charlotte
- RFK’s future charter predicament
- Where does Jesse Love go next year?
During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions about:
- Driver aggression during the All-Star race at Dover
- Moving the All-Star race to Nashville Fairgrounds
- First time getting pulled over
- Brandon Overton’s Budweiser dirt late model
- Nova updates
- Dale returning to the Amazon booth
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the start
"Like people tell, oh, there's a start. Oh, they're wrecking. They kept f***ing wrecking."
The start of a race is when cars are accelerating into traffic and drivers are still sorting out positioning. Early-race incidents are common because the field is bunched up and everyone is reacting to what’s happening ahead.
wrecking
"They kept f***ing wrecking. They kept wrecking. That's what we need. Listen. Don't, I mean, it's a shame these cars cost $350,000."
In motorsports talk, “wrecking” refers to crashes that involve loss of control and contact with other cars or the wall. When drivers say “they kept wrecking,” they’re describing repeated incidents rather than a single accident.
grip
"The brakes are way too good. Everything on it's way too good. Way too over engineered. Rip. Lots of grip. Until there ain't none."
Grip is basically how well the tires can “hold” the road. If grip is high, the car can turn and slow down more confidently; if grip drops, it starts to slide.
In racing, grip is how much traction the tires can generate against the track surface. More grip lets the car brake, turn, and accelerate harder before it starts to slide.
spun out
"I'm sorry. Brad got spun out by the one car. Who's fault was that? I couldn't figure that out."
“Spun out” means the car starts rotating and you can’t control it. Usually it happens when the tires lose traction, and then the car can hit other cars.
To be spun out means the car rotates uncontrollably, usually because the tires lose traction while braking, turning, or accelerating. In a race, that often leads to contact with other cars and can trigger additional wrecks.
Dover
"I mean, oh, damn. That's the thing about Dover. You don't really,"
Dover is a famous NASCAR race track. People mention it because the racing there can get messy fast when cars are packed together.
Dover refers to Dover International Speedway, a NASCAR oval known for tight racing and a track layout that can make early-race incidents feel especially chaotic. Drivers often talk about how quickly things can go wrong when cars are close together.
splitter wedge
"So I'm like, yeah, this son of a bitch is stuck. We had the splitter wedge under the goal. There's underneath the safer barrier."
On a race car, the splitter is a front piece that helps the car stick to the track. A “wedge” is basically a temporary block used to keep that front piece from getting hung up or scraping when the car is stuck.
A splitter is the front aerodynamic extension on a race car, designed to create downforce. A wedge under it is a makeshift support used to keep the splitter from scraping or getting stuck, especially after contact or when the car is trapped against a barrier.
safer barrier
"There's underneath the safer barrier. Yeah. The horsepower less downforce was great for the racing."
A Safer barrier is an energy-absorbing track wall system designed to reduce the severity of impacts. It uses engineered materials and structures so that when a car hits, the barrier helps slow the car more safely than a rigid wall.
downforce
"Yeah. The horsepower less downforce was great for the racing."
Downforce is the “squish” effect from the car’s shape that presses the tires harder onto the road. More downforce usually means more grip, especially in corners.
Downforce is the aerodynamic force that pushes the car’s tires into the track, improving grip. In the segment, they’re discussing how reducing downforce can change handling and speed characteristics during racing.
track treatment
"Oh, tires are falling. Track treatment. Wearing track treatment. I don't know if I could tell a difference."
Track treatment refers to preparation or conditioning applied to the racing surface (often to manage grip and tire wear). In this context, they’re debating whether it changed how the tires behaved and how quickly the car could move up the track.
groove
"they got the groove pushed up, but they're still about a lane and a half up there outside of the groove that nobody's running or using."
The groove is the preferred racing line where tires have laid down rubber and the track surface offers the best grip. Drivers may move up or down from the groove to find faster traction as the race evolves.
right front
"And then we blew a right front off the turn four or two. Yeah, I remember that."
The right front is a specific corner of the car’s tire set, and losing it (like “blowing off”) can dramatically affect steering and grip. The mention suggests a failure or tire issue that ruined their momentum after running well.
cushion
"him being a dirt guy, him being a, you know, chasing the cushion. He has special ability."
In oval racing, the “cushion” is the higher, banked racing surface near the wall that can provide grip and help cars carry speed. Drivers often aim for it when they’re trying to find stability and lap time.
concrete track
"Great track. So look, concrete, I still don't think if I was building a new race track, I still wouldn't go. Yeah. Concrete it. I wouldn't."
A concrete track is made from concrete instead of asphalt. The surface can grip tires differently, so track treatments are used to shape how the racing lanes work.
A concrete race track uses a concrete surface instead of asphalt. Concrete and asphalt can behave differently for tire grip and rubber buildup, so track treatments (like resin) are often discussed in terms of how they manage that behavior.
resin
"but there is an answer. There is a salvation. There is a, there is a, a fix resin resin. I'd resin the out of my concrete track."
Resin is a surface treatment put on parts of the track. It changes how the tires grip and how long that grip lasts, which changes which lanes are fastest.
Track “resin” (often a resin-based treatment) is applied to asphalt to change how the surface grips and how rubber builds up. It can make certain lanes come in faster or fade quicker, which affects where drivers can run.
Bristol lane treatment debate
"Look, I don't know. They treat the bottom of Bristol. They don't do anything else. They do want them on the bottom of Bristol. Yeah. So you're saying it's opposite of Bristol."
They’re talking about how Bristol’s track surface is treated to encourage racing in certain lanes. The goal is to control whether drivers stay on the bottom or move to other lines.
This segment focuses on how Bristol’s track treatment influences where cars want to run—bottom versus top—and how that affects passing and multi-groove racing. The hosts compare the strategy to what they’d do on a different track.
track position
"…they've done a really good job putting themselves in a position there to be up front and needing some track position in that moment."
Track position just means where you are on the track compared to other cars. If you’re in a better spot, it’s usually easier to stay fast and pass when you need to.
Track position is where a car sits relative to the rest of the field on the circuit—especially important near the front. In racing, being in the right spot on the track can make passing easier and can affect how well you can manage tire grip and car balance.
racing for the lead
"In this moment, you're racing for the lead. You're not really in the best spot on the racetrack…"
Racing for the lead means trying to be in first place. That usually makes the driving more intense because you’re trying to beat the other cars right now.
Racing for the lead means pushing to be first on track, which often forces riskier moves and tighter timing. The lead battle can also be affected by grip changes, line choice, and how the car behaves when you’re not in the ideal part of the racing surface.
slick
"…you're kind of at the mercy of the car on the outside when you're on the bottom of the racetrack and it's really slick."
“Slick” means the track is kind of slippery. When it’s slick, the tires don’t grip as well, so it’s easier to lose control or struggle to go fast.
In racing, “slick” describes a low-grip surface where tires can’t generate as much traction. When the track is slick, the car can be harder to control—especially if you’re on a less-preferred line like the bottom or outside depending on conditions.
adjustments on the car
"…You don't give your team to make the adjustments on the car that they're wanting to make to make it even better for the last run."
“Adjustments on the car” refers to changing setup during the race—commonly between runs or stints—to improve performance. Teams use these changes to correct handling, balance, and tire behavior for the next phase of the race.
last run
"…to make the adjustments on the car that they're wanting to make to make it even better for the last run."
“Last run” is the final part of the race. Teams try to make sure the car is set up to be at its best for those last laps.
“Last run” means the final segment of the race where the car’s setup and strategy are optimized for the closing laps. Teams often time their decisions so the car is best suited for that last stretch.
free
"We had a restart. Somehow or another, he was just a little free. It allowed me to get up underneath him."
When they say the car was “free,” they mean it was a little loose and harder to keep pointed where the driver wanted. That can cause mistakes faster when cars are close together.
In NASCAR driving, “free” typically means the car is loose or wants to rotate more than the driver expects—often showing up as oversteer on corner entry or mid-corner. That can make the car harder to control, especially during restarts when traffic is tight.
restart
"We had a restart. Somehow or another, he was just a little free. It allowed me to get up underneath him."
A restart is when the race starts again after a caution. Everyone is bunched up, so it’s easier to get into trouble if your car isn’t behaving the way you want.
A restart is when the race resumes after a caution period (like a crash or debris). Restarts are high-stakes because cars are bunched up again, and small handling issues (like being “free”) can quickly lead to contact or wrecks.
loose
"Rajah Most drivers are going to make that mistake. Connor Zillich made that mistake at Iowa last year underneath the seven car. You're going to get loose. You're going to bust your ass, wreck them."
“Loose” means the car isn’t stable in the turns—usually the back end feels like it wants to slide out. That makes it easier to spin or crash, especially when you’re pushing hard.
“Loose” describes a handling condition where the car’s rear end doesn’t follow the front as predictably, leading to oversteer. The speaker connects it to wreck risk: if the car is loose, drivers can “bust your ass” trying to save it and still end up in contact.
door your teammate
"You're going to get loose. You're going to bust your ass. You're going to take, you're going to door your teammate. You're going to door another guy. You're going to wreck them."
“Door” is NASCAR slang for making contact by driving alongside another car—often implying a side-to-side hit that can spin or wreck the other driver. “Door your teammate” suggests causing that kind of contact with a teammate, which is especially damaging because it costs both cars.
base hits
"But, you know, unfortunately, Jesse's the one that keeps being involved in these issues... But aside from that, like, we just need base hits. When you're in this car, go out there."
He’s using a baseball metaphor: “base hits” means doing the smart, steady thing instead of trying something risky. The idea is to avoid wrecks and let the team’s setup and pit work pay off.
“Base hits” is a baseball metaphor used here to mean making safe, low-risk moves rather than trying to force a win with heroic driving. In NASCAR terms, it’s about avoiding big mistakes while letting the car, pit crew, and strategy do the work.
pit crew
"When you're in this car, go out there. We're going to give you a great car. You're going to have a great pit crew on Pit Road."
The pit crew is the group that works on the car during pit stops. If they’re fast and organized, the car spends less time stopped and can stay in better position.
A pit crew is the team responsible for servicing the car during pit stops—typically tire changes, refueling (where applicable), and adjustments. Pit crew performance matters because quick, clean stops can gain track position and reduce the chance of losing momentum.
Pit Road
"You're going to have a great pit crew on Pit Road. They don't have good stops."
Pit Road is the dedicated lane where NASCAR teams enter to make pit stops under controlled rules. It’s separate from the racing surface, and timing there can strongly affect who restarts where and who ends up with track position.
crew chief
"And you have a smart crew chief. Let all of those things help you."
The crew chief is the person in charge of strategy for the race team. They decide things like adjustments and pit timing so the car stays fast.
The crew chief is the team’s lead strategist who calls adjustments and makes race decisions—like when to pit and how to set up the car for changing track conditions. Their calls can determine whether the car stays competitive through the race.
Pit stops
"And the two got up there from pit stops. He did. And I think if he lets the two go, it's possible that he ends up running him back down."
Pit stops are when the car comes in during the race to get serviced, usually tires. When you pit and how fast the team is can change who’s in front later.
Pit stops are the scheduled service stops where teams change tires and/or refuel and make adjustments. In NASCAR, pit stop timing and execution can swing track position—sometimes determining who leads after a caution or restart.
finish races / complete the race
"runway, you know, you got to prove as a driver that you can complete the race, right? And that you can get the car across the finish line."
In racing, finishing the race matters a lot. If you don’t finish, you usually lose out on points and money, even if you were fast earlier.
Motorsport teams often prioritize finishing because a DNF (did not finish) usually means no points or prize money. The speaker’s point is that even if a car isn’t winning every time, consistent race completion protects results and the team’s budget.
Xfinity series
"When we were running our Xfinity series, when we were running our Riley team, back then it was a nationwide team, we had some drivers in there that were fast, but they tore all our **** up."
The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s “second level” race series. It’s where drivers and teams build experience, and you still have to race smart to avoid wrecks and finish.
The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s second-tier national stock-car championship, sitting below the top-level Cup Series. It’s a common proving ground for drivers and teams, and the competition is still intense enough that reliability and avoiding wrecks can be as important as outright speed.
Riley team
"When we were running our Xfinity series, when we were running our Riley team, back then it was a nationwide team, we had some drivers in there that were fast, but they tore all our **** up."
A “Riley team” here means the racing team the speaker was running. They’re talking about how that team’s cars got wrecked or survived depending on the drivers.
“Riley team” refers to a racing team associated with Riley—an organization that has competed in various motorsports programs. In this context, it’s the team the speaker ran while competing in the Xfinity Series era, and the discussion centers on how driver choices affected car survival and results.
running order
"Brad comes in. Brad's like 14th, 12th, 16th, 10th, 12th, 9th, 8th, 8th, 10th. And we started creeping down the running order."
“Running order” just means which car is ahead of which at that point in the race. It moves around as drivers gain or lose positions.
In racing, the running order is the sequence of cars on track by position at a given moment. It can change lap-by-lap based on speed, pit strategy, cautions, and how consistently drivers finish.
running the top
"So to me, if you're a lapper, you yield to the leaders that are running the top at that point. Because as a lapper, the last thing you want to do is catch you on the extra to the corner."
“Running the top” means taking the higher line on the track, closer to the wall. Drivers do it because that line can be faster, but it can also create problems if a slower car doesn’t get out of the way.
“Running the top” means driving near the upper groove of the track, typically closer to the wall. On many ovals, the top groove can carry more speed, so leaders may prefer it—while lapped cars are expected to yield.
lapper
"So to me, if you're a lapper, you yield to the leaders that are running the top at that point. Because as a lapper, the last thing you want to do is catch you on the extra to the corner."
A “lapper” is a car that’s behind the leaders and gets passed (lapped) during the race. Because it’s slower, it can force faster cars to change their driving line.
A “lapper” is a slower car that is being lapped by the leaders. In NASCAR-style racing, lapped traffic can strongly affect the leaders’ line choices and braking/acceleration timing.
running the bottom
"Run the bottom. You don't hold anybody up when you run the bottom. You don't catch anybody because like I just said, when you catch a lap car in the extra to the corner, if you're running the bottom and you have to lift, the guy behind you comes with his massive run."
“Running the bottom” means taking the lower line near the inside of the track. The idea is that it’s less likely to mess up the faster cars behind you.
“Running the bottom” means driving near the lower groove of the track, closer to the inside. The bottom line is often easier to pass from and can reduce the chance of forcing the cars behind to lift or change their setup mid-corner.
extra to the corner
"You don't catch anybody because like I just said, when you catch a lap car in the extra to the corner, if you're running the bottom and you have to lift, the guy behind you comes with his massive run."
This phrase is about how you set up for the corner—where you are on the track and how much room you have. The point here is that lapped cars can force faster cars to change their plan at the last moment.
“Extra to the corner” appears to refer to the extra distance/space and positioning used when approaching the corner—often tied to track position and line selection. In this context, it describes how lapped cars can force leaders to adjust their approach right before turning in.
lift
"You don't catch anybody because like I just said, when you catch a lap car in the extra to the corner, if you're running the bottom and you have to lift, the guy behind you comes with his massive run."
“Lift” means you back off the gas a bit. If a driver has to do it because of a slower car, it can cost speed and make it harder for the cars behind to keep their momentum.
In racing, “lift” means easing off the throttle (or briefly reducing power) to manage speed and traction for a corner. Lifting due to lapped traffic can ruin the momentum of the car behind, especially on corner entry.
timing
"His hesitation made Justin hesitate and core days back there going perfect. When I said the timing, the timing to me was Justin was 23 carlings too close to him on the entry to the corner to figure out where he could run."
“Timing” means the exact moment you turn in and move into your lane. If a slower car is in the wrong place at the wrong time, it can force the faster driver to hesitate or change lines.
“Timing” here refers to the precise moment a driver can enter the corner and choose a lane without getting boxed in by traffic. In oval racing, timing is heavily influenced by where lapped cars are positioned relative to the leaders’ preferred entry line.
entry to the corner
"When I said the timing, the timing to me was Justin was 23 carlings too close to him on the entry to the corner to figure out where he could run."
“Entry to the corner” is when you start turning into the turn. Where you are and how you set up there affects whether you can keep your speed and line.
“Entry to the corner” is the phase where a driver turns in and transitions from straight-line speed to cornering. On ovals, entry position determines which groove you can run and how much you can carry through the turn without getting stuck behind traffic.
Jeep Gladiator
"...n it was going on, I was entertained. You're that gladiator. And you know what? They kept doing it. And you g..."
The Jeep Gladiator is a pickup truck, meaning it has an open bed for hauling things. It’s designed to handle rough roads and off-road trails better than many regular pickups. People talk about it when they want a truck that can do everyday jobs and still go off-road.
The Jeep Gladiator is a midsize pickup truck built on a Jeep-style off-road platform, combining truck utility with off-road capability. It’s often discussed because it brings the “go anywhere” reputation of Jeep into a format that can also haul and carry gear. In a podcast, it may come up when talking about vehicles that are both practical and adventure-ready.
Chevrolet Nova
"...cars, uh, people won't know any update on how the Nova is doing. The Nova is almost finished. Oh, yeah. ..."
The Chevrolet Nova is a car model from Chevrolet that has been around for many years. It’s commonly talked about by car fans, especially when someone is restoring or finishing a specific Nova. If the podcast says it’s “almost finished,” that usually means the project is close to being completed.
The Chevrolet Nova is a classic American car nameplate that’s known for its long-running history and strong enthusiast following. It may be discussed in a podcast because people often track restoration progress, updates, or the status of a specific Nova project. The mention of it being “almost finished” suggests the conversation is about a particular build nearing completion.
tuning
"I have to send this thing to a guy for three days for tuning. So it has this computer on it. And so basically right now it not being tuned means it shifts funny."
“Tuning” here means adjusting the car’s computer settings. Until it’s tuned, the car can shift at the wrong times and feel jerky or too eager.
In modern performance builds, “tuning” means calibrating the car’s engine/transmission control software so it shifts and responds the way the builder wants. They’re describing a shift-behavior problem that goes away once the tuner adjusts when the car should shift.
shifts funny
"And so basically right now it not being tuned means it shifts funny. It shifts fast. It shifts too quick."
They mean the transmission isn’t shifting smoothly or at the right moments. The computer settings need to be changed so the car shifts at the correct time.
“Shifts funny” is a description of incorrect or undesirable shift timing/behavior from the transmission control calibration. In this case, they say it shifts fast and too quick, which is why the tuner needs to adjust the shift strategy.
part throttle off
"So like if you let off the gas, it takes off. Yeah. Without even touching the throttle. So it's just, we got a tune on it."
This is about what happens when you’re barely pressing the gas and then let off. They’re saying the car still acts like you’re asking for power, even when you’re not touching the throttle.
“Part throttle off” refers to what the car does when you’re lightly on the gas and then lift off. They’re describing a drivability issue where the car keeps trying to move forward even after the driver eases off, which points to calibration of throttle/torque and transmission response.
600
"[4668.3s] That's why I feel like I can say Briscoe, because I feel like that... [4671.8s] It's just the 600 is one of those races where... [4725.4s] This is a 600."
“600” is shorthand for a NASCAR race that’s about 600 miles long. Longer races mean more chances for things to go wrong and more strategy around tires and fuel.
In NASCAR, the “600” refers to a 600-mile race distance. That length changes strategy and tire/fuel planning, and it also increases the chance for mistakes over the course of the event.
mile 400
"[4678.8s] Your Christopher Bell, more than likely, will be leading that race at mile 400. [4683.7s] Denny will be there. [4685.0s] He'll be probably leading it at mile 500."
They’re talking about specific points in the race—like being around mile 400 or mile 500. Those checkpoints help describe when the race is getting into the most important stretch.
“Mile 400” (and “mile 500”) are reference points in a long-distance race. They’re used to talk about when key phases—like pit cycles, tire wear, and track position—tend to matter most.
crown jewel
"[4725.4s] This is a 600. [4728.6s] It's a big race. [4729.7s] It's a crown jewel. [4730.9s] Guys try harder in this race, right?"
“Crown jewel” means a big, special, high-profile race. Drivers tend to take it more seriously and race harder because it’s a standout event.
“Crown jewel” is NASCAR slang for a marquee, high-prestige race that teams and drivers treat as especially important. Because it’s a headline event, drivers often push harder and the racing can get more aggressive.
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