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Long away of my Ltd. Welcome to Carl took its shoes

on here in 98.9 NW FM. It's me, May J on line with Mr

Scotty Doe Johnson, Mr. David Prince and Mr Edward Bunting.

How are you gentlemen? Hello everyone.

Thank. You doing well.

Thank you. That's.

Good, yes. Very good to hear, very good to

hear and good to see all you lovely gentlemen on the show.

And, and thanks to our listeners for listening in for the last few few weeks. We've had some comments, which

has been really cool on some of some of the episodes.

What are what are the comments, Matthew?

Believe it or not, talking about the Ford Taurus.

Really. What did they say?

Defending, defending the Taurus. Defending the Taurus.

We've got to get these people on.

We, we, we need to, I think I'll, I'll, I'll read you what they said about the about the. Taurus, please do.

Please do. So you know.

Like letting. The editor do you it is first

slash. Madam Classic and Clunker says

Interesting chat. I bought a mint low kilometre

Taurus from the auctions of 2019 for $500 plus fees.

Wow. I was the only bidder.

The dealers weren't interested. It had been owned by a farmer's

wife. I kept it for a few months and

sold it to a retiree who owns who whose own tourists had developed a transmission problem.

And since then I've found a friend of mine, a former Rep who had one as a company car from new.

So as we answer to get back to that, we said the person that would have bought one, we have a reps.

Card, we did say. That so so there you go Scotty,

your your old mate or you know, phone clipped up to his to his belt and. That's right.

And no, no, his his his pager. His pager correct?

And he was selling vacuum cleaner bags.

That's correct. He's selling vacuum cleaner

bags. And he was, you know, chatting

up the, the Ming lady. And so he's clearly exists.

He does exist. Scotty, you're, you were.

I think that's probably the most accurate description we've had.

I think we also mentioned, you know, the, the, the, the wife's car when the Fairlane and the Ltd were a bit big.

Yeah, yeah, it was a premium product.

A premium product. Premium, especially the Taurus

gear. Well, I think they're the only

ones we. No, I was gonna say hang on now

that I said that. I said hang.

On yeah yeah Yeah helicopter. Gear, I think it was.

There may not have been a low and a high spec, there may have just been one. Spec you could get your your

lower spec with cloth and your higher spec with.

Oh really? With leather?

OK, leather. But I think that was still gear.

I think that. Was still gears.

Yeah, correct. Yeah.

Yeah. OK.

There you go. Interesting.

He would have, I mean, the sales Rep didn't, you know, didn't want to stretch food, leather, you know, you don't need.

Were there any other sort of comments on the on the extreme profiling we did in that episode?

Not as on on that one, but I'll have to go trawl back through some of the older episodes, but because like I, I've been going back through a lot of them and saying, oh, people have been writing comments and I and I haven't even been responding.

Seth I. Had an offline comment on it.

You've got a. Friend of the show Michael

Green, who drives an Alpha GTV. What is his name?

Poor Michael. Well, he.

He sent me a message after the after showing and it came through as his name and number in my phone, but he signed it Giovanni as a suggestion. No, he'd be Michelangelo from

Michael. Michelangelo, See, you see.

I even said, though in that episode, I even said, now this is not a derogue. We're not saying anyone that

owns one I. Don't know, not at.

All not at all. He took it in good.

Form We're just running with a nice funny idea.

It's, you know, and, and there'll be plenty more of those episodes to come. You know, it's I, I think Edward

Bunting gets gets a lot of enjoyment out.

Of those, Oh yeah, I love it. But.

I can't wait till till the episode where you have who would have bought a BMW Active Toura 2 series because Ed has an opinion on that, but we'll save that for the episode.

I know exactly who bought those. Yeah, I sold it to them.

We'll discuss those as well as we'll discuss the the Subaru Liberty Xesia, whoever bought those.

So, so we'll have to discuss in a, in a, in a future episode too. In the next few weeks or so.

We'll, we'll have to bring it back because it's becoming, I think, quite a, quite a popular, popular discussion.

Point. It's a popular segment, Matthew,

you're better at listeners. They might hate it.

Oh, well, you know, it's probably for us and that's, I guess that's kind of what matters, right?

So. Yeah.

Exactly. So I think we've had two very

accurate ones, though, you Scotty with the Taurus and alum's the Jackaroo as low income single dad car Jakaroo.

So I think they're probably the most 2 accurate, like perfect, perfect ones that that we've had over the over the journey, as they would say over the journey. But yeah, let's crack on with

some car updates, gentlemen. We'll start with Scotty Doe.

Scotty Doe was that. Nothing this this weekend, but

the previous weekend I did go around to take the R31 out for a bit of a drive because it had to be moved anyway because my parents were painting. So I was like, OK, good

opportunity to take it for a spin and just you know, because I hadn't driven it since since the the car show.

So I thought, Yep, starter up starts up beautifully.

Something good, good, good start going for drives, you know, drive down, drive down the streets and come back up and then head down on one of these other roads that little bit bumpy in that and then all of a sudden my side mirror goes and pops off. Let's just hang in there.

I was like, oh, so turns out it's it's held together with like it's pretty much plastic and screws go into the plastic.

So something that's that old. Obviously what happens to

plastic deteriorates cracks. Yeah, so was.

It a really. Cold comment as well when you

drive. That was cold as today.

But no, no, no, today's pretty feral.

Yeah, it already was kind of starting to hang there a bit and I was looking at going, Oh yeah, I'll probably just, you know.

Sick of flex it itself. Well I was thinking I was sick

of flex it at some point it was a future me problem, but it ended up being a me problem quicker than I thought.

That's a that's a thing that happens.

People think, oh, do we just get fixed?

You know, and that especially with cars, yeah, You know, I, I, you should be right. It'll it'll fix itself at at

some point and then two minutes later it's on fire.

But. I had a run this week on on

trims like the the the accessory fitters and dealerships and the window tinters and they're pulling the door trims off all the recorded trims out for tow bar installation.

Oh mate, we've just cracked this quarter trim on a because they wrenched them to get the clips out and the environmental area in the workshops are so cold. They're all running up beanies

and all that. But yeah, they just wrench them

and they just ping because it's too, too cold.

Too cold? Yeah.

Sorry, I interrupted. No.

Car top tip, if you're wanting to adjust something with plastic, give it a bit of heat, bit of warmth would would that be the Car Talk top tip, David? Yep, absolutely.

Even a hair dryer better a heat gun, but you don't want to melt what you're working with. But.

Well, it's a pretty common thing.

They kind of the the Japanese ones used brass fitting.

So it was brass fitting that went into for the screw, but we didn't get that. We got plastic for the screw to

go in, but then there's talks that even some of the Australian ones got the brass, so it was a bit of a mix.

There's. Talks.

That there's got. So that was interesting.

I was like OK, so some of them got this and some of them didn't and I was like OK whatever, well mine's all plastic so I'll just get some self Tapper screws and just a little longer and bring it all the way through a bit further and that should that should fix it 3. Yeah, I reckon that probably the

early ones had the same fittings and then it was one of those things they to increase local content probably they just had done here and yeah. And Australia's like what?

Brass. No, plastic all the way.

Plastic. So that's what we ended up

doing. Plastic.

Yeah. Other than that, it, it drove

nice. I got the the new Speedo put in

there and much easier to read. All works nice and good.

Yeah, I assume it's, yeah, it seems fairly accurate.

And it seems to update more frequent, like it doesn't skip as much. So if I'm cruising at 100 or

something and I've, you know, put my foot down or something, it doesn't all of a sudden jump up to like 110 or something.

It it gradually goes up with it. So I guess what I'm trying to

say, it refreshes quicker. The refresh rate is quick, you

know, Gave the blade a wash and then it rains and now it's filthy and then gave it another wash and it happened again.

Rained again, yeah. So I decided just to clean the

interior instead. At least I keep that one looking

schmick. Absolutely.

So that was easier and that is it.

Lovely David Prince. I've I'm trying to think I've

driven most of the cars in the garage recently and.

They're all good. They're all like, actually I

didn't drive the Scamp, The Scamp, the battery is a little too low. It's been a little while since I

drove that. I want to order.

There's a guy in America that does bits for them and he does a bushing kit for the the gear shift, which comes sort of through the through the firewall and up with a series of universal joints. And over time they all go go a

bit daggy and horrible. I think I've mentioned this on

the podcast before, but I still haven't got the kit, but I must get on to that. But I have sourced another rear

engine mount. So I'll do the kit and the rear

engine mount and that car should be back and up and running.

Did have a you? Just hold the Sorry, do you just

hold the engine when you do the engine mount?

You just hold it up with your hand and then change it and then just place it. Back down again, even.

One of those it's. Yeah, yeah, I actually replaced

it when I first got the car, which is now 35 years ago.

I think I've had that car and I actually did it on the floor of the garage without a hoist. I think I I, I jacked up one

side and basically, yeah, basically worked my way up to what if it had a drive shaft where the drive shaft would be up to the back of the engine. Oh, there it is.

And dropped it out and it'd still have a couple holding it in place, so I was able to replace it without moving the engine very much at all. That's good.

Is it the car? You've had.

Mechanical David back then. I was a little more mechanical,

yes, yes. Very good is.

It the is it the car you've had the longest?

Oh yeah, by a long shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tried to get rid of it a couple of times but can't bring it myself to do it so I think it's going to stay around then.

I've been using the N 1 of it because a couple of reasons I find I don't get to drive it as much as I'd like.

Number second reason got heated seats so.

This is a. Good time of the year to have

heated seats so. Game changer.

Yeah, exactly right. Had a great run on the weekend

with a group of friends with Mr Bunting.

Was long on that run. Probably the most eclectic

collection of cars I think I've ever seen on a car run.

Was a bit. Random.

It was very random, from a Renault 16 to a Porsche GT3.

I think that black. One was the GT3 GT 3RS.

Ferrari. Ferrari.

Boxer. Roller Hearts.

Type 3 Volkswagen Yeah, Corolla CSI Corolla hatch, which was not the Chinese smartest. The best example you've seen,

but you know the best. Example.

But. All about participation.

It was about participation and it was brilliant playing being chased up Arthur's Seat by the Ferrari.

I found out I think he was driving very carefully on on wheels that tyres that certainly aren't fresh.

And yeah, thankfully the N1, you can use every little bit of the ECU boost that it's got up that hill, although you were in front of us said. And then there was a Jolly

Pathfinder, I think there was there.

Was a Prado in front of me that was slowing me down.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were crawling around

the corners. I couldn't even, I mean, I'm not

a fast car in that Renault, but I certainly would have been punting a bit harder than they were.

Anyway, what do you do? But then I'd forgotten how some

how great some of those roads are.

Sort of from Arthur's Seat we cut across to Belnarring and then on via Shands Road and Red Hill South and places like that.

Beautiful, sinuous, smooth, lovely roads.

So that was great, really good drive so.

I. Think that's about it for me.

Lovely. We're also joined by Jim Barlow.

How are you, Jim? Travelling with the heat today.

You would be the only one. Jim, you were a long time

listener, first time participant.

Is that what we're witnessing? No, no, second, second time.

Oh, second time, but I wasn't on that one before when you were on the other one. OK.

That's right. Yeah.

Welcome back. Welcome back.

Thank you. Welcome back, Jim.

Thanks for coming on again. Thanks for putting up with us

for the next, you know, hour and a bit.

I'm looking forward to it. Should be fun.

We'll move on. We're in the middle of car

updates, Jim. We'll start with your car

update. We'll get with yours.

OK, so I recently had the car service which include a new fuel philtre, and it was interesting because I got about 100 metres down the road and it was as though before I had that the throttle response was overdosing on Valium.

In comparison, it's much more responsive now.

But also what was quite a pleasant surprise is that I had arranged with David Prince to go to his house after the car was serviced to have a piece of the rear driver's side door trim re attached because it come loose. And then when I got to his house

I went, oh, they must have fixed it.

And then he said no, I called Bobby a car with being serviced.

So I was really awkward and then the other day went back to get new spark plugs put in and they should be going again in the school holidays to get some new front drive shafts.

So. Oh, nice.

Yeah, it's. Really like painting the Harbour

Bridge. It just sort of, yeah, the stop

it just keeps. Exactly like that.

Exactly like that. I'm sure you're on a first name

basis with them all. Pretty much, yeah.

You know, the writing joke is sort of like how many days will be in the front back again. So but it did give me a chance

to ask what they're thinking of their how their experience with selling Mahindras is going because you know, it's kind of hard to sort of find dealers that sell Mahindras.

So that was heading to discussion about that, so.

Yeah. Did did you see when you were in

there the other day? The new baby one that they just

released? I did.

See the new baby one? Yeah, Oh my.

Goodness. It's a little bad.

It's it's, it's cute as a button, I've got to say.

It really looks it. It's quite funky.

It's it's A1 litre, like a key of a canto really.

Googling it now. With a panoramic sunroof and

clock works loaded up. Sorry, is.

It is it called the thar? No.

No. The the. 30X No, not the 30X

that was the Unos. That's the UNOS.

XO3 or X30 or something? I think it's called the Mahindra

algorithm from memory. I think from, from memory two,

yeah, Turbo triple talk converter automatic.

So yeah, it'd be interesting to see what price point that comes in for people. But yeah, I don't.

I still don't see it being a massive player, but who knows, it may suddenly make Mahindra more palpable for more people, so we'll see. If they offer a 6 speed manual,

they could join the our illustrious club it.

Could it could. So, but we'll, we'll have to,

we'll have to see. Tibo Triple manual club.

You know, it's funny, I'm a big fan of of Matthew Hayden, who's a very famous cricket player. I don't know if you guys are

aware who who that is. He was a big ambassador for four

years ago, like massive like he was, you know, he's Ford's biggest fan. He was in all their magazines

and had a territory and had an had an F-150 like this is years ago. And and I saw him recently he

was advertising Mahindra's so that yeah, that's you're just, you're just, you know, it's like, it's like you mean Mahindra or something, something that wasn't the tagline.

There you go, Matthew Hayden. There's your, there's your one

plug from me. Anything else with any of the

other cars, Jim? At this stage, no that that's it

really. I've been, I've been quite sick

lately. I think it's changing schools.

I seem to catch like quite a strong bug.

So I haven't been particularly actively other than just studying. So nothing else to report.

What? About what happened to Civic.

I sold you, Jim. That nice little grey Ed.

That's the storage at the moment, Ed.

OK. So that's that's still with you.

That's good. Yes.

That was a tidy car. How many KS are on that?

2/23 had a. Little nudge bar on the front,

the Chrome nudge it. Did.

Yes, it did. But those are rookie numbers,

Jim. There's the get those numbers

up, Jim on. That one, yeah, on that one.

So you just sort of. Warmed up.

But also true that was that was sort of I think the last of the line Ed. So it had the bigger rims and I

think the. Yeah.

Preferred interior and that real sort of fishbowl visibility out there, the windows and stuff. Through which is fantastic.

Yeah, if we like that car. Yeah, I.

Remember going in one years ago? I was like, wow, it was, you

know, it was so greenhousey. It was.

It was. Really.

Yeah. Yeah.

Very glassy only. One the last time I went into Ed

civic would have been 2007 and my next door neighbour bought 1 and he drove the crap out of it and it was smoking and it was it was it was he bought a bucket version of it, but it it went good and I was like, Oh, this is, you know, this is kind of cool. So that was my that was my first

and kind of I think only. It might be time to get back in

one. I think Matthew have another

rear point. I do like an Ed and of the of

the civic kind that is. And so yeah, I'm a fan.

I'm a fan bunting. We'll get to yours last because

you've got a bit of an interesting story.

There's a tale. There's a tale and you can strap

yourself, strap yourselves in gentlemen, car updates with me.

I've haven't done anything with my cars as per SE, but I've done car related things. So as you guys know, I went and

bought, I went to M Lux and before they shut down, rest in peace. Moment of silence everybody.

Moving on. And I bought, you know, a rear

seat out of a, out of a Ford Fairlane BA Fairlane.

They had 130,000 KS on it, really tidy.

It looked like a really tidy car.

I took the reset out. I was like, I want to make a

chair. So I ended up making the chair

and I've shared it to you guys on online.

Yeah, no, it's, it's pretty cool.

Mr. David Prince is sorting me out with my upholstered

armrests. And then once they go on, it'll

be be it'll, it'll all tie together really, really nicely.

An Ltd. Catch.

Yeah, well, fair lane, fair lane gear.

Fair lane gear. Fair lane gear.

So you need the gear badge on the on the on it somewhere.

Yeah, but you could get that from a record and sort of put it on light or something. Yeah.

Well, I'll do you one better. Oh and I so I got the VIN from

the car and because it's, you know, it's original, I, I remade the sticker like the, the VIN sticker.

That's cool. So, so that'll go on to the back

of the chair because like, yeah, it's as a nice, as a nice little, you know, homage to where it came from.

And pay my respects to the to the old to the old.

It's very. Funny if the original owner of

that car sort of got to know that their receipt is now a couch. That's sort of.

Very, very bespoke, limited edition.

Very. One of one gentleman, one of

one, yes. So no, I, I actually surprised

me how good it turned out. I didn't expect it to, to, to

look that as good as it did. So I put, you know, I had some

speakers and I had this old head unit which I which that actual old head unit, believe it or not, came out of one of Edwards.

That came out of Edwards, I think.

Was it your 190 D it came out of?

Oh, is that that head unit? That's the head unit.

You you like, just just take it. I'm like alright so.

Yeah, no, I wasn't just, it was, it was like you just spent hours putting the original style head unit back in for me.

The least I can do is like, you want the old one and you're gonna have it, you know? So.

Go for it. And it used to light up blue and

it would really burn my retina and it and it did not suit my car at all. With a Bluetooth, you know, USB

in sort of head you. Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely. So it's up connected to my my

phone via Bluetooth. So, so it plays all, all, all

the tunes. I'll put some ambient lighting.

Underneath you can make it so that whenever a bum sits on it, it goes. Have you?

Have you? Lately.

I should do that, shouldn't I? You totally should.

Absolutely. It's instead of a whoopee

cushion. Do it have it do that?

I, I have you driven a Ford cushion.

So, so yeah, I was really happy with how it came out.

And now I'm like, what else can I add to this?

I'm like, I don't think I can add anything else, but I, I do want to make a, a foot stool to, to go, to go with it.

So, so, so that'll be the next thing.

If I find some more black leather that's out of a, out of, you know, failing or something that's like the, if the rest of the scene's mounted, I can just RIP off the leather and make like a little foot stool. And I think that'll just finish

it off. That'll be very good.

That'll be good. But I had to get cup holders for

it because the someone had, I didn't realise, but when I got opened I was cleaning it up like someone had actually taken the cup holder out of the centre armour.

And so I went to the records and got one of those of.

Course he did. And that's where I, yeah, and

that's where I saw my first Taurus in a very long time, which I sent you guys in the group chat.

So, but yeah, that's, that's pretty much it on my car.

Updates made a chair. So that's super exciting.

Very. Cool.

Edward Bunting. Now we had a chat yesterday

evening after I was after I went for a run at the gime and we had a chat and you told me the wildest story I've heard in a very long time. So, gentlemen, strap yourselves

in all. Right.

Well, David has already heard this of course I saw him on the weekend. But yes, Saturday was a very

full and eventful day. Just in in in loose other Car

Talk news to tidy up some things.

I did buy Ford Focus, my first ever Ford Focus, so I picked that up from Mannheim. It's a 2004 auto 4 door hatch in

white with an original 33,000 kilometres on the clock.

So Needless to say, this car has sat around for a while.

So as I like to do, run the gauntlet, pick it up from Mannheim and let's see what happens on the freeway.

So the first thing is that the the power steering on that car is not currently operating. I think all the fluid has leaked

out. So I need to get that tended to.

And the tyres I think could be the originals.

They're real old. David, you would not be happy

with the price. There's a lot of age cracks in

those. Needless to say, you know, got

me home. So yeah, that's in my garage.

And after a bit of a clean up, I'll, I've got a friend of a friend who might be interested in that.

So I'll, I'll certainly show it to them.

Moke's still waiting on a fuel pump.

I sold the get that went within a day up to Bendigo.

So that's got a happy new owner. Great car.

Yes, great car. Yep, David has done some

wonderful steering wheel work on my Triton today.

So I'm I'm yet to go and look at it David, because it's, you know, just too cold. But, but I will.

But I will anyway. Saturday morning I thought, you

know what I need? I don't need to vacuum or clean

the bathroom. I might need to go and look at

another car. So I went out to look at a

Mercedes Benz 380 SEL, which I'd seen come round Marketplace a couple of times. And ironically, a mechanic that

I know rang me and said, oh, this guy wants to sell this murky, you're interested. And I said, describe it to me.

And he did. And I said, I've seen that car,

you know, and I actually saw it in the street near David's house. That's where it was living.

So it sort of came to me in a few different ways.

This car. Anyway, eventually it was back

on Marketplace at a cheaper price because it needed some transmission work. So I thought, look, I I just

want to eyeball this thing. It looked really original and

when I got there, it is really original 1 owner still on full Garden State plate rego, you know, books, keys, factory mats, factory radio Thistle green on Palomino.

This is this is a very untouched car.

Every pamphlet and tag in the books that it that it ever could come with. And despite the transmission

issues that the condition of the rest of it is clearly a very well loved and and sort of garage car.

So I thought, yeah, I think I better have that.

So anyway, I bought that that's getting truck tool mechanic on Friday and we'll try and sort out the transmission later that day. On Saturday, I needed to get a

bumper bar for my E350. The back bar had some scrapes on

it and it had a crack on the top edge that that just wasn't easy to fix. So normally the the panel guys

will be able to work with what you've got sort of thing.

But he said, look, you're probably better finding a second hand bar. And there was a guy down the

peninsula who had one and I've been toing and froing with him for a few weeks about it. He wasn't home.

I wasn't around, you know, it just didn't line up.

Finally he said come down Saturday at 1:00.

Great. So I bought this Miss Merck in

the morning. I jumped in my car, drive down,

drive down to the peninsula. I meet Wolfgang.

He's an older German guy. And Wolfgang shows me the bumper

bar. Yep.

There's your 100 bucks done Chucky in the Triton.

And he had an ML sitting sort of in the carport.

And then he had a veto van sitting near that.

And I thought, oh, he's obviously a bit of a Merc guy.

So even though they're not particularly collectible models, either of those, but I sort of said, oh, you know, you like your Mercs, Obviously Wolfgang said yeah, yeah.

You know, I've worked for Mercedes Benz for 37 years and I'm like. Wow.

That's, that's a long time what we're doing there.

And he said he worked at head office, I think for a bit, but his main role was at lanes and and lanes to anyone in the 1960s, seventies, 80s was the distributor for Victoria, for Mercedes Benz cars. And they were a dealer in their

own right, but they were also sort of the distributor.

So they were down in Johnson St, South Melbourne then and then they moved to Sturt Street around the corner in South Melbourne. Not that.

Yeah, in the later 80s maybe. So I said, oh, that's cool, you

work for Lanes. Yeah, yeah.

What did you do at Lanes? And he said oh I was the like

pre delivery manager, sorry. We need the accent.

Oh sorry, I was the pre delivery manager there.

Thank you. Thank you I.

Said and I said, oh, that's cool.

I said, well, my little Mercedes diesel 190 that came from lanes, maybe you pre delivered my car. He said, Oh yeah, maybe.

He said, you know, I have a Ledger of all the cars that came in in that time I was there. And I said, can I see that

Ledger? And he's like sure, come next

door. So I go into his garage, he

produces this big, you know, A2 sized binder with Immaculate cursive writing, you know, as in one car per line on this Ledger.

But each page in this in this giant book was 1 shipment of cars. So he and it was all dated all

in chronological order. So he said, what's the serial

number of your car, which is the last 6 digits of the chassis of the V number. You know, it's the chassis

number or the serial number. So I looked quickly jumped on

Vicroads and got the serial number from my club Reg, you know, permit, permit thing. And we're flicking through the

pages. Bang.

There in February 1987 is my car.

I'm like. That's cool.

What the actual path? You know, like.

I. Thought I did not come down here

and think I'm going to find a Ledger of every Benz that came through Mercedes Melbourne in the in the 1980s.

So then it had the dutiable value of what my car was.

You know, the stamp duty was paid on.

It had the date when it came in on and the name of the ship.

So I've since Googled the ship that it came to Australia on and it was it was called the Barber Perseus.

And it was built by Mitsubishi ironically in the in the late 70s and that ran till 2009 that ship.

So that was around a long time. And it was built as a roll on,

roll off car car carrier, sort of the latest and greatest.

So that was. Pretty cool.

So then later on Saturday I went home and got the books out of my 190 diesel and sure enough there is Wolfgang's signature on the pre delivery page. So he he did indeed pre deliver

my car. Wild.

Then I thought, because I said to him, look, my coupe came from Neville Lindsay Mercedes in essence, and it didn't come from lanes. And he said no, because we did

with a distributor. They all sort of funnelled

through that, that port, you know, or that that point of of contact before they went out to the other dealers.

And I was like, interesting. I get out my coupe books.

Wolfgang had pre delivered my coop as well.

That's so crazy. How's that?

I was just like, this book is like Holy Grail to me.

I I want more. Now.

I haven't checked the books on the 380 SELI bought on Saturday morning, but that too is Elaine's car and.

Wolfgang Signature. I reckon it will have Wolfgang

in the book as well. So I actually sent him, I sent

him photos today of the the books with his signature and the two cars. I said, Yep, as we, as we

thought, you delivered both of these.

But like it was really fascinating looking at the, the page in the book, like if I look at it now, the paid the shipment that that my car came in on it had like this is the array of cars that were on that ship, right?

You've got 12345190ES. So the petrol version of the

baby Benz 191190D which is my car.

Yours was the only 190 D on that.

On that shipment, it was the only 190 diesel, yes, the previous, previous pages that he had of the other ships, there were sort of three or four or five of them sort of thing.

But on that shipment, yeah, that was the only one, 230ES123456789 to 11:00 on that shipment, 1230 TE waggon, cause the waggons were a bit rarer obviously and a bit expensive.

And then there's about 123456. So probably 10300 ES.

And then the last ones were some SS, his fingers covering up that in the photo. But that they would have been

like 300, sorry, 380 S ES or 280 S ES back then.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It might have been 420 SDLS

actually, or, or 300 SDS 'cause they upgraded the motors.

But yeah, just fascinating to see that, you know, these cars really were limited. You know, there's just there

were, there were, you know, caps on how many you could bring in at the time, aside from them being very expensive, there were sort of caps. So, you know, these shipments

are not like, Oh yeah, there's 1000 cars, there's 500 cars.

It's like there's, there's 40 cars like and, and that's it until another, you know, four months when another ship comes in sort of thing. So yeah, I, I thought, I want

to, I want to reference that book again and again and look, look at it, look at anything in it.

So yeah. The.

Chances of meeting that guy and and of all the people in Australia you could have met? Well, I mean, he was selling a

Mercedes Benz part, so I suppose that narrows the chances, but.

And then the fact that you, you say, oh, you know, you engage you in conversation, you could have said, thanks for that.

Off I go. By.

David, I, I could have just said, oh, thanks to the bumper.

Haven't, haven't I? I know I had a really busy day

that day. You know, I could have just

said, thanks, see you later, have a good day.

And just by asking one question and saying, oh, so you like, you like Benzes and, and that leads to another question.

And suddenly I'm, I'm viewing a Ledger with my car in it like from 1987. Like that just blows my mind so.

I'm staggered. Would he have been the only

person pre delivering each one of the cars?

Like every single. Car.

I don't, I don't know. I've got to ask that's.

Insane. I've got to ask him more

questions of it. No, there there would have been

obviously people working in the pre delivery area, but pre delivery manager. He he might have been the one

that signed it off in the book. You know, like, like I've

checked over these five cars that have been de waxed and what have you And, and I'm signing it off as, Yep, we've done everything. And he was saying that they all

came in with wax on them, you know, underside in the in the top topside. And that had to be sort of that

had to be sort of hot washed, you know, to get the wax off.

And but the solution they'd use would bugger up the rubbers.

So he said we're often taking out wiper rubbers and things so they didn't get affected by the the dewaxing solution.

So yeah, just just, and as as I said to him, well, you need to come on a certain podcast with David Nye, tell these stories because this is this is to us now.

This is fascinating info. Absolutely.

And he said when, when he left, you know, he said something about the ledgers and they said, oh, no, we're gonna just throw those out. And so he's like, oh, well, I

have to take them. And so I'm glad.

He did, because it certainly. Did, yeah.

Great rolling history of the shipments of Mercedes benders into this country, certainly into Vic in golden era.

I would love to go through that book and put in the Vins and see which ones are still on the road.

That would be. That would be so cool to do.

Yes. Well, in theory you could.

He's only recorded the last 6 digits, which is the unique serial of each car, but the prefix part you could work out.

Yeah, it's awesome because they were all for the same model.

They were. All you could.

You could like WDB 126 is a 126 series Mercedes.

Then there's a couple of other characters and then you've got your serial number. Yeah, Yeah.

So you could work that out. Yeah.

Imagine that. Yeah, imagine.

Imagine. That I, I reckon I'll, I'll go

out and pick up those books maybe, maybe later this week before the car gets towed to the mechanic and I'll, I reckon I'll have 3 Benzes that yeah, yeah, all wolfganged, which is sort of nuts. They've been wolfganged.

Ganged, yeah. That's.

It's that's my little Funny Car story for the week.

It's. Freaking wild.

Like it's it's. So great.

Wild, wild. That is, I mean it begs the.

Question how many of these people are out there like, you know, my mini Moke or something like like who sold Mokes back in the day or who worked on Mike? There's got to be people still

alive that that worked at the dealerships and great, you know, I knew about them. And it's just like, oh, we need

to just tap into these people and ask them some questions because that's cool info. And it all gets lost.

You know someone like that passes away and you you, you lose that that cool info. That legend needs to somehow

make it's way to the Bunting collection, I think.

Well, I, I said to him because he's like, oh, I got this old stuff, you know, And I said, well, he said, I, I actually offered this to the Mercedes club.

They didn't seem too interested but he said.

I think it should end up with the club and.

I'm like, I'm like I. Agree that should be with the

car club and be preserved. But failing any interest from

the club, ring me. Even if I could just spend an

evening with that Ledger, you know, take some phone snaps of that Ledger, then at least you'd have.

Yeah, exactly. Buy the drink, take take it out

for a nice meal. Just be in the Ledger.

We could call it Heath. Yeah, I would be very happy in a

rainy cabin. Just just pondering that for a

few hours. No, that's that's.

One day, one day. Anyway, I know where it is.

I know where he is so I can I can access the Ledger again I'm sure. What a what a crazy story.

I I. Just.

Blew my mind that you found the guy that you know that signed off in your cars and. Yeah.

I I got goosebumps when he was talking with the stuff.

I know and he's. Just asking questions.

He's going to ask a few questions and Yep.

Correct. You find out?

Shit. Yeah.

What else are you talking about? Sorry, David.

Go. I was just going to say just on

that code thing, I sent a photo around the the group today.

I was talking to a guy at a dealership and how you can identify cars, particularly Benzes are really good with that coding and it'll give you so much information.

Yes. And this guy I know not pretty

similar to my age and I know he has an Evo, Evo 6, Evo 5, something like that. Anyway, that wasn't there today

at the place that I did the work and and now I was downstairs and he came down and showed me the job and he said, oh, you've got the Hondas, haven't you? I said, yeah, that's right.

He said, oh, I said you've got the Evo.

He said, yeah, it's not here. I've just got the got the old

bend here. And I looked over and it was a

very quite down at the mouth 123 sitting over in the corner of the workshop. And I looked at it and I said,

oh, I said that's an unusual one.

I said that's not an Australian delivered car.

He said, how do you know? I said, well, I can see it's

only got a short badge on it. So it's a 200 badge on the

bootleg. No E no, yeah, I injection.

Injection. Yeah, I injection.

No, I injection badge. And it had the little D sticker

on the next to the number plate, like a like identifying the country. I said he said yeah, he said

it's an unusual 1. He said it's he said it's

manual. I see get out of town.

I sort of so again, confirming it was a new import.

I said was it the UK import? He said no from the VIN decoder

and stuff he could. We worked out it was delivered

right hand Dr new to the Netherlands in Gulf state spec.

So all of the Gulf, Arabian Gulf Arabia or whatever, all those little countries there and I think some of them were right hand drive. I think Bahrain is one of them,

I think. Is there some British interest

over the years and that was usually what determined right hand drive as opposed to left hand drive?

Yeah, but he can tell from this VIN number that it was.

Yeah, Norwegian delivered right hand drive Gulf state spec at with a tropical battery. Yeah, the the tropical code is 1

and Australia has that code as well, often because it it means bigger capacity radiators and fans because it's going to a a hot. Climate or?

Particularly a hot not that all of.

Australia's hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no. So if it's going to those

markets, yeah, they often spec the the cooling systems, you know, and maybe the battery's slightly differently, yes.

Wow, OK so this he, he has no idea how it ended up in Australia, but he, he's worked in the trade for quite a while and he said it came in in as a trade in and the best they could get a a wholesaler to pay was $700.00 for it.

Sounds about right. Yeah, he bought it for $700.00

and they've had it 20 years and it, you know, it's pretty down.

As I said, the paint's faded. The interior is filthy.

I said I saw your eBay the other day.

Can you not bring this car to work again until you clean it?

I said look at the interior. Oh, fabric.

Interior fabric. Seats.

Yeah. Fabric.

OK. Fabric seats.

Wind up windows? Yeah, no sunroof.

Base base Base spec base Base Base base.

And it's a actual 4 cylinder Carbi, yeah.

Actual 4 cylinder Carbi 200 he said goes better than most 230 easy he's ever driven. He put it he had to put a

diaphragm in the kabi. That's the only thing he's ever

had to do with the kabi. But, and I found myself saying

it out loud, I say, is it for sale?

You look quite aggre with the import.

Oh, I was. It, it, it, it had, I think he

said it had. It had the bunt alloys on it,

but they were. He said.

They were. From a later car, maybe a. 126

he said the the offset was. Wider.

They actually fitted them that they look great on the car the.

1-2 threes, the later ones and the 1-2 sixes did both have that design of bunt or Mexican alloy. But yeah, you're right, maybe

the ones on the S were a different size.

Yeah, yeah. So he, he, he commented that

yeah, they, they, they looked really good on the car because they were probably fifteens actually, rather than fourteens.

That's one of the things maybe yeah, yeah, but but yeah, I I was quite taken with it. No sunroof and two wipers like 2

of my Mercedes requirements totally out the window.

What do you mean 2 wipers? Oh yeah, you need a sunroof and

a single wiper. Yeah, yeah.

Like a single wiper. What colour is this Benz?

Oh. I said, is it called Manila?

Manila Beige, you said? No, it's light ivory.

A light. Ivory.

Yes, I know that. Yeah.

So it's it's yeah, colour of a Manila folder, basically, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I know with the. With the Palomino trim, they

love fabric and the fabric was really nice in it so yeah, yeah, I'll keep in touch with him about that.

Needs a little bit of body and there's a little bit of rust in it, which probably belies the doors and stuff, but they.

Can be rusty. They can be rusty old girls and

probably what it's like an iceberg, isn't it?

What you can see is probably what's there.

But anyway, that was interesting.

Just talking about the codes. That's what made me think of.

It well, the other thing Wolfgang said is he said, So what colour is your 190 diesel? And I said, oh, it's diamond

blue. He goes code 355.

He knows all the colour codes on fire.

In fact, in his in his, you know, stash of parts that he had, he had some old boxes and I said, oh, what, what are these parts? That was all the wood trim from

around the gear shifts that they would pull out when the cars were new if it had a small imperfection on it.

And he kept them all because. And right now, that's 20 times

better than what's in not coming around, you know.

But when they were new, he said, oh, you know, sometimes we'd have to change them for customers and things and, and yeah, he kept them. So I said, what are you doing

with those? You know, you know, catalogue it

all and yeah, probably end up selling some of it.

So I'm like, yeah, stay in touch about that.

Actually that was the only other thing this guy had done on this Benz today. It had a wood grain surround

around the the, the gear shift. Yes.

And he said I found that he said with no electric window controls or balance control holes cutting.

Yes, yes. And he said I am denied about it

through a few days. It was $100 on on eBay or

something like that. And he thought, what am I doing?

I've got to have it. Never got to find this.

Yeah. Exactly the part that I need for

that car. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, 'cause all the all the Aussie delivered cars had the the Becker radios which had the balance controlled cut out down around the gear shift, which is a bizarre notion, why they did that. But yes, that's how they work.

Now were the Becker stuff was that put here in Australia?

It was right. They were they.

Were they were? I'm not 100% sure on that.

I I think Wolfgang would know that.

Do you on the podcast, Edward, just call?

Them, they may have been fitted here, yes they may.

That stuff may have been done here because different markets would have demanded different radios and things and.

Already different frequencies. Yeah, different frequencies.

Exactly so. So that might have been a local

fitment thing. Yeah.

Also some euro manufacturers around there to try and get under the luxury car tax would make it yeah, an option.

So then you can choose the level of Becker you wanted.

But the was it the E12318 came out the 1st 318 that was priced like $10 under the limit had the speakers fitted to it.

Yeah, but low radio, yeah, Yeah, I have heard that.

They were very bare bones back then.

Even the Bends 180ES I think were similar.

They'd come in, you know, nothing, and you'd fit your or the dealer would fit the radio for you.

Yeah. But you could choose whether you

wanted to consider a scene. Yeah, that's.

A That's a really cool story and I like how he knew the the paint code just. Like.

Yeah. Yeah, knows the art, knows it

all. That's awesome.

Well, he's, he's, he's, he's one to to know.

It's that's, that's one of those people like, oh, I've got a question. I know who to ask.

They're always good to have those kind of people.

Exactly, exactly right. Yeah, definitely.

And then it made me want to drive my car and my car more.

So I went and got the 190 D after the nice drive down Sunday and yes, drove that all the way home and I was like, oh, what a good car. And I was like, I know the boat

that you came on. Were you talking to it all the

way home? I know who pre delivered you.

I know you signed off on your pre delivery you naughty diesel.

What else? Do does that make Wolfgang a bit

of an automotive midwife then? Kind of does.

Yeah, it's sort of. I mean, he didn't make the car

at the factory, but he. He's I was like, yeah, yeah,

maybe he's. Yeah, so, so pre delivery people

are called the the automotive midwives.

You've coined them Jim. Well done.

Call the midwife. Call.

The midwife moving on to tonight's topic, gentlemen, Now we're look, David and I had a bit of a chat earlier today and, and we thought we'd discuss the point of cars that hold a special place in your heart. Now these cars could be the cars

that you've owned, could be cars that you want to own, could be a could be a car that I went in that one time and I was like, oh, that was such a great car or, or car that you just admire from a distance that you've really always wanted.

Now I want to leave in your capable hands, gentlemen, of discussing what cars and and you got to give us some back story and and as to why they they hold us such a special place in your in your automotive heart of hearts.

For me, obviously, my my main 1 is my laser, which I still own, which you guys know, and I'm not going to go all the fool, though, but that it's it's it's the it's the noble state to for me. I drive it every day and it's,

you know, I've, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I would tell, I know, mark my words, I would sell everything before I sold that car. So that is that is why that car

is so special for me. But I I won't delve with myself

here to to hear from you guys. What are cars that are that hold

a special place in your heart? I kind of own them all.

There is an element of that. Yeah, I sort of haven't.

I mean, all of them are there for a reason and I haven't.

I haven't sold. I mean, I've.

Sold a lot of cars, but I haven't sold any of that core group for a long time. But there are two cars that that

I'm yet to attain. That's still a bit of Lucy.

You know, 1 is the Pagoda, which we spoke about before that, you know, the 60th Mercedes SL. And I think the reason that is

on such a pedestal for me is I had a model of one when I was a kid and I just thought the shape was really nice.

And I yeah, I really like cars of that era, particularly Benzes of that 60s era. And the closest I ever came to

the Pagoda was the owning the four door, you know, W one O 8, which was, you know, pinned by the same designer, Paul Ruck.

And yeah, same vertical headlights, same interior layout, sort of, you know, it's, it's very, very similar, just in 4 door form. And yeah, it's worth, you know,

a lot, lot less than the Pagoda. So that was my first ever Benz

actually when I was 19 at West one O 8.

And it's been a string since then.

But yeah, I think it's that as of as we've said before, it stems from, but you know, when you're a kid, what, what floats your boat or what are you exposed to?

And yeah, my model Pagoda, I used to love driving that around. I just, I just always thought it

was such a pretty car. And the other one I'm yet to own

is a Morgan Roadster from the well, yeah, she could say from the 60s, seventies, 80s, nineties.

They, they're still making them. So they haven't changed.

And that was because our neighbour down the road had one.

He worked for GMH Holden and he was in the sort of engineering department, so he would always be bringing the latest Holden home. I remember that seeing the

Camira when he had it for the first time.

And I remember this distinctly, like, OK, everyone in the car and I got in and I said, oh, this thing stinks.

You know it was it was the new blurry clothy smell and the plastics it it really did stink that Camira so that didn't remember it didn't the name of the community me but.

The supercar as was. Known.

Yeah, the supercar. But anyway, the wheels.

Magazine in my car at the moment that have that car.

Mack had a Mack had a Morgan. He's ever since I knew we knew

that family as kids. He still has it.

I believe they, they moved up to the country, but I believe he still has it. And yeah, I, I always ask him

about every time, you know, we might see him wants to be five years or something, but I'm always like, how's that Morgan going? You know, his was a 4/4.

So it was the, the frumpy looking 4 seater version, which is OK with the top down, but when the top's up, it's a weird looking top. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't

look particularly nice, but silver with the dark blue mud guards, very pretty car. And I just loved the swoopy

guards and the cutaway doors. And we used to play in it as

kids. And I just remember sitting in

that convertible in the garage down down the street just going, oh, you know, this thing's this thing's nice.

So I've owned other convertibles and you know, I still have the MX5 and I've had the MG and I had another MX5 and I don't know, maybe that's the only convertibles I've had but but never had a Morgan yet yet. Yet.

Yet, yet. Yet.

Yeah, probably the main 2. All the rest I own.

You know the cars I own? Yeah, I love them all for

different. Reasons.

Well, I can always attest to the car that got me into the mess that I'm in today. Metaphorical mess.

My my my first two cars contrary.

It may come as a surprise to some people, but we're Corollas, so it's not Hondas. 78 Corolla accessory nursing Corolla.

Then I had an 81 CS 5 speed KE55 in centre red with the stripey seats. Cool.

Which wasn't wasn't half as good a car as the 78 SE, but anyway, you've. Said that a few times.

You've said that. Yeah, it was disappoint.

I don't think it was a good example.

The 5 speed gearbox wasn't as as syrupy smooth and lovely and smooth as the AE 3035 yeah so anyway, but when I I came to a point in my life where I still owe my mother some money and well this is very personal. This story still owe my mother

some money and but I'm. Getting that Sonny David, You

still owe me for that bloody car.

Yeah. Yeah.

You know what? Just shaved Hungry Jacks.

I. Don't think Hungry Jacks were

the thing back then. Maybe not the and I put, and I

was going to ask my wife to marry me and I knew that I well didn't I wanted to be debt free before I did that.

So I advertised the Corolla, the the CS 5 speed and I got think I got 4 1/2 grand for it might have been 5 grand.

This is back in 1984 and I decided there were two cars that I, I wanted to replace it with. I had to, I paid it back, you

know, 1000 bucks or 1500 bucks, whatever it was.

And I had like 3 grand left. So it was either going to be a

Mark 1G which made from school it had, which was a cracking little car or a Honda Civic. And I'd always, always liked

Hondas and I'd always liked because they were little cars.

I think that's where my fascination started.

I was like, and there was a Honda dealer not far from where I grew up. And yeah, so I found out I

looked at a number of Golfs and I looked at number of Civics and I found I could get a better Civic for the for three grand than I could a Golf. The Golfs were all a bit ratty,

so I found this very low mileage bit like your Focus had 30 something thousand KS on the clock and it was a 76 three door manual in Highland blue, which is that light metallic blue.

So and I bought that. So that was my first Honda, and

yeah, that set me on a path to which I haven't been able to veer off, shall we say. That's the better choice between

that and the Golf. I know the Golf's worth more

probably now, but the the Civic is a better car.

Yeah, yeah. It was a great, so much fun to

drive and yeah, of course, great time in my life, fabulous memories of of that car and that time.

And then I sold it when I went into business to buy the a Ute, which is in about 80. 686 I think it was.

Bought a gloppy old or it wasn't a gloppy Mitsubishi L200 sport Ute which had Sun Raysia wheels and that was like a truck compared to the Civic to drive but yeah, sold the Civic to A to a young girl in another warning. Never seen it again.

Sure it's probably well and truly off the road by now.

BWH eight O 7. So yeah, I that.

And whenever I think I'm through the civic stage of my life now, you know, because they, they're tiny little cars and they're, you know, they're 4050 years old now.

One will just sort of pop up and you'll think, oh, gosh, I don't think I've including through that stage of my life.

Yeah. Well, someone asked me on the

weekend that, you know, like about that 380 that I've, that I've bought Saturday morning and they said, oh, you know, were you after 380? And I said, no, I wasn't after.

But I've always liked them. You know, I've owned them

before. My father had one for 10 years.

You know, that was, that was the first fence that he'd had.

And the, you know, cars, they earn a place in your heart for sure. So would I always, and I said

it's like going to a restaurant having a great meal.

Would you always go back there and have that same meal again?

Well, yeah, you might not be there every night, but but you're quite happy to go back there on occasion and and have that amazing roast or that linguine.

I'm quite happy to always own A380 Benz if it's the right car at the right price, you know, and at and at the right time, you know, just as you would be with a Civic, David, you know, someone puts a good Civic at the right.

If someone put a Highland blue, one of those in front of you today and said, oh, it's really original.

It's 2 grand, David. Well, would you buy it?

Of course you would course. You would.

You'd believe that for a time, and then you might end up rehoming it to someone, but you'd you'd certainly jump on that chance. Correct.

Correct though. Sometimes they, as I say, they

find you rather than going searching for them.

Correct, correct. Yeah, I can relate to that.

With our Camry V6, we had the BZV 21 Camry V6, full import.

Remember our dad was ordered a new car or wasn't a new car, but new for us at the time. And we had we had an old XF

Fairmont which was on its last legs.

And that that was to be mum's car because, you know, dad gave that to mom. And then we got this Camry,

which was only four years newer because the XF was 87 and the Camry was 91. And.

So the Camry wasn't new when you got it?

No, no. It was like, Gee, it's probably

10 years old when we had it, 2001, we got that car.

What did what did, what did he pay for that when it was 10 years old? $11,000 I remember I.

Remember 11,000. Remember the place in, in, in

Strathmore where where we got it from.

I remember the I remember up the hill and around the corner and there it was, was in the driveway.

Is that? I mean how much would that have

been new being the V6 full import?

They were pricey. They were they.

Were 30. No, they were in the 50s I

think. No, no they're not not they

weren't that much. They were very They weren't.

I actually looked that up. I don't know if I checked that

they. Were.

Yeah, if I checked that right, I reckon, I reckon I saw one in a dealer and it was something like 31 or 29, you know, 'cause you got to remember the standard Camry of that, you know, was like, how much was the standard Camry, David?

A base base model. C21 Yeah.

Like like, were they? Now mid 20s I reckon we put we

bought. One, was it 18 for a base basie

or something? Yeah, I'd say, I'd say that we

bought a waggon in 89 with an 87 waggon.

And it. Was $19,000.

Yeah, I reckon base bases were sub 20 or or around 20.

Therefore the top was about 31 or two.

Something like. That I think you're spot on Mr

Mr Bunting 31761. Hey, you fucking guy.

I don't. I don't remember, but I remember

that. Excluding government charges.

So yeah, 30. One so, so 10 years old to be

down to 11, it's, you know, it's a third of the price after 10 years. That's that's about right.

Yeah, see, ours was in white and I'm never being devastated because. And I was like, oh, you didn't

buy a Ford, you know, like because, because we had a Gemini before that. And then and then, you know, me

being a kid, I was obsessed with certain brands and.

Did you not want a Toyota? No, I, I like Toyotas because

because all of my grandfathers and aunties and all that, they all had Toyotas because Toyotas are a good car.

And and I was like, oh, we're being like, damn, we're just getting a Toyota. Like we're like we should.

And then I remember going in it and saying this thing felt so nice. It was well appointed, it was

good, it was smooth. It was.

It was. It blew my mind and how nice it

was. And this was an old car at the

time. And dad's like, well, it's

pretty. It's pretty, you know,

technologically advanced, Scott. When you put your, you select

your, your gear comes up on the the little plane on the.

Dashboard, yeah. I was like, that's, that's cool.

It had cruise control. It had, you know, air con that

actually worked it. Was and the graphic equaliser.

Too. Graphic equaliser Equaliser.

It had It could, apparently. There's much room in the back

seat for the three Jenai children.

No, there wasn't. But true.

But my sister would have been, what, 2001?

So she would have been 9797. What's that?

Four years old. Five years old.

So she was still quite small. She was in the middle.

She was in the middle. Yeah.

And I remember we, we, we used to play corners in that car and she didn't have a good time. But yeah, I just remember, I

remember how like it was, it was, it was beautiful.

Like the, the, the velour felt not like the whole car.

It, it, it was like, this is a nice thing.

And then I remember Dad launching at one time and I'm like, this thing flies like this.

It was way quicker than the XF ever dreamed to it it would have been. And it was, you know, it was

just, it was a nice car and it got under my skin to the point where I, we had it for that long that when I got my, my pee plates, it was one of the first guys that I, I, I went to drive in that car And you know, I would love another one.

You know, I, I think, you know, I after letting it go, I'd, one of my biggest automotive regrets was to, to let that car go.

Where did that car go? What happened to that?

We got rid of it, it went run. I took it and sold it on and

went to the records I think after that.

So, so yeah, it was, it was, it was pretty sad.

It was, you know, because it still started it never, it never broke down. The transit went.

Through 2. Trans 2 transmissions, thank you

very much. It was they weren't a very good

transmission. The early it was actually pretty

much the same as the as the four cylinder transmission, just electronically controlled and a few other bits and pieces on it.

So it didn't really last with the talk, but yeah, that car got under my skin and that holds a very special place in my heart.

That B6 Camry. It was it was, you know,

electric windows plot. We didn't have electric windows

in the XF. You know, it was all those

little things that, you know, and I remember I still, I could hear that car start from anywhere and be like, that's, that's that car, you know, and it looked good.

It had the little chin spoiler and it looked a bit sporty, double exhausts. And, you know, I was like, this

is yeah, it was a it was a classy kind of car.

It was a classy kind of car. And I always said to myself, you

know, one day, it's like, it's kind of like your kind of David, like every time you see one come up.

Oh, that's yeah, that's a bit of me.

I'd love to, I'd love to go back and, and I'd just like to, I'd love to drive one again. Like, I really would love to

drive one again just to just to, you know, be 18 year old me racing my friends in their Commodores at the satellites and beating them and, and their Falcons and beating them and them them getting very angry when we pulled into McDonald's for, for about for a while afterwards saying, oh, no, I, I, I didn't launch properly. I didn't because they were too

embarrassed. At least to a Camry.

It was, it was, yeah. Moments like that, they were

just, you know, it holds a very special place in my one, for the nostalgia factor, but two, because I think it got under my skin because of how good the car was in the end.

And yeah, I, I do miss that one. That's that's what I do miss.

Yeah, mine else I've been thinking the whole time It's it's. Not the M3 BMW.

I'm going to go no. Definitely not, I reckon my

mine. I need a a therapist.

Yeah, how is this going? So it's sitting above you right

now. It is.

It's just above my head. That was probably the one that I

probably love the most, the way it popped up and the way I bought it. For anyone that doesn't know, it

was 34 GDR. Yeah, probably.

Yeah, because it's so expensive now.

Like even if I could get one or something, I wouldn't want it.

Yeah, because it's so expensive to drive around.

And because of that, I don't think since then, like I haven't had a connection to another car. Like I'm happy to sell them off.

Yeah. Like even the two that I've got

now, the blade and the R31, I'd sell them.

You know I don't have that. Connection.

Like you'll never love again. Yeah, that's what I mean.

I need a therapist. Like your partner's passed away

back then and you'll you'll never love again.

You need to you need to open your heart to another, another lover. That's why I just keep going

through and wanting to try different cars and.

You'll see if I get automotively lost.

Yeah, see if I get that connection again, but I I haven't. So have you found anything

that's come close to getting a feeling like that?

Like like, I knew you were really happy with the EVO when you got that, but I, I think it was, it had something missing.

And I think you've said that before.

It was just a bit, it was quick and it was quick.

It was probably quicker than the GTR, but it probably was just had something like, you know, as you said, so something nothing has made you feel the same way. Yeah, I was missing something.

You know, would have been great to keep it, but that was when I had a really bad back and the seats were not great for that.

So I did have to let that go. And yeah, I mean, ever since

then, there's just been no car that I've really bonded with.

You know, I was happy to let it go.

The, you know, the Mercedes was great, but I didn't get a connection with that one really. I was happy to let that one go.

Was it 32? The connection wasn't there

because you were just like, it would never be as good as the 34 in your eyes. Or or or did did it ever?

Did it ever grow on? You I think it was probably

because it wasn't a great example.

OK. Of 1 You know it it needed, you

know it would have been better if it was a better example and was running perfectly. Then I would have been more

happier with it. You know, if I get my hands on

one now, I'd be absolutely wrapped.

You know, if I get a 32, I like the shape, everything about it.

And now with more of my knowledge, I'd be happy to tinker with it, you know, if I needed to.

That's fine. But yeah, I just.

It sucks. I just haven't had that

connection with anything ever again.

That's sad it. Is sad.

It breaks my heart. I just, I want that again, you

know, something that you just connect back with again.

But yeah, I haven't, you know, I've had, I've had cars even before the 34 GDR that I really enjoyed and was connected with.

Like even. When I if I had the my first

one, well, the first one that I actually owned myself was the four door R34 non turbo skyline. Before that my parents had they

had two cars and then kind of a third one that they were kind of selling and I was using that one for a bit and that was a EB Falcon that had done like head gasket twice.

And so I still kept going. It was good.

And then they got rid of that and they had a 99 Subaru RX for a bit. So that was nice.

And then I was able to put away a bit more money and get what I had then. And then 34 GTT, the black one,

RIP, that one got smashed. Oops.

And that one was interesting. I still had a connection with

it, but I always felt like it was out there to try and kill me. It was like the Widowmaker.

It's not the good connection to have.

I've got to. Say, yeah, but I was still happy

with it because it still had a personality, you know, it still had something. So did Christine in Stephen

King's, Yeah. Scotty, I believe what you're

talking about. It's called Stockholm syndrome.

You know it's, it's trying to kill you, but but you but you fall in love with it and you want to and you want to stay there. It was fine.

It had it had a personality and that was great.

I was like, it was just it's doing what it does, you know, it's spinning out and whatever it was trying to do when he was in an accident and nearly did kill me, but you know, it's it's saved me. If I was a little bit further up

than the other car would have hit right to my door, but it hit the front front quarter panel instead instead of me, which was lucky. And then during that time, the

34 GDR was already on its way anyway.

So I already went through that whole process of finding it and everything. And it was pretty much my first,

first manual car because before that it was all autos.

That was kind of, I already kind of knew how to drive manual, but I wasn't great because we never owned 1, you know, So it was just now and again. So I just had a rough idea how

to do it. So it was almost like the first

one I properly learnt to drive manual and drove it around and as soon as I got it, I jumped. As soon as I got it straight

home and stuff, it was already. Was it registered yet?

No, I still don't take the Vicroads and stuff, but I wanted to get it out straight away. I was like yes, yes, I mean I

want to practise because it was pretty much the very next day.

I had to go up to Brodie to get it to Brodie Vicroads and get it registered and, you know, just learning how to clutch and everything was like, Oh yeah, it's really easy.

This is great. I think that was the best thing

about it. It was the most easiest clutch.

It was just like perfect for me. Never stalled.

It felt like it was impossible to stall.

And it had its own kind of personality where cold mornings just didn't want to go into first as grumpy.

It didn't like cold mornings. So it will go into first for a

bit and then when you come to like a dead stop and you put in a neutral and you want to put it back into first, it'll take a couple of goes before it goes, OK, I'll go back into first for you. So I kind of liked that about

it. It was it was funny and yeah,

so. That's that's definitely the one

we're going to have to find you a car that you're going to have to build that relationship with the end.

Oh. I know I just I don't know what

what it would be now if. I'd.

Get back I'd. Buy you another one.

I think, I think if I could, I'd probably go for like a 32, even if it was just a GDST now back into a back into an import from the J pans and see if I can bond with that.

Yeah, I think you could bond with an ISA.

Oh, couldn't we all? Yeah, that was interesting.

I wonder if I if I could bond to a point that I would want to keep it, or is it a car that I'd enjoy for a bit and go, oh, this is great and then be happy to sell and move it on.

It's. A special engine.

That engine though. Very it is.

It is. I mean, you know, I like the

blade and everything, but if someone wanted it, like, yeah, I'd sell that, yeah. How much?

18 I'm. Gonna give you a 10.

Not that tempted. Depend what you do with the car

though. Like I've had cars where I'm I'm

happy to move them on, you know, but then there's others that you, you do stuff with it, go on holidays with it, you know, you know, it's what it represents. Like it it it's LinkedIn more

than than another car. Like even my Pajero, there's a

billion white Pajeros out there. But it where that car has taken

me in. You know, our friend Tommy gave

it a name Simpson, like a washing machine because he said it's an appliance. So Simpson has done all manner

of things and had so many good weekends away and towing the caravan and stuff. It's you know, it's just ever

trusty, reliable Simpson. I'd be I'd be very sad if that

ever breaks. Such would.

It won't. But yeah, I'd be, I'd be sad to

see that car going. Could I get another white

Pajero? Absolutely.

But it's not that one, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. And you know what else it comes

down to is how the car found you, Not necessarily you finding it. It's kind of how it found you,

yeah. I agree with.

That sometimes you go searching for it like we with the pajera, I went searching, I wanted a pajera, I was looking around for one and sometimes they just fall in your lap and you're like, oh, OK, then that was sort of meant to be, you know, and.

When you are searching, you get that feeling when you know you found the right one. Yeah, you're excited.

You're like, you're good. It's like.

It's something you're like, that's the right one.

And that's when you go in and check it out if it's still available. If it's not available, then

you're kind of like, OK, it wasn't the right 1.

And I had someone looking at one of the cars that I ended up buying. I saw it up there for sale at

the dealership. I was like, oh, cool, awesome,

you know, bothering dad, dad, dad, dad, come on.

I want you to come along, have a look, have a look with me.

And we go down there in the morning and someone was already looking at it. It was sitting there and they've

started it up and everything. I was like sitting there

waiting, waiting, waiting. I was like, he's probably going

to take it or something. And then he goes, Oh no, this

guy always comes in and cheques out and starts it up, but he's got no money. And I was like, oh sweet.

I'm in just. Come in.

Yeah, I come in. Take it through a test drive.

I go. You got mine.

Yeah, I remember the first car I ever bought was a Morris Minor 1958 Model 4 door for those playing at home.

And I went harvest with my school friend.

We were in year 8 and you know, we were desperate to get an old car to play around with. So finally we the parents sort

of said, OK, you can get one. And my grandmother luckily had a

a big garage that wasn't all used.

Well the cat, the caravan I now have was in it and the mini I now have was in it but there was still a bit of space and so it used to live there. Anyway we went and agreed to buy

it from this guy down at Jeff was his name down in Ormond Rd in Ormond and we did the deal on a Saturday but it was a week until we could pick it up on the car trailer.

You know which was involved my dad getting a car.

We had to go hire a car trailer, put on the put it on the back of full drive and tow it home and whatever.

That week was the longest week of my life, you know, because it was like, I want it now, I want it now, I want it now, I want it now. I'm so excited.

Anyway, the finally the day comes, you know, and I'm like like up at 6:00 AM and you know, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Dad's like just having my coffee

and he's flicking through the. I felt like at.

Glacial pace. You cannot be serious.

Come on. I'm just gonna have my

breakfast, you know? And he was just.

Swinging this out and I'm like I'm.

Dying inside waiting for this car.

So, yeah, it's an exciting time, you know, so those those cars, you know, that elicit that sort of response have a, you know, they, they tend to stick for a bit a lot.

Of stories like that. Yeah, that's always take

forever, don't they? This was deliberate, though.

This was just all right, Ed, come on.

Gotta get this car. No, this was like, I'm gonna

milk this. You know.

Watch my son in being in a frenzy.

Well I had to wait two weeks for my SR2 when I when I said yes to getting it for the roadworthy. Why 2 weeks so long?

Yeah, it took, it took three days to get it in and then he had to order the parts and then it took him another week to fit him. So.

And I'm just like, like, come on, come on.

And he then he called me Friday afternoon.

I'm like, yes, we're going. And you all jumped in the car.

It was a family event. And we, we all went and my

brother, my sister, my mum, my dad, and they're like bloody hell. The whole tribe is getting out

of the car and. Used to pick it up from the

cellar. From the cellar.

Yeah, it was a it was a family event and you know, it's but honestly the longest two weeks of my life.

I'm like, I think, I think in that, in that two week space, I read every SRT review online. I went, I just, I did every

single thing, you know, that I could have done that wasn't with the car. So that was yeah.

And again, again, that's yeah, it is a special car.

What about you, Jim? Oh, I was trying to think during

that as well, and I think I've got probably 4.

So 1 is because as a kid I was obsessed with the movie Herbie used to watch it thousands of times.

But I was really, really obsessed with the villains car, which I then eventually googled and it was a very, very low production. Sort of.

I think you could order the chassis in the body and then you chose your engine. So usually they went with a

winners V8. I think so and obviously you

don't have to worry about whether that's going to live up to my dreams because they're so rare.

You can't buy them anyway. But I just thought it was really

beautiful with the movie, especially like, you know, just being around in those different scenes in the showroom and stuff. It was just like wow.

And and then the other the other three.

So the first one is I think I've.

Whatever. Probably foolish reasons.

I've always been attracted to luxury British cars and for a while I was quite into humbers and things.

I was going to say I'm the Super snipe Jim.

Yeah, I'd love them, but. You're also sending me a lot at

the moment, Jim, the and I'm like, you sent me one the other day and I was like, wow, that's a bit of you, Jim.

That's that's a lot of you. Yes, but I think yeah, really

into those. But then and briefly, my uncle

had a couple of super Snipes in the backyard.

But one time I went to a historic race meeting and then I saw what I'm about to say and I just went, Oh my God, which was Riley RMB in red with the with the black roof.

And I walked around. The 1.5 or the 2.5?

02.52.5 I am I am. One of those not that long ago.

Oh. OK, I got to.

See you but. That was maybe.

Before I knew you. Yes, probably.

And I just remember when I approached it, I thought, oh, when I get around it at some point I'll probably be disappointed with the styling because I'm quite considered with my styling choices. And I walked around it and I

just couldn't stop doing laps. And I think, I think I suddenly

realised that there was nobody around and they'd left the window sort of open. It was a hot day and I took a

big breath in and went Oh my gosh, little bit intoxicated with all the Warden leather and all sorts of other cells and stuff. So spoiled.

And mildew. Yeah, all the all the rotting

spells as well with that, that frame, yes and recently true.

I think they had a drive day down to fill a piling which I missed most of, but I saw one parked somewhere and almost scared to hope to steer in a bit anyway.

The good news with those is they're not that expensive.

So I was having a look here. They're not that, as he said,

they're not that expensive. No, they don't.

Even need to go you could park it in your garage and look at it and. Exactly.

The olfactory sensors are very strong.

Very they are. Very.

And I think and then the the next one is not very logical.

I think it's more definitely an emotional thing I am quite emotionally attached to. My highest I think again that

sort of came to me through work. So when I first got my last but

I was very, very happy there. There was some people I worked

very closely with and we were going excursions and stuff together. And then they later for

different reasons, passed away. And then when I finally got a

chance to drive the bus, even though I should be honest, at highway speed is a bit scary, especially when it's windy.

It's kind of like being in a sailboat in a store really.

But it's really, really engaging to drive.

And I think because of that sort of having that personal connection sort of brings a bit more to it.

But also remembering like, you know, sometimes it's like going into reverse because one of my friends tried putting introverts at 100 kilometres an hour and it didn't work and things like that. So yeah, So I've been quite

simply. And then also when I was helping

some close relatives, they were sort of homeless, but they had some possessions with them and I was helping them move.

And I had just bought that from a school.

When school become, I just basically get rid of it.

And I just bought it from work. And I that instead of trying to

figure out how to move things in six or seven car loads, it was basically just one. And so that was really key, I

think with that too. And then the last car, as boring

as it is now. The other thing is my Ek, I

think one of the early memories I have with it that I really sort of cherish for some strange reason, was I think I'd had it for about a month. And I was driving home from work

on a Friday, of course. And there was a really bad Bush

fire, which meant taking a well bat from where I live, and which meant taking a long detour. And there was some, I think that

Felton Commodore land crews in front of me and they all stormed up off this sort of windy Rd until they hit corners.

And then I was sort of like veering going hello, like, please move, like get out of my way.

And yeah, it's a bit odd, but I talked it all the time and I've had, yeah, many good memories in that car and hope to make many, many more. And also I think I like the fact

that it's been with the Honda Club for so long now.

So it's been the Honda Club now for 22 years.

And I think it's sort of nice as I'm trying to continue that part too. I.

Think yeah, absolutely. And Jim, that's the car, if I'm

not mistaken, where you had the service book rebound, you know, like a new service book. Was that that one?

That's right, yes. So I filled up the original

service book and then, you know, I, when I was born, I think during COVID, I've looked up high mileage cars on YouTube and people were using exercise books and it's horrible.

And I think it's sort of tied back a little bit to, you know, again, liking sort of the old English cars and stuff like that. And I thought, well, if I'm

going to hang on to this car, I want to sort of, you know, again, enjoy that aspect of looking after including its history. And so that's when I went down

the route of having a new service book made, which was quite a process, especially during COVID, but I'm very happy with as a result. And yeah, when it gets to a

million KS in about 11-12 years time, it'll also add to it I think. Yeah.

Did the what does the garage you take it to, you know, strictly stamp the book every time? Do they know of the book?

Yeah. So when I yeah, they do.

So it was quite funny because the previous one to now I did sort of show them and then I think they forgot.

So I had to go and and they'd say, oh, you pay books.

Well, we can't stamp it. And so I go.

You mean? Oh, no, no.

That's. Really annoying, but then.

But then with this one, well, actually another time before I got the new book, which I thought was pretty impressive at a Honda dealer that is no longer a Honda.

Dealer. I thought, oh, I'll save them

some time and I'll put the service book on the front passenger seat, right? Yes, I do the same.

Thing, yes, yeah. Got got the car service and then

I got home and I went, they didn't stand it and then I rang them and I said oh you couldn't find it and I said it was on the passenger seat in the front. Yes, right.

And so, yeah, it was just, it was ridiculous.

But the new place, no, they're, they're, they're very particular about doing that. And when I went in the other day

for the, the spark plugs, I don't know his name because he's usually Internet for, I can't even ask, but he, he he's a bit like they got HD, I think. Anyway, he, he, he popped in and

he said, oh, I say all cars. Well, I got so excited that

you're cutting in today and I'm like, OK, just relax.

So, yeah, it's better than being like, oh, not you again.

So well, yeah, they say that, but they appear to be pleased when they say that. So I'm guessing it's good thing.

It's got to be Jake. You're.

Probably. Probably so, yeah.

But as I as I said, my my hope is that it'll be at half million KS by Classic Japan. And when it was quite funny too,

because when I read that they were moving the location to Cruden Farm. This was it's.

True. This true?

Yes, it is. It's.

December classic Japan's Cruden. Farm.

Yes, November, it's the last. September.

Last November, yeah. So when I when I read that, I

got quite exciting because I had only been to Cruden Farm earlier this year and I fell in love with Cruden Farm.

So I was sort of, if I can get to half a million by then, it's going to feel quite special, I think to me.

So nice. Yes.

Cruden Farm. It is a nice property, isn't it

Jim? Yes, because I went there for

the, what's it called, like the festival?

Yeah, IOM. CIOMC.

That one yeah. And just and I went with a

friend from from work and I was kind of because I hadn't looked into it, I was kind of expecting a bit of the Commodore Falcon Festival. But then when I realised that it

had everything and so much sort of like pre 1960 stuff that I usually miss when I go to events is I was very much taken aback.

So I am looking forward to being there.

Plus, I'm sorry, Manny J, that's much further for you, but it's significantly closer for me. So much easier for you.

Yes. I.

Better put that in my calendar right now then so.

It's last Sunday in November. I already boycotted it guys on

my goal so. Yeah, not fair.

Fair. As I said to you, As I said to

me too, next year we've got to have someone driving a Festiva and someone driving a TK Arena I think too.

Absolutely. Tis is correct.

Absolutely. To to boycott and say this is

this is for that, for that poor one guy you didn't want to let in last year. Yeah, well, I like your choice

of cars. I think.

I think the Civic that Ek of yours is is such a it's it's it's special now because you've had it for so long and you put so many KS on it. And I think that, you know, that

connection with that car. I think that's, you know,

personifies you every. Well, I think of Jim Barlow.

I think of this million mile Honda Civic.

So that's, that's, that's quite literally the first car that comes to mind. And I know you've got a whole

bunch of other toys, but but that one in particular is, is, is, is the, is the workhorse. And, and it's funny how

workhorses get on, get under your skin like that.

You know, the, you know, my, you know, my laser was only meant to be like a like a little car just just to get to get me around for a while because I actually wanted to buy.

Yeah, it's going to sound like a this is my burger.

So I wanted to buy an XR6 when I was when I was that in 18 and 19 and couldn't quite stretch to that.

And mom was like, why don't you buy, you know, something that's like, you've got a laser, why don't you get another laser?

And I was like, oh, that's a good idea.

And you end up falling in love with cars and they become, they become quite a part of the family.

And as you were saying, Edward earlier, you know, the things you do with them and the memories they make and, and look with you, with you, David, you know, you're getting your first civic because of you sold it to, to, to be debt free.

And then you build all memories and, and, and the same, the same thing with, with YouTube boys as well.

It's cars that there's nothing, and we've discussed it before on this on this show. There's there's nothing that can

do that like a car like there. There's no other object that.

Oh, yeah, yeah. During that time, we, we did

this. I, we took the Gemini.

Oh, you know, Oh yeah. The wrong with the Gemini.

You know, it's things, things like that.

You don't, you don't talk about that with, with your, with your washing machine. Oh, remember that time I I, I

watched? Oh, that Simpson twin.

Simpson. That LG direct drive that what a

machine yeah you don't you don't get that like it's the the cars are the only kind of mechanical like like your object or or product that you get memories like that.

You don't you don't get them with anything.

I'm like, I mean, I'm probably wrong.

I mean, a house is you build, your house is a home, you build memories there. But like in terms of like

another product, I, I just think there's you don't really get them locked up like yeah, yeah, unless it's a car.

There's definitely other products that do it, but cars do it better because you you move, you know, you're not the one place. Yeah, you're not static.

Like, you know, these things that I own that I've had forever and probably will own forever. And I'm like white, like silly

story. My, my grandmother had an

octagonal chopping board, you know, and mum sort of said, well, that that was their all of her childhood, you know, and she was born in 1947. So, you know, that's been around

a while. And my grandmother had it the

whole time, you know, right through to the 90s or 2000s when when her house got cleared out, it ended up at our house and it's been there ever since. And a few months back, it

snapped in half. Finally, this big, thick wooden

chopping board sort of just succumbed to decades of being chopped on and, yeah, sort of split in half or started to split in half. You know, I thought, oh, that's

the end of the chopping board here.

One of my parents friends, he's really handy with woodwork and he repairs all sorts of things and he's down in Geelong so I was down there doing something with the car, Mum said oh can you take the chopping board and drop?

It off. To get.

Repaired. So I did, and he's put this sort

of reinforcement disc in the middle of it and resurrected it.

But I'm fully on board with things like that.

Like this is just a wooden chopping board.

This is not, but it's sort of what it represents, You know, the fact that my mother's known it her whole life.

Her mother used it for the whole time.

And I just think it's wasteful just to just to we live in such a wasteful Society of throwing things out.

You know, this commercial just Kleenex attitude of use it and piff it. I don't like that, you know,

it's not sustainable. So a little bit of effort on an

old quality item like that and it's it's good for another 60 years. And I just think, well, I like

that, that, that that sits well with me, you know, rather than just going piff and going buying one from Kmart I.

Think I'll I'll add to that too. The other thing with cars, apart

from them being sort of like the wrapping paper and ribbon wrapped around a precious memory, is that each while the time that it happens when the dent to a panel is upsetting, later on you sort of don't want to remove that dent because you know how it got there. Exactly.

My Tarago My Tarago has a few dents around the body and my uncle was able to accurately tell me where.

All of them occurred. The one on the front left lower

panel, he said that happened when it was a week old in the shopping centre car park. So he was not happy because it

was only a week old. That trolley ran into it from

someone else. The one on the back left panel

is he never got a straight answer, but it wasn't there when it went into the mechanic and it was there when it came back.

And he thinks the big handle of the long Jack has gone dunk because it's sort of out on the panel and there's one on the front passenger door. And he said, oh, your

grandmother did that when we took, when we're down in Melbourne, This is the chopping board grandmother when we're.

At Melbourne. With the chopping board, she.

Did her and hit That's outrageous and hit the bloody Tarrago. He said he said we took her to

vote. You know, it was an election

time and she she just reefed open the door and banged it into the car next and that's how that went dead happened.

So exactly, Jim, like they're there, haven't had them dent repaired because they've kind of all got a story.

Part of the tapestry of its life.

That's right, David. Well.

Seeking books, Books and things do as well.

If you still kept any magazines or books and it's not 100% car related, this one. Neither is a talking board,

Scott. Yeah, but I just went over to

Mum's. I was trying to find a certain

book that I left there but I couldn't find and I found my uncle gave me these when I was young.

Woah. Take off, take off magazines.

Wow. And they came in a in a binder

and I got a bunch of the others and I just started flicking through and I remember that's all I used to read and going back through it, I remember everything.

I go, Oh, I remember that. Oh, I remember this picture.

I remember reading this. They used to sit there and just

go over it and finish it and then they go.

Back and start. Again, yeah.

And go over it and read it and look at it all again.

I was like, oh, that's cool. That's so much cool stuff.

And I was like, yes, that was. I walked past a mix of Taronga

village today and there was a big poster in the window. 25th

anniversary of Harry Potter. Well.

Wow. Which made me feel even older

than I actually am because I can remember queuing at Chadstone waiting for it to come out with my.

Daughter. I don't have it.

Every. Edition I was in primary school

when the first movie came out and as a primary school they sent the whole they booked the whole of Epperware Shopping Centre, Village Cinemas and each like class went into one of the one of the things to watch Harry Potter.

Wow. That's pretty good.

That was amazing. That was a really cool day that

was. Never got that at my school.

I. Remember, I remember that

happening and yeah, it was, I can't believe it's that long ago. It's it's this.

Is the book being different? But yeah, all right.

There you go. But yeah, we'll have to revisit

this topic at another point because I think it is time for the car quiz, Which David. Prince has finally written.

Is is it the? Colours one David.

Is it colours? It's the colours 1.

It was a. Popular request and ties in

nicely with Pride month, I thought.

All the colours of the rainbow we've got tonight.

Fantastic. Yes, so.

Matt, are you going to score for us?

Mattie, I've. Already got it all ready to go

for you Mattie of. Course you have.

I'm impressed. OK Car Talk quiz Jew I put the

wrong date because it was. The last week.

Question number one, it's 1984. You.

None of you were alive. Oh no, that's not true, some of

you were. It's 1984, you're buying a small

Australian produced sedan. You have 9 colours to choose

from, but your favourites to choose between a Tumut Blue, Centre Red, Golden Wattle or Big Bad Orange.

What are you buying? Orange.

That's olden Gemini. That's throwing me of big bad

orange. What the hell?

Dave, was that did you say, Jim? I said Holden Gemini.

Oh no, I like what you're thinking, but no, I don't think they're oh, actually, they had some good colours too, the Marinelli red in there. I.

Did so you? Said 8082, correct. 84. 84 Sorry

84. 80. 4 sedan. A small.

Australian produced sedan 9 colours but the favourites that you wanted to choose from. This is talking from real life

experience. I've got to say Tumit Blue,

Centre red, Golden bottle or Big Bad Orange.

Head. I think I heard.

Golden Chimaera. Incorrect.

Matthew. Matthew is.

It the Ford Meteor. No, no, You were just trying to

use a bit of insider knowledge there because you know that I did look at a Ford. Media, I know you did look at a

Ford media, but I was thinking too like the meteor came in some bright colours so. And interestingly, reading the

question now, the colour has been mentioned on the show tonight. The.

Car. And the colour which I didn't

realise so I read the question. So Scotty think.

Australian produced. That's throwing me right off.

In 84. We manufactured lots of cars in

Australia in 84. Small too.

It's small. That's also, yeah.

Small now. The colour quiz isn't going so

well. All going really well depending

which way you look at it I suppose.

Off to a flying start. Scotty, any idea?

Did we produce any? Were any Corollas made here at

the time in 84? Yeah.

Can I Can I lock in Corolla? You can get the point.

There we go now. Done.

Well, that's. Good.

The Toyota Corolla, the double X to be precise, because the double XI mean big, bad, orange, orange, but I would have had the tumour blue with the blue interior.

Yeah, blue on blue. That's nice.

Sort of smooth. Nice, nice, that is.

It's Smurf on Smurf that colour. Smurf on Smurf.

That's correct. That's correct.

OK, Question 2. What do Volvo's Marina Blue,

Volkswagen's Flipper Blue and Essence?

Oh. They're all the same colour,

correct? Well done.

They're all dual axe shade number 13979 and they all were big tubs of paint that motor producers in Clayton would dip the cars that they were producing in.

So yes, they called them different names for the different cars. I.

Was called Marina Blue till the other day when I looked it up.

Good question. Yeah.

Did they with that? Were they?

Was Australia their only country that sold them in those colours?

Well, it was a Dulux colour, so I'm pretty sure it was.

And I think Nick Wheeler said the other day about the honey brown, that was it. Oh no, it was.

It was a bunting track. Yellow was a Dulux colour and

that was specific to Australian market, wasn't it?

I believe so. And it was on the Peugeot 5-O

fours and the Renault Sixteens and Renault 12's I think.

But it's, yeah, it was only on the Australian assembled ones as far as I'm aware. Yeah, well.

I mean old English sheepdogs do you know, do swim so they could have gone from. Country.

To country, true, true, but these were definitely, it was they're definitely Australian paint that was part of the way to get their content up. So yeah, they're all Dulux,

Dulux colour code and the V number would the the the plate would be on the car finished in Dulux auto acrylic or auto something or other. But yeah, they were the name.

Different manufacturer called them different things, but it was the same colour, yeah. Cool.

So the baby blue we're basically talking about, if you think of it, yeah. I know the colour, yeah, it's

called. Combi or a Beetle baby blue

Volvo. The locally assembled two 40s

came in the same colour. Question three If you walk into

Zagami Ferrari at the moment, you can order the option of a specialty paint called Giallo Tripolo Storato.

Nice. Pronunciation Use the the Ed Ed.

It's grey incorrect and that and you jumped in too early because that wasn't what the question was about.

Well, you know, I'm allowed to jump in whenever I like.

You are you are Ferrari offered this option?

How much is it to tick that box? Is it grey by the way?

Matthew. No, it's no, it's actually

yellow. Oh, OK, Matthew.

Is this when they actually just for some context, is this when they paint the the the badge on the car?

No. No, the please choose that

colour to choose that colour. OK, I'm going to say.

Special order colour. Matthew, I'm going to say we'll

do. We'll do closest too.

I'm going to say $25,000. OK.

Yeah, this is closest too. You're quite quite correct.

That's not the price. I think that sounds, I think

that sounds a bit too cheap, Ferrari.

Now thinking about it, I'm going to say it's probably more like 58. 58 for Scotty Jim. Pick a Pick a price.

I'll say what? Would you pay?

I wouldn't buy a Ferrari so I'll I'll pay 46,721. 46,721.

OK. Ed, I think you're last.

I think I know, but I buzzed in early on now.

Oh. That's right.

You're out. You're out.

You're out. Right.

OK. Be how honest I was there, Alan.

Yeah, the shenanigans. There's no.

Shenanigans. I've been.

Here to witness no shenanigans, are you Jim?

You get the. .0. Jim.

Here's the point. How much was it?

The word giallo tripolo storata, so that is a 3.

It's the please in the name. Giallo is yellow, tripolo is 3.

Strato is layer, so it's the three layer yellow Pearl.

How much was it? $43,000 plus GST.

Which brings. $47,300 option. Quite a bit.

Quite a bit. That's more than my bloody

Fiesta. Correct for the the paint.

For the paint, yeah. School check.

Edward, Scotty and Jimmer on one, myself on 00.

Anyone's game? Anyone's game?

Bonus question actually with this one here.

So you can, might, might be adding one in what small sport imported. I'll give you this time what

small imported sporting sedan from the 70s was only imported in Mimosa. Yellow.

Ed. Ed.

The Triumph Dolomite Sprint. Yeah.

Correct, correct. I always wanted to drive a

Dolly. Have you any of you guys been in

one? No.

They were cracking car. I've worked on a few.

I've never driven one, but people that had them back in the days. Yeah.

I do know someone that had one more recently and hated it.

Never. Never.

Why did? They hate it.

Because they spent a lot of money on it, or a lot of money.

They were quite a quite a they were 4 valve per cylinder, I think one of the first. 4 valves, yeah, they're sort of

complex in a. Very complex to get right and

when they when they were good and new they were great.

And they were. Good, yeah.

However, as they aged and this person spent a lot of money and never didn't end well. Question 4.

What was the first Japanese car available in red?

Oh yeah, after the exact model or just brand?

Oh. No, it was specific to a model.

Ed. Ed.

The Honda S600. I'll give you give you half a

mark. M.

Scott Scott, Honda Civic. No.

Jim. You saw Jim.

Honda S800. Incorrect.

Well, actually, that's tricky. Can they?

It's 100 didn't. You.

You have half a. Point.

I'll give them half the point. I'll give them half.

The point? Well, you've got to get

something too, because half of it try.

So what's been said? It's a Honda.

Yeah. So you said S 800 and you've

said S600. I've seen both 6 hundreds and

eight hundreds in red. Yeah.

And 600 was earlier, so that's why I went with that.

OK, but they also had the S Was it a 500 or 400?

They did a small like a smaller engine version which was like super. That's true.

They did. That's true.

And I'm assuming it's that one, but I don't know.

I. Got in, not quite in.

Do you? S500 correct?

Is that a .5 or is that a? That's that's a one.

The others get .5 because they got 100.

Sounds good. And we got the air bonus.

Question. 75 Really. Bonus question why was it the

first Japanese car sold in red? Why?

Why had no other cars been sold in red previously?

Ed are. You.

Ed. Why are you all so disappointed

when I buzz in? Because it's very.

Close. It's very, very close.

And and I I. Sensed pause.

The Japanese emergency vehicles were in red and they didn't want to get confused. 100% correct. And your.

Ramblings and. OK, then go moving on, Edward

Bouncing. The.

So Ichiro. Actually went to the government

and said I want to all the best sports cars in the world are red. I want to build my S my Honda S

cars in red too. That's why they change.

Not an unreasonable request I think.

Not an unreasonable request at all, and.

Luckily he did, because every other, you know, Japanese.

Manufacturing they. Can now sell red cars.

They all followed. Suit didn't they they?

Sure I I wouldn't have a red MX5.

It'd have to be white or or mariner blue, true.

Who wouldn't even have an MX5? Just kidding.

Maybe you'll create memories with it, Scott.

Maybe it's what you'd need. Maybe it's your lifelong

partner. Hey, I was just, I was just

poking fun to fix my own wounds. Don't project your lack of a

love life. Yeah, that's what I was doing.

Question five, Question 5. We're actually, Yep, your

classic magazine. Which was a really good, a

really good classic car. Magazine.

In the UK in the 90s, didn't look, didn't it hasn't survived I don't think, but it went for some years.

It was really good. Agreed.

They once did a road test comparing the Bond bug and the Honda Z600 for no other reason than what Matthew Matthew the colour because they. Because they were you could get.

Them in like a. Similar.

Colours I'm assuming because. Like, is that that orange, that

vitamin orange? Yeah, the the the the slice of

cheese which the Bond bug was. Yeah, correct.

It looked like a wedge of cheese, didn't they?

That's right. Correct.

So who gets the point? There because.

Ed got the colour. And you got the reason.

Yeah, why do you get to finish the question?

Ed said. Oh, that's.

Half a. Point H you're.

That no, that's shenanigans. I think point.

Five to HR point. Five to H There you go, Edward.

Question number. 6 Which Aussie company withdrew a.

Colour on one of their cars due to the high number of accidents that it was involved in. Oh, that's a good question.

Aussie company. Aussie company.

It's true. A.

Colour, Matthew. Matthew I.

Want to say Chrysler like? Chrysler, Chrysler, Valiant,

Chrysler. No, it wasn't.

And I'm, I've got to say, Matthew, I'm.

Disappointed. OK.

Hey, that's fair. That's fair.

Oh, did you say Jim? Jim got in.

Yeah, Ford. Correct.

That's why I was going to. Say good.

So in 8680. 7 the KC and then the KE laser was.

Well, obviously they it survived through two generations, but it was withdrawn from market because it was over in the IT was over represented one colour. Colour or bonus point.

Is there any idea it was cold. Oh, I got in there, David.

Notice what did you hear, David? David, what did you hear?

I I. I.

Didn't. Hear I I didn't hear who that

was. Was it Jim?

All right, Jim, I'll let you as a less frequent.

Guess I'll let you have your. Ceiling dress.

I'll say black. Incorrect Ed.

Ed. I'm going to say it was.

Grey correct it was. Toledo Grey, 358. 60 it.

Was. Basically the colour of a wet

road and people couldn't see them.

Oh OK interesting. So what did they do with them?

Do they just paint? Them again or like no, no, they

just. Withdrew.

It as a make it anymore OK they just stopped.

Cancel culture your car doesn't get.

Crushed. No.

No, no. But yeah, these days.

Yeah, if you see one now. If you see it, they take it off.

Here they take. It off here and they just crush

it. They wouldn't even.

Give you another. Rest in peace Toyota starlets

with airbags, correct? Question 7.

Race tracks around the world. Have long been.

Used to lend. Their names to car.

Colours, yes, BMW individual were famous for it, isn't it?

Oh yes, oh, Oh yes. Scott, I I think, oh, OK, I

haven't finished the question, but go for it.

I should have let you finish the question Scott.

I'm going to say the BMWA. 40. 6M3.

Incorrect. Keep going with the question,

David. Should have let the question get

going. BMW.

Individual were famous for it. Two other examples include

Nurburgring Silver and L Magno, 2 points.

Here on offer what? Cars were these featured on Only

know the Silver? Only know the Silver, not the

other one. Nurburgring silver rings a bell.

Green hell magno. I'd never heard of that.

Which is also a corner. Well, the.

The name that Nurburgring is often.

Referred to Nurburgring silver. Ed.

Was Nurburgring. Silver.

Audi incorrect. Then I don't know no one else.

Could you please read the colour the second?

Colour. Let's say the second.

Colour again, please. Yes.

Green hell magno. Don't Google.

It Jim, I'm not giggling it. I.

Find. Out I was going to.

Actually. Well, I'll say.

Jim. I was.

Going to guess Nurba green silver for Porsche.

Incorrect. Matthew.

Matthew. Now.

Now I know. Vauxhall and Opal, they did a

Nurburgering Wise edition on the Astra, but they might, but they might have done, they might have done something for that as well.

So I'm going. To go Opal.

Incorrect. Yeah.

And for the? And Scotty, do you?

Know what it actually is? Yeah, the silver.

Yeah. OK, I know the green 1 though.

But I know the silver. Well, hang on, why aren't you

saying it? Cause 'cause you're out, you're

out, yeah. I'm out.

OK, No good. For either of them.

OK. All right.

Nurburgring silver is a Ferrari colour.

A good friend of the. Show David Day has a 550

maradillo in Nurburgring. Where is that car that's sitting

in the UK still? Yes, I bet that looks.

And green. Hell magno.

Is that? Vibrant green on the Mercedes AM

GGT Oh right yeah cool green hell magno how would.

Wolfgang say that. Grown is green I think.

Hell is still hell. And I don't know what Magna is.

Question 8. Talking of Magna.

See already there. Does anyone know the name of

the? Rally Art Magna.

Hero colour Matthew. Matthew.

Oh God, show myself. On the foot now and.

I know it's red, but it's. It's.

Not is it? Geez, is it rally Art Red?

Oh, no, it's not, Ed. Good guess though, Ed.

Is it? Lava red.

No good. Another good guess.

Because lava. Because also red with.

Bits of orange and buttock? No, no, I think Andrew.

Andrew Eaglesworth. Would be screaming at.

The. Radio every week.

We say that, don't we? He's always.

Screaming. Poor Andrew.

Do you have any idea? Any idea?

I'm. I'm Jim.

I'm. Just going to guess and say.

Demon red OH. No, no.

Good guess though. No, it's flame red.

Flame. OK, Red.

Nearly there. It's been a long.

Haul hasn't. It that's been great.

What Aussie company famously had colours in the?

70s. Bondi Bleach white, Vashi Blue

and Vitamin C. Matthew.

Matthew. That'll be valiant, correct?

That's what I was gonna say. Chrysler in their.

Valiant. Range in their charger.

Range Vitamin C Vitamin C is a cool colour.

Limelight Awesome colour. That's some, really.

Cool colours. I always I always thought Bashy

Blue was a good a good name. For a colour question 10 What

about am I blue, hairy lime and peel me a grape?

Oh, Matthew. This is another Australian

manufacturer. In the 70s.

Matthew, it's. A Ford Incorrect.

Ed. I think.

It's Holden incorrect. Now I know.

Disappointing. Disappointing, disappointing.

But. Incorrect as well.

Know it now, I know it now. Jim and.

Scotty The. Ball is in yours.

Yours. Courts am I blue hairy lime peel

me a grape. That's I'm not asking a question

here. That's no good, no.

I missed the first answer so I. Don't want you to repeat.

Them all and give me an easy answer.

Yeah, it's it's, it's the only other one that.

We haven't mentioned really the. Of the pretty much, yeah.

It was Leyland. Leyland, yeah.

Yeah, a 76 colour, I think it. Was right.

I think they're available. In various cars.

Marinas you could get yeah, yeah, Marine that green and there was a pill mere grape in the.

TC I think the coop. Am I blue?

I think was a mini colour as. Well, for a while.

Colour. Anyway, there you go.

Maybe a club in colour? 10.

Colour questions, they were great.

We should do that again. Who's the?

Winner out of that match. Scotty won.

Jim and myself are on 2.5 and. Tonight's winner on a grand

total of 5 is Edward. Oh, Edward Bunting weren't he?

Didn't think I'd win that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you all. Thank you all.

Anyone you want to thank Edwards?

Just Harry Lime. Harry Lime Done.

Very. Very.

Good. I'd like another colour question

that's. A fun.

I like that topic. That's good, that.

Was great. That was that was awesome.

Do that again. I'm a fan.

Excellent. I think.

That's a quiz. Quiz and I.

Think that's AI? Think that's a podcast,

certainly. One, thank you all.

Let's do some plugs, Jim. Anything you want to plug?

I'm just getting out and driving your cars before the price.

Of fuel goes up with all the international.

Conflict, yes, correct. Yeah, very good advice, cars

look. Top tip, fill your cars up.

Trump said that there's a ceasefire.

Now. Well man, I don't even know what

to believe. Anymore.

Trump knows everything it does I.

Believe everything that he says. Scotty the golf tip of the week.

Oh, golf. Tip of the week I am.

Going to go with, oh, did I do this or no, maybe I didn't do this one. No, I don't think I did.

So I went to the driving range because I've been hitting the driver really, really badly. And.

What I figured it out is because with the driver, you're not kind of hitting down on the ball. You want to hit up to hit up on

the ball with the driver. And so now what I do is I have

the T and the ball and then I have my driver not right behind.

It it's probably about. 5 inches away from it.

So now that changes the swing and obviously.

With the driver I'm. Kind of tilted a bit because I

want to be on the swing of going upwards, so now with that I'm actually hitting more up on the ball.

So I'm getting more high. And I'm not topping it anymore

so it fixed fixed me. So maybe if.

You're topping it a bit. Give that a go.

Don't have your club so close behind the ball?

Have it a bit further back and it might help with your swing instead of getting where you're constantly hitting down on the ball. Might.

Fix the swing. For you to go yeah nice in the

end part of your swing and not in your down part.

Of your swing. Is what I'm trying to get at.

Yeah, great tip. Works for me.

So give it a wheel Ed Bunting's got.

Cars for sale. Oh I do.

Who wants a? Dual cab Triton with the Pajero.

4M41. Motor and an amazing new leather

cover on the steering wheel. Because he did.

That's currently at 8600. Drive away, we have a Mazda. 2.

Manual O9 with one O 8 KS on it. Beautiful little car and we have

a Ford Focus Sr auto hatch with 33,000 KS on.

Price to be determined pending roadworthy inspection.

Oh, any fire on the Triton at all?

No. Not yet and the E3. 50 is.

Just getting that rear bar painted and then that'll be on at 8 1/2 and that's your O 6 update with the seven speed auto and 119 on the clock. Lovely.

There you go, there's a nice array, something for everyone there drive. Away.

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holidays? Next Friday.

OK. When do you?

Start finish Friday. Are you kidding?

What? Damn it.

Now I'm pissed off. I've.

Still got to go in for a couple of days of professional.

Learning, but you know. Still, I get an extra like 2

days of two or three days being at home.

Professional Learning. Scotty.

Yeah, I'm not. Going to talk to you for the

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Scooty. Yeah, no worries.

I think that's pretty much, I think that's a podcast.

Gentlemen, good work. Love your work.

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Thank you again, Jim, for coming.

On. No worries.

Thank you for. Having me it was great fun.

I'm just I was a bit. Disappointed that you didn't ask

any more questions about Sorry I ever white David, because last time I heard that I was screaming in the car and I got it. I'll keep that in my file.

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