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Singh. How are you, gentlemen?

Really good. Thank you.

Yeah, doing quite well. Thanks.

That's good, good, good to see all your lovely faces.

We'll do some car updates. We'll go around the room first.

Alan has been our local man going to Sydney.

How was your trip in Sydney? And we'll start with your and

new updates. Well, car updates, at least at

home, not a lot of change. The car's just kicking away.

I, I've been filling up more often with some premium diesel, diesel at the, at the local United just because one has been cheaper than the other the other places.

And two, it's right as I get out of work and I think I felt a little bit improvement on fuel economy because I think it's one of the best places to actually test your fuel economy is when you're doing a consistent trip and why to work at home from work is very much you know, most unless there's some kind of accident on the road is very much a similar drive and I'm a couple of tanks in I'm I'm seeing a difference.

I was actually curious to try out Scotty Doe's system of the mobile fuels from 7:11, which also offering increased fuel economy. The problem is they'd exclude

diesel, so. I was like, yeah.

I can't, I can't test the DMX. So I'll, I'll run my own

independent test on the United Premium.

So in the meantime. So are you living in Sydney at

the moment? No, no, I was just there for

three days for work last week, so that's why I had to miss the show. Unfortunately.

We got a rental, rental car. They gave us a lovely Suzuki

Swift. New model or the old model?

I'm just having a look. It's hasn't when?

When was the last model change? Quite recent.

Yeah, a few months ago. Yeah, so I reckon it's the it's

the previous model to this then, OK, we're my Co worker was a bit upset that I didn't have wireless CarPlay and I thought, look, they're buying the base model cars.

Like, you know, I don't think we're gonna get wireless CarPlay, unfortunately. But it was a nimble little

thing. I think we we used it for all

three days. There was a now I'm not gonna

say much about senior roads because I don't live there and the people have to suffer. You know, I'll let them live in

peace, but we, this is partly user error.

My colleague was driving and they put in the wrong address and we were like, I think our workplace was about 15 minutes away from the airport and we were on the road for about 30 something minutes before, you know, I had to recheck the address and thought we'd definitely go in the wrong direction. We've gone on the other side of

the city and paid many a tolls, gone through many a tunnel which you can't get out of once you're on, You know, once you're in it, you're in it for the long run and they're going to take their pound of flesh in tolls. Luckily, companies paying, you

know, it was the worst thing, but it was, it was, it was an involving thing. I think we filled up at the end

of the three days like $10.50 worth of fuel.

It's. Pretty good.

Dollars and. Yeah, $10.50.

Yeah, I think, but my colleague was actually hoping that we'd get away with the well, the line's still on full, so we just hand it back as it is. And I, and I think if you hadn't

have done that, you know, little detour that cost us, you know, probably another, I'm going to say 60 KS or 70 KS, we probably would have gone away with, yeah, no fuel at all.

But again, companies paying. So I don't see why we wouldn't

fill it up. And then I dropped the rental we

had in Scotland off. They had a tracking system that

could tell how many litres of petrol were in the tank.

They reckoned, I know, I know. I wish I've asked more questions

about it. But because it turned out it

had, it had half a tank when I picked it up and they said, well, you just want to return it with half a tank, you know.

I thought, OK, well that's, you know, approximate.

So I returned it and she's and they, they came out and checked the car and checked all over. That was all fine.

They said oh, it actually has two litres less petrol in it.

Than when you when. You picked it up.

I said, really? They said, yeah, that's fine.

We, we, we won't charge for the two litres, you know, like that.

That's fine. That's pretty close.

You know, I said, yeah, it is pretty close.

You know, I thought how do they kind of tell how many litres of petrol in the thing? But anyway they.

They they, they put like a one of those to see how deep water is, you know, like sticks, like they, they put a stick in there.

You have stick fuel. I know maybe they can, they've

got telemetrics or something to, you know, they can track the car obviously, and they can track the mileage and I, I suppose they know the economy the car's getting if they know all that sort of stuff. So.

But yeah, two litres of petrol difference.

I thought, well, what are you complaining?

That's pretty good. Pretty close to water.

No, come on. Yeah.

And I feel like unless you get that same information, it's hard for you to be able to say, give them back the.

Car the same amount. Of fuel yeah exactly right yeah

so we just your. Car doesn't tell you how many

litres it's got, it just tells you the range of how many kilometres it's got. So like, that's true.

That's ridiculous for them to even conceive to say that.

Yeah, I mean, at least I didn't try and charge you.

Next thing we know, Dave's got a little thing on his credit card.

And the fuel charge, was it 5 pounds, 15 lbs service fee, 10 LB administration fee? Yeah, just.

Yeah, what, what what they did do they take a £200, you know, security deposit and then they refund.

But the, the, the exchange rate had changed.

So the four that turned out to be 414 Australian dollars I think, OK, off my credit card. But then they only put like 397

back like because of the exchange rate had changed the time we were we're there sort of thing.

So yeah, that's. That's pretty crappy because if

they process it properly as a refund you should get the correct amount back I feel. You would have thought so, yeah.

Yeah, it's a bit odd, but yeah, that was probably the the only car adventures. The car didn't have much power.

I didn't expect it, you know, I think it wasn't, it wasn't going to win US any races, but it was for two people.

It had enough room for the luggage, you know, the AC was cold and, you know, it kept us comfortable with wide wired car play, you know, in music and. Jeez, man.

I wasn't the one confiding the colleague was because, you know, I was about to bring out my USB cable from the the back as well.

It wasn't a big deal. It was more that, you know, the

navigation was again the user error.

I would say somebody putting in the wrong address.

I'm not pointing any fingers, but it wasn't me, you know.

So we, yeah, we had a pretty good trip.

And it's nice always to, you know, I was expecting probably some kind of Hyundai, but also now I know that, you know, Hyundai's are relatively more expensive than they used to be.

It's Hyundai or similar. Yeah.

So these days I'd be because I was expecting maybe an MG.

So I think, I think taking the Suzuki was a win versus an MGI.

Would happily agree with you. I rented an MG as you guys ones

really know a few a few years ago and I was like, there's MGZ air space model. It was probably 1 of the worst

cars I've ever driven, but it was it was a bucket of misery.

Like it wasn't a it wasn't a enjoyable car at all.

Like after about an hour, my back was hurting because the seats were like rock hard. And like I put I put almost 1000

Cajuns guy that drove 500K from Sydney to where I was going on 500K his back and I was like, this is I'm going to just.

But The thing is like I I had ordered like a Rav 4 and I got upgraded to the MG. They said I got upgraded.

Yeah, No, you didn't. Wait, what?

Joke yeah, so yeah, so so much for an upgrade.

But anyway, so put 1000 KS in it and it it I mean, it worked, but it was the IT was struggled to go up hills, that's for sure Anyway, moving on. So that's the limit of your

updates. Screw you, go good with you.

I wish I had good updates, but Sunday I thought, you know what, I'll do a little bit on the car on the I31 and have a look.

You know, I thought I could do a few things on my own before it gets to the transmission part to lift it on there.

And I thought shouldn't be too hard because I got the little tool to remove the spigot Bush. So I thought.

No dramas. First I had to remove the flex

plate and I thought, well, that's easy.

I've got the, I've got the impact driver.

Took that off in like 10 seconds.

Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I thought, yeah, it's nice, get

the tool on. At first I was figuring out like

how the hell does this tool work?

Had. To quickly have a look on how

the hell this thing works. Got it in there and started

doing the whole tightening thing and it just slipped straight out. Like it's not gripping on the

Bush. I'm like oh God.

So it's not working. Tried a few more times, still

not working. Have a look at the video of the

guy that uses it that used it on his R31 and how it worked.

And I don't know, worked easy for him.

He's just showing how use like a adjustable wrench and really tight and as hard as you can. So the prongs open up really,

really wide as hard. So I did that as hard as

possible. Like there's no way I couldn't

do it any more than that. And then slowly winding it, same

thing, just nothing. Just keeps going all the way

through and doesn't grip the stupid Bush and pops out.

And then I was thinking the bread technique, but supposedly it doesn't work on the auto spigot bushes.

It doesn't work on those ones. So that means grease isn't going

to work either. I was.

Did you Justin WD. No.

And I was having a look at other things.

Everyone's just like some people are like what they've done is welded a bolt to it and then use one of those slide hammers and stuff like that. I got none of that.

Like yeah it might work, but I don't have anything like that.

Just going to bend, you know, a grand on a welder and get it all going. Yeah, I know.

And before you know it, like you know, 4 hours has passed and there goes the whole day wasted stuffing around on this one thing that I couldn't even get off.

So yeah, I was pretty pissed at the end because I wasted so long and I got nowhere. Stupid thing.

So I couldn't get it off. And then I'm thinking like, do I

create a thread on it and then I can put a bolt in there and then get something underneath and pry it and just get bang with like a crowbar, a pry bar and pop it out Or I don't know, Some people have like cut it out. But you got to be really careful

with the Dremel. She don't want to hit the crank

case or anything so so. How thick is it?

A high Bush. Or was that sorry?

Is it, is it a high Bush or is it just a solid doubt that you're trying to get out It's. It's a hollow one.

Because if you could. We've lost Rob.

The government shut him down. He was going to tell us a

secret. Yeah, shut him down now he's

gone. No.

Oh, Rob. You see, he's going to come.

They were listening. They were listening, Yeah.

And you, he was going to reveal the secrets.

And my back. Oh yeah, he's back now.

He's. Back.

My Vodafone. Fantastic.

We we thought the mechanics union got you.

They're going to shut you down. Before you got to tell me the

secret. And then you left.

If if it's actually, if you actually drill it out a little bit, make it thin enough, there's a like a a little hardened chisel that you can use it's radius and you can paint it out. Sort of, yeah, I might have to

do that. It's a pain, but yeah, you can

do that. Yeah, I wish it was like the

because the manual ones are a brass one.

That would be a lot easier. Brass is easier to there's a

softer metal, but this one is the steel.

So you used a similar tool to remove your Welsh plugs and stuff like that out of your block?

OK, I was looking at that. My wash plugs look pretty good

actually. You probably haven't got the

room to put a really long handle on it, I suppose.

No, I think my next step is I've got to get a better trolley Jack, I think so I can get it up a bit higher because I can't really get enough under there and leverage to to try and get a decent tool under there to to work it.

So that's probably what I'll need to do.

Yeah. And that's pain in the butt

spent like, you know, 70 bucks on this tool.

It's meant to take it straight out.

Waste of money, Tool's a piece of shit.

We hate that tool, yeah. Don't buy one car.

'S a top tip. Don't buy it.

Yeah, that's my updates. Nothing exciting.

David, would you like to hit us up with your car updates?

Sure. Not a huge amount, although

Saturday I did drive I think different cars, which made for an interesting back to back sort of comparison given that all sorts of different things. I had to move help one of my

sons move some furniture. So I borrowed a a van from a

mate and he's got a few little Peugeot partners which are the current model ones. They're they're all pretty new

with 22,000. This one had 2020 thousand K's

on the clock, but it's only 18 months old or something.

So I had that in the morning. Really great little van to drive

terrible stop start system in it.

And I've since read a report, a review of it and they said exactly the same thing. And interestingly, no view

vision out the back. The earlier model had a had a

the revision mirror was actually the the camera, the the reverse camera on all the time, but they deleted that in the next model for some reason. So you don't have that, but

you've got reverse camera when you're going backwards, but you've only got the side mirrors and and sensors.

Then from I dropped that back and I left the, my 93 Accord down there the the half million Kia, which is just like a old trooper. It just starts every time you

turn the key recently, thankfully, like a 90s Honda should and sails along down the Dandenong Bypass and Danden Bypass and stuff. Great car.

Then I got in my son's VF Calais waggon, which I just got back from mechanics because he's only had a few months and needed the torque converter done. So we've had the torque

converter done. Now it's quite a common thing

with them evidently, but that's I can see why they were very popular that that's a very smooth, syrupy, lovely thing with that 5 speed auto, very, very nice car.

That one's only done 115 K. So we were quite surprised that

it needed anything done to it, but it did sadly.

But it's all good now, so we'll move on.

Then I drove the ZRV home from from where we where we had to drop that off and again, quiet different, different smooth the rides better than the Commodore. The Commodore, the calories have

that, I think they're in a 19 inch wheel on them, so pretty harsh in the suspension. I thought compared to the ZRV,

the ZRV was much smoother and then of course I needed to go and do something else. So I thought, well, I might as

well take the N1 for a drive so. And then I just, you know, fell

in love with it a bit more every time I drive that thing so.

So basically I drove everything on the weekend.

Pretty much everything in the drive, yeah, yeah, I didn't get the Z or the Scamp started, but and the Integra's tucked right down the back of the garage, so I couldn't get that out easily.

But yeah, it's pretty much that pretty much was interesting because I mean they're all they're, they're all good and they're all totally different and suitable for different purposes. And, you know, some range in

value from a few $100 to what, a few $1000?

So it's interesting and just made me a bit reflective on the fact that, you know, cars are meant to do one thing, aren't they transport you from 1A to point A to point B, but they they do it very differently and they do it and it and it doesn't have a lot of effect on that side.

That's a bit over generalisation.

I was going to say it doesn't have a make a lot of difference how much you spend because of course it does.

But you don't have to spend a lot to get a perfectly, you know, adequate car to do that purpose.

That's why we love all cars, isn't it?

Correct. Absolutely.

Updates with Rob. So Rob has joined us.

How are you, Rob? Good.

Thank you. How are we all?

Good mates, good, thank you. Updates with you buddy.

Not much to say mucking around. Pali's sports bar is Amarok so

I've got a powder coated one for $20.00 for a brand new sports

bar. Someone's putting a kennel be on

his car, so he just took it off and he didn't want it.

Fair enough. So I've got a a powder coated

black one now. It looks like it looks like a

Pan American now looks real good that I've got a whole lot of quite a whole lot of Mercedes newsletters that were actually made for the staff who worked for Mercedes Stuttgart.

So I came across this guy, coincidentally, whose wife walks her dog in the dog parked behind me.

And we're talking about cars because, oh, my husband's got cars too. And, you know, he used to work

for Mercedes. I go, oh, yeah, that's good.

Anyway, you knocked on my door today.

You got me all these magazines from the 1970s for every model that was built right through general newsletters from the 1970s, eighties and 90s. That's so cool.

Yeah, so in English. Or German.

English. OK, so the Australian or English

speaking Mercedes Benz employees?

Yep, cool. Yeah, so like I said, I've

probably got about, I don't know, over 100 little monthly magazines, newsletters. And he also gave me valve spring

compressors like a so you could actually get to the valve springs decompressor and pull out the collapse or whatever and pull the the valve springs out from the old, the the original W 11 twos which I've got. Yeah.

It's just amazing. Wow.

And he goes here, you can have it.

And he didn't even know I had AW112.

I had to show him. So we started talking about cars

and whatnot. So that was good.

And then because certainly he knew someone else that I knew that worked at Mercedes, and he was actually the foreman and the guy that I know was The Apprentice.

Yeah, so I was. Here in the dealership or

Mercedes Benz Australia. Well, this is the thing it it,

they had to do a lot of changes within the the the corporate structure to for Mercedes to acquire the old Mercedes lanes.

I think it used to be the Mercedes Benz and Melbourne.

They were the distributor for for many years.

Many years so between lanes and Mercedes Benz and Melbourne, Mercedes Stuttgart, Germany actually acquired the dealership. So it was actually a Mercedes

run dealership. Yeah, OK.

Yeah, so he's told me the whole story and how he moved within the organisation and then used to train all of the staff on different things. So he's just been right

throughout the entire organisation.

So I said you need to come on a Car Talk and tell us all about it, guys. No way.

I'm not gonna I've it was it was work.

You know, I, I, I'm, I don't want to talk about cars anymore.

That sort of thing. They say he got he.

Got burnt out by them. I think he got burnt out.

Yeah, Yeah. So there you go.

So that, that was pretty interesting.

Apart from that, really haven't done too much else with me cars.

No, that's it. That's it.

You'd probably even have some. It'd be, it'd be interesting,

like knowing, you know, you Robin and you David, like you've probably got some mutual friends you wouldn't even know about that you've dealt with in the industry at the 100%.

Yeah, at the time. So yeah, it'd be it'd be it'd be

really cool to to do it. OK, so I know this guy.

Does anybody know this guy? Yeah, you guys again, who you're

off throughout my Toyota days who have moved on around the world and ended up working in America.

Some of them actually got offers to work with Tesla in the early days, wouldn't. And like my mate in particular

and he, he knocked it back and he ended up just retiring.

But yeah, it's amazing the different people over the years you get to know throughout, you know, the automotive industry and whatnot. Yeah.

What did you do with Twitter? I was in quality control.

OK. So at the Grief Parade engine

plant, back then, it was only the engine plant and pressure.

So all the part, all the they'll knock down parts and what are CKD parts and all that, that used to be assembled at the engine plant and the panels used to be actually pressed and then taken to Dandenong where they used to assemble the cars.

Yeah, yeah, back. In the 90's, The late 90s.

Oh, sorry. OK, Late 80s, early 90s.

Yeah. OK, 878889 I think it was and

1990, I end up getting a package out of Toyota and I end up going into R&D with Kodak in Australasia.

So something totally different. Away from cars, but a good man

is a that I get to do some of my trimming.

He's in his late 70s now, but he worked on the trim line at Toyota for 40 years. Oh, wow.

That he's got rolls of 76 Corolla CS fabric in his shed that, you know, if you needed, you know, an Avalon Gxi, you know, fabric insert, you know, he's got it.

And he's got just this rolls and rolls and rolls.

He makes BBQ covers out of them, you know, whenever he can, whenever he needs spare fabric. He said I'll never use it in

all, you know, in 100 years. But but I've picked up some

really cool and especially guys I know with Toyotas and they've said, oh, you know, I'll never get the fabric.

I said, what if I could get you the fabric?

Oh. What do you mean?

You know where would. You find it, I said.

I know a guy you know, don't We go rummaging around in his shed and we we pull out all sorts of amazing bits and pieces.

So. Amazing.

Corolla double X, you know, the quilted sort of trims and stuff, you know the CS XS and the double XS and stuff.

So, but yeah, but yeah, he knows a lot of people from Toyota, obviously having been there, you know that that long.

Yeah. So, yeah, a lot of guys moved.

I like the mechanics that I work within the the quality control department. We used to actually bring an

engine off the engine line and tear it down.

They actually dyno test it and then we tear it down and see how it all wore out. We'll actually get engine blocks

and cut the engine blocks up to see, make sure that the, you know, all water galleries and all the galleries are all where they should be. They're not too close to the the

actual barrel itself and or the ball.

Used to do a whole lot of different tests, destruction tests, all sorts of things. Yeah, it was pretty good.

Yeah. It's just that, yeah, sort of

you move on and things change. We used to be, back then, we

used to be on strikes more often than not back in the 90s, eighties, everyone was striking for, you know, someone lost their motorcycle helmet on from their lockers.

So that's that's it. We're walking out.

The ladies lost her, you know, didn't get her apron or uniform given to her. We're walking out.

Yeah. Oh, there's stories of that.

Like they promised us coffee machines and they were delayed.

So we walked out. We didn't get a coffee.

Machine. Things like that, It was just

crazy. And also.

Those, those are the golden days.

I talk about forming a union at work and everyone just looks at me funny. I'm like, no, you know, it's

about us, the people I want, I want carbonated water in the in the bar fridge that we've got in the warehouse.

Until we get the carbonated water, we're striking.

That's why they don't make cars in Australia or anymore.

Is it precisely why they don't make cars in Australia anymore?

Used to go jet skiing quite often.

It's striking. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's go jet skiing.

Oh. Far out.

So like, did you guys actually legit strike that off like that often because of just things like that?

Quite often, yeah. Yeah, quite often.

You know who? Would who would decide that

would? Would that be the union or would

that be like no? Shop steward within the certain

line production line or you know the press plant.

Press shop or the engine plant. You know, someone you know, was

even if, you know, I don't know, a safety issue might have cut, you know, be arise and and that wasn't addressed, they'll walk out, you know, and it and it didn't take much to walk out.

It really didn't. They used to walk back quite

often. Yeah.

So you would you would have been at the time of like 3 early 3S engines you would have been. 4A. 4A's, yeah.

Yeah, that would have motors, yeah.

That's really cool. So I used to, yeah, a lot of the

free S and 4A motors I think. Then later on I think there's

4AG or something like that and. Yeah, 4 AG the twin Cam ones,

yeah. Later, yeah, so it was.

But then again, there was a lot of overtime too if you wanted it. Yeah.

Well, they had to work overtime to make up for their lost work through the strikes, didn't they?

See, Rob wasn't doing that. He was off Jet ski.

He was as soon as I said, as soon as there was like a sniff of a striker, he was gone. Oh, we're all gone.

There was just way. There's half a dozen of us.

We got to know each other. Hey.

I'm. Going to jet ski?

Yeah, I'm going to jet ski. Yeah, we're all going jet ski.

It used to be good. There's about five of us used to

jet ski at the, you know, Toyota days and and yeah, every time there's a striker, we'd be out jet skiing you.

Wouldn't have to go very far. It's like grief rains like right

near Williamstown Beach. You'd.

Say no. Yeah, it's right.

Williamstown Beach, you'll. Tell it's going to be a big day

when all the cars in the car park had the jet ski in the Yeah. Already.

Already we. Used to do that.

Used to talk over the clock in start strike.

And if we didn't strike, we'll go after work.

That's funny for you. Yeah.

So that that was that. And then, yeah, the storm and

used to also go out on strikes and all sorts of things and all things used to go missing out of the stores and stuff like that.

And people used to pill for things out of the stores.

But the, there's some guy used to actually, I don't know how he'd done it, but there's a whole lot of parts that weren't used and they couldn't sell them or put them into the warehouse to redistribute them. So they smashed the

distributors, smashed carbies, smashed manifolds, and then throw them in the skips. And guys used to get all that

stuff before they smashed them and used to take them home and sell them on the trading post or whatever.

But yeah, so stuff like that used to happen.

Yeah. Fly, all sorts of things.

You can get flywheels, you know, we used to, we used to make the whole cat, whole engine. Yeah.

So that was good. Yeah, it's funny, like I was

speaking to a few people who worked at Ford and yourself, Toyota and Holden, and I'm still yet to meet a guy that worked at Mitsubishi, but you know, or, or a lady for that matter.

But you'd hear some stories and you're like, yeah, no wonder why we don't have an automotive dispicure anymore.

Yeah, I worked with a guy and and his dad worked for Fords for jeez, 50 years, you know, until he until he retired and he, he passed away not too long after that.

But he he would quite literally say, hey, that's my car going through through the line. Give him a pack of cigarettes

and then double coat it full of, you know, out of, you know, body dead there. And they'd make to put extra

sound ending in it. And you know it it.

It was currency in inside, inside the, inside the workplace and. It's like a gaol.

Quite literally, yeah. Pack packs of cigarettes were

were currency, you know, and we, yeah, he, he was telling me some stories and and then and then another guy, I, I, I know quite well. He's he's human.

Do you guys remember Crazy John? The guy that did the the phones?

Crazy John? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

John. What's his name?

Johan Yeah, yeah, so crazy John used to work at Ford when he started so so his parents and my my friend, he's also named John used to work at Ford together. That's how they that's how they

met they became they became really close friends, but just just just some of the shenanigans and and things that they they they could do and and you'd be like fire out like, you know, this is this is exactly the reason why Fords.

But all these companies do not do not build cars here anymore.

But it is sad in a way. But you know, that's that's

that's that's the way it is. But yeah, it was I just I found

it fascinating that crazy John, the the phone mogul, like, you know, the multi multi millionaire was working on an assembly line at Ford as one of his first jobs, which was pretty, pretty cool story. But anyway, moving on.

What about? What about character to you any?

Oh, mate, had a busy week, but my, my Lasers are runners.

They're pulling the other gearbox that I just put in out and he's going to rebuild my my original gearbox because it's better than the one that went into it.

Oh, that's annoying. Yeah.

So he's like, he's taking it apart.

The gears are fine. They're actually pretty good.

It's just the bearings that are pretty worn and the diffs and the diffs mounted. So he's like, we got to get you

another differential or I can try and fix this one.

So then I, I was like, well, I went on a rabbit hole and I found some because you can buy LSDS from like they came with the factory LSD in, in America and in and in Japan you can get them with the factory LSD. They're about 480 bucks second

hand, which is not too bad. But then again, second hand

you'd like I've done my lesson with my $150.00 gearbox didn't

go down too well. So I'm like, well, what do I do?

There's there's another company called M Sport who who is M Sport or yeah, along those lines.

And I put in there in the standard GT forum, you know it like all people with SP 20s and things and they're like, Yep, you put you put this one. It's a little bit more pricey.

Well, a lot more pricey, I should say, but you'll never break it and it's brilliant and it and it will be it'll make your car essentially like the driveline wise, pretty bulletproof. So I'm still deciding if I want

to spend that money, that money to do it or just see if Ratner can can do that. Yeah.

So he he so that's the plan. So so he's going, he's going to,

he's going to rebuild the gearbox.

He's pretty good at doing stuff like that.

And then the gearbox was always a really nice shift.

Like we never had any issues shifting it, just bearings in it. We're just tired.

Syncros all right. What was that?

What's that the? Synchro's.

Yeah, Synchro's perfect. He's he's had a good look at his

eyes, like yeah, he's like a couple of them are a bit how you going? But he, I think he's going to

open up the other one and, and just make the best one out of both. So he's going to take bits of

the other one and he's going to suss out the LSD, sorry, the, the, the differential in the, in the, in the other gearbox and see if that one's any good. I don't think it is.

I think that other gearbox is, is pretty mounted to be fair.

So, yeah. So that car will be out of

action for a little bit until that gets gets done, which has been OK because I've been dropping my other cars.

So I'm dropping the Typhoon today, which has been, which has been nice. It's been, it's been good to get

that out. First time I've driven it in a

while and there's some I drive out.

I'm like such a easy relaxing, you know, big cruiser of a car.

You can just leave it in 6th gear everywhere and it just doesn't so, so was dropping, dropping out today.

I drove the Fiesta yesterday. Yeah, it's just been

alternating, alternating through the cars, which has been nice.

This cruise, I'm trying to sell this, this bloody diesel cruise.

That's the, that's Stephanie's old, old car.

I've decided that Facebook Marketplace is the worst place to sell a car. Yeah.

It quite literally is like I've, I did the whole boost thing for like 10 bucks or whatever it was just to like get it back up because it's been online for over a month and I got a whole bunch of responses. Can I read you a few gentlemen

before you get into tonight's topic?

Sure. This is the type of people that

I've been dealing with. Is it available?

Yes. No.

Response. No response.

There's been about five of those, some couple, some like I've been I've had a whole bunch of scammers.

I've had I'll give you 1000 bucks and I'm like, no.

And then they just leave me in red whole.

Is this available? The one was yeah, I'll.

I'll come tonight. Yeah.

Can I, can I come see the car? Yeah, sure.

What's your address? Give the address.

I didn't give my actual address. So like everyone was like a few

doors down and then they said yeah, I'm coming and.

And I'm like, yeah. What time?

No response. But but my favourite is from a

guy called Emmanuel. Hi, Matt.

Is it still available? Yes, it is.

Where are you located? OK.

Are you interested? Yes.

Can we come see it today? Yes, you can.

What time suits? Would you like the address?

He he responds by changing the the theme of the the chat to cats. Right.

And then you'll change the theme to cats.

And that was it. I'm like, so you're obviously

not interested in wasting my time.

So that's just a select handful of the ones that I've been, I've been absolutely dealing with. And I'm just, I'm beginning to,

oh, here's another 10. Is it still available?

Yes, location too far. At least, at least they didn't

string you along. Just out of curiosity, does the

AD have the rough area that the car's located?

Yeah, it just says Melbourne. OK.

He's like, I'm sick of you. I like, I'm sick of just dealing

with idiots. Because because I wouldn't be

surprised even if you've done in there, they still ask your location. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, that's been, it's been a bloody pain in the backside.

I know Steph wants it gone. I want it gone.

We'll see how we go. At this point, it's.

Now unregistered, isn't it? Yeah, as unregistered, Yeah.

So as soon as someone comes, they were going to take the plates off because, you know, you can't leave a car with no plates on the side of the road. So take the plates off and in

the traffic it goes. So that will be.

You know, I was looking at kids undercover, mate.

That's not far away. Yeah.

I mean, at least you get the tax deduction for whatever it goes for. You get a tax deduction?

Or is it donation? Donation.

Yeah, correct. Anyway, it is what it is so.

Have you, has Mr LMCT Edward Bunting expressed any interest in the car or? Is he absolutely not.

No, he's not sorry. He would give me about $3.50 at

the end of this week when the boost thing's finished.

I'm going I am planning on getting a permit and driving it to Grey and then saying, you know, what it gets is what it gets. So we'll we'll see how we go

with that. But been quite a.

Reserve Maddie or no reserve? I mean, I'd like, look, I'd like

to have the money to pay something back.

That was a family event. So if we got 15 to 1700 bucks,

I'd be happy. I think that I think that's

pretty fair. I mean, it's a cheap car at that

point. It's a very cheap car.

Yeah. Which is surprising because like

everything in that car works. The air con's brilliant.

And it actually, the air con's ice cold.

You know, it's, it's mechanically sorted.

It just needs tyres essentially for roadworthy is what we're told. And I was, I was hoping to put

tyres on it and sell it with the roadworthy.

But the body's mounted because people could just keep hitting it. Yeah.

You know, and I've been very transparent in the ad.

So, you know, there's, there's, there's a Ding on, there's a Ding on the bonnet. There's, you know, people scrape

the sides of it. You know, I've, I've been really

transparent, you know how the car is.

But yeah, even then I said, you know, look, there's plenty of money spent on the last service. You know, I spent, we spent

almost 2 1/2 grand on it in the last service.

You know, we had only shocks, new brake, the whole brake, the whole front brakes were like it's a, it's a cruise.

All the callipers were leaking and mounted and new discs, pads, callipers, shocks and full service turbo in that pipe because that was that was stuffed new engine fan because cruises and they always brake. So and then it's got a brand new

sentry battery, which cost me, you know, 300 bucks.

So, you know, it's it's had money spent on it.

It's drives really, really well as as a shoot for, you know, the money we spent on it. But yeah, kind of kind of pretty

annoyed to be honest with you. What?

Does a clean one go for like wanting real new rego roadworthy? Similar because it's a diesel as

well. You'll probably look at it like

I could. Probably the best one I've seen

with like lower case is 7/8. But but yeah, I'm, I'm, I mean,

I'm, I'm asking not much. I don't think like I had it up

at 2950. It's now sitting at 2.

And you know, I, I, I think it's, it, it's a 2.

It's a 2 grand car all day. Like it's it, it, it, it should

be to somebody. How many grammes?

Sorry, how many KS 220? I think so 2:20 or 2:30.

I want to double check that, but it's it's low.

It's definitely low twos Yeah like it's you know it it drives incredibly well actually for for what it is.

So yeah, that's been the bait of my existence for the last jeez, two months run a month and a half, two months pushing close to so if I can get this gone, that'll be good.

And that's, that's one less registration and and one less well, insurance to worry about. So we done with that.

Anyway, moving on. Sorry, gentlemen, I just wanted

to have a just a general chat about about the automotive, the automotive landscape. I always like to keep up to date

with V fact and see what's selling and see what's, you know, what's happening. And the the industry's quite

interesting at the moment for the fact that the the latest kind of cars that are in the top ten, the Chinese cars which are really creeping up. A friend of mine, as you know,

has been to the show just recently bought a 8 month old puggle H6GT really well specced. They drives quite well actually,

you know has a 360 camera Honda CRV.

Are you listening? You know it's it you know it's

has a lot has a lot of stuff going forward heated ventilated seeds. I mean, the, the reason why

they, they sell so well is because they put all this money in for not much price, right? Do you see, like we joked for

years on this show, we've joked for years, there are Chinese cars. We're all going to be driving

Chinese, but we are currently and we're choosing to we like about H. You know, Dave was like, no, I

won't be. But like about GWM is in the is

in the top 10MG is in the top ten.

You know, these, these are these are brands that that are really taking over. Do you think that we're just

seeing the start of it or do you think they're going to kind of ease off? What's what's your?

What's your What's your take? Can I, I'll start.

I, I, it's just the start of it. It's not going to ease off,

especially when you see things on, you know, we've got YouTube where the, the, the Japanese are buying Chinese cars and tearing them down to see how they're made, making them so cheap.

Wow, that's crazy. Be it electric cars, but they're

still doing that. And apparently the, the, the

technology that Nissan's using and, and, and even Toyota for their battery technology is way behind what technology they use the Chinese are using for their batteries.

So who told you that? Sorry.

Who told you that? Well, this is just stuff that

I've seen in the, you know, various different forums on the on, you know, various chats and and Youtubes.

Yeah. So they're they're more

reputable, sort of like presenters and that.

But yeah, so. That might have come across a

bit accusatory. I was, wasn't.

Didn't mean it to sound like. That no, no, no, no, but and you

don't, you don't know, you know, you're taking at face value and you and you sort of look at what you know, you see on YouTube and whatever with the different presenters and and hosts.

But there's that. What's his name that Viking

electric Viking. I don't know if you've ever

heard of him. He's quite reputable and he's

he's always talking about all the new electric cars that come out on YouTube. So he's got a various comments

about the cars and what they're doing with the battery technologies and whatnot. And apparently the platform that

the Chinese are using a a is is A1 size fits all platform.

So they can build the cars, the components there's less components so they can build the cars cheaper as well.

So there's a lot of advantages in the way they build their cars. Not they're not as efficient,

some of them aren't as efficient, they're not as good, but they're cheaper to build and building to the masses.

Yeah. So there's that.

And then you hear about Volkswagen shutting down 3 factories in Europe. Yeah, so.

And that was on the news today, so.

Well. Put it this way, I've got I've

got an interesting stuff for you.

So looking at the V facts from this time last year and and and now so the the top ten last year were as follows.

Toyota, Mazda, Ford, Kia, Hyundai, yeah, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, MG, Tesla, Nissan. So this is going back to yeah,

to to last year. So basically MG is the only only

one only Chinese in there this year 2024 Toyota, Ford, Mazda, Kia, Mitsubishi, Hyundai Isuzu MGGWM, Toyota, Subaru, Volkswagen, Nissan, Tesla, BMW. So Mercedes Benz BYD Cherry is

pulling after Suzuki if he was next and an LDV.

So you know, they're really, you know, it's a big it's a big jump from from from a year ago. Like they're they're really, you

know, coming up the ranks and that that's a scary, that's a scary thought that if the the Japanese are taking apart like, you know, cars from China like to see how they're doing it so cheap. You know, it's kind of, it

reminds me of when you know, it's it's Mercedes bought LS4 hundreds and taking them apart to see how they could be undercutting them, you know, and this is not too long ago.

This is so yeah, it's going to be an interesting, interesting way forward. And you know, like looking at a

grey wall motors car from 15 years ago, miserable, like not a good car. Now you're looking at me like

holy crap. They're chalk and cheese like

like they're they've they've the right at which in in which they've developed their cars from then to now is just insane.

Like I like I haven't seen it like the Koreans whenever this quick, the Japanese whenever this quick.

Like like again, you take the technology.

I get the technology as advanced, but like this has just been on some other scale. I, I don't know if they're, I

don't know if they're going to be stopped.

I can't make sure all the top designers and those designers bring the engineers and the rest of their teams with them.

That's true. You know, so yeah, the, the

designs are looking fantastic these days compared to what they looked like, you know, even even 5 or 6 years ago, they looked shocking. Even Hyundai had shocking

designs, you know, and, and, and now you look at them and they go, Oh yeah, they're not, they're, they're quite nice.

So, and they've got this, they've got the engineering, they've got the technology, they've got CNC machinery and they've got AI now and they've got everything to, to do the development. Then you know, everything, all

the crash test safety stuff's all done digitally, like, you know, electronically with, through different design packages. So they're going at a similar

pace, if not advanced to a lot of other auto manufacturers.

And the, the traditional auto manufacturers keep, they keep on talking about keeping things in house with the new technologies and new manufacturers, whereas the traditional ones outsource everything. So they're looking at insourcing

stuff as well. So and and you you lose your

quality when you outsource. Yeah.

So that that's the other thing. But yeah, interesting times.

I, I remember talking a few years back now when the show was in its early days, there was a video sort of like an auto show and there were some guests that were, they were very clearly from a Chinese manufacturer and they were just doing their thing. They get into the car, you know,

take a photo, measure something, take another photo, you know, move the steering wheel up and down, make sure you get the range of measurements and all that, just to see exactly how you know the car can function and then try and replicate that as best as possible back home. It's, it's, it's like you said,

it's been a real advanced pace considering that that time we were discussing it. Now we've got, you know, the

majority of EVs available here are pretty much Chinese manufacturers, Chinese companies, Chinese made.

And I imagine it's a, it's a bit easier getting up to speed when you can commit, you know, human rights abuses and, you know, kind of make people do what you need to do without worrying about unions and strikes a la Australia, you know?

Hello, Rob. Yeah, yeah, there's, there's no

jet skis in China. That's all I'm saying, you know.

I want to say, I want to go out on a limb and say, Rob, you know, your friend's saying, oh, it was the foreman that asked for this. It was you, mate, wasn't it?

Let's just be honest. It was you.

Well, I did actually go, you know, and take the union on because they weren't looking after me.

So we started up. I was actually the one who

pretty much introduced the metal Workers Union with an automotive industry. Oh, get out.

Because we're all part of the whatever it was the Automotive Builders Union and they wouldn't support our pay rise even though we went on strike for the staff to get their pay rise in the automotive industry. And they go well.

And when everyone got their pay rise, we look at our paychecks.

How come we didn't get a pay rise?

Oh, you're not part of the automotive vehicle builders, not we're part of the union, but you're not part of you're a fitter and Turner. You're not a automotive worker

or a tool maker. So oh, is that is that right?

So I'll go. We'll see about that.

We'll see about that. I'll go and join AMW.

So we brought in AMWU to Toyota there.

You go. So, oh, some of that had two

unions. Toyota.

See. See, Rob's giving me ideas.

I need to start my own union, you know, just do it.

Called the Alum Union. Everyone pays me a dollar an

hour out of there as their dues and I get things done, you know, it's just, it's the. ASU, Alan deep singing you.

Yeah, that's it. That's what we need.

Anyone can join from any workplace.

You just got to pay a dollar an hour as you do, and I'll do what I can. But do you back to what you were

saying, Alan, like it's you're spot on, man.

You know, with, with, with these, with, with the, with the rate at which the progression like Kia's in the Hyundai, as we're known as, let's be honest, shit for like, yeah, yeah.

As, as long as I can remember, only recent, probably in the last five to seven or eight years have they been like, yeah, you know, I'd buy one. They're they're they're, they're

a cracking car. They're a good, they're a good

car to buy. Now before that they're going to

be like, oh, you're buying a cheap Korean car.

And, and a good example of this was when I was at The Wreckers in Adelaide. They had a, an early Kia.

You would have been early Kia Serrato, like one of the early ones we had here. And the door card was off it and

I had a look inside and and it was like quite literally no metal in the door. It was it was it was a cheap

car. It was, you know, really poorly

put together the work. They were somewhat reliable.

And to see where they are now, they're completely, you know, they're they're an incredible car.

But the the right in which the Chinese have became changed in about 10 years has just been unfreaking believable.

Yeah, I'm. Kiss took man Kia though.

Interestingly, I read an article today to say that because Kia built the EV5 in China and yeah, the the first shipment was rejected on quality grounds. Really.

By the Australian Kia, the Australian arm of Kia.

They said it wasn't up to what they what the market requires here. So.

So they send them back. Send them back there, yeah.

So so in other words. So I think.

How bad are the how bad are the Teslas coming that came from America? That the one that the Chinese

ones were better. They've always been bad, even

when they've bought America. So I mean, there's no, no, no

great difference quality wise. But the but yeah, I mean, that's

part of the reason why they're improving because I mean, if they can't, you know, if, if yeah, you get what I say.

Yeah, I just thought that was interesting that that that was actually on one of the car kind of use websites today that yeah, the first, there's been a delay on the release of them in Australia because the first ones that were done for the Australian market weren't considered good enough.

Does anyone feel that maybe the Kia or Pono are dumping lower less lesser quality cars in America?

Or because they seem to get a real bad Rep over there?

I mean. The Kia Boys, you got something

to do with that? So in America, I think for the

last like 15 years, they didn't off they to cut costs, they didn't put immobilisers in their cars.

So, so the reason they called the Kia Boys is because the people would break into the cars and pull off the quality, pull off the ignition barrel, put Ausb stick in the because I'd like I had Ausb stick kind of like hole turn it and steal the car. And these are like 5 year olds

stealing cars. Well, not 5 year olds, but you

know what I mean. So they got quite the wrap of

being still a poor, a poorly built, you know, cheap car which. OK, interesting.

Well, we better get used to them because there's a lot more on the way. I mean, Leap Motor about to

launch, Zika about to launch. Yeah, there's another 3 or 4

brands that I've can't think of at the moment.

X Pens about to launch. That's a.

Pick up on what they look like too, like the designs on how similar they are to cars that are already on the road.

Yeah, yeah. Is that GWM one that looks like

a Jeep? Yeah, the the the Tank 300.

Yeah, the Tank 300 looks exactly like a Jeep.

Then there were one of it was an ad that kept popping up.

I was watching something on oh, I think it might have been on like Amazon prime or something. And because I pay cheaper, I get

those ads and that and it's a new, it's a new U Chinese BYOD.

Shark. Yeah, that's the one.

And it's like an F150. Yeah, yeah.

Like exactly like 1. Yeah, I was going to talk about.

That even on the grill like instead of saying Ford.

It just says BYD. S yes, BYD is the biggest riding

ever. Like it's just straight straight

copies as usual. That's a, that's a plug in

hybrid, isn't it? The shark, the the Ute itself?

Yeah, it's on a full electric. Yeah, yeah, I.

Mean you say that though, like, but the Japanese were doing that years ago like Like the Japanese were copying American designs years ago like silica Mustang. You know what?

I mean, but they did it better. That is true.

I mean that I mean that made them work, didn't they?

But the the the in particular though, like one of one of the really good ones is that they copied some of the best engines from Europe as well. So like the four Aga, which is,

you know, a very famous Toyota engine based on the Ford little cosmic twin Cam engine. So, and, and it's even got the

same valve angles and everything as does that.

And at full chat they sound virtually identical.

Yes, the Toyotas were more mass produced and, and you know, stuff like that. But you know, those old BDAS and

escorts that were like singing at 8000 RPM on a rally stage, you know, they're very, they sound very similar to a four AG 8. So the Japanese did that, you

know, as as as well. And you know, to beat the best

you got to, you got to kind of, you know, take it, take it on board. And you know, a lot of a lot of

land crews and stuff like engine wise and, and you know, there were there were copies, there were copies and made better.

I'd tell you what that's oh, sorry, sorry.

I was just going to say that's the key.

That's the, that's the ethos of Japanese is to, is to, is to take the best that they can find, but make it better and make it reliable. And and that's, I think probably

we're part of the difference lines.

Initially they didn't know how until they got dimming and you know, and all that sort of stuff.

Like I said, with their quality controls is quality processes, Kazan and everything else that goes with it.

You know, prior to that they were doing their best and they're pretty good, but once they really got stuck into their quality principles, that's where they really started ahead, you know, go forward and leaps and bounds.

That's right. I guess if you're mass producing

so many as China is, is it going to stay with quality or was is that going to drop off? Because they're like, oh, we're

mass producing so many. You're going to expect out of,

you know, out of every 10, there's going to be at least 2.

They're not up to scratch. I don't think so.

There's less human, how can I say interaction with the build of these cars and all robotic. That's true.

So it's consistent until something goes wrong with the robots. Yeah.

So. So in other words, what you're

saying is Rob, who was formerly working at Toyota, was replaced with robots, robots, robots, robots, robots.

Yes, yeah. But now, now instead of watching

out for cars that are built on Fridays, we have to watch out for cars that are built by robots that were built on Fridays. That's.

Correct. They they've got no opinion,

those poor. Robots.

There's poor robots here. There you.

Go, Alan. I feel bad.

Yeah, the Robot Robot Workers Union.

Robots need a break too. On, on, on some of the aspect of

like, you know, what are we expecting growth because I think we're partly also in our teething issues or teething, yeah, that kind of area where our infrastructure at this point has very clearly failed to keep up with the amount of electric vehicles that are on the roads. With anything, really.

Yeah, well, that's true truth, but specifically, you know, related to EVs, like people, not everyone can charge them at home. And you know, unless you've got

a nice workplace that has specific charges or you work near the AL Johnna here in Campbellfield, which has got Tesla charges now. And you, you don't, you don't

like with that, you know, there's got to be some concessions. And I think the, the new was the

MG 4. That's like the cheapest EV in

Australia now that's sitting at was it close to 40?

Just at just at 40, I think. I think it's, I think. 3030

sorry, 3990 drive away allegedly.

And and when you're when you're you know, we had like the earlier EVs. If you want Tesla Model 3, you

look at that 60 and change, you know, for whatever you want.

It will hire if you want the high performance specs and then you can get one for basically 31.

You know, you could always get other things, you know, lease and that sort of stuff for close to, to, to lower price.

But this is, I guess a, we'll call it full function, you know, full size car, more or less you, you're really kind of competing in price now, which is another thing to drive consumers.

And on the front of the shark, the BYOD Shark or the F150 from Timu as I like to call it, you've got I think the on road pricing is looking at about $57,000 and it will outpace a Ranger Raptor. Yeah, I think it's touted to

have 300 and something kilowatts include the hybrid engine and the petrol engine. Yeah, yeah, let me see.

It is 321 kilowatts and 650 Newton metres of torque.

So it goes. That is more than a Raptor,

isn't it that. Yeah, yeah, the Raptors are 292,

Yeah, and 583. And it'll outpace Raptor to 100,

which, look, if you're racing utes to 100, you're a bad person. But people are doing it on the

daily, unfortunately here. So you've got a guy next to you

who spent, you know, 90 plus on his Raptor, and you spend, you know, just just irregular Ute money, like the lower end Ute money in the grand scheme of things on the BYD.

And you've won the race. Like you're over the moon at

that point. So if you're providing that kind

of a value proposition, yeah, like it's only going to go up in terms of sales. In other words, you're first at

the pub for beers and and the first one, that's it.

Not on you because you wanted the first one there.

That's it. I think.

I think. 1st the pub for the beers and he smashes the doors

because he couldn't stop in time.

I think what people are shopping for now is creature comforts is number one in the car. Also, everyone wants something

new, so you want to own a new car not used.

And warranty. There's three things you can

get. And it's cheap.

It's. Cheap #4 is cheap, so.

That's. All people want, they don't care

about what engine it is, they don't care where it came from.

That doesn't interest them. They just want a car that goes

from A to B and has all those creature comforts that all those high end cars have. There's not much different that

that, you know, a BMW is going to have in it that one of these electric cars, GWM or whatever he's going to have in it.

They've all got the Apple play systems, they've all got heated seats and things like that. They've got it all and they all.

Come from China. Yeah.

It's. Going to come from the same spot

anyway and you're saving, you know, 40 grand or more 30. 40

Here's the thing man. Like, remember that $110,000 BMW

3 Series I drove recently drove that, The three, the three, the 330I, whatever it was. Yeah, it's that's like the basic

when they're selling in Australia now, right?

That's 110 grand that didn't even have heated seats.

That's an option. That's a package.

Yeah, and they still have all those options attached to it.

And all these other cards from China, they don't have these options they come with already. Yeah, it's already a premium

package, like you're not ticking boxes.

Like that have LS, H6G tech and have L.

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The had heated seats, had ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, It had all the features that, you know, you could really want. It's even got like a feature

where it can track your, the last 15 metres you drove and it would go back exactly in the same spot.

So in case you got into like a tight car park, it'll get you out like that. It, it's, it's incredible.

I was like, like, all this and he paid, he paid 34 grand, you know, And this is like not even a year old.

Yeah, and. People love those kind of little

gimmicks and stuff. Absolutely they do.

What you want, You want to talk about that in the pub?

Yeah, correct. I mean, are you going to use it?

Absolutely not. No, it's a cool talking feature.

Correct. Absolutely.

You know, it's like before when I was talking about all about horsepower. Now it's talking about can your

car do this? You know, go.

Yeah, exactly right. Yep.

And for most people, 34 grand, you know, like or let's just say brand new 40 on the road, you know, with all those features, you sell it in 5-6 years time and it's out of warranty anyway.

Like it's seven years time, it's 10 grand, you know you haven't lost 150 grand in depreciation like you would have with with a BMW with, with all that with, with not really hardly any of those features unless you bought it with upgraded with a pack.

And and it's going to be hard to try and sell that.

Correct. Yeah.

So, you know, just go buy another 3540 thousand dollar Hubbell H6GT, the new version with all the extra features that that your that your your S class had last generation and you're and you're a you're a happy, happy camper.

You know, so I can see why they sell so well.

I can see why they're in the top ten now.

Like it's like like, and don't get me wrong, I'm not I'm not having to go on Honda here. You know, I I really like the

new CIB. You know, I think it's it's

great to drive. It's I think it you know, I did

didn't like it at the start, but I think it looks quite good now and seeing them on the road seeing especially in Rs trim, I think they look they look really, they look really, you know, sporty, but like basic stuff like a 360 camera.

It doesn't have, you know, which is like which is criminal in in that Mart in that, in that that price bracket, your price bracket and. Mazda's the same too, aren't

they? Yeah, yeah, they have it either.

So like so Mazda and Hunter are getting by by their name, but like, you know, yes, the cars are quality wise much better.

And I mean, it's not by much these days in terms of like shouldn't finish, but like, yes, they'd be more reliable, yes, that XYZ. But you know, people aren't

stupid people. People want to have, you know,

well, if that car doesn't come reverse back 50 metres to Get Me Out of my driveway because it's I got, you know, really tricky driveway, but the Havel can do, can do it for 20 grand less.

Guess where I'm going 720 grand going to Havel.

So I don't know. I'm not saying that Honda and

stuff they need to need to be to put those things in.

But like, you know, people want, as you were saying, people want gimmicks. People want though, people want

all the teachers they want, they want, oh, can your car do this?

Can your car do that? You know, I remember my brother

showed me his new Santa Fe first the button he drove out to him.

I'm like, what the hell? You know, it's like I went to

Mazda. I went to, you know, Toyota.

They don't, don't do that. Like, and I'm like, you know,

this is a Korean car and, you know, and then the Chinese cars have been doing it for, you know, God knows how long.

So yeah, I'm, I'm much in the boat of I don't know, I, I, I, I don't see them slowing down. I see them, I see them taking

over and they're going to have, they're going to have the the basic. Them accelerating.

Yes, it just. It just really reminds me of the

Japanese in the in the 90s. I mean R30 ones with HID

headlights that never appeared in any Aussie cars at all.

You. Built aerials, but you still had

a use with the aerials sticking out of the bonnet and things, just all those kind of technologies that they just never had and they were so far behind and China's just up and up and up up. Yeah, absolutely.

Everything's made there and I think that's probably why.

That's a GGWM alpha hybrid. 60 grand it.

Looks it looks like an F150. It is basically, it's got

sunroof, split, tailgate. It's got everything, Yeah.

How do you compete? Yeah, because you'll be, you'll

be looking at a Ford Ranger and that with everything in there for what, 80? Yeah.

Yeah, because my, my brother's now for work, you know, they give him a car and stuff and it used to be the Hilux.

Yeah. And now he's got the Ford Ranger

wild track that was his boss's boss's car.

So it's only like a a year old. It's still pretty new, but you

know, that was like 85 grand or something.

Yeah, a little cheap. But.

Rob Rob's just shown us the the. But when's, when is that going

to change? They're going to stop buying

those Fords, these companies, you know, I think it's already something to happen. They'll move away.

Those Ford ranges are moved to the Chinese SUV's.

And. Instead for work.

Yeah, some and some of them like, like you said, these, the Newt's and stuff, they look very, very similar.

There's not much to it. Some of the other cars look a

bit goofy in my opinion, but occasionally you get something like the Aura GT which in my opinion, especially the front, has very Alfa Romeo esque vibes and that just looks really lovely. Like I would love to just have

that to just chill around town. Oh yes, that little thing.

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, it's a cute little thing,

isn't? It.

Yeah, it is. Yep, subtle blends in.

I don't mind that baby blue colour either.

Looks good. I work with the guy.

I work with this guy and his name is Matt as well actually.

And he he's he's a big car guy and he's had some really cool cars over the years. But he had a BM WX5, which

wasn't even really that old. He was probably 10 years old and

he had countless issues with it issue after issue after issue after issue. You know, he left him stranded.

You have to leave it at some place in miles away.

Anyway, he's like, I'm hard with this.

I'm pissing it off. The DPS cooked.

I'm I'm I'm getting rid of it. Like what are you going to buy?

He's like, I'm going Chinese. He actually got a Chinese.

He's like absolutely. He's like, and he bought as well

a Hubble H6GT. He bought one off the off the

Sherman floor and he's like, I love it.

He's like it does everything. It does everything.

It's got a warranty. He's like, I don't care if it

breaks because it'll it'll be covered.

And a good warranty too. Yeah, big warranty.

I. Think seven years or something.

And he and he's. Like he's like, and then when I

come to start in 10 years, in in 5-10 years time, it I haven't lost like the amount of money I lost in the BMW.

Yeah. And he's like, it's got

everything I need. It'll do everything, you know,

and it doesn't have any, any wank tax with it, you know, that comes that comes with like, you know, BMW ownership and and he's like, you know, I'm I'm never buying a BMW again.

And I'm like, I get it. Like I said, I.

Get why people are people are. Making these calls, you know,

and, and the badge stoves would be like, oh, I'm not not buying a Chinese car. But at the end of the day, you

know, as a cheap proposition for a few years.

And if you don't really care about depreciation and you don't, you're using it as a car and as a tool and nothing with a sense of what's the word heart. Yeah, sure.

Why not? Yeah, Scotty's just sent us a in

the chat. Yeah, the one that Alan was just

talking about. Reora.

Yeah, the aura, the aura's cool, Yeah.

It's a really. It's a really cool little car.

It's the IT was called the Aura cat, wasn't it Cat?

It was 33339. 90 OK and they come kitted too, like like they

come with everything. You know, and that's at the end

of the day, what what are what are what are the normal car when you've got normal, if it comes normal, but what are like the standard? I'll, I'll ask this question

before we move on to the quiz, but what are your, you know, your typical Fords, Hondas and Toyotas, Mazdas and stuff like Toyota, Toyota's fine. They'll just keep selling, you

know, Hiluxes to, to everyone and, and, and stuff like that.

But what are they going to do now that they realise that these, these other companies are, are just going to just flood the market and take all this out and cut into their market share? Do you reckon they have to one

offer more tech for less money 2 keep doing what they're doing because because people. Realise, oh, these cars aren't.

That great or three succumb to it and just be like, well, these are the cars we offer. If you don't like it, tough

there for me are the only kind of three options they have.

They can't do the last one. But they also can't do what?

What? Mazda's done and lost so much

market share by trying to be a premium upmarket brand.

Yeah, no. And that's completely.

That's completely, you know. Backfired.

Maybe they'll they'll pull out of the market.

Like the French company has recently in Australia, right?

And then protect their own market.

By putting the. Tariffs up in their own country.

OK that that that's actually a really good point.

That's what's. Going to happen.

They're going to try to protect their market.

As much as they can and reap as much money as they can.

These multinationals and corporates, they're all owned by. You.

Know the the big what I call them investing companies and whatnots, they're all got their all their money is good.

Yeah, I mean, you've got to keep making.

Profits every single year you've got to.

Make a bigger profit. The biggest problem we have in

Australia, I think. Is that we're a tiny market

internationally and there's too many brands on sale already and I don't know who's grazing, who's palm, but but someone should have some time ago said, you know what, that's it.

That's all the brands were selling in Australia, but no one said that. And that's why these these new

ones are pouring in. And yeah, I mean, everyone's

competing for a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.

And I reckon watch this space. I reckon it's there's going to

be more going the way of isn't that good?

Isn't that good? Because that doesn't.

That drive or should drive price back down and be reasonably priced rather than overt inflated?

You'd think so, but also like like look at the housing.

Market like the more that came on the prices just kept going up like it's it's I guess if the man's there then they can just charge it over the hell they want right like that's that's that's what they're gonna I think that but but I think comparatively because. As in Australia, I think because

we we are such a small market that internationally a lot of the bigger players are just gonna just say, oh, it's too hard to sell cars in Australia now.

I mean, there's not the value, there's not the market.

The government does that because if if the car was.

On the same design regulations and rules as in England or any other right hand drive country in the world, India, Thailand.

Whatever. And they said, all right, we'll

meet the British design rules, so only the car would be cheaper here. But no, something has to be a

little bit different, you know, to meet our safety requirements.

And we're going to go above and beyond what luck, you know, the British do. And we're going to do something

to make it harder for the manufacturers to bring the cars.

And you, you need to supply parts for 10 years or 20 years, you know, stupid things like that.

Yeah, the the only thing I feel that.

Should be able to. Mandate is you have to be able

to hit a kangaroo with the car like 80 KS or 100 KS Volvo has been. It's got to be, it's got to be

kangaroo as well. It can't be like a moose.

Or like a deer or anything. It's got to be Kakaroo.

Volvo spent millions and millions of dollars trying to to get a kangaroo techno detection technology and then just decide not too hard, can't do it, sorry.

Just they go like this. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. That's right.

So. They Yeah, yeah, it was.

It didn't go well. All right, Well, let's see.

Let's check back in. A year's time, I reckon that's,

I reckon it would be very interesting in a year.

'S time to have a look again and see what the what the go is.

I'm going to put in my bet for the top. 10 for next year.

I I definitely think Ford and Toyota will be there because they're still still a Brazilian. Hiluxes and Rangers.

Isuzu will be out there but I think GW is going to probably take fourth spot. MG or 4th or 5th, I think LDV is

going to be up there as well. I just think watch the space.

We're going to be, you know, influx with Chinese cars and yeah, well, we're going to like your, your big players, like your Mazdas and stuff aren't going to be aren't going to be in the top sector. Yeah, and and also the what?

They they what? They change their sales and

marketing strategies, haven't they?

Mazda, Honda, Honda and Mercedes have yeah.

Yeah, followed on from what Subaru did many years ago and it's backfired on him big time. So.

We'll see. Let's.

Move on to the quiz. Tonight's quiz master is.

Mr. David Prince, how are Thank you.

I'm going to say how are you, David?

Oh, I'm good. Thanks, man.

Good. Thank you David for taking me.

I needs a coffee. I need.

I need AI, need a. More than a coffee, he he's just

lulling us into a false sense of.

Security. As soon as the quiz starts, he's

gonna be like bam, bam, bam. You know, we shall see.

We shall see. So David Prince, the quiz.

I've got the scores ready to go. You're more than welcome to

start at your own leisure, my friend.

Lovely. Thank you very much.

We've got a few guests the. Manufacturer Questions.

We've got a few Racing questions.

Got a few historical ones and a few French ones chucked in.

It was an honourable French car show that was French Car Day that was held over the weekend. So all right, question one.

What manufacturer is about to relaunch a famous American brand from the 60s as a fully electrified waggon and Ute don't know do? You want to guess.

Matthew, Yeah. American brand you.

Said. Yep, in the 60s.

Oh jeez, maybe the Wagoneer. Jeep.

Jeep Wagoneer. No, No.

Rob, was it Chrysler Dodge? No, it's actually not.

An American company. Interesting.

Well, let everyone ever go. And I think I might have it.

Could you repeat the specifics of the question?

Please, David. Oh, this is question one.

It's going to be a long quiz, isn't?

It I'm sorry, what manufacturer of automobiles in the world is about to relaunch a famous American brand from the 1960s as a fully electrified waggon and mute?

Oh, OK, I get you. So they've taken the.

Name. Yeah, and amalgamated as part of

their multi brand. All right, I'll take a punch,

Scott. Go Scotty.

I'm gonna say it's. Ion die.

Incorrect. Yeah.

And Alan? Yeah, Do I just have to guess

the? Manufacturer.

Yeah, that's what the question asks.

All right, just. The manufacturer we'll go with.

Great Wall Motors. Incorrect.

Well, I've. Got it.

I've got it go wrong. VW.

Correct. I don't know how that works.

For a for a score because you already had a guest, but you know, there you go. You got you got there in the

end. The Volkswagen are about to

announce Scout Motors based on international scouts from this that was released in 61, I think it was.

And then, yeah, it's an electrified waggon and mute.

And there's, there's two models in the range.

But Scout Motors is going to be part of the Volkswagen Group.

Sorry, Rob, no point. Why did you say Volkswagen?

You heard the same story. I I did it, Did it come to mind?

Yeah, yeah. It was sort of something unique.

It's sort of. The scouts are similar to

Broncos, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where I got it. From Yeah, so international was

the truck. Company and they.

Yeah, and they they went mini in the 60s and produced the the Scout and they were like built like a truck and pretty indestructible. But there's still a following

up. Still see them around

occasionally shows and stuff. Question 2 Which manufacturer is

the large latest brand to launch a Black Edition in the Australian market? So Holden have done a Mercedes.

Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. It was Ford.

No incorrect Ranger Black Edition that was that is a that is released. This one's been announced this

week. OK, I think I might know this

one. It would.

Yeah, there's a good reason. Does it happen?

To be a manufacturer from my home country, it may well be Mahindra. Incorrect.

So there is now a Mahindra XUV 700 Black Edition.

Check it out. Black black bumpers.

I hate car companies. They're just.

Sheep like they're all everyone's got a black.

Edition everyone's got. An N line or an S line.

Or, you know, sheep, the thing that we we need more.

Car companies infringing on copyright.

We need like a Kia Nismo edition and then.

Oh my word, have you seen the photos of the Kia Tasman that have been released today? No, I, I, I'm being.

Chocolate not not going to be a good looking car on on that point Alan which? Manufacturer has just released

an Australian developed blade edition.

Oh no, I. Did hear something about about

the name Blade? And it's not Toyota.

It's not Toyota. Yeah, you've already got. 1

it's. Something blade I read this the

other day. I don't know the company.

I'm just going to put Matthew MG No, not correct, incorrect.

Anyone else you've done cooked? Yeah, I'm not sure.

Question 3. It's Isuzu.

There's AD Max Blade Edition. That's right, that's been

released. No, we'll never guess that

there's a. Bonus above the X train or below

below OK. And it is.

There's a bonus point here. The second stage production is

being done locally. It's an Australian developed

edition. Who's doing the second stage

production? Matthew, Matthew.

Matthew. I believe it's Walkinshaw.

You are correct. Damn it, I was going.

To guess that. They tend to get their fingers

in a lot of these kind of pies. They do, they do, They do if

it's not. Silverados and stuff like that.

But OK, last manufacturing question here.

What manufacturer has just announced A24A 2024-2025 update to a model that was first released here in 2010?

So it's entering it's 14th or 15th here.

On the market, Scott Scott the Nissan GTR No.

Do you know you can't buy Nissan GTR here now because they failed the side impact tests? Changes in the regulation

Society impact protection from October 21.

So you haven't been able? To buy a new GTR in Australia

since October 21. Eight days guys.

It's been a sad 8 days. I'm trying to think what's

what's been around that long, Matthew.

Is it the Nissan Patrol? Incorrect.

OK, so I've got Robin Allen. Still to have a yes.

Nah, they, they, they. Stopped making the.

Chrysler, Jeep, the Jeeps. Yeah, that.

That's been going for a long time.

I've got nothing, nothing. OK.

You're you're done ASX. Has that been around that long?

2010 now. Released What a.

What a terrible car. Slips under the radar, it does.

And it is. Actually done year on year,

sales have increased again this year.

And yeah, and Mitsubishi have been questioned in press conferences and stuff that, you know, the press have been saying, well, when's the replacement coming for it?

And they say what? And they're saying we haven't

got a replacement coming for it because it's still selling and and you know, it's sales are increasing year on year.

All right, so if Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan.

Mitsubishi is the Chinese companies of bloody of, of Japan like like that's harsh. Gosh.

Quite literally pumping out just cars with.

With tonnes of features for not much money and they're getting signals so they like, I'm sure Christian.

Ephron. He.

He got a an ASX from his auntie. I think that was a 2014 model.

It was a manual because. She was insisted.

On buying manuals and he wasn't very happy with you know, I think he was more upset about the cigarette smoke smell than the actual features of the car. Well, the manual would probably

be more fun than the. CVT, the early cars had all of

the CVTS in them, but I think they've just chipped away at it and and they've kept adding features to it and well David, you've had 14 years to get the bloody thing.

Right, you should exactly right. You would have done it by this

is the company. That bought you the Mitsubishi.

Lancer and the. Mitsubishi Pajero though so and

Pajero Sports still available too.

You can still buy the Pajeros. There you go.

OK, score. Check me myself on one element,

one I'll give Rob. .5 because even though he added second

guess, he was right. Scotty at the score question #5

Which? Race series in the.

US that ran from the mid 60s to the mid 80s was famous for having very few limitations on entries.

Basically Matthew Scott first. Was that the?

Trans Am. No.

That's not what it was called. Matthew, Matthew The.

International Race of Champions. All right.

No. OK, John.

Rob, I thought you'd know this. Nah, I, I.

Know it is no. No, Alan.

No, no, the Pike's Peak. Hill Climb?

No. No.

Not correct. The Can Am series on the right.

You're right. Right track, Scotty, but I

couldn't give you a trans that's right.

And I can picture a couple of the cars too.

Yep, they were mental. Didn't matter.

What engine? They had didn't matter.

Didn't matter what suspension it had as long as the the wheels were were enclosed. It had two seats and bodywork

could be super. You remember the one that had

the massive rear? Spoiler on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Push.

Push had cars running in it. And, and so that went from the

from the mid 60s and the mid 80s.

So there's a bonus point here too.

What did, where did the series derive its name from?

Matthew. Matthew.

So like this? Pan Am, Pan America.

This had been can America, I don't know.

Yeah, I, I was gonna say geographically, geographically, Canada, Canada, American Challenge Cup.

That was oh OK, the NM starts came from.

Is that a point or is that a point for?

That's not a point to you point. Five point.

Five. You're on half of one at best.

If that if people allow it, the. Podcast got his name on it.

Shenanigans, Shenanigans .5. .5 I'll take the point.

Five, I'll take the .5 makes. A wrong guess and then, you

know, just question. 6 Vagabond, Venturer and Reebok are limited

editions of which car, make and model Matthew Scotty got in again, I think. Shivers.

My mind just went blank. Vagabond, Venturer and Reebok.

Ford. Sorry, Ford.

No. Matthew.

Matthew, it'll be. Nissan.

Correct. Correct.

Well, it says make and model. Oh, OK.

Pulsar. Correct.

OK. Question 7.

The McLaren Racing team was formed in what year?

Closest to guess Matthew, I want to say. 1968 OK, I'll I'll go.

67 OK. I'm going to go 73.

OK, Alan. No. 60.

Four. OK.

Were you in the ballpark, David Prince?

You were very in. The ballpark so.

The McLaren Racing team was formed in 1963.

Alan gets the point. Alan, get in.

Bonus point what? Nationality was Bruce McLaren

Scott Matthew Scott British. No.

No. Matthew.

Alan Matthew I. Think he was American, wasn't

he? Incorrect.

Alan Allen. OK, it was Irish.

Incorrect. No.

Why did I say that? Why?

Did I say he? Says God.

I thought this was an. Easy 1 Rob.

New Zealand. Correct.

He was a New Zealander. Oh, really?

No, I didn't. I was actually going to get

Scottish because it's. The the muck, Muck, yeah, Felt

like if it was Irish, I was. He should have had overrated

something. Yeah, he he was the founder.

Tragically died testing a car in 1970, so he was only around for the first seven years of the company and then they moved to Britain they did. They did.

Carrying on with the McLaren theme, the McLaren F1 sports car was originally conceived in 1988 and unveiled on the 28th of May 1992 at the Sporting Club in Monaco.

It was fitted with a 6.1 litre V12 BMW engine specially

developed for that car. That wasn't their first choice

of engine manufacturer. Who was their first choice?

Matthew. I think Matt was.

Matthew was first, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, I think now Gordon

Murray was a big. Fan of the NSXI, believe he

owned 1 and I think he wanted to use a Honda engine.

You are 100% correct. And BMW, interestingly, wasn't

even their second choice. You'll never guess in a million

years if they went to 2nd, but so I won't even that's not even a bonus point. Isuzu.

What? Yes, what did they want?

To put in it like put a truck engine in there to be found.

They were developing a racing. Engine.

I can't. I'd have to go back and it's

APR. It's a turbo engine.

It was the axle tramp that. Killed it they.

Yeah. So it yeah, Honda was their

first choice, but Honda, they wanted to put AV10 or AV12, Honda Formula One engine in it basically.

Well, yeah, that would have been sick.

It would have been. Fully sick but.

Mr Honda. Said no.

So we bonus point for this my question where did Gordon Murray get the inspiration for the butterfly or the dihedron doors from one particular car? Matthew, Matthew, it's got to be

a going no. Scott.

Scott montage. No, because it's around the same

time. Similar.

Time, but not the car. I don't even know that Rohan

Atkinson would know this, considering he's from one of the cars. No good.

No good. Well, there's some kind of

Jaguar. Nope.

No. No.

Kind of Jaguar. No.

Robin. Yeah, Ferrari.

Nope, No, no, Ferrari be the DeLorean, wouldn't it?

No, not the door in it was. The Toyota Sierra.

Oh, Kitty. That lovely green one like that

had the doors open at at Highball a couple of weeks ago.

Nick parked next to the McLaren. Interestingly, no one was taking

photos of. That's brilliant.

There you go. Question 9 in.

In honour of the French car show over the weekend, Peugeot have a range of electric cars across their range now available.

Which decade did they release their first electric car?

Matthew Matthew. I believe it was the. 80s they

did a 2O. 5 Electric. Version of that incorrect.

OK. Does it make an electric two O

5? Like as a concept.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's Scott.

I'll say the 90s, nineties. Incorrect.

Al Sorry Scotty, Alan, Alan, I say old school.

The 60s? No, Al, I'm incorrect.

Oh, Rob. Rob somewhere in the 2000s.

Going the other way now, incorrect.

It was 1941. What Peugeot produced an

electric their first electric car.

Was it rather like a electric tram track or something or what not? No, it it it was.

It had an electric motor. It didn't do well.

No, you don't say. What a surprise.

But they did sell them for three.

Years and then they they then they stopped selling them.

So how'd they power the motors in that?

Era, whether they're just using big old giant batteries or Good question. No, they, they, they, they had

mic. The diesel generator running.

And a really long extension. Cord Yeah, OK.

Question 10. Last question It's recently been

announced that Citroen will leave the Australian market, the longest continuously selling brand in Australia.

Even when they didn't have Citroen dealerships, you could still buy Citroen from the factory through Maxim Motors in Queensland. So they've been continuously on

sale the whole time basically. It might not have been the case

that they lasted that long because the company actually went bankrupt in 1934. Their largest creditor bailed

them out and the company remained alive.

Who was their major creditor? Jeez.

Matthew, Matthew. It wouldn't be Persia, would it?

No. Incorrect, I'll say.

Something stupid rob the French government.

I was actually thinking that Rob I'll.

Think of that. Enormous you.

Enormous you. No, no, no.

Sorry. It's been a bit of a crummy

quiz, hasn't it? Any any hints?

Any hints David? It's component manufacturer.

Was their greatest creditor. I think I know how it is, Scott.

Bosch no, but I like with the way.

You're thinking, was this a French competent manufacturer?

I'm sorry, was this a French? Company, obviously.

Honestly. I know.

I don't know if there's a component.

But I'm thinking Elm. Elm, Could it have been

Michelin? We miss you, yes.

Each car had four tyres and and they had two Michelins.

They were their largest creditor, so Michelin.

Actually bought. Citrone in 1934 and the company

remained in in business. Yeah, I was, I was going to say

Michelin, if that that was like if no one got.

Around like, I'm guaranteed it. Probably Michelin.

Yeah, yeah. Isn't that why they started

their booklets? So people can wear.

Out their tyres so they can sell more tyres.

Exactly right. That's what the Michelin starred

restaurants, that's exactly. What they why they they started

the restaurant guide that people drive and wear tyres at the the high star restaurants just happen to have a you know.

Michelin selling tyre shop nearby.

Score check. That's good for tonight.

Matthew Scotty didn't score tonight.

What the hell happened tomorrow, Scotty?

And you were right out the gate on.

So many of the questions too mate.

Yeah, I was just giving it a whirl.

Sorry. Next, maybe you need to win it.

But didn't win it. Was.

Robin 1.5, element 3. And yours truly on 3.5.

So it could have been anyone's game, but there are no more.

Questions. Yes.

Yeah, if he hadn't cheated with a half point, I mean, it'd be a time. No one.

Was handballed to him, yeah. It's.

Just. How called a Gimme Yeah, guys.

So I think that's a. Podcast gentlemen before.

Before the riot begins with you guys, David Prince, you do a podcast. I do.

I've been. Talking podcasts with various

people this week, actually. Interestingly, Ed and I have a

little thing called Auto Retro where we talk to people about the cars of their lives. So watch this space.

Scooby Doo golf tip of the week, golf tip of the week.

I'll keep it nice. And simple create a solid stance

so when you've. You're about to tee off.

Or hit the ball or anything like that.

Just make sure you've got a nice solid stance, you're not leaning on one side or anything nice and even work on the core nice.

I think there's something on. That this Rob's fabrications.

Firefighting and everything. Pool man cave man cave spray

booth. You name it, we've.

Got it. As you know, Rob's doing it.

Rob's doing it. Yeah.

When's the when's? The man cave open Rob's Yeah,

we're. Gonna have to actually.

I'm gonna set up the Wi-Fi there.

We can maybe run a show from there or something.

Yeah, it'll be fun. I'm having help with setting up

WI. Fi's, yeah.

Well, we can probably get a hotspot.

Or something happening, wouldn't we?

Yeah, our. Friend Riz, Well, as you've

learned during the discussion, there are a.

Tonne of EVs here in Australia, more coming in.

So if you want the best knowledge that which ones to possibly buy, which ones to steer clear from, Headed by good friend and [email protected] dot AU.

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