The episode dives into the growing need for auto mechanics and the importance of maintaining vehicles for longevity. Nick Stoffel from Lloyd's Automotive discusses the challenges of attracting young talent to the automotive trade and shares tips for making vehicles last, including regular maintenance and inspections. Listeners also receive practical advice on buying used cars, addressing common issues like carbon buildup in modern engines, and the significance of using top-tier fuel. The conversation is filled with listener questions, providing insights into various automotive concerns.
There are major benefits of seeking a career as an auto mechanic. The importance of cleaning carbon in your vehicle. Broken gas gauge. How long can a vehicle last with proper maintenance? Solving radio issues. Investigating electrical problems. Getting a vehicle started after years of being idle. What to know before buying a used vehicle. Are catalytic converter thefts still a big issue? Signs to get a new battery. Ask our car care expert Nick Stoffel of Lloyds Automotive. Visit lloydsautomotive.net 651-228-1316.
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Tom, once again to talk problems with your car, your truck, your van, and what you can do about it, what may be ailing.
Nick Stoffel's back with us from Lloyd's Automotive in St. Paul. Nick, good morning.
Good morning, Denny.
How are you and things at Lloyd's this past week busy as usual, I presume?
Yeah, we're, as you know, we're pretty fortunate. We stay pretty busy. We have a good group of customers that keep us full, so we don't mind that.
Again, if you have any problems and you want to know what could be ailing your vehicle before you're bringing in, why don't you call Nick or Tex-Nik?
And we always like to say do it sooner rather than later. Our time goes by so quickly, Nick takes his leave about 7.45.
So call us or text us any kind of a car question we'll do.
6-5-1-4-6-1-9-2-2-6.
You're talking about being busy and I was driving. I can't remember exactly where it was. It wasn't far from my home.
But there was evidently a shop somewhere nearby because there was a sign said mechanics wanted, you know, auto mechanics wanted.
Is that still an issue? I mean, are there plenty to choose from or do you have to do some searching?
No, it's a little bit of work and, you know, I think a lot of the skilled trades we struggle with keeping or getting enough people into the industry.
You know, I know it's always had a unique position in the world of hierarchy with work and such.
But, you know, young people get in any one of the trades, you know, you can get trained within a couple of years.
You get minimal school debt, you know, we get paid really good wages, retirement, you know, if you can start working on your retirement when you're 20,
which is not something you're thinking about when you're 20, but I promise you 40 years later you're going to think,
boy, I'm really glad I did that. That's my story, you know, the only way I could ever have gotten Lloyd's is because,
you know, right out of the Marine Corps, Dan told me how to start doing this thing called retirement and saving some money.
And because I'd done that for 20 some years, I had enough money to get the opportunity to buy Lloyd's.
So, you know, it's not what you're thinking when you're young, you know, nor should you be, maybe, but you know,
he told me to set it aside and don't think about it.
One day it'll be there for you and it's done wonders.
So, you know, I can't say enough about our industry.
There is definitely a shortage.
So if there's young folks out there looking for a career path, go check out the trade schools.
Take a tour, talk to your, you know, counselors at your high school even.
And this, you know, a lot of the high school have an automotive program.
Give you a little taste of it to see if it's something you might be interested in.
You know, those that are interested in it and, you know, go to your neighborhood shop,
get a part-time job after school.
So you're around the folks and around the stuff and see if it's a good fit.
If it's a good fit, you know, pursue it.
You know, it's, you got to try.
That's for sure.
That's a great idea.
Plus, so we're fortunate to have some pretty good tech schools around this area.
Right.
Oh, we really are, you know, I've, you know, I live in St.
Paul and we have the St.
Paul College there and I went to Dunwoody and there's Dakota County,
Hennepin, you know, there's a whole, you know, I think every, you know,
century colleges at every corner of the metropolitan area,
there's a technical school that has automotive and many other traits of that
matter.
So, you know, I think, I think it's a good path where a lot of these folks
are getting into their senior years of high school.
They don't really have a plan yet.
Go check them out.
You know, maybe it's not a great fit, but you might not,
may not realize what you're missing out on.
You might think this is a good fit for you.
Might be a pleasant surprise.
Absolutely.
I'm looking at a Texan.
So, by the way, 6514619226, your car care question for Nick.
Most, this text says, most new cars in the last 10 years are direct
injection and have turbo.
In your service shop, do you see a lot of these cars having excessive carbon
buildup or head gasket issues?
I've read the way to reduce this effect is frequent oil changes using
top-tier gas and minimizing excessive short trips as well as doing the other
regular maintenance.
What do you think about that comment?
I think it's right on.
Direct injection is something that's in most vehicles now.
And what they're talking about this carbon buildup is before that,
the fuel injectors were on the outside of the combustion chamber.
So they're in the cylinder head, and they would spray fuel on the back side
of the valve, and then the valve would open and would send that air
and fuel mixture into the engine and they'd have combustion.
Well, since they've changed and moved that injector inside the combustion
chamber, there's no fuel on the backside to wash that intake valve.
So this carbon that's coming through the engine starts to collect somewhere
and oftentimes it's on the back of those intake valves over thousands
of miles that will start to build up and collect and it can affect the airflow.
So we will see some issues with idling and running and drivability problems.
There are products out there that help you clean those items.
I think they're right on.
The frequent oil changes, a good quality fuel.
The short trips depends on your life.
If you live in the interstate and you don't get out much, it's just part of your life.
But there are products that can be used as maintenance along the way to help minimize that.
So if you have a newer vehicle and you are concerned next year for service,
just mention they were talking about this induction cleaning.
Is it something that's important for my vehicle?
And you can kind of hear them out and get a better understanding of it.
Yeah, good question.
Let's grab some phone calls.
Nick, Kevin, first up, you're calling from Waseke, I believe.
Kevin, you're on with Nick.
Yes, a very good morning to you.
I have my 07 Chevy Silverado.
The gas gauge basically is stuck on empty, no matter how much fuel I put in.
What procedures should I go through?
Is there any preliminary checks to see where the problem might be?
Does the fuel tank have to be dropped and the gauge or the float or whatever is in there?
Taken out, what procedures should I go through?
Well, I would find a wired diagram to see if you can have a connection point
where you don't have to remove the fuel tank.
You know, likely there's really three areas.
You know, there's that float, as you mentioned, as part of the fuel sender,
which is in the fuel tank.
That's the little float that goes up and down as your fuel level adjusts.
It sends the impedance of the resistance through the wiring up to the gauge.
There could be a problem with the wiring.
You know, it's got a few years on it.
Maybe something was nibbling on it or it got pinched or something.
So that's a possibility, or the gauge itself.
So I would find the wiring diagram.
Find that point where you can measure the impedance, the resistance of that circuit
and try to figure out if it's higher or low.
A lot of times there's things called gauge testers,
which maybe you can rent or borrow from somewhere where you can actually change the resistance
and see if the gauge, the fuel gauge goes with that.
But ultimately, if there is a problem within that sending unit,
the fuel tank does have to come down, you know, back to the point
that that car's got some years on it.
Now we start to worry about those tank straps, rust and such.
So just make sure you do your diligence on the front side.
You're not taking something apart that you don't need to, you know,
in case you're in a smidge with rust and making that job a little more complicated.
All right.
Thanks, Kevin.
Let's grab another one.
Randy calling in from Minneapolis this morning.
Randy, thanks for the call.
What is your question for Nick?
See, I have a motorhome that we just purchased
and could use a little more horsepower and torque
Do the updates to the PCMs that you can buy make sense or work?
Or is it a smart thing or is it worth the money?
All good questions.
And, you know, especially on a motorhome, I don't know much.
But my opinion would be anytime we change something from where it was originally designed,
you run the risk of damaging other things.
So you're increasing the horsepower or the torque, you know,
so the engine's, you know, a little more lively.
But the drivetrain, you know, the transmission,
the drive shafts, the axles, all these other things.
When they design these vehicles, any vehicle for that matter,
all that's taken into consideration.
Now, not saying they can't handle a little bit more and maybe it can,
but you just run the risk of damaging other things
or putting more undue stress on other components and systems.
So I'd be very careful, do a lot of research,
talk to some of these outfits in town that work on these vehicles
and see what their experiences are.
I'm sure you're well aware of motorhomes not going to ever be really peppy.
You know, it's more for the crews.
So I would just do a lot of homework and be careful
because you don't want to go and end up damaging the engine or the turbo
or, you know, it just makes matters much more expensive and complicated.
Very good.
Nick, we're in need of a break.
We'll do a quick one and invite our listeners to join in.
If you have any kind of a car care question, let's hear from you.
Early rather than late, 6-5-1, 4-6-1, 9-2-2-6.
62 degrees in Twin Cities, a chance of showers probably after lunch or so.
With a daytime high today.
In fact, we're going to be pretty much in the 70s, 73 today.
Pretty much daytime highs in the 70s all week long.
Again, 62 now on A3O, WCCO.
Hey, good morning.
Welcome back to this portion of CCO's Car Care Show.
Denny along here, along with Nick Stoffel
from Lloyd's Automotive in St. Paul.
I know where it is, Nick, as you know,
because I just don't stay away.
But for those folks that need the help from Lloyd's,
how do we find you guys?
Absolutely.
First of all, if you have a question, we will always help you.
You can ask us before you take it into your local shop or dealership.
You can reach us at 6-5-1-228-1316.
If you happen to be in St. Paul, we're on the corner of Grand
and Chanceworth, which is 9-8-2 Grand Avenue.
And finally, you can check out our website, which is LloydsAutomotive.net.
Plenty of places to walk and snack and coffee and stuff like that.
It's a great location for sure.
We'll get you that information before Nick leaves us, which is about 745.
So call us or text us with your Car Care Question at 6-5-1-4-6-1-9-2-2-6.
Here is another one, a 2015 town and country with 98,000 miles on it.
Text here says, I hope to make this my last vehicle.
Do you think with proper maintenance,
the town and country can inherently last 20 years, 20 plus years,
or is there a built-in obsolescence there
with some makes of vehicles that kind of prohibits longevity?
What do you think, Bill's question?
I don't think so.
I think if you maintain a vehicle and you do all the little things,
you know, keep it clean and washed, keep all the salt off of it,
follow the maintenance schedule.
Obviously, as it gets older and the mileage gets higher,
things will change a little bit.
But I've always felt that, you know, you buy a vehicle,
you have a loan for five years on it,
things are pretty easygoing,
and then you might have a couple years
when you're not spending a whole lot of money.
Then you might hit a moment
where there's some larger maintenance or a couple breakdowns.
But I feel like after you get through that little hump,
you get some more time again.
So it kind of goes in cycles.
And I feel, I believe the average age of the car
on the road is over 12 years now.
I, you know, we see cars all the time are 15 years old,
and it's amazing the condition that they're in.
You know, I've been doing this long enough
where cars used to be five years old and they'd be rusty.
And you know, if you do those little things
over a long period of time, it really does make a difference.
So I think if that's your goal
and you follow the maintenance interval,
use quality parts, keep it clean,
I think you have a real good chance
of getting that meeting at 20 years.
Yeah, I believe so.
Listener wants to know what would cause radio issues
on a 2015 Subaru where the volume randomly adjust
or the station randomly changes back and forth
to the previous station.
We don't want changes in stations.
We want that thing started on A3O killer.
Yes, we do.
Or 1029 and then HD2, which is great too.
What do you think, what would you guys do?
Well, we'd try to figure out, you know,
the first question you have is that something
that's built on it, that the buttons are sticking,
you know, unfortunately with radios,
typically it's not a whole lot of repair
outside of the unit itself, but try to duplicate.
You know, the first thing with any problem
with the car is confirmed customer's concern.
So we want to try to duplicate what's happening,
try to figure out why, maybe there's controls
on the steering wheel, right?
You know, sometimes cars have like
radial controls on the steering wheel,
something's built there and the buttons are sticky,
you know, so it can be an easy fix sometimes.
But you know, like I said, with the radio
or nav system, oftentimes those systems
are all in one unit and there's not much repair
you can do sure to replace in them.
So let's make sure it's not,
assume it's that, let's check out that steering wheel,
let's check out these other areas,
make sure we don't have an underlying problem,
but unfortunately if that continues to happen,
it might ultimately be that whole nav radio system there.
Okay, there's a question about a 2012 Jeep Liberty
with lots of electrical issues,
one of them, no horn or security system.
Any suggestions for an aftermarket horn setup?
Well, I would try to figure out why.
You know, if we have a lot of underlying electrical issues,
you know, it's possible there's more than one problem
or it's more likely there's one problem
affecting a lot of things.
So we know the horn's not working,
the security systems have some problems,
oftentimes the security system uses the horn,
so there's one connection there.
Let's figure out what those rustles' concerns are,
see how they're all connected, go to that area,
print the wiring diagram, check fuses,
powers, grounds, contacts, connections, relays,
likely one of those pieces has failed,
which isn't horribly expensive,
and then you, you know,
you might spend some time trying to diagnose it,
but the fix might not be horribly expensive,
and then all of a sudden things back working
where it was, I always worry about switching
to aftermarket or second, the third party type stuff
where now you start to make, you know,
you're trying to fix a horn,
but like I mentioned, it's connected to the security system,
so now if this is not compatible,
maybe we have another problem.
So you have to be careful, you just don't,
you know, keep your eye on the one thing,
there might be other things affected by that system,
so be very cautious as you go forward.
I absolutely would suggest that somebody go in there,
see how all these items are connected,
and likely the problem is where you'll find the problem.
I'm looking at a text about recommending,
various recommendations for top tier gas.
What is that?
I looked that up one time, and it's, you know,
they're brand name stations, big name gas companies.
Where I go is a big name, but it's not top tier.
Is that a marketing thing,
or is there some good points with that?
I think, you know, I think most of the big players in town
have their different fuels, octanes,
you know, they're different additives,
I guess the best way to put it,
and I think that they do spend a lot of money
in the research to find products
that work best for our vehicles.
My advice has always been, you know,
when you're getting fuel, you try to use a place
that's always busy, that way, you know,
they have a fresh tank of fuel, you know,
they're going through a lot of fuel.
You know, there's only a couple of refineries in town,
and there's hundreds of gas stations in town,
so they're coming from only a couple places.
That being said, they do have different additive packages,
and there's some variances.
I don't know the finite detail to it,
but, you know, I know some of these top tier
and some of these other things
that they like to label on their fuel
is talking about how they've made it different
than their peers, right?
And if you have a particular brand fuel
that your car seems to like
and gets a little better gas mileage, stick with it.
You know, if you have another brand that,
you know, maybe you get the feeling
that it's not running as well as it should,
you can change it.
You're not stuck with anything,
but the best advice I can give you
is in the owner's manual,
it's going to tell you what level octane to use.
That's what you should use.
Go to a busy fueling station
that seems to go through a lot of fuel,
so you know, they have a fresh supply of fuel.
Your car will appreciate that,
and that would be, I guess, my two main points on that.
Yeah, makes sense.
This listener has a vehicle
that has not been started in four years.
What steps should I take before getting it going again?
Oh, wow.
You know, check the oil level for sure.
You know, check all the fluids that you can.
You know, in this, you know,
get a good strong battery in there,
or get a booster on there.
You know, you can fire it up.
It might make a little bit of noise for a moment or two.
Anything more than that, I would probably shut it off,
but if it's just a few moments
where things are lubricated
and starting to move around a little bit,
you know, power steering might wind a little bit.
You know, these things have been sitting,
they're going to be a little cranky, right?
So I would just take it slow, let it run.
Once you get it running, you know,
hopefully it's outside or open that door,
let the fresh air in, let it run for a few minutes.
Maybe let it try to work its way up to running temp
before you do drive it.
You know, obviously pumping the brakes a little bit.
We try creeping out of the garage,
make sure you have good brake control there.
You know, if it's been sitting,
we worry about the conditions of the pads
and the rotors and the ability to stop the vehicle.
So just take it very slowly,
let it run for a few minutes.
Make sure it gets up to running temp.
At that point, you know, pump on the brake pedal,
make sure you have a good firm brake pedal,
you know, back it out of that garage or stall.
Real slow, make sure you can stop.
You know, I wouldn't hit the highway anytime soon.
I would probably, at that point, make an appointment,
have somebody give it a good once
over, make sure there's no underlying problems
that can cause an issue for you.
But that being said, hopefully it'll fire up
and have no issues.
Yeah, good luck with that, what a story.
All right, hang on, Nick.
We'll take a break for weather and be right back.
Nick will be with us till just about 7.45,
any kind of a car care question, we have more to come.
Call us, text us, 651-461-9226.
The weather's straight ahead here.
On News Talk 830, this is WCCO.
And welcome back to CCO's Car Care Show here every Saturday
in the right after the seven o'clock news break.
Nick Stoffel, who runs a place called Lloyds Automotive
on Granite Avenue in St. Paul,
again answering any kind of a car care question
you may have, and we've got a bunch yet, Nick.
Here's another one via text.
Any tips for buying a 10-plus year old used vehicle?
Well, you know the answer to that.
With any vehicle that's pre-owned,
you're gonna have that assess inspected,
obviously, of the cars.
Only, you know, three, four, five years old.
We still wanna look at tires and brakes
and some of that maintenance stuff to see.
Make sure you know what you're buying.
A car gets up at older, 10 years or longer.
We wanna try to look at the longevity.
See if we can forecast or see any signs
of something that's coming down the road.
The real point of having that used vehicle inspection
is to inform you as much as we can about the vehicle
so when you're negotiating the price of the terms,
you have a little more information
to kind of help you through that.
And like, you know, the cost of used vehicles
is so high that I think it's almost a necessity.
The one thing I always tell people
if you're looking to buy a used vehicle
and they don't want you having something to look at it,
that's a big no-no, so it's a red flag.
So if someone won't let you have the vehicle
looked over and inspected,
I would probably move on to the next one,
but I think you'll find that most dealerships and shops
or local places will allow you to have that car
inspected by your mechanic
and absolutely do that before you go ahead and buy that car.
How would you find, if you're new to the area
and you need some auto service,
how do you find, if you haven't ever established service
with someplace, how do you find someplace
that you know and trust?
Well, you know, that's a great question
and you know, I guess the obvious answers are,
talk to your neighbors, your co-workers.
You know, if you have kids in school,
talk to their parents, you can look online,
which is always a little bit slippery slope.
As we all know, you gotta be careful what you read.
But you know, we're really big
on being a community-based business.
We'd like to be part of our neighborhood,
we'd like to participate in our neighborhood.
So if you're moving into a neighborhood
that has that feel, I'm pretty sure
if you're not gonna look too far to find,
you know, your auto mechanic, your dry cleaners,
your pharmacy, all those things,
are somewhere in your neighborhood.
So you just have to ask around, walk around,
take for a drive and take a look, you know,
you see a shop, you know, look them up online,
look at their reviews, look at their website,
you know, just do a little homework.
And the last thing you do is go and talk to them.
So hey, I'm new to the neighborhood,
this is the kind of car I have,
can you help me?
And have a short conversation with those folks
and if it's a good fit, maybe you found something,
if it's not a good fit,
go out into the next place and do the same thing,
talk to them and build that relationship.
Cause you know, I've been at Lloyd's since what, 1998,
and it's amazing how many people,
we just had a customer that was in there this week
and his customer number 82, you know,
not all of our customers are activating more obviously,
but you know, it keeps them running tally,
we're at over 36,000 customers that have been
in our system and this customer is number 82.
So think about that, you know,
that person's coming there longer than I've been there,
you know, maybe longer than Dan's been there, I don't know.
But it's awesome, you know, and like I said,
you know, you find that feeling in your neighborhood,
at your local shop, you find a good thing,
so I would go there.
Very good.
Listener sent this text,
Nick, my minivan has been pulling to the right
on a road trip, tires, alignment, front end are all fine.
I was told it may be caused by the fact
that the van is heavily loaded, is that possible?
It may be, you know, typically when we align a vehicle,
it's empty, you know, you add a little extra weight,
you know, you put some more people in there
and then things are gonna change a little bit,
you know, there's a crown on the road too,
so it's going to drift or favor going to the right hand side,
that's by design, but you know,
if it's pulling itself into the ditch,
you know, maybe there's something more going on,
depending on how heavily loaded,
what's the capacity of the vehicle,
what kind of stress are we putting
on the suspension and tires,
can you move some of that load of the vehicle
to the other side of the vehicle,
maybe makes a difference.
So there's a few things that need to be looked at there,
but yeah, typically when you align in a vehicle, it's empty,
so when you go and fill it all up,
things are gonna change a bit,
but be careful because what you're gonna ultimately do
is affect how those tires wear,
you don't want to prematurely wear your tires
because tires are very expensive,
so I would have that looked at in the near future
to see if there's a better solution.
Yeah, tires are costly for sure.
Question we posed once in a while
but a listener sent this one in,
are catalytic converters have still an issue
don't hear much about it in the news?
You know, this is kind of like that movie,
Beetlejuice, if you say it three times,
something bad's gonna happen,
so I would say it is much better,
but it seems like every time we talk about it,
we have a few, so let's not talk about it,
assume that the new laws and maybe people moved on
or figured out that that's not a good thing to do,
but I would say in our communities where we're at,
it seems to have gotten much better than it,
clearly way better than when it was at its peak,
but I don't think we've seen much of it as of late
and hopefully it'll stay that way.
I hope so, good question.
2003 Tahoe, when the fuel gauge shows a quarter left,
it won't start, but two and three gallons in it,
it'll start, what might it be?
I don't know, there's fuel in the tank,
it should make it, unless there's some sort of restriction
of the fuel getting out of the tank,
maybe the gauge is inaccurate,
just trying to figure out what kind of scenarios,
obviously if there's fuel, there's a fuel line there,
a fuel pump there, they're all working,
the car should be getting feeling starting.
So I wonder if the gauge is inaccurate,
or I wonder if there's a baffle or something
preventing the fuel to make its way
where it needs to be when it's that low.
So there's a couple thoughts there,
obviously somebody can test the gauge,
test the sending units, probably the first place
to start, I also would challenge that,
figure out what is the capacity of the tank,
and then when you're, it's at a quarter tank,
but you're filling it up, it's a 15 gallon tank,
it takes 15 gallons, well then it wasn't
at a quarter tank, it was empty, right?
So you can do a little homework that way on your own,
ultimately you might need to bring it in
and have them do a little bit deeper digging though.
All right, see we have time for one more, I would say.
Here's a 2003 Toyota Avalon, have not changed the plugs
for at least 150,000 miles, still running good,
still getting 30 miles per gallon on the highway,
is it worth 700 bucks to replace the plugs?
Yes it is, those plugs are worn out,
if there's 150,000 miles on it, they might still be working,
but you're not getting the optimal field economy,
the emissions have changed a bit,
and the other thing you do,
you put a lot of stress on those ignition coils,
because what will happen eventually
is that the gap in the plug will get large enough
where it's gonna put too much stress on the coil
and it can't create enough voltage for spark,
you'll short out a coil,
you'll need these spark plugs for $700 and a coil,
and keep in mind there's a coil on each cylinder,
so not that all of them are gonna go bad at once,
but that will happen.
The other thing too we worry about is
if it's 150,000 miles, how many years?
We'd be very careful removing those spark plugs
from the cylinder head because they could be stuck,
we don't wanna strip them,
we don't wanna damage the threads,
so my best advice is have somebody do the maintenance,
get a look at it, you don't wanna make it,
you're gonna need these spark plugs,
absolutely, you don't want more work added onto it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think we have time for maybe one more,
excuse me, a listener wants to know,
Ken, do it yourself or check your own car battery.
You can, I mean there's,
you probably don't have a way to load test it,
but you could take a voltmeter
and at the car's, it shut off, it's sitting there,
and there should be over 12.6 volts,
close to 12.7 volts in the battery,
you can check the resistance,
which might give you a little bit of an impedance,
give you an idea of what the capacity is,
but you can do what we call a static test,
not a real load test, a load test,
you need a different tool or a carbon pile,
where you can actually put a load on it.
But the best thing you can do is look at the condition
of the battery, the posts, the terminals,
make sure they're clean,
if not you can get a little baking soda water
and kinda an old brush and clean them up,
rinse it off, look at the data on the battery,
if your battery's over four years, five years old,
I suspect you might wanna new one
before we hit winter months here,
because that tends to be the time that we see issues
once it gets cold, and hopefully we're a ways from that,
but as we know in Minnesota, it could be tomorrow,
so look at your battery, look at the date,
look at the post, you can check the voltage,
the car's starting, however, the voltage is gonna be fine,
so there's not much more you can do without the tooling.
All right, we have to scoot here,
let's do this again next week, Nick, if you will,
I think you're gonna be off next week,
our friend Dan will be filling it, huh?
Yep, we're gonna get the original car talk guy
coming back for a day to help me out here,
so hopefully he'll do fine, he's done it a lot more
than I have, but in the meantime, if you have a question,
you can always call us 651-228-1316,
if you're in St. Paul, we're on the corner of
Grand and Chatsworth, which is 982 Grand,
and then finally, check out our website,
which is LloydsAutomotive.net.
Thanks, Nick, and I'm gonna remind
to tell our listeners too that those we didn't get to,
those questions, there are a few of them,
I'm gonna save them and we'll open up the show
with Dan next week.
Have a good time off, Nick,
and we'll talk to you in a couple of weeks.
Thanks, Denny.
Thank you, Nick Stoffel from LloydsAutomotive.
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