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The Driver's Show with Paul Merrick and Gordy Waters.
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What are you driving?
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I've got a 2014 BMW X1, which I own, which I bought off my brother and caught a little bit on fire.
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A little bit, but it's fine.
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No, it was just like when I got out of the car, I was like, fuck, it's really smoky in the Southern Highlands today.
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It's so weird, it must be burning up.
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And then I got out of the car and then I was like, the air underneath the car was like wavy.
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And I'm like, that's a bit of fire.
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I'm like, yeah, there is something really hot in this car.
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And so that's been in the shop and I don't care to think about.
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So it's still there?
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Yeah, that's going to be a very expensive fix.
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BMWs, I fucking love them.
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This is a Christian podcast.
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I would prefer it if you didn't in the name of my Jesus.
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Okay, that's noted.
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So I freaking love BMWs, but when they go off a cliff, they're just right off, man.
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Good service though.
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Yeah, not that good.
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In my experience, they were a great service.
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I had a Mini though.
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I had a Mini Cooper S.
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And then we were, yeah.
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And they, yeah, they were always really nice.
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Hey, by the way, the weird thing is it might seem that Paul is absent.
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It's been quite a while between recordings.
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Basically Paul is no longer.
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Yeah, well, you have.
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So basically what you're hearing now is Pauline Pavley has transitioned, which is nice.
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Thank you so much for being such a supportive workplace for this.
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It was a big decision, but I'm definitely a better person for it.
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Did they, did they lob it off properly?
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Like is that something you can bring in on the trolley?
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I think that you're not allowed to ask that question.
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Because the rules say can't, but yes, it's gone.
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Is that like, it's gone.
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We can't call midgets, midgets.
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Like we call it like dwarfs midgets or whatever.
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I can't be cancelled on this podcast.
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It's too early for me to be cancelled on this podcast as Paulina.
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Paul is dead, but Paulina has a clean slate.
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Wait till Donna finds out.
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So yes, Steph Coombs is here, journalist, speaking of transitioning,
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I guess we could say you're making the transition into,
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there's a lot of car journalism going on in your life.
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You know, because like truly at the core of myself as a person
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and as a media professional, I'm actually a grifter.
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A through and through grifter.
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And so I'm grifting out of podcasting and other stuff
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and I'm grifting towards car media,
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which is my preferred area at the moment.
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I don't know what grifting means.
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It sounds like a subject on you porn.
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No, it's like, if you're grifting, you know,
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you're sort of, you're like a traveling salesman.
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You know, like a riverboat dandy.
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I've always thought of you as a riverboat dandy.
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That's how I see myself as well.
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Steph Coombs with her latest hoohawaki idea.
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So yeah, so at the moment I just, I just like cars.
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And it turns out that you can get paid to do this.
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Still trying to work that bit out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, some of us can.
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And you can tell, by the way,
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you can actually tell that Steph's the pro at this
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because she's the one with the laptop
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and I'm just scribbling shit on paper.
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Well, you know, I'm Googling what is car?
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I look like a, I look like a 1980s journalist
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who's just like finishing the story
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on the bottom of his car.
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I just, I'm basically Trevor Long.
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I'll just yell my review out on the top of the town hall steps.
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Do you know who Trevor Long is?
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Not many people do.
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No, back in my talk back radio days.
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Another thing that I used to do,
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he was our tech reporter I think
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when I was working at 2GB.
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I've been everywhere.
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And I love the whole time.
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Trevor's still just been a tech reporter.
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Have you ever noticed that Trevor Long
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just looks like a court drawing of a homeless person?
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I haven't noticed that.
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Well, take another look.
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am I starting a fight with Trevor now?
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I feel like this is a long standing fight
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you have with Trevor.
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I've got no problems with Trevor.
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You just called him a court reporter
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sketch of a homeless person.
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That feels like you've got a fight.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's not a fight unless it's accurate and facts.
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Hey, I wanted to talk to you about the kid.
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Because the launch has happened.
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We can talk driving impressions.
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I don't really know too much about this car.
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They have released prices now, right?
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We know it's out there.
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We know there could be other variants coming.
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We know it was designed by a guy called,
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fuck it, that'll do Damon, just submit it.
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Do we want to talk pricing?
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Because I have actually got it up.
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What are we done with?
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It's all in my head.
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I'm so good at this stuff.
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So you've got about 10 variants coming, right?
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So at the top of the line, you've got the X-Pro.
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And that is like a really solid off-roading car.
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And that does look good, I will say.
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That one definitely looks better than I think a lot of the S-Line,
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which has a much bigger nose on it.
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So the X-Pro, that's going to be about $75,000 before on-road costs.
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And then ride at the other end.
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But for that as well, you get all the transmission lock.
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You've got the low gear range.
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You've got cameras that look at the floor when you're driving.
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I found that to be not at all useful.
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It was too mushy to make much of an impression of anything.
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But I'm also not great at off-roading someone else who's better
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than me might get more use out of it.
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So it's got the sports bars and stuff like that on it?
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Because I saw it with the sports bar.
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I'm like, that better be a factory.
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Look, I think that there are accessories.
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You've asked me a specific question, which I have not prepared for.
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I don't know the answer to that.
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Just make this shit up.
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It's not like I sat in three press conferences
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and was specifically told that information.
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But at that point, I was probably playing Snake
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on my phone or something.
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Do you know when they first launched this in Tassie?
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See what they did there, guys?
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The PR team are fucking geniuses.
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So someone, it was literally like the Homer Simpson car.
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One of the press journalists.
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So one of the press journalists put their hand up.
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Possibly it could have been Dave McCow and I'm not sure,
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The first question was, is it too late to change the design?
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And the designer was there.
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And he's like, yes.
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That is a bold first question.
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Well, look, the design is controversial.
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You can't go online without people talking about it.
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I reckon the S and the SX variant are uglier than the X-Line,
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So I think the X-Line Pro is definitely the pick.
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From what I've heard and, you know, who am I to spread gossip
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on this fine established journalistic podcast that we're on.
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From what I was told.
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You hear that HR, HR, HR.
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Do you say that to Paul?
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Do you say that to Paul?
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He looks like the kind of guy who would.
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That pressed fruit bowl that he does on the glass of that studio door.
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I touched that with my hands before.
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That fruit was out of season.
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Let me just say that.
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There is a fruit fire problem.
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Again, I really hope that you guys wipe that down nice and well.
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So the rumor, the interesting rumor that I was told from
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a couple of people is that there were a few designs, right?
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And there was a design that was sort of unanimously preferred.
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And they were like, it's that one.
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And then there was a captain's call further up in the head office.
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And they're like, no, we're going for this ugly one.
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Because it's, and they wanted something that was really bold.
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And you can't deny that it is a bold design.
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It is something that stands out and they have to do something
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that stands out because they are late to the game.
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And they're in a very crowded market.
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And what they're offering, I think is not a bad offering,
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but only marginally better, I think, than what's already out there.
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And people can debate that it hasn't gone far enough and whatnot.
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They said at the launch, because I did ask the question.
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I'm like, I mean, this is all anyone's talking about
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is the way this looks.
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I mean, are you concerned about that coming out to the launch?
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And they said, look, we think that the angst,
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there was not mine, the angst about the looks of this
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will go down when people see it on the road.
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Yeah, and I do too. I do too.
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Yeah, I think what's going to happen is after time,
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this is like a design that is no doubt polarizing.
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But I think it'll soften by the time people kind of get used to it
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and see it on the roads.
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Another thing that Key has got to realize is,
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or people have got to realize Key has really transitioned
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their design language a lot.
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You look at everything from the EV9 and downwards,
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the Kia K4, all that.
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Now they've come out with this ute,
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and it really kind of has to set in that design language
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that they're coming out with.
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It does, and it's also tricky
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because they have to very quickly establish themselves
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as blokey ute makers.
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And this is the hard thing because I think of Kia
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and I think of sensible, nice lady cars for driving,
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I had a Kia Stinger.
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Is that a sensible lady car?
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I'd like to think it is.
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I'd like to think it is.
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Which was a great car, a great engine.
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A couple of people said like,
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couldn't you put the Stinger engine in the Tasman
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because it's, you know, but they haven't.
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Didn't they, hey, by the way, with that,
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I think they used the same one they're putting
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in the Hyundai Palisade.
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I don't know for sure, it's cool.
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I've thrown that one out there.
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Yeah, I love it how I have not prepared
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for any of these things.
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And that's what I'm talking about.
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Look, it is a 2.2 litre
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four cylinder engine,
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which is, and I didn't
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And did they talk about the towing on that?
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They did, but you know what, towing is complicated, isn't it?
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So it's like, it's 3.5
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when we towed something around it,
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it felt we were towing around a two ton caravan
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For all of these utes, they do over promise
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and you have to be a little bit careful
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about what your rear axle can actually take.
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If you're doing any sort of serious towing,
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is there any dual cab ute
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that you really would trust with it?
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when it comes to towing that I
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fully trust and that is
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just a piece of engineering genius
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in the towing department, in the off-road department,
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So, hey, one thing I did
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love about the Kia Tasman,
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especially in the X-Pro, the interior
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on this is really cool.
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They've taken the bloke ute
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and they've made it look really posh,
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like it's really well set out.
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The interior, and a lot of people
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were saying this is like, you know, you're looking
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that they've designed it interior out
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in a lot of ways. So you've got a really nice
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infotainment system in the X-Pro,
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you've got this sort of faux leather, not actual leather, but
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the seats are really comfortable,
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electric seats, heated
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seats, which is the one
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thing, the one thing which is
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non-negotiable for me, heated seats.
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I refuse to go back. I love them.
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Some people don't like them.
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My missus goes, don't check the heated seats on,
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it makes me want to poo.
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To be honest with you, everything
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makes you poo. You could walk
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past gluten. Have you got it at like
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the cooling seats? Maybe it would do the opposite.
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Suck right back in.
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But the heated seats
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in the front and in the back
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in the X-Pro, which I thought was
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a nice little touch, and the back seats
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actually had a reasonable recline on them
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too, because usually the back row is just
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miserable in these dual cabs,
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but the back row was quite
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roomy. The car is very large
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it stack up to say like, the
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BYD shock for instance, I'll go back to that, but
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I think it's actually not a bad car, but
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it's a bloody big bugger.
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Does it feel big? It feels big.
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And it is marginally
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larger than a lot of these big
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utes that are on the roads. I think
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you need that, right? Like, if you're going to have
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a comfortable back row, and if you're going to be
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try and separate yourself on the
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market, and they needed
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it to be big, and they needed it to be blokey, and
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you just need to look at the ads, right?
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To see how they're trying to position themselves in the market.
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Yeah, all the sports people cameos, like it's a
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Happy Gilmore 2 movie.
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Can I tell you a story about the launch? Go.
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I think it was on the second night, there was
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Tasman Town. And we had no idea what
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Do you need a map of Tassie to get around Tasman Town?
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I'm not answering that.
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So Tasman Town, as it turned out,
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they'd taken over the town of Safala, right?
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Safala, beautiful mining town, very
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small town, only has like 150 people
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population. Oh, I lived in
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Orange for a couple of months, right?
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Or you should know it. It's like around
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the corner from Orange. Yeah, no.
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It's like you're off there, and
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the night was... Were you abducted?
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Are you sure? It felt a little bit like that.
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When you were at a launch, you were at some weird
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made up town. I'm sharing my trauma,
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and you just have to receive the trauma.
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I feel like you're at a cult.
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It felt... It was an interesting
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night, because they brought in
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all these sports stars who
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were there, like Volkanovsky was there,
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Alex Volkanovsky, the USC guy.
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Boonie was there. I mean, they got all these
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dudes going regional. They must be
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there. There were nine of them, and I didn't know
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half... Unless it's a racing driver,
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I don't know any of these people, but they brought
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all these guys in, and it was, I would
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describe it as like live
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improvisation theater, and I would
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sooner, nor off my own hand, often
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than deal with that, because I find that very
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quite uncomfortable. So you're going in,
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and all these guys are assuming the
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characters that they've been playing in the ads.
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So like Volkanovsky is
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like the chef, and like Boonie,
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it's Boonie's bakery in there, and so
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the town mayor who is in the ads
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is like, oh, you know, hello, you
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newcomers, like come along, and I'll
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introduce you to your neighbors. And
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have you ever, did you ever go to
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Old Sydney Town? Yes.
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Imagine that. We had something
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when I was growing up, because I grew up in Melbourne.
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We've got something there called Sovereign Hill,
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and it's very, it's a very similar
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vibe, I reckon. Exactly that. So imagine
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those sort of like historical open-air
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museums or whatever. Only it's
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Tasman Town and a sporting
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star lineup that you've ever known. And I know
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Volkanovsky and the rest of them, and Boonie,
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because like, you know, it's Boonie. It's
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Boonie, a VB bobblehead. Yes,
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yes, legend. And everyone else,
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this was a very, very stressful time
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for me, because like I'm talking to people
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like, do I know you from a car launch,
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or are you some Australian sporting
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legend? I should absolutely know.
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Anyway, I'm just in this heightened state
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of anxiety, and then you put a lot of pressure
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on yourself. Are you alright? No, I'm not.
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I should give you a check down. It gets worse,
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it gets worse. So we're finally
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there to sit down and dinner part. And I'm like, oh, thank
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God. You know, now it's over.
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Like, I'm sitting down and so this guy sits
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next to me. And he's like,
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I'm Nathan, who are you?
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And I'm like, holy hell, that's
16:09
pretty aggressive starting
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thing. I thought he was just sort of like a
16:13
brash car journal. So I'm like, I'm Stephanie,
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who are you? And then he said, oh,
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I'm Nathan Hindmarsh. I'm one
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of the footballers. Also, I said,
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how are you? What's wrong with that?
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It didn't. I thought he said, who are you?
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And he said, how are you? So I
16:27
just been a massive bitch to him. And I'm
16:29
like, oh, mate, I'm so sorry.
16:31
I don't know anyone here. I thought you said
16:33
let's recreate that, right?
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So we're sitting at, we're sitting at dinner.
16:37
It's nice. It's been set up.
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And you're just going about your business.
16:43
going? I'm Nathan. How are you?
16:47
I'm Stephanie. Who are you?
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Oh, and he was like, I'm
16:51
fucking Nathan from the bloody
16:53
shitty football club.
16:55
He wasn't like that. He was sorry.
16:57
I bloody got involved in that case a couple of years
16:59
back that we can't talk about. But I might have
17:01
a job on celebrity apprentice.
17:03
He was so nice. He was such a lovely
17:05
bloke. Nathan, and he was, he was
17:07
very good human about the whole thing.
17:09
In that situation, I was the bad guy.
17:13
Can I cup your tea?
17:15
He talked about his wife and his kids.
17:17
It was wholesome. It was a nice story.
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I'm the bad guy. Okay. I'm the bad guy.
17:21
He's a good guy. He's a good guy.
17:23
All right. So anyway. So you got on.
17:27
Yeah, I got through it. But you could sense
17:29
how much time and money
17:31
had been sort of spent on this.
17:33
He's basically, he's
17:35
a stripper. He's been paid to talk to
17:41
I don't know if they'd like that, but.
17:43
They don't like a lot of things on their podcast.
17:45
Trust me. I'm doing okay. It's fine.
17:47
You don't need to stress. You're in safe hands.
17:49
We can say what we like.
17:51
I just, I don't necessarily endorse
17:53
the messages that are coming out on this podcast.
17:55
But yeah. It was, it was a
17:57
really seriously like
17:59
expensive and ritzy and quite
18:03
But it gave you a sense of just how much
18:05
they need this to work.
18:07
And they needed to work and they need to
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align themselves with like
18:11
blokes and tradies and
18:13
sporting stars and they've got to build
18:15
really quick. And I think their car is
18:17
good. It drove well.
18:19
The off-roading was really good. It's
18:21
really smart when you get off the tarmac.
18:23
It does a lot of the thinking for you.
18:27
four years ago, this car would
18:29
have been a smash hit.
18:31
I think like $75,000
18:33
at the moment for IKEA
18:35
and you're dealing with the tradies.
18:37
I think that's fine. I think like, I mean
18:39
it's kind of, it's somewhat priced
18:41
competitively. It's going up against
18:43
a lot of established
18:45
bloke brands that are out there. And Anna,
18:47
I don't know. It's a shaky one. We're going to
18:49
wait and see on this. Yeah. Well, they want to be
18:51
number four. So they want to be
18:55
That's their target. Well, but like to be fair,
18:57
like they're up against the
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Hilux, the Ranger, IZuzu, D-Max.
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Yes. So like four is good.
19:03
But when you look at the
19:05
BYD shark, I actually
19:07
that's where their competition is, I think.
19:09
And I reckon, I reckon
19:11
it's hard to come in with a diesel
19:13
ute when there's a lot of diesel
19:15
utes doing a good job
19:17
that are established and you know what their resale value
19:19
is. Whereas like BYD
19:21
comes in with a plug-in hybrid
19:23
and you're like, well, that's, that's a compelling
19:25
different offer. Yeah, but this kid's
19:27
can do a lot of things that the BYD can't do.
19:29
I haven't driven the BYD. Oh, yeah.
19:31
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look, I like
19:33
them. Like we, we joke about them a bit
19:35
on the podcast. I'm a BYD
19:37
fan boy. Like I friggin think
19:39
your performance is an excellent
19:41
EV. They make great cars.
19:43
In fact, like if I was to pick an EV
19:45
it would be at the top of the top of the pile
19:47
somewhere. But I think where they went wrong
19:49
with the shark is they advertised it
19:51
as a fun off-road car as well.
19:53
And you can see that
19:55
in their advertising. And
19:57
I don't know. I wouldn't confidently take
19:59
this. I'd probably, you know, I think it'd be
20:01
fine on the sand, on the beach
20:03
possibly. But that's where I kind
20:05
of draw the line. And I look, Paul
20:07
will tell you he had a lot of problems going up
20:09
test hills and stuff like that
20:11
with that car. So yeah, it's
20:13
it's a little bit shaky with the off-road
20:15
hill climbing and stuff like that. But
20:19
you know, you want to chuck stuff in
20:21
the back of a car. You need to cut
20:23
the kids around. I think it's actually great. The tech
20:25
it's good. It feels bougie. It's really
20:27
competitively priced.
20:29
Like compared to the top of the line
20:31
Kia Tasman say the X-Pro
20:33
this is like 10 grand cheaper
20:35
on-road. Oh god, if that
20:37
could even be 15. I
20:39
will say that the Tasman
20:41
was really good off-road. I'm not an experienced
20:43
off-road driver. And so I thought
20:45
that this car was going to have to do a lot of thinking
20:47
for me if we were going to not roll it.
20:49
And sure enough, it really did.
20:51
It's only got a rear diff lock, which
20:53
is a slightly limiting factor. But
20:55
the traction control and it is so smart
20:57
that it does manage just to
20:59
really chew through some fairly rugged
21:01
roads. You're a rugged
21:03
person. I am. Can't you tell?
21:05
I can tell. I'm so tough.
21:07
I'm so tough. You're so tough.
21:09
You know what you need? What do I need?
21:15
I went on a cute little road trip and my Genesis
21:19
Stefan likes to call it.
21:21
No, I had a Genesis. I took it down
21:23
from Sydney to Melbourne
21:25
and then up into the
21:27
Victorian Highlands. We took it
21:31
Lux. Yeah, very lux.
21:33
I tell you what, this
21:35
was one of the best
21:39
driven. Really? Oh my God, it's so
21:41
good. It's so good. TwinTurbo
21:43
V6. So it's kind of got
21:45
that, I guess, the Stinger engine in it.
21:47
It's got a really strong engine. It's
21:49
just got all the lux. It looks good.
21:51
Mine was like this matte green
21:53
and yeah, the coupe at the back
21:55
is definitely the best looking Genesis
21:57
out there. The thing about the Genesis
21:59
is that I always look at that car
22:01
and I'm like, what is that car? What do you mean?
22:03
They're a bit of like a mishmash
22:05
of other cars. No, they're not.
22:07
I look at them and I'm like, oh, you are an
22:09
amalgamation of every car on the road.
22:11
I love a bit of mishmash in my Genesis.
22:13
Yeah, I mean, look, they're fine.
22:15
They're fine? They're fine.
22:17
I'm sure they're beautiful on the road
22:19
but I don't get, if I see a Genesis going
22:21
by, I'm not like, holy hell. Really?
22:23
There goes a Genesis. Oh my God.
22:25
I kind of think of them as like Timu
22:27
Bentley's, like real Timu Bentley's.
22:29
Like with the way that the wings
22:31
kind of flare out on the Genesis badge
22:33
and I'm like, who are you trying to
22:35
fool? You know, it's like
22:37
they're kind of pretending to be
22:39
a fancier car than they are.
22:41
I don't respect that.
22:43
Really? I don't respect you.
22:45
I don't, but hey, but you know what?
22:47
Terrible things about my Genesis, you little
22:49
bitch. Get out of here.
22:51
Put me in a Genesis car. Get out of here.
22:53
I haven't driven one, maybe. There you go.
22:55
Get out of here, you fucking hussy.
23:01
Because you look at it, you look at it and
23:03
you're like, ooh, is that a nice car?
23:05
And then you're a little bit closer and you're
23:07
like, oh, it's a Genesis.
23:09
It's a great car. What's wrong with it?
23:11
It's just, it's not, I don't know.
23:13
You haven't even driven one. Yeah, I know.
23:15
I'm going to give you some homework.
23:17
You need to drive one, drive the
23:19
GV80 coupe, sports back, whatever
23:23
I'm happy to eat my words on that one.
23:25
It is kitted out and it is
23:27
fantastic and it drives
23:35
Doesn't look as good though.
23:37
Yes it does. It looks fantastic.
23:39
It looks really good.
23:41
It's not bullshit. How dare you?
23:43
I can't believe we're having our first fight.
23:47
Hey, I'm going to say a couple of names of cars
23:49
that I've driven and I know you've driven
23:51
and then you can stop on one and tell me
23:53
where we could talk
23:55
about. Are you ready?
23:59
Next. I'll get back to that.
24:05
You're having to do a little
24:07
step out of that. How long did you
24:09
have the car for? All right, this is
24:11
a pissing contest. Or is it?
24:13
I'd win. Yeah, you would have the advantage.
24:15
I've got a strong, steady stream.
24:17
I was afraid what you're going to say then.
24:19
I've got a strong fucking poonus.
24:23
I like cars, man. It's all
24:27
Sorry, what was your question?
24:29
I was too busy thinking about you.
24:31
How long at my schlong?
24:33
How long did you have the Yukon for?
24:35
I had it for a week, which is pretty standard.
24:37
So I was only there for the launch of that car
24:39
so I didn't have it for a very long time
24:41
but I really enjoyed it when we were
24:43
driving around sort of the back
24:45
areas, sort of Canberra and whatever
24:47
big country roads. It's like driving
24:49
a couch. The thing is with
24:51
that car, it is so big.
24:53
In fact, I think it's actually the biggest
24:55
SUV in Australia on sale right now.
24:57
Yeah. It for a bloody
25:01
like a piece of piss to drive.
25:03
Absolutely. It's so easy
25:05
and it's such a joy
25:07
and it's such a shame that like these
25:09
American yang tanks, whatever you
25:11
want to call them, they're getting a bad name like, oh, they don't fit on
25:13
Australian bloody roads. Oh, they don't
25:15
fit in Australian bloody shopping center
25:17
car parks. Yes, they do.
25:21
Shut your fat, bloody
25:23
northern lager, bloody
25:25
great northern drinking, fat
25:31
I can say that. My dad has prostate cancer but
25:33
Oh well, now you've brought the tone down
25:35
twice. No, I haven't. I've brought the tone
25:37
up but just shut up.
25:39
It's a great big fat American
25:41
car and we need to see more of this
25:45
I don't know, man. Driving that, I
25:47
loved it when I was out in the country
25:49
but like driving that back to
25:51
Maricville was white knuckle. Oh yeah.
25:53
Driving around Sydney, I took that to
25:55
I took that to the work car park
25:59
like Meritan sweets style.
26:01
Usually my Janice just loves it
26:05
I couldn't fit it in and I had to drive
26:07
at home and I had to get an Uber into
26:09
work. So there is, okay, the big fat
26:11
dude is saying it doesn't fit in a
26:13
driving car park. Okay, that's
26:15
city driving. Yeah, all right.
26:17
You've had your way but like whatever.
26:19
It's very, it's the cost of it
26:21
is a bit inhibitive.
26:23
It's so expensive. What is it?
26:27
1600, 1600, 70. Like it is an outrageously
26:31
but if you are a Rouse Hill Bogan
26:33
Don't say that. I'm sorry.
26:35
That is a Hills District
26:37
aspirational car. I think it's a
26:41
man car. You've got five, you've got five acres
26:45
horses. Could be on the gold. You've got kids that
26:49
And then you've got, no, it's a Hills District
26:51
Bogan car. There is nothing Bogan about that
26:55
There is nothing Bogan about the
26:57
Yukon Denali. Yes, it looks like a
27:03
It's ridiculous on the roads.
27:07
overpowered and heavy.
27:09
Did you say it's overpowered? Well,
27:11
it's powered enough.
27:13
It was fun to drive. I found the braking
27:15
a bit tricky on that car.
27:17
Did you find that when I hit the brakes
27:21
a bit touchier than I was expecting?
27:25
Maybe I'm just a shit driver. Yeah, I just found
27:27
it absolutely joy. I took that,
27:31
I took it on a few road trips and stuff
27:33
and look, if you have
27:35
a block of land, if you've got an acreage
27:37
and you don't need to drive into the city,
27:39
this is a great car just because the city
27:41
comes with issues. But yeah,
27:43
I don't think there is
27:45
anything Bogan-ish. If you're going to say
27:47
Bogan, I kind of think like,
27:49
fucking, you could throw
27:51
anything. You could put a bloody Commodore
27:53
or something like that's Bogan. No, no, no,
27:55
no, this is, this is
27:57
new money Bogan car.
27:59
I will die on that hill.
28:01
I grew up at the supercars
28:03
and I'm a secret Bogan. I grew up in the Hills District.
28:05
I'm not fighting any of this. It's not a bad thing
28:07
but that is, I reckon that's
28:09
who their market is. So what if
28:11
if a cashed up person
28:13
like with a bit of suave
28:15
if they've got a big bunch of cash
28:17
what SUV are they driving?
28:19
A Genesis. They're not driving a Genesis.
28:21
Yeah. They're not driving a Genesis.
28:23
That's a good question.
28:25
Because it looks very
28:27
what do you call it? Cadillac
28:29
kind of looks like a, I guess like
28:31
it would be driving an Escalade. Yeah.
28:33
Look, I have nothing against it. I reckon
28:35
the TV screens at the back
28:37
nice car was very nice to drive.
28:39
I agree. But like as soon as
28:41
you're in sort of narrow streets, it's like
28:43
it's brown pan stuff. Tell you what I reckon
28:45
you would like. Yeah. The Volvo
28:49
Indeed. Now there's a posh car
28:51
we can both agree on. It's not a posh car.
28:53
Yeah. So I live in Bondi
28:55
now. It only took me how long to mention that.
28:57
And I see a lot of the EX90s.
28:59
I think that Bondi though, Bondi is the
29:01
posh capital of Australia. I think that
29:03
the posh to resident ratio
29:05
there would be ridiculous. But I see a lot of
29:07
It's pronounced posh, but that's
29:09
Yeah. Only if you're
29:13
So I see a lot of them. I don't
29:15
think of Volvo's particularly
29:17
luxury brand to be honest. Really?
29:19
I don't. I think of them as
29:21
a nice sort of mid-range
29:23
vehicle. But Volvo see themselves
29:25
as a BMW. Right up there.
29:27
And I was like, yeah, I know. But
29:29
from the second I picked up that car
29:31
from the Volvo headquarters
29:33
and usually when you're picking up a press car, I'm sure you've
29:35
experienced this, you're picking up from this warehouse
29:37
they throw the keys at you and there's just cars
29:39
everywhere and you are desperate not to scrape
29:41
up the car and just break it. Press cars
29:43
get damaged because it's just chaos. So you have to
29:45
drive it out and then you're in the middle of a very
29:47
crowded suburb. And so you're trying to work
29:49
out how to drive the car. It's a pretty unpleasant
29:51
time, I find. But I haven't smashed anything
29:53
up yet. When I was picking up the Volvo
29:55
you know someone from the Volvo
29:57
heads office who was wearing a suit and was
29:59
so sociable and charming came down and it's like
30:01
you know gave me the tour of the car and you know
30:03
this is how you do this and my favorite
30:05
thing about the car is this and like I think
30:07
that you'll enjoy the speaker system. I'm like
30:09
I think I will enjoy the speaker system. You don't get that.
30:11
You don't get that. You don't. You don't. Like if you are
30:13
picking up pretty much any other car it's like
30:15
the keys get pegged at you and you are on your
30:17
own. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the
30:19
right that way, dickhead. Yeah, have you
30:21
ever smashed a press car?
30:25
Pavley doesn't know about this yet.
30:27
I haven't told Paul. Okay.
30:29
So and I don't know. He's not here.
30:31
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it.
30:33
But you know what, I did pay for the damage.
30:47
That is a big car. It's a big
30:49
bugger. Yeah, it's good. I actually enjoyed
30:51
it. It was a diesel. The problem
30:53
is I was coming out of a car park where
30:55
it's look it's a dicky car park where
30:57
the gate of the car park
31:01
you have to stop at a ramp
31:03
got a swipe your security card
31:05
and then the gate opens inwards
31:07
and so by the time you've
31:09
got clearance, one you've got to kind
31:11
of get up this ramp. So you've got
31:13
and plus dealing with the diesel
31:15
I looked at it and I literally had less
31:17
than an inch on each
31:19
space, right? On each side
31:21
I knew it was going to be narrow, but I've done it heaps
31:23
of times. I've been parking
31:25
there for over 12 months. It's
31:27
generally fine. But the problem is
31:29
when I sort of revved it to get up this
31:31
ramp, the whole thing just
31:33
fucking came out of nowhere.
31:35
Like really like push forward.
31:37
Oh no. And yeah, just I
31:39
really scraped the shit out of the side.
31:41
Drive by field. It was that
31:43
gate that got it. I'm like, what the fuck?
31:45
Oh no. How many panels?
31:49
the front quarter panel.
31:51
Yeah, it was bad. It was real bad. I mean
31:53
I paid for the damage and it
31:55
doesn't change my opinion on the car.
31:57
I think the car was actually really good. And I
31:59
think Great Wall are making some really good
32:01
cars. But yes, I scraped the shit
32:03
out of this. It's very, very
32:05
embarrassing. I haven't
32:07
touched wood, but like if you're driving
32:09
a lot of cars, it's a matter of time. Do you want to see
32:11
the photo? Oh yeah.
32:13
Let me have a look. I am
32:15
I can see the pain in your face. Oh wow.
32:19
I thought it was a bit of paint. No.
32:21
No, that's body work. No, I properly fucked it.
32:25
that hurts a bit. Yeah.
32:27
But can you see the amount of room I had?
32:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're crazy. It is.
32:31
But this is why I don't
32:33
take out anything that's a luxury car
32:35
because the cost of
32:37
repairs if you mess it up
32:39
would financially ruin me. Yeah.
32:41
It wasn't looked that I owned it. It was fine.
32:43
That was good about it. We did
32:45
what we had to do, but yeah.
32:47
This is the thing. Like it is hard
32:49
when you are driving a car that is not your car
32:51
and especially if you're changing them often
32:55
I was really anxious about that car because that
32:57
was a very large car and it felt big
32:59
on the roads. Big SUV
33:01
lot of go, lot of guts
33:03
but like taking that into a car park
33:05
if I've got a press car often just don't go into
33:07
car parks because it's like I can't be certain
33:09
not just me that someone isn't going
33:11
to push a trolley into it and
33:13
it was a nice enough car that I didn't
33:15
want to bugger it up. Like it was
33:17
really nice inside, really nice outside.
33:19
It's like I've got to return
33:21
this in one piece. It's such a
33:23
brilliant car. We've got an XC40
33:25
I love it. Yeah. It's such a
33:27
great little cheap run around car
33:29
and it's funny because I
33:31
look the spec we've got it's very basic.
33:33
I think it's cloth seats and stuff like that
33:35
which I was fine with. I think the cloth
33:37
seats in that one looks pretty good
33:39
Yeah. I would consider these. I would
33:41
consider now like we were talking
33:43
about this off air. When I was a kid
33:45
Volvo was the big fat station
33:47
wagon. Yeah. Station wagon. Exactly.
33:49
That's it. That family car
33:51
and it was the safe car. Yeah. But
33:53
it was Swedish and it was
33:55
it wasn't. I wouldn't have called it
33:57
shit. You know what I mean? I wouldn't have called it
33:59
like Hyundai in the early days.
34:01
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look it was never a bad car. I just
34:03
never found it a particularly sexy car. Yeah.
34:05
It's like it didn't have any of the sort of the
34:07
I still don't necessarily think of it as a sexy
34:11
that was a luxury car
34:13
and as someone who has worked
34:15
in audio and who really cares about sound they
34:17
handed over and they're like I reckon this will have the best
34:19
sound system that you ever have and
34:23
An electric car that's a bit quiet
34:25
plus all the speakers that they had
34:27
I was listening to my own music that's
34:29
on my phone hearing stuff that I hadn't heard.
34:31
Your own music like you might. My own not go.
34:33
Oh my god. Can you imagine.
34:35
Tell me about your music. Tell me about your
34:39
What does it sound like?
34:41
If I did have a rap album which I cannot stress
34:43
enough I do not have you couldn't waterboard that
34:45
information out of me. I wonder
34:47
what your rap album would be called. I reckon
34:49
it would be called. Born to be Mild.
34:51
It'd be like. Milk Toast
34:55
Sheenus. Fat Sheenus.
34:57
That's just the title of the album. That's not
34:59
like a rap. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
35:01
We'll work on the rap.
35:03
But yeah I was listening to it and like
35:05
I'm a sound person. I like you know good
35:07
headphones or whatever but I'm like I'm hearing
35:09
stuff from this car sound speaker
35:11
which I think has really good high
35:13
ends and really good and really nice
35:15
sort of balanced sound system. So I rate
35:17
that. I rate that if you can get your
35:19
hands on one of those give them a go. Yeah.
35:21
I think I was like this is the standard
35:25
it did set the standard I think for SUV
35:27
electric cars. They are big aren't they?
35:29
They've got everything in them it needs
35:31
to be there. They're so good with the storage.
35:33
They're so good. I think nowadays I would
35:35
consider Volvo like just a sexy
35:37
stylish luxury brand
35:39
and a luxury car. Yeah. And I think
35:41
they're doing far out that EX
35:43
30 and that little run around that they've
35:45
they've done. That's a great little
35:47
car. A bit small but yeah
35:49
I mean they look great on the roads. Paul
35:51
not so much of a fan but
35:53
I've got a lot of love for the Volvos.
35:55
Yeah. I reckon they're great. You're in an electric
35:57
car at the moment are you? Oh yeah we should
36:01
5S EV. No I haven't driven
36:03
I've never driven an MG. I was supposed to
36:05
actually on the topic of snafus
36:07
I was supposed to drive
36:09
snafu little issues little issues.
36:11
You're making up words today. I'm not making
36:13
up words I've just got a good vocabulary
36:15
I'm sorry I'm trying to try to bring
36:17
if Grifter and snafu
36:19
Snafu sounds like someone I'm playing on kiss.
36:21
Yeah. Here's the latest
36:23
out of Shabuzy and Shafu. I'm trying
36:25
to I'm trying to bring up the tone I'm trying
36:27
to help. Good luck. That's bloody
36:29
that's carrying shit up a hill.
36:31
But yeah we I was supposed to have an MG
36:35
something happened to the MG that
36:37
the car that I was supposed to be driving. Yeah yeah that was it
36:39
and so I've never actually driven an MG
36:41
but they feel like they're releasing
36:43
a new car every week those guys. Here's
36:45
what I'll say about the MG. I remember when they came out
36:49
HS and all that sort of stuff and I'm talking
36:51
like seven eight years ago they were
36:53
releasing cheap SUVs
36:55
and they were selling really well and
36:57
for me at that time
36:59
I was a bit like ho hum
37:01
whatever they've got their thing going on and
37:05
serve a purpose. So now
37:07
what they've done is they're bringing
37:09
out these cars that are
37:11
well priced and their quality and I'm
37:13
not like this isn't pissing in
37:15
anyone's pocket I'm just literally
37:17
stating you can check for yourself. They're
37:19
brought out of fleet where
37:21
one all the new design language
37:25
I feel like they're settling on these cars that
37:29
really well in their space. So
37:31
you look at say whether it be the HS
37:35
Hybrid Plus. I had that for a while
37:37
that was a great car.
37:41
I'm not a huge fan of
37:43
but everything else what they're putting
37:47
great stuff for their
37:49
space well priced well designed
37:51
and what I think it's allowing them to do is put
37:53
out these these cars
37:55
that are kind of like oh all right
37:57
that's a bit wow cool you're actually
37:59
doing that so that was like the MG
38:01
Cyberster for instance. Yeah like that EV
38:05
convertible sports car
38:09
called it a super car he's like 110
38:11
thousand it's not a bad price for a super car
38:15
love that that's cute. This isn't a super car.
38:17
It's cute when they've got that when they drink the
38:19
Koi. Yeah it's nice when they drink the Koi.
38:21
But it is a having said that the Cyberster
38:23
is I reckon it's a great car it's so fun
38:25
and it's it's fast and I actually
38:27
think it's worth the dollars but what I'm trying
38:29
to say is everything else that they're putting
38:31
in their space is quality
38:33
and it's worth the price
38:39
around about between 40 and
38:41
47,000 drive away as well
38:43
two battery types and range
38:47
kilowatt hour battery and the
38:51
kilowatt hour battery
38:53
somewhere along there so you're going to get anywhere between
39:01
just for transparency I had the top
39:03
spec which I think is like the essence
39:05
I mean you're getting essence
39:07
essence. Not as good as a
39:09
Janice has everything
39:13
the faux leather seats the heated steering wheel
39:15
which I know you love
39:17
heated steering wheel
39:19
oh god I wish my car had a heated
39:21
steering wheel I've got the heated seats
39:23
oh yeah oh yeah it's locked I aspire
39:25
to that panoramic sunroof
39:27
electric tailgate all the all the hoo-ha
39:29
the tech in this by the way the 360 camera
39:33
phone charging wireless Apple CarPlay
39:35
as well here's what I'll say like
39:37
$47,000 you're getting all that
39:39
in an EV that's driving
39:41
really well and it feels like
39:43
it feels way more expensive than it is
39:45
it drives really well
39:47
as a get-around towner picking up kids
39:49
doing your daily stuff it is
39:51
just mint it is bang on
39:53
for what it's supposed to do it's serving
39:55
its purpose so well the tech in this
39:57
I will say there's two things that
39:59
piss me off about tech nowadays there's all the
40:01
the bings and bongs the safety
40:03
we all hate that we all hate that
40:05
the first thing you get when you get into a new car
40:07
what do you do oh you turn it off
40:09
you turn it off it's like can we just
40:11
it's got all the tech and the cool thing I do
40:13
love about this is literally
40:15
with one swipe you can go swipe
40:17
save it to your favorites button
40:19
you got the favorites button so then
40:21
any time you're in all you're doing is just pushing
40:23
the favorites button which is on the steering wheel
40:25
and it's all gone it's not all gone
40:27
like you pick and choose what you want but the annoying
40:35
of the cars like the amount of times
40:37
Lane Assist has tried to drive me into
40:39
traffic it's not a lot but it's enough
40:45
when it's when you're driving next to a
40:47
really big truck for example and you're in a big
40:49
car and it's like I think you should be further along
40:51
that's like no no I reckon I don't want to be under
40:53
the wheels of that truck I think I've got this one
40:55
like let me I hate fighting
40:57
cars who think that you know
40:59
they're driving better than you and I've
41:01
never had it save me because I don't know about you
41:03
but I don't drive off the road that often
41:07
driving to car parks all the time you probably noticed
41:09
um yeah no this thing is packed
41:11
full of the safety tech which is
41:13
customizable the one
41:15
big plus for this car and
41:17
I think a lot of them aren't doing is
41:19
a lot of tech these days
41:21
is getting inbuilt in the screen
41:23
which is the most annoying AF
41:25
thing ever right we all agree
41:27
you don't want to be fumbling around
41:29
what they've done is at the bottom of the
41:31
the screen it's kind of hard
41:33
wide in so you've got
41:35
everything you need at that one touch
41:37
things like heated seats
41:39
heated steering wheel the
41:41
climate control is physical and it's
41:43
bloody easy the volume
41:45
that is actually physical that's all there
41:47
everything's kind of that
41:49
you definitely need is physical and
41:51
everything that you want to have that you don't want to
41:53
have to fumble in the tech is all hard
41:55
wide in it's probably one of the best
41:57
infotainment setups I reckon
41:59
I've ever used but EV
42:01
47 grand top of the range
42:05
think if I was to give it a bit of a
42:09
possibly driving range is getting to me
42:13
is getting me around about
42:19
published as about 430
42:21
which is a bit concerning I'm going to have to
42:23
check that out I suspect it could be a fault
42:25
I'm not sure but yeah
42:31
you need to get him one
42:33
yeah I mean look when you are like relatively
42:35
new to the game as I am a lot of this is just
42:37
getting into as many cars as possible
42:39
so you have like a sense of what is on the road
42:41
and you can start sort of building a
42:43
mental library of like oh well this
42:45
drove well in this way and but you know
42:47
compared to this or whatever so
42:49
it's funny there is a little game
42:51
that I've noticed that you can play with most
42:53
car riders or car journals which is
42:55
who do you think will be
43:01
that's an easy one but like
43:03
I'm not going to pick on
43:05
my peers and marriages
43:07
of course that's what we do here
43:09
like I said I am new to this game I cannot do that
43:11
give me another year and then
43:13
we're going to start bitching about the car
43:17
Chinese cars that have entered the market
43:19
who do you reckon will be
43:21
still in the game in this time
43:25
MG is one that comes up a lot as well
43:27
yes but they're not specialising in just
43:29
EVs no no but just Chinese
43:31
cars full stop Chinese cars who have come
43:33
into the market yeah because as we all
43:35
know there's been a huge influx
43:37
who will actually be here in ten years time
43:39
it's tricky because like even Volvo for instance
43:41
is a Chinese car they're just like
43:43
masking as a Swedish car yeah
43:45
but of the of the newer
43:47
so like will a cherry be around
43:49
do you reckon I think cherry is going to be there
43:51
I think cherry is doing really well I think
43:53
MG are doing great but they've been in the market
43:57
BYD for me would be probably
44:01
I have all of them I think
44:03
if you're going to bet on car brands
44:07
in five to ten years
44:09
I'd be surprised if
44:13
are still kind of floating about
44:15
I had their C10 and that is
44:19
worst car I've ever tested
44:21
really oh my god it's just
44:23
I hated it I hated it so much
44:25
it's so clumsy it's
44:27
undercooked it's not ready it's not ready
44:29
for the market it's like the user
44:31
experience is just who is the
44:33
focus group when they were putting this thing together
44:35
because it's so poorly put together
44:39
I know Paul loves but I hated it
44:41
the card is like I find cards
44:43
really tricky cards and your mobile
44:45
phone we're past that
44:47
I don't have a mobile phone that's going
44:49
so this card isn't proximity
44:53
you've got to tap it on the side
44:55
mirror and by the way it is
44:57
a happy gilmore tippity tap it
44:59
you're fucking around with it for so long
45:01
what else did I hate about it
45:03
it's got no wireless apple car play
45:07
in fact it's hard to find a car that has
45:09
in fact it's got no apple car play or android auto
45:11
so it's got none none of that
45:13
you literally have to use whatever the
45:15
Leap motor apps are the boot was a
45:19
it's kind of refreshing though
45:21
because I've had this conversation before
45:23
with other people it is rare I think
45:25
these days to get into a car we're like
45:27
that's a bad car and this is one of the
45:29
challenging things if you're writing about
45:31
this industry is that you get into it and it's
45:33
like it's another above average
45:35
car like it's rare that you get
45:37
something that I think is exemplary
45:39
and it's even rarer to get something where
45:41
you're like this is a lemon like we don't
45:43
have lemons in the way that we used to have
45:45
lemons at least we don't when they're
45:47
lemon years that's when they may become lemons
45:49
but we don't get them for five six seven years
45:51
we get them for two weeks so it's kind of hard
45:53
to say these days that was
45:55
that was trash yeah I think the Zika are
45:57
good I think they're based themselves really
45:59
well I think they've got good foundations
46:01
they've obviously got a few little improvements
46:03
here and there I think that mainly goes into
46:05
software for me as a personal thing
46:07
but yeah I think the the established
46:09
one about jaco jaco are good
46:11
I haven't had too much experience with them
46:13
I've had a little flutter
46:15
and I think they're putting together something really good
46:17
they certainly look good
46:19
are they owned by the same people who
46:21
own Land Rover I do
46:23
not have an answer for that off the top of my head
46:27
yeah because we trust that yeah I do
46:29
hang on let's let's try it let's give it a go
46:41
and Land Rover are actually part of the same parent company
46:43
they were both acquired by Tata
46:45
mooters and Indian automotive
46:51
I think that what a lot of these people are going to be fighting for
46:53
is just brand awareness
46:55
because we've had this like influx of car brands
46:57
and it's actually hard to keep up on
46:59
who's got what and where they sit in the market
47:01
and whether they're good and
47:03
I reckon that there will be a reckoning at some point
47:05
or another there's gonna have to be some of these brands
47:07
are gonna have to shave off because there's just too much
47:09
I think there are more cars and there are people looking to buy cars at this moment
47:11
hmm so who do you reckon is gonna stick around
47:13
I think MG and I would also say
47:17
they're just sales are killing
47:19
and they're doing interesting things
47:21
also they're like the biggest EV
47:23
car manufacturer in China
47:25
and they have been for years they've got a lot of money
47:27
behind them and they're one of the few that are kind of
47:29
manufacturing everything
47:31
every part of their car they manufacture themselves
47:33
I spoke to someone who worked at BYD
47:35
and they were like oh we got to go to
47:37
a tour of the factory right and it's like
47:39
you arrive at the factory
47:41
the factory is the size of a city and it's like oh okay
47:43
well to go get your pass
47:45
you first have to get on the BYD
47:47
monorail because it's so
47:49
large you can't walk there so like
47:51
it's got its own sort of like transport system
47:53
internally because it's just and like it
47:55
defies the imagination of someone
47:57
in Australia where you know where
47:59
we don't really do manufacturing
48:01
how ridiculously huge and how much money
48:03
is going into this so I think
48:05
BYD at this point are too big to fail
48:11
they're making quality stuff
48:13
and it's being well received
48:15
like I was in the Tigo 4 I think
48:17
and for the price of what it is
48:19
no wonder we're losing cars like the Ignis
48:21
because how could you possibly
48:23
compete on price like it's just
48:25
what is a cheap car has now
48:27
really fundamentally changed
48:29
I'll have to double check but I think in South Africa
48:31
they've launched I think it's
48:33
like a motor and Cherry
48:35
and I think Cherry is known as
48:37
like a luxury car brand over there
48:39
which is so wild considering
48:41
like what they've launched here
48:43
the same car, same sort of
48:45
stuff at an amazing price
48:47
it is really hard I think
48:49
for the Korean car manufacturers to sort of work out
48:51
who they are in this market like what is
48:53
cheap has just been redefined
48:55
and it's really hard to do
48:57
I think it's great though I think it's good I think it's bringing on more competition
48:59
I think it's putting people in
49:01
brand new cars in safe cars
49:03
new cars with big warranties like that MG
49:05
I hate to bring it up again but the MG
49:09
that was like a 10 year warranty
49:11
I think the thing is like a warranty
49:13
and the same thing for the Tigo
49:15
it's got like a 7 year warranty something ridiculous
49:21
as the parts being available
49:23
the service you're getting
49:25
so it's like when these
49:27
things start to as all cars inevitably
49:29
have their issues and whatnot
49:31
will they actually be fixable
49:33
and serviceable I think that that is the
49:35
next big test and you might get
49:37
people to buy your car once but if you give them bad
49:39
service and the parts aren't available
49:41
and they're on a back order for four years
49:45
and that is the true test of a car
49:47
and they haven't been on the roads long enough
49:49
for us to know that I think
49:51
look at this, you're stamping it down
49:53
you're like the young event of car journalism
49:55
thank you so much yeah just don't
49:57
no one fact check anything I say okay
49:59
if we can all agree on that I sound very convincing
50:01
yeah I think it's good do you know
50:03
what I loved you had a rant
50:07
the other day right so many
50:09
yeah so many but it was one of my
50:11
favorite things I like to look at
50:13
on YouTube and it was
50:15
I don't know if I'm allowed to say it
50:17
but it's the fat chicks
50:19
at Disneyland plus size park hoppers
50:25
at Disneyland right and they test out
50:27
like the different food
50:29
sorry they test out the different foods
50:35
it's like it's incredible they'll be like
50:37
okay the triple stack was okay
50:41
mountain ride was okay but
50:43
if you have a no pan the camera down
50:45
if you have a look at me it's been giving me
50:47
thyrash I haven't seen
50:49
talking about thyrash I think you're being mean
50:51
I mean like I like it
50:53
if you if you can't eat the whole
50:55
thing just stick it under your armpit
50:57
it'll keep warm for a couple of hours
50:59
for people who are listening
51:01
that is so unfair you know what they're just
51:03
a bunch of fat chicks who are who are just like hey
51:05
I'm fat like here's what the experience is
51:07
you might fit in this ride you might not fit
51:09
in this ride and I and here's the thing I've got skin in the game
51:11
I used to be a fatty right not
51:13
not plus size park hopper fat to be fair
51:15
but like how big are we talking
51:17
look I reckon I'm about
51:19
sixty three or four kilos
51:21
now right I would have been about
51:23
eighty six that's all right
51:25
that's me now yeah but like
51:27
I didn't carry it well so like I was festive
51:29
have you got a photo I do but I have to
51:31
dig it out it will put it in the show notes
51:33
can we fat Stephanie
51:35
can we put it in the loop fat Stephanie
51:37
I don't I it's like a video
51:39
and it's more it's more as well
51:41
as an 18 year old I just I looked like a
51:43
50 year old woman who'd gone through a couple of hard
51:45
divorces and she had two teenage
51:47
sons who she just didn't like
51:49
yeah I didn't like her
51:51
no no recently shut up and play with your
51:53
fucking PlayStation
51:55
Steph's got to get back to bloody
51:57
I wouldn't have to work so hard if your
51:59
dad didn't leave me for that 20 year old
52:01
A anyway so like that that was the
52:05
I'm not I'm making fun a little bit I agree
52:07
but I genuinely think
52:09
it's just very it's just very
52:11
interdating stuff like it's very
52:13
like what's nice about them
52:15
is their charismatic women who are actually
52:17
have good chemistry but you go into the comments
52:19
and people are just so mean
52:21
in the comments like
52:23
the village costs so little just be nice
52:25
come on come on if they're putting
52:27
themselves out there like that they've got
52:29
a bloody they gonna know they're going to get
52:31
roasted like just for existing
52:33
no they're not existing
52:35
they just say like hey we're fat people
52:37
were at a theme park we thought this and
52:39
everyone's like they lose their minds
52:41
no no they're doing more than that they're going
52:43
this is if you're if you're like a
52:45
what do I say what's the correct thing
52:47
by the way they call themselves a plus-size pack
52:49
but like you are coppers but you can
52:51
you know fat is a descriptive word
52:53
I can say I was fat and I can say that those women
52:55
were fat am I fat can I say fat
52:57
I don't think you're fat I think I'm fat
52:59
I reckon I can say fat
53:01
and I reckon I can say like that
53:07
anyone who sees my like
53:09
reviews on insta where I'm just doing the selfie
53:11
thing the millennial high
53:13
angle yeah yeah they can tell
53:15
and though the amount of times I've got to breathe
53:17
I reckon I can classify
53:21
I think that there is actually a few interesting studies
53:23
that if you are mean to people on the internet and just
53:25
you know like just say mean things
53:27
you are statistically more likely to be a cunt
53:29
in real life so we can
53:31
we're not like that
53:33
but like you know if you're a
53:35
asshole online you're probably an asshole
53:39
so just if you have the choice between
53:41
being an awful person online
53:43
just seeing that and being like
53:45
whatever I'm going to let that go
53:47
and I don't actually have to be an asshole
53:49
then in which case like
53:51
choose the second option
53:53
I feel like this is going to go up online
53:55
I'm just going to get a bunch of mean comments
53:57
what about those guys
53:59
have you seen that family who goes to like
54:01
Costco it's like a double chocolate chip
54:03
cookie we're trying it right now
54:09
no wonder you like the Yukon Denali
54:11
I'm taking that thing to Costco
54:13
yeah look it's just
54:15
the weird sort of dichotomy of me is that
54:17
I love cars and I love like big cars
54:19
and stupid cars and petrol and whatever
54:21
and I also like EVs but you know I'm a bit of a
54:23
dirty tree hugging greenie as well
54:25
and I just try not to think about that
54:27
but there is something about the ridiculous
54:29
consumption of America which I find very entertaining
54:31
and I kind of admire it
54:33
like look at you guys
54:35
that's exactly what I'm talking about with the plus size pack
54:37
yeah and the Yukon Denali
54:39
yeah that is that is as big and as obnoxious
54:41
as a car can get good for you
54:45
I wonder if they drive a Yukon Denali
54:49
see I didn't say that
54:53
how the tables have turned
54:55
now I'm the bad guy
54:57
sorry for anyone who actually wanted to hear about cars
55:01
no that's what we're all about
55:03
you're putting this podcast on some sort of a pedestal
55:05
we barely talk about cars
55:07
I feel like I listened to you guys once
55:09
and they know what they're talking about
55:11
they kind of talk about cars
55:13
yeah we'll get to cars eventually
55:15
but there's a lot of like waiting through the shit
55:17
and just crap that we talk about
55:19
but hey if you do want to listen to me
55:21
roundabout dumb shit on instagram
55:25
my last name is Coombs
55:27
how we spell on that
55:31
you're going to get a whole heap of
55:35
you know what I'm always happy
55:39
have you ever got like a creepy dam
55:43
I got a really nice one once from a guy
55:45
I was like I just want to pay you to exist
55:47
and I'm like oh no I better not
55:49
what does that mean I want to pay you to exist
55:51
just pay me to exist
55:53
but then I was like look at his profile
55:55
I'm like oh man you're not rich enough to do that
55:57
is that a nice way of going
55:59
hey here's 200 bucks
56:01
no it wasn't even like
56:03
you know he was probably like a little pay pig
56:05
I don't want to take money from someone
56:07
I totally will and I'm open to that
56:09
shit yeah if you want to pay me
56:11
hey by the way if anyone's listening and wants to DM me and pay me 200 bucks
56:15
I'll do a little dance for it
56:17
I will get my butt out and I'll get my butt hole
56:19
and I'll be up and on this
56:21
I will give you 200 dollars to not see your butt hole
56:25
pay me 200 bucks right now I'm getting my ass out
56:27
cause like Christ y'all
56:29
a wire or two yeah like that's how you could actually
56:31
make money yeah it's like reverse only
56:33
fans yeah exactly it's like every
56:35
day I get 200 bucks
56:37
I'm not gonna show you my butt hole
56:39
yeah I'm gonna threaten
56:41
I'm gonna threaten to get my dick out
56:43
yeah yeah that's I reckon new business model
56:45
but I want 300 bucks
56:51
people would pay for the health
56:53
and safety of people please we do not
56:55
want to see your tiny penis
57:01
the next iteration of the driver's show
57:03
yeah whatever it is
57:05
we're wrapping up by the way oh are we
57:07
I feel like we've talked about have we talked enough
57:09
yeah I reckon have we missed anything
57:11
I don't know do you know
57:13
Paul's been away everywhere
57:15
and one of the places he was
57:17
at is Goodwood cause he loves
57:23
five kinds of jealous so what I've kind of done
57:25
is I'm making it my little
57:27
New Year's resolution oh right
57:29
yeah yeah yeah yeah so I know it's like
57:31
we're mid-year but I'm
57:33
I kind of said to myself so this time next year
57:35
I'm definitely doing Goodwood
57:37
yeah do you think that's gonna happen
57:39
see I've got this thing called
57:41
radio ratings and I don't know if they'll let me
57:43
go in yeah that's the thing
57:45
you just have to pull a really convincing
57:47
sicky yeah have a little
57:49
mental breakdown mid-B I could do that
57:51
yeah exactly like a that's pretty common
57:53
in my game and I believe
57:55
it coming from me because I can do a podcast
57:57
about men's depression or something and then
57:59
then you're off we can talk about our
58:03
have said that to Paul so many times
58:05
I said we're gonna get this podcast
58:07
up you need to start fucking
58:09
crying I need you to talk about
58:11
your mental health I need
58:13
I need you to share I need
58:15
you to be vulnerable I would love
58:17
to see him being vulnerable I don't know
58:19
if Paul could do it we're looking at him
58:21
right now we can see the photo right now do you think every morning
58:23
he looks in the mirror and just goes why did
58:25
Jesus make me so deformed
58:27
he has the cold dead eyes of a killer
58:31
werewolfy he's very hairy
58:33
and I just I actually tried to
58:35
get writing work for car expert oh did you
58:37
they ghosted me how'd that go oh no
58:39
why did you reply no
58:41
no was he well yes yeah yeah
58:43
but I was right Paul
58:45
you bitch no I don't think I got in
58:47
touch with Paul actually with someone else in the team
58:49
but that's fine I'll let that go
58:51
I now have a few little
58:53
places I write for and it goes very well yeah
58:55
yeah many many publications
58:57
I am I am many well
58:59
storied publications hey before
59:01
we wrap yeah you have a
59:03
three cars to go into a dream
59:05
garage I'd be keen oh man
59:07
that's too hard no it's not
59:09
oh let me help you out one classic
59:11
one EV now here's the deal
59:13
I always think at the moment
59:15
where I'm at in my headspace is
59:17
you can't it's like a topic
59:19
about depression again yeah
59:21
so you kind of have to have
59:25
a good idea to have like some sort of hybrid or
59:27
EV preferably EV yeah and
59:33
I honestly I'm honestly stumped
59:37
if I was going to go something old I
59:39
want something a little bit weird I think like 1980s
59:41
cars really beautiful so I would
59:43
consider like a Mitsubishi
59:45
starion for example of it which
59:47
is I don't think that that was a particularly good car
59:49
to drive but the ad campaign
59:51
for the starion at the time was
59:53
quite like sort of punky sort of
59:55
new wavey really cool really
59:57
sort of retro Japanese campaign yeah really great
59:59
new order it was quite beautiful the car
00:01
itself it's funny how you know
00:03
when your kid 1980s cars look a bit
00:05
you know ridiculous but now they're so cool
00:07
like that sort of like really boxy
00:09
aesthetic yeah you could even
00:13
like I'm a Porsche fanatic you look at even like the 928s
00:15
they were like what the fuck
00:17
yeah they look kind of cool now
00:19
yeah they do so I'd want
00:21
something kind of silly you know like I'd want
00:23
a car and like in good condition but
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but silly good condition yeah
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the ex 90 is top of
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mine literally because I was just in it and I haven't driven
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a lot of EV so I know that one is good
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BMW fan I would love to drive
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that doesn't catch on fire like yours
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to be fair to my car
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that it's an X one from like
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2014 so you know it is at that time
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where it just catches on fire occasionally but I
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the bath is 12 hour oh every
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every year I love the bath is 12 hour and the BMW
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is the one we're just shockingly
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yeah like shockingly beautiful new
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M2 is a good and you know
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speaking of cars that sort of grow on you like the
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BMW with the sort of toothy grill
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looked ridiculous I think
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when they first came out and they released something
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and it looks really absurd and then they sort of
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pull it back a little bit in later iterations
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and so like I think the
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X5 M is a good looking
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car like that looks like
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a weapon on the road yeah
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beautiful like that really so sharp
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I've been looking at the X3
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and the X5 M40Is and
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they're just solid they're so good
01:33
yeah yeah yeah it's a
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Mercedes new air class as well because that would
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oh I don't I'd be interested to know how that goes
01:39
we don't we don't talk about Mercedes
01:41
on this podcast oh don't we no no no because
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uh Merck Stolen quite recently
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really yeah yeah and Mercedes
01:49
refused to turn on the tracking device it's a
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whole thing right oh okay
01:53
yeah some of the reels it's all in there
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yeah because the GT you know
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AMG like I find those
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really sexy cars like big
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big front hood so maybe one of those
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it was really disheartening when all that happened
02:05
because I was like I'm never gonna fucking buy a Merck again
02:07
but oh and then you see one and you're like oh they're
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beautiful yeah they're so nice it's like I forgive
02:11
you it's like it's like a on the crazy hot
02:13
girlfriend's gal right like it's you know
02:15
crazy hot but treat you bad but so hot
02:17
and it's like I'm sorry babe
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I'll come back to you crazy hot
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girlfriends never gonna bring you a lasagna for lunch
02:23
that's the problem they're not they're not
02:25
but they're so hot and then you know you seen with them
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and everyone's like wow look at that
02:29
like look at that so like that's that's
02:31
she's home maintenance cost you a lot at the mechanics
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I know yeah haha but but also she's hot
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yeah I would I would be considering
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two-door ridiculous thing
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anything BMW would be great
02:43
good picks yeah yeah so look I mean
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picks yeah but also something silly
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you know a little silly it's something
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you know something that's hard to drive and
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ridiculous love it contacted the
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