A lively discussion unfolds as Matty J and guests delve into their car updates, including David Prince's new Magna and its significance in the automotive community. The episode features humorous anecdotes about the Grand Prix, car culture, and the often-overlooked vehicles like the Capri and Nissan Teeter. The group debates the merits of various cars, shares personal stories, and engages in a fun quiz about Grand Prix history, showcasing their automotive knowledge and camaraderie. The episode wraps up with plugs for upcoming car events and a light-hearted banter about car preferences.
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It's been Maddie J in the studio with Mr Alamdeep Singh and online with Mr. David Prince. How are you doing?
Doing very well. Thank you.
I'm good, thank you. Happy to be here.
Good to see you guys. How's your week been?
Let's crack on with updates with yourselves and then updates with your cars. David Prince, Car updates with
you and updates with yourself mate.
Oh, it's been a good, good week. Busy week, Grand Prix week, hot
week, hot on Saturday and then whoring with rain on Sunday.
So that was an interesting, interesting combination of weathers for the people who were the half a million people who were heading out on Sunday to the track.
I wasn't one of them. Free ticket didn't magically
appear in the in the inbox, sadly.
I got offered a ticket for Saturday and I was just like, it's just too hot. I, I just yeah, I.
Don't think it would have been pleasant and it's been so dry in Melbourne for people like for Melbourne listening as well.
Every. It was so dry and dusty and
brown and Yep, Sunday fixed that though power update.
So they've got a couple. I've been sitting on one for a
while that I sort of had to wait until it actually to got my ducks in a row. But are we?
Are we allowed to talk about this update?
Yeah, I I put another car on club plates last week and it wasn't actually a Honda, which. A few people sit.
Make sure you see see that it's not a Honda, guys, just just everybody I know shock and awe and horror and can you yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, wow, it's not a
Honda like this is. In all of the time I've known
you, you've only ever bought Hondas, You've bought VWS, and you've bought I. Had to buy it Suzuki.
'S I. Says, oh, where are you this?
The cultists convert cultists convertible, that is correct.
So that was a while back that like, but apart from that, all I've ever heard from you is Hondas, so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a creature of habit, sadly.
Well, they're good cars, what can I say?
I mean, Dang. It Prince I'll.
Say all sorts of things. It's and it and it this is mine.
You're coming from the the historian of the Honda car Club of Victoria, Mr. David Prince. He is the you know, if he says
that Honda's a good car, it's a good car and and he's he's very one much to know. David, just before you, you talk
about this car, you accolades as a as an individual on this, you know in in the car world is it's quite you've got a rap sheet of quite of. What you.
Say of of a a a resume that many that few would have like you know, it's you've you've been a judge at.
As a motor classic car, yeah. You've done, you've done the the
you drove a scamp from here to Adelaide for the, for the last Grand Prix. You've, you've done many
different things. You're, you know, you're, you're
big in the, in the, in the car club scene and stuff.
So a lot of people don't know how really, you know, involved you are and connected. Like like when I, when I first
got my scamp, I, I said to, said to Chad, he came in one day, you know, you've, you know, I, I, I bought a scam.
He's like, oh, that's, that's sick.
First question he asked, do you know David Prince?
And I'm like, well, yes, I do know David Prince.
So so you are, you are, as I said, you are a bit of an enigma, David Prince, you are, you are one of a kind.
And it's interesting to see you know what you do.
But anyway, sorry to to interrupt but.
You're embarrassed now? No, you should be.
You should be honoured, Dave. Actually, just on that point,
funny thing happened yesterday that made me think, well a bit of that does ring true. I've been in at a luxury car
dealership yesterday where I know the man whose name's on the door pretty well and I've known him for many years and he greeted me like an old friend, which was lovely.
And we had had a bit of a chat. And you know, he told me what an
exciting week they'd had. Of course, because they had
drivers from Aston Martin and Ferrari and everything they were, that they were winning and dining them.
And of course that didn't even, I'm not that well connected that it actually translated to a free ticket or anything like that.
But anyway, but then after that I went to The Wreckers in Spring Vale S in like since in and I walked in the door and the guy behind the counter goes. G'day, how are you today?
Wow. Now, OK, there's a, there's a
bit of a bridge, you know, there's a bit of a bit of a change there. And then I was, I came out, I, I
was actually hunting for a Honda CRZ door trim.
I had a guy ring me yesterday and he said, oh, I've got this really unusual car. And he said the door trim is
damaged. I wonder what I could do.
I said he said, I said, what is it?
He said, oh, so I'm just CIZI said, oh, I know exactly what that is. He said no one knows what they
are. I said, yeah, well, I know it
is. And I happen to know there was
one at this wrecker, but of course he didn't have the part I needed. But anyway.
And then I walked in and then another one of the guys that works there who's actually a member of our car club and has a car and club plates. Such a lovely guy.
He's a Sri Lankan guy. He's about 06 foot two huge and
he'd, he's got a massage's garage on YouTube.
He's he's got a, a channel and he's a very, very good mechanic.
And he, but he had, he'd shaved his head and he and I was talking to the guy behind the counter as I was coming out and this guy just walked up to me and just stood with his arms crossed like right in front of me.
And I, I, I didn't know what was going on.
I thought I'd done something wrong or something, or I was in his way. And I, I, it wasn't till he
smiled, I said, Oh, Saatchi and he gave me a big man hug and oh, it's great to see you, David. I'm Sydney Frazier.
Wow, this is great. It's nice to nice to be at both
ends of the market, shall we say, both ends of the of the car scene. But you see that with that, that
shows you, you, you know, you're across all, you're across all boundaries. Like, like, like and real talk
like I'm not blowing smoke up your backside here.
But like, everybody knows David Prince, you know, whether it be at the Highball Car Club or it'd be, it'd be coming to the records like everyone, it's just David, you know, David Prince, Prince, everyone knows him. So, so you know, it's, it's,
yeah, there's not many people that that are, you know, that well, well known and well connected.
That's very kind of. You think so?
Yeah, it's it is impressive. But so that's.
What partly what doing, having 40 years in the industry will do I suppose too. And the important thing is just
be nice to people along the way. That's that's what people
remember and if they haven't got any beef with you, thankfully I, I don't think too many people have too much of A beef with me.
So that's a good thing. I think you're.
Good beef. I think it would be as much as
lamb. That's it.
I don't think, you know, I don't think it would get any further than that. We're not.
Talking grade 5 YQ hero no. David But anyway, so so you've
got you've got an exciting update.
I do, I do. OK, so put a car on club plates
last week. It's a bit of a story.
I'll keep it, try and keep it brief.
Now listeners to Nick Bolton. Now we'll we'll know of our
friend Andrew Bricklawsworth, who's a good friend of the friend of the show who's a huge Magna fan and single handedly has dragged Magna out of the mire of the daggiest car everybody used in Australia to something that everybody is remembering with quite some fondness.
He's planning an, an event with the help of an in South Australia and Mitsubishi Motors in October celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Magna, which is gaining some, some, some legs, which is really exciting. And I, I actually bought a Magna
brand new in 1993. We had ATR executive waggon,
first new car I'd ever bought actually.
And it was at a time when you could buy VP Commodore or EB Falcon waggon. We needed a waggon.
We, we had two little kids and another one on the way.
So yeah, we needed something. Honda hadn't brought the Odyssey
out yet. Little did I know that that was
going to be the next car or the next three cars.
But now we had a, had a, had a Magna waggon, had a great run out of it. So I'd always said to Andrew,
well, you know I'd like to get a Magna for Magna 40 so but it will probably have to be a TR waggon and I said I was missed out on the V6. I was too cheap to buy the V6.
I spent the money on upgrading the the 14 inch wheels with the hubcaps to the 15 inch alloy wheels, which was nice choice, nice choice, but it was an auto 4 cylinder exec waggon.
So anyway, this one popped up on some Magna page and got shared amongst a, a group of the group of us and someone, oh, Jim Barlow, another friend of the show.
He, he actually commented something along the lines of wow, and it's a manual as well. And you couldn't see the gear
shift. But he'd actually worked out
that it didn't have the auto selector in the in the instrument cluster. So I hadn't even picked that up,
but I thought, oh, it is a manual.
Turned out it was a manual V6. So the V6 became optional in 93
after it was always in the Verada, but it became optional in the exec. And yeah, it was nice colour and
thankfully it was in Mount Gambier because I thought, well, I'm not even going to be tempted because I'm not going to Mount Gambier to look at it. Yeah, it it sort of everyone
forgot about it except Mr Rigglesworth.
It appears he and his wife did a gig over in Adelaide some months later. And he rang me.
He said, oh, I'm going to drop past your place next week.
I've got something, you know, I want to have a look at something in the garage. I said, oh sure, and I have a
coffee. I said, well, don't come all the
way to my place, I'll meet you halfway.
Oh, no, no, I I just want to check something out in the garage. So he turns up.
This is about four or five months after it appeared in this Magna waggon. So it's AV Sticks Manual Exec 93
TR Waggon in Misty Rose, which is a silvery grey with a little bit of pink in it. Actually my friend is super
cheap who mixed the paint for me the other day said that it's it was like 47 parts silver, 10 parts black and about 3 parts scarlet and Marone. So it's just got a hint of red
in it and a really clean original car that was actually bought new in Mount Gambier by a doctor and driven up and down to Adelaide. So it's done about 227 KS.
It's very clean, very straight, very rust free.
So I was presented with a key that said David's key and we're Co parenting it I believe. That's the actual term.
That's awesome. But yeah, so obviously you can't
put in two people's names and because I've organised the club permits for a particular club that I'm associated with, it's easier for me to put it in my name.
So it ends up that it's in my name, but it's it's a shared car. So we've done bits to it, I've
done bits to it, he's done bits to it.
It's just been cosmetic stuff really needs a couple of shockers, which Mr Janine has helped me out with.
So they'll be fitted directly. But yeah, lovely, lovely old
car. And I'm reliving 30 years ago,
me driving around with screaming children in the backside, how much they just screamed. They were angels, complete
angels. So, so David, what did it feel
like when he he rolled up in your driveway?
And then what was your instant reaction?
Did you recognise that was the same car first I.
Recognised it instantly because it still had the South Australian plates on. It.
Oh wow. And the headlight covers, it's
got the 1215 inch wheels with the turbine hubcaps.
So they're all on, you know, in the photos, all on the car.
And I've actually taken it. It's got two small marks in the
body work that I wanted to show a panel veto mate of mine around the corner. His first reaction was what are
you doing in a Magna funny story.
Let me tell you this story. And he when he overcame his
initial revulsion, he went right over it and he said it's actually really good. He said it's all original under
the bonnets really tidy. In fact it's very spacious
because it actually doesn't have air conditioning, never had air conditioning pitted from from the dealership.
So that was interesting because on Sunday after the club plates were finally on it, I was planning to bring it over to your place, but it was actually pouring with rain.
I thought, I haven't driven this car more than about two or three kilometres in until my club plates were on it.
I didn't fancy driving it all the way across the Westgate Bridge in the pouring rain with no air conditioning to demise the windows, no ABS, no ABS, no traction control, which I can tell you that three litre V6 would have benefited from that had been released years later. But but yeah, so it's very
exciting. It's it seems very familiar in a
lot of ways because having had one for four years when we did so it's yeah, nice to be in being 1, still a really attractive looking car, I reckon a really good design.
And of course one of Australia's most successful export programmes with the Mitsubishi Magna waggons that were designed in Australia and exported around the world.
So I think I read that the TRTS series was exported to 19 different countries around the world.
Well, I didn't, I didn't realise that that's that's a lot so.
It it was a a very, very successful manufacturing era for Australia. Was it only known as the Magna
here and in Japan and everywhere else was diamante?
Or was it? Diamante was also Sigma Gallant.
Sigma Gallant, That's right in. Germany, I think in, in the
Netherlands and those sort of countries, some photos popped up of one in the UK or two, one family that had two in the UK and they had photos of them in the UK.
Yeah. But still, you know, a good
quality, well put together. Had a big rattle in it, but
turned out that that was just the exhaust knocking the the tow bar, which you know when you've got 2 metal things like that.
Clunky. Had a new muffler fitted to it
and I think it was fitted a bit too close.
So I've sorted that out now and that big clunk's gone.
But yeah, beautiful. Torquay V6 manual gear shift.
Not the most sophisticated I've got to say I've ever used but.
And it's probably probably needs pushes and stuff done too so.
But that will all get done in time, so.
They're quite a long throw. Very.
Long throw, yeah. I I drove AI drove a magnet like
AT was it first of the next shape was ATM the next shape T.
No T they were the earlier ones, the TE, sorry.
TE sorry TE Yes manual waggon which had just been fully re re sprayed. The guy who?
Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah, a bit of a long throw and he's a 3 1/2 later V6.
So but I'm pretty sure that someone has made a short shift kit or something for it. David Prince That'll, that'll
tidy it up a little bit nicer where?
Yeah, it's not original. It's not original then.
That's exactly right. Yeah.
But yeah, that's. Pretty fun.
It's it's going to be fun and it jolly roll carries it.
In fact, the night I picked it up from Andrew to Andrew's place, I, Mr Bunting helped and he rang me just before I went to pick him up and said oh, I've got to pick up a mirror for a mate tonight and drop it over in North Melbourne.
Can I take the main? It's your train plate, buddy.
I mean, you can, you can do whatever you like.
But yeah, so the minute it got picked up, the seats were down.
He said it just swallowed the mirror up like it wasn't there.
Huge story, huge luggage compartment with the seats down as well. But and a few things that that I
noticed about it, it's actually got the 93 model car, a locally produced car. It's got height adjustable seat
and lumbar support in the trimmer seat which is pretty good. Absolutely.
Intermittent rear wiper as well as but that's that's on the console the the switch that so that dates it a bit.
But yeah, nice old, nice old bus that will be entertaining.
Be keen to see what that's like. So what are the plans for that?
Just actually before we get before we answer that, Robin Scotty have joined us. How are you, gentlemen?
Thank you. How are we?
Good. Thank.
You very good, very good. We're just talking about David's
new Magna. So So what are the plans for it
next and what does it need? And then what's take going to
take to get ready for Magna 40th because like, oh, I'm going to come. I'm excited for that.
Or actually actually before that Sakura picnic with Andrew has actually talked to Toyota and there's going to be a few Magnus there as a sort of Victorian sort of Magna 40th get together.
So it will probably be there, although I'm doing a little bit of travelling next month so it might be a bit tricky.
So basically it just needs a, a really good detail.
Now it's been sitting outside for about a week, so it could do the cut and Polish. There are a few little scratches
that will come off. It had a few little dents,
parking dents and stuff taken out of it.
But yeah, it hasn't needed a lot of.
Oh, we put another aerial in it. The aerial was bent like a map
of Australia. Someone had a good go at that.
But it's got an RNA pillar aerial aerial.
So we replaced that, sorted out the stereo.
Someone had put a, it's actually got a Focal speakers or Focal audio sticker on the window. So someone was saying, oh, Focal
were pretty good actually back in the day.
I mean, that's how long ago it was done, I think to have ACD player. So it's got a Pioneer stereo,
but they butchered the door trims, taken the put big speakers in. They'd taken the map pockets off
so there were holes in the door trims and that, so actually found some map pockets and set the smaller speaker grills on.
So that all fits in nicely now. Yeah.
So there's not a lot to do really.
Andrew's got a mate up in Horsham who's a magnet guru and he'll probably do a timing belt on it and and a couple of seals and stuff just in the interests of longevity.
But yeah, drives fine. Yeah, awesome.
Sort of to say it. I won't have a drive with that.
That'll be that'll be a bit of fun.
I remember they were the same V6 as like those old Hyundai Sonatas that they came with. They came.
With Yeah, yeah. That's a bit of trivia for you.
Yeah, but but the sonatas came with really thin pizza cutters.
So like when like they would talk to you like an absolute pig, like you'd be all over the relay.
It'd be changing lanes under under power.
I remember my uncle was telling me he worked on one years ago.
He's like the thing went like escorted cat, but he's like it just it was like you change lanes on the under power.
But it was, it was always like, yeah, those magnets went well, they went hard, so. I'm going to say the gear ship
doesn't encourage spirit of driving, but sitting on the freeway in fifth it was. It was silky, absolutely silky
and rode beautifully and didn't feel like a 33 year old car at all. Not at all.
That's good, man. So that's your updates, David
Prince. Very good.
Scotty Doe updates with you my friend.
Nothing to do with my cars, but on Saturday I did head over to the Grand Prix. Nice.
Bit of a hot day, but it was better than the Sunday, I guess.
So I did get to see all the cars out on track.
Yeah. I mean, there was just.
I wouldn't say there was any. I mean, there was people
complaining, but I've. I've got no thoughts about it.
It seemed all right. It wasn't overly busy.
Busy, but not overly busy. Yeah.
Had a good time. Got a hat.
Got the normal souvenir magazine that I always get.
Nice. Didn't get sunburnt.
So that's a win. That's a good start, was.
There enough shade did you find? Yeah.
Not really. I mean, there's not too much
shade shade around there because it's kind of there's a golf course. So yeah, it's fairly.
Someone say that there were like triple, quadruple a number of shade sales this year. But yeah, I didn't see much
evidence in the in the footage. No, there's in one of the spots
where we go to, they got a massive like gazebo, which was normal. It was there last year anyway,
so second year of having it. It's right up on top of the
hill, so it's a good spot for it.
V8 supercars were good. I didn't stick around for the
Porsche Carreras. I was.
Going to say they were so loud Oh my God.
Yeah, they always are. Unbelievably loud.
Yeah. Formula 3 is intense.
It's like they're racing straight up for a champion, like for the actual championship, but they're just three side by side and everything. It was unfortunate because
there's quite a few crashes with them, so their time got cut, cut quite a lot. Formula twos, good to see.
Yeah, and then the Formula Ones, so there wasn't, there wasn't too much and normally you got like a a bit of air display, but it was just some roulettes and there wasn't much there.
Yeah, on track could have been a bit better.
They had the 50s racing cars go around.
It was. I saw them.
I saw them on the Thursday. They brought up the historic
cars and it was cool, but yeah, they weren't really driving them. Yeah, no.
They just gave it, you know, just a little bit.
It was like walking pace pretty much.
So they just opened up a little bit of a couple of ribs or something at least. But yeah, maybe a bit more on
track stuff. I'm glad they got rid of that
speed comparison thing. I mean, you can't keep doing
that every year. Come on, it's just the same
thing over and over again. I never really liked that that
much. Supposedly that two seater
Formula One car wasn't available so they were taking rich people around in a GT3 car but it crashed.
Oops. So there was nothing, none of
that. So we didn't see any of that.
I think it happened on the Friday or something that was crashing out. Is David trying to talk?
Sorry, I was just. Oh, there we go.
I was just going to say the two set of Formula One car like, you know, did they have another booking?
Was it were they Ubering? Were they, you know, like what
were they doing? I mean, it's the Formula One
race. They should have had it there.
Yeah, I, I'm not sure if it was just broken down or, or what was going on with that one. Yeah, it was interesting.
And then I guess on a on a Sunday, I watched it at home.
The race pretty good, had some funny moments.
I think Leclerc has the funniest moment, the best comment ever going around. Thank you Ferrari for that one.
Hamilton was getting frustrated as well.
But yeah, if anyone doesn't know it was he asked them if there was a leak. Leak, yeah.
In the car and they said, oh, what is it?
And he goes, oh, it's like, it's a big puddle, big puddle of water or something. And then they replied back, oh,
it's the water. It's like, yeah, it's like a
big, it's a big puddle of water in here.
Oh, it's the water. So it's been put down as the
best meme so far. And then they just kept
spothering Hamilton saying, you know, you can use K1, which which is there qualifying pace. And he just kept saying leave me
alone, I know what I'm doing pretty much.
And they just kept saying it. It's like, I know, I know I can
use it, but I'm not close enough.
So yeah, some frustrations there.
Unfortunately, the Australian curse hits again.
PS3 was was right up there but the rain just caught him out.
Very. What I think is a real shame is
that not much was made of his like getting back on the track and getting up into 9th place or 8th place, 9th.
He got into the points, yeah. Yeah, he got into the points,
Yeah. And the way he overtook, yeah,
one of the best overtakes, yeah, at which they showed that live, but they're too busy, obviously, with the finish, yeah.
Lace. Up the front of the pack, but.
I reckon that's pretty. Yeah, it was awesome.
Bit of driving to to and and yeah, I didn't know they had reversed, but he reversed off that grass back onto the track.
Yeah, he thanked Jeremy Clarkson because in the offseason he went to park at his farm and drove quite a lot of tractors on a reversing. Practise.
So yeah, I didn't hear that. That's yeah.
He was thanking them for that one.
So you have to, yeah, to be able to drive it like that in reverse and get get off that really slippery, slippery grass.
Unfortunate with that one. Mention it on the ribs limiter.
Yeah, exactly. It would have been crazy more.
Ribs. More ribs.
There was an incident with the with the VH supercars when we were watching that one. Asimini's tie was rubbing really
badly right on the last lap and he's holding off 2 two other cars right behind him and honestly, it looked like if there was another lap his tie was going to blow or something.
It was it was bad, but he actually held them off through the chicanes and everything and one overtook him.
But he actually got that position back somehow to to finish. I can't remember what he
finished, but it was right out there.
It was good for the podium. It was on the podium, but that
was awesome to see. That was really close.
So, you know, the Supercars still got some pretty good races. Absolutely.
I think the Sprint races is, is where it's at for them, yeah, because it's just really close, really competitive.
You know, they're going three wide into corners and things like that. So that's where it's at.
They're not easy cars to drive either.
Like like they don't really have much downforce like like they're actually they're, they're a bit of a peak drive from from what from all accounts. I remember I went to the year
mark, we knew what him on his first Bathurst they were doing, they were doing a parade around all the different Ford dealerships and yeah, I had the day off.
So I went in to to the dealership.
He was out and like there's all people there, you know, asking questions and, you know, just members, anyone could go there and they're like like that, you know, how are they to drive?
He's like, they're honestly very hard to drive.
Like they're yeah, they're the gearboxes key.
Like if you change the gear, you know, too hard, it'll kick the back end out. And, you know, it's, he's like,
they're a bit of a, they're a bit of a peak to drive, but yeah. And a lot, a lot of people, you
know, that that, that drive, they always say, yeah, these aren't an easy car to drive. So I've got a lot of respect
for, for the, the supercars. It's yeah, they're they're
impressive. Watching them because we're
coming near one of the straights and they just come around the bend a bit and watching them getting that grip and actually sliding out to the wall, it's just insane to watch just non stop sliding it right out to the wall.
I'm talking like, you know, like.
Millimetres. From it to hook around that
corner nicely, it was just phenomenal to see for them to handle it like that on the edge of the grip.
They go good, but they always smell good.
The E85. Let's see.
You can smell it. You can smell it.
I like the formula ones because, you know, they got the tray underneath. Yeah, so you've got the spark
coming up and you get that burnt metal smell.
I like that. I like that smell as well.
So, good weekend all in ahead then.
Yeah, it was good. It was a good weekend.
It's good. Rob updates with you my friend.
Disappointed there's no celebrity race on anymore.
We've. Got no celebrities anymore?
Yeah, true. So that was a bit disappointing.
That was always fun. I used to watch that, yeah.
There hasn't been one since I think it was about 2014, 2015, someone crashed and I think got a broken pelvis out of it.
And I think, I think the insurers said, yeah, no, we're not doing that anymore. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I remember the one that Ed was saying.
What was it, Ed, that he was deliberately breaking Ed Peter Helly was deliberately breaking gearboxes.
Well, and it's just like, yeah, try, try to be funny.
I'm like that's. Not funny.
That's not funny, mate. Sorry.
No, no one. No one's found that funny at
all. Yeah, so then I suppose I didn't
go to the Grand Prix. I watched it on TV, but there's
a lot of other things happening. The Mercedes concourse was on it
rained that much and I and my window leaks on the left hand side if you want water leaking in the oil pan.
So I decided not to take my car. But then I felt bad.
There's people taking their $1,000,000 plus skull with gold wings there and other cars in rain in the mud on the farm, pride farm and. Here's Rob not taking his.
Car seriously not taking my, you know, you know, whatever $10,000 Mercedes. So that yeah, I probably should
have taken it, but anyway, I didn't because it would have been the only W 112 there that weekend.
OK, there's a lot of W11 ones but not the the tooth.
Yours. That's the coupe.
Yeah. The big coupe.
The big old coupe. Yeah.
Yeah. So that's not a $10,000 car,
Rob, don't don't understand. It's it's it's a very nice car.
Thank you very much. Comparatively.
Comparatively, yes. To a goal wing?
Absolutely. So I should have taken it, but I
didn't. So I bet it was cold, wet,
freezing. I spoke, spoke to the guys at
Liquid Molly and bought some fuel saver stuff, put in the the fuel tank, grabbed a whole lot of key rings and stickers and stuff like that. So we did that.
A mate of mine went to the there's a all Ford sort of GT day at Shepparton or something. So he was.
He reckons there's more GTS out there than what they actually made. Yeah, that's been the joke for
quite a while. It was 1600.
It kind of left the factory and there's only 14 1/2 thousand left. Yeah.
You went to that. What else do we do?
I don't don't know. Car wise, there's something else
I did. What did?
I've been trying to chase up Ford for my Transit.
Well, they still got it. They still got it two months
now. What are they doing to it?
I don't know. They, they probably can't source
a diff from Turkey. I don't know.
And so you and they keep on brushing me off.
They say we'll call you, we'll call you, we'll call you.
They haven't called me for over 2 1/2 weeks now.
I called them today. They said they'll call me back.
They didn't call me back. So it's been pretty
disappointing. Have you got a loan car?
I've got a loan car but I can't do the same things with the loan car that I do that I do with the van in that it hasn't got a tow bar. It's a short wheelbase.
Yeah, you. Only have to do 300 kilometres a
day on it, but not that I do more than that.
But regardless, you sort of limited in what you can do with it. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not good enough. That's not.
So I, I, I don't know, maybe I should go down there and jump up and down on Friday and, and demand some action or something or some sort of compensation, I don't know.
Is it the? Is this the dealership you
bought it from? No, it's not, but it's Knox
Ford. I got it from me who are good,
but but even then when it broke down the first time I had it, the first week I got it, it broke down.
It was there for six weeks. Wow.
OK, so you know, fixing whatever the engine light was.
They never really told me what the problem really was that they fixed, but it was there for a long time before it did get fixed. That's poor.
That's really poor. Out of the year and a half I've
had it, it's been in the dealerships for about 3 months now. Yeah.
Yeah, not good enough. Yeah, so, but anyway, you'd move
on onward and upward. I might just do it up and maybe
flog it off. Yeah.
Give yourself a Mercedes. That's that's not much of A how
would you explain that? I love that's not really not
much of an. Upgrade.
We have a printer van at work. And how do you find a melon?
It goes the right except for when it tries to do crosswind control, you know, you crap your pants.
But apart from that, it's been, it's ours has been all right.
Yeah. I think the main issue we face
is our windscreen washer pump that kind of went out and that was under warranty. But from that we haven't had any
big, big issues at all. How many K's that done?
I think it's reaching 85,000. Yeah, I think that's 2020 2 or
2021. And how many you want.
Rob 6 That's 6. 1000 KS Yeah, wow and.
What and the diff was going at 6000 KS.
Well, diff was always noisy and everyone kept on saying geez, your car's noisy. I go, yeah, that's just Ford.
When I took the separation wall between the the cabin and the and the back off and started insulating it, it got even noisier and it just didn't go away.
It was actually I think it was getting worse.
So I said no, enough's enough. Yeah.
I'll put up with it. That's bad.
Far out. I'm, I'm sorry that you're
having such a bad time with that, that that's, that's shocking. Yeah, it's just a car.
I'm used to it. It's Ford.
You expect it when you buy a Ford.
Yeah, yeah, but you shouldn't. That's the thing, Rob.
You shouldn't, you know. A love, hate relationship or
hate love? Yeah.
But see like you've bought you've, you've accessed 6 turbo that's been pretty good and then you bought your you must say no.
Well, besides the first one that we won't talk about that one.
Yeah, big flop, wasn't it? Even the blue one, Touchwood, it
has been good. It's had a minor rattle in the
front instrument cluster, but most of them had that and that's a standard Ford feature. Oh, feature, Yeah.
Yeah, that that little bit of a rattle and instrument cluster, but you know, only certain reps And then because I've got the the exhaust system on mine, there's this real bad resonance vibration through the back quarter panel in the quarter panel. It must be it just resonates
bad. So I've got to pull the seats
out and all the trim out and try to insulated out.
Business. But apart from that, it's the
cars, yeah, OK. What about your, your XR50, Did
you have any issues with that or was that was that pretty good?
That that's been good the the XR 50s never had a problem.
Never. Nothing.
At all. So, you know, apart from yeah, I
mean the the normal FG Falcon fitment and finish wasn't.
Was it was never great. But you know that that's just
the way it was back then. It rode a little bit in the
front left hand guard and the the trim didn't fit properly in some places. But you know, All in all, it's
it's, it was a great all round car.
And when you look back at it, you know about $40,000 car.
Yeah, Yeah. And what you get from it, it's.
Pretty good. Is bloody excellent, isn't it?
Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah.
I mean, you can't get a car with that sort of performance for 40 grand anymore, can you? No.
Nowhere near, nowhere near it. Yeah, yeah.
So still trying to push Harley's car to get that finished and the boots being painted, the bumper bars being painted, the roof rail still need doing for we're trying to get into out to highball cows and coffee on the weekend.
So the E36 AMG hopefully will be finished.
I've got to. I'll chase him up tomorrow to
see if he's done it. Yeah.
Otherwise, there's some stern words to be said.
But yeah, that's that's about it with the cars, nothing else.
Alan. I'll start with the Honda Jazz
because. Still here today.
Yes. So my parents came back on
Sunday after about two months overseas.
They've claimed the car back. So we, yeah, our fuel
consumption experiment has it concluded.
So when I packed it up on Friday after work, I think I was showing 6 KS left in the range. Well, yeah, yeah.
And then you made him fill the car up.
No, no, no, I'm not that bad of a sunk and this was all on E10 from a United pump near work, so I wasn't expecting great things, but here we were. It was allegedly showing the
best fuel economy I'd had so far.
How many KS did you get? 588 I think it was a 500.
How big is the tank? 40 litres and I still had,
that's amazing. I still had five litres in the
tank. It's not bad.
So as I'm driving down the hill I'm I think I'm about 2 kilometres away from the pump. I went to 711 again and I'll get
the mobile fuel because I've got a good discount.
The I think I was about two K's away from the pump and as I'm driving, like the ranges just dropping more and more like, yeah, by the time I get to the pump, the range is at 0.
I'm like, hey, you said 6K, This hasn't been 6K's.
But yeah, you know, I get to the pump the the bars that I think you get 20 bars on the little fuel gauge, all 20 were gone.
So it wasn't even like I'm on one bar completely on empty.
But like I said, you carve a little faith.
Yeah, I still had nearly 100K's on the tank.
Yeah, if you had five legs, yeah.
If the math is to be maths. So once I filled it up, I did
the calculation because the car was indicating 5.9.
I saw that the indication is always a little worse than the actual, but it came back to about 6-6 litres per hundred KS.
Good. Yeah.
And that's on E10. So mobiles fuel economy fuel got
me 6.4. I think it was 6.3.
Rubish. Yeah, so here I am on E10 doing
better. Explain yourself 7-11 Explain
yourself Mobile I want Mr Mobile to call me and I'd like to have a conversation about this. Mr Mobile, if you're listening.
Yeah, there's some false advertising right here.
Give us a buzz on now. What's what's, what's the phone
number? 930-4498 Nine.
Yeah, give us a score. Give us an SMS on the O
44777798. 9. You know, I'll try and check it
in the in the tech room later on because the ASM service isn't working at the moment, but I'll get to it.
I'll get to it. I think there's just I roll
because we can obviously scientifically test this.
I did my best with keeping a regular commute back in from work, a couple of trips to the radio station here and there.
I think it was pretty comparable.
The biggest driver is probably just the air conditioning, having that on or off. But I would love to, like I
said, do an experiment where we get to like pumps that are basically right next to each other, do run up the Hume, do run back and just kind of compare fuel economy.
That'd be an awesome cartel experiment.
Yeah, we should definitely look at doing that on the holidays.
So right now as it stands, I don't believe Mobil's claims that it's their most fuel efficient fuel ever.
I think it's just marketing puffery at best big word.
I think that'll be that'll be their use in court as they know is puffery and puffery is legal. It's not false advertising
they'll. Be like well, was the car ready
at optimal temperature? Was the.
Car this you know. All the different brands and BP
shell and then put a, you know, sort of head to head comparison.
Yeah, we'll do a head to head. We'll do that and you know,
patrons sponsor that stuff. Give us some cash.
Upset. Upset or, you know, consumer
affairs. Victoria will take that too.
Yeah, absolutely. So that, you know, it was a good
conclusion to experiment. I think, you know, just goes to
show better things like, you know, your air conditioning or just general driving habits, trying to avoid traffic in the morning. They're probably going to beat
you every single time. Any kind of increase in fuel.
I was thinking to put 98 in it just as a goof.
But obviously since the experiment had to end, that's where I had to leave it. Now I I need you to save
judgement because the second story.
OK, so so the D Max is at 36 or 37,000 KS and I haven't owned, you know, a big old 4 wheel drive slash Ute before.
And I expected the tyres to go quicker than, you know, a sedan would, but not that quick. I think already.
So we're at work yesterday and we see something on the inner front driver side tyre. So maybe there was a bit of
string on it or something. One of the boys gets in like
that's not string, but that's why.
What? Yeah, yeah.
So save judgement like he was not driven on Unrod with tyres cast the first, you know, stone stone.
I've heard though, is it? Is it D Max?
Is the kind of alignment issue in the front end?
Is that is that? Because it's usually occurs when
you've done like a. Like a lift.
Yeah, lift or a front bar or something and mine's completely stock. So I'm here.
I'm a little worried. I asked one of the boys I'm
like, so would you drive on this?
And he's like, no, I wouldn't drive on this.
And the the boys that were in question where Ty fit is.
So, you know, if I'm going to take anyone's advice, I'll probably take a tyre for this advice.
So I left the the. Knee in the tyre, yeah.
Well, they they couldn't sell me try because I can't fit a tractor on. So I, I, you know, I thought,
you know, I'll just leave the DMX at work.
We all had a brain fart. I didn't take one of the work
cars home. I should just take the work DMX
and whenever like what happened to the car.
I was like, you tell me. I went with the DMX came back,
but I just had one of the boys drop me off and pick me up in the morning. There was an.
XR8 that you could have used. Yeah, there was, there was a
should have done. That it's got brand new, it's
got brand new tyres in. It yeah.
In that afternoon I went to one of the nearby tyre shops, expect out some tyres. I initially we're just going to
get duelers again, but I said look, I'm I'm all ears if you got advice. And he said get the Falcon Wall
peaks and he said they're an all terrain tyre, which I was, you know, not too keen on because I know they're not much train so they're not going to go. But I was still hesitant about
the road noise. He said no Rd Rd noise is
probably the same as duelers, but in terms of longevity, you'll probably get 30% more life out of them.
Well, you know, if that's, that's the sales pitch, I'll take it. I think it's only $10 difference
per tyre. And I was with one of the tyre
boys and he's like, look, all right, all right, the Falcons, the wild pigs, they're pretty good.
And I was like, all right, book me in and look at an Eddy.
And I came back obviously today dropped off at 2:00 and I said can do the alignment as well. I've got the alignment sheet
sitting in the car and from what the boys said at work, they're like, your toe is out, which is why it's worn the way it's worn.
Like it wasn't wired all the way around.
It was just in that strip strip. So technically, you know, I
wasn't that bad. I was bad, but I wasn't that
bad, that bad. Yeah.
It just kind of really blindsided me because I guess reaching in that far to kind of feel that bit of the tyre and just wherever as I parked at home, I never really had the chance to see that. I probably would have gotten
onto a cricket otherwise. I'm just glad I didn't, you
know, get too far. So I think all of the damage was
12195 dollars. That's not too bad.
Yeah, for 265 sixties. And I said to the boys, I'm like
if I go there and it starts going, oh, as I'm going home, I'm coming straight back. Like put the dealers on, I don't
care. But the road noise is the same,
which you know, I'm happy about. Like I can tolerate the maybe
lacking fuel economy or whatever I'm going to get from the old trains. I'm not tolerating the extra Rd
noise for now. It could be like, you know, I
can go off roads sometimes. You've got you've got 4B
official wheel. Yeah, you've got the, I've got
the old trains now. I can now just need the lift kit
and move on from there. But I won't do that.
Was it how I want to spend my Tuesday, you know, spending a whole paycheck on tyres? Probably not.
But you know, I'm better for it, I think.
And the fact that it's the car's in full alignment again that makes me. That helps.
Yeah. So yeah, I'll, I think it's the
service is due in the end of July.
They can't try and sell me tyres this time.
I'm like. Maybe they're fresh.
They're fresh. Use mate.
Yeah. So overall a bit of a funny
experience. Like I said, when you pride
yourself from being a car guy, you probably don't want to at least unintentionally have your tyres get into the the wire.
But happens from time to time. It is what it is.
Very good. Yeah, so that's my my car
updates. So that's with me.
I had a bit of a busy week with cars, so laser was due for a service. So I got that serviced.
I always just sat there and I'm sick of my handbrake not working because I know like they were never good on lasers anyway, That's you know, but but mine's just shockingly bad.
And so Ryan was like, I'll, you know, I'll, I'll fix it for you.
I was like, I want to come to the station, do handbrake turns like somebody was doing the other the.
Other night partially like I, I, I leave my car in gear anyway, which is fine, but the last time my sister drove it, she borrowed it for a little bit while I was using the forest that I go to SA and she called me. She's like, your car went down
the street and then it ran into another car.
This is I probably, I didn't mention this earlier.
And I'm like, thanks, Clara. So that's, that's that's really
nice. She's like, yeah.
Hang on, hang on. Did you mention to her about the
handbrake and leaving it in gear before you left it?
With her, no I did not. Yeah.
Look, but I assume she'd leave it in manual car in gear.
I don't leave my cars in gear. Actually, no.
I used to leave the Amex 5 and gear because it was on an incline. It was on a flat, yeah.
I just prefer to just use Handbrake.
So it was only like a little thing.
She's like went into the car in front.
No damage was done. But you know, she's like your
handbrake doesn't work. I'm like, yeah, I know I have.
I have a working handbrake now, which is nice.
So I'm, yeah, it's, I'm savouring how low it is and how, how you know, tight it is. So that's that's good.
It's before Matt snaps. The handbrake cable just played
too much. We did that to Jake's car.
Went to the Avalon. No, to the when he bought his
Commodore, I think like one like the first couple of days until he just snapped the handbrake game and the guy was like, I don't know if that's a warranty. And he's like, well, look, I
text like I'm not the strongest guy around, man.
Like I just pulled it like an overly wood.
It was, yeah. It just, it just went yeah.
See, I got the laser service, everything's all good there.
Checked out my Scamp and you know the person that's doing the roadworthy was originally saying no it's fine, the exhaust is fine. But now once the exhaust looked
at and done, I've got the got the scamp taken by a tow truck to the exhaust place. They looked at it on the truck.
They said no, send it back. We don't want to touch it.
So they sent it straight back. And I'm like, I just, I just
want it done at this point. So I'm a little bit frustrated.
I'm not going to lie right now was using language that I've never heard him use before, which was quite interesting as he was not happy with what they said.
So we're figuring out another thing we can do.
I might try and find a different, you know, roadway guy to just pass it at this point because I'm kind of needed out of I need it in my name. So there's that Pam and Steph's
lasers going in tomorrow to get the air con fixed because I decided to stop working a couple weeks ago and the forest is going on Thursday to get its Cam angle sensors done.
So that's finally going. I've ordered the parts already.
I just got to go get done then all the cars should be a OK which would be nice. So service months is turning to
service quarter. Quarter, correct.
Yeah, pretty much. So yeah, that is that is pretty
much what is on my end. Now we're mentioning earlier in
the show Magna 40th which is coming up.
So what we've got to get, we've got to get Mr Rigglesworth on the show to, you know, to really spruke it and and give it, give it a big, you know, this is what's happening because like, I'm going to go, David, you're going like boys.
I hope hopefully you guys can, can come along.
That'd be, it'd be really good to have you guys there.
It's in October, which would be really, really good to have you guys there. So, but I was thinking because
the magnet is such an unloved car by by most people, what other cars do you reckon have got a followings that are so unloved that only like certain certain people have because like, because like they did, they did make jokes on Top Gear about the Morris Marina Club, but they do exist, you know, like, and it's and it's and it's a thing where people, you know, they've gotten, you know, an enthusiast for that like, but like, I've never heard of the Nissan Teeter club or I've never heard of the, you know. The dissent teeter you.
Know what I mean? Right.
There's, there's, and there'd be people like love this.
Like give us your mind. No, I don't want to give a
remind. Come on, please find my.
There any people out there that love their teeters and that's that's cool that's. A lot.
Nobody loves their teeter. I don't think I've met anyone
that's actually loved their. Teeters.
And now that you bought a teeter, you just get given one and you're like, I need a car. And so we're like, I've got this
teeter and you're like, I guess I'll take it.
Can I actually, I want to, I want to debate your claim because I know a guy with a TR Magna V6 auto in in that like burgundy colour. They came in and he had that
yes, he had a sense new and it wasn't an exec.
It was one up because I had electrics SA nice car and he bought that new because he was a very frugal man.
This guy like he'd he'd rent all the cars with the with the with AV6 or the six on that had them. They used the least fuel.
He went and bought a Magna and he was that kind of guy.
Anyway, he upgraded that to Anderson Tita.
So he bought. Brand new by the.
Way, hang on here. First of all, this guy who's
frugal bought AV 6. He one of the most powerful, he
one of the most fuel efficient V6 at the OR 600 engine at the time and I believe that was the Magner in in comparison tests anyway. Look, you're not painting the
smartest picture is what I'm saying.
Well, this man worked for IBM, so he he was quite smart.
Oh, you can't. No, you can be very book smart.
I mean absolute moron in other facets of life.
And I'm not going to say this person's moron.
I'm just saying you're not painting a good picture, a good picture or a car. I'm not, I'm painting a I'm
painting a Picasso, not a, not a Renoir or something.
Yeah. So he went and bought a Nissan
Tina brand new because he was the most fuel efficient car for his needs with four seats. It was the most gutless rubbish
carpet. But he but he was the enigma.
He loved that car for that reason, but anyway, and then he.
Convinced himself that he loved the car because otherwise he'd have to sell it and lose money. Well.
Here's the thing, right, he, he, because he would drive that car and the fuel economy would be like under under 8 litres, under 7 litres when he when he'd drive, right, his wife and his daughter would drive it and then he'd go, they'd go like to 9 and 10 and he would crack it with him.
He's like, you're not driving the car right.
You got to drive it to the more I remember sitting there feeling awkward I'm like, Oh my God, he's complaining of A1 litre of fuel like it's but anyway, so yeah, the the Nissan Tina club, but. Is if that guy's the head of the
club, I don't want to be part of the club, that's what.
I'd say, oh jeez, the Nissan Tina Club, we should start that.
See, now we're going to get a letter from some kind of weird, obscure Nissan Tina club. They're like, how dare you?
You slandered us. We're not all like this.
It's just Jeffrey, you know I. Know two people, own them, and
they're both. See, it's it's there.
Yeah. OK, to be fair, these are some
people. These are the same people that
would say oh he's weird for liking lasers so that's fine.
To be fair, one year old lady and it's it's like sitting in an armchair and the car basically drives themselves.
Oh yes. Which is a worry.
And the other was AP plater and and I was actually charged with finding my car. And that was at a dealership
that I trust. And it fitted their budget and
it had six airbags whereas everything else had none or two.
And they were keen to have airbags And it had Locais and had full history. And as long as they once they
put Apple CarPlay in it, she was happy as anything and loves it.
So she's not a car person. So to her first car that was
that was transport. And yeah, when I said, well, you
could have a look at this one and she just loved it.
So there you go. Did you tell her it's OK to be
wrong? Has had she experienced many
other cars? That's that's.
You know, she'd driven a, she actually had driven her mum's Kia Rio. So that's what she did a lot of
lessons on and I actually encouraged her mum to buy another car and give her the Rio.
She said your mum, I said give her the Rio.
She knows that good car safety, total safety kit she needs and the mum wasn't in a position she she said doesn't suit me right now for everything. I'd rather her have her own car
and not like just get her, get this one.
So anyway, it all worked out. So she's the fate?
What? You say of the Nissan Tina club.
She could be the founding member.
My mate's mum's 91 years old and she's still driving the theatre every day. There you go. 91.
Yeah, there you go. So so maybe that's maybe that's
the the club. They're all like either really
young first car owners or like a last car owner.
Have you driven one man? I've been in one and and it
wasn't really, it wasn't it felt it felt like genuinely, it felt like a cheap car and it felt which is fine because they were never expensive, but it the like it just didn't feel like a nice Nissan product. Like I've been in other Nissan
products and I was like, this is a Nissan.
Like what? I think were all the taters we
got UK built. I think they might have been
like they're based off Renault stuff anyway, so they showed a lot of Renault bits and pieces. So they weren't yeah the best of
things. But like yeah, they seem to be
semi reliable. So we're not picking on this in
taters. Yes, we are.
Are we OK? We are so getting back to it
before we. Who's getting picked on next,
buddy? OK, well, so this.
Is this car bullying talk? So the Magna's officially
getting some love after like, let's be honest, 38 years of of constant berate, you know? 40 next month.
Yeah, 40 next month, correct. So it's it's getting some love.
You know, Andrew was worth a single handedly on his own back bringing Magna's back in the famous words of Justin Timberlake, bringing sexy back, he's bringing Magnus back.
And so they are, you know, they're cool again, like they're kind of retro cool. But they've hit that point now
where like, I've never thought Magnus could be retro cool.
And the way the way Andrew's brought back and, and his willingness to, to, to push the Magnus is, is, you know, it's really endearing. And I've got a lot of respect
for him. Like there's not many, there's
not not many people that do it like that, that care about Magnus that much. And, and he's one of them.
And he's, he's got like, you know, Brazilian now, but that's, that's beside the point. But the point is he's, he's
brought him back and put him into the, you know, back into the forefront of like, you know, actually this, these were a good car. These, these, yeah, they had
their faults like, like every car.
But like, they're, you know, they're predominantly a good thing. So what other cars do you think
deserve a you know, like kind of like a like a resurgence, like a comeback, like a, you know, a 50th or a 40th anniversary Because like, because there are some cars that really genuinely like, you know, deserve it, but nobody really talks about.
So I'm going to leave it in your couple of hands, Rob, you had one straight away. I think the.
Capri. The Capri Sorry, which?
Which generation? Which generation?
Yeah, these are the late I'm. Talking about the the flop of a
Capri that they built that was supposed to be like a Mazda but never ended up like a Mazda. Yeah, it was, it was.
It was an MX5 competitor I believe at the time.
Yeah, well, the Internet too well did it.
No, Can I just say, though it sold well over over in America, it didn't sell too bad as a, as a, as a Mercury Capri shriek.
Yeah, Mercury, yeah, sure. Yeah, again.
Again, it's one of those cars and it was a bit like the magnet in that the first ones, you know, getting used to building convertibles, it was the first time a factory convertible had been built in Australia for many, many years.
You know, roof leaks and things like that.
Well, any, any soft top car has a propensity to that anyway.
Some were better than others, but by the time, you know, early 90s, I think they came out about 89, didn't they?
The first one, Yeah, about about 92.
The sort of updated ones, the XR Twos, they were actually pretty good cars, you know, they'd worked all the bugs out the roofs, fitted property and stuff.
And they were, they were nice little little jiggers, really.
They're actually quite good to drive.
Like genuinely, have you guys ever driven a Capri?
Yeah, yeah, they they don't drive better Like it's based on laser mechanicals like, you know, and lasers are, you know, pretty good to drive. It's, it's, it felt like to
drive like like a Ford laser, which is what it's based on.
I've always wanted. To we had one in the on the Gold
Coast for a day when Anset had mystery flights Now I'm showing my age so anset flew flew us on a $50 mystery flight to the Gold Coast OK and I I actually had an unit through the car trade.
I had an unit Anset. The girl who actually allocated
the mystery flights was the the partner of a friend of mine, and she put us on the earliest flight to the Gold Coast and the last one home that day. So I teed up a Capri at the to
pick up at the airport. So for our fifth anniversary, we
drove a Capri up and down the the Gold Coast was very good.
Was it a? Was it a turbo?
No, no. Was it just a manual?
Manual, yeah. Yeah, the rental cars would have
been turbos, I'm sure. But like the later ones, like
the club Sprint capris and stuff, they were they were quite a good thing, like genuinely a good car.
So yeah, there isn't there isn't much love for capris to be even at small Ford Sunday. Like like every year, every year
that I've been the there's older Caprisa, yes, but like the newer laser based capris, not really like you might see one.
So yeah, they yeah, it's I think, I think I'm with you on that one. I think, I think, I think they
deserve a comeback. Do they?
I don't know. What do you mean do?
They so when I was in Tasmania for work, one of the one of my Co workers there, I spoke to him on the phone many times, met him in person and he's like he's like, what else do you like?
I'm like, oh, I like cars. He's like, oh, I got a sports
cars like yeah, he's like yeah, I got a Ford Capri, just like, you know, you look like a Quintu Sergio Caprio and everything like the beast. I don't hate other guy.
He's a lovely gentleman, but you know, it's it's just I don't doubt for a second there's probably a club of people that, you know, they have the capris and they think that the bee's knees and you know, they could definitely hold go toe to toe with the MX5 and all sorts of things.
But you like what you like. I'm gonna, I'll say that.
But putting putting it out there like Lotus did it with the Elan that became a front wheel drive, you know, car convertible and I think the capris is a bit more reliable and you know, it's I can like I I wanted one as a kid, like I thought that was so cool, like, you know, convertible little, you know, little nugget and then. You grew up and then you're
like, no. So right now would you take a
Capri or an MX5? What did?
You. Yeah.
There we go, Maddie. There's your answer.
Good question. You can't do that.
They're they're, they're different.
Because it's car bullying tool and I'll be doing the bullying here. You know, I'm daggy enough.
I'll I'll put my hand up. I would go Capri Verdi which was
the limited edition in the in the Everglade Metallic, nice colour or a marine. Blue.
Is that that crap? That crap green right there.
No, it's a sadly darker 1. So like dark it's.
Like a reef green naked Everglade was a was a really nice colour. Very popular on Falcons and
Fairmont and surfed Fairline as well.
Or marine blue XR2 manual. I would I would have went a late
club Sprint Capri over in an early MX5.
I'll tell you why you're getting a turbo or if you could choose a turbo engine, blue leather interior, which is which is something you had on yours and you know, and it's got like a cool little tonner kind of piece of like fibreglass like that that covered the backseat. So it looked like A2 seater all.
Wheel drive on one of those. No, the lasers got all wheel
drive. Not the not the capris.
No, they never got a wheel drive for.
Some reason I thought there wasn't all wheel drive version that came out there. Probably was the.
Project where? There you go, find a four wheel
drive laser and spot the drive trainer.
You'd be. You'd be.
That exactly did. Work for you?
Now, just so we're clear, the Ford Capri Turbo made 100 kilowatts. Yeah, I don't think the NA MX5
engine was much behind that it. Was like 80 something.
Yeah, it wasn't really that much.
It's actually based on the same engine.
It's it's still a basic engine. You would really take the Capri.
I'd take I'd take a club Sprint Capri because it's like Tikford and it was cool and it was and it's rare it is cool.
Rare it could rare that. They made a Brazilian MX fives.
And they made a Brazilian because people wanted them.
For a good reason, yeah. But the The funny thing about
Caprese was that every car that went to America had an airbag fitted. Correct.
Yes. And not not one car sold in
Australia had an airbag fitted. Not even in the later cars.
They had the even they barely disguised it.
They had the four spoke steering wheel in the later cars and everything but no airbag. You know there is one in
Australia. It's at the Geelong Auto Museum
and it's a, it's a Mercury Capri.
It's like a left hand Dr Capri with the airbag in it.
It's it's like it was like Ford's car and it was never used. It's got like 0K's on it.
I'm. Going to suggest maybe it's
speaker all the time. It didn't, actually.
It didn't. It didn't make.
It back, Yeah, it all came out of Broadmeadows.
They did, yeah. I'm with you, Rob.
I think I think the the the the Capri club that like the new school Capri should should be because like now, so.
It'd be great place to just bully all the people in one spot. I think that's correct.
Get all together. We'll put it this way, Ford has
released a new Capri and they got absolutely canned because I made it into a crossover. They brought the name Capri name
back as a crossover and and now they're kind of like they're kind of wanting to take it back so.
Look at the Puma. Yeah, let's skip over that.
What other ones, guys? So, so Rob's bringing the Capri
back. He's so we need to have a, we
need to have like a 40th for the Capri.
What about you, Scotty Doe? It's funny because I've been
meaning to post this in our chat but I keep forgetting The other night would have been a couple of weeks ago now.
There was just a basic I guess bommy looking Ford in front of me and it was waggon. It just looks like you know how
when they use them as as a tradey kind of car and they Chuck everything bit. Of paint dribbling down the
back. Yeah, and it just sounds like
it's got, you know, there's holes in the exhaust and going along. But on the back, on the back of
the windscreen, there is club AU.
There's an AU one and a whole club dedicated to the AU.
Wow. He's like, all right.
Well, Scotty, do you remember when it was like 20 years of the AUA few years ago? The, the these, it started as a
joke on Facebook. Are we all going to rock up to
Ford Ford's head office in, in, in Broadmeadows and demand them remake the Falcon AU? Yeah.
And then a great traction. And then it actually happened.
They all went there. People drove them all over
Australia, bringing their AUS to, to Ford it, you know, for the Ford Planet Broadmeadows. And so that was quite funny.
I don't think Ford themselves were too pleased because they're trying to get rid of anything that was made by Australia.
But that's, that's, that's another story.
But yeah, that's so that's going to happen.
Scotty. We'll bring it back for its 30th
anniversary. How does that sound?
Yeah, yeah. It's the the original, original
1, the the first one that came out with the.
Waterfall Grill. Yeah, that's the one.
Waterfall Waterfall Grill at the front.
Perfect. Yeah, in Chardonnay or whatever
Chardonnay. No, no X Rs allowed.
No XA allowed. No, because the fronts look good
in those. Ones they do the just Series 1
Forte's only that's there can't be many left.
Like there can't. Every time I say it, I'm like,
oh, it's beaten up the crap, but it's still going.
David Prince. Look how you how you talk about
things like this. I always, I always think that
there's love for everything. I mean, I've had, I've got my
first Honda Scamp, I think that 3035 years ago, 36 years ago.
And yeah, I mean, I've had everything's thrown at me over the years, you know, like every, every slew you could possibly imagine about that car. So you grow a bit of a thick
skin and you realise that, you know, I'm, I'm all for people loving what they love, as you say, I mean, and what you like.
And, and if someone's got the most obscure, bizarre looking thing, that's not my cup of tea whatsoever.
I, I still acknowledge the fact that they love it enough to want to keep it. And whether that's a sentimental
thing or a perceived beauty thing or a, or a rarity thing, you know, I mean, there's something cool about.
I was just talking to a friend, David Day today and he has, amongst his collection, he's got a, a Mazda Luche RX87 coupe, which he, he said whenever he takes it out because, oh, I remember these, these used to be everywhere.
No, they didn't. They made 976 of them at the
factory in Japan. It's rarer than a Cosmo, but
they look like a 1500 or an 1800 Mazda from the 60s and 70s.
So everybody thinks, Oh yeah, all right.
Now that car, you know, it's like I was offered years and years ago, I was offered one of two Honda 77 sedans.
That Honda, right? Yeah.
Country. So that's like the Coupe 7 and
the Coupe 9. Honda 1300 coupes.
A lot of people still don't know they existed.
Australia was the only market outside Japan that got them and they bought 2 sedan versions out for evaluation and they both survived. Back in those days they didn't
have to destroy when they decided they weren't going to sell them. They didn't have to destroy them
like they do now at, you know, evaluation vehicles and stuff like that. One still going in the Yarra
Valley with the Technique 1 Civic fitted to it and another one was owned by a designer from General Motors and he actually rang me and offered it to me. He was moving overseas with work
and I, I said thanks, but no, I, I, I won't take it.
It looked like Datsun 1200. So you had one of the rarest
cars not only in Australia but in Japan.
In the world. Really, you'd never get parts
for it looked like a Datsun 1200 sedan because it didn't have the the shark sort of front that made the coup, you know, a bit different, a bit bit interesting.
I didn't see the point in owning something rare, as rare as rare that, you know, that nobody knew was anything, you know, unusual or special. Yeah.
You'd have to be one of those, those people, and you know what I mean, that say I've got a blah, blah, blah and then have to explain, explain everything, tell everything.
About it. Yeah.
Well, I'm used to that, Scotty. The number of people that say,
Oh yeah, I know that's that's like that one that was in Malcolm or that one that was in No, well, that's actually the hatchback version. This mine's mine's the one that
looks like a mini. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always get is it a mini? I'm like, no, it's actually
smaller than me. That can't be possible.
That's what I normally get with it.
So I mean, you got to explain to him, no, it's, it's a, it's a Honda, Honda, you know, like it's a 2 cylinder, it's air cooled and then you start. When you do drive that school,
that when you are driving that car matting, don't take it to school. The story of what students do to
their teachers on the scamps of the Story of Legends.
OK, I'll have to. You'll have to inform us, David
Prince, because I I haven't heard of these these stories.
Oh, they've ended up in the science lab and they've ended up in the reception area. They've ended up in the garden
beds because it takes about four or five, you know, year 9, year 10 kids to lift one up and just wherever they jolly were like.
So yeah, if I were you, I'd keep it well away from.
I want to park it right at the front of my front of my office so I can see it and then. It is still put it in your
office. Yeah, it fit, but actually it
fit. We had a, We had a, I think it
was the 40th anniversary of the club and we had it at a pub, the, the Dingley International Hotel in their function room and they said, oh, can we bring a car in?
They said, oh, you can't get a car in here, I said.
Watch this. Watch me.
Yeah. Yeah.
We got it in the door, I measured it, I knew it would fit and it we just opened the double doors, just rolled the thing in there and that was the centrepiece.
That's the 600 that Ed's got now.
Oh, the big the. Big block.
The big block was the part of the 40th anniversary.
So you're, so you're, you're going.
I don't want to say that, you know, that there's any car that that's, yeah, ugly enough that people shouldn't be enthusiastic about it. Yeah.
Having said that, I never did like the same young Slavic.
David Prince, I thought. That was a car.
I thought that was an abomination.
Well, we've got a car that you don't like that.
You heard it first here. You heard it first.
Here feels that the maybe the the new Kia Tasman would be a bit like that. And if they sell any of them,
let's be honest. They will.
All publicity is good publicity. Yeah, yes or no, But then
there's publicity and then there's publicity, right.
So like it's. Well, that's true.
Talk to Mr Mask about that. Yeah, correct.
Yeah, yeah, he's the king of HR, right.
So, so he's you know, so key of like released it and and people are talking about it because my God, is it is it is it a talking point? But they're kind of at a few
good points with that car. Like they're like, well, you
know, people are talking about it one and two, it's not kind of designed like anything else because everything else looks like an F150. And they've got a good point
about that because they all kind of look the same.
So I don't know. I mean, Mercedes tried to make
the the other X class look kind of, you know, sleek and, excuse me, grounded and that didn't really sell.
And now it's discontinued. So I don't maybe people just
like their their big trucks to be manly and square and tough.
But yeah, who who might have decided?
But we can ask the staying the the the same young stabbing club of Victoria to to to pitch in. Now.
I'm deep. Now I don't know what has to
qualify for the car to be, you know, underappreciated or bully able, but I guess my pick is going to be the Mazda MX6.
OK. Yeah, it's one of the few cars
that I'd accept owning and then being bullied for.
I like an MX 6. I actually like them and I like
the Ford Probe because it's the same thing.
Like I think the Ford Probe was going to be kind of like, I was going to put that in there as like a possible because like nobody likes the Ford Probe like and like Edward despises them.
And I'm like, actually, I think they're the better looking car.
They are they they look better than the MX6.
That's what probably happens. There's like the Ford Pro slash
MX6 club of Victoria, they'll get together and somebody goes lobs like the water balloons filled to pee on them.
Like it's it's always a question of like if somebody's got an MX, they're like, why don't you just have an MX5?
Obviously don't the same thing, but the you know it'd be the better car to buy. Why are you buying the front
wheel drive? More shenanig any?
More power, more room. They're probably like, well,
we're still getting kind of like good looks for a, you know, all wheel steering, 4 wheel steer. Yeah. 4 steer but yeah I'm like
I'd probably get a prelude or something instead and that's why it's not the hated car. No, it's not.
Yeah. So I'm like, there's so many
reasons why you wouldn't get it. But still like if I was to again
buy a car that like I said, maybe it speaks to me and maybe I've accepted my life to be bullied by this, but for my car choice. But that's probably the car
where I'd be like, you know, if there's a club people owning that, I'd be like, I guess I somewhat understand you guys.
I'm not standing near you guys, but I understand you guys.
Well, as I went with the small Fort sundae, there was there's only ever been one probe there and it's this really nice clean purple, like that dark purple. I came in lovely condition.
Like it's a, it's a gorgeous example and he's proud.
He's he parks there and it's the only one that ever shows up.
And I'm like, you need friends in your own pro club, really.
Like, let's be honest, you know? He does.
He's like for this two scared show up.
We all meet in secret. That's an abandoned master
building like normally you know, the comments have to be like often places like a kebab shop nearby.
So now that he's good like the most abandoned masters.
Building makes sense. It's a secret society, really.
Oh, geez. OK, so.
Vortex was a bit like that too, wasn't it?
Yeah, and it's getting a bit of love now, though, because people are like they they kind of like weird and interesting kind of stuff. But yeah, it's it forever was
just nobody cared about them, like, you know, like nobody did.
So yeah, that's that's an interesting, that's a good one actually. The Vortex.
So we've got the vortex, we've got the Capri, we've got the AU David Princess is starting the the same young Stavic appreciation society. Yeah, yeah, Adam starting the MX
6 and slash probe society. Yeah, for me, I don't know, like
it's it's it's a tough one because there are so many different, you know, different options and things that are that are that were, you know, kind of cool or weren't really cool, but really just not appreciated. So like, but but then there's
some cars that don't deserve like, well, I mean, they do deserve it. Like every car kind of deserves
something because it got built right.
But like cars that I think should be a bit more appreciated. We're like, you know, the later
front wheel drive Celicas, they weren't really they're like, oh, it's not a it's not a real, you know, it's like ATA 22 or something. So so something like that would
would have been even with the even the Camry engine powered ones would would you know, would be a bit more it would be should should be appreciated. But yeah, it's it's a tough one.
I like, I was going to say because because we had one as a race car, the Toyota Paseo, it was that car.
Nobody, nobody loved, nobody cared for.
Like it's the same as as, you know, pretty much the same mechanicals as a starlet, but the starlet got more love because everyone everyone kind of likes the starlet.
You know, it's it's whereas the the the say was like, why is this made? Like what does it?
What does this exist? Same thing as the Nissan X,
like, you know, like it's a car that people are like, Oh yeah, that existed, didn't it? I forgot about that.
And then there's no like, appreciation society for them.
Nobody that really cares for them.
I mean, there might be, but like, they're not, they're not big. They're not like they're not big
kind of, you know, cars that that fall under that category.
Any last ones before we get to the quiz, gentlemen?
Now I think it's all interesting that a lot of the cars we've talked about 80s and 90s cars. So I think, I think there are a
lot more risks taken, yeah. And a lot more, much less cookie
cutter, you know, sort of everything looking the same coming out like dual cab used so many SUVs now, you know, similar obviously a key to a CAD system, you know, the dimensions or or the ideal sort of shape. That's what comes out in the
floor pad. The 90s was probably the worst
decade of design. That's a big, that's a big call.
And a lot of people would agree with you, Rob, genuinely, because everything was just rounded and kind of, you know, how that kind of looked. But but I think I think today's
kind of, you know, except let's be honest, Hyundai is pushing the boundaries. But no, but nobody else really
is. Yeah, I don't know if I don't
know if I'd agree with you 100%, but you know, there there is some merit to your argument. I don't know, I just never liked
the design of the 80s cars. 80s or 90s?
Nineties, 90s. Sorry, 80s were good.
Or didn't slip. 90s, Nineties. Talking of Sangyong as you just
I just was a a explorer. Was this the the Range Rover
from TIMU? Yeah, pretty much.
It's not horrible and interesting that it's Korean.
Oh. That's cool, yeah.
For as opposed to the other blood of the cars we're getting from northern parts of Australia?
Yes, Northern. Australia on the next episode of
Car Talk, it's David by the same.
Interestingly, when I was in the UK they actually don't call them sengums over there. I think it's K.
KGMI think it is. Yeah, KMG.
KMG that's a yeah Korean motor. Group.
They changed their name recently.
Like like probably over so oh. OK, OK, so it apparently traces
origins back to Dong a motor. I can see what they've ever
changed. That'd be a great person I was
painting. It would a.
Dong donga, that's a big Dong, you know, just throw up.
Fast. I wanna say one more before you
get to the quiz. The Toyota Avalon.
There you go. They need to have an
appreciation of society that needs to come back so.
They've gone from dad cars to I think at this point because they're all clapped out to low income single dad.
Cars correct, Yeah. So there be a bunch of low
income single dads. I did see a mince one for sale
and a lady at the where super. She was.
She works at the pet shop next door.
She's got one that was given to her.
It's mint like by her grandfather.
You know, it's a it's a classic straw, straw wide brim hat on the back kind of past your car, full electrics.
The the wheel comes out, the wheels come out, come in comes out to you full leather. It seems like that light blue,
like kind of metallic blue. It's like that like that light.
I don't know what the colour's called.
That would be an Avalon Grande. It is a Grande, that is correct.
So. I'll tell Jake.
Yeah, please tell Jake. That model was running for 10
years in America before they brought it here.
Yeah. Yes, correct.
Yep, they didn't. They didn't tell you that, Rob.
They didn't tell you that. Yeah.
Anyway, all right, car quiz time, gentlemen.
It is David's quiz. Oh, David's on the quiz again.
Yes, he is so. Maddie's winning.
Is he? Here we go.
Here's the. Collusion.
Maddie feels like I'm going to win Dave, but Dave's like, or I'll do it, yeah. I feel, I feel like, I feel like
bullying you guys. OK, so this is a Grand Prix
quiz. Oh, Jesus.
OK, Scott's going to win this one.
Scott's going this is, this is a themed 1.
So given given everything that's been going on.
So when you talk about the Grand Prix, I mean there we've got to talk about the modern day Grand Prix.
And there was, there've been 3 stages of Grand Prixs in Australia basically, and one's actually the first one is something like 97 years ago. So yeah, so there's a few
questions here, wide ranging. I'm sure we don't go all right.
Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll set the sign out.
No go here we. Go no you.
Won't I don't know things? This is the Carto Carquest
presented. Very current.
Some of them are not so current so.
I know neither. This is the Carto Carquest
presented by David Prince and the Honda Car Club of Victoria.
Take it, Take it away, David Prince.
Well, they have one, a few, let's say.
Yes, we can't deny that, can we? No question #1 Lando Norris won
last Sunday's Australian Grand Prix, Who came third?
Oh. Scott.
George Russell. Correct.
Yeah. Because it was Verstappen
second. I know that, so second.
And George Russell was third. Yeah, a long time since someone
by the name of George is probably one one of them.
You're a Goss. Question number 20, you're happy
to score, obviously. Absolutely already started.
Question #2 What year was the first current era Grand Prix run at Albert Park? Matthew.
Matthew. 90. 6 correct, Correct. You're about 3 at the time.
No, I was 5I. Wasn't far off.
We're far off, though. OK, which of the following
haven't been naming right sponsors for the Australian Grand Prix? OK, we've got a choice here.
Fosters, Louis Vuitton, Transurban, Mercedes Benz, Qantas, Mitsubishi, Heineken and Omega.
Thank you. Scott.
Got in there first. OK.
Transurban. Incorrect.
Alan. Really.
I'll go with Louis Vuitton, please.
No, that was this year. I don't.
Know no one really didn't watch this.
Matthew. Matthew, there are two that
haven't been, so there's two points.
Oh, there's two points. OK, I want to say no no.
No, no, you go have one guess and then the bonus point will be the second one. Mitsubishi.
Incorrect. Oh, OK, there you go.
Oh yeah, in Adelaide. Rolex.
I didn't say Rolex. Sorry, was it?
I said Omega. Omega Omega.
That'd be correct because Rolex was the sponsor.
Rolex is the sponsor for a. While OK, bonus question, it's
the same question. I'll read them out except for
the last one. Which of the following haven't
been naming rights sponsors for the Australian Grand Prix?
Actually, I can probably read. Just read out the ones that no
one's got, Fosters, Mercedes Benz, Qantas and Heineken.
Matthew. Matthew.
Heineken. Incorrect.
Alum. Alum.
Well, Qantas, no. Great Rob on a plate mate.
Was it Fosses? No fosses.
Fosses did Adelaide. Fosses was, yeah, the Fosters
did it for a long time. Well, that just leaves a lot.
That just leaves you. I don't want to.
No, that's all. You can get the point, Scotty,
come on. Yeah.
You'll win anywhere mate, don't worry about it.
I. Just feel like I shouldn't take
the point that. Who is it, Scotty?
Oh, I've got to say it too. Yes, you do.
Oh shit, what ones were you saying?
Do you? Want me to read them all out
again? He is going to remember himself.
You got to remember yourself, Scotty.
I'm ruining myself. All the ones.
Did you say Mitsubishi? Correct was Mercedes Benz.
Mercedes Benz, yeah. You did say Mercedes.
Oh well, never been the naming rights.
I don't. Reckon I deserved it anyway so.
What struck me as a news I was. Last I was like Nah, I found.
Some great old stuff in the in my Honda archives from the Grand Prix and across the banner is Mitsubishi Motors, you know, Australian Grand Prix. I thought that was.
Interesting. That's cool.
Yeah, I didn't remember that. And transurban, that's staggered
me. I couldn't remember that, no.
That's why I said them first. I was like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know they, they they
certainly weren't. Question. 4/19/95 marks the 60th
anniversary of one of one current manufacturer's first Grand Prix win. 1995. No, no, no, sorry. 2025 this
year. This year.
That's a typo. Marks this.
This year marks the 60th anniversary of one current manufacturer's first Grand Prix. Which manufacturer is that?
They're a current manufacturer. That's a good question, Matthew.
Matthew Aston Martin. Incorrect, Rob.
Rob was next, I think. Yeah, Rob.
Got in it's. Williams.
No it great no manufacturer is in automotive manufacturer.
Automotive manufacturer, OK. Scotty.
McLaren. Incorrect.
Ellen, I was going to guess McLaren.
That's all. I had to.
I'm sorry. OK, I think.
Of some of the other thing of some of the other manufacturers.
I have no idea the other much. You really don't know if I do?
Think of who's doing the quiz. That's Honda.
Yeah, Yeah. So, David?
Do we have the point for that? Because they're still running,
they're still running Honda engines in, in the Red Bulls, right? Is that Yeah, it's it's for the
last year before Ford. Taken and there was another one
that had, although you know the house cars had Honda engines.
Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah.
Yeah, but next year Aston Martin are running Honda engines.
I had much pleasure telling them today at at Aston Martin that I said, oh, next year will be good.
And and Audi's coming into play and.
Cadillac. Yeah, Cadillac.
Yeah, they got the sure, Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah.
Yeah, a bonus question. So yeah, Honda won its first
Grand Prix in 19 in 1965, so it's this year's the 60th anniversary. Bonus question, what city did
they win it in? Well, if anyone's got any
interest in, no, obviously not, it's just me, Just me.
No, no, no, Matthew. Matthew going to say they want
it in France. He's a city.
Oh, sorry, Paris. Incorrect.
It would have been in their home country, wouldn't it?
Incorrect. Oh.
OK. Adelaide.
In 1965, yeah. No, I don't think anyone's going
to get it. It was the key was in the word
city. It was Mexico City.
Oh. Cool.
Yeah, I didn't. Even get a chance, I'm saying
out of Mexico City. Richie Ginza in the number 11
car. Sorry, I didn't hear that.
Question 5 in March 1928. They're going back a bit now.
There was 100 mile road race was held in Australia.
That is acknowledged as being our first Grand Prix.
Where was it held? 100 Mile Road race, Matthew.
Matthew. I'm going to say somewhere in
the Nullarbor. No, incorrect.
OK. I'm Rob just to, you know, throw
it out there. Albert Park.
No, Rob, no that you're that you're thinking of the 1952 one or 54? Yep.
Now this was 192828. Way back.
So Scotty and Alan. Alan was on Sydney Road.
Sydney Road. Yeah, just go between Melbourne
and Sydney somewhere like we'll pick this patches on a lot of cars on it. Go for boys.
Scotty Oreck and Sunbury Scotty. Just around down Chapel Street
Chapel. Where they?
Filmed. 1928. Where they filmed Mad Max down
Wallin or something? No.
No, wouldn't even guess. You were close to Scotty, but
no, no cigar sadly. Phillip Island, Oh.
Really. Yep.
OK. And.
You can still actually drive the the original track.
That's cool. G'day Did they ferry them over
then or did they have? A They did they they ferried
them from Stony Point on. Oh, OK, yeah.
On, yeah, car barges. They, they did have cars on the
island back then. Not a lot, but yeah, they, they
had a, it was a basically a big block, basically a big square thing in the road out to the track is actually, I think the road next to the track is part of the original Grand Prix track. That's cool.
Or 100 mile road race. So, yeah, it's cool that there's
actually a bit of a plug. Oh, there's one member of the
Honda car club here. We are doing a MIDI lunch down
to Phillip Island. And one of the things we're
doing in the afternoon, if people want to do, there's a great museum down at the Phillip Island racetrack.
I will be wanting to be there for that.
That'll be. Awesome.
Yeah, Question number six. Who is the only driver ever to
win a world championship in a car that he built himself?
Matthew. Matthew.
Check problem. Correct.
Bonus question, What year? Matthew.
Matthew. 66. Cool.
Well done. Yes, correct.
Wow. Good work.
Did a bit of research on Jack problem a long time ago.
I'm pretty sure I was 66 so it was a fact I.
Did a bit of research last night because then he was on.
The Get off it, Allen. Had to do the showmanship to
make it seem like he was really thinking.
Absolute legend. I've got a couple of books on
him and yeah, you. Know whatever, you're not
getting your centre book now. Absolutely outrageous question
#7 Who won the 1st Grand Prix in Adelaide in 1985?
Matthew. Matthew.
Elaine Prost. Close right generation
incorrect. Scott Scott, Nigel Mansell.
Again, very close generation. Incorrect, Rob.
Niki Lauder. No, no, it wasn't Niki Lauder.
Incorrect. Lauder.
Will you take the manufacturer? Take a sorry.
Will you take a manufacturer? For the bonus question after we
got this one, yeah. I got enough from them, I'm
sorry. It was Kecky Rosberg.
Kecky, Rosberg. Kecky Rosberg and as a result,
I'll tell you in a minute. Bonus point, which team what?
Was it Matthew? Matthew.
Was it Sauber? No, incorrect.
I will say, Scott. Scotty Lotus Incorrect.
Good guess. What's right here?
Robot Elfin elfin elf with the elf team.
No, you hear it. Oh.
They're an elfin. I'm sure it was an elfin team.
No Ferrari. I think oh sadly that incorrect
it was a cannon Williams Honda team Honda did a did a great promotional thing after that they they made bumper stickers and a lot of cars in 86 had Kiki and I both won with a Honda I think I feel. Like that's actually one of my
favourite liveries on a, on a Formula One car that that blue and yellow, yeah, blue and yellow and the blend, the black.
And so, yeah, it was fantastic. It was a good, good livery.
OK. Oh yeah.
Oh, that's the orphan. Yeah.
OK. Was that 85?
It doesn't say exactly what you, but it was around that era.
OK, OK. Question 8.
Who are the 2020 Australian Grand Prix, 2020 Australian Grand Prix? Scott.
Scott. No one, because it was covert.
Correct that. Was actually going to be my
guess, damn it. That was one question I.
Had a chance to get. Wrong.
I remember I started, you know, my teaching career and stuff.
It's like, wait a minute. Qualified.
Did they have qualifying though? No, they on the first day they
shut the gates because because we sent some kids to to go there with some teachers and they were like, Nope, you're not coming in today. Sorry guys.
I got in on the Thursday. I was going to say, I think that
was open the. Thursday was yeah, I got in on
the Thursday. All threw their heads up in
horror. And then, yeah, the Friday
morning, everyone was at the gates.
Yeah, and they said no. Yep, and there was news about
drivers that have already left the country.
Country. Yep, Yep, it was crazy.
What? Ozil does come to mind.
That was exactly the word that came to mind.
What a while, Tom. Can you guys believe we lived
through a pandemic? Scorchy.
Scorchy Alan. Yet to score, but he's winning
in golf rules, as you would say, 111 Scotty on two and myself on three. So it's still anybody's game
unless your name. Unless your name's Alan, It's
like, shut up. Oh, that's that's real bullying
in here. Alan, turn his mic off.
OK, question #8 Rob, I thought of you earlier when I when I thought of this question earlier when you were talking.
The celebrity race that was a part of the lead up to the main race for many years has seen the destruction of many cars.
Which of the following cars have not been used and abused?
OK so I got another list here. Hold an Astra Holden Calibra,
Lexus CT200H, Toyota Corolla SX, Mini Cooper, Ford Telstar TX 5, Subaru WRX, BMW1 Series, Fiat 500.
Matthew. Matthew.
Sure. I don't think they've ever used
the WRX. Correct.
That's one. There's one more.
Oh. OK.
I'll go with the Lexus. Incorrect.
They didn't. They didn't use that.
Can I buzz in again? Give everybody a go first.
That's why you give everybody. Can you say your second one?
I was going to say the second one, but I already forgot the.
Whole Calibra. Yeah, that one.
Incorrect. Now.
So we've got the. Calibra so.
We've got Holden Astra, Toyota Corolla SX, Mini Cooper, Ford Telstar TX 5, a BMW One Series or a Fiat 500.
OK, Rob, Fiat 500 incorrect. We're.
All back in it now. We're all back in.
All back in Matthew. Matthew.
TX5 Turbo. Incorrect.
OK. Yep, Mark Hartford famously
drove 1 into the wall and nearly ruined his music career.
Jeez, OK. Sorry, Rob.
Scott, are you next? Oh, Scott.
I'm going to say the Beamer One series.
No, they used one series. I'm not.
I'm 100% sure they used one series.
Incorrect. They did.
They used them for about four years, Actually four years.
Ago. I just can't think of anything
else. What are the options left?
That there's only two, and I think I know which one it is.
Watch Search is Holden Astra Toyota Corolla SX Allen.
Your time has come, your time just shine.
Come on, Allen. I don't know.
Come on. Come on, alum.
Come on, alum. It's 5050, Rob.
You guess first. No, no, no, I've already guessed
it. I'm out.
It's. All you give him.
Come on, bread breeding. I can't.
It's 5050. Just take a punt.
Just take a punt. So.
Corolla SX, which is like the old twin Cam four age Corollas or you're looking at a Holden Astra are.
You shit cards. I'll say Alan Holden Astra.
Incorrect. It's the Toyota Coro.
I was feeling the Toyota. Yeah, they they used the Astros.
They didn't use the the. That was fun.
The Lord giveth, the Lord take it away.
It's a rough night, ladies and gentlemen.
Question 10. Which driver holds the record
for the most Grand Prix wins of all time?
In terms of races or all time? Most Grand Prix wins.
Grand Prix wins, OK. It's a.
Good question. Wrong.
So Stangio. Incorrect.
Matthew Racing, if it means anything.
Matthew yeah, I was going to say it'd, it'd be Lewis Hamilton, right? Correct.
Yeah, Bonus question, how many? Oh geez, that's a good question.
Scott. Closest to, closest to.
Go on, Scott. It's 100 and 100 and. 64164
Scotty Yeah, thank you. I'm gonna say 8686.
Ellen. I'll wait for Rob.
I'm. Just going to worry, I don't
know 100. Is it so close to winning a?
132. 132 Yep. All right. 112. 112 OK, the
correct answer is 105 S Alan wins the point.
Alan, those win the point well. Look at that.
I was waiting for the wisdom of the group, and once I had the wisdom of the group, I was going to bring it down.
Is that the cruise, David Prince?
That's the cruise. Questions.
Score check. Alan and Rob win tonight on Golf
Rules day on one H, Scotty on two and myself is the normal winner on a grand total of five. Yeah.
No one wants to brag it. All right, calm down, mate.
That's all right, that's all right.
I'm not bragging. We're running out of time,
stealing 9:00. I've got to go home.
All right, all right, some school, school.
I was going to say school cheques.
Can't stop dragon mate school. Cheques.
I can do it again. Some plugs, gentlemen, some
plugs. David Prince, you do a podcast.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we do auto retro.
Yeah, everyone's heard about that before.
I just want to plug the all four day coming up on the 6th of April at Eastern Park, Geelong. Are you good?
That many. No, I'm I'm going to go though.
I don't know What Car I'm going to bring, though I might bring the might be the Fiesta. We'll see how we go.
Cool. And as before mentioned is
Sunday is Eyeball at at Clayton and also is Sunday is the Ripenley concourse. I don't know if anyone's heard
about the Ripenley concourse. So I bumped into one of the
organisers of that the other day.
I said, oh, are you David Prince?
I said, yeah. He said, are you Scampi Prince?
Yes. Yeah.
Yes, he said. Oh, I'm Jack Quinn.
I'm. I'm a benzene, a magazine.
I said, oh, I guess I know who you are.
So, yeah, he's doing the Ripley concourse.
And he said, oh, are you coming along?
You know, we, we, you know, I've been getting all the, all the updates about it and emails about it.
And I thought to myself, I don't know why I don't, don't really want to go, but it's all the sort of cars, you know, you see at work and, and you're working on it and all that sort of thing. So yeah, that's partly it.
Also, Ripley's a bit close to home, but I grew up not far from there and my mother lived in the area for a long time and used to know the family that owned Rippenleigh, which is a beautiful old house in in Rippenleigh, in in Victoria.
And if she was at the bus stop in in time in the morning to to get go to school down in Brighton, she went to school with the daughter and that's the chauffeur in would stop in the Rolls Royce and pick her up. So she she's.
As you do. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
She gets chauffeur driven to school in the Rolls Royce.
It was very funny. So no, I won't be able to get
riddling concourse, I don't think, but there'll be some.
I'm sure the the grammes will be full of photos of that.
Scotty's G2 of the Week. G2 of the week is what you want
to remember when you're going to hit.
The ball. Is picture it like back when you
were a kid and going to skim rocks.
So when you're coming into it, it's like you're skimming a rock you're not hitting down or anything like that Skimming a rock nice, right There's a good guy on TikTok.
He's acts like a super crazy mad guy and the way he explains it is is quite funny. So that's where I got that one
from. There you go.
It's a good tip. Good tip.
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