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Welcome to the Avant's podcast. I'm Dan. I'm Nick. Back on our recliners. I love this new studio space.
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And this, we're going to go old school here. You put a new sticker on your,
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in your fuse box that says, remember kids, electricity will kill you. What is his name?
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Kilowatt. Kilowatt. If you're old enough to remember Kilowatt,
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and I think this is an actual representation of him. Yes, this is the actual,
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like the actual. With the implement of destruction, right? Like, okay, that's because that's how I
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remember it. I just didn't know if somebody in my household happened to have a sticker of one.
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But if you were, if you're old enough to remember Kilowatt, he is a man made out of electricity
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with a bobble head and carries a knife where he, and he's patting a child on this, on the shoulder
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looking at them and it says, remember kid, electricity will kill you. Back when marketing
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was. Different time. Yeah, different time. I feel like, you know, the times are changing.
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You might be able to get that's a pretty good way to, I mean, they were serious about it. I just
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like to have it. I always thought the logo was funny. Yeah. So I put it on the fuse, fuse box cover.
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I was listening to some, this is again aging us the breaker box. They were talking about dare
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and like how, and I remember as a kid thinking it was really cool, but like he started to
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explain it as an adult like, hey, they, your sheriff would come to your school, show you
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the drugs you weren't supposed to do, and then dare you not to do it.
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Drugs are just education. Yep. Jones accepted officer.
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That meme. I'd like to congratulate drugs for winning the one.
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Yeah. Drugs are bad kids, but yeah. Yeah. Different times. I'm feeling nostalgic. So
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yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in that mode around where I'm looking at the shop and I'm thinking of
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decorations. Yeah. As much as it's been so much focus on function that now I'm, I'm
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thinking about my aesthetic, which is where I will have you come in because this is much more
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your expertise. Well, I mean, it's makes a very good decorator. I don't know how that happened,
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by the way, you are though. I, and I appreciate that. I, but I don't know how it happened. Like
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I didn't let go. Oh, this is what I can do. The one thing I do love and, and it's, it's,
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it's sort of been a symbol of our friendship forever is the Porsche skateboard because
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I mean it was in ever since I've met you it has floated. It was, I got it from
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John Zuberick as a gift. Yeah. And it's, yeah, I always have it up on a wall somewhere.
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Well, when I, when we were, when you had the house in Kirkland, it was in that back window
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in the back of the garage. I just remember that in front of the tool bench. That was one of the
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first places. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's just, you got to make it your space. You got
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to figure out what, you know, the things you want to look at. I mean, you've done enough
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stuff. Automotively that you could do some really cool automobile, automobile,
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I guess it is. Yeah, I guess it is. Yeah. I thought about doing, you know,
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I've talked about doing the map on the one blank wall I've got, which is kind of cool.
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Yeah. Like that's going to be an expensive piece, but I'm excited to do it. I think it'll just
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look really cool over there. And then I'll put photos here by the windows and stuff like that.
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I'm still sorting out my space and where I want things, but things are slowly coming
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into place. Like there's stuff I still got to put away, but at least it has a space to
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go to. And I'm excited about that. Well, compared to what this was, like I said, we talk
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about it all the time, but yeah, it's, yeah, it's a fun space. Yeah. Have you,
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did you take off this weekend? Were you gone? Yeah, yeah. I went to Portland to visit
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Sean's grandparents down there. Yeah, a road trip down there. Yeah, just to hang out.
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A bunch of friends. How is North Korea, Portland? I mean, Portland. It's
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Portland. It was fine. I don't know. It's funny. I love Portland. I love the area.
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Good food. We're obviously usually huge events presence down there, but
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there's a lot of parts of, obviously Portland gets a bad rap, just like Seattle does.
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Yeah. Every city's got its bad spots. Yeah. Every city's got its good spots.
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But I mean, I love the Portland area and everything out there and all the way out
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to the coast. It's one of my favorite. And there's some great roads there, but yeah.
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Nice. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, nothing special. It was a good little weekend.
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Cool. Like in no event I meant it was good to spend time with family,
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but it was not an event. It was just a wonderful amount of visit. That's cool.
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Yeah, that's about all.
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Anything else? Nothing else? Yeah, it's been working a lot. Well, that's, you know,
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that happens when the whole wanting to pay for things happens. So, right. And it's,
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you know, as people have heard, Microsoft's doing return to office in January or February
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or something. Now I'm like, I got to get your car for that, which will be fun.
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I don't want to put a mouse in the truck. So you've always been very good at that.
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I mean, when you had some of your jobs before I met you, you had, what was it? Was it a,
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what was it? I've had Corolla's Prius. I had a Prius at one point. The Prius was a free hand me
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down. Yeah. No complaints about that. Sentra, like I have had a lot of cheap commuter cars
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that I've done really well with. I saw everybody. That's the best thing I ever did because
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I was talking to Sean about that. I had this little Corolla. It was a Corolla S,
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that four speed automatic. Yeah. That just went forever.
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It was like 150 bucks or something for a full break job, pads, rotors, everything.
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It's the cheapest thing to maintain ever. Tend to the windows, put a decent stereo in it
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and drove it for 240,000 miles. Problem free. What are you thinking now?
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Are you thinking about to go Sentra? Are you thinking about Corolla?
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Well, I've been going around the ideas and I'm going to talk about,
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we talked about the sports car thing before. That's still something in my mind,
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but something a little more fun. Oh, yeah. I really liked Evan's GTI that we got
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from my dad, my nephew has. And so I would go next generation newer just for something a little
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newer. But I'm really thinking I might end up back in a GTI. I've had one before and I really
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liked that I had a 337, which is a really rare model that I still wish I had with a six-speed
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and I might do just like a 15 or 16 or newer DSG because it is a commuter. So traffic,
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think sitting and waiting and traffic. As much as I love a six-speed, I would actually go DSG
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in that case. Kind of wish we saw the S3, but it was even that's a little too much car.
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I'm looking in that like 15 at the most range. Yeah, but it's the end of the day too.
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Out of the two ways to get to Microsoft, that Redmond Duval Road is going to be a little bit
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not Redmond Duval, Redmond Fall City. Yeah. It's a good little road to drive every day. If you
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have to, you know, there's a few curves on there. If I could find the, this goes back to if I could
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find another S2000. It's funny you were saying that I was absolutely, even though it's a manual,
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but then you should get a man, then you should give this 2000. That is the best manual
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transmission over driven. So that one doesn't bother me as much. Yeah. Okay. I even looked at
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for a day. I looked at EV. So I was like, well, it's like, because I can charge so cheap at work
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and it's so cheap to own. And I was like, well, you get that $7500 back credit until the 31st
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and Tesla Model 3's leasing at $299 a month. Yeah. That's really not much. That's pretty easy.
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And I was like, nah, I can just buy something outright for $15 or so and drive it and sell
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it for, you know, and have a little more fun. I mean, if we, if we found your EV and we
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tinted the windows like zero, no one would know you ran it. I don't mind that. Seven million times,
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I actually don't have anything against EVs. It's not, it just has never suited my use case before.
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Oh, if I had a use for a Model 3, tomorrow. Yeah, they're fine. I'd still tint the windows
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when I make it see I was in it, but no, I love it. This is just a standard Rooville drive.
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I would love a performance all wheel drive though, but those are 700 bucks a month and I'm
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like, nah, I don't need it. I don't want it enough to spend that money. Yeah. Okay.
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I wish Rivian was doing that at least deal. It's still more than I want to spend,
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but that was a really good lease still when they had it. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean,
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and like you said, you can charge it work for pennies on the dollars. So that's even better.
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Yeah. So cool. Yeah. Anyway, we'll figure it out. I want to have something fun enough,
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but I'm going to wait it out and just see how it goes. Who knows what could change between
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now and then because I mean, you know, there's no place for me to park. There's no
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place for me to sit. And most of my team isn't in Redmond. So my hours will probably be,
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I'll probably start, I'll make the, I'll optimize my time for work, but if I'm going to be in the
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office, I'm not going to sit in traffic. So I'll probably be there at like six in the morning and
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leave at one and then work from home the rest of the day. So, you know, no, do not get anybody
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hearing me. I don't want to be hearing this thinking of this the wrong way. This is a
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discussion I would have with my manager. This is not me quantifying this, what I'm doing.
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This is what works for me in the business. Like that's how it works. I got you.
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Yeah. As long as they're on board, I'll make my hours work stretch.
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I think you've always been a person that, you know, you asked what the rules are and you follow
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them to the T. So that's important. When it comes to work, it's just do the right thing.
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That's best for the business. Yeah. It's not, you know, I'm working for someone else.
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You're not going to take advantage of it and be like, yeah, I came into the office for 10
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minutes today and I went home. Yeah. Go clock in and drive back home. Yeah.
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Which some people will do, I'm sure. Do not do that. That's a good way to end your career
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early. Microsoft has security. I've heard. Just watch that. Yeah.
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Um, so I was, uh, I've been in a detail mood. Obviously, as you know,
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yes, I want to talk to you all about that. You got a good Carter tip because I do.
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That's how I was going to go into that. So I was washing, I was washing the truck
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and, uh, I had after it was, and I, so I was kind of doing it. I should probably
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shouldn't, but I was kind of doing it during the windstorm. So everything was
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blowing down on the truck, but at the end of the day, my OCD took over.
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And I noticed as I watched my truck and I'm drying it, there's all of this
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water sitting on the bottom of my windshield. And I'm like, gee, that's
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interesting. Um, so this is kind of our car automotive tip of the week.
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And the fact that you need to check those drains because I had a bunch of debris
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that blew down on the car. And then the water flushed it all to the drains
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and it blocked the drains. Um, most of the time it won't go down the drain.
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Some of the pine needles will, but this blocked the actual little grates
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on both sides. So it's something to look at. It's something to,
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to think about. Um, also, and I, I did this today. I was on my calendar and this is
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just an extra go under your hood and go to your battery and check your terminals.
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Oh yeah. One of my terminals was loose and I, it's on my calendar. I check it every
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six months to go in and just happen to be one of them was loose and
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it hadn't caused an issue yet, but it could have been. So that's just
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something out there. Yeah. Especially if you do a bunch of
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overland stuff or you have electronic modifications to your car where
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you've had to change the post or it's come on and off a bunch of times.
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I actually rescued somebody in, uh, uh, right in Snoqualmie Ridge at the Thai
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restaurant one time. She had an infinity QX 56,
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which, and she had just had mom kids. So she had monitors installed in the back.
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They didn't have the factory one. So she had better ones put in the headrest,
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which is a better way to go. Anyway, by the way, I guess it's probably
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getting better now, but aftermarket used to be way better on that.
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Anyway, her car kept intermittently dying. And so she's like, I don't know what
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happened. She's like, I just had it serviced and I was like,
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pop the hood. Let me just go take a look. And the first thing I checked,
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first thing I checked is the ground was moving. Yep. Went and joined the
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battery terminals and the ground was like, yeah, they both of them were loose.
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Actually, both of them were really loose, but the ground was basically
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completely just not even on there. Yeah. Or they have seen them.
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I have seen them with the battery terminal over the plastic cover that
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comes on a new battery. Yes. I've seen that before. Do I want to start?
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It's hard to get some stuff. Like I said, I put it on my calendar every six
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months or so that just kind of pops up and says check bolts or, you know,
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things like that. But as I was cleaning stuff, I realized there was this
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huge lake underneath my windshield. And I was like, oh, and all the debris
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had been. So just check it. It gets a little bit more complicated when you
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get into the actual drains. If you've cleared the top of the drain
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and it's still not draining, you're probably going to have some other issues.
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I've tried hot water. Don't boil it, but do hot water. I've dumped hot water
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down there to kind of clear some stuff out. But they're not real
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complicated. Some of them can be, but they're not.
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Yeah. So what works really well is thin, stiff, trimmer line.
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We did a line. Works fantastic for that. And you can get, it doesn't matter
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what kind it is. Just see what you got. You just don't want the super thick
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stuff because you want to damage the line. But any cheap trimmer line, you can
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just feed it all the way down there and clean those out.
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And then you just, like you said, you pour that hot water down there and
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it's fine. Clean them right out. So the reason I was cleaning my car
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is, I mean, and I've spoken about it on this, I've been on a binge
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and the fact that I wanted to create or find, I wanted a power washer
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cart with a reel and some type of, and then maybe another cart for my
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detailing stuff. Because we have really nice detailing stuff from from
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Griot's and I have used the absolute crap out of both of our
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orbiters now. And I can't find any. I even reached out to Matt from Obsessed
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Garage because he was on our show a long time ago and I had a brief
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conversation with him. I don't think you remembered who the hell I was,
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which is fine. And when it comes to Obsessed Garage,
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Matt is obsessed for everything and he will build you the best
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in, but we're talking $100,000. So we know, obviously, my garage is very
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red, very Milwaukee. And I've been chasing this Milwaukee, like
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work cart for probably six to seven months now for looking for deals and
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sales. And it's funny because at Home Depot, sometimes if you want to
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order it, they'll charge you 500 bucks. But if they happen to have it in
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stock, it's 320 kind of thing. So I, which I hate, but I've been,
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I constantly been looking for it and I knew the setup because I had the
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power washer and I ordered the reel and things like that. And I knew
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kind of what I wanted to do. I knew this would work. I had
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virtually like you gone on and measured every drawer and measured all my tools.
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I knew what I wanted. So I unpopped up in Bellevue this weekend and I
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went and bought it. And then I had the hose reel. So I
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created, well, I'll put a post. I took a photo of it.
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We'll put a picture of it in the, in this post. But I
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finally created it. It's great. It's a little bit bigger than I
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thought it was going to be. But if anything, that's good because I can
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store more stuff. But everything, I cleared out a ton of shelf space by
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getting this on here. The power washer sits on there. The hose reel locks.
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Everything is wired really nice. I found really nice brass fittings.
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A lot of times with these hose reels, when you connect the hose to them,
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the connection, it kinks your hose. So I did some more research and I came
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out of a 90 and went to another 90. So it shot straight back. And so there's
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no kinks in the hose now. So I really, I took my time unlike I
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usually do where I'm like, I need this now. And, you know, so I've been
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building it. I've had everything in my mind. And it only took me
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probably three and a half hours to kind of, you know, the sliding
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drawer comes out. I locked it. I bolted everything through it.
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This is the bottom drawer. This is the bottom sliding drawer. That's the big difference.
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And which is nice. And actually I can, the bolts that came with it are
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really long. And it, and that's kind of stops it from
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sliding out. But it locks too. Which is funny because
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there's nothing, it locks to the cart, but you could literally just unscrew the
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bolt and unlock it. So, but the bolts are hitting a little bit. So I could cut those
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off. I don't really want it to pull out because it would only half
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pulled out as it was. And then it's exposing everything. I also took the
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power washer that I had, which I really love. And I shortened the cord by
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about, oh god, 20 feet. Took about 20 feet. Because I didn't need, it was,
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it was all in the way. It was one more thing. So I bit, and I wired it into
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the cart. So everything, it's just plug it in. Nice. Plug in the water and we're good
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to go. The one thing I didn't account for, which I can
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figure out is when I pull the, when I'm done with the water and I pull it off,
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there are a little bit of water drains out. But there's Milwaukee mats in there.
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And it's all metal. And the holes I did drill in the pan. I put some rust
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stop on it just in case, give it water. But I just put up one of the
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yellow rags under it. It's, you know, it was the only issue I came up with
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at this time. So silicone mat. Yeah, it has a silicone mat, but I'm just saying,
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I don't want that. I mean, it's flat. Yeah, it's flat. So it just sits. Yeah. So it
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doesn't, like I, the first time I did, I, and obviously I just pressure testing it
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throughout the whole process to make sure that all of my fittings were good
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and my Teflon tape was good. And I really took care. I think I learned
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it from you as far as the right way to wrap the Teflon tape so that
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when you screw it on, it doesn't screw itself off. Yeah. So follow the,
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well, hard to describe. You go with the threads. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I have the blue tape,
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if anybody is what the pros use, it's called, I think it's called gorilla tape,
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even though it has no official affiliation to gorilla glue. Yeah. Well, they have
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gorilla tape, which is like duct tape, but then they have gorilla. It's like blue gorilla.
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It's blue Teflon tape, though. And it's definitely a little bit more heavy duty.
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The other stuff's totally fine. But I have, I mean, this is, I'm not pushing
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more than I think 1400 PSIs. If that, I think. Perfect for a gorilla.
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So it's perfect. Like I said, I don't want to take the paint off. But that
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project kind of came together this weekend, which was kind of nice. So, yeah. Nice.
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If you're a fan of automotive and you're a fan of the internet, you know who this crazy, well,
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that nobody, we know who he is now. Yeah. There is a gentleman in the Czech Republic who,
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ironically, have you seen the videos? Yeah, I've seen the car, yeah.
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Okay. But have you seen when he goes back to his house? No. He's a collector of Corvettes, too,
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by the way. Oh, that's funny. In Czech Republic. And the Czech Republic, ZR1, a yellow with black,
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ZR1 with the high wing. I'm getting ahead of myself. The gentleman in the Czech Republic who was
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unnamed and would film this, which I don't quite get, had a Formula 2 car. It's not a Ferrari
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from what they're saying. It is, it is liveried as a Ferrari. But he would take
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these videos and him and his son and people would go out on the freeways with slick tires and go,
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there's a word for it. I don't know what it is now, but they're weaving through traffic and
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things like that. Reckless driving? Well, that's the question. Yeah. He's never hurt anybody.
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And I'm not defending or, you know, accusing, advocating, but the Czech Police Department
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has caught up with him. He's a 51-year-old man. I could tell you his name, but I'm not
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going to be able to pronounce it at this time. But they caught up with him. The ironic part was,
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you know, they kind of knew that they were, that he was kind of getting arrested. Well,
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now he wasn't getting arrested. He was getting followed. And he lives down a dirt road. They
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towed this car and then out on a dirt road, which is kind of funny. And the video's rather
17:42
long. If you look on there and you go, you know, F1 or, you know, Ferrari F1, I don't
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know, I think Ferrari is going to sue him. Ferrari F1 driver, you know, on street. The video
17:52
is interesting because obviously it's not in English, but he made it all the way back to his
17:56
house, which is private property. And then they came out of the property and told them they were
17:59
going to arrest him. And he was very much arguing in the fact that he wasn't, he was on private
18:03
property. And if they needed to ticket him, they could ticket him, but he wasn't getting out of
18:07
the car. But it was the whole thing. He posted everything on the internet. It would probably
18:12
be the easiest prosecution in the world to go, this was you, this is you, this is you,
18:15
this is you. So, you know, use your money wisely, I guess. Yeah, at least put a dealer
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plate on it. Yeah, right. But it's an F2 car. It's not Ferrari. I mean, here's the thing.
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It's not titled the Montana is what you're saying. No, it's not titled in Montana. Out
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of the check. That would even be more fun. That would be hilarious. Montana plates.
18:33
Well, a Montana plate that says Ferrari, non Ferrari. So that's kind of an interesting
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automotive news. Yeah. That's, I've always wanted to do that with a shifter cart.
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Yeah. They're really low, but they're small enough to you can just, I mean,
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people don't really realize how low shifter carts are, but that's why they're so
18:50
fast as they have, they're super low to the ground. And, but you'd hit reflectors and bottom
18:55
out on one of those. But if you could raise wind up just like a few inches, you could have a ride.
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Let's just say it for what it is. We want to be able to drive under a semi.
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Yeah, that's true. I do. Definitely. This is not condoned and don't do it. But yeah. So,
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oh yeah, shifter cart, you'd be, I, you look at some of the crashes that happen in
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shifter carts where they run over each other and things like that. But if you did that
19:18
on the freeway and screwed up and some guy in a Honda Civic ran you over, I mean, you're,
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you're done. Oh, I would want to just do it on some back roads somewhere because you'd be
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taking 20 mile on our corners at 60. I'd want to do it on a freshly paved. Yeah. Yeah. So,
19:30
like find some freshly paved back, black top mountain road somewhere. Yeah, that'd be awesome.
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Pay to close the road. Yeah, that. Yeah, absolutely that. Maybe he'll climb somewhere
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in Idaho. Yeah. Maybe. Oh, you know how rocky that would be to do. That would
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be great. Good. God, you die so quickly flying.
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Cattlegate took off the bottom of the cart and both of your cheeks. So, yeah.
19:55
Our favorite car company in the world is having some issues, Dan.
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Which one? Jaguar Land Rover.
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Man, apparently they've been cyber hacked. The pain just does not stop coming for
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those poor people. No, it's got to be Land Rover that's keeping them alive right now,
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right? It has to be. Because people aren't trying Jaguars. Are Jaguars even for sale?
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That's a good point too. I don't know. They exist, but I don't know. They don't have any new models.
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No. Well, they do. You don't want them. Well, it hasn't been launched yet.
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No, I know officially. But Jaguar Land Rover. Yeah, so they got hacked. Yeah, maybe you
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could explain a little bit more of that because I don't quite understand. They lost all access
20:38
to their invoicing software, literally. They got hacked. It's internal software,
20:44
and they put under ransom, which does happen to companies. They get locked out of their own
20:49
systems. And so now they're literally doing deals on paper, old school way. Welcome back to the
20:54
four boxes. Well, I've heard that the production is shut down until the end of September at
20:59
least, and it might go till November. Yeah. So, even with tariffs and everything,
21:05
you've ordered a new Range Rover or Land Rover, it's going to be delayed. Yeah. So,
21:11
how do I say this? There are a lot of systems out there, a lot of systems out there that are
21:18
so behind on security updates. And this is where that rears its ugly head. I was in a doctor's
21:23
office the other day, and flare up again. Yeah, you know, happens. Yeah. Excessive gas.
21:30
I know, flare up. No, this is for totally something totally different. But I noticed
21:36
their systems were Windows XP machines that I used to install back when I was doing IT and
21:42
helped us support XP. That's like what 2000s early 2000s. Yeah. Yeah, I think one of them
21:49
was warning them to upgrade Vista. And because they run this with what happens is they have
21:55
some proprietary software that was built well at the time hasn't been updated because
21:59
the company that developed it probably went out of business. It's not supported on new machines.
22:04
And so the massive undertaking, this is why the FAA stuck around with their old systems
22:09
for so long. It's the exact same thing. But this is in more places than you think,
22:13
especially in small businesses, clinics, hospitals are the worst for hip compliance,
22:18
by the way. Dental offices. I see it all the time. Yeah, exactly. This stuff's super out
22:22
of date. And while a small medical practice is a pretty low risk target, there's not a
22:27
lot of hackers out there looking specifically to shut down a small clinic. There's not a lot of
22:31
money in it. But if you can find one of these old systems that somebody like Jaguar Land Rover has,
22:36
they certainly have enough money to be a target. Which is interesting to me because obviously
22:42
my brain doesn't work this way. But how do you hold something hostage? I mean, the minute they
22:46
give you the money, then they know where to find you, right? Like, that's encryption.
22:50
Okay. See, again, my brain doesn't work this way. They force an encryption key on it,
22:54
lock them out of the system, and they're the ones with the key. Okay. And they can either
22:58
nuke it or they can release it. Take your pick. It's not in their best interest to nuke it, though.
23:02
No, but it's also like if they're not going to get paid, what's the point in keeping it?
23:06
Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. So they'll probably reach some kind of agreement. A lot of
23:11
times these silently get paid off. People don't talk about that a lot, but they do all the
23:15
time. There's a reason companies like Microsoft and all the big tech companies are insane
23:22
about security, and rightfully so, because there's a target and they're like, this isn't
23:27
something we hear about in the automotive industry that often, but this happened to Audi too, remember?
23:32
So you hack them, you blackmail them, and then you come in posed as IT security and you solve
23:38
the problem. Release the key. Yeah. Somebody who's never going to touch this, you know,
23:43
not even in your country. Oh, interesting. Yeah, this happened to Audi too. I forget
23:49
the name. It was at Bell and Howell. I remember who the company was. I don't want to say the
23:53
wrong name, but another company, their service software, they were using, I think it was
23:58
AutoNation. I think it was just Audi. I think it was AutoNation. A bunch of their dealers
24:02
couldn't do invoicing or service invoicing because that company, the company behind them
24:07
that they use online got hacked. So along these lines, and this is something we've
24:11
talked about and something we need to do, and I'm going with the four scan thing and the
24:14
fact that that code is out there and people were saying, you know, right now you couldn't order it
24:18
because the codes were coming from Russia and things like that. Is that along the same lines?
24:23
I mean, because Ford doesn't really want people doing this, but these codes are sold every day.
24:30
Yeah, it basically is. I mean, this is how every company unlocks ECUs in your car.
24:38
They reverse hack them and then they get into the software and then you can do what you
24:41
want with them for good or for worse or for better for worse, I guess, because in our case,
24:47
it's often to our advantage. Yeah. When as soon as you can hack an ECU, the better.
24:53
I mean, it's up to you not to literally blow your engine because you easily can,
24:57
but four scan, not so much. A lot of these dealer softwares.
25:00
That's Ford's actual tool. We just happen to know people that have codes that can get
25:04
into it, right? No, four scan is an aftermarket tool. Oh, okay. Ford has their own tool.
25:09
Oh, I thought it was Ford scan. Yeah. I mean, that's what it's for. Okay.
25:13
Four scan. I forget the rant, the Dodge one, but it's basically it's a tool that allows you access to
25:18
Ram scan. Yeah. Nope. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, four scans like an open source project that's based
25:25
out of Russia. So, you know, who knows, maybe our cars will explode one day, but probably not.
25:30
It's been around forever. They're not going to hack our cars.
25:32
No, never. No, no. Yeah. Four scan.org is the Ford one. And it's, no, it's a third party software.
25:40
Oh, okay. I thought somebody had basically hacked the Ford software and then was selling out the
25:45
codes for people because. Yeah. No, it's Ford Mazda and Lincoln and Mercury. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So,
25:51
interesting. Learn something new. Yeah. Same time. It's sort of, you know, that's probably an
25:56
interest, a difficult struggle for manufacturers because it's sort of in their best interest
26:00
to not shut it down because a lot of people really, really want four scan to work. And you would be,
26:06
you would, you would legitimately have upset customers if you couldn't because there's a lot
26:09
of things you want to change that Ford can't because of DOT regulation, things like that,
26:14
like turning off your seatbelt chimes is a big one. And people have really good reasons for
26:19
doing this. Like you can put a little buckle thing in there, but it's a lot nicer just to
26:22
have it in your software. But if you carry stuff in your seats all the time, like if you're,
26:26
a lot of people do for passenger passenger stuff, it's annoying as hell. You have a big dog in the back,
26:32
which they do now have ones that secure into your seat belts, but that can be super annoying.
26:37
This is for animals and things like that. Do not do this for people. Right. Yeah.
26:42
So I hate that we have to say that, but don't do this. So, but I mean, a lot of it's just
26:46
preference to, you know, we've talked about this before changing the way your lights look,
26:49
changing the way your doors operate, you know, operate. But my favorite one is,
26:53
you know, unlocking features you normally can't because you can do a lot of this stuff in
26:57
Audi and things like that. Like Audi was the first one where you had, they have those amazing lights
27:01
that can go forever. Like your lights in the US are super detuned. I forget there. I think they're
27:06
called Prism. I can't remember the name of it, but like you, if you have access to the Audi
27:11
software, you can turn all those European features on and they automatically dim. They
27:15
actually work really well, but they have, because they haven't gone through DOT official
27:19
like checkbox yet, they're not enabled. Same with Ford. Yeah. Cause what you don't realize is,
27:25
when a company, an automotive company puts stuff onto an ECU, they put everything. Like a lot of
27:31
people were doing this with F-150 trucks and they would be able to put like the raptor screens and
27:35
stuff like that up there. So, cause it's on everything. And if it's not, you can download
27:39
it and put it on there. But it scares me just because, I mean, I'm fine with having people
27:43
like you or Michael help me with stuff like that, but it scares me in the fact that I
27:47
don't want to screw something up that blows up my engine kind of thing. Yeah, they have
27:50
pretty good instructions about making a backup first. I don't want to rehash this to death,
27:53
but like you definitely want to make a backup first. And then if you want to try something out,
27:57
luckily, there's a lot of people who are really comfortable doing this and there's usually
27:59
a lot of great videos online. I think Tesla, it's kind of funny. Tesla sort of embraced it.
28:05
Their software isn't totally open source, but it's very customizable, custom sounds,
28:09
custom screens, things that that's all built in. Like the whoopee cushion. Yeah.
28:13
Yeah. The whoopee cushion. Hey, Tesla, open my butthole and that opens the charging port,
28:17
like crazy stuff like that, which is hilarious to me. It's so juvenile and it's like,
28:21
you know, have some fun with it. I'm glad people are having fun, even if it sounds,
28:24
you know, even if it's crude to you. I'm glad they're like, just make it stupid.
28:28
Yeah. Make it so. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. Oh, what else?
28:34
My brain is fried from work this week. It's been so. It's Wednesday. I know.
28:39
That says a lot. Well, learning a lot of software engineering stuff that I
28:43
haven't touched in many, many years. Like I've done relearning. Yes. Well, it's,
28:47
it's updating. Like a lot of the coding work I have, I've, you know, I've done is 20 plus years
28:50
old now. Oh, your brain's running on XP. Got it. Yeah. Exactly. You're exactly right.
28:55
My brain is still configuring BlackBerry Enterprise servers and
28:59
figuring out the OSI model, you know, and now I'm like, you know,
29:03
you know, relearning everything new about Visual Studio and, yeah, pipelines and releases
29:08
and anyway, it's fine. Your brain works well on that stuff. You'll get it. Oh,
29:12
yeah, yeah. It's fine. I'm enjoying the new challenge in ways. I mean, it's fun because I
29:18
forgot how much I actually liked doing the stuff back in the day, doing it for works,
29:22
a whole different story, but, you know, versus for fun, but I'm trying to think what else.
29:26
I got new tools again. Well, yeah, we talked about the air compressors last week.
29:30
Yeah. I got the M12 stuff. I talked about that. Yeah, I did because it was a sale.
29:34
Yeah. That's been kind of fun. And I put a new lock on my door the other day,
29:38
just look, it's all those little times I get to use a tool. So,
29:40
oh, here's the phone inside a deadbolt seize. Never had that happen before. Literally could
29:45
not move with a key. I took the lock off, could not get it slide. It was like stuck in the door.
29:50
And like deadbolts are cheap. It was like 30 bucks for a new one. And this one,
29:53
every door in this house doesn't fit right. I've had to fit and refit every door in the house.
29:56
And the one I haven't got to yet, the block broke, like the whole mechanism broke.
30:00
So I couldn't get the deadbolt open. So I grabbed my carbide bits and my
30:03
cutoff tool and I literally just cut through the deadbolt. Those things are freaking strong.
30:08
That steel is hard. It must stop you from getting in. Yeah. Thank God for carbide bits
30:13
and a cutoff tool though. That's awesome. Like I had to cut through it in the door
30:16
and then finally, once I chunked it out piece by piece, I got it to open and replace it.
30:21
Replacing it took me five minutes once I got it out. But man, I love having the right tool
30:24
for the job. Do you remember when I was in the mountain bikes? I know I get into things.
30:28
And you gave me that chain lube that you had forever. Yeah. That works really well
30:32
in deadbolts. My deadbolt seized a couple of weeks ago and I took it apart and put
30:36
a few drops of that in there and it works so smooth now. Like the whole thing's better.
30:41
Local company shout out to Demondi Tech, Demond Tech, depending who you want. I've worked with them
30:46
for 30 years, been running their products and I still, they're still the best chain lube out
30:50
there. It's a little messy, but if you do it under the right conditions with a warm chain,
30:53
man, this stuff is awesome. Well, it was just like magic. I don't have a WD-40. I was like,
30:57
we'll see if this works. If it works, great. If it doesn't, you know,
30:59
chain loop all the time, took it out, clean it up a little bit, put two drops on there
31:03
and that thing is so smooth now. It's not even, yeah, it's great. I'll tell you. Yeah,
31:09
we're like, what am I still going to do next in here? There's always more stuff. I mean,
31:14
I think the OCD side of you has to get a place for everything. Like everything has to go in
31:18
its place and then you can kind of figure out what you want to do because like that's
31:22
happening pretty quickly. But yeah, no, no, I know it is. But my point is like,
31:26
once the compressors get away from the front of the door and go to their spot
31:29
and things like that, that's where, you know, yeah, Brian can pick up your compressor. Jesus,
31:34
I'm moving into a new house. My, my water pipes are full of shit. Sorry, Brian.
31:42
Yeah, let's go to the, let's see the listener mails. I've got everybody's. Todd, of course,
31:46
reached out. So you need a GT4 when I was talking about cars. Oh, I mean, he's not wrong. He's
31:51
not wrong, especially like the rev matching manual. Is he paying for it? I know. That's
31:55
right. Yeah, he should send me one of those. Yeah. What else here? Hold on one second here.
32:00
I got a Google voice message. Yeah, I love it when our listeners Google voice message me.
32:05
Google voice message me. Yeah. Nathan Muntz shout out. He said, now this is funny.
32:11
He goes, you should do a score about C7 Ferrari or Safari, not Ferrari, C7 Safari goes modify it.
32:20
I don't hate that idea. Yeah, well, except that it's all fiberglass. I'd be a little
32:23
nervous about beating on the chassis too much, like cracking it, but they've taken
32:28
it. They're pretty strong. So can we take like a blazer chassis, put a Corvette engine in it?
32:34
LT four swap. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, but, but hold on. But then we kind of
32:40
chop the roof and then an off-road car should have a chopped roof. Okay. He goes, because
32:45
I'm a masochist, I thought about trying to Safari a VH platform, Aston Martin Vantage,
32:50
because they've got, they've gotten pretty cheap. I don't have the time for yet another
32:53
project. I mean, someone else tried to pull it off in Eastern Europe somewhere.
32:58
It's like, I mean, that would be so it could be done. I mean, when I keep thinking of a
33:04
Safari and like British cars, I think of the green Jag that was the villain car in
33:11
the James Bond movie on ice. Oh yeah. So they did it there. Yeah, it could be done.
33:18
I mean, I've seen a bunch of people have tried to do it with these, like the first
33:21
version on the R8 didn't work well. No. I mean, now that you've got the, the,
33:26
what's the Lamborghini, the Sturrata? Sturrata. Sturrata. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
33:30
same thing. That'd be fun. Gravel roads though, really.
33:34
Still be fun. Yeah. I'll figure it out. Yeah. I'm still, still looking for ideas.
33:39
I like it with something. Just, I think you go back to your roots. I think,
33:43
I think commuter car, we find you, S2000 that needs some love. Great, great for you there.
33:50
And then you go, you get a, you get a C7, Z06. You could even go, you could even go
33:55
anti Dan Speck and go all black. That was every car I had before. I know. That's what I'm
34:01
saying. We'd go, you know, too many white cars around here. My GTR was black. My C63 was black.
34:06
My C6, Z06 was black. Yeah. But in, in, in our friend circle and, and mostly avance,
34:12
Dan Speck is white. Panda. Panda. It's really panda. Panda with red stitching and red
34:18
brake calipers. And then I did, in the Turbo S I did the acid green just because I liked the way
34:22
that looked and it was a fact. I really love that. I would do that again. That car stay local.
34:27
Sort of. It went to a guy in Yakima. Oh, that's right. And then he bought a 720.
34:30
That's right. It came back. Okay. All right. It went back. Yeah. Then it went back to
34:35
McLaren, Bellevue. I don't know where it's from, where it went from there. Currently
34:38
there, yeah. McLaren's cranking out the special edition cars. They had that
34:42
new 750 kind of like Lark edition looking one that came out with that new
34:47
wing on the back, which I kind of dig. Yeah. Yeah.
34:52
McLaren's another one of those companies I wish would just get their shit together
34:55
because they make the best chassis out there with the car I'm scared to drive the most
34:58
because not because it's scary to drive, because it's probably not going to get me there.
35:02
And that, and that's, I just, I've seen the downtime, you know, I'm still talking to,
35:06
you know, our friends over at One Drivers Club, a lot of McLaren's in there,
35:10
and everybody loves driving them. And I don't, they are fantastic to drive, but
35:14
you know, we should get Kevin on, because he's had the experience of both the 675 and the 720.
35:20
Yeah, I've talked to Kevin. I mean, and that'd be good. Getting back on here and kind of talk
35:26
about McLaren ownership. I'd be curious, because I mean, Kevin's the kind of guy that knows
35:31
when he buys a car, he knows the maintenance, what it's going to cost him, and he doesn't
35:35
accept any more than that, which I think is good. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good problem to have,
35:41
good decision fatigue to have. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We should go, that's almost over. I was
35:48
going to say the Avant Social at Salish Lodge was tonight. Shout out to Chris Roberts as usual,
35:52
such a good dude. Go visit Chris over at Salish Lodge. He's the man, and he will take care of you
35:58
there. Speaking of new people, Avant San Francisco, opening up, they're hiring down there. Oh,
36:05
I missed that one. Yeah, they just announced that. They're just, Adam just announced that,
36:09
I should say they're hiring for Avant San Francisco. So more regions. So I think they're still looking
36:16
for a marketing person. They were doing interviews. Yeah, doing interviews. We talked about there
36:20
was San Diego, San Diego. Oh, it was, it was San Francisco or San Diego? I thought it was San
36:25
Diego. Oh, it's San Diego. That's why I was like San Diego, San Francisco, but okay. Yeah,
36:30
my bad. So Avant San Diego is hiring. That makes, okay, I was, I was like, boy,
36:34
we're going to conquer California. Yeah. Okay. Reading. Coming before you know it. Just kidding.
36:40
Fresno. Sacramento. Funny as hell. So I am down in Portland. I don't know where I look up in the
36:48
sky. What do I see? The Goodyear blimp. Sure. I was like, is there more than one of those?
36:55
I have no idea, but I sent it to Tom Nalt, which I haven't talked to in forever. And I did.
36:58
I sent it to him and I was like, I was like, you know, I said, I haven't talked to you
37:01
in a long time. I was like, but for some reason the Goodyear blimp is in the sky and I had to show
37:05
you. So I took a picture of it. I forgot about that. So if you're not reading the Exotics at
37:10
Redbentown Center blog that Tom Nalt puts out, he talks about parking the Goodyear blimp. And Tom's
37:16
been in the Goodyear blimp. Yes, he has. Yeah. He's got friends in that there. So yeah. Yeah.
37:20
So that's like the day I figured out that the wiener mobility were multiple wiener mobiles.
37:25
I know it's heartbreaking. I know. You know, they don't think it's the only one
37:29
wiener. There's some multiple wieners. It's not a fun situation. Applying to drive one of those.
37:33
They don't get paid very much. They don't get paid very much. They don't get paid very much.
37:36
And I'm sure the wiener jokes. And I think I don't think the per diem, per diem for
37:39
foods very much. You got to eat hot dogs. So they're not even Tosca dogs. Well,
37:46
my baloney has a first name. Fun fact, baloney is hot dogs. Hot dogs is baloney.
37:51
What? No. Stop. I need a giant hot dog the size of baloney. Yeah. Okay. Probably have.
37:59
Got you covered. I'll fry up some baloney for you. Oh God. No. Spam. No. I love spam.
38:03
Summer sausage. That's the one I was thinking of. That's what like my grandfather used to
38:07
make is summer sausage. That was good. So yeah. Good times. Yeah. Anyway, that's enough about
38:11
our meat. Yeah. Jesus. Just end on that. Yeah, why not? Okay. Well, as usual,
38:19
this ADHD episode of the Avans podcast is that's the end for the Avans podcast. I'm Nick.
38:26
I'm Dan. And don't just get there. Enjoy the meat.