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All right, can you start talking?
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Check, check, check.
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Yes, yes, yes, I can.
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Tell them what you say.
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Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves, Doug.
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Listen, we're going to be optimistic tonight when technology fails us.
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Whiskey will save us.
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Wisdom, not whiskey.
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Step two of three is completed.
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Ethan, would you like some Lagovulin or are you not a PD?
01:59
At this point, I would drink a campfire.
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All right, guys, let's get this over with.
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Where's the positivity?
02:14
This is just what a parade.
02:24
Better late than never.
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Not set about celebrating anniversaries and birthdays, but I'm streaming.
02:32
Sure, we can do this.
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This is not News 6CN Diego or what network was Will Ferrell on?
02:46
Somebody will have that right at the ready.
02:50
These patrons on our Patreon for coming in late, we were dealing with some unprecedented
02:58
technical difficulties in four years of doing this.
03:02
This is the stuff we kind of were scared about our very first live show back in 2021 and
03:10
prepped and prepped and prepped and after three and a half, four years, whatever we've
03:13
been doing this, it seems like things go smoothly, but then you just run into stuff, technical
03:20
Ethan has got it sorted out.
03:22
I think we are good to go and we are continually working on improving the live stream quality
03:31
for y'all because we want you to have a good experience.
03:36
It is looking good.
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Okay, it's looking good so far.
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We're getting there.
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We're Ethan's, well, we, I'm collectively, Ethan over there is doing lots of work
03:48
behind the scenes to improve the experience for the patrons and we appreciate the Patience,
04:01
Look, I was sitting over here just looking at Porsches while he was struggling.
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Porsche Patron Patience.
04:07
I do love alliteration, but we've gone too far.
04:12
Yes, Ethan, though, I was thinking about the live stream thing and I was on vacation
04:18
last week in Maine and there was a book in the lodge, the aluminum lodge in which we were
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I said, newbies guide to air streaming and I thought, oh, maybe, maybe that would help.
04:31
Is that an airplane thing?
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An air stream is like the trailer.
04:39
There might be a nugget or two in there that would help this.
04:42
That's the type of book that Hank would get you if he thought you needed help with, with
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So we, I was thinking of you.
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You guys are always struggling every time I come over.
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I thought about swiping it and just giving it to you, but never, never knew how apropos
05:06
The timing of that.
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If you came down here while I was farting around with all this stuff and you handed me that,
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I think I would have went home.
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That would have been, that would have been the last straw for the day.
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That would have done it.
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Meanwhile, Tyler over here doesn't know how to use a weather app.
05:25
He is literally doing the grandma and has a blanket over his legs.
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Doug, I gotta be honest, this might actually be the move.
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I'm so cozy right now.
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Oh, you've shamed me all you want.
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It's not even that cold down here, but it's like 60 degrees out and he wore shorts and
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Officially, welcome to Switchcast season six.
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I'm your host, Doug Tabott, here with my co-host, Tyler Sanders, and behind the
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Tonight, what is fueling this podcast besides despair and technical difficulties?
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We're being positive.
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Doug, nothing is fueling it at the moment because I think we've got a gift.
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We got a gift from Devin Ruckus all the way from Vermont.
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He drove this in the best off-the-shelf Scotch ever, in my opinion, very, very
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petty, smoky, lagoval, and 16, isle, single malt, Scotch whiskey.
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You're going to crack that bad boy open?
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Yeah, I'll crack it open.
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Yeah, let's get this going.
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I hope Devin didn't come out here only to give us a bottle of Scotch.
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I mean, I'm not going to complain.
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No, but, you know, we'll say he did because that is the level of expectation from the
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fans that, from dedicated fans that we expect.
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Do you not have a glass?
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I'm watering tonight.
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There's water in here.
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And vibe on my behalf.
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I got pulled over this week.
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The cop asked why I was going so fast, and I said, well, I stepped on an old pencil.
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Oh, man, I couldn't get to the mic quick enough.
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I thought I got it.
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We have a discussion, Patreon topic this evening.
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Again, if you're a Patreon subscriber or you want to become one, we have special discussion
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topics just for the Patreon.
08:30
Often they are more off topic or political or whatever.
08:37
And I'm sure many of you have heard about, seen the news stories on the illegal immigrant
08:46
non-domicile CDL trucker who pulled a U-turn on a Florida highway through one of those authorized
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vehicles only, emergency vehicles only places, and he turned from the right shoulder to the
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left side on a busy highway, and somebody ran into him, and three people were killed
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in this ridiculous move.
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It has, well, it's a big topic.
09:20
It's a heavy topic, for sure.
09:24
So we're going to talk about that tonight on the Patreon, not right now.
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But it certainly bears relevance to topics we've covered before, like the executive
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order regarding truckers being required to speak English.
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And therefore, read signs.
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Well, Monterey happened this week, which is a town.
09:52
A town doesn't happen, but anybody in the car world knows that Monterey is the mecca
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for car enthusiasts.
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It has become more than just a concord of elegance.
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It has become, well, the quail anyway has become kind of the release for all
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supercar prototypes, new releases.
10:14
It's where the bespoke manufacturers go to showcase their new products, because the regular
10:24
automotive show, as we used to know it, like the Detroit Auto Show, where the manufacturers
10:31
would showcase their new stuff, has all but died.
10:34
So Monterey has kind of become the de facto place for the specialty cars to be
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showcased, the concepts and stuff.
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You have some thoughts on that, though, as well, Tyler.
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So I have never been to Monterey.
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I have a couple of friends who have gone.
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I think you've gone.
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And see, so like I feel like I have missed the boat on the good Monterey.
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Now I'm saying this after I saw photos of an F-50 GT and well, all of those F-50s
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31 of them there, I believe.
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And the, there was a yellow Diablo SV with the black graphics, which is one of my childhood
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poster cars that just made, so there's incredible things to be seen.
11:23
And all the photos of what you see makes me excited.
11:27
But then I was watching some YouTube videos where a particular YouTuber that I like to
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watch was doing kind of showcasing what we see throughout Monterey.
11:37
And then I saw the gaggles and gaggles of people walking through traffic, chasing to
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get the same terrible photo of a Sesto Elemento.
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And like all of this.
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Well, the photo is terrible because the car is.
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I'm just going to throw it out there.
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That thing is hideous.
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It's not great looking, but I think it's cool, like what it is.
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It's got a face for radio.
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But I think like I saw somebody online describe it as the TikToker broccoli head kids
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have ruined Monterey.
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Because like I would love to exist in the same space, but it seems to be getting more and
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There's more and more people showing up, more and more people trying to get, it's just
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holding their phone to get content and like is what Monterey used to be?
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Is it a new thing now that is just kind of worse objectively, more expensive, a worse
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And I've missed the boat.
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Well, I guess I could go back to our discussion about all of car culture being impacted by
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I don't want to say ruin.
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We'll just say impacted.
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It has its pros and cons, but certainly the, you know, cameras chasing everything around
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And like I saw in this video I was watching somebody run into stopped traffic.
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They didn't run into like moving cars, but it was at a stoplight run with their
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phone to catch a photo of the Sesto Elemento before it pulled away.
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And I'm like, what, what does that photo do for you?
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Like what just getting to see it in traffic should be good enough?
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Like why do you need to disrupt traffic, endanger yourself just to get a crappy
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So like you can see photos of cars on the internet.
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So 20 years ago, you couldn't easily see photos of cars on the internet.
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I don't think social media was a thing.
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I think, yeah, Facebook was still barely on the scene.
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I had a MySpace 20 years ago.
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Yes, we had digital photography at the very least when I was a kid being a
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car spotter that would go to shows and chase cars down and get a picture is
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because literally if I didn't take a picture, I wouldn't be able to see
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I wouldn't be able to relive that memory except as a memory because I'd go to
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write aid and drop my photo off to get developed and a week later I'd get it
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Now like I hardly ever take pictures on my phone at car shows because I can
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see 73 pictures of the car again if I want to.
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And the experience of seeing it with your own eyes of hearing it run
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hopefully and drive like that was one of the coolest things about Emilia on the
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few trips I've done with you guys is like we saw I think it was a 917 driving
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It was so loud and so cool and like that was and it was a fleeting few
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But that is seared into my brain because I wasn't focused on capturing
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I think you need I think you still need to go to Monterey.
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I think that there's a both and to this is you could say well Monterey's
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been ruined because it's so overrun but the popularity of it comes because
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Monterey has continued to grow and grow and grow in the in the wake of other
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car shows even concor events going by the wayside and contracting.
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So I think they've done a great job of taking what was already one of the
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greatest car events on the planet and building it up.
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Now it's not what the old guard may like and we can yell at the sky and say
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oh my gosh there's too many kids with phones but hey that's also the next
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generation of kids that are going to be interested.
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Maybe now they're manifesting it in making content or whatever but
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they'll grow up I hope maybe and then they'll buy a point to
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sample Porsches and it is a rare they are but it is amazing how
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mundane a 9-11 looks after a week's worth of Monterey content.
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I know like it's not why I have one I don't care but it's crazy to see the
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photos and videos and like oh that's just 9-11 it could be like some
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million dollar singer or something but it still just looks like a 9-11 when
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it's next to some Pagani yeah Huayra or I was in I was on the opposite
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coast of America I was in Maine during Monterey which is usually where
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I am and why I don't go to Monterey and the funny thing was I was at
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my sister's gas station Ralph Scott gas nice in the middle of nowhere and two
16:29
69 Camaros pull-up that were you know Z-28s
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lightly modded one had good paint the other one had
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lots of Bondo and it was like we're all getting excited about that
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it's like oh man two Camaros Z-28s I'm sitting there going
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the irony but even in that moment they were special to me a Camaros Z-28
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isn't that special I mean 69 Camaro is always it's
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like the best-looking one they've ever made but it's just like even in that
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moment I was like this is cool and we talked to the owners we got excited
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about it whereas at a Hoyty-Toyty caravan they
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would be looked down upon rejected you know so it's all
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context but that was a pure car moment for me
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but those pure car moments are why I'm still a car guy
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I'm so over all of the social media laden stuff that I just want to have a good
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experience and just exist in the moment
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I think what you have to do for Monterey is what we do for Amelia is you
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have to make it your own you can't try to do everything
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and see everything and take pictures of everything you have to ignore the
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crowds you rent a house with friends which in
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Monterey may not be possible but you rent a house with friends you pick
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the events you're going to go to and you just see what you want to see and
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take that part in and not so much worry about the FOMO and everything
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else the craziness that's going on because you can only do so much
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yeah we'll see maybe next year I would like to go now again I saw the
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photo that f50 GT and was like oh like one of my holy grail
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things to lay my eyeballs upon here they have
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there's a verified offer for 30 million dollars on the f50 GT
18:12
rumors of a hundred million dollar offer which I don't believe but the 30 million
18:15
I I absolutely am on board but it was running and it was
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moving and that's the stuff I like heck yes
18:23
well we are fully warmed up at this point and I think it's
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about time to move on to our main topic we will come back to Monterey
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a little bit in our second topic um
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but we'll table that for the moment um
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as we're stalling we're pausing for effect here
18:48
Ethan was too busy talking espresso and ice cream here I forgot uh
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no I was pretty I haven't had too much whiskey so that was actually pretty good
18:57
oh I told a joke at um at our friend's house the other day
19:01
and the like 12 year old boy that was in the family nobody else
19:08
laughed and I this was like my third joke and he finally laughed at one and
19:12
then he goes I'm I'm actually angry at myself that I'm laughing
19:16
that's how you know you did a good job oh I loved you
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when I can get my fiance to just like give me the side eye after making a
19:24
joke oh it just warms my heart like I know I did a good job
19:27
if Aaron laughs I put it in my joke notebook because I'm like you know it
19:32
works you know it's good um yeah that's my joke
19:36
notebook is where our opening line came from we know what we're talking about
19:39
despite evidence that contra I had that I like it
19:42
who knows when it came to my brain but I wrote it down
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the Sheffield brand was recently revived by Jake Turkbus an owner of an
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original Sheffield Allsport Diver he received from his parents in 1970
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when he was just 11 beginning his love of watches
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as an adult Jay used his extensive expertise in product development and
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marketing to revive the brand that started it all
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he set out to develop watches with a high level of quality and specification
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at a value price his first effort and a successful one on july of 2023
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was the debut of the Sheffield Allsport Diver one
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it had the kind of build and movement that much more expensive watches use
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and his debut price of 108 dollars was equivalent to the 13 dollars his
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expanded to a wider range of automatics and chronos
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the Sheffield well of clever and unique design
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21:03
let's talk about scams why not that's that's our it's our bread and butter here
21:09
is a car dealer scams we don't like them
21:13
they should keep happening though they sure keep happening
21:17
and gee it's kind of a similar story every time
21:22
this particular one is BUL auto bull auto
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I guess it is bull auto because they have a logo of bull with horns
21:32
although the guy missed missed an L in there
21:36
and they are based primarily out of Albany
21:40
but also Jacksonville Florida
21:43
and there are multiple lawsuits against them currently
21:48
as well as investigations by the police and federal authorities
21:55
allegedly they are being sued by Stellantis
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who holds four million dollars in a quote unquote master loan
22:06
that it provided to the dealership in order for them to fund inventory
22:11
but they also hold a security interest in all of bull auto's assets
22:16
they are being sued by a couple of customers
22:21
and boy is it not good yikes cars have gone missing right so cars that were supposed to be
22:31
bought with this floor plan financing were not at the dealership when the finance
22:36
company went out to do their audit
22:40
apparently according to this article on MSN which is very very good detailed article
22:47
the dealership and this is a new one I had to think about how this worked actually
22:52
because I'm not a scammer so I don't think like a scammer
22:58
23 according to this article 23 vehicles were sold quote out of trust
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which means that the dealership sold them without paying back the loans on the cars
23:12
I didn't even know there was like a phrase for that out of trust
23:16
I learned that official phrase just now as well
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seven of them were sold to third-party dealers and then leased back now that's
23:27
that's a new one right so they sold them
23:30
they had a lien on the vehicle or at least a security interest was held on the vehicle
23:36
whether or not the floor plan company placed an official lien on it probably doubtful
23:41
floor plan companies usually don't do that but
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that there's a lien on the vehicle over here they sell it to another dealership
23:51
that dealership then likely gets financing on their end so there's two
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people that hold security interests
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unsecured security interests if that makes any sense on either end
24:07
which is crazy to me because typically floor plan companies require
24:10
you to send them the title so this is all nuts but I guess they they sold these cars
24:16
didn't pay off the loan sold them to another dealer and then had the dealer
24:19
lease them back so they're making payments to a different dealer just so they could have
24:23
the cars on their lot so that they were there when the floor plan
24:27
I was wondering I was like why would they be paying to lease that I get it now but like
24:32
so many like layers and hoops but they're still paying the original the loan to the floor plan
24:40
company too so to me this makes no sense right typically and we've talked about these scams
24:46
in the past there's one of two reasons why people are doing this one is they have
24:51
a ridiculous delusional belief that this will work out in the end that they can turn this around
24:59
and I just need more cash flow I need more time I can make this next deal the market's
25:05
going to go up on this car whatever their belief is that I'm going to make so much money that I
25:11
can pay off this mess or two they have a fraudulent intent and they are not intending to pay off any of
25:23
this they're just doing this to build up their Ponzi scheme and walk with a whole bunch of cash
25:30
that they've taken does it happen that they actually get to walk though because this dude
25:35
seems to be in a lot of trouble that's a really good question some people who've done this
25:40
in the past have not had criminal charges filed against them only civil most of the recent ones
25:50
including clay tom of cnc exotics have ended up getting criminal charges filed against them at
25:56
some point or another now it's not a violent crime it's a white collar financial crime so
26:04
some of them may spend a few years in prison and then come out and they have a bunch of money
26:08
hidden somewhere came in islands however they do it and they maybe just say okay well shoot few years
26:18
in prison is worth it to to pull off this scam and have a bunch of money an interesting thing to
26:24
note about this so right now there have not been any criminal charges filed but there are a
26:31
number of civil actions against the owner of bull auto bull auto uh vladimir rangulov
26:42
it's interesting to note though that he has homes in albany new york and in jacksonville florida
26:50
jacksonville florida if it's his primary residence florida has a pretty nuts homestead law
26:58
that protects your primary residence in florida with a few stipulations against any civil action
27:07
or debt collection oh so everything could go but the house right which is why it's not the only
27:16
reason why but it's why you see so many massive multi-million dollar mansions on postage stamp
27:22
lots down in southern florida yes it's also beautiful down there but it's a great place
27:29
to hide a significant amount of equity if you're concerned about legitimate or illegitimate uh claims
27:36
against you obviously people of means want to legitimately protect their assets and so this
27:43
is a good way to do it but then there's also people like rangulov who have uh shady dealings
27:51
allegedly shady dealings that they need to protect themselves from and so this may be a preemptive
27:57
way of saying i'm going to bury a bunch of equity down in an expensive home in florida
28:04
now one of the rules is if you're within city limits the property cannot be more than a half
28:10
acre okay uh outside of city limits i think that it's up to 165 acres so that may be where a significant
28:20
amount of money went now i consulted with a florida attorney from right law to get some
28:27
clarification on this and he responded with this um because i asked about if there's criminal
28:34
action against him is his home still protected or is it only protected from civil and his his
28:42
opinion was if they can prove that you used criminally criminally obtained funds to purchase
28:49
the civil asset whether whether it's a home or not they can execute a seizure on it otherwise a
28:55
civil judgment is not chargeable in bankruptcy which does not take your home i think i misquoted
29:04
that slightly but anyway it it would only um yeah if the feds can prove that he first of all did
29:12
criminal acts and then use the proceeds to purchase his home then they could take his
29:17
home in florida but otherwise it's pretty safe okay if it's his primary residence so anyway
29:23
that's not uh where the primary part of this topic but it's just interesting right scammer's
29:29
gonna scam and they're always looking ahead looking at ways of protecting themselves from
29:35
crap that they do i tell you though it's got to the point where the feds got involved in this
29:39
i'd be a real i'd be mighty puckered if i was this guy like you're pretty uh you've been found
29:44
you've been had not been had but you're uh you're not gonna have a good time yes yeah and
29:50
so he was also doing things like selling cars to people not paying off the loan so they never got
29:56
their titles or in one instance he sold the car to two different people and just never sent them the
30:02
car yeah so in one of these articles there was a guy who traded in i think it was a Bentley and
30:08
a Gallardo in then put cash on top to purchase another car so in this case that person is out
30:16
there everything everything the the equity the cash the the goods yep gone his loans weren't paid off
30:23
on the trade ends and he never got the title for the car he bought because the loan wasn't paid off
30:28
to the other person and like there's no way of getting that back right uh probably not oh my
30:35
god probably not it's very very difficult look i don't have the kind of money to have a
30:40
Lamborghini and a Bentley but my god if i tried to make a deal on a car and i lost everything i
30:45
put into it just poof i would be like i'd still be okay because i'm not going to put my entire
30:51
life into it but like holy moly here's another thing he did this is crazy this is from a news
30:58
for jacks.com article uh local Jacksonville news outlet and it covers this one client of his
31:07
who had bought and sold a lot of cars with him built up a level of trust and then uh it it seems
31:14
like that this guy had done deals that were profitable so you know he bought a car from
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the dealership and oh hey you can make money on this they bought it back for more so he's and
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whether or not that was legitimate or a Ponzi scheme to get him to do this again we don't know
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but let's be honest the exotic and collector car market has been increasing a lot in the
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last five years so it's possible that he just got some good buys however um this is Peter Nassar
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that was the client and Nassar got a call from bull auto about purchasing a McLaren 720 s and
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apparently he was able to buy it significantly below market value in theory 260 000 which
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actually seems like a high price for 720 s but anyway um it never got registered in his name
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but before he figured that out bull auto called Nassar and said oh hey i have a buyer for you
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that you can make money on this so i need the car back well Nassar never got that money for it
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and uh bull auto kept making up excuses oh well the financing fell through typical like
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does this sound familiar yeah oh been down this road before with other scammers and
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in the meantime uh bull auto offers Nassar a Rolls Royce and it's quoted in the article
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as this Rangelov i can't pronounce any of these names Rangelov approached him with another
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opportunity to buy and flip another expensive car a Rolls Royce Specter
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okay so like fool me once you know whatever so like this guy going back the second time
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probably his fault but like and i feel like this scenario is not terribly likely to happen
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to someone like myself i'm not spending enough money on a car for somebody like this to take it
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but well maybe they could take advantage of me how do you sniff this out
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well uh it says here Nassar agreed to buy and flip the Rolls Royce even though the McLaren
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he hadn't gotten paid back for that yet but only if Rangelov would sign a promissory note agreeing
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to repay the loan which is pretty much worthless oh but it makes you feel good uh yes uh Rangelov
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also had uh or obtained a franchise with karma automotive a small time franchise my guess
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is that he did that in order to gain legitimacy it's certainly easier to get banks with whom
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you can finance or from whom you can borrow money it's easier to get insurance if you are a quote
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unquote franchise dealer so you pick a little tiny franchise it doesn't cause a whole lot to get
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and that opens up a lot of doors now the opposite may be true maybe bull auto just
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really wanted to sell karmas thought it was a big profit opportunity and they spent so much money
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meeting the standards for this franchise that he was having to well not having to but
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in his eyes having to play these games with cash flow to try to make it long enough to
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make money off of the the karma franchise so again we don't want to well we'll speculate on intent
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here but we're not going to assign intent one way or another but he went down the same road
34:52
that seems like all of these scammers go down whether or not they set out to be scammers in
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the beginning but you asked a question how do you avoid this yeah like if i'm going to buy a car
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from you know some cool sporty car i'm excited about like obviously there's some things that
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would throw me off but there is a point at the end of the deal where things are in motion
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yeah uh well you can ask for a copy of the title that's a good one to see if there's a
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title there if they haven't paid it off yet with the lean holder you could ask for proof that they've
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paid it off um you could look at their google reviews although in this case it doesn't matter
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because bull auto sales and service used car dealer in albany county new york has 276 reviews
35:36
with an average rating of 4.8 all that passes the 4.5 dude current there was zero recent
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negative reviews that indicated anything like this was happening whoa but those can be manipulated
35:52
they can't there are companies i get solicited by companies every day trying to get me to buy
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good google reviews pay to get my negative ones removed i won't do it not doing it i don't
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think that's fair play but some people do this may come up later in the podcast
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um another way you can avoid it i know you're smarter than this tyler but we keep seeing this
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this guy nasser should if any dealer comes to you with an opportunity where you can buy a car and
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make money that should be an immediate red flag because the dealer has some money they're gonna
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do it that is very very suspect i know some people that that's worked out for but my goodness don't
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partner up with a car dealer in that way just buy the car own the car
36:53
like i if it's too good to be true it probably is as i think really ringing true uh a lot more
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than it used to like it why would the dealer do all the work and pass some of the profits onto
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you for holding the money it does make any sense walk away unless they don't have the money to do it
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yeah yep um the crappy part of all this though is that these scams have essentially ruined my
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business but i wouldn't they like enhance your business because you're a stand-up guy with
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a great inventory okay uh they've well they haven't ruined my business they've ruined my consignment
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business i can no longer consign cars because we cannot get insurance for cars that we don't have
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physical titles and the the underwriter will not explicitly say why but when i read articles
37:50
like this and all of the scams i've covered they're almost all with consignment cars
37:56
almost all of them yes they also have a floor plan aspect to them but it's a lot harder to scam a
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floor plan bank because they come out with tow trucks really really quickly whereas consigners
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you can buy months and months of time yeah with their cash with excuses so even if you have title
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in hand if it's not signed over to switch cars and in the state of Ohio as we have learned
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converted into a switch car's title you can't sell it i am not insured in that scenario because
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what they want they want to avoid the liability of these massive lawsuits of me doing a you know
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you know burn the burn the barns type of you know take everybody down with me type of deal because
38:44
whether or not they are liable the insurance company becomes liable or at least has to defend
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themselves against this right because all these court actions litigation is extremely expensive
38:59
and the insurance company has to pay to litigate themselves out of these types of situations
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so for them it's not worth the risk and they're not the only ones that are
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refusing this type of coverage it's not just me it's other types of shops as well
39:19
so yeah it it sucks for the individuals who have lost directly in these types of scams but
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they affect even more than that because every scam every fivolous lawsuit every thing like that
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then has a trickle effect and it's starting to affect more people and it's affecting me directly
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so anyway if you'd like to sell us your car we can buy your car
39:52
with that moving to the wall of shame as if this one segment wasn't one giant wall of shame
39:59
for bull auto uh comes from the hybrid sienna club on facebook this is a good one uh somebody posts
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and twinette i think that's a woman safe to assume bought my 2022 hybrid sienna two days ago
40:17
can't find fuel for it not even with google or gas buddy worried i'm just slowly ruining it with
40:23
any other kind of fuel advice please but she's looking for hybrid gas
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technically you could consider ethanol based fuel as hybrid because there's dinos and corn
40:44
in there that could might be on to something yikes big yikes
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41:18
tyler you brought up earlier in the evening about the perceived frustrations with monoray and
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how big everything's become perceived dug i am frustrated okay well i'm frustrated at how
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unaffordable everything's become oh yes but before we go down a negative road we're going to talk
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about tonight the 25 000 or less cars that are still really really cool for the rest of us who can't
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bid 25 million at monoray and this is a thing we've been asked about multiple times even this
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week somebody asked me hey i've got a 30k budget all-wheel drive car i want something that's
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not a super not an evo something reliable but fun i've got an answer for that person that's
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hard it is hard but i came up with one but back to our frustrations with monoray let's look at some
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of the crazy results out there this week one we do need to follow up on our guess the cannonball
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dino owned by jack may that's won the cannonball in 1975 yes five
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regular dino sell 500k plus minus this one had a lot of miles on it so we'd say maybe 400 ish would
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be a fair market value there was a dino that sold close to or maybe four a million dollars at
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monoray big big money but our guess my guess i believe was 650 ethan did you pull up those
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numbers uh hyler's guess was 600 000 as to what it would sell for and it sold according to the
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hammer price app for 660 000 so but before i celebrate my victory that is including the
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buyer's premium so it hammered for 600 000 that's what i'm talking about we're i know the car here
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sometimes a little yes uh the one of the deals to be had a 1992 lamborghini diablo with just
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9600 kilometers a low estimate was 280 it sold for 230 plus fees that have like the five head
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gauge cluster yes yes the big one there was a couple other lambos it sold quite strong
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let's see a 2011 roof rt roadster was bid to 800 000 which was below its low estimate of 995
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although i can see why it looks like a soft window target it's very very weird it is a target
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body but with a convertible behind the target bar and it's not a good look on a modern car
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a 97 talk about cars getting crazy ferrari's were
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mental at monterey 97 ferrari f355 spider which is the least desirable body style but only had
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762 miles sold for 335 000 including buyer's premium do you think that needs the belt service
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probably probably moley uh yes yes the blood is boiling a yellow ferrari f50
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sold for 8.4 million what dollars ah yeah yeah plus buyers premium so i am officially out of the
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f50 market i've been out of the f50 market for my entire life but i'm officially out now can't
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afford it so let's look at the positive what can you afford for 25 grand or less anybody with a job
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can get a loan for 25k i don't advocate that but it worked for me anybody with a good job and
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a little bit saving should be able to buy a fun car for less than 25k but what i think is what i
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have seen a lot is everybody focuses on the the attention grabbing the big numbers the trendy
45:39
stuff like yes i would love an air cooled 911 because they look really cool and photos on instagram with
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a cup of coffee but let's be a little reasonable these cars that i think dug actually i don't know
45:51
what dug picked the cars that i have the handful that i've picked out i think are a great way to
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enjoy the car hobby to be excited about it to hang out with like-minded people and enjoy cars
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without focusing on everything that is 500 000 yes and these are not oh these are poised to go
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up in value this is not hagardy's next big thing list or bull market list or whatever they call it
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they are good cars which means they may appreciate but that's not our concern
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are they cool are they unique there are no portion 9 11's on this list because you really
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can't get one under 25 grand other than i think a 996 cabriolet or a really high mile
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you could probably get my car for about 25 well i didn't put any 9 11's on this list but i didn't
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either because i wanted this to be now i'm not like some hipster kind of like you've never
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heard of these before i don't know more than you do for the most part but i wanted this to
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be something other than the typical options all right let's fire through them my first one is
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a Porsche Porsche 914 hot rod you can still get nice a modified 1.8 or 2 liter or 1.7 whatever
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but if you get like a 2 liter swapped or even somebody that's built it into a 2 2 uh in a
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non-original 914 we've sold a few of them for less than 25 grand i think those are they're ugly
47:19
but they are super fun to drive and just hilarity for less than 25 grand i think they look pretty
47:25
cool um e 55 amg or any other late 90s mid 2000s amg car doesn't have to be a fit i think they're
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all a little bit cheaper than that potentially expensive so the nice one for 21 22 grand recently
47:39
every time i see one it sticks out to me it looks so classic that is a super sedan yep
47:45
Corvette you see this coming yeah c4 grand sport they are creeping it is getting difficult
47:53
to find one under 25 grand but i love that car it's the last year of the c4 six speed manual
47:59
or the automatic coupe or convertible blue with the white stripe down the center just like the
48:06
original grand sport and i think that's i think there's just a cool limited c4 that's kind of
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collectible i think you could also get yourself an awesome c5 in a cool color fairway green something
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like you don't need like a typical red even light carmine red um would be just a
48:27
an interesting color can really stand out and i think it's see i loved my c5 and a very interesting
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color and uh you could get a peace car yeah for under 25 Bentley are nudge uh and really yes
48:41
Bentley i would love one of those i hate the maintenance but they are such a cool big
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body luxury sedan not much better if you want to go to dinner and maybe even like hire your friend
48:52
to pretend to be chauffeur and feel really wealthy and thanks to tim nealy for this nerd knowledge
48:58
you want the oh to 02 with a single turbo 6.75 liter because the later twin turbo ones had
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what he described as self machining camshafts for which there's no real fix but nice yeah man
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that's that's peak early 2000s luxury so good that is 04 rich on a 25 budget literally 2025 25 oh there's
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there's our it's all coming yeah it's 25 under 25 that's our that's our title um i love i think it's
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03 to 06 the Pontiac GTOs this could just be my knee with a six liter not yeah like oh my god
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i think they look great even if they look a little bar of soapy um it's very of that time
49:45
and i kind of want one okay that's a good pick it's a good pick good aussie vehicle there
49:51
maserati grand sport again oh suggestion by tim neal i did consult tim nealy and myron
49:57
vernice our resident wacky car experts and uh yeah maserati grand sport it is the
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the the grand sport is the only one of the 4200s that had a balanced and blueprinted engine
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and it's actually so it's a Ferrari engine right for all the 4200s but it's timing chain instead
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of timing belt nice uh like what was in the 360 and it's its own engine but manufactured by Ferrari
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okay and it is a uh dry sump engine but then they did the crossplane crank as opposed to the
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flatplane crank so it has a different sound profile than the 360s in the 430 so it's it's
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like own little unique engine that was made over at Ferrari and the grand sports got the really
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special engine couldn't get them in a manual so if you want a manual you could get a 4200 GT
50:52
manual and that would be cool too but it's like again 0 for rich on a 25 budget that's all that's
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good um i'm gonna go maybe a little bit more basic a new edge Mustang mach 1 okay you can get you
51:07
get the hood the moves because it's got the little the scoop that comes out and there might be
51:13
bad rap with some mustangs but i think if you get a really good one interesting i don't see a
51:17
ton of mock ones you're gonna have a good time they're apparently great cars if you can if you
51:22
like how they look here's our answer to the all-wheel drive question Toyota Celica GT4
51:29
can you get those for 25 really even the like Tommy Mackinen edition really the the RC whatever
51:36
they call it yeah like fifth sixth generation the last two they're they're super cool cars
51:43
those are sick you they're not all JDM so you can get them in left hand drive but if you want to
51:49
be super cool you can get a JDM one wide body flared fenders turbo 230 horsepower i think it is
51:58
all-wheel drive it's a legit homologated WRC car for less than 25 grand like i was researching
52:06
these for the podcast i'm like i think i might want one of these for a winter car like i just
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sold myself on one of them yeah no that's sick heck yes and along those lines Toyota reliability but
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other end of the spectrum a v12 Toyota century oh i'd take any century but the v12s are now
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eligible for import have been for few years actually that's that is absolute peak obscure
52:33
luxury with reliability to go with it so i also think vaguely related because i think the
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century is more of a cruiser you know i wanted to think of things that maybe aren't just enthusiasts
52:44
like sporty cars you can get some amazing looking like 50s convertibles for under 25 so what prompted
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me to think of this i wasn't going to go there but okay let's let's hear this so i got a buddy
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of mine who likes cars are getting cheap they are but that's kind of the point is like
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if you want to cruise in like a really classy big old boat that is a type of car enthusiast
53:08
and those things are wildly cheap i thought they would be like all 50k plus now if you want like
53:13
a woody like chrysler town and country situation you're going to spend 35 or 40 but you can get
53:18
some cool stuff from all of the manufacturers from now they are only going down in value
53:25
but i think we forget to go back far enough to those kinds of cars that aren't as
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prized anymore because the real enthusiasts are starting to age out that is a hot take
53:38
and i guess if you go back even farther there's a lot of 20s and 30s cars that can be had
53:43
easily under 25 grand you're not going to carve up a canyon but if you just want to cruise around
53:48
in style yeah it's an option it's it's a piece of art yes yes very cool let's see i'm going to
53:55
go with sn95 cobra i would take the early five liter ones even though they're less horsepower
54:00
or i go for a 96 mystic cobra nothing like nostalgia in a friggin you know color shifting
54:08
Mustang along the four lines also an svt lightning those are getting real tough second gen those
54:14
are getting tough to find under 25 but man 5.4 liter supercharged v8 no weight in the rear
54:20
you can do burnouts for weeks so good speaking of Mustangs you can actually get some late
54:26
60s Mustangs that aren't anything crazy special no Shelby's or nothing but you can actually get
54:31
a decent looking late 60s Mustang for 25 grand or less bono queens maybe but i'd work straight six
54:39
yeah still like it's still cool like in my i remember watching all the hemicudas and Shelby's
54:45
go for like a million dollars on Barrett Jackson so the fact that some realm of those cars are
54:51
getting cheaper again because of the aging problem uh it's kind of cool heck yeah Aston Martin db7
54:59
not the v12 vantage but the inline six you can still get them if you try under 25 grand people
55:07
when they're selling them they're very proud of them they're like Corvette on British Corvette
55:10
owners but you can absolutely find them under 25 grand heck yeah i think this might still be
55:17
slightly possible but it's going to have to have a ton of miles there are some Honda s2000s
55:22
under 25 oh yeah that's a good car a little bit of a maybe a basic choice but uh s2000s are great
55:28
very basic choice along that lines i'd say the BMW z4 m roadster or coupe they're not the
55:35
prettiest cars in my opinion but they are a ton of value for the money inline six engine
55:41
instead of the dinky little four in the s2000 so you get more of a proper european experience
55:47
with a nice sound what about all my revs bro it goes to nine or whatever i don't know it sounds
55:53
weird at nine can you get like a z3 m as well for that first yeah oh those are sweet um not a
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clown shoe but you could get an m roadster all day long under 20 grand i remember and clown
56:06
shoes and maybe well maybe not an s54 but you can get an s52 roadster yeah which one's rarer
56:13
um last thing for me very very basic choice but i cannot
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doubt that this is the answer because they're great cars i think you can still get a i don't
56:24
think you can get an s but you can get a 987 Cayman or Boxster for under 25 can't you
56:29
yes still yes you can they're amazing it's Porsche they sound good i yeah i save that for last
56:36
because it's the most basic and it is so basic but it's a lot of car for the money i got two
56:40
more for you Pujo 205 GTI highly regarded as the best hot hatch of the era by all the experts
56:49
that's a great choice under 25 grand and another roadster the r171 Mercedes SLK 55 AMG you have a
56:57
5.4 liter v8 stuffed into a tiny car it's like the modern sunbeam tiger love it and they're
57:05
great looking now if you want to get a custom plate on any of your sub $25,000 cars there it is
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people what you're driving you would be considered having a plate to sample and if we saw your plate
57:19
and wanted to guess your car on the game that's what we do here our sign made for us by a big
57:24
fan of the show Ed Krikowiak i think i may never get that right and the game itself invented
57:30
by and sponsored by solan spine that's run by dr hoover and you can check them out at
57:39
solanspine.com that's like solan ohio tyler you were admittedly weak off your game last week
57:50
i did a bad time guy it was not i don't know what was going on i've had an off day i didn't sleep
57:58
let's see if you can get the ones i got and yeah see how you also gave me some real layups
58:04
last week so i feel like you are poised to just come out and just bury me so what do you got
58:10
i have first one save the e save e save the e save the e
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i'm gonna regret that i i don't have time to go through all the
58:24
car names well doug is thinking doug gets a lot of stuff sent to him over instagram because he's very
58:29
very popular in the internet but if you wanted to send some things to me head on over to switchcast.live
58:34
and there'll be a little button little page to go to to submit me some license plates that you've
58:39
seen on the road or on your own car everything that i say just about everything i say every week
58:44
is from the from the listeners and boy do i have some good ones today so
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ethan has figured this vehicle out because the e it is ethan is my name um
58:55
not i don't know the specific vehicle but it has to be Porsche something right yeah he's
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it's a 911 it's a 992 yeah there you go yeah save the e now come on look at this uh
59:06
save the uh well then i would have given it away dog i'm not trying to just lay him up and
59:10
make it look cool it's too obvious kind of like it's probably 944 isn't it no it's a 992
59:14
with an arrow okay all right that's uh that's fine uh that's i i would have never ever gotten there
59:23
i'm thinking like e-tron i don't know uh this one came via facebook submission north carolina plate
59:32
camry with a question mark on their plate i guess you get question marks so you can get question
59:37
marks camry camry um there is something that is oh no no is this like in a lease or an exige
59:46
no because it's got the end okay um there is something that's in my head that is like
59:51
essentially a camry but i can't remember what it is uh yes dug what is you've got to stop i can't
59:58
what is it toyota chaser see that jdm camry okay i like it i like it yeah i don't remember any of
00:07
those jdm car names though the like chaser the sore the i know the century obviously sore is the sc
00:13
300 okay and then yeah that's all i all i got okay for you dug visceral vi s s s r l
00:26
uh shall be gt 500 super snake he's close it's a gt 350 all right i'm getting there shall be something
00:35
dang it yeah we need a points thing up here a dinger or whatever okay uh by officer
00:43
oh that's got to be like a it's a corvette it's a charger it's a challenger no no it's a mustang
00:49
no for gt no lamborghini no no what is it lexus rc 350 i'm pretty sure the officer can catch up
01:00
that's not on me for not getting that one all right i know this is okay all right uh this is
01:08
actually an ohio plate that i have for you i love it it is sans h p s a n s space h p
01:19
oh i was thinking like no computer like hula packard right no horsepower
01:25
yeah no uh nissan figaro no well there could be a bajillion others this is a really popular
01:33
one though that we that people usually complain is underpowered even though it's a great enthusiast
01:38
car the acura nsx no howdy r8 subaru brz way underpowered i've never heard anyone complain
01:45
about their subaru brz they only proclaim that it's the greatest car ever made because they're
01:51
trying to drown out everybody saying that it is slow as as heck okay i've driven one it was very
01:56
slow it's fun just very slow california plate no surprise here when you hear the plate non musk
02:04
uh mochi no right kind of is it like a lightning is it a bmw i4 okay yeah with an m with an m badge
02:15
on it don't know what that does for an electric car but bigger battery at all uh next up for you
02:23
w or not w goodness i can't read m e e t w g n meet wagon yep uh
02:33
the wiener mobile no i thought you were bringing it back i think i ran out of wiener mobile
02:39
meets wagon mercedes benz e 63 amg wagon i don't know it's a hearse oh that's insensitive
02:54
i love it such a good plate another ohio plate when you go to a singles convention your fresh
03:00
meat and when you go in a hearse you're still dead still no meat depending on how long after
03:09
okay uh this one from erin tulen regular submit er of good plates well okay i don't think it's well
03:19
vi it's spelled w e l l th y well vi but i think it's wealthy oh wealthy wealthy but spelled oddly
03:30
yeah um is this like a genesis g 70 no um wealthy this fits into my stereotype especially of george
03:42
and plates proclaiming their wealth mm so this is like an ultima or something or like a sonata
03:50
or no uh uh afford torus no mercedes benz okay but not like amg oh remember people love
04:00
yes you know up clouding on their base model mercedes this is totally base mode but it's a
04:06
mercedes benz g 550 an older one and just for kicks and giggles not that i need to like a g
04:13
550 is nothing to shake a stick at oh they're great but when you put wealthy on your plate
04:19
you open yourself up to being made fun of so i ran the vin and sure enough it's a triple digit mile
04:26
100 plus thousand mile g wagon uh and it has a lean on it nice so a person financed a super
04:34
high mile g wagon again nothing wrong with either of those things but if you're gonna brag about being
04:39
wealthy from experience in the car industry the only people financing over a hundred thousand
04:46
mile g wagons are financing at a 25 interest rate and and that's not wealth and they're
04:52
trying to posture right we're making fun of people for posturing lest anybody with
04:57
a g wagon or who finances their car get upset yeah if doug really disliked people who financed cars
05:05
we wouldn't be friends um all right doug last one for you first book
05:15
boy that silence was deafening um
05:22
oh duh genesis yes there it is i was i was really hoping you were gonna just like blank
05:29
entirely on that no it's genesis yeah okay uh last one from richard via facebook thank you very much
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much zero spelled out zero the number one zero one zero one
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zero i really need that i just need to have that handy as a sound effect
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oh oh oh it's a generally well or like a charger or something newer it's a 2008 is dodge challenger
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in orange so why do see i got a i got a bone to pick with these people why are all of the new
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things the challengers when it was a charger i know the challengers are two door now and the
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charger that charger then was two door but come on wrong car didn't daisy duke drive a challenger
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like a 71 challenger or something i don't know
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