Jeff Grabau, the self-proclaimed mayor of Davenport, shares his journey from a troubled youth to a successful entrepreneur and family man. He discusses his passion for motorcycles, cars, and the vibrant bar scene in Davenport, including his own establishment, Nubs Bar. The conversation touches on family dynamics, the importance of community, and the unique culture of motorcycle events in the Midwest. Jeff's candid storytelling and reflections on life, relationships, and personal growth make for an engaging and relatable episode.
After spending a day in Davenport, Iowa, I can confidently say Jeff is the Mayor. From a rough start in his early adulthood to building an empire, all while being someone who lifts up those around him! I met Jeff at the Beaver Bash in 2024 while riding around on some choppers. Jeff and his wife just opened up one of the coolest bars in Iowa, Nubs Bar & Microwave!
"...off-road lighting has become a huge deal in the motorcycle scene but as those trends rise so has enforcement of dot regulations..."
Off-road lighting means special lights that help you see better when riding motorcycles or driving vehicles in dark or rough places, like trails or mountains.
Off-road lighting refers to specialized lights designed for vehicles used in off-road conditions, such as motorcycles, trucks, and ATVs. These lights enhance visibility in rugged terrains and low-light environments.
"...as those trends rise so has enforcement of dot regulations you don't want to be stuck out on hundreds if not thousands of dollars in lighting that will get you pulled over..."
DOT regulations are rules made by the government to make sure vehicles, like motorcycles, are safe to use on the road. These rules include how lights should work and look.
DOT regulations refer to the standards set by the Department of Transportation in the United States, which govern the safety and compliance of vehicles and their components, including lighting for motorcycles.
"Custom Dynamics has been providing custom lighting solutions to the motorcycle world for over 20 years a small company and team based out of north carolina offering some of the best customer service in"
Custom Dynamics makes special lights for motorcycles to help them look cool and be safer on the road. They've been doing this for a long time and are known for good customer service.
Custom Dynamics is a company that specializes in custom lighting solutions for motorcycles. They have been in the industry for over 20 years, providing products that enhance visibility and aesthetics for motorcycle enthusiasts.
"...the word but to understand bobber style yeah they're still chopping you're still chopping frames..."
Bobber style is a way of customizing motorcycles to make them look simpler and more classic. It usually means taking off extra parts to give the bike a cleaner, more streamlined appearance.
Bobber style refers to a type of motorcycle customization that involves removing unnecessary parts to create a minimalist look, often characterized by a shortened rear fender and a stripped-down aesthetic. This style emerged in the post-World War II era and is popular among enthusiasts who appreciate vintage motorcycles.
"...the Hollister like a modified factory Harley like yeah the stock..."
Harley is a famous brand that makes motorcycles. They're known for their big, heavy bikes that many people love to ride.
Harley-Davidson is an iconic American motorcycle manufacturer known for its heavyweight cruiser motorcycles. Founded in 1903, the brand has a rich history and is synonymous with motorcycle culture in the United States.
"...it's the same thing with hot rods i mean it's all it's all motor culture so it's either like old flathead fords or you know they were using whatever they had to make it smaller lighter"
Hot rods are cars that have been changed to make them faster and more exciting. They often have powerful engines and cool designs, and they are a big part of car culture in America.
Hot rods are custom cars that are modified for increased speed and performance, often featuring powerful engines and unique styling. They originated in the United States in the 1930s and are closely associated with car culture and racing.
"...so it's either like old flathead fords or you know they were using whatever they had to make it smaller lighter"
The Ford Flathead is a type of engine made by Ford that was popular in the early days of cars. It's known for its unique design and was often used in hot rods to make them faster.
The Ford Flathead is an engine produced by Ford from 1932 to 1953, known for its distinctive flathead design and popularity in hot rods and custom cars. It was one of the first mass-produced V8 engines and played a significant role in American automotive history.
"...obviously the motorcycle culture is just embedded into this area but like for you..."
Motorcycle culture is about the way people who ride motorcycles live and interact with each other. It's not just about the bikes; it's also about the friendships and events that come with riding.
Motorcycle culture refers to the social and lifestyle aspects surrounding motorcycle ownership and riding. It includes the camaraderie among riders, events, and the overall lifestyle that comes with being part of the motorcycle community.
"...he built classic cars and I was always grounded so is you want to work in the garage..."
Classic cars are older cars that many people love because they have a special history or design. They are usually at least 20 years old and are often collected by car lovers.
Classic cars are typically defined as vehicles that are at least 20 years old and are often valued for their historical significance, design, and craftsmanship. They are popular among collectors and enthusiasts who appreciate their vintage appeal.
"...i got his 2004 Deville which is like a $1,500 car but it's one of my prized possessions..."
The 2004 Deville is a big, comfortable car made by Cadillac. It's known for being nice to ride in and has a powerful engine.
The 2004 Cadillac Deville is a full-size luxury sedan known for its spacious interior and smooth ride. It features a V8 engine and is part of Cadillac's long-standing reputation for luxury vehicles.
"...i just actually found out Hagerty has a stated value years no Hagerty has a program for like an extra $30 a year..."
Hagerty is a company that provides insurance for classic cars. They have special plans that help protect valuable cars from being totaled.
Hagerty is a well-known insurance company that specializes in classic and collector cars. They offer unique insurance policies that cater to the needs of car enthusiasts, including options for stated value coverage.
"...my dad has a 74 z28 that he had since pretty much a new..."
The 1974 Z28 is a special version of the Chevrolet Camaro, which is a sporty car. It has a strong engine and is popular among car enthusiasts.
The 1974 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is a performance variant of the Camaro, known for its sporty design and powerful V8 engine. It represents a significant era in American muscle car history.
"...all rwd suspension comes with a lifetime warranty..."
RWD is a brand that makes parts for motorcycles, helping to improve how they ride and handle on the road.
RWD is a company that specializes in aftermarket suspension systems for motorcycles, particularly for touring models. They offer various components designed to enhance ride quality and handling.
"...the rs2 rear suspension and the rs1 front cartridge system offers 12 clicks of compression..."
The rear suspension is the part of a motorcycle that helps it handle bumps in the road and keeps it stable while riding.
The rear suspension is a critical component of a motorcycle that affects ride quality and handling. It helps absorb bumps and provides stability during rides.
"...the rs1 front cartridge system offers 12 clicks of compression..."
The front cartridge system is a part of the motorcycle's front suspension that helps it handle better and can be adjusted for a smoother ride.
The front cartridge system is a type of suspension component that helps control the front end of a motorcycle, allowing for adjustments to compression and rebound settings for better handling.
"...offers 12 clicks of compression on the rear and eight clicks on the front..."
Compression adjustment lets you change how soft or firm the suspension feels when you hit bumps, which can make your ride smoother or sportier.
Compression adjustment refers to the ability to modify how much the suspension compresses under load, affecting ride comfort and handling characteristics.
"...i'm not buying an indian well i don't know some of the indians are kind of cool..."
Indian Motorcycle is another well-known brand that makes motorcycles. They have a long history and are known for their classic designs and strong bikes.
Indian Motorcycle is one of America's oldest motorcycle brands, known for its classic styling and powerful performance. They produce a range of motorcycles that appeal to both vintage enthusiasts and modern riders.
"...ersion of horn free texas but it's in like an old country town right or like an old western town it's a sick li..."
The Chrysler Town & Country is a family minivan that can carry a lot of people and their stuff. It has nice features to make trips comfortable, like extra space and entertainment options for kids.
The Chrysler Town & Country is a minivan that was produced from the 1990s until 2016, known for its family-friendly features and luxurious touches. It often includes advanced technology and comfort options, making it a popular choice for families looking for a practical yet comfortable vehicle.
"...is my motor working is the clutch okay is the fucking transmission slipping you know uh..."
The clutch helps you change gears in a car with a manual transmission. It connects and disconnects the engine from the wheels so you can shift smoothly.
The clutch is a mechanical device that engages and disengages the engine from the transmission, allowing the driver to change gears smoothly. It's essential for controlling power delivery to the wheels in manual transmission vehicles.
"...is my motor working is the clutch okay is the fucking transmission slipping you know uh..."
The transmission helps your car move by sending power from the engine to the wheels. It can be automatic, where the car shifts gears for you, or manual, where you do it yourself.
The transmission is a system that transmits power from the engine to the wheels, allowing the vehicle to move at different speeds. It can be manual or automatic, affecting how the driver interacts with the vehicle.
"...you can look at a car and say well that's a 56 Chevy oh that's a 62 impala you know that's a 74 fucking forward once..."
The Chevrolet Impala is a large car that was very popular in the 1960s. It was known for being stylish and comfortable, making it a favorite among many drivers.
The Chevrolet Impala is a full-size car that was first introduced in 1958. It became one of the best-selling cars in the United States, known for its stylish design and spacious interior, particularly popular during the 1960s.
"...what's the g-van they do that for 30 fucking years never change the thing on it..."
The Chevrolet G-Series is a type of van that was made for many years. It's known for being strong and useful, often used by businesses or families.
The Chevrolet G-Series refers to a line of vans produced by Chevrolet from 1964 to 1995. These vans were known for their durability and versatility, often used for both commercial and personal purposes.
"...i can get a 95 with all the bells and whistles but i'm like hey i'm slumming it over here yeah you got a g-van i got a g 10..."
The Chevrolet G10 is a smaller van that was part of the G-Series. It was popular for being easy to drive and still having a lot of room inside.
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"...0 20 and 30 yeah they're all identical until the express came out it makes it easier i can get a 95 with a..."
The Chevrolet Express is a big van that people use to carry stuff or take their families around. It's known for having a lot of space inside and being strong enough to handle heavy loads.
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"i've got a fender flare kit for that thing i got fender flares i got a all full fender flare"
A fender flare kit makes the sides of a car wider to fit bigger tires. It helps the car look more aggressive and can prevent the tires from sticking out too much.
A fender flare kit is an aftermarket modification that extends the fenders of a vehicle to accommodate wider tires or enhance the vehicle's appearance. This can improve the vehicle's stance and provide better clearance for larger wheels.
"they don't make lower control arms and so we first bought it and was riding around on it it would bottom out and and drag the cross member in the in the lower control arms"
Lower control arms are parts of a car's suspension that help keep the wheels in the right position. They make sure the car handles well when driving.
Lower control arms are suspension components that connect the vehicle's chassis to the wheels. They help manage the wheel's movement and alignment, playing a crucial role in handling and ride quality.
"you got to put air shocks on the front and then air them up to make a stiffer"
Air shocks are special parts that help control how a car rides. They can be adjusted with air to make the ride softer or stiffer, depending on what you need.
Air shocks are a type of suspension system that uses air pressure to adjust the ride height and stiffness of the vehicle. They can provide a smoother ride and allow for customization based on load and driving conditions.
"the newer cars kind of got cool yeah yeah for sure to this day like a camaro or an el camino"
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"the newer cars kind of got cool yeah yeah for sure to this day like a camaro or an el camino"
The Chevrolet El Camino is a car that looks like a truck. It was made to carry things but also has a sporty design.
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"...we went on a hot rod power tour in my 68 Cadillac to Memphis Tennessee oh that's it that was our first date..."
The 1968 Cadillac is a classic luxury car known for its smooth ride and powerful engine. It's a symbol of American automotive history and is often appreciated by car enthusiasts for its design and comfort.
The 1968 Cadillac is part of Cadillac's lineup known for its luxury and performance features during the late 1960s. It typically features a powerful V8 engine and a spacious, comfortable interior, making it a popular choice for those seeking a classic American car experience.
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What is up everyone and welcome back to the fast life podcast on today's episode I'm sitting
down with Jeff who is quite literally the mayor of Davenport and we're gonna get into
why in this episode Jeff's us all around badass dude I mean from cool cars badass choppers
bikes the dudes a collector of many different types of things he has a rad bar called nubs
bar and microwave in Davenport Iowa which I quite literally got to get as drunk as I think
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let the dogs out you said no distractions but fuck i was distracted all night that was that was
just a left field since you had no idea that was gonna happen yeah um yes how do you feel about that
you you're 16 year old daughter at dinner texts you and says hey i want to go on my first is it
date i guess it's the closest date that she's ever i've never known her to hang out with a boy
ever uh so much so that i thought something was wrong but
yeah that's uh that's weird i'm not weird i mean that's what happens happens at least to give the
boy credit he came in he gave me the dead fish though he gave me the very weak that's why i said
you can shake my hand better than that yeah uh but then it's like if he would have came in and went
a little bit too too too strong for it that would have been like you got it that first handshake
is got to be like an in the middle situation yeah you're not gonna don't crush my hand to show
a dog don't try to don't try to be bad like tougher than me dude he literally shook my hand
like rosa's mom on the titanic oh man yeah i didn't have to deal with that man honestly my daughter
wasn't living me at the time so i didn't get a chance i'm not saying i would have liked to have
this yeah no i'm not saying that i i'm glad i didn't have that i'm just saying like it was it was in
a part of that of her life that i didn't get to experience yeah i mean i i get it that it's all
it's all part of life and it happens very very fast i mean you know that yeah it's that
one minute there you're teaching them how to ride their bike and the next day they're riding
another car with yeah some boy down your driveway yeah and then i mean all those things that come
with it you know the the relationships the breakups the sadness the you know well i think that's more
what i'm nervous about is because now we're going into a whole nother emotional part of a child's life
yeah you got to be dad for before it's like my knees scraped or you know yeah my tire slap
now it's gonna be he broke my heart you know he's talking to another girl and things just
things just get really complicated at that and she's my oldest
so
i just know that if the oldest once the oldest starts the youngest or the younger ones are yeah
they're ready for it they're gonna do it faster because now they're watching somebody in front
of them she's breaking the mold she's breaking the mold yeah well you got it i mean dude you're
just hanging out with you this this afternoon like your wife yourself like you guys got a good
wholesome thing going on here it feels very like i'm jealous i wish i'd have grown up here
you know what i'm saying in this house or in davin port like uh like i'm like i'm envious
yeah no no in this house or in davin port no just like with this type of environment yeah yeah i mean
the house is sick too you know yeah well it wasn't always like this we we lived we lived very modestly
for a lot of years and like most and i don't mean to sound like conceited or anything one this house
fell into our lap not everybody's gonna find a lot of people have to build it or you know this one
just happened to be the right moment we were in the right moment the right time made everything all
the stars aligned and it happened the house we went through through the house we went from
was the size of this living room we lived in that for how long you've been here
this last may was four years so with that being said and with it being known that you
could have built your own house or built whatever you we were going to so the weird thing about
this house is my wife grew up right down the street and this house we thought was abandoned
yeah because it was we took 60 trees out of here you couldn't see any of this but you couldn't
see it from the road we put the gates and we did all that she used to make me drive up here and
drive around this house real and then uh we thought it was abandoned because it was i mean it didn't
look like this we put a lot of a lot of love into this place but uh we had bought 10 acres that we
were going to build on and we had it for about two years just we own the lot we're just but
well eventually we're going to build on eventually we're going to build on it well one Martin Luther
king day in 2022 we went out drinking the night before woke up hung over you know how you're
kind of like in a daze you're still drunk pulled my phone out and a realtor friend of mine posted
this house and said you'll never guess what's coming for sale tomorrow so i look at jen and he said
how's we drive around this for sale so i call my for realtor friend and i said what's the deal with
this house and she says well the lady that lives there i said somebody lives there she says like
dude i mean i'm telling you the grass was this tall yeah there was no none of the stuff that's
outside was there there was 60 trees that we took out of this place so you couldn't i mean it was a
forest up here everything was overgrown there's bushes out front completely overgrown nobody's
taking care of anything um so she said well the lady that lives there wants uh wants to move to
a smaller house because she just realized that she can't redo that place and uh but she doesn't
know where she's going she's kind of just testing the waters i said i will give her asking price and
90 days to move out if we can close the deal today without even walking through this house
and she says let me call you back 10 minutes later she's like come on up we'd
fuck sat in that dining room right there inside it so i got to buy my wife the child at home that
she's always wanted that's right and then we got to we got to uh do our thing on it i mean it was
very old lady e um this is all had white carpet in it this whole room was white did that plastic
on the furniture no she didn't have much furniture okay she had she was probably in her 60s when she
lived by herself she had big plans of restoring this place because it was a vacant for like 13 years
nobody lived here yeah um she had big plans to restore it and i think she when she got in here
she realized i don't have the money or the resources to do this yeah so she kind of let the let the uh
let the dream go but it's been fun it's been awesome i keep joking with the kids that we're
going to sell this place and they're like no we are not like we love it you know we were talking
about this on the way to dinner it's like you know the whole mayor of Davenport you kind of got the
house for it dude yeah i do it's probably like one of the highest properties around here it's the
we're the largest landowner in Davenport we're the largest private landowner in Davenport uh there
maybe some bigger estate i think i've seen one that's like 19 acres but this is 21 acres so it's
literally but it's overlooking the river i mean you can see the river if you can see downtown
yeah the bridge and all that um it's like a whole nother world up here then come to find out one
of my childhood friends i would say childhood some guy that was friends with my mid 20s uh
which is a child now i guess 20 years ago yeah this was his grandfather's house his grandfather
built this house so when we bought it and moved in he brought us a bunch of old family photos of
them having christmas in here and what the place looked like he got me a newspaper article from
1940s of when they did an article on this house like this big house up on the hill and it's it's
it's just been awesome that just uh it's funny it's like you're the you're not the old dirty biker
down at the corner you're the old dirty biker on the top of the hill but i was the old dirty
biker down on the corner yeah and i just after you know a series of good events and good decisions
i've got to turn it around just for my kids you i mean just just in the little that we've talked
over you know tonight and in part you really built you just you hustle you bust your ass yeah i mean
you and i have the same mindset with yeah you know once i start doing something i could do it for
two months and i'm gonna figure out how i can turn them into a business i'm trying to stay away
from like i keep every time i get on my phone i'm seeing smash burgers and street tacos and
philly cheesesteaks made i'm like i don't want to buy a grill because i'm gonna go nerding into it
and they saying i'm gonna have the fucking food car i'm gonna be pushing i'm gonna be on the corner
just hustling you know like i just that's just how i'm wired but that's just it though you either
have that or you don't yeah some people just don't have it um and not everybody needs to have it
because without guys like us there wouldn't be you know some people
i am very envious of the people that are able to shut their brains off when they get home like
yeah i'm always thinking something yeah does it ever feel like it's maybe uh i don't think this is
and i think you're gonna agree it's not a lack of satisfaction with what you have or what you've
done or what you've where you've gotten to it's just this this need to constantly be evolving
and growing i the term i you like to use i just like to move that needle every day yeah i don't
look for home runs where i'm fucking pegging it every fucking if i can just do this a little bit
more every day eventually you're over here and that's that's how i've always i wouldn't say always
done things because i was very impatient for a lot of years in my life now i can be like hey this is
where i want to be in eight years nine years so you know for those of you for the for our audience
hasn't heard of you or whatever like you know you you had a pretty crazy up upbringing into this
to say the least you know um
yeah i would you describe that i was a piece of shit for a long time
pretty much up until the moment that i had my daughter first daughter uh i actually brought
my daughter home from the hospital to my buddy's basement because i didn't have a place to live
and then it just was like you're looking at her and i was like fuck i can't be this degenerate
piece of shit biker anymore i gotta i gotta do something for these kids you know for this kid
and then we had two more come along um you said you owned a tattoo shop i did which i was not a
tattoo artist uh i had gotten in some trouble when i was younger and
there was a group of us that got in trouble and one of the guys that
uh i kind of got in some trouble with was working at a tattoo shop and the owner of that shop
ended up getting in trouble so i got out of prison started hanging out the shop the owner of the shop
ended up going to prison so i acquired the shop for pretty cheap even though i'm not a tattoo
artist but i was a business guy so i ran the tattoo i got out of prison at 21 bought the
shop right before i turned 22 and it was in the height of like miami in 2006 2007 everybody's
getting tattooed doesn't even measure good tattoos everybody's just seeing them on tv yeah
they're accepted now well they're accepted now back then they weren't but now they got on tv
everybody's coming and getting tattooed uh i mean i was making 150 grand a year at 22 fresh
out of prison and it was like i felt like i lost so much time being gone for those you know four
and a half years that i basically just hit the fucking ground running and owning a tattoo shop
not tattooing and just collecting the money was like a perfect storm of i'm gonna be even more
of a degenerate you know like i'm gonna fund my lifestyle now and uh did you have like a like a
you want to buy all the shit you feel like you couldn't have got you didn't get to have at the
time is i did that i did when i bought some things then but it was more i was more geared
towards women and drinking and partying yeah when i settled down and started my hvat company
and started making some real money i was a thought i was a dad then so it was like i'm not
out running around partying which we did every now and then but it wasn't a lot of partying
where that was what my whole mind consumed up but it was like well now i got 20 grand to go
buy this bike now i got another 10 grand over here to buy this car now i can go buy this i had a
whole warehouse full of everything i ever wanted and i always thought i never had anything when
i was younger so this is uh this is what i want it didn't wasn't until like the last probably
three or four years that i had to start selling all that stuff to remodel the house to do all this
and i would always think it was so hard for me to let things go i'm not gonna let go because
when am i gonna ever gonna get it again i worked so hard for this well now i don't give a fuck
about any of that shit anymore like my kids are happy my wife's happy i got a couple bikes
i'm good i got a pile of parts that i can play with in the garage yeah i'm fucking fine like i
don't need all that shit and it it's that's another page you needed that shit in order to
work your ass off to get it which got you that level but then after you then i started
realizing that it ain't all about the money yeah but it's easy for somebody to say that that's not
struggling i mean there's some probably somebody's gonna see this guy yeah he's sure he's struggling
but it's it was a lot of struggle jenn and i my wife and i struggled a lot for a lot of
time a long time we didn't do a lot of anything for the first few years
and now we can do whatever we want did you just have like to get into the
heating and air conditioning stuff that you have like a what was your end of that you know what i mean
so i had the tattoo shop and one of my buddies owned an h-back shop when the crash of oa happened
the first thing people stopped to is getting tattooed so i just needed to make money the shop
wasn't making money i wasn't living so he's like hey just for 500 bucks a week come over here and
i'll just have you do the exact same thing in all these apartments just put these registers in yeah
so i started that and then worked for him for a couple years and i ended up
signing out for motorcycle school in florida in Daytona oh so you went down there so i went to a
wild attack in Daytona was in school for about a year well while i was in school i started working
for another h-back company there because i could you know it's easy you knew how to do it yeah or
it wasn't easy but it was my in of some skill that i had to make some money um so then i came back
up here started doing remodels and getting kind of i came back with nothing i mean literally came
back from florida 2011 with an s10 my two motorcycles my ironhead sports sir and my
my 2010 sports sir i came back in 2011 and a small u-haul trailer behind my s10 and i lived
wherever i could fucking crash yeah and uh came back in 11 my daughter was born in 13 and it was
to the races from there and she was born 13 yeah and we just dealt with what we just dealt with
she's that's my oldest daughter is my wife's daughter who is she's my daughter but i'm they
i wasn't in their life until they were yeah three and four so so the youngest is the youngest is my
real daughter my biological daughter they're all my kids and what's crazy is my youngest daughter
looks like my wife who's not her mom and her two kids look like me and i'm not their dad it's
fucking weird dude it's like we're meant to be yeah um but yeah it was it's all about i always
tell people having dad having the kids leave to make you or solidify you're a great person
or let's solidify your pieces yet there's no in between you can't hide yeah you can't hide you
know like it's gonna expose everything about you and what your actual priorities are yeah yourself
yeah you can't you can't run from it you know i've had a lot of friends over the year that i
thought very highly of until i found out that they don't take care of their kids and then it's
yeah i don't fuck with them i don't i don't associate with them yeah i'm i i don't like to
sit here and say that i'm some great dad i i i always think about what i wish i could do more
of yeah but that's a good sign of being good dad wishing that you could have done more like hang
your hat on like the uh i wish i could have shit as like because i didn't right like i i've never
left my kids high and dry i've always that's a good dad you don't have to be the dad that's
giving your kids everything they fucking ask for or want um it's what was difficult is as every
every layer of their life you know what i would say a lot i know a lot of great dads and i and i
try to like like pay attention to them and i ask questions and i and like how do you deal with like
like because the easy dad thing is to be their friend and that's not being a good dad that's not
because you're not directing you're a present father we gotta be a good dad exactly it's hard
i wouldn't say it's i'll tell you what it is very hard to be a good dad i always thought i was
going to be the dad that when you turn 18 you're moving out now that my kids are getting to that
age it's like well you don't have to leave at 18 yeah you know like we'll we'll work this out you
don't have to leave right away and a little little gift house over here yeah a couple little condos
over there well actually that has been our i've i've talked to jen about this about us building
our own house over there breaking this off i'm giving them one of the kids said we can just live
up here all for all forever um well i mean with the way the way the world is there is like this
aspect of like look we have some land why not just have our family here but have our our space yeah
you know what i mean i am very very big on keeping my people together if i if you know my dad and i
but has a lot however yeah great advice earlier though by the way well i was you know just we
call him about the fuck yeah he's uh he's not your traditional dad but he just went straight
forward i was like hey we'll talk about this but if i could have my dad live in that house right
i mean we we got jen's dad living next door yeah if i could get my dad living right there and i
get jen's brother living in the house down there i would love to surround myself with my friends my
friends and family yeah because those are the at the end of the day there's the people that are
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scene per se in davinport but iowa itself has yeah i was i was where it's for arguing arguably
started yeah california might have ran with it but fugal and the all four steros and the stuff
these guys were doing it before there was easy ride before there was magazines yeah i mean
these guys had their own style you could look at you could put a fugal an l4 stereo bike in a
fucking lineup with a lot of other bikes and be like that bikes from fucking midwest we you got
to wonder how much of like david man who was in the city goes to california you know or just
the this moving around you know nests was out there you know he had his styles and shit like
that but like how much that all kind of like melted pot i mean nests was out there but and i'm not
an uh historian on choppers and motorcycles at all however was nests doing it before or after
fugal i mean that's the question like i i i don't know that answer you know when you're out there
and you're you're looking at you're at the museum and you're talking to the family and
they're showing you the archives he was in it but like the bay area just like i think the best
way to put it is the same way once i find out about all the blogs in america that were attached to
the vintage chopper culture the period correct world or i guess maybe you put it that way a lot
of people felt it and they created it and also they realized oh shit you're into this too yeah
and then it's like some styles probably had more of a dominance oh absolutely i mean there's some
even we're living in an age now of recycled shit yeah so we're we're looking at bikes
that have been done a thousand times over but you find something you like yeah even if it was in
the 60s or if it was in the i mean i'm real big on late 40s 50s style i hate the fucking word
but to understand bobber style yeah they're still chopping you're still chopping frames
you're still cutting stuff they're just not the long rig which yeah i mean i like those too
but i'm really big on just uh the Hollister like a modified factory Harley like yeah the stock
you know fat tires springers uh you know just kind of lightened up i love the old i love for one
they didn't have uh we didn't they didn't have the internet to watch what other people are doing
and have a whole these guys were literally just doing what works for them like what looked cool
they weren't looking at what somebody else was doing i mean probably some of them were but
it wasn't as heavily influenced as it is now you get builders now they'll sit for hours and look at
old pictures of what other people are doing and be like yeah i mean i like the way that resource is
kind of like a you know there's there is something to draw from and to learn from as opposed to these
dudes that you're referring to started they started it all yeah like look everybody there
somebody had to pick up a basketball once to see a fucking net and they're like i'm gonna
look it up there you know it just sucks it like that thing has gotten so big that nobody's praising
you know the guy originators right in our world is small enough to where we can still look back
and be like you know these dudes were doing it like this and they're still like uh you know
there's still like a version of this that exists that's paying homage to that yeah um
it's the same thing with hot rods i mean it's all it's all motor culture so it's either like
old flathead fords or you know they were using whatever they had to make it smaller lighter
and faster yeah you know and uh it wasn't until really like the 60s that the style came into it
you know where i think that's where fugal kind of took off and you know did fugal influence
california the california influence fleet fugal i don't know but who came out at the end is the
most known yeah fucking elf forest errors and fugal i mean you say fugal anywhere in the chopper
community everybody knows exactly what it is or who we are i mean you know like we were talking
about it at dinner it's just like i didn't know about it until i started like being in certain
circles and diving into certain types of bikes and then the name got brought up and then once i
started digging and learning some of the history not that i'm not that i can recite it or anything
like that but just learning it i was like man this when i think of a bike club that's the kind
of thing that i feel more drawn to be a part of a chopper club about choppers it's about
custom motorcycles essentially and not so much about like you know being a tough guy or you know
yeah and those are tough dudes because i don't know but i mean how's angels they built their thing
there were guys building choppers in the 60s but it's kind of morphed into yeah all these guys
are just riding baggers and just trying to be tough guys which they're a lot of guys are
fucking hard as fuck i don't think the clubs are as tough as they used to be there are some
motherfucking bad motherfuckers out there's credit scores and camera phones now
you know i don't think people realize how much credit source changed like hardcore dudes
because you can you can live your whole life not needing a credit score until you
i don't know if you can do that anymore you used to be able to yeah i'm gonna change my life and
i'm gonna go ahead and buy a house next year like no you need seven years to build your credit
yeah that's for sure that's a that's definitely a life decision to have my credit
and actually when i first got with my wife my credit was so bad they wouldn't even tell me what it
was everything i'd put it in because i mean i never paid him my fucking but i was a degenerate
fucking piece of shit um luckily i married a woman who had good friends when the computer
went up it's like right well you put hers in and say you know seven eighty you put mine in and say
please please eat cashier
for the longest time i had no idea what it even was like i wouldn't
they wouldn't even give me a boost mobile phone my credit was so bad oh and it took a long time
for me to dig myself out i didn't get a driver's license till i was 40 dude yeah i remember that
i spent my whole 20s like you know being really good at spog and cops and not having my shit together
and then i remember like the day that i like legitimately got insurance yeah and like my
my license and i was like fuck do you like you gotta swerve pull me over so you can check it yeah
i'm still hiding from cops i'm like i still do i want to my heart still kind of goes when i see
one that's like wait a minute i'm legal now or they get behind you like oh yeah yeah it's different
but so i mean obviously the the motorcycle culture is just embedded into this area but like for you
i mean you obviously are in a lot of different you have the bikes i mean you have a lot of
fucking nice bikes but then you also have the old school cars cars and cars is where it started my dad
i was always in trouble when i was growing up my dad was a mechanic he built
he was a it was a dealership mechanic but he come home and he built yeah classic cars and
i was always grounded so is you want to work in the garage yeah or do you want to
fucking be in your room so i was like i guess i want to be in the garage yeah so it's always
i've always had that mechanical thing and one thing i've noticed is like nowadays people aren't
teaching their kids that kind of thing dads aren't really there are some i'm not saying everybody
does that but people aren't teaching their kids to like change oil to change tires to do all this
stuff and i when i hire people at my hvac company it's one of the first questions is what does your
dad do always like use the computer check it's like i don't know if you're gonna get this dude
like you know like you either have it or you don't now did i have it because my dad was a mechanic
or did i have it because some people just have it some people can play the drums and some can't
i'll never be able to probably play the drums because that's just it's not in me i'll never be
able to draw because it's my brain is not wired enough to be able to i mean i can draw but it's
gonna look like a fucking Picasso um is it like that with mechanics i'm the older i get the more
i think that but uh that's a good point about the dad though like because there's inherently
going to be some kind of forced child labor going on you know yeah i grew up in that household well
we just had this conversation at dinner you got you grew up in a body shop wanted to be a mechanic
you try to be mechanic now you're doing bodywork yeah i grew up in a mechanic shop i wanted to go
to school to do bodywork now i'm fucking to work on cars and fucking do mechanics on our purposes
yeah so uh is that ingrained in us i mean is it like because my dad my dad's a blacksmith so
i'm a blacksmith my dad's a carpenter so i'm a carpenter i think if you were to roll the clocks
back or or the time back a lot further back when we didn't have access to all the different
information and opportunities we probably would have just chosen that and stayed the course right
but you know like you can grow up in a body shop and dream of being the guy building a
high-tech motor and be like this this looks sick i like the Legos i like the idea of
there's a pile of parts sitting on the ground and i'm going to make those pile of parts one thing
create something with land i love creating things yeah uh i'm not the best at it i mean there's a
lot there's a lot of guys that build a lot of fucking nice bike i don't even call myself a
bike builder i'm more an assembler yeah i like to i love going to swap meets and finding parts
and i'll look at it well fuck this is exactly what i need and then uh i'll assemble them i've got a
lot of really really talented friends that when i need something i'm like yeah i can do this for
me when you get to a certain point like you you you feel like i like your house is full of art
right and to me it goes in it's intertwined with like having a nice bike but wanting to
look at your bike and say oh my buddy uh you know the Scott painted this or this guy did this or
somebody made this this shift knob for me or that that a kicker pedals from so-and-so and like
you just feel like these are these people that that make up your friendship or your your i wouldn't
say identity but your friend yeah yeah i'm very very sentimental about objects yes i am um
you know uh my grandfather passed away i got his 2004 Deville which is like a $1,500 car but it's
one of my prized possessions i don't drive it because i know if somebody fucking hits me in it
the insurance company's just gonna take it yeah and it's like i just actually found out Hagerty
has a stated value years no Hagerty has a program for like an extra $30 a year if they total your
car out you get to keep it so i was like hell yeah i'll do that on this car yeah you know because
my dad has a 74 z28 that he had since pretty much a new my uncle bought it in 74 my dad bought it
from him in 75 it's been in the family forever my dad redid it when i was growing up when i was a
kid it was in a million pieces now it's really nice that's something that i can't wait to hand
to my grandkids you know yeah um i'm very very sentimental with objects of things um yeah but
even looking at all the photos of like you know like this hallway is full of you know people that
you and i both know like your friends and the people in the events you've been to it's hanging
up in your halls it's every day yeah it's family yeah um yeah i mean i love sitting here and looking
at things and memories memories are a big thing for me um i know i don't know if you ever had my
space oh yeah dude so i had a famous stars and stress court cursor ah yeah well i didn't do that
but come on did you get to learn to code uh i had a lot of photos on my space yeah and i don't
think i've used it since 2009 but every now and then when i would be looking at talking to people
i would pull up my space but hey look at this and i'd show them that's right that was my photo album
yeah well then one day i get up there and my space is wiped out all of our photos
so i like i'm freaking out i'll pay whatever for anybody to re get this all back i need all this
information back well we're in the digital age now where nobody has tangible photos of anything
yeah so my wife actually found this company that every month she sends all of her photos from that
month to this company and they sent us a paperback book with all those photos yeah so i've got all
these if the grid goes down you know everything goes down we have no more power we have no more
internet we have nothing forever it just gets wiped out all of our memories information
area is gone yeah so i'm big now of having in my hands things that my grandfather when
my grandfather passed away i got a bunch of his photo albums those are in my fucking fire safe
i don't even have my guns in that safe i have my grandpa's photos no safe because that is very
very sentimental to me um and it's the same with objects like we were talking about on these bikes
where my friends made me the shifter my buddy did this frame for me you know my buddy painted this
i got this seat at this event that me and my fucking homies had a blast at yeah you know and
it's it's life's fucking short man yeah and then i've always i've had this conversation with a lot
of people but i was like i'm the guy that like you know especially doing a podcast people here
talking about things and they're like oh i'm really into this and someone will find it and
send it to me and it's like i'm a gift to me i will never get rid of yeah you know what i mean
like the only way you would ever leave and that's a very rare thing is if i re-gifted it to somebody
else that i know that you knew had almost more of a sentimental value than you i've done that before
too where i've had something will pop up like a toy i had when i was a child or a toy i wish i would
have got yeah and i've i'll see it i gotta have this thing but then when i see somebody else come
in and see that same enthusiasm like here you go buddy there's a feeling right yeah yeah so i had
a buddy that uh i have a i have a i'm building my collection of books and like old mags and
shit like that and because i've been doing that when i get extras or duplicates of the mags i'll
give them the people i think are gonna appreciate it yeah but i had a dude that was doing a kind of a
redefining himself trip and he stopped at my house and spent some time there
and he and i said hey man you need to you need to look at this book right here now this book
you can't find it anywhere it's it's like you know an ebay or whatever it's like $2,000
and then someone i found one i found one that someone said hey man uh i know you like this
book i'm gonna send it to you so i immediately got it and sent it to him do they oh okay yeah so
they you sent it to that guy yeah so i wanted to make sure that i can get my hands on it yeah
because i have one and i got it signed by the artist or the the writer and all that and like
i'm good on that but that's the thing is like i find that like it's like when people come here
and they and they get to nerd out on all this stuff that you have and the memorabilia it's like
there's to me it's like um it gives people a chance to kind of find like who they want to
become because your house is set up the way that we always wanted to set up our houses
like you always think it's gonna be like i'm my house is set up like a 15 year old with a
why do we stick to tradition yeah why do we got to put some fucking cow with bangs on the wall
live life love yeah like why can't it be fucking uh devils angels get out of the way
you know mexico man beetle juice is my favorite movie my daughter my daughter's a big beetle
juice fan too there's beetle juice stuff all over this house and yeah like why can't it be that that's
that's who we are and i think traditionally like we find ourselves
like oh that's not appropriate to be in our home like why the fuck not this is who we are
yeah well what's not appropriate to be in my home it's my fucking home i am big on not following
the norms of things uh i can't stand it when people will comment on things my children are
doing which my kids are not bad kids yeah but it'll be like me cussing with my kids there but
that's inappropriate well fuck you like who the fuck who even said that a word was bad
like what makes it bad because you because you think why don't you say that the fucking
word boat is bad you tell me the word boat is bad i can't say boat around say boat in this house
yeah i fucking i just i don't like that everybody thinks that this is the mold you need to be in
however there also is a mold that you need to do you need to follow as a society to make things
work correctly yeah but what if i want to paint my whole fucking house black i'll fucking do it
yeah uh if i want to say fuck and if i let i used to let my kids say i do let my kids cuss
to a extent my middle one is the typical middle child so she would say fuck about everything
yeah i was like you now you're done now you can't you gotta learn you ran out of fucks you ran out
of fucks so you can't do that anymore but they're uh my son kind of like sprung it on me one day
the same way this sprung on you earlier and i lost track of everything he was talking to me about
because i was like this motherfucker just say fuck to me and i'm like ultimately i felt like a little
bitch because i did not know how to handle it i i well you don't prepare for this yeah you know
what i mean it just pops out now do you think i remember my grandparents were very very church
going and i never i was those were the ones that i was very respectful of and i tried my best not
to cuss but i remember they came to see me in prison one time and i was just having a stressful
day and i just let my fucking cock suckers over here and i was i just stopped and they acted
like they didn't hear it but i'll never forget it that they just feel bad right yeah so with my son
what i ended up doing was i was like once i you know like two days later finally figured out how to
like address this i might look you know you're 14 years old i know that this is probably how you
talk outside of this household for sure or when i nobody's around and i just want you to understand
that like the what what i need you to understand is that like if you do that with me it's probably
not bad like i i can deal with it they need to learn a ton of place but if you do that around me
and other adults then it makes me look like a really shitty parent and i don't want to be that
because i don't want people to judge you based on your mouth judge you and me yes on that so
when you meet people and you do not know them it's not a comfortable environment
people like especially the young age yes us being 40 if i say i mean i if i'm around an
elderly person i might not so you know liquidly say that i don't know why i i get a weird little
chub out of this sometimes i guess but like i like to use a cuss word in my vocabulary
as an adjective or a describing factor yes but not like a hey this fucking shit is so
fucking stupid i can't believe we're fucking here i'd be like hey uh what's that shit that y'all put
in the uh yeah you know talking to a waitress very very subtle yeah it's like you know i'm
not i'm using it in a way to lighten the mood yeah so that they don't feel like they have to be so
proper they know that i fuck around a little bit and we can go you know i will dabble if i hear
an elderly person cuss i know it's fucking on it's fucking good but i will kind of dabble a little
bit and kind of go out but again when you get the 30 year old talking about a 40 year old talking
well that's not appropriate cook get the fuck out of here you know it's a fucking word if you're
raising your kids to be afraid or offended by words you're failing as a parent yeah you'll never
convince my mind of that you need to teach your kids that yeah that might not be appropriate to say
all the time but if you're gonna raise your kids to be like oh my god he said fuck oh i just i just
honestly i'm not a fuck i've noticed kids are really good with analogies yeah if you can take
something that is inappropriate or right or wrong and give them an analogy to where it's a part of
their their real world environment where they understand why you should do this or not do that
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it's a fucking blast dude it's all choppers that's where that photo came from yeah there's the same
shot benny made benny did that for me daytona uh the shed is that the old shed run this was the
2020 so that's wheel right no that's dan dan i'm my buddy dan listen he lives in galesburg
okay i don't know him all of us are iowa boys seven nick nicks from fort madison iowa oh yes yeah
oh fuck it that's how we got invited down there is because nick lives in fort madison was with
nate but weren't y'all like the ones that came down that like overpopulated the the shed no that's
what that's what i heard no no so what happened oh well kind of so nick invited nate and us four
put on hello wheels oh so we'd always heard about the cosmic shed but we didn't know it was a fucking
invite only yeah so we fucking pull in and everybody i'm like you're here for the shed run
and uh scott's like who the fuck is this guy and then we ended up by the end of the trip we were all
best friends yeah that makes sense yeah this is uh fandango that was the very first party they ever
had at the canyon yep no i that was the one that was the bike i rode i built and rode this from
here to raton and back i'm sick i'm at jp run uh back in the day jp's good shit man he's a good
dude he he had a wild little run he's somewhat sober now so uh he's getting there oh i throw this
under there so it doesn't start flashing all right is that back on but uh
yeah so yeah so what was i mean since you just popped it up in my head like hell on wheels
uh what what is the iowa scene right now what is it i mean you guys we were talking about earlier
you got davenport cedar rapids the moin su city a couple guys in su city um some guys in southern
iowa like close like bethany well the missouri i guess bethany missouri uh it's very very
raw gritty it's not there are some nice bikes yeah it's mostly fucking crusty
for lack of better word meth fucking bikes where they're drug runners i mean i wouldn't say the
guys have the bikes are drug runners however it's just that style yeah you know um very gritty very
who gives a fuck about paint you know we'll fucking we'll put paint on with a trailer can
fucking call us fucking ride yeah uh it's all it's all back roads we uh my friend nate
his dad was a true 60s 70s chopper guy i mean this guy was the real deal and his dad passed away
i want to say in 2015 and to commemorate him um this him my friend weasel flying weasel
couple other guys all started hell on wheels down in fort madison iowa and that was really
my first introduction into real choppers which was in 2016 i had an iron head i had some dina and
some sport a couple sporsers and stuff like that but fxr before that but to see real fucking gritty
pans nox chop i mean that was my first encounter with kenny slaughter yeah
anybody that knows kenny i don't have to say anything else um
and i was hooked yeah i literally came back from there and traded my dina and some cash for a
chopper and i never looked back yeah and uh after about i think two years of that
starting to hang out with nate and then the guys from hell on wheels um i was like man
welcome what can i do to help and nate was just overwhelmed with doing it by himself so
panhead steve dan haas and i all were like fuck it what do you need and ever since then it's been
the four of us have put this show on and it's it's as close as you'll ever get to
you know there's no judges nobody really looks at the bikes do their party and we're all on the
same style bike yeah and you might go hey that's kind of cool but it's not like there's no egos
there's not it's not california it's not i mean it's it's a party that's all it is yeah it's it's
it's a much larger beaver bash okay with a hundred guys instead of 20 uh we take over we basically
take over a small town called franklin iowa and the town loves us it's maybe a town of 50 houses
and there's a town square that's a block by a block by a block there's one bar called the
franklin tap on it and they give us the whole fucking town the cops don't even come into that
town we take the whole fucking thing over line up main street we have bands vendors choppers
booze and then we leave there and do a run usually panhead steve takes the run but we just
lot load up and hit a small town 20 miles away don't even tell them we're coming a town of
three gender people will have a hundred bikes pull up and drink their bar out of booze in 30
minutes and fucking leave as fast as we fucking came and hit the next town over and we do it and
it's just you go to these bars these people maybe sell a hundred dollars in a night and we're selling
three grand and booze in fucking 30 minutes you know and it's like how on wheels how on wheels
fucking load it up let's fucking hit the next one you know it's like uh i mean i don't know if
like the railroad the east to west and this is maybe getting a little deep into like some history
was because you go through shy and all that from the one that was connected east and west
does that railroad go more through like iowa or southern because i feel like it's you know i'm
across the country um they they often called that hell on wheels because as they built the towns
it was the railroad was moving with the towns and and they would move 30 miles down the road and
started never leave with it and that was like and it was just like brothels and fucking bars and
so it was that that was the hell on wheels thing i've never heard that before but i will
definitely check that out um but that's that's probably a lot of the same thing that turned
into choppers and the the free wildness you know like i used to be that free willed guy i've kind
of been rooted with my kids but i still got it here yeah the events that you go they give you
what you need hundred percent that is why i get so nuts at events is because i'm so locked in at home
and trying to do that i get i go back to getting a taste of my just carefreeness of being like i
don't give a fuck where i fucking sleep tonight you know when i first met you last year at beaver
bash um and i've told the story to other people i'd never told you yet because you know it's about
you but it's like i think the first day the first time we hung out we all went to the bowling
remember that yeah yeah and i was like oh this dude's a he's alive for the party and i'm like
i dig that because i have like this entertainment aspect to me where i feel like i want to make
sure everybody's having a good time i do the same thing and i'm when i when i feel like someone's
better at it to me i love just sitting back and letting it take place i don't have a better
out of than you i just no no you definitely are i mean i just like obviously i'm i'm i was the new
guy into that that sector like oh so you just really started meeting the hangout with those guys
i i knew jason i knew oliver and i had been hanging out with haney uh i met scott uh chemical candy
back in 16 so i knew people sprinkled in but i that was the first hang as your first i'm no
bobby photographer bobby for a long time we've been friends for a long time just photography
shit but and i'll tell this story about you and this might be uncomfortable for you to
hear from me nothing like that diner we went to yeah we walked in there you said
you saw a little veteran hat over there said i'm buying that dude put that on me did i you did it
three times before we got to our table and i was like what the fuck man like and and i don't know
i didn't know you yeah i mean i'm just like okay and you did it and then you sat down and that was
it it never came back up it was more like hey just make sure those are on mine and yeah so i do that
a lot uh that was sick like so there's a reason behind that and i i i mean i do it a lot and i've
uh i've tried to instill this in my kids though but my best friend his dad and my dad were best
friends were six months apart so naturally we were forced to be best friends yeah um
um his last name is geigel my last name was graybaugh so when even when we were in the same
school alphabetical order our fucking lockers are right next to all through fucking year books year
books everything yeah and uh i was the wild one he was wild but he was i don't want to say was he
closet wild no i don't want to say he was in my shadow because that motherfucker was right with me
however my loudness and voice was probably attracted a lot more attention than he did
but don't let that fool you that motherfucker did everything i fucking did
however he was probably a little bit easier a little bit better of of uh
kind of concealing it but i went to prison and he went into the navy
like about the same time and we kind of lost track of each other and this is before social
media so i mean nowadays you can fucking type somebody's name and you see it yeah well
why was it a house party when i got out of prison this motherfucker walks through the door i was at
a house party people i didn't know before prison yeah it wasn't like i was at like a whole high
school i'm in a new group of people this motherfucker walks through the door we're like what the fuck
instantly back together again and uh when we were younger um he actually ended up getting
discharged he got in a car accident while he was in prison or while i was in prison
while he was in the military almost died was in the hospital for like nine months and and uh
they pieced him together like frankenstein he was so fucked up though they took his blood
gave him a dui then dropped the dui because they thought he died they fucking threw the case out
because like yeah he's deceased turned i mean yeah still very much alive so when we were in preschool
together we took photos with santa claus so when i got out of prison when i got
to prison he got out of the of the navy we were at the mall one day and santa was there and said
let's go get a picture of santa again so we just sit with santa well then it turned into a thing
every year like the next year we went and did a photo of us like i think we had we both had a picture
said i'm with stupid that pointed towards santa either side of them and then it turned into something
we did every year so you know you fast forward he started having kids and i started having kids
and you kind of drift away from yeah we were still best friends we'd still text each other and stuff
but we always made sure we got together on the holidays to do our annual santa photo and i'll
show them all to you and i get really fucking choked up but i can't we ended up becoming real
good friends with santa um broke good friends with santa yeah well he like every year we'd go back
to him well we did one in 2010 with me chugging a ball of crown which was before i actually chugged a
ball of crown but there's i'm in the photo doing this and he's got a nudie magazine and santa's
like looking over his shoulder like well was there other kids in line oh yeah oh yeah we did another
one where we dressed like uh we put on like uh onesies got pictures of santa we had another one
where i actually broke out of the hospital to go take the photo i was doing construction i had shot
a nail into my hand and they were admitting me overnight and uh i told the nurse i said you
can't admit me i said i have to go get this santa photo tonight my buddy's in town we had to go to
she's like i can't let you out of the hospital and i said i'm i gotta do it so how about we do this
i'm gonna come check on you in four hours i said okay so she walked out of the room i
fucking went to the fucking mall took this photo and in the photo i've got like a keytar
my buddy's got this little tiny baby drum drum kit and santa's like screaming into the microphone
i mean it turned into something we did every year in the photo my hand's all bandaged up like
you can see that i just got out of the hospital um well he had five children uh three months
before or in may of 2016 he had twins and he named his son after me at 2000 in august of that year
his wife called me and said where's can you do more grams that we're fighting i can't i don't
know where he's at so we searched for him all day and ended up finding him out in the woods he
killed himself but he was a big big guy into doing things for veterans he was big with the
warriors he was big so when he died i kind of my way of paying homage to him is every time i see
a veteran and i'm doing this with my kids where we'll go out to dinner and we'll see some way the
vet had on and i'll tell the nurse or they'll tell the waitress i'm buying that guy food will you
only tell him don't even tell him just tell him somebody got his uniform so now i got my kids calling
me that way they're older now but daddy daddy there's a guy here with all them hats on the
bias food so now they're doing it and it's it's just something that they're the greatest
fucking generation of people that we're willing to do these these fucking little pussy fucking
kids that are out here now uh they don't have the heart to just give up everything you got to go
do that and i i would have loved to go in the military but i got so much trouble so early on
that i even asked them instead of going to prison can i go in the military and they're like
aha not with charges like this you're going to prison yeah um yeah some of my pretty much
every one of my closest friends are vets and i don't know what i did to attract those men
but um i mean it's a brotherhood thing literally last yesterday the whole day i'm like okay that's
send him a message i send him a message you know and they're all like super buddies so they're not
like looking for but it's like hey man like i know we're friends and we're past all that but
we're not man like you did some cool shit you know i'm saying so well there's also more to that
so that was the the military side i just got married in may and his oldest son is 16 like
called him up i said hey man you want to stand in for your dad and be my best man in my wedding
and he was like oh absolutely i love that his mom called me like 30 minutes later so like he's
bawling his eyes out and he said it was how was it for you though like in that situation like
it's so crazy because he looks just like his dad his dad he had five kids he's got three boys and
two girls they all look look like just fucking like him yeah um and i now fortunately i'm very
close with the though with both of his ex-wives or both of his ex-wife and his widow yeah um and
i get to see the kids whenever i want we see him all the time we're at all the birthdays we do you
know we're always around um i make sure that you know uh i help however i can um it's it's weird
that even like the two children that he was only with for three months still have his mannerisms
like that's weird that there's a genetic thing that yeah now are the youngest ones picking it up from
their older brothers and sisters who knows but it's just weird that i can look at his kids and see him
you know i get to experience him through them and it's it's probably good for them too especially
that you you are engaged at this point to where like you want to be able to also be a liaison
between knowing their dad yeah to maybe fill in the blanks of their well and here's another thing
i'm worried about is his dad his mother my best friend's mom killed herself when she when he was
10 so i remember being at her funeral with him oh so his mother she killed herself too so like when
he died it was uh how can you do this you know i was pissed how can you how can you leave these
fuck how was it when you when you did this uh 30 um but it was like how could you do this well
then i started thinking you know i could never do that to my kids however it would he thought it was
normal like he he grew up with it's normal for apparently your kids like it's so one thing i'm
super worried about is i don't want those kids to get depressed and think it's fucking normal
and then that's their way out you know i mean they gotta you gotta find a way to normalize
these feelings of growing up and dealing with hardships yeah it's part of it nothing lasts
forever as long as you he had a he had a pretty fucked up childhood too his stepmother was a
fucking complete cunt but we're getting off the fucking subject of motorcycles here oh yeah
but yes i like to do a lot of things for vets because of it's my way of feeling close to him
because it was something that if i if we went out to eat he would have done that yeah so it's like
i'm well i i saw that and it it was inspiring to me and it was one of those things where it's like
you know like anytime you meet someone that's kind of like that like you like you got to admit
like you're you walk into a room and you are the guy there you either hate me or you love me
exactly here and it's easy for someone who is looking to hate somebody to just hate you well
there's a regard there's a lot of people that will hate you just because everybody else loves you
yeah you know what i mean and i'm not saying i don't give people reasons to not like me
however most people that don't know me that dislike me in the beginning almost always end up loving
me because that you because it's a perception yeah it's a perception thing yeah and i'm good at
pick i don't want anybody to hate me uh and i know that i'm very drunk here you see sometimes uh
and if i can pick up that i've upset somebody i'll do what i can but hey you know i'm sorry man
you know like we're good we're just having fun you know i don't ever want people to feel uncomfortable
or anything like that but sometimes when the booze is flowing people get upset but i have noticed
even if it isn't with me you'll watch guys like online talk about motors like that oh
fuck that guy will you know and i'm guilty of it sometimes too we had this conversation or um
you just have to you just gotta you just gotta think everybody's on their own fucking journey so
you can't yeah it's hard to uh have an opinion like look social media is social social media
gives us the ability to have a first opinion about somebody even though it's not a first opinion
about us it ain't even fucking real man if you and i are fucking getting wild at the bar tonight
and we're doing some stupid shit on which we're going to 100 percent if we do that and then they
go oh that dude's fucking like who the fuck does that guy think he is because the dude listening
to her watching it is in a different fathom being in that position and doing that they're in a mental
state of like oh the motorcycle is serious to me yeah like yeah it's it's serious to me too but
like it doesn't it's my escape though yeah you don't have to be you don't have to be the police
dude that's the you know what i mean like this shit's fun and it's supposed to be fun and when
when you like if you can't go to a bar and be around other motorcyclists or bikers that you
know and love and you you haven't seen each other in a couple months you're like yo i'm here now
let's fucking go let's fucking go bowling baby the funny thing about that was when you got the whole
fucking bowling alley to like get quiet like we were gonna do a surprise for all over it
he's like i fucking hate when you do that
he played it off well you know dude he is such a good sport he's such a good guy i cannot say
enough about him or his wife or his well not their wife his wife his girl his woman
they're both just i remember my kid's mom loved income masters and i would watch it with her and
be like who the fuck is this guy fucking flannel fucking just top buttoned on and okay
fucking toothpick in his mouth so when we went to the shed run the first time i didn't even know
he's gonna be there uh i'm talking to chemical candy randy and he's like you know you know all
of our packs gonna be here and i'm like who gives a fuck by the end of that trip i was
making plans to go back down to oliver's house like the next month to hang out because it's just
he's not who he plays on tv and he's just one of the sweetest guy he's all about motorcycles
he is all about motorcycles and tattooing and just living that life of he is i gotta i gotta
give him credit because uh poll fission is one of my favorite movies right but it's a little before
my time to have watched in the theater yeah and last winter he invited my wife and i out to go
watch a screening of it at a theater and i'm like man i never thought how amazing would feel to
watch a movie on the big screen that i missed yeah and that was like so the first time i ever saw
a pulp fiction on the big screen was there first of all i forgot how long that fucking movie was
but it's like this is fucking rad and that's the kind of it's like a you're creating experiences
for people that they might have missed and he's good at that i mean he loves to relive his childhood
you know what i mean he have you ever been to his house yes his fucking house is
i would say it makes this place look like a fucking church lady's house you know what i mean
like yeah he has every single toy he's ever had or wanted yeah um and you can tell that he's got
every color of it he's got it yeah he's got every color of it he's got every swin bicycle they
fucking made yeah uh his hallway is a mini golf course the entire hallway yeah um it's just
he's the kind of person i look up to in the sense that you just don't give a fuck because there are
some times that i'll walk into rooms and i'll be kind of self-conscious like well i mean these people
will not like me and this that oliver just don't he'll blast right through the motherfucker and say
fuck him you know yeah but he's the nicest guy who would not like him i use that as like a litmus
test now where you don't like oliver then you you're not because like what is your real reason
for not liking this guy 100 the only reason anybody cannot like him is that they're envious of them
you know yeah people get on the internet they get a little uh they get a little uh self-conscious
about other people that are company with themselves yeah and i talk about this a lot on this podcast
i think i lose a lot of audiences because i talk about like people and their insecurities and how
they can hide their insecurities behind a motorcycle or that's true a lot of other things i'm a body
builder i'm a this like you can hide these insecurities around a persona behind who you are
not i'm a biker i'm a bodybuilder i'm a tattoo artist i'm a whatever right i'm a pipefitter i'm a
i'm a jarhead i'm a this i'm a whatever the fuck i'm a lowrider st rider oh yeah that's
you're the you're starting a club about that yeah but so in being that it's like you got to get to
the point where like yeah there's nothing wrong with loving these motorcycles and it can't be you
it can't be you yeah it's a part of you it's what you like it might be but it cannot be your whole
persona yeah uh and i it's it's a lot like these guys that i say where they're costumes you know
you get these doctors and lawyers yeah who they can't ride their bike unless they are just head
to toe in leather and their wife has her bedazzled headband and they make it a costume their bike
is an accessory at that point and it's not just something they don't give two fucks about the
motorcycle they give a they are worried about what it makes them look like to other people yeah um
you know these guys it'll fucking you be riding i fucking do this hey guys you know that's my
fucking motorcycle wave i don't give a fuck about it the ones that like i try to be not so uh like
like i said that's judgmental that's probably the most version of like someone that's probably
very insecure about themselves because they're buying everything that thinks that they're gonna
get in a club yeah you know and i'm not saying a motorcycle club but the club of said subject
or the guys that buy sports cars and things are going to be one percenters i mean yeah
am i telling me i'm wrong i mean that's literally like the anoxymoron right like you can't
i cannot take a diamond patch pulling up on a sporty seriously you're gonna talk to me
you're gonna talk to me like that low pins are over there nerd on that i mean i'm not talking
shit about sports that we i mean yeah i actually i love old iron sports cars it's just it's you
know what i mean these guys will buy a stereo type there this yeah yeah yeah stereo type there
sports cars you know talk to me like that i got a fucking vespas sitting right there bud okay
who am i to fucking tell anybody what's cool well i mean at the end of the day it's like
all you're doing is poking fun at people's wall they put up
and if yeah and if you can't laugh at yourself then it's it's the wall is not the wall is not
real it's a facade it's a you know it's a it's a thing that you're putting up to kind of protect
an ego yeah and look i mean look i i'm saying that as a 43 year old dude that's had my i've had
my insecurity phase where i did certain things and there's probably a little bit of insecurity
still in me for sure because would you would you write a fucking goal way around
i mean i i would i'm really not like uh would you make that your only would you
get rid of everything else and ride a goal around i mean there would be some kind of
stipulation that's what i'm talking about so what i'm talking about at the same time i'm also guilty
of yeah because i also would not be out riding a bike one i love harleys i love vintage harleys
yeah however if i've got to have a fucking you know chevy cobalt it's going to be a brand new harley
it's i'm not buying an indian well i don't know some of the indians are kind of cool
well the indian thing is we've been talking about that i uh i'm i'm known on this podcast to like
go out and publicly like be like i don't fuck with indians yeah that's how much it aren't they
Polaris now no they were Polaris they're not Polaris now what is it who's it's just straight
indian but whom who they got bought up by uh a they were sold to a like canam well canam's
Polaris so canam's Polaris is a bit can't Polaris i don't know Polaris is the is the top is the
tip of the umbrella or if it's in the umbrella but Polaris also owns uh you know the canams they
also own like bombardier or some kind of jet bombardier but bombardier is like cdu bombardier
is the motors which is cdu there's also Polaris but it's like general motors yeah you know and so
i remember i met a dude that sold those jets and you know big old bag guy he sold those jets and he
was telling me how like uh he sold the jet to oprah and one to um and one to elon musk he's like so
here's what we have to do for elon musk we had to sell in the jet but because there's three million
dollars in profit on the sell we also packaged two hundred and fifty thousand dollars of cdu's uh
the the fucking side-by-sides can oh yeah the yeah side-by-side and all these things for their
facilities so he's getting a jet but he's also getting enough uh uh wherever those fucking uh
side-by-sides are for like starbase like utbs yeah like transports like gators and shit yeah so they
give them like five hundred thousand dollars worth of extra shit they still make twenty two
point five million dollars on the sell right they're thinking we got this we got five million
dollars for free even though they're really not they're just paying more and getting just like
what are you going to give us to this right yeah okay side-by-sides for starlink not starlink for
for elon musk yeah but i mean starlink is elon musk yeah but he was i don't even know if he had it
by then but it was just more like a uh yeah that's what i'm talking about if it's for his companies
yeah yeah so it just it shows it goes to show that like how like in certain worlds like uh
you know say if you own a huge farm and you're gonna probably purchase x amount of john deere
tractors to run your farms you're probably gonna get some kind of incentives that they have well
to justify the millions dollars they're about first buying that if you spend a hundred thousand
dollars on a credit card they're gonna send you a fucking check yeah they're gonna send you a rebate
check because they're they're gonna first of all nothing's free let me tell you that if you know
these people i fell into that it's like the marble points remember the marble don't i get that but
i'm saying i fell into that trap too it's like we're gonna buy everything on credit cards so that
we get the points yeah well i spent so much and fucking interest on that shit that's like we
fucked these points i should have just kept them should have just paid with cash and not spent
yeah so now i don't do not i don't really like to use credit cards but it's the same thing is
it's it's all no matter what they're gonna come out on top the sale the the the debt tour is going
to come out on top the debt t is going to pay for it yeah for sure so after you came down and did
that so the shed that that shed run back in the day was kind of like your introduction that's how
i met all the texas guys okay that's how the iowa guys kind of introduced the texas they had
they had giddy up before that which was the most amazing thing i've ever been i never went to giddy
up um there was another one they had that they're not doing anymore giddy up they don't do anymore
there's another show they weren't they're not they haven't done since probably 18
there was a lone star river run no it wasn't lone star and then they had uh well everything else
that they did that's still going on because maybe it was just giddy up giddy up was the only one
they stopped and giddy up ended in 19 19 they'd already kind of had a falling out between the
partners that are involved 19 was the last year 2020 it was kind of already split and then neither
parties did another event because of like shutdowns so the throwdown oliver's deal was in dallas and
then it got moved to yellow rose once they bought glad bought it and then nitty gritty is still going
on nitty gritty in fucking time how the galveston no nitty gritty was in like just houston proper
but now it's in galveston now it's in between houston and where yellow rose is it's like a
miniature version of horn free texas but it's in like an old country town right or like an old
western town it's a sick little it's a little deal erica's been asking me to go for a couple years
like now it there's always that's the thing with choppers yeah you can't well the thing with choppers
is from fucking february to november i don't have a shit where you're at there's an event
going on every weekend you want to be at a mall like you were talking about the party of the pin
out here yeah shoshing wait that's when you don't want to miss that that show is luke is doing has
is is onto something really really nice there and i think that i think party at the pen ohio
is going to be the east coast born free that's not a bad idea it's going to turn my prediction
and my prediction don't mean anything but i'm just saying if i had to bet money on it
one the guy that puts it on is the salt of the fucking earth yeah uh i mean he's as good as they
come a lot of these good show a lot of these awesome shows fall apart because the guys are
putting them on don't get along they're fighting they all want to go different ways some guys are
piece of shit uh just like bands it's a band the good thing about part of the pen is it's all
under one one guy's in charge and it's one guy's vision and you know i do what i can to help
on it i've helped every single one they've had but at the end of the day it's luke's party and
he does a great job at it and he puts up with a lot more fucking shit than i would there's times
where i'm like yelling at luke like fucking stop letting these motherfuckers do this dude yeah stop
let them walk all over you and what you mean i wouldn't say walk all over you but he's just too
nice yeah so he he's measured he's he's he's he's reading the room he's one thing that i don't think
a lot of people know about luke is he's actually a really small guy he's only about five two
he just looks really big in photos he's mastered the look of getting at the right camera when i met
him i was sitting next to him yeah so you didn't notice bigger you thought he's better he's only
about five he's not five five two three there's no fucking way he's like six five i'm like really
like going back in the fucking in my in my head i'm like hey did he have short legs no he's
fucking gigantic but what's funny is he's delicate well we know he's he's he's out uh the very first
the very first low low there was a picture of him and i walking side by side and he's i'm telling you
he's this much taller than me yeah so for his birthday you ever feel bad like if your wife sees
that photo like i said a picture of me and a close buddy of mine yesterday to my wife
that she does her friends and he like the angle he's like towering me i was like
she doesn't even see that yeah well what happened is though is for his birthday that
year next year yeah i had my buddy photo shot me just a little bit taller than him but it looks
really good so i said happy birthday little guy you know so ever since then him and i have been
sending things back and forth now his son is i think his son jackson who's uh another great i mean
his whole family is the shit yeah uh his son is much taller than me and i think he might even be
taller than luke we've taken a photo where i will stand there and do this and he'll stand next to me
and look up and then we'll photoshop him to where we're looking at each other and where i'm just
like towering over him well that's always been kind of the the prank and then luke will fucking
have something photoshopped me like my birthday where i'm just tiny or my head's gigantic or
something uh last year i took a picture with his wife and made her towering over me like
you were talking about with your best friend the the santa pictures and these things and it
goes back to what you're talking about having the photos here yeah it's like all this shit
you know if you if we were talking about like all these the like the thing about like tom fugal
that i think was so unique and fun is that he photographed his entire everything out all there's
so much history captured and still pristine not pristine but like like it's immortalized
yeah yeah but it's also goes back to what i was saying about tangible shit yeah if you would have
that fucking thing on sd cards and shit how many cards you think have been gone how many things
that would disappear i'll let you on sd cards fuck up dude like you you gotta back up the back
up the back up but like you said if you they have those print on demand things where you can
send a ton of photos in they'll get you a little photo book and and you're good to go and they'll
send you a book of the yeah yeah and the file yeah um dude the party at the pen like i haven't
been yet and obviously the lola run is kind of an invite thing one of my favorite photos
that i actually want to get this printed and i need to stop being a little bitch i need to
reach out to the photographer and buy it it's of haney justin and there's a picture of him
fucking flexing standing on his bike kind of yeah i think he's standing but he's on the bike but
he's flexing and it's just this oh on lolo on lolo yeah we were riding um greg flak took that
photo and it's i love it i love it it's from behind and i he's got his helmet on and i think he's
got his leg up yeah and he's doing this and it's it's so early it's hey to a t right but it's also
like a really great photo action shot yeah yeah it's a really nice i want to fucking get that printed
or get a print from him of that just because a it's a friend of mine but also it's like i love that
photo yeah and i mean i wasn't there to experience it but like i am purveyor of stories and i when
people come to my shop or my house wherever i decide to put that photo if i get it i'll have that story
like that's fucking haney this is the low low run i've heard nothing but great thing you know what
i will tell you about the low low run is if you get invited and you don't go
you're making a mistake 100 you do whatever you can to fucking do it yeah um i went the first year
and i went full gary buc drunk and i didn't get invited back to second
however i smoothed my way back in and i did um i did i've done three of them now and
there is nothing more my wife loves the beach i'm happiest on my bike in the mountains yeah um you
know uh it's it's so mind clearing the beach there's no such thing as a vacant beach there's empty
mountains there's a lot of empty mountains and i the older i get the more i dislike lots of people
yeah i want to be very selective on who i've got that's why i put the gates in nobody's fucking
coming up here unless i let them up yeah um i just there's just something about that low low run that
you know you're doing 12 to 1600 miles in six days on 70 year old motorcycles yeah and
you're in the middle of nowhere uh it's two lane roads through river for through fucking
mountain river bottoms and it's the most beautiful it makes you realize how fucking small you are
um the first time i ever rode that road about four years ago i rode it from mazula going down
to boise and it rained the entire time and we were like this is the sickest thing i've ever been on
as long as you got good rain here it's fucking awesome it's just like the rain did not detour
it was an experience like i can't tell everybody about like traveling on a bike that this place
is sick in the sun it's sick in the winter it's sick in the fucking spring every time you ride this
road the conditions of the weather change the lighting change the road it gives you more things
yes you you're in a car and people a lot of people that don't ride motorcycles will never
understand this but when you're in a car uh who did i see it burt kershner i think asked this guy
tell me what's like right like burt whatever his name is said somebody was explaining to him papa
and he says you don't when you're in a car you don't realize the temperature changes every fucking
20 feet yeah uh that the smells change uh you know you're it being in a car is the equivalent of
like my kids living on their phone you're not paying attention the outside world around you as
soon as you get on a motorcycle especially an old motorcycle because your your senses are already
heightened your sense already heightened because you're there's my do my bearings sound right uh
you know is my motor working is the clutch okay is the fucking transmission slipping you know uh
then you're in the most beautiful scenery on the fucking planet i mean it's i wouldn't say all your
senses are are dialed they're all all those senses are colors are brighter it's like being uh it's
like being a little bit on some mushrooms or something a hundred percent a hundred percent um
it's a lot of things that some of those guys take for granted and i was talking to somebody this
weekend even and they were talking about how pumped they were to be coming to i would ride
through the cornfields and that's what we live on you know but guys that live in the mountains
are pumped about coming down and what ride the cornfields guys are in the cornfields are pumped
about riding up the fucking mountains you know people are on the beach are excited about being
up in the fucking high plains and it's it's all about the best way to experience something
is on a motorcycle yeah we just did with luke um morris him um brek and i and kody from long
gross all rode in the uk for two weeks we didn't even get in a car for two fucking weeks and
we all brought the best rain gear and we spent two weeks riding all over uk on the motorcycle
and we didn't know where we're going every night we'd fucking sleep somewhere wake up and ask somebody
hey where's a cool place to go fucking we headed that way and we lived on motorcycles and the bad
part about that is you had to wear a helmet which you probably always should wear a helmet but
if you can experience something with either just like a three-quarter yeah where you have the wind
on your face and you can get the smells you can get all the temperature changes and shit
that's the best way to do it full faces i get for safety yeah you need to do that but it's uh
it's fucking it's it's uh as spiritual as i will ever get because i'm not a religious person at all
but that's as spiritual as all over yeah dude uk i mean it's a small place but it's full of so much
history and there i mean the landscape when and i'm always speaking from like yeah the the the google
maps we spent a lot of time in wales and there's no highways in wales it's the whole country is two
lane roads that not one of them is fucking straight at all like if you watch um world war two movies
where they're in europe yeah and they you know they just take these small roads into small towns
the wales is still like that yeah we literally stopped at a cemetery where a guy got was buried in
like 1480 next uh you know 30 feet over somebody got buried in 2010 and it's like a lot of these
people spend their whole lives in this small little fucking town yeah um that's wild and don't get to
get out and experience the world and stuff you know of course like what of all the events and
stuff that you've kind of like been able to attend like what are the ones that really speak to you
the most that you've experienced you know is it a show or is it a ride a bathroom just you leaving
this house and you're doing something if a show gives you the ability or if the ride is it like
whatever it is i don't want to i don't want to hit him against i would say
i love shows and texas beaver bash i just told you was probably is one of my favorite things to
go to because it's so small and it's all the homies all yeah you know you're from houston
you're in dallas you're in oklahoma you're on iowa yeah and then we all just go there and again it's
fun uh i'm a little biased for hell on wheels just because yeah it's it's hard to explain hell on
wheels to somebody that hasn't been there but it's you just don't do that every other well we were
doing it every year next year is the 10th year it's not the 10th show it's the 10th year because
yeah after 2020 2020 we had one 2021 we decided we're gonna take the year off and go to everybody
else's show then we had another show in 2022 23 we hit everybody else's show 24 we just had 25 or
off 26 we'll do it again next year what time next year will it be it's august 13th i think i know so
now we gotta go to most people come back from sturgis and hit it like mike that's probably the
best kickstart mike came um uh who did he come with uh roadside marty kickstart mike and roadside
marty came through uh it was great to see those kickstart mikes fucking the man um it's just
it's so hard to explain it because it's it's as close as you'll ever get to what all of these
quote-unquote hipstery new guys that are trying to emulate something it's as close as you'll ever
get to what it was really like yeah because it's literally we take over a whole campground
we take over fucking towns and you're just rolling in yeah it's um but there's no fights
there's never fights there's never egos there's never fucking people kind of attitude it's not a
tough guy show yeah and it's also not a cool guy show you know we're all on bikes we're all
fucking it's it's just we all it's just a good time it's just a fucking great time
yeah the other thing i wanted to kind of talk to you about because and i've alluded i've
you know explained to you earlier how much like it's a fantasy to own a bar it's probably not
something that's reality or practical for me and my habits but it is a fantasy if you want to own
and i sat there and i just the environment this and then as i've done more dives into the people
around here and heard stories of the biker shit that takes place there that kung fu tap yeah
everybody you know crashing in the patio and you know uh someone's telling me a story about
tom fugal slept on somebody's camera one day and he's fucking like this is the shit that like
like that's when you have when you build the temple that they come to it yeah and
jeff has done a great job with kung fu yes i mean it is like you said when you take rides
why are we hitting this town we got to go to this fucking bar when you go through demoin
early when you go through central iowa you have to hit when you get close yeah we got to go to
kung fu gotta get a barrier uh yeah and that's what a lot of kind of jeff and i have talked about
doing a run from nubs to there yeah um or vice versa but a lot of kung fu had a big uh influence
i mean you could tell by being at both bars they got the same kind of feel but had a lot of influence
on this bar and uh i've always wanted a small bar at capacity all the time i got a buddy right now
that just built this gigantic bar that's beautiful in bettendorf but you put a hundred people in
there it feels dead yeah you put 15 people in mind it's like fuck this is where the party's at tonight
too yeah uh and i've always i've love nashville and i love memphis i love the small bars where
there's just a little small stage in the corner there's always a fucking killer blues band or a
killer country band on uh you know there's one bartender and people are just having a good time
and that's exactly what my wife and i did with this place and we didn't do it to make money
and i all my only stipulation with her was as long as it breaks even i'm fucking happy yeah it
starts costing us money it's time to fucking move on uh and we've been lucky enough that it's
we're still relatively new but it's done pretty well so for the people listening though like
there's i started hearing stories when i met you last year about the private part yeah the private
bar yeah where you had people wanting like showing up because they heard about it and no idea who they
were yeah kind of like what i did and i you showed me where it was i'm like they're just knocking on
the on the back door yeah well so we out the we were going out the back door of that shop
their staircase okay yeah so there's a lot there's a big parking on the back um cool so what was
what was it like having the private bar you know and and like why did you have that in the first
place like why did you create the private bar uh my wife and i collect we've got enough of this
stuff to do probably two of these houses yeah two bars you know and i just love this i love old
memories i love old i love history yeah especially when it like cross paths crosses paths with
motorcycles or vintage outboos or you know the golden area of motors motorcycles and cars which
is like the 50s and the 60s you know where it was cars were sexy yeah i think we're getting away
from a lot of that yeah there might be some cool cars now but cars were elegant cars were sexy
cars were who you were back in the 50s and the 60s you know they every year you can look at a car
and say well that's a 56 Chevy oh that's a 62 impala you know that's a 74 fucking forward once
you get to 70 things kind of cross but i mean the 50s and the 60s they change the mold every year
yeah there's a there's a new impala from 58 all the way to 70 i believe every year yeah different
year yeah that's when they start and then they after 70 they started barely changing yeah they do
nowadays they'll do 10 fucking years or what's the what's the what's the g-van they do that for 30
fucking years never change the thing on it that's what i yeah so i g the g 10 20 and 30 yeah they're
all identical until the express came out it makes it easier i can get a 95 with all the bells and
whistles but i'm like hey i'm slumming it over here yeah you got a g-van i got a g 10 i was gonna
drive on the strip 95 i've got a fender flare kit for that thing i got fender flares i got a
all full fender flare i have bigger wheels on it that's that's right that's so there i had the
small kragers on it and they don't make lower control arms and so we first bought it and was
riding around on it it would bottom out and and drag the cross member in the in the lower control
arms you got to put air shocks on the front and then air them up to make a stiffer yeah and so we
were like you know what man and what if we just throw some we had you know 16 kragers popped out
i'm from the 90s dude i like big wheels so we put 20s on it 20 wide one so it has more of a
muscular stance not a like a rapper dubs kind of stance you know i mean even until when do they
start having 22s i mean that had to been like the mid 2000s i was in high school in the 90s bud
the 20s the 20s were as big as it got when we were kids the 20th wheel like really changed like
that was where like oh cars are kind of cool yeah but it spoke to me you know well that's when
the newer cars kind of got cool yeah yeah for sure to this day like a camaro or an el camino
or something on kragers is is is top tier my my my uh uh mount rushmore impala is a 65 because i
love the the circle taillights with like some some like a kragers style or supreme's 20 inch
like tough guy wheels tucked in it like a muscle car yeah but lowered slant i like lowered shit
and but that's my car like i'm not a 64 guy i i they they're beautiful i'm not a 58 guy or 59
i love 59 yeah 59 is iconic i mean what the fucking the with the cat eye taillights on a 59
there's nothing cooler it's crazy to go from a 58 being so bubbly and kind of like a an old
school Chevy you know uh i mean they completely redesigned the fit and then it went from like
bubbly and kind of like like stout to long and like low to long and swooping yeah side fun or
side flares deep ones i painted one for yeah but they weren't or side fins they weren't fins
like a Cadillac yeah that were vertical 59 had horizontal fins yeah uh 60 had horizontal fins
yep uh but the 59 is my absolute favorite i love a 58 but a 59 gm did everything right in 59 the
Cadillac was perfect the Buick is perfect the Oldsmobile is perfect the Chevrolet is perfect
everything gm did in 59 they could they've never been able to top dude they they they
couldn't miss yeah yeah i'm trying to find a picture of my band right quick to show you
i have to pee again good say wait yeah i do like those 20 uh torque thrusts yeah yeah
i'm not trying to say they're like super expensive it's just a look and i dig it you know what i'm
i thought you had creased fucking like door panels no no like tuck and roll but that's no no
see the ridges it's the fucking it's the it's the wall it was the door panels
so my wife and i have gone back and forth because we kind of want a sprinter van but if we buy a
sprinter van it's going to sit in the driveway until we need it but we'll go cruise the van
on the on sunday we'll hey you want to take the van down there's not again there's something very
soulful about driving an older vehicle dude it you slow down you don't even you're one with
why do i want to go fucking below the speed limit right now but you're one with the car it is you
know what i mean that's how i feel riding the chopper now that i've got 40 miles under my belt
yeah so i absolutely love uh my wife's alcamino is fun as fuck to drive there's a whole oh yeah
i love i do love those wheels a lot it's still slammed three and a half drop you know but again
like we were talking about chevy didn't change the fucking box of that thing from the 70s yes
they didn't change it till the express came out 96 actually i think the express in this
overlapped each other so 96 they changed it that's when the astro van came out
and then the they have astro vans in 80s well
but the astro van was oh yeah you're right yes i know you're talking about now
when did chevy discontinue the g van 95 or 96 was or 95 was the last year 1996 96 okay okay when did
chevy start the express van or the astro no no no the express when did chevy introduce the express
1996 so this i could have sworn the express was earlier than that but they discontinued the g
and started the express which the express van now has not changed it has not yeah you could buy a
2025 express it looks just like a 1996 express yeah for 30 years you know what i mean and like the
fucking parts are almost interchangeable yeah and 96 is when the vortex came out so the tbi was
up to 95 and then 96 is when i to my knowledge is when you started seeing vortex motors which
then turned into the ls motor stuff you know i'm saying if it wasn't already a ls bottom
i'm not very versed in that world so i could be full of shit no one is weird uh i'm not very
versed in the new car stuff either so you know with this whole um the venture going into the uh
the bar and everything it's like we we did the drive we we left your house we counted the bars
for two and a half miles we hit what 22 23 bars 23 bars here to the other end of the time in 2.3
miles and it's just something that i've talked about so much maybe to a nauseam to the listeners
about like what it's like for the people that are south or in california or whatever these midwest
towns the bars are part of communities 100 percent you know 100 percent this isn't for
people listening it's not like we we get down off this hill it's a neighborhood it's a neighborhood
for you know at least two miles at least two miles yeah and there's 20 bars 15 bars 15 bars
yeah between here and downtown in all neighborhoods all neighborhoods and this isn't that's one
street that's not jumping a street over a street down that's how many are on just one street one
straight roads there's that many bars through neighborhoods um somebody had posted something
on mine one time that they would put england against america in a drinking contest and somebody
comment it back and said i wouldn't put england against wisconsin because the midwest drinks
so much yeah you know uh when we were over there we're trying to rage and they're shutting the
bars down at fucking 10 o'clock yeah and it's like what the fuck we drank till three eight
we didn't go through your head at home this fall off she off the clip oh it's just my dirt
um i go to florida and you know even florida is a big drink in place but like i i grew up here
and then my mom moved to florida so i would jump back and forth and i would go back and see my
high school friends and i'm just getting warmed up and these motherfuckers like all right put it to
motherfuckers yeah we're fucking party up there dude yeah there's like a i mean a lot of the places
i frequent this not north it tends to have that kind of vibe it's like the bar closes i mean even
after covid like things they they creeped it back a lot of places closes at 12 now there's only a few
places south it like started to remain at that 2 a.m mark covid definitely put a a damper in uh
a lot of the way businesses did things also i don't know if covid really did it or if it was just
when we noticed it people aren't people don't have to go out anymore to meet people yeah you can sit here
in your underwear and fucking scroll through and meet and talk to women or or if you're a woman
to men or whatever you're into yeah back in the day you had to go out to meet people you had to go
to this bar and see who's there then you had to go to that bar and see who's there you had to go
to that restaurant you had to go to that bowling alley you had to go out and be active yeah nowadays
people just sit in their fucking couches and they don't have a need for stuff like that or what if
like you go to that bar down there and there's like a chick that walks in it's like oh this girl's
beautiful and then you go back every day wait and see if she's gonna come back see if she comes back
so you can fucking that's what you used to have to do yeah because we're old and that's how we used
to have to do it yep um my wife when first time i ever saw her she walked into a bar and i was
fucking smoked and i walked up to her and i said you are fucking checking every box of everything
i love in a woman and we're sitting there talking and i hear did you just shit your pants and i
turn around and some dude's like talking to me and i'm like no and you can see through the entire bar
behind us everybody's like oh my god so obviously it wasn't me because we couldn't smell it there
like she couldn't smell and then you all of a sudden need to smell it wasn't where i walked
for anything so i just literally just turned around looked at her i was like all right nice to
meet you and i just turned around walked away so then i fucking stopped her online like i remember
i've got her name i got her i've got her cousin's name and then looked at her cousin's page and i
found her yeah took about six months to get her to go on a date with me and uh we we went on a
we're on a hot rod power tour in my 68 Cadillac to Memphis Tennessee oh that's it that was our first
date and we've been together ever since we literally the i think up until recently when i spent a
couple weeks away when we were in europe the longest we'd ever spent apart is a couple days
like we're always together um we fight like brother and sister but it's always just bicker
and it's nothing ever fun that's another thing like i mean my wife we're talking about this
today it's like the earlier days like we've had like fights where i have to go drive i got to
fucking calm down now we get into like we we bitch about funny things that we can like laugh about
like you know like she says oh man you know i mean nice of you you know did the did the dishes
once in a while and i'm like you know and then i have some kind of nice to be made some money
once in a while we just go back and forth right um but there's no like i think we were talking about
this earlier it's like it literally is like i i found this weird place where when i started this
podcast me and my wife were we were married you know that was my chick that's my girl but i wouldn't
say that we're friends yeah like that wasn't my home girl that wasn't the chick that i want to kick
it with like and then once she became that it's like wow oh this you know i feel so bad for all
the things i said on a podcast about how like oh you're never gonna find a real like your friends
are the best thing ever like you know and they they are and they're still validity and all that
but it's like once now that where i'm at now i'm like yo like there is a there's a threshold
in a relationship with a woman when you cross it and you'd cross it on the right terms on all
fronts yeah there is some kind of like very euphoric there's something about being with a woman
that you 100 trust yes uh you know like my woman has access to every fucking thing i've got she
knows where all my money's stashed she knows what bank she's on all my banks i'm not worried about
a fucking thing yeah uh you know the only time i'm ever like worried about anything is like
she's gonna take my car and fucking accidentally hit something like that's the worst i gotta worry
about so i don't have to worry about her being at the bar and dudes fucking hitting on her and her
fucking you know um one she's just never been like that like she's never even really like that
floating with even me yeah uh that she would do that with other people you know and she married me
so what the fuck is she gonna do this without it you know what i mean um but like my previous
relationships there was a lot of things where i'd had to hide who i was what i was doing i haven't
ever had to do any of that with her she knows exactly you don't have to live a double life yeah
i don't have to live even if it wasn't like a like a i was fucking around double life but
you know when you it's like that you see those memes every once like i've never seen him smile
this much when he holds a fish like this is him you know what i mean it's like there there's gotta be
a version of that right well i mean other than vacations where she wants to go
we're into the same thing she loves going to these bike shows she loves fucking for the most
part riding on bikes now we're getting older our bodies are hurting so she doesn't want to do
500 miles on a fucking 42 knucklehead hardtail yeah with no seat padding on the seat but
she goes these events and it's to the point now where if i show up these events without her the
first thing everybody says is where's jen at you know they're not saying how you're doing it was
where's jen yeah you know and the same thing happens to her if she goes to something i'm not at
first thing people say is where's jeff yeah you know like everybody knows that we're a unit and
we're together and it's uh it's kind of a good feeling and i hope my kids end up with something
that someday but that that it's like having a good dog they're having a good daughter dog dog oh
fuck you know like you have a you don't like they just it's not that way at the beginning
but it takes a lot of ass beatings to get that woman i mean dog where they need to be
it just it's something you earn by by attention and affection yeah and consistency inconsistency
yeah and then your next day you got it you know yes that that's and that is in and that is a
comparing a woman in a relationship to a good dog yeah in a good way in a good way not a bad way
um i'll tell you what though i like dogs more than most humans yeah so when people get offended
by stuff like that it's like that's like one of the best compliments i can give you yeah you know
what i mean like uh that is pretty sick what's in my dog yeah he that dog in there uh he was
he was my best friend when i had nothing he went everywhere with me he couch hopped with me he went
up he moved to florida with me he moved back from florida with me he would ride on the gas tank
on my motorcycle at fucking 70 miles an hour and just sit there uh i had a jet ski and i would back
the jet ski in the water he would jump out of the i tied to the dock he would jump out of my truck
run to the end of the dock sit on that jet ski while i parked my truck and then i'd put his
little life jacket on him and he'd sit between my legs on this jet ski fucking 70 miles an hour
through the water and he he would you know he wouldn't sit he'd keep his legs but he was he was
over the over the fucking waves he would fucking spring himself to where he was holding and he
loved it he i would i never had him on a leash he'd go he'd go to the bar with me and sit under
the bar stool everybody knew him he went through a lot of hard things he never left he slept in
my room every night until the night my daughter came home and then he slept next to her for her
entire for the rest of his life oh he would sleep next to her bed for the rest of his life a lot of
videos i've got of her being young like i bought her a little electric four-wheeler and we lived in
town them i got this video where she was like a block down the road and that dog was just sniffing
everything around her she's she'll get ahead and he'll notice she's ahead and he'll follow her
he'll stay he would stay right with her i would get up in the morning and we lived in a neighborhood
and get up in the morning i'd open the front door he'd run outside take a shit take a piss i'd
go upstairs shower come back in he'd be standing on the front door ready to come back in never left
the yard the only time he ever left the yard is when people would come by and think he was a stray
and pick him up take him in the fucking main society so they'd call me and say hey your dog's
back up here i have to go here and get the dog um but that right there was probably tied with losing
my best friend gram my grandfather or my mother those are the four hardest hits i've ever taken
was that fucking dog and i knew i didn't want to get him cremated i knew i wanted to see him
see him again everybody thought it was weird to have him freeze dried but Oliver had his dog
freeze right that's how i saw it yeah so i was down at his tattoo shop you know five years ago or so
and i collect weird taxidermy too some of my officer and i was like what's up with the dog
like i'll get a fucking stuffed dog he's like no that's i can't remember his dog's name was
i said what are you talking about he says so i had her freeze right so was that does that look
like her because most taxidermy doesn't look like the animal they just get it he's like no it looks
just like her so i started looking into it and i found a guy and he told me like when he dies
is what you gotta do and uh you know with the day i put him down gen do not to be around the house
the kids were all gone i took just me and him over there like i had to do it myself took him over
i put him down fucking lost it brought him home i had to put him in a fucking freezer i'd freeze him
solid and that was tough it's like yeah what if he's still alive and i'm just gonna freeze him
death right now me was gone but um put him in a bag frozen took him to the freeze dryer guy
and he had him for like eight months well he called me right before psych cycle showcase in st
louis okay so i drove down for cycle showcase picked him up and i stayed at this shitty hotel
like it was a seedy fucking hotel and you know i'm sure some of these people brought some really
weird things in the hotel i'm walking in with a stuffed dog and i'm thinking oh my god what are
they fucking thinking you know but i got him in the hotel room and i just laid on the bed with him
you know just fucking looked at online just it's it's not weird i get to see him for the rest of
my life and when i die i want um that dog's gonna be buried with me that's cool like that dog that
dog saved my life more times than one just just by being a present fucking dog that yeah was always
with me they say like therapy is about it's not about somebody having answers for you it's about
somebody listening president yeah you know and so a dog can be a lot for somebody simply by being
their president like that dog was happy every fucking time i came home uh he would go to work
with me he'd sit in the front seat of my truck like that dog would i'm telling you i'd go to the
grocery store he would walk right with me the dog fucking never left my side uh will breed
he's an anguish bulldog okay um and then you get maybe nine ten years out of them fucking that
dog was almost 14 years old when he died and the vet with the reason i had to put him down is not
because his body shut down because his brain so he's already getting dementia so he would like
just sit there and piss on himself and then i just give him a bath and i have to buy him a new bed
and the next night the next morning i wake up he piss over himself but the vet would be like
man this dog's really healthy what do you see this i feed him table scraps oh you can't do that
i said the fucking your toe is one of the healthiest fucking dogs you've ever seen
and i'm just it's how granddad did it it's how bad did it i said that dog is gonna eat steak for
the rest of his fucking life um all that shit you put in that dog food yeah and they always say
like it's human grade i'm like well this is human yeah this is human grade so why would i do less
grade yeah um so these are dogs now they know if we're eating it they're eating it yeah my wife
was not a big fan of that dog simply because he's stunk you know he was a fucking shitter um
and i already had him when we got together she's raised these three since we they were puppies
so she's even though i don't want to bring food home she's bringing food home from from the
from the house so she gets it now she gets with with her well i'll be like just leave this crap
to look like no these dogs were getting some steak tonight you know that's awesome uh she is
she was not a dog person until we got these i've always wanted a dog i've just i travel so much
and my wife told me straight up because she had a dog that she had to take her with a previous
previous relationship and she gave me the ultimate the same way i gave her ultimate with a cat
i hate cats she wanted a cat and i said i'm not fucking doing anything i'm not cleaning shit
i'm not fucking you know any of that and so when i wanted a dog she said okay i'm not doing i'm not
walking it i'm not taking it in the back yard i'm not doing anything it's your responsibility my
responsibility and man i just why don't you get a dog well you're on your motorcycles
i'm gonna say why don't you get a dog that you can take these trips with it's uh
man like i've always thought about it i've always wanted a dog i've never grown up with a dog
really i've always had i've never had a dog my dad's a big dog guy too but i've i've also like
i've always been around people that have the dog i want and it's unfortunate because
it's kind of like it's kind of like a lot of things that you have or like here and your lifestyle
and choppers in general like it's not something you just buy it's something you acquire it's
something you gotta have the right thing you can't just grab well i don't know i mean oliver's
got two amazing dogs that just happened to come to him he's got two stray dogs that end up being
the greatest dogs ever you know um but i think a lot of that has to do with the owners too i mean
you've never had a dog so you'll probably absolutely hate it for a while but it'll end up being
something where you're like i can't live without this thing there's probably gonna be a time in my
life i mean i i still travel too much i'm still i'm i'm too i'm just too active you know i'm not
home enough consistently to be able to be that kind of thing well it's like having another newborn
yeah i mean it like if i had a dog in my 20s i would i would have been better suited yeah because
i was home more you know my my routine was drop my kid off at school go to work pick her up at
after school and then we would go to a lowrider shop and i would airbrush hood murals
at a lowrider shop till like 10 o'clock at night my daughter is just like hanging out with me
listening to deaf tones and pink floyd and shit like that you know they probably shaped her a lot
too that's heavily that scene probably shaped her who she is as a person it is like she's which
goes back to the hot rods and motorcycles and all the other that lifestyle of of uh uh there's a
fucking but i mean at the time too like i was i was still i've never been a homebody but now that
you know there's a picture of you and you got michael lichter in that photo with you guys in there
when i when i met him and got to hang out at his house and do a podcast in Colorado yeah yeah
when i did that it was the first person's house i was ever in that felt like this i felt like i was in
his house in his life in his mind yeah the things that inspire him the things that he loves were
on the wall it wasn't some facade to show the world look we're also into you know pottery
farm or you know whatever the fuck it was like no it's like this is it's art from the people
he's met over the years photographs books that people have seen him or he's acquired uh it there's
just so much of him in that house and it that that encounter changed a lot of me my house has
been a slow transition to being your house should be a representation of you not a representation
of what you want people to think of you exactly um you know you talk that fucking toboggan over
there behind that is was my dad's and we call it the widowmaker it has one of our friends
hit a sled and fractured his whole fucking arm i had to go through actually my dad's best friend
my my best friend's dad yeah had to go through like six months of fucking therapy it's i can't
tell you how many fucking people it's knocked out uh that thing will kill you yeah and i put it up
as a fucking memory like i've had a bunch of my buddies you get so fast when you get four people
on that fucking thing the tears will just come shooting down your fucking side of your face
and it's like it's like national lampoons where he fucking greases the bottom of that sled
and shoots out until this is flame um but that's what it is though everything in here is a memory
of something all right it might be bar time soon yeah no we can start wrapping it up i felt like
we've uh that was a good one i was thought we were only gonna have like 30 minutes for this
fucking ship that's been we've had cocaine talks without cocaine exactly i think you know like the
the first night at the beaver bass last year we like i think we bonded over like old r&b oh yeah
remember that yeah we were talking about some old r&b shit from like the 90s and stuff and
boys the men boys the men and fucking jagged it oh yeah he's sweat he's sweat
yeah it's i mean you and i are the same we're a fucking year apart yeah so i mean we both grew up
on the same mtv you know what i mean on the same fucking car magazines yep um
it's not like i'm trying to talk to a 25 year old guy that's trying to oh that's us dude
well that they you know the stuff that was new for us like fucking dr dray's the chronic
is classic for him to listen to you know so he's experiencing a different way that'd be like me
talking to my dad about uh linard skinnerd uh because the way i perceive it as a classic music
he had it in real time yeah um or the cultures even same thing with motorcycles you know everything
resorts back to that kind of same uh subcultures of things yeah you know yeah we're definitely
going through different phases like that but you know podcasts youtube videos i think uh
tiktok is making grunge era 90s popular again amongst new younger people like they're now
discovering it yeah they're discovering limp biscuit and deaf tones and fucking you know corn and
you know shit like please don't say it please don't say it it's happening i hate hate hate
turkove i think it's more new metal shit oh oh you mean like two thousands i think it's more
new metal and lincoln park yeah i think grunge so like got bands like deaf tones is like on that
cusp of like they could be considered grunge but they can also but they're out there the front
runners of like limp biscuit and yeah and if you think about raging against the machine
they're technically in the grunge era they were grunge era but they were more of a new metal sound
exactly yeah so i think you know so you get into that kind of a mix of things where
like my 15 year old son it like knows what a deaf tones is you know or what deaf tones are and
is getting into all that shit my daughter just grew up around this shit yeah i always tell people
like me and my daughter daughter grew up together you know it's true though yeah well i had her when
i was uh 19 years old and you know like yeah make sure you don't make sure make make sure you
grew up real fucking fast though yeah i mean that's what i said i told you i didn't drink till i was
30 which is very commendable for you i mean having a kid a leader fucking make you a piece
of shit or solidify you're a good dude the fact that you had a kid at 19 and decided not to party
until she was 10 you know i just wanted to you know and i i was growing and becoming an airbrush
guy and a custom painter and i just had your priorities in a different place i just wanted
to be good i wanted to be i didn't want to be broke you know i didn't want to be broke that's
what i need to fucking put on my license plates i just didn't want to be broke yeah and and you
know there's little wins i tell people all the time i i've explained to my son i was like success
is different for everybody man hundred percent you know you know you could you could associate
success with the house on the hill or whatever car you want and these material things but to me
it's just it's freedom freedom you know i told you that well about the money thing it doesn't
matter about how much money you got i'm a fucking chaser of the freedom of what money will allow me
to have um now i won't have to chase as much when my kids get older because i won't have to make as
much money to make them happy yeah um and i you know success is uh uh what's the word i'm looking
for uh i can't think of the word right now um success is in the eye of the beholder essentially
yes yeah uh you know some people and i remember my stepdad when i first started making some money
i was talking to my stepdad about we're fucking killing and he told me he's like it's not about
money i'm like the fuck it ain't well now that i'm older it's like i get what he's saying i should
have slowed down i should have spent some more time with my fucking kids um but at the same time
if i wouldn't have slowed down we wouldn't be right now so i mean it's a catch 22 on both sides
yeah um yeah you've got to play it by ear pretty much i mean like now your kids are at an age where
you can really be much more uh you can be around but you can also like provide them now we can be
more friends yeah you can't do it when they're younger you can't be their fucking friends yeah
you can be nice to them but you still have to be you can't make your kids when they're younger
think that you're equals because you're fucking not yeah when they get older now we're equals
or somewhat yeah once you start paying your own bills you're an equal to me until then
you got to let me lead and it's the same thing with businesses you know when you're a fucking boss
you can't have your employees all in there thinking that we're all fucking equal because
we're not yeah you know what i mean i'm the one that put all the skin in this game yeah um
you know you're not trying to hold it over anybody's head but it's like look you got to do what i
said because my way is the way they did this you know and like your attitude and your your
entitlement right now could make or break this company by allowing you to have that can kind of
control like look i hired you to do that do that if you can't do that yeah what are we doing here
all right jeff good time in closing i had a great time man i did too i think i think we're
going to head down so the steak was fucking fire it wasn't not the best it was great i used that when
i'm trying to fucking schmooze fucking big wigs on companies dude i'm so glad i'm probably the
brokeest dude you've actually schmoozed oh no no you're not you're you're you got a lot you got
a you're rich in many ways the bar i mean the restaurant the friendship you have with uh i forget
Jeremy and what was the bar's name again or the restaurant duck city duck city be sure to
dive in for it first off amazing steak perfect it really was perfect what i love about it is
i've been eating there for 25 years it tastes the same today as it did 25 years ago and for
my audience they know i like a one sauce i didn't even ask for no no no need for it didn't need it
i didn't think to have anyone in that restaurant i mean it's a five star restaurant in down for
yeah um the sauce the uh the potatoes that what was the solo cheese yeah that was fire it's all
together is perfect yeah um and now we're gonna go slaying some shots and sing some karaoke at
nub's bar and microwave in davenport all right man let's go all right let's roll baby all right
good one hope you guys enjoyed that i want to thank jeff for all the hospitality while i was in
davenport uh quite literally one of the most memorable times i've had uh this year if not
in the last 10 years so thank you again jeff appreciate it if you guys enjoy these podcasts
please don't hesitate to check out all the links in the description below wherever you're listening
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offer codes to save yourself some money on the stuff you need for your bike so yeah that's
gonna wrap this up and i appreciate you guys listening we're gonna catch you on the next
episode next week which is with hofman designs so we'll see you then peace
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