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Concept
golf cart size vs "car size"
They’re basically talking about how small vehicles fit into real life. Golf carts are easy to park and use, but they’re limited; a slightly bigger “car-sized” vehicle feels more capable, even if it still isn’t a full car.
Concept
no suspension / rough ride
Suspension is what helps a car smooth out bumps. If a vehicle has almost no suspension working for you, every pothole and crack hits you harder, making the ride feel rough and uncomfortable.
Concept
roads are kind of banged up
If the roads are rough, even a decent car will feel worse. For a vehicle with limited suspension, bad pavement makes the ride feel extra jarring.
Term
no door
If a vehicle has no doors, there’s less to hold onto and less protection from bumps and movement. The host is saying their phone came out because the opening is exposed.
Concept
crash-detection emergency alerts
Some cars and phones can detect a crash and automatically message people you trust. The goal is to get help to the right place faster without you having to call manually.
Term
SOS
“SOS” is an emergency button or feature that can send help automatically after a crash. It uses the car/phone sensors to figure out something bad happened and then alerts your contacts.
Term
G forces
“G forces” are how hard and fast something is accelerating. In a crash, the sudden forces can be so big that the car or phone can tell an accident happened and send an alert.
Topic
Talladega
Talladega is a famous NASCAR race track. Because cars race in tight groups at very high speed, crashes can happen suddenly and affect a lot of cars at once.
Concept
pack racing
Pack racing means lots of cars are running close together. If one car gets into trouble, the cars around it don’t have much space to avoid it, so wrecks can spread quickly.
Concept
headrest and hard ass foam
That “foam cocoon” is the thick padding around the driver’s head and seat area. Its job is to protect the driver’s head and neck if there’s a crash or hard hit.
Topic
back straightaway
A “straightaway” is the part of the track where the car goes mostly straight and faster. “Back” usually means a specific straight section on that circuit.
Topic
highlights on YouTube
They’re saying they watched the race recap videos online. That’s how people can see what happened even if they weren’t there in person.
Concept
yellow
A “yellow” is when the race slows down because of something happening on the track. It can change when teams pit and how the race restarts.
Concept
spinning out
Spinning out means the car loses traction and starts rotating instead of going straight. It usually happens when the tires can’t grip the track anymore, so the driver can’t steer normally.
Concept
race car driver
A race car driver is the person trying to go fast and stay in control for the whole race. When there are lots of cautions, it can make it harder to keep a good pace.
Concept
engine failures
An engine failure is when the engine breaks or can’t keep running. In a race, that usually means the car has to stop, and it can cause a caution for everyone else.
Concept
five or six laps down
“Laps down” means you’re behind by whole laps. When you’re that far back, it’s usually hard to catch up, so the strategy changes to just trying to finish or avoid more trouble.
Concept
getting into the wall
“Getting into the wall” indicates a contact/impact with the track barrier, which can cause suspension damage, alignment issues, and aerodynamic problems. Even if the car still runs, performance can drop enough that it becomes difficult to gain positions, prompting pit decisions.
Concept
make up a spot
“Make up a spot” means moving ahead of another car. If you can’t pass people, you can’t really gain positions, so the race plan has to change.
Concept
pull in (pit stop)
“Pull in” means coming into the pits. If you realize you’re not going to move up in the race, you come in so you don’t just lose time out on track.
Concept
ruin somebody else's race
They’re talking about how one driver’s crash can mess up other drivers too. In a tight race, if you lose control or hit the wall, it can lead to debris or contact that ruins someone else’s chances.
Term
old tires
Old tires are tires that have been used for a while, so they don’t grip as well. When grip drops, the car can slide more easily, especially if you’re already dealing with damage or getting into the wall.
Concept
tire strategy (pit timing)
Tire strategy is about deciding when to change tires during the race. Even if tires could last longer, teams might pit to get better grip now and move up positions.
Term
tire cut
A “tire cut” means the tire gets damaged—like a slice or tear—so it doesn’t grip as well. The speaker is saying the problem might not be just the tire being damaged.
Term
set of tires
A “set of tires” is the whole tire package the team puts on the car at once. In a race, tires wear out, so teams decide when to change them to keep the car fast.
Term
gain as many spots
“Spots” means race positions. The team is trying to use better grip from fresh tires to pass other cars and move up.
Concept
tire wear
Tire wear is how the tire gets used up over time. Worn tires don’t grip as well and can even fail sooner, especially when they’re worked hard for many laps.
Term
tire stint
A tire stint is how long you use one set of tires before changing them. If you go too long, the tires get worn out and can cause problems.
Concept
lucky break
A lucky break is when something unexpected happens that helps a driver. In racing, that can mean gaining position even if you didn’t do anything special.
Term
fuel issue
A “fuel issue” means the car isn’t getting the gas it needs the way it should. That can make the engine lose power or run poorly, and in a race that usually costs you time.
Term
running out of fuel
It means the race car didn’t have enough gas to keep running strong. When fuel gets too low, the engine can start acting up or slow down a lot, which can ruin a driver’s race.
Term
flat tire
A “flat tire” means the tire went low on air or got punctured. With less grip, the car can feel loose or start to spin, especially when turning or accelerating.
Term
cup car
A “cup car” is a NASCAR-style race car. It’s built for stock-car racing, and if a tire goes flat, the car can become very hard to control fast.
Concept
natural caution
A “caution” is when NASCAR slows the race because something happened on the track. A “natural caution” means it happened because of real racing events—like debris or a wreck—rather than something planned.
Topic
lack of cautions vs race format
They’re talking about why there haven’t been many slowdowns in the race. The hosts debate whether it’s because of how NASCAR’s season/playoffs are set up or because of how cars/drivers have changed over time.
Concept
playoff format
The “playoff format” is how NASCAR’s season-ending points system works. It can change how aggressively drivers push, which can affect how many wrecks happen and how many cautions you see.
Concept
grip
Grip is how much traction the tires have. More grip means the car can turn and accelerate without slipping as easily, which helps drivers stay in control.
Concept
downforce
Downforce is the “suction” effect from the car’s shape that presses it onto the road. When there’s more downforce, the tires can grip better, so the car feels more stable and controllable.
Concept
tire failures
Tire failures mean the tires don’t survive the race conditions. If tires overheat or get damaged, the car can suddenly lose traction and become hard to control.
Concept
next gen
“Next gen” means the newer version of the race car that was introduced. When a new car comes out, it often takes time for teams to learn how to set it up and drive it reliably.
Concept
stability
Stability is how “steady” the car feels when you’re driving fast. A more stable car is easier to keep on line and less likely to get loose when you make corrections.
Concept
bulletproof engines
When someone says an engine is “bulletproof,” they mean it’s very unlikely to break even when it’s pushed hard. Race teams build and maintain these engines so they can survive the whole event.
Term
oil systems
The oil system is how the engine gets oil to the moving parts. In race conditions, the oil has to keep flowing correctly so the engine doesn’t overheat or wear out.
Concept
technology developed to prevent failure
They’re talking about how racing teams invest a lot of money to make the car dependable. The goal is to reduce the odds of something going wrong during a race.
Concept
reliability improvements over time
They’re basically saying cars used to break down in certain predictable ways more often, but modern cars are less likely to have those same failures. That’s usually because of better engineering and tougher parts.
Term
oil pump
The oil pump is like the engine’s oil circulation system. If it stops working, the engine doesn’t get enough oil and can overheat or get damaged fast.
Term
starve the engine of oil
If an engine is “starved” for oil, it’s not getting enough lubrication. That can lead to metal-to-metal contact and major engine damage.
Term
power steering pumps
The power steering pump helps you steer with less effort. If it’s damaged or loses drive from a belt, steering can feel stiff or difficult.
Term
fan belts
A fan belt helps run important parts of the engine. If it comes off or breaks, the car can lose things like charging and cooling.
Term
water pump seized up
The water pump moves coolant through the engine to prevent overheating. If it seizes, coolant can’t circulate and the engine can overheat quickly.
Topic
last lap / race restart analysis
They’re basically replaying the race and talking through what happened lap-by-lap. By looking at where the cars are at the start/finish line and how they move through the turns, you can understand why a pass worked.
Concept
drafting (slipstream)
When one race car is close behind another, the air gets “cleaned up” for the car in back. That can help it go faster and catch the leader, which is why passes often happen after a driver gets into that pocket of air.
Topic
Darlington
Darlington is a famous NASCAR race track. Different tracks reward different car setups and driving styles, so “Darlington” matters when talking about who’s fast and winning.
Concept
sustain the success
They’re basically asking: can this team keep winning for a long time? In racing, other teams study what works and try to catch up, so staying on top is hard.
Term
stage wins
In NASCAR, some races are divided into sections called stages. Winning a stage gives a team points and bragging rights even if they don’t win the whole race.
Concept
Cup level
“Cup level” means the top NASCAR racing series. It’s the highest competition level, so teams are dealing with the strictest rules and most scrutiny.
Concept
everyone cheats
They’re talking about teams bending the rules in racing. Even if most things are technically legal, some teams try to gain an advantage by pushing right up to (or past) what’s allowed.
Concept
pure illegal parts
They’re saying teams probably don’t use obviously illegal parts as much as they used to. Instead, the cheating (if it happens) may be more subtle—things that are harder to catch.
Concept
NASCAR tolerance and "gray areas" in car building
Racing rules control what teams can change, but there’s often some wiggle room. Teams try to make the car as fast as possible while staying just inside the rules, because even tiny differences can affect performance.
Term
pick up some rubber
It means the driver needs more tire grip. The crew is telling them to drive in a way that helps the tires get warm and stick better to the track.
Term
green white checker
A “green-white-checker” is a special finish format used in NASCAR. It’s basically: go back to racing (green), then the next lap is the last lap (white), and then the checkered flag ends the race.
Concept
first on four tires
“First on four tires” means the car was ready to go before the others after the race slowed down. If you’re the first one rolling, you usually have an advantage because you’re in front when racing resumes.
Concept
contact late in the race
“Contact late in the race” refers to collisions or rubbing between cars occurring near the end of a race when drivers are pushing harder for position. In NASCAR, late-race contact can be especially consequential because it can trigger cautions, damage cars, and change the race outcome quickly.
Brand
Toyotas
They’re talking about the Toyota cars in the race and how they’re driving around each other. In NASCAR, different manufacturers can show different on-track behavior because teams set the cars up differently and race differently.
Topic
2026 NASCAR season
They’re talking about the 2026 NASCAR season—basically the year of stock-car races that NASCAR runs. The early races are already showing the kind of hard, close racing NASCAR is known for.
Company
Lionel Racing
Lionel Racing is a company that makes NASCAR model cars (die-cast). Their models are officially licensed, so they’re meant to look like the real race cars from NASCAR.
Term
die cast
“Die-cast” is the process used to make metal model cars. Collectors like it because the models usually have lots of fine details and feel solid in your hands.
Topic
Victory Lane
“Victory Lane” is where race winners celebrate after the checkered flag. It’s basically the iconic “we won” moment, and the car often shows real race wear afterward.
Company
RCR
RCR is a NASCAR racing team. They’re saying that team hasn’t been performing well recently, so the cars aren’t running up front like they should.
Term
18th place
“18th place” just means the car finished 18th in the race. Finishing that far back usually means the car wasn’t fast enough or the team didn’t make the right calls during the race.
Concept
spotter
A spotter is like a second set of eyes for the driver. They talk to the driver over the radio and warn them about cars around them and what’s coming up on the track.
Term
decent car
“Decent car” usually means the driver gets a race car that’s competitive and set up to do well. It’s not just about speed—it’s also about the team making the car work properly.
Concept
long-term deal
A long-term deal is basically a longer contract between a driver and a racing team. It usually means the team plans to keep working with that driver for multiple seasons.
Company
Track or not track house
They’re talking about a well-funded racing team/program and whether it could be a place for the driver to go. The exact name is unclear in the transcript, but the idea is that money and resources matter for getting a competitive ride.
Topic
contract financially that he's looking for
In racing, a contract is the whole package a driver signs—usually money, but also what kind of car and team support they’ll get. The hosts are saying the driver might switch teams/programs if the deal matches what he needs financially.
Topic
top 10
“Top 10” just means finishing 10th place or better. In racing, that’s a sign you’re running well enough to get more chances and better results.
Topic
run the other series like trucks
They’re saying the driver likes to race in other NASCAR categories too, like the truck series. Racing in different series can help a driver get more seat time and better results.
Concept
Victor Lane
“Victor Lane” is what NASCAR fans call the spot where the winner celebrates after a race. When someone says they want to get back to Victor Lane, they mean they want to win again.
Company
Spire
“Spire” is a NASCAR racing team. The hosts are saying that switching to that team could open up chances to race in a way that makes winning more realistic.
Topic
intermediate tracks not being entertaining enough
They’re talking about whether the mid-size NASCAR tracks are fun to watch. The idea is that these tracks have been important, but they’re questioning if they’re exciting enough.
Topic
Charlotte for the 600
They’re talking about a big race at Charlotte Motor Speedway. The point is that some races can feel boring if the cars and racing don’t create enough passing and battles.
Concept
snoozer
“Snoozer” is used as a shorthand for a race that doesn’t produce much action—typically meaning fewer passes, fewer position changes, and less on-track drama. In stock-car racing, that often comes down to how competitive the field is and whether cars can make clean moves.
Concept
very similar racing
“Very similar racing” suggests a field where cars behave similarly and the racing process becomes predictable—often leading to fewer overtakes. In NASCAR, that can happen when cars are closely matched and the racing strategy (tires, pit timing, cautions) dominates rather than driver-to-driver differences.
Concept
pass drive through the field
They’re talking about a driver who can move up by passing other cars. That’s what makes a race fun—seeing someone gain positions instead of just running in place.
Term
lap 35
“Lap 35” just means a specific point in the race. They’re saying that by that point, the tires were already wearing down more than they expected.
Concept
fuel run out of gas strategy
They’re talking about planning fuel so you don’t run out before the next pit stop. If you wait too long, you could be stuck; if you pit early, you lose time but stay safe.
Term
stage break
In some races, the event is split into sections called stages. A “stage break” is when one section ends and the next begins, and teams often change tires or fuel because stage points are on the line.
Concept
stretch out the fuel/tires strategy
“Stretching it out” is when teams try to go longer between pit stops. They’re trying to balance saving tires and fuel with not running out or losing too much performance.
Concept
stage points
“Stage points” are points awarded based on performance in each stage of a race, not just the final result. This can incentivize teams to pit at stage breaks or adjust risk levels to maximize points rather than only chasing the win.
Concept
pit strategy
Pit strategy is when teams decide to come into the pits and what they do there (like tires and fuel). If the race doesn’t slow down much, those decisions become even more important.
Concept
under green
“Under green” means the race is going normally—no caution slowing everyone down. When that happens, teams have to plan pit stops and tire changes more carefully because they can’t rely on slowdowns to help them.
Concept
building phase / rebuilding the race team
“Rebuilding the race team” means the team is making changes to get better—like adjusting who’s in charge and how they work. Even if it’s tough right now, the goal is to improve results later.
Term
crew chief
The crew chief is the person in charge of race strategy for the team. They decide things like when to pit and how to adjust the car, so replacing one can change how the whole team performs.
Topic
road courses
Road courses are tracks with lots of turns and braking, not just left turns like many ovals. Cars and drivers have to be good at cornering and getting back up to speed out of turns.
Concept
set up
A race “setup” is how the team adjusts the car for the track. If the setup isn’t right, the car might be fast one week and struggle the next.
Concept
gambling on Connor being the next great thing
They’re talking about teams taking a chance on a newer driver. Instead of only trusting someone with a proven track record, they’re hoping the driver’s talent will grow into top results.
Concept
successful season in the rally series
They’re referencing that Connor did well in rally racing. Rally is a different style of driving, so doing great there suggests skill, but it doesn’t automatically mean the driver will dominate in every other type of race.
Concept
point / down there pretty good
They’re talking about the standings system where drivers earn points across races. If someone is “doing pretty good” in points, it means they’re finishing well enough often to stay competitive.
Concept
make it to the top 20
They’re discussing a cutoff position like “top 20.” In racing, hitting certain ranks can decide who moves forward or earns opportunities, so missing it can hurt a driver’s season.
Concept
Suarez outracing Ross is a issue
They’re saying there’s a problem if one driver is beating another. In racing, who’s faster can affect decisions about the team and what happens next for drivers.
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This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.
I don't know if we've ever argued.
Did I piss you off over the weekend or?
I'm still sour that I was the best man that you're with.
Who was your best man, Dale?
TJ.
You don't need a cool vest for that race.
What are you thinking?
Get him, TJ.
That's the way it's starting to show.
All right then.
Hey, everybody, it's Dell Jr.
Back again for another episode of the Dell Jr. download
and it's Tuesday.
Co-host TJ Majors is here.
How's it going?
Hey, how's it going?
Brett, you back in the swing of things?
No, not really.
Went out on a trip to St. Martin's.
We went to a couple different...
We went to Anguilla and a couple of the spots.
All the little boat trips.
But we spent four days there.
It was fun.
We had bought this trip at a charity auction.
We go to all the charity auctions around town, right?
The drivers invite you and they come to yours
and you want them to come to yours.
You go to theirs, right?
And every one of them probably has some kind of a trip.
Yeah, a little vacation to get away.
And those never...
And I've experienced this happens at my own.
They never go in the auction for what they're worth.
Really?
Never.
And you can get some of these at very, very good bargains.
And so we always bid on the trip
because it's more than likely going to go for less than it's worth.
And if we can't take the trip,
we'll give it to our employee of the year here at Junimersport.
So we'll use it somehow.
We might even...
I don't know.
We find somehow to use it.
But we had a great trip while we were on the trip.
And I'm sure we'll talk about this a lot on Thursday
with Bless Your Heart.
But while we were on a trip,
I rented one of them.
We get a Mokey, right?
You know, a Moke, whatever they call it in things,
a little golf cart thing.
It's a little bigger than a golf cart.
They call them Mokes.
And we've seen them all over Charleston and stuff.
And we just never got one.
We thought about it, but they're...
Yeah, I don't know.
They're just...
I don't know.
It's kind of...
It's like a car, right?
Yeah, it's a little bit of a car, but not a car.
Yeah, it's a little large.
Like golf carts are convenient because of the size.
You park them anywhere.
Mokes are getting back into the car size.
And you don't really...
I don't know.
You don't...
I'm like, you know, there's only four people who can ride on it.
My golf cart is six computer people.
So I'm not buying one.
Yeah, we just look at them and wonder how they are.
Wonder what it's like to have one.
We rented one while we were at this house.
And I'm going to tell you, man,
that's something I ain't got no suspension on.
It is the roughest...
It is the roughest ride.
Really?
Damn it.
So it didn't do itself favors with it.
Listen, it's in St. Martin's.
The roads are kind of banged up.
You know, the roads are what they are.
It's okay.
But riding around in the moke, no suspension on a damn thing.
I mean, basically all the suspension you got
is a saddle all the time.
It's rough as s***.
And so I'm glad I never mess with one of them things.
Also, we were riding home from dinner.
And the moke, when you sit in the moke,
there's no door, right?
So my phone went on out of the f***ing moke.
Going home from dinner.
Okay?
We get back to the house
and I'm just kind of looking around for my phone.
I'm like, man, I must have left it at the restaurant s***.
I got to run back to the restaurant.
It's only a half mile, mile of the road.
So we riding up, me and my buddy,
we getting to get in that damn moke
and haul ass to the damn restaurant.
Phone ain't there.
I'm walking around.
I got my Garmin watch.
And when my Garmin watch is near the phone,
I'll start getting the text and alerts and stuff.
I'm not get, you know, I'm walking around everywhere we were
in this little area.
It's kind of like a little Burkdale, if you will.
And there's restaurants and all kinds of stuff.
So we're kind of wandering around and,
man, am I phone it?
It just ain't there.
But I'm convinced it's there.
It's got to be.
So we drive back home.
We get back home and long story short,
the phone ended up exiting my pocket on the way home
in a turn and ended up on the road.
Got drove run over a bunch.
So the phone is destroyed.
But it sent Amy a text that I had.
We had been in accident.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, hey, SOS, SOS, Dale's been in a crash.
So it saw, you know, saw these G forces and was with Amy
when the tech, when this alert got sent out.
Yeah.
Okay, that's good.
And so she's like, well, there's, you know,
here it is in this turn on the street.
So we went to that showed you where the accident was
right to the spot.
And there was the phone making noise like, hey, I'm over here.
And I've been in Iraq.
Help me.
I had my iPad so I can still communicate with folks
and receive text messages and then answer emails and stuff.
But I'm getting a new phone.
And again, I'm integrating into society after this.
These trips are tough.
You know, barely you go.
I don't know how y'all are about trips.
But if I go on a trip when I come home,
it's like I've been going a year.
Yes, 100% you're like, I don't want to, I don't want to work.
I don't want to like, I want to wake up and have drinks at 9am.
I don't want to know.
It's definitely more of an adjustment.
Even like a two day trip is it's like waking up out of a coma.
You're like, what year is it?
Yeah.
What's what's what all's what all's going on?
Definitely gets harder is I feel like as you get older too.
I know you're on.
I don't know how to say this too.
And I think I need to be honest about this.
And I don't know how to say this and I don't want anybody to take
this the wrong way.
Oh, boy.
But I was like when I'm on a trip, it's hard for me to like plug
into the NASCAR.
You know what I mean?
Oh, 100%.
I just I just got it ingrained in my head that I ain't going
to watch the race today.
So we're sitting there at dinner and I get a text message
from or Kelly text messages.
Amy Carson flipped.
Does Dale know?
And I'm like flipped.
Yeah.
Talladega's next week.
We're doing flipping.
We can flip it.
They told them we can flip it.
Tell they were supposed to flip anywhere else.
Yeah.
And and and I went from.
Hey, man, thank you.
It's gonna be cool.
They're gonna race.
I'll check in.
I'll see how they finish to 10 out of 10 smoke coming
out of my ears dinner ruined night ruined like what in the
and so I watch a video of it.
I'm like how in the hell I'm like they come off the corner
and he hits him and they wreck what is going on and then
William Byron takes me in the morning.
He's like, man, I'm so sorry.
He's like, I was just trying to go and I got up.
He's like, I'm sorry.
I'm up and I'm like, damn it.
And so that sucked.
Yeah, sucked.
So it sucked being there to do that.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I think I would have rather had been there than to learn that care
of being trying to you're trying to you know half drunk trying
to drink a my tire of you know, I will say that cold beers.
The only saving thing was probably when you probably found out
you probably already knew that everything he was okay and
yes, of course.
So because there was a time I don't know if you knew this or
not that didn't he couldn't talk to us.
Yeah.
Well, and that wasn't the fun part.
So well, I'm sure it wasn't a lot of fun banging around
bouncing down the back straightaway in that cocoon of
a headrest and I'm hard ass foam on that thing.
Yeah, it was bouncing his little head around and they're
pretty good.
Like the asphalt hits were definitely.
Yeah.
Well, and then in Sunday, you know, watched all the
highlights watched a bit, you know, thankfully on YouTube
they throw the highlights together and put it on there
and you can watch, you know, chunks of the race or all the
race or whatever.
So I I learned that the only natural yellow was Cody
where Cody where spinning out and there were some, you
know, there's some opinions around that.
So we're going to talk about that.
But I think, you know, Cal Petty.
I watched a little content with Cal Petty and and
let's hard and they're like, Hey, man, that's just the way
life is, you know, sometimes people spend out.
It sucks.
And I totally get how Denny feels because you you race
all day long.
I don't care if you're going to win, you're going to run
second, third or fourth or whatever you run all day long
and you're like, how can we not got finish a couple
more laps without spending out?
But it just happens and
so there's a side of me that totally gets where Denny's
coming from.
From if I'm if I'm the race car driver, I am a hundred
percent on Denny's side.
But at the same time, golly, man, that was the only
natural yellow we had all day long like we don't we
need more of those crashes and spins.
We need self spins.
We need engine failures.
We need things that are natural, naturally, you
know, clucky.
But this one is just a dumb one.
You're like, I know you're no, no, what I'm saying
though is here you got five minutes.
Get it out of your system.
You're ahead.
You're five or six laps down.
You just got into the wall.
Why are you not bringing him in?
You can't make up a spot.
Why would you bring him in?
How does it got to quit?
He was racing somebody, wasn't he?
I thought I read he was racing two other cars.
He can't make up a spot like he.
Why?
What difference does it make?
Yeah.
I mean, if there's a right as soon as you realize
you can't gain spots, you're supposed to pull
in.
There was no other car within a lap of him.
That's some entitlement.
That's a new level of entitlement.
Yeah, that is.
That's not right.
He just got on the wall there on like 60 lap.
Like, okay.
Well, Tyler Reddick got in the wall and didn't pit either.
Yeah.
I mean, when he was racing for the win.
Well, he hit their own race.
He should hit the wall.
He could spin out and ruin somebody else's race.
He should pit.
I mean, everyone's running their own race.
That Denny's race is no more important than
than any other car out there in their opinion.
You're on old tires.
You know it.
You just got into the wall.
Why wouldn't you?
He didn't just get in the wall.
He got in the wall way before that.
Bring the car in.
That's all like.
Bring it in for what?
I'm all for like.
What do you want to do?
Put a brand new tires on it for five laps.
He ran more than he ran more than like a lap.
He got on the wall way before that $5,000 a lap.
I don't think the tire cut because if we're worried
about the tire like that.
We've got a bit.
There's a bigger issue at hand than if they're making
decisions because of money.
Everybody does for a set of tires is the like I mean,
it's five laps to go.
Why would you put on a set?
Ruin them for five laps.
I don't think they're just trying to save a set of tires.
I think they're trying to gain as many spots because
if you pitch is going way more laps down.
If he's sitting here.
It's the same.
If he's sitting here.
It's absolutely fair to say cut away.
Finish the race.
Don't spin.
I don't think Cody wears fault.
I think it's the team and Tommy even admitted that.
Well, I think how come the guy can't get to the finish
line?
Did he have flat?
But like what?
What did it?
You know, did he know he had a flat?
I mean, he was complaining about issues before when did he hit
the wall lap many, many laps before how far before TJ?
I was it was quite a ways before a couple of what I was from
what I the info that I gathered on it several corners.
Oh, several laps laps.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he just like 60 laps.
You think the flat tire was random?
I think it was wore out.
Oh, probably down to the fab fabric.
I think it was wore out.
Yeah, you know, I'm just guessing but 60 laps was a
long way with people were hurting tires and 35 to 40.
Hey, all right.
I mean, that to me is a natural just a happenstance.
It sucks.
But let's be honest.
I mean, Denny like just got the lead because of a kind of a
lucky break.
Yeah.
I mean, he got the lead because Tyler was running out of
fuel or had a fuel issue.
I don't know if you saw that.
Yeah, I did.
So it's not like Denny had this gigantic lead.
Yeah.
This isn't like a Denny thing for me.
What is it?
I think I want our races to have more things that happened
with party where agree, but I don't want it.
Sorry to happen.
And I'm sorry.
It bothered something that you enjoyed.
I don't want it.
I don't want it to ruin Denny's race.
No, I don't want it with three to go with the guy that's
five laps down spinning on his own.
Well, they don't control that.
Well, he didn't spin on his own.
I know he was like, watch this guy's here we go.
Apparently he had a flat tire.
Yeah.
You ever driven a cup car with a flat tire?
I haven't driven a cup car period, but that's all right.
I don't think that matters though.
I, you know, but I do think your point of lack of
cautions is like when I was watching the highlights
and Mike Joyce said the first natural caution of the day.
I was like, I felt terrible over time.
I felt terrible for all the people to watch that
whole thing in full.
Yeah.
Why do you think we're having so little?
Is it, I think Gluck said maybe is it because of the
playoff format and people racing differently?
No, I mean, dude, we don't, we, we haven't had many
natural yellows for the last 25 years.
I mean, this is according to NASCAR insights, the
fewest amount of cautions to this many races since
2012.
Yeah.
Kansas usually.
So in 2012, what was going on?
True.
I don't remember.
You tell me.
Yeah.
I think it's just the car is just not as, I mean, the
lack of yellows has been, the lack of like natural
yellows has been a thing for 25 years.
It's not, I mean, some years there's a little more,
a little less, whatever, but 2012.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you go back to 2002, 2004, we started
having less yellows.
We started having less engine failures.
We started having less guys running over each
other accidentally spinning out on their own by
themselves.
Cars got more downforce.
Cars got more grip for the cars got easier to drive.
You know, I think if I think if you had a driver
coming here and sit down and give you give us
their honest opinion, they would say that, you
know, the guys aren't going to bust their ass
driving these cars.
When we first introduced the next gen, you had a
lot of failures, tire failures.
You had a lot of guys busting their ass over
correcting, crashing into the wall.
You had all kinds of things, but they've made
them better.
They figured them out.
They've gotten more stability.
They've given the drivers what they've asked
for and that's a good car.
And when they've got all got really pretty
decent solid race cars out there, they can
get them to the finish line.
Right?
That's your job.
Your job is to get it to the finish line without
doing something stupid.
I don't really know what the answer is.
The engines are bulletproof for the most
part.
There's not a lot of part failures.
There's not a lot of little nuance.
You know, you said one or two a weekend.
Yeah.
And it doesn't I'm not talking about just
breaking rods and breaking cans.
I'm saying like there's all the little
things like the oil systems in the engines
and then the cars, all that stuff has been
science out to perfection.
And they have spent millions of dollars
developing all this technology on these
cars that cannot fail.
And they don't.
They don't fail.
They don't.
Yeah, you're not going to have like a oil
pump break and starve the engine of oil
and break it like you used to have in
the, you know, in the 2000s or 90s
or 80s, you're not going to have
fan belts flying off and breaking
power steering pumps and things.
You know, we used to have guys that would
say natural failures.
What happened, man?
Oh, fan belt came off.
Yeah.
And the water pump seized up.
This happened.
That happened.
And it was common.
It was common.
Common.
Yeah.
We don't have that no more.
Yeah.
And so, you know,
you know what's incredible to me is
watching like that last lap with Tyler.
You go back and watch the Zane car.
The amount of speed that he carries
to catch when I looked down on the
start finish line and we're running
six, seven, something like that.
And I looked at the lead Larson had.
I thought Larson had the race in the
bag and then the amount of speed and
throttle that Tyler can carry in that
car around the bottom.
Oh my gosh.
I can't believe it.
Like it's incredible.
I couldn't believe he drove in there
like he did and got, he almost cleared
him in one and two from like, when
they went by the start finish line,
he was like five, seven car lengths
back and almost clears Larson
through one and two.
And then it was like an incredible move.
And there's a lot of people that
think that there's some sort of
conspiracy just because the guys
went on a lot of races.
That's not, that's not happening.
Um, there's no way in hell.
NASCAR would do.
I know.
I just got to say, I know people
out there that really truly believe
this there's no way in hell that
NASCAR would risk the integrity of
the entire sport.
Everything they've built, everything
that the sport is hinging on.
And for what?
What does it reward them?
Yeah, what are they getting?
What are they getting out of it?
So it's also would be really hard
to pull off even.
Let's say they wanted to.
It is.
Yeah, there would be so many people
that would be in on this.
And I'm talking about people that
are making making a base salary.
You think that guy gives a, you
know, he's the one keeping the secret.
I'm sure Rick Hendrick signed off
on this one.
Yeah, I'm good with 26.
Hey, Kyle, we're going to need
you to lift a little bit one and
two is a Tyler compassion.
Make it look good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Well, it's, uh, you know,
some people out there really think
it, um, it is everywhere coincidence.
It is the craziest coincidence for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, a few, like Tyler's wins.
They have just a lot, like three of
them have lined up Atlanta lined up
perfectly.
Yeah, they tone to 500 lined up
perfectly.
Yeah.
And this is the same thing.
He got a run.
It lines up just right.
They've just, they've got speed
right now.
Darlington, they were, I mean,
they've got speed.
They've got fast cars.
He's like 189 laps.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Tyler's just making things
are working out right for him.
You don't even know what he,
he's not doing anything different
right now than he was probably
a year ago.
That's right.
And it's just working out.
So good.
I mean, good for them.
Yeah.
I'm, uh, I'm, I wonder how long
they can sustain the, the success
before, you know, another team
or another organization, um, gets
up in there and starts, starts
having that type, similar type
success, but, uh,
it's just evolving all the time.
Yeah.
Five wins, nine starts.
It's crazy.
It's insane.
No stage wins.
We've seen it before.
Good time to be negotiating.
Rare.
It's very rare, but it's, uh,
you know, yeah, it is, it is
interesting, but I don't, I
mean, are they cheating?
I don't think that they're
cheating more than anyone else.
Everyone cheats.
Everyone.
I mean, there, there are all
now that there's probably no,
I don't think there's blatant,
like pure illegal parts anymore
at the cup level.
I just don't think there are.
Um, not like there used to be.
No.
NASCAR's done a really good job
of being able to kind of make
the, the way the car's built,
put together, bought, made.
It's, it's, it's really hard
for teams to, it's hard for
teams to make a part that's
not the part and get away with
it and every, but everyone
in the garage is pushing
everything to and beyond some
limits and working in a lot
of gray areas and they're
doing, they're doing it better
than anybody else.
I mean, you hear after every race
the crew chief telling the
driver go pick up some rubber
and they know that the,
because the tolerance is so
small.
That's right.
And so Tyler and his team
are, they're not going to
races and dominating.
They're going to races
and they're running into top
five and then when some
goes down at the end,
they're there, he's the
kind of guy that's going to
fire, fire off and get up on
the wheel and make something
pretty impressive happen.
Like briscoe briscoe was pretty
far back on that last green
white checker.
And where did he restart?
Do you know?
He restarted like in 11,
I was going to say 10th and
but he was, I was either
first on four tires.
He was and he got up to
what he get to third.
Yeah.
I mean, that's pretty good.
Meanwhile, briscoe dropped to
20th, but you just said
briscoe dropped to
start bell bell.
He got hit.
Yeah, he got ran into the
wall.
That's another thing.
Like there's a lot of
contact there late in the
race.
Those Toyotas, they don't
they get into each other.
Discriminate.
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Did you think
Denny wants this thing
about Cobbless to go away?
He's ready for that?
Probably.
Go away.
I'd say so.
You were with him
yesterday
talking about it
a little bit more?
I mean, we really didn't like
talk about it.
He mentioned it like,
I know Kyle's been talking about it.
I honestly don't think
Kyle has watched the entire
13 minutes.
No.
He's going to watch 13 minutes of that.
Kyle's not going to watch 13 minutes of that.
I'll bet you
$100,000 his ass
ain't watched to 13 minutes of it.
If anything,
he heard,
he probably
in the way
the way this world works,
he probably got a text from somebody.
He got told about it.
Hey, you guys talking shit about you.
And then he goes to the race track
and the media asks him about it.
And he goes,
mother,
talking about me.
I'd swap cars with him any day.
You know,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so Kyle's like,
you know,
that's kind of how it probably happened.
But hey,
it's good for the sport.
Yeah.
I guess.
I
Yeah.
I mean,
I don't know,
man.
It's just
it's odd to watch
watch them struggle the way they have.
Jim went over there from here
to be the crew chief.
They came out of the gate with
with a great performance and qualified at a tona.
And,
you know,
it's kind of been tough ever since.
Well,
all the while,
Austin Dillon,
you know,
is kind of,
you know,
running where's Austin?
He's he's
he actually,
I don't think he qualifies great.
He doesn't qualify great.
And he doesn't.
They've not been great.
RCR,
RCR is not good right now.
They're just not,
you know,
it's okay to say that.
It's fair judgment.
It's fair criticism.
But Austin Dillon will,
if Austin Dillon's car's a f***ing 18th place car,
he seems to kind of get home and 18th.
I feel like Austin's been anywhere between 10th and 15th a lot.
Yeah.
Just not noticeable,
but just kind of there.
I know.
I agree.
And Kyle
keeps having problems every week.
You know,
I think they would probably run just as good as Austin.
If they weren't having the issues.
Yeah.
I don't know what that is,
but
it's
Kyle is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Dude is still a badass race car driver
and he's just not having a good time right now.
No.
Yeah.
And it's hard for Kyle to go and
when the car is not running good,
like you said,
if you have an 18th place car,
you can't just run 10th with it.
Look,
and I'll be honest.
Um,
a long time ago,
there was a bit of a spat between me and him
that was kind of ongoing
and every week in the media,
the media would go to him or go to me
and try to get a sound like
and I was struggling with Lance and
and we were
between,
you know,
between crew chiefs
and he said to the media said,
it's never the crew chief's fault
or it's never Dale's fault.
It's always,
you know,
it's always the crew chiefs.
Never Dale's fault.
Is it,
you know,
it's a really shit thing.
And I mean,
it's kind of what he's dealing with now.
You know,
and
it's very similar.
It's very,
it is.
It is very similar.
He's in a,
he's in a bad spot.
He's in a car that ain't going
and
he's running better.
His teammates doing better.
Yeah.
Or finishing,
you know,
running the right,
you know,
getting the better results.
But to Kyle's credit,
when I listened to the radio
from where,
from what I have heard,
Kyle has
is
remained
relatively professional.
I agree.
Yeah,
I would say more than I would have probably expected.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So now there's other things happening on Channel 2
between the spotter and the crew chief that are strange
because you would think you would get that kind of
from the driver,
but the driver's actually the one that sounds the most
professional out of the three, right?
Because on Channel 2,
the
what you talked about this,
the crew,
the crew chiefs and the drivers will go to Channel 2
and say all kinds of
crew chief and spotter.
Sorry,
spotter.
The crew chief and spotter will go to channel 2
and they,
they,
there's no filter over there.
They just say whatever the hell's on their mind.
You can't do that anymore.
All their frustrations.
You can't do it.
You can't?
No.
That's not happening on other radios anymore?
No.
It's everything's
recorded on there.
Even like when people listen,
it's like,
if you're listening on the app or something,
it plays Channel 1 and Channel 2.
Like it doesn't,
doesn't separate them.
So
people will be like,
I heard this and I'm like,
that wasn't on Channel 1,
but it won't be,
you just can't say anything.
Yeah.
Not like we used to.
Well,
what?
Ends up happening.
Cowbush ends up.
Getting an opportunity that gets him.
Gets him back toward the front of the field.
Hope so,
but where would where would you?
I would.
I just got a weird feeling he's going to end up
inspired for some reason.
So that's the team that's got some speed.
He's driven there.
He's won there.
He's one of their trucks and stuff.
So,
yeah,
and they would probably absolutely take him.
Well, him and Jeff Jacobson have a past as well.
A good one.
Jeff's spotter for him.
I hear when you say somebody has a past,
it sounds negative.
No, good.
I mean, they have a relationship.
All right.
I didn't know if they had an argument.
I didn't know they have a good relationship.
No.
No, I would.
I could see him getting over there.
I think that he ends up getting in a decent car
by before it's all said and done.
Like he's not going to,
it's not,
he's not going to drive cars.
He's not going to drive cars that are underperforming
for the rest of his career.
He's going to get in something.
He's going to find his way back to the front.
He's going to have a couple moments of,
all right,
I still can do this proven it,
proven it to himself and the rest of the world that he's,
you know,
as good as he's always been or he's as talented as he's
always been.
But,
you know,
those the times time and hour glass is running out.
Father times undefeated,
all that stuff.
But I believe it happens and it could be,
I mean,
obviously it could be next year.
He's not got a long-term deal at RCR that I know of.
I think he's up this year.
That's what I was aware of.
I mean,
that is the story moving forward,
right?
And I believe that that's what happens in,
you know,
in the summer.
We think TJ,
when do we start here?
When do we start?
When does the media start really covering this part?
I feel like this year might be a little earlier.
I do feel like there's a handful of drivers like Kyle
that are,
that are up for contract and,
yep.
Who else?
Pockers tweeted.
I didn't give names,
but he said there's close to 20 drivers that have contracts up.
So,
Interesting.
Well,
I do agree that with Kyle though.
It seems like,
I feel like that was kind of what people thought before
could happen.
And now it's probably going to,
it's probably going to be another,
you know,
I mean,
I do,
I do think it's a good fit for him too,
but yeah.
Well,
it'd be interesting to that guy that's got all the money
over there track or not track house,
but it's fire where I mean,
he he might pay Kyle,
what Kyle's looking to make,
right?
To to to move on to a different program.
He might,
that would be maybe where he could land the contract
financially that he's looking for and a fast,
a relatively fast car and the car that can run top 10
and give Kyle some opportunities and some wins.
And it gives him,
I feel like that gives him,
he does like to run the other series like trucks
and stuff and that gives him some opportunity.
Well,
he's talked about running,
driving our stuff.
He wants to come race our cars.
Oh,
there you go.
Because he wants to get back to Victor Lane,
but
and that moving to Spire would present some
avenues where that could that could be a possibility.
He just wants to rent cars into.
I'm just kidding.
You don't like them cup guys.
No,
I don't mind the cup guys.
Well,
am I concerned?
Here's another note.
What's what's a am I concerned about intermediate tracks
not being entertaining enough?
Not really.
They've been kind of the bread and butter for the next gen car
and until we have us until we have two,
three,
four of them in a row where they're not all that fun to watch
or then then we've got them.
We've got a conversation to have,
but it's just this was one.
Canes of seven now and then has a race like this
and
it's okay.
Yeah,
it's okay.
So not too worried about it.
Now,
if we go to Charlotte for the 600 and who it's a long snoozer
now we got issues.
Yeah,
they will have to have a conversation.
What makes it not a snoozer?
Well,
I mean,
you're going to have very similar racing.
Yeah.
Yep.
I mean,
you know,
you just you want them.
You want a guy that can pass drive through the field.
You want something to talk about a guy coming up to the fact
through the pack,
somebody that he's going to arrive toward the front and
will he be able to go up there and take the race away from
whoever's got it under control?
And
let me ask you this.
So we were having
there was a lot of talk about there was a lot of people
wearing their tires out by like lap 35 35 was like pretty far.
Yeah,
but it happened to be 35 was almost.
It was a little short.
I think the stage was 90 maybe.
So it's almost right in the middle.
So what guys were doing is they're just splitting it a
little bit.
Yeah.
What happens if you can go?
Most of the fuel run like we used to like we used to run
to things out of gas when pit, right?
We'd almost pit like we only got five laps.
If let's pit now we're just
cutting in half and pitting.
Well, we want the tires to wear,
but do you think
if we got rid of the stage break?
That they would run or you know, people would stretch
it out more.
I mean, they'll run till they feel like they either need
tires or fuel.
Yeah.
Right.
I guess I'm, I don't know.
I feel like right.
I feel like every time we get to the point where guys
start really fighting the cars like cause guys are
starting to really struggle right before they would
pit at like 35 is like 35.
So, okay.
That's to
to answer the question.
I think you would need to say if they don't have
the caution, right?
Yeah.
But they award the stage points.
Sure.
Would you not steal?
Maybe
you would run that
you would run to get those points
the best way possible, which is probably steal by
cutting it in half.
You're going to have to if you stay out there and bleed
lap time to the guys that do cut it in half, right?
Sure.
Yeah, that's right.
Then when you cross the line and those points are
awarded, right?
You want to, you're giving your, you're trying
to get them, right?
Because we're always going to go for them points.
I know if you're in a position to go for, right?
If you're not, then maybe you do something
different.
Well, that's what I'm saying though.
Those guys, you're going to have the top seven or
eight, maybe seven, probably take all them stage
points, but what if you have the guys that run
up?
They make one less stop.
You know what I mean?
Or, you know, they can they, I just think it
open.
I mean, you're going to have to, if you keep
short pitting, if I can run 80 laps and you
can run 30, the entire race went under green.
I'm just saying it definitely gives different
strategies more of an option though.
Doesn't it?
It's yeah, it opens it up a little bit.
I suppose what's wrong with track house is
the next note.
Look, I didn't write this one, Justin.
Justin Mark says, I mean Bristol was one of
those races and one of those weekends where you
just got to zoom out a little bit.
You got to realize we're in a building phase
right now.
We're working hard.
We got some highlights from the weekend, but
ultimately at the end of the day, it was a
tough race, tough results and just another
step in the process of rebuilding the race
team.
Chastain.
He said that this past off season was the
biggest change that he's had to deal with.
Changes in what?
Rebuilding his own crew chief and just a little
bit of everything.
Yeah.
Look, I mean,
track house came in when the new next gen car
was developed and raced.
They were able to smartly take advantage of
everyone else's inexperience with the car, be
competitive, win some races, put themselves in
a great position as a company to be successful.
They they've lost a step for sure of the last
two or three years now.
Shane's come in and won some races for him at
the road courses and whatnot.
And see, I feel like last year was a really
successful year for Ross.
Well, take out the road courses though.
Ross had a big night at the 600.
But I mean, yeah, they
they have they went from a team that was
running top 10 felt like they were running
top 10 regularly.
We talked about Shane a lot.
Well, I'm saying way back when the next
gen just came out.
Now they're a team that pops off a great run.
Like they they they can show up at Charlotte
like they did last year and win the race
and you'd be like here or here.
Yeah, it's either they're either fifth or 25.
They ever hit it that the set up or they don't
and
yeah, that's hard to that's hard to
that's got to be tough.
I think for a company to understand,
OK, how are we doing that?
How what is happening when we're landing on
what we need to be doing?
And then we're not near it the next week.
The there's no obvious things staring them in
the face.
That's saying, hey, here's the problem.
And so that's got to be frustrating and
difficult for a team right now.
Ross is 20th in points.
Shane is 18th.
Shane is steadily sliding down the rankings
after having a pretty solid start of the year.
And and Suarez, who is no longer with you is
outperforming Suarez is doing well over at
the he's 16th in points.
They didn't get rid of Daniel because he
couldn't do the job.
I mean, Daniel's Daniel's an
accomplished driver and pretty solid talent.
They just had.
Connor coming up with generational talent.
You know, you're gambling on Connor being
that, you know, the next great thing.
And after coming out of a successful season,
like you had in the rally series last year,
where is Connor and the point?
He's he's down there pretty good.
Remember, we had the conversation.
Does he make it to the top 20 or whatever
about a month or two ago?
I don't think I don't think you do.
But back to, I think, obviously,
they knew what they're banking on,
kind of being, you know, future,
but Suarez outracing Ross is a issue.
That is.
Yeah.
I mean, look, it is reality of the situation.
This is a tough, tough sport.
It's competitive.
That's Connor's told us that.
He's like, man, you know, come up here.
There ain't no days off.
There ain't no laps off.
There ain't no corners off.
It's the grinding.
These guys race the out of you,
whether you're running 30th or or third.
And he's right.
You know, you go into the you go to the rally series.
No disrespect to anybody in that series,
but everybody's on a different agenda.
Right.
There's teams out there.
They're like, man, you know, we just going to try to get this thing home.
We can't tear this thing up.
We got to finish top 20.
You know, come on top 25, which is no, no donuts.
You know, there's a lot of that going on.
Guys out there just trying to make a living.
It also seems with the cup and I may be wrong.
It feels like guys are getting out of the car more often this year than
passing going, we just didn't have her.
We missed it.
It just seems like there's more variables that teams are dealing with.
Well, it's it's morphed more into F one style where it's like this
organization has has the speed, right?
Yeah.
And so, you know, you if you're in an organization that's
struggling, you show up and you feel like, you know, chances
are you're not going to have seen a ton of progress in the last five
days, you're going to show up to the racetrack and struggle.
And if you're a 15th place car, you're going to be a 15th place
car most weekends.
Yeah.
Denny said that 50% of the car, whatever you bring to the track is
whatever you got, you can't fix that.
So if you get there with 30%, there's 20% that you're at best
you're going to get to 80%.
Yeah.
I agree with a lot of that right now, which is also why we talked
about, I know you can't change a lot in practice, but I think
if you had a couple of different practice sessions, maybe you could
do more to the cars and like, like Denny is fortunate, all the
good, all the really, you know, the Gibbs cars, Hendry cars,
they show up and they're within, they're really close.
You know, sometimes the other teams don't show up that close.
They can't show up as close.
So sometimes I feel like a little more practice would get
some of them closer at times.
Yeah.
But he's right.
I mean, it's hard.
You don't fix a lot of it, but in the, what do they give us?
25, whatever minute, 50 minute practice, 225 minute practice
or 220 minute practice or whatever it is.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like, you know, teams, teams are going to have some
tough, teams are going to struggle and right now track
house is one that's definitely trying to turn things around
a little bit.
It's interesting.
Um, Justin used the term rebuild a couple of different
times and you know, you don't, you don't often rebuild isn't
a NASCAR term NASCAR term, you know, but apparently they've
they've decided to shuffle the deck a little bit this off
season.
Chastain saying a lot of big change and that might take
some time to net out because you think about it.
Uh, Ross is a new crew chief.
Connors crew chief is new.
I don't know about SVG.
So there's, I mean, all sorts of stuff that they're moving
around.
Yeah.
I don't think SVG is having a terrible year by any means,
but he's definitely, he's the highest one in points.
Yeah.
I mean, I think he's, he started out the year really good.
Uh, last couple of weeks have been tough, but yeah.
And he, I mean, I watched his qualifying lap.
I mean, he was, he was almost wide over.
He tried to hold a wide open.
Like he was like no lack of effort.
Yeah.
Talladega this weekend.
I'm going to go over to, uh, the cars tour race and hang out.
Where's it at?
It is in Caraway.
I'm going to go try to, uh, just kind of watch and observe
and, and help the series best I can.
Um, while you guys go to Talladega.
Yeah.
There's also a, um, Chicago test going on.
At the, yeah, go in today or today and tomorrow.
Is that right?
Mm hmm.
I'll be curious to, um, to hear about how they feel
about the bump in over the tunnel in three and four.
That was very, very severe.
Uh, and we haven't run the next gen car there.
Yeah.
Right.
And so trying to get across that is going to be real
handful for a lot of teams.
How big of advantage is it for the guys?
I know Danny's one of them.
That's going to be at that test going to attract that massive.
Cause I'm telling you, you.
So this car with the, uh, this car with the underbody,
it's really important to try to figure out how to get
that car down on the ground as close as possible.
Um, and create as much downforce as you can and have the
platform, the pitch of the nose up down, ass down, get
that thing really doing what it needs to do.
But you also got to go across one of the, this is going
to be a top three in terms of severity, a top three bump down
in the middle of three and four.
And you've got to get the car on the ground, but get across
a bump, right?
And not drag this, you know, drag the bottom of the race car
off.
And so who the guy, the teams that don't get to go to do
the tests are going to show up during for the race weekend
and have to figure this out in a real short period of time.
While the teams that are at the test are going to get to
science this out and really narrow in on where they need
that car to be for the driver to be comfortable.
It's a big advantage, huge advantage and they get.
So it's, it's, uh, Kyle Larson, Denny Hamlin, Ryan Blaney
and the O'Reilly teams that are there would be Justin,
Algar and Brandon Jones.
So the teams that are there are going to be able to bring
home all kinds of great information, data and all types
of things that are going to help them run SIM and all
kinds of programs to be able to help all of their drivers
and teams make a, make the best guess on kind of how to
start the weekend.
The other teams that don't have this information are
going to have to show up with a, uh, trying to hit
a moving target, you know, should we have a test like
this at a track that none of them been to?
Yeah, I think you have to test the tire to make sure
the tire is going to be able to hold up.
It's a very abrasive weight.
So it's really abrasive.
This race track is extremely abrasive and now that we
haven't ran on it for several years, it's increased
dramatically probably in times, in terms of abrasiveness
and how it's going to wear the tires.
So what's probably going to happen is, uh, I've seen
this a million times.
They're going to show up to this test.
They're going to, the first set of tires is going
to wear off the car in 10 laps and they're, and
Goodyear is going to freak.
They're going to put on the hardest set they got
there and that's what you're going to end up testing
the rest of the tests and they're going to figure
out how to make that tire.
They're going to get to where that tire is living
and they're going to go, all right, our work is done.
And yeah, which is, oh, which is fine.
I mean, to have a super, super hard tire, it's
at a very abrasive race track like that.
It's probably what you have to have, but it
I'll be surprised if they are aggressive and we
show back up and we're having tire issues, but
we, it's, it's, it's absolutely possible.
I think if it's a new track, every team should have
the option.
I should say tire wear issues.
There's more than likely going to be some teams
that are going to gamble on air pressure and with
this bump, you could get yourself into some
trouble there getting too low on air and sent,
you know, putting the tire through too much as
it goes across some of the imperfections on
the surface of the racetrack and then you
might have some guys having some tire issues
in terms of flats that we've seen at the
back of the car, the right front, left front.
So self inflicted a lot of self inflicted.
Yes, but and with that bump, right?
The teams have to be careful about skirting near
that danger zone of low air that could we could
probably see some teams crossover into the
danger zone there and have some issues in
practice and then dial it back out.
And but you know, tire wear or tires like
we had this weekend where you said tires
were wearing out 35 laps and guys were
running through the fabric.
You could see that in the race a little bit,
but I imagine that this tire test,
Goodyear will determine a hard enough tire
that it'll it'll live.
You could this last weekend there was some
of the driver back into play and it like
you could run too hard in the beginning.
Cost yourself on the back end.
You could.
Yes.
Yeah.
Which I love that.
Yeah, I like it too.
Do you think every team should have the
option to test at a new track to
so that there's not an advantage?
I don't see why, you know, you couldn't do that,
but teams have to be expensive for the industry.
What's up to them if they don't want to?
That's easy to say that.
I mean, I I think it should be
if you're going back to a place, give them
the option if you want to go.
Yeah, so tracks open.
Come on.
I mean, yeah, I mean, you love track time.
I mean, I think it's fine.
I think for Chicago with the challenges
that it presents and the advantage
I think that it gives to a team
that does get to test might have been better
to have an open test.
But yeah, I mean, San Diego, everyone's
going there for the first time.
Yeah, clean slate.
No one's been there practice intertesting.
Yeah, that's fair to me.
So you look at team like legacy, no alliance
with JGR twenty three eleven.
So they're going in absolutely blind.
Some of those other same teams.
So that well, I mean, not to don't forget
you got, you know, they can choose,
you know, what info they're going to give
you know what I mean?
Like the teams that have went can
the sky can can determine how much
they share with what they learn.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm guessing, right?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, depends on what your alliance
agreement exactly and how
honored you want to.
That was definitely the case.
Twenty ten years ago, ten years ago
when there's teams that had alliances,
there'd be some, you know,
not all the information would be on the sheet.
How much as a driver?
Do you try to keep instead of sharing
with your teammates?
There's not much from a driver standpoint.
You know, they can see S and T,
all the information data and stuff like that.
But you know, there's some rare moments
or instances where a driver might know
something or understand how to do something
differently around a racetrack.
But it's mostly going to be in that setup sheet.
So there'll be a setup sheet or a book
with all the information of how the cars set
up and all of that information in there
might not be entirely truthful or
maybe they'll have S and P.
Yeah, I'm sure that happens,
especially when teams start competing
with each other as they get closer
to the championship.
Yeah, they don't want to get beat.
You gotta be very protective of it.
They do.
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There was one other topic that I saw that did add.
Did you see the comment from Jeff Probst
about the Riley series?
Oh, boy.
John Probst is NASCAR
EVP.
EVP.
His comment, this is Adam Stern tweet.
And he says, long term,
you see it as we do have the CUV body
that we developed in our electric vehicle.
I'm not sitting here saying today
that we're breaking news.
It's going to CUV.
But there are the things
that are on the road map to consider.
So you have a truck, a CUV, and a cup.
That's three very different bodies
that are relevant to our OEMs today
to create that brand identity for each series.
So he thinks that there's a possibility the
I it's it's my belief.
I'm probably it's my belief
that absolutely the electric car
and that body style and all that is
is something that NASCAR is looking at
is a possibility for the future of the Riley series.
I would say that
the Riley series has got a lot of good things going right now.
Viewership is continuously on the rise
and our our cars.
We can all kind of relate to those cars
when we look at them, when we see them on the race track.
I think I think making a switch to anything
unlike what we have would be a massive, massive mistake
and it would probably be
that that probably be
the end of the
the rise that we're going up right.
Things are going well.
We got a great TV partner.
We we have great numbers.
We got great fan engagement
and I think any kind of a change like that
so dramatic is that would be
would would destroy the series.
As we know it, I would not be interested in that.
I don't think junior motorsports would be interested in that.
I'm certainly not interested in in that car
that body or any of that.
I think they need to leave well enough alone.
Quit fiddling with everything
and having to feel like everything needs to be improved, fixed, changed.
Just the series is doing really good.
There is an issue in terms of parts and pieces
are are the parts and pieces that we use
aren't in aren't manufactured in manufacturer.
They're not being developed or made at a rate that
the series can sustain itself.
What I would love for them to do
and this is a big conversation to have,
but what I would love for them to do with the O'Reilly car
is take that nine inch forward rear end
out of the car that we're running
and make me a modern version of that.
Take all the front suspension off of our car
and make me a more modern version of that.
Not an over-engineered hub or rear end
like we got in the current cup car.
I don't want any of that that's in the current cup car.
I don't want no influence at all
that the current cup car has.
I don't want any of the parts.
I don't want the bolt-on front and rear clip.
I don't want none of that.
I want if you want to do anything to the O'Reilly series,
take that take the parts that are in short supply
and let's figure out how to make a more a newer modern
take on that specific part,
whether it's ball joints, different things like that
that are that are, you know,
when our cup teams moved away from this technology,
the people that made it don't have,
there's not a demand this series and so forth.
There's not enough demand, I suppose,
to be able to continue to make a lot of the parts
and things are just getting tougher and tougher to get.
And so
I would just think about how we take what's working.
This is working. This series is working.
This series is working the way it is.
So if we need if we need anything,
we need to try to figure out how to, you know,
keep this thing going the way it's going.
And I don't know.
I think I don't I don't love the idea or the thought
of the the city, the series changing vehicles
and wouldn't want to be.
I don't know how to say it.
I just wouldn't be interested in that.
I agree with you.
Yeah, I think I wonder if this is his child balloon.
I don't think they've been thinking about it,
but it's like, let's put this out there and.
Man, I don't know, man.
There's some conversations that the series has to have
with with itself, the owners, the
NASCAR, all the executives and so forth.
And I honestly feel like that those conversations
are long overdue and we need to be having them today
because I don't think the series owners are
as excited about that idea as he may be.
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All right, so we got our race winner calling in.
Tyler Redick is back again.
It's just a co-host at this point.
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Changing the name of the show.
Yeah.
So Tyler Redick,
I mean, there's only a few questions that I need answers to,
one of them being,
how do you drive down into the corner of that deep?
No one else seems to be able to be, you know, be able to
make that car perform the way you did this past weekend.
Was it a, did you think in your mind like,
I'm just gonna send it in there and see what happens?
Or did you just have that much confidence in the car from all,
how it ran most of the day?
I mean, you were having some trouble there toward the end,
getting in the wall a little bit.
It's a few issues, but
I mean, you just,
you're full committed down into turn three
and
it was a beautiful thing.
What's your thoughts about when you go back and watch that?
You know, in hindsight,
and especially after, you know, watching the replay,
you know,
it looked like a real power move, but honestly,
I think it just really shows how off, you know, the five was.
For whatever reason, man, I mean, he was able to, you know,
make the right move on Denny on the restart, get to the lead.
But, I mean, in clean air like that,
you know, clear sail, if you will, down into the corner
and not have the run that he did off the corner and me to have the run that I did
off the corner was odd to me.
But yeah, like, I mean, I was far enough back.
TJ, you know this, like,
there's more than that. There should have been more than enough time for him to cover that move.
Dude, when I looked down at the start finish line,
I looked down and saw the gap because we're racing for six fifths,
something like that. And I saw the gap and I'm like, damn,
if I was going to win this race and I look, I look up and I'm like,
how did this just happen?
Yeah, it was, I mean, I drove it down in there pretty normal.
Well, I mean, we're first time on two tires all day, but you know,
about what you would expect the grip to be able to take.
And I mean, I just, I cut it to the bottom and I mean,
I would imagine if he could have, he would have covered it.
I think he just got tight or just was tight.
You know what I mean? I believe even said that post race, you know,
whether you look at how Denny attacked the corner racing even the 19,
the 19 alongside him. I mean, yeah, I mean,
I think more than anything, Kyle's balance just wasn't there that last,
that last restart. I mean, he made the right move to get the lead,
but his car wasn't underneath him.
And that just kind of helped make me look like, like a superhero there.
And you know, if anything, once I saw it, you know,
he was having those handling issues, right?
I knew that I just needed to make a smart move, you know,
just stay alongside into three and most more likely,
I was more than likely I was going to clear him on the bottom
because I made up that much ground in the last corner.
So yeah, just very fortunate that someone who's really,
really hard to to pass was just really,
really boxed in with what he had left for balance.
You know, what did you send Cody where?
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I need something.
What did you think?
What did you think in three and four when you saw that spin?
Cause I know it was right in front of you.
You saw the smoke and, and I do believe that the caution,
I mean, he started coming back up the track and I understand the
reason for the caution at that point. But I mean,
that was kind of had to be like, cause Danny had just gotten around you
and I feel like he was in position to probably win the race.
At that point.
Yeah. No, he had, he, I mean, I, I was going to try and get
something back to him, but it was pretty wild.
I passed him first time all day, started to lose some rear grip.
Just soon as I passed him, it's like, oh, I hit the light switch.
And now what do I do?
And yeah, it was going to be really hard for me to do anything
with him with one to go.
Then he kind of found something he had left. I don't know.
Just like he raced bubble last year.
We come off too and we make contact and I was like, oh no.
Oh yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like the five comes up, which he should, I mean, he's clear to
the wall and the five comes up and Denny loses nose a little
bit. I'm trying to just, you know, in my mind to answer
your question, what do I think when I see the caution is
crazy as it may sound, you know, I end up winning this race,
right?
But in my mind, I'm like, great.
We got an overtime restart.
What, what's going to happen, you know?
You got to come down.
Yeah.
Winning the race.
But at the same time, it's like, man, I really just want
to get out of here in one piece as well.
Yeah.
I think we're all like that when that comes out.
You know, it's just like, man, just don't take any
huge risks on the restart.
And that's when, I mean, I got tied into one when we
were three wide.
Um, and I allowed Christopher, he's my outside.
And it's like, in a different, you know, winning your
in format, I'm probably more aggressive and shutting off
Christopher and just not letting him get to my outside.
But at that point it's like, let's just, let's just get
out of here and survive.
Right.
And then we get off to and Denny gets tight, gets into
me and then I go flying up track into Christopher.
So if you take that away from, from Bell, does he,
does Denny clear you on the bottom?
You know what I mean?
Does that make it?
Cause I see a lot of that when guys slide up in one and two
and block the third lane, the bottom clears.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I think for me, I was just, you know, trying
to run as the less, the least amount of distance
possible.
Yeah.
Um, once I knew we were three wide, I was trying
to just be respectful.
I mean, again, we're battling for the win, but I'm
as much as it may sound like me, I don't want
to rack and, um, just trying to give them room
and yeah, just it kind of looked like looking back
at it.
The 11 was close enough to my left rear and then
the Christopher was close enough to my right rear,
just those two cars on both ends, um, of me, not
alongside, but just close enough.
Like, I mean, I got tied.
I had to have a big lift.
So, um, it's one of those things.
Maybe if I would have just been up the track more,
um, I would have got a little bit of pushoff
from Christopher and maybe I would be able to run.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's so hard to say.
What does it feel like in the car, when that
guy gets inside you and they start pushing up
and they get into your door?
Cause that seems to have more of effect than
obviously getting right on behind somebody
out of the corner, doesn't do anything for the
car in front.
But when somebody gets inside you and they
start coming up, I see a lot of people lifting
off a turn to the outside car main a lot
because does that guy just, does it just
push your car up?
I mean, it's insane.
It, I mean, in some ways it's, it's like
you're right up the back bumper of another
car and, you know, they cross your way.
Can you just lose the nose?
It, it literally feels like someone is
just shoving you to the right.
Yeah.
It takes off so, um, abruptly and violently.
Um, yeah.
And so I mean, it's powerful if you can time
it and use it to your advantage.
Um, you know, it's a really effective tool
when you're racing other cars.
And unfortunately, like what would happen to
us on that, that final restart, you
know, it was kind of just chain reaction.
Denny got tight.
I got tight and, you know, Chris forgot
smoke.
So it happens very, very fast.
I mean, that's just kind of the nature of
the next gen car.
Honestly, everything that we were kind of
used to is drivers in the gen six car,
the tendencies of the arrow side.
Um, you know, whether it's getting loose
or getting tight in traffic.
Um, everything is just sped up
exponentially with the next gen car.
Do you see a lot of guys out there
still struggling with that after all this time?
I mean, we've had the next gen car for several years
and I do watch new drivers
come out of the O'Reilly series and get in that car
and I watched them find themselves in situations
where the air goes completely the opposite
of what they expect.
They, you know, they put themselves,
you and I watch, you know, I watch guys
that have been driving this car for six years.
You know, heading into the next corner
where you don't want to end up arrow wise,
right?
And so you all are searching for a place
for you to be and be comfortable.
And we see a lot of guys
kind of struggle with that for a while
when they get in that car for the first time
and go out there and race it.
Do you still see people
that have been in this car for several years
still kind of struggling
to know where to put this car
and where to be in comfortable places
in terms of arrow?
I feel like that really,
in my opinion, I think that shows up
even more when you have an ill handling car.
When your car is handling
and doing what it should,
you kind of know what it's going to do
given those circumstances
so you know how to adjust.
I feel like where it gets tough
is when you have a really loose handling car
and the rear of the car is just not,
you can't trust it.
You know, just what this car does
when you're offset right,
offset left in traffic,
when you have the, you know,
when you lose the air behind somebody
and then you get it all back
and the thing snaps loose.
I mean, to some degree,
I feel like it's,
you do see that,
but I feel like more times than not,
that is,
a lot of it seems to be the case,
in my opinion, when drivers
are just having,
or just finding a really ill handling car
or the tires have really gone away.
I feel like, you know,
when the right rear wears out
or the rear's,
you just overheat your tires.
That stuff really shows up more
because this car just becomes
that much more unpredictable.
It is glued to the racetrack
for a lot of laps.
And when the tires wear out like that
and get to that point,
it's no longer glued to the racetrack.
So now it's just exponentially losing grip.
So I think that gets shown up.
My opinion shows up more
when a car's handling is really
gone to the wayside.
Do you guys understand
what might have been going on
with the fuel there
toward the end of the race?
That was something I never really...
Definitely weren't low on fuel.
Right.
I was just talking to,
to my fueler Brian Deal about it.
He was like, you know,
thanks for throwing me under the bus.
I'm like, man, that wasn't my intention.
I know as a driver, again,
in the lead, but, you know,
going into three there
when I drove it straight in the fence,
which was not cool.
But I mean,
I'm trying to figure out
if I need to pit or not.
You know what I mean?
Literally trying to win this race,
but my mind,
because of points is like,
I do not want to run out of fuel
and not finish this race.
Like you don't want to...
I'm good with it.
I'll pit.
I'll take it.
Drive by pit entry,
run out of gas.
It's the end of the front straightaway.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so,
yeah, it's just...
I mean,
I haven't got the official word back
from the folks at Toyota Racing
or TRD,
but,
yeah, it just seems like the pump,
from my understanding,
the pump just failed.
Wow.
It happened on the front stretch.
So I'd flip the switch
to go to,
you know,
the secondary, if you will.
And,
yeah, I mean,
I was going down the back
just trying to understand,
you know, I mean,
I feel like you're,
you know,
if it's out of fuel,
you're typically not going to get a lot,
a fuel left
when it goes to it.
So I was just trying to understand
what our situation was.
And I think into three,
Billy told me,
you know,
we're plenty good on fuel.
It shouldn't be that.
I just, you know,
wasn't focused going into three.
Like I said,
the handling had gone away a little bit,
kind of had trusted,
had a car that I could trust
back in the car all day long.
And just got a little loose,
you know, these cars
that the super high fast race,
high speed racetracks like Kansas,
somehow homestead it kind of works,
but like place like Kansas, man,
you get too close to the wall,
the car just loses grip
and you get sucked in the wall
and you crash.
So just a mistake on my part.
Could you notice at Kansas,
like you could,
you could,
you could hurt the tires and,
and, you know,
I don't know what your tire wear was,
but yeah,
I mean, um,
I don't know how much it was touched on,
uh, in the broadcast,
but we were running,
uh, running third,
comfortably in third.
I think we were somewhat
closing in on the five.
I think Denny was leading that first stage
and the five had gotten by us.
Um,
we were within range to like,
maybe battle the five for,
for second in the stage
and about
three or four laps to go.
The thing just kind of took off
tight.
And I was like,
I don't know what to do.
I was like,
I don't know what to do.
I wasn't really near anybody.
I didn't make a mistake.
Um,
and then like,
I just thankfully
80%
the car into the next corner
and it went all the way up
and dang near smoke defense.
I'm like, oh, we got,
you know,
we had high recording issues then.
I think about eight seconds.
Um,
but that was a little bit longer run
compared to the first one.
Right.
That was a little bit longer.
Uh,
probably in stage.
Yeah.
You probably come between 30 and 35
and
then the second stage
and 15 laps longer
on the second set.
Yeah.
But yeah,
I mean,
you know,
as much as that costs us time
and it kept us from being able
to like,
you know,
battle with those guys on pit road
at the stage in
to try and jump them on pit road.
Um,
it was honestly kind of a blessing
in disguise
because it really helped me
understand.
Okay.
We've,
I was kind of in this spot
where I wanted to free up,
but I didn't want to
all of a sudden have loose
balance migration in the run.
But I mean,
we're recording the right front.
So it's like,
we're free up and just
find a way to make it work
and it helped us get faster
throughout the day.
So in some ways,
that tire issue for us
that we survived
got us in the direction
of getting faster
throughout the day
and,
and then being able to,
you know,
close in on the,
on the 11 and last run,
which as we found out
when I got to lead
was just a little too loose.
But,
yeah,
we go into Talladega,
um,
with,
with the new system
and how this is playing out,
the new point system.
Is there,
is there any of,
uh,
is there any different emotion
going into a race
like Talladega?
Um,
is there a different game plan,
a different attitude,
approach personality
that you take to this race,
um,
with,
with the point system
the way it is today?
I don't think so.
Um,
you know,
like season long,
right,
um,
finishing these races
is more important.
But I feel like race
to race
the mindset
that I,
I found in 2024,
I've had it other times,
like even running trucks
and in different formats
and whatnot.
Like I feel like race to race,
um,
I've had a pretty good mindset
when it comes to speedways.
One thing that we weren't able
to tip our,
you know,
put our hat on anything
out of 2025,
but one of those things
that we could do that with
was that we scored more points
at anybody at the speedway,
super speedway races.
So that was telling us like,
all right,
time in and time out,
we're like,
we're,
we're staying out of the trouble,
but we're being aggressive enough
to score points,
stage points
and be up there in the mix
at the end of the races.
So, um,
yeah,
I feel like for me,
we just,
you know,
we try and hit the strategy
as best we can.
Um,
now,
I mean,
for sure how that's going to look
this way.
What's your strategy this weekend?
I know,
I know.
I mean,
we've done a good job
of kind of figuring out what it is
and kind of,
I mean,
in a lot of ways,
I don't know,
call me,
but almost got a little stale
because,
you know,
the setups
and how you would approach
each stage
with the lengths and everything
were very similar,
you know,
between Daytona and Talladega.
So you just kind of got used to,
okay,
this is what we're going to do.
And I feel like some of those,
I mean,
I feel like that same fuel saving
strategy is going to take place.
But now the lengths are different.
So like the,
the rhythm,
the routine that you kind of have
and how you approach
the stages
will be different.
Um,
so I'm curious,
I mean,
I feel like,
you know,
the guys that are super
have been really good at it.
Um,
Joey,
Ryan,
um,
Austin,
like the Penske cars always seem
to really be on top of it.
Honestly,
you know,
I feel like RFK is really good
at it too.
So,
and we've kind of been able
to sneak our way in there
into that conversation,
um,
as well
with how we go about it.
So,
it's going to look different,
but I feel like
the,
the teams and drivers
that figure out how to manage
the way to the front.
Is Michael going to be there?
Cause I feel like if he's there,
then we can just know
that you're going to be there
for the win.
I,
uh,
I don't know if he's coming or not.
I,
I guess I'll find out when we get there, Travis.
The,
um,
they did flip the race pretty much
where,
uh,
for the finals,
final two stages,
uh,
you can run those
without
needing to come for fuel.
Um,
do you think
that
will,
the,
that guarantees us
a final stage
where drivers are all out
or will they have
ran the race backwards,
so to speak,
like a road course to where they're still,
you know,
they're still saving fuel
toward those final,
you know,
in that final stage trying,
you know,
cause they've measured it out to end
the land in this spot where they don't have,
you know,
don't have enough fuel to really just
go wide as open the whole final stage.
What do you think?
Yeah,
I,
I do,
you know,
I feel like,
you know,
the teams
or cars that aren't happy
with the position
where they're at,
you know,
in stage two,
I,
I just,
I don't know why you wouldn't try to,
um,
if,
if you're not where you want to be
and you're not going to get the stage points
you want to,
you know,
save.
I mean,
we're going to save,
um,
then they're going to try
and just cut it close.
Take it,
take only what they need.
Yeah.
I mean,
you know,
there's going to be some that do,
but certainly,
I feel like if enough cars get up front
that needs say fuel,
I mean,
they're going to somewhat be able
to kind of control it.
So it's wide open.
I mean,
it could go that way or,
you know,
I mean,
it just,
when we get the cautions,
if there's cautions,
um,
you know,
who's,
who's willing to take that risk,
those sort of things
will really set that up.
I don't see it
being one way or the other.
I,
I do feel like there's going to be
at the front.
And I mean,
we've seen it though,
enough cars get to the front of the field
that need to save that fuel.
There are ways for them to drag the pace down
and keep the track position.
So we'll see how it all plays out, man.
I mean,
it will change it up,
you know,
but I do feel like the,
the strategy is still going to be in play.
It's just going to take a different mixture
if that makes sense.
I think that makes perfect sense, man.
I appreciate you trying to explain it to us.
Thanks a lot for today.
Awesome to have you stop in.
I know you're busy.
You know,
you got a lot of media to do when you win races like this.
So we appreciate,
appreciate you giving us a little bit of your time today, Tyler.
Absolutely.
Thank you guys.
See you.
Congrats.
Thank you.
Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr.
And you were here for an episode of Ask Jr.
And obviously I'm with my co-host TJ Majors.
We've been sitting here talking racing, Kansas.
We talked to Tyler Reddick.
We did a little,
we did a little dirty mode dough talking about Talladega.
So if you want to know some of our choices on,
on some of the fun things to,
to bet on Fendall or,
or what have you,
we got some pretty interesting stuff.
We even talked about championship favorites.
What, who are the favorites?
As we look at the points today,
you'll be surprised.
There's not many guys that I think have a shot at winning this championship.
It's a very small pool.
And right about now is the time to start thinking about that bit.
So anyhow,
not the rehash everything that we went through,
but I was on vacation for a couple of days.
And so I'm kind of coming back.
I don't know if y'all experienced this,
but anytime I go on a vacation,
when I get back,
I feel completely unconnected
and oblivious to everything that's been going on.
I don't remember what I was doing when I left,
what responsibilities are pressing,
what tasks that I need to continue
that I was in the middle of when I went out of town.
You left me right in the middle of,
you did leave me hanging with your social media clips.
Doing what?
From Isla and Stella's FaceTime calls.
I mean, I had to answer a lot of questions about that.
Oh.
The kind of stuff you're teaching our kids.
I mean,
Whatever.
Oh yeah.
What are you doing, Dale?
Hey,
the question really is,
did you deserve the comment?
No.
What did you say that she said?
I didn't say anything.
Sometimes you hear in FaceTime,
you kind of peek in there and she saw me
and she's kind of like,
get out of here.
I got you, yeah.
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Let's get to your questions.
So first question,
person wants to know,
he's a father with two little kids
and any advice for how to handle Mother's Day
coming up with making sure that
he has all the little gifts and stuff?
Don't forget.
I think that's the better.
Advice?
Yeah.
Like, what do you do?
Oh, for Mother's Day.
Well,
this is what my wife told me.
She said,
I want to leave the house.
I want to get away from y'all.
So send her somewhere.
Get her, you know,
get her a spa day,
whatever it is.
I would,
this is what I did.
So, you know,
you get her a spa appointment.
This is an hour.
Get her a nail appointment.
That's like two hours after that,
you know, or three hours after.
Put a little time in between.
Maybe call one of her friends
and say, hey,
where do you and her want to eat lunch?
I'm going to set a reservation
and I'll tell her to be there.
And she won't even know
that you're going to be there.
Surprise her with lunch with a friend.
There's all sorts of stuff,
but she shoo her away
for the day.
She wants to leave.
She doesn't want to have to be a mother.
She doesn't want a mom.
She doesn't want to be a wife that day.
She just wants to go
and treat herself
and know that she's, you know,
it's a good idea.
Yeah.
She needs to know that
everything's going to be fine
and that she can go on
and come on back when she feels like it.
I might have to upgrade
my membership packages
for my service that I was going to have
for that app.
Remember that app?
I was going to make a long time ago
where you sign up
and you just put in the dates.
Get the reminders.
Yeah.
It does it automatically for you.
This would be the goal.
That would be the goal.
Somebody needs to come up with that.
I know.
The dad app.
Yeah.
The man app.
Yeah.
The man app.
So then it gets a couple days away.
It orders you the flowers.
It does it for you.
You just tell them
how much you want to spend.
So here's the budget.
Yeah.
And it does all,
it sets all the appointments
and does everything for you.
You'll get an email
and it'll tell you,
hey, we sent this,
it's really smart.
Yes.
How long did I tell you that?
I did.
It was like 20 years,
15 years ago I said that to you.
I subscribed to that.
Yeah.
Out of renewal?
I'm going to tell you.
Yeah.
Filter of times, new company.
It's absolutely silly.
But you miss one of them damn dates.
Move, buddy.
Man, you'd pay anything
to dial that back.
You put in the,
when you subscribe,
you put in the dates
that are important to you
and who it's for
and you tell them the likes
and stuff
and we go through
and figure out
and send the stuff
automatically.
And, you know,
you get an email saying,
hey, you know,
they're getting,
you know,
whatever is getting this
on this day.
Just so you know.
Yeah.
It's smart because anniversary
birthday.
All done.
All of them.
Birthday.
Birthday.
Sorry.
All right.
This one person
I can't find their name
said send Amy
to the Freedom Factory
mom pre.
I think Amy'd ever want
to go.
She done,
she's done racing.
She tried it.
Oh, I spotted that.
She never doing that again.
No.
It's not even.
That was scary for me.
Scary for you.
Yeah.
Spotting.
That was scary.
You spotted for Amy.
Yeah.
Of course.
It's what he does for living.
He's an expert.
Yeah.
Expert.
You saw my work Saturday.
Great.
How was that?
Spotting for Amy.
Uh.
It lasted about.
It was chaos.
It lasted three quarters of a lap.
Yeah.
It was quick.
It was like Carson Quappels race.
It was the green,
green, green night.
Yeah, we're in it.
Great.
Yeah.
That race was not,
because she was in that,
then the bandolero cars
in the front stretch of Charlotte,
they were scary already.
So.
All right.
Uh, next question,
they, uh,
someone said,
you know,
I know you're into trading cards.
Did you ever collect
comic books or anything else
as a kid?
I brought a box today.
89 tops.
Some good bubble gum.
These are the hanger packs.
These are fun
because you can kind of see
who's in them.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They're fun.
Re-sealed.
That,
that year you would want
to get the,
um,
Randy Johnson rookie.
Yeah.
It's like Ryan Sandberg.
Oh, Sandbergs are all good
in the 80s.
Um,
what was the question?
Sorry.
Did you ever collect
like comic books?
Like I was big into
starting lineups as a kid.
Yeah.
Um,
I didn't collect anything,
but I did enjoy,
um,
I did enjoy cartoons.
They,
it was a comic book
around cars.
Called cartoons.
Um,
Mad magazines.
I used to get tons
of Mad magazines,
you know, to fold,
fold the last page together
and it made some kind of funny thing.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I used to remember that.
Oh man,
I used to read Mad magazine
a ton
when I was,
you know,
mad.
10 years ago.
Sounded like Archie
same time.
Archie and Jughead.
Yeah.
Did a little bit of Archie
and Jughead.
Mad magazine was a big deal.
I'm kind of,
I'm kind of flipping out
right now.
Cause it's just not,
not doing it anymore.
It's not around anymore.
Yeah,
it's not.
Yeah.
I don't know what happened to Mad
magazine,
but it was interesting
for sure.
Um,
surprised
my dad,
Teresa,
let me read that
considering how strict
they were with other things
like wrestling and stuff,
but
now I didn't really,
I didn't really collect,
collect anything.
So,
you know,
that's remembered.
Remember the tough stuff
books
for a card collecting
and it had like,
it was one of them ones
that told every,
you looked the card up
and it told the price.
Like,
yeah,
it's like,
same thing as Beckett.
Well,
they put one of the pages
had all the teams
address for their stadium.
Well,
I sent a member
of the Washington running
back, Ricky Irving.
Remember him?
Yeah.
So I sent a car,
two cards into him
to get signed,
got him back.
And
I thought,
well,
this is actually really cool.
So I sent in,
I had a Michael Irving
and I sent it in
and never got it back.
I've been mad about that.
That's why I hate the Cowboys.
Why don't you just go
on eBay and buy the card?
Maybe it's my card.
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, I don't know.
Close the loop.
Yeah, maybe I should.
Yeah.
I just remembered about that.
Still mad.
Yeah.
Someone's to know,
did you ever get into goose bumps?
Was that before?
Was that after your time?
Oh,
I don't know nothing about that.
What is that?
The books?
No.
That's not happening.
No, sir.
Oh.
I want to go to the,
I want to go to the antique mall.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, they got everything.
They got card stuff there.
They do.
They got a big antique mall here in Moorsville.
A lot of comic book stuff there, too.
Next question.
You just come off your vacation.
They want to know
if you were to go to any country
you haven't been to.
Oh,
I'll tell you, man.
I,
there's a couple I want to go back to,
but
I want to go back to Japan.
When we went to Japan in 1999,
I wasn't,
I didn't eat sushi here in the States,
and it's different.
I know,
but I'm just trying to say, like,
I wasn't,
when I went to Japan,
I did not appreciate the opportunity that I had
to, like,
enjoy that culture or all the food
and different things.
I would love to go back
to Japan
and spend a week there
with Amy.
That'd be awesome.
I'd love to go to Australia.
I was there in 06.
TJ went
and
I'd love to take my family back.
That's a lot of fun.
It's so great.
It is.
And so we,
we did it right.
We did it right,
but
I'd love to go back and do that,
but to
a country that I've never been.
Maybe a state,
Alaska.
I've wanted to drive.
There's this road
from
Vancouver ish
up through
to Alaska.
And I wanted to drive that road because
I don't know how long that might take,
but
there's all these old
vintage mining towns
and stuff
that were,
you know, that are still there
and some original saloons
and stuff like that.
But that would be
and man,
how beautiful would that be
to drive up through there,
Northern Canada up into Alaska.
I've never been to Alaska.
Would you like to do some of that gold
mining stuff?
Maybe kind of need to try it.
Would you do one of those like
cruises up through Alaska?
Or do you want to just go
and stay at like one spot?
I kind of want to drive through
through the wilderness,
if you will.
You told me about
this town that they,
there's like this
rafter.
Oh, they did.
You know, I'm talking about
on here,
talked about that on here
multiple times,
but there's a river in Alaska
where,
I don't know if they do anymore,
but it's like a seasonal thing
where all these,
all these guys
you know what,
you know,
city slickers
where they like
paid to go
Russell cattle,
remember?
Yeah.
And so there's dude ranches
and stuff.
And so
there's a,
there's,
there's a river in
in Alaska
where I think,
you know,
I don't know if they
still do this.
It'd be curious if they do,
but guys get together
and they build
rafts
in this particular town
and they set out
on this river
and go down
this river until
they don't want to do
anywhere.
Alaska Log
Raft Adventures
on the Yukon River.
When you told me about this,
I was like,
he's going to do it.
Like we're going to
have to do this.
There's guys that
they'll build a 20 by 20
raft,
put a couple of tents on it
to be two or three dudes
on there.
They just,
you know,
they just float down the river
and they cook
and eat and talk
and hang out
and have fun.
And when they're done,
they just parked
a damn raft
in the river
and get off.
You're done.
And so that
in this video
that I was watching
and this was
this was 20 years ago
that I saw this.
So it's very old.
So they're going down
this river
hanging out
videoing themselves
and on the side
of the river's
old rafts
that, you know,
we're from the last year
the year before
or several years ago
that guys were just like,
yep, we're done.
We're ready to get off.
Yeah.
And I don't know
that they do anything
other than fish
and hang out
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, it sounds fun.
It does.
Yeah.
Sounds cold.
I tell you,
I was on this trip.
We went to St. Martin's
and Anguilla
and a couple of the places
this weekend
and I would like
to live on a boat
for a chunk
of time.
Yeah.
I'd like to have
I'd like to have
my family
and live on a boat
and
not like a
like a catamaran
or something
like Carl Edwards is doing, right?
And sail
and, you know,
spend a month
or something like that
in the ocean.
That'd be badass.
I would love to be
on a sailboat.
What does it feel like
to be on a sailboat
and look out
and not see
a piece of land
anywhere?
Be wild, right?
It would be peaceful.
It'd be peaceful, wild.
I followed a couple.
Little,
little bit of anxiety.
I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
I follow a couple of people
that actually
there's like a family
of four or five
or something like that.
Yeah.
And they like,
they're sitting there
doing their school work
during the day
and they dock
or they,
when I say dock,
they drop the anchor
at some of these places
and they dive in
and swim.
I mean,
I'd like to do it though.
We're like
turn the technology off
and like,
you might get on just to
see what's going on.
But for the most part,
like,
you're just out there.
Like,
you're no connection
to the world really.
I'll tell you, man,
we went to
St. Martin's
and Marinas
and getting on boats
and getting in taxis
and going here
and going there
and doing things.
Losing your phone.
And
I'm there.
They're living.
They're living.
They,
they,
just how we are oblivious
to what,
what's happening there
at this moment.
You know,
they are just as oblivious
to what we're doing
over here.
For sure.
And it feel,
yeah,
it looks like
a lot of fun.
Amy thinks that
we would go over there
and do it
and after a while
we'd be like,
all right,
you know,
this is,
okay,
this is like Groundhog Day,
same thing every day.
I don't know.
I could get into it.
Jay Wayne,
so just make sure you
take Wilson with you
just in case.
Yeah, for sure.
So Reddick thought
he was running out of gas
at the end of the race.
What's that feeling like?
What's time?
It's,
it's frustrating.
I mean,
if you,
when you,
he didn't run out of gas,
right?
So let's be clear
like,
he was,
he still won.
He still won the race.
He,
he didn't run out of gas,
but
I'll say
the one race
that I think about is
Pocono,
me and Tony Jr.,
2008.
We had ran,
we'd ran
5th to 8th all day
and
we weren't good enough
to pass anybody,
but we were good enough
to not get passed
and I'd busted my ass
for 400,
500 miles,
whatever that race was back then.
It might have been 200 lapper,
but
I had busted my ass
to,
to,
you know,
finish what I,
I wanted to finish what I started
and get what I thought
I should get.
That's how I raced every race
and
we,
we ran out of gas
off a turn two
coming to,
coming to two to go.
Like we were,
we were short quite a bit
because a big race track
and Tony Jr.
never really said
that we were close.
And
I don't know,
I got out,
showed my ass a little bit.
I smashed,
I grabbed my helmet
and smashed
the f***
fender of the race car
and knocked the f***,
knocked a big ass
dent in the fender
and I was just mad,
but
I kind of regret
doing that,
but
and Tony Jr. was mad at me.
He's like,
no, that's not how
we're going to act,
but
man, when you,
if you know
you're going to be short,
is one thing, right?
Because you can pedal
and do things during the run.
Kind of expected.
Yeah.
There's times when we're in,
we've been in races together,
TJ and we're running along
and all of a sudden
the,
the crew chief would say,
hey,
can you save me a little gas here?
And it's like 10 to go,
15 to go.
Like a little too long.
Like, what the f***?
Yeah.
Like,
I could have done that.
I've loved to have started
doing that 40 laps ago.
Yeah.
But that makes you pretty nervous.
Man,
when you run out of gas,
it just sucks.
Cause you just eat,
you know, just,
you're bleeding spots.
Yeah.
You've just,
you just,
the race is ruined.
I mean,
most notably,
obviously,
Coke 600.
Yeah.
But at least,
at least there,
we got to coast across the line
for a top 10.
Yeah.
Vegas similar,
Vegas with similar ones.
Yeah.
We're on third there,
I think.
Yeah.
And then I feel like
when the roles were reversed,
we had enough fuel.
We're running second to Kurt
at Pocono
and we're listening.
They're like,
all right, Kurt,
you got to save fuel
and I'm looking at his lap time.
I just saw a clip the other day
where Brad beat us at Kansas.
We ran second,
we ran second Kansas,
Brad's,
Brad's second career win.
He was clutching the car
down in the corner
and saved enough fuel.
You saw that?
Yeah.
And so,
well,
they told Kurt to save fuel
and I'm like,
oh,
we got this guy.
He's got a back up to us
and I look at his lap time
at Pocono
and he starts running faster
when he's like going,
he's slowing down,
he's like,
I'm like,
damn it,
like,
why can't this work out?
Oh, yeah.
All right, everybody,
appreciate y'all tuning in.
It's been a fun show.
I hope you'll check it out
when it comes out later today.
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one of our favorite races
when it comes to gambling.
We don't need a Russell for this.
We had a
just throw a damn dart
at the dartboard.
We're going to do a little bit of a,
we did a manufacturer parlay last week.
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last week.
One of them almost hit.
Who's that?
Not yours.
Not mine.
No, mine was terrible.
I think it was
the Russ, T.J.
and Tim's kind of all agreed on it.
Yeah.
Larsen Redick.
Busher was the one that missed.
You know who beat Busher?
Who?
Brad Kelausen.
Yeah.
I ruined it.
Well, we had a Talladega.
The favorites are Logano Blaney
and Byron Redick.
Larsen Elliott are in the conversation.
Russell, what are your thoughts?
I don't think you can go away
from the Redick train.
Here that's, that's where I'd go.
He's won three of the last 13 on drafting
tracks, one, both of them this year.
Other than that, I'm, I get scared
at Talladega to even try to tell you
what's going to happen.
Yeah.
Well, 11 different winners in the last
11 races at Talladega.
So T.J. seems to have
this like some of these wins are
like the like three of the last 13.
Well, two of them because the right
guy showed up at the right time
and things happened in front of them
that were perfectly laid out.
Yeah.
But I mean, yeah, but like that you
can't, it's not a dominating win.
Like it used to be like these guys
used to dominate these tracks and
like then you say, then you say,
yeah, you get on that train because
those are the guys that know how
to manipulate air manipulate.
Not the guy that gets the lucky push
down halfway down the back stretch
all the way to the line.
That's like you're counting that and
like you're giving it too much credit,
Russell.
Your predictors wrong.
Hey, came he came in here.
Like that was his main.
That's T.J.
His main goal today.
He was coming here.
He chose violence.
He's waiting.
He's been waiting for this.
Russell, I've been waiting for this
load.
Russell, you tell him the back
story while you're mad at me.
I'm not mad at you.
I'm not mad at you.
Right before the race.
It's Russell's fault.
Your car ended up upside down.
Let's hear.
Russell looks Russell.
I mean, Russell, we're having a,
you know, we're just talking about stuff.
And then he's like, don't wreck him.
And then like five minutes later,
upside down.
I said, don't wreck him on the first couple
laps is what I said.
We almost made it.
I turn it on and he's on his roof.
Yeah.
Sound advice you probably should have
defeated.
I mean, I did say,
I did walk away from that saying I will
do my best.
He does have,
he does have a predictor.
Yeah.
I think I would listen to the guy
who owns a predictor.
I mean, I can make my own predictor
as well.
Oh, I'd love to see that.
Tim's.
You're always,
you're always probably the,
what's up, Tim?
You're the,
you're the best person to ask.
You didn't even say,
you didn't say hi to Tim's yet.
You haven't even seen him.
I mean, did I?
I think so.
No, he did not.
You're the best person to ask
around Talladega Daytona.
I, I just,
I do believe in the predictor.
I do appreciate Russell and his value.
But this is Talladega.
This is Daytona.
This is,
this is a crap shoot.
Thank you.
What are we going to do?
I think you just bet guys
that are consistently up front
and you hopefully miss,
miss the wreck.
They get the right time push.
Guys like Austin Dillon.
Tyler Reddick.
Tyler Reddick.
Breck Hezlowski's up there.
I mean, he's got to win one of these, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm spot.
But they all have good odds too.
Like Brad's plus 2,000.
That's good for a guy who runs up front.
Austin Dillon's plus 5,500.
That's,
that's good.
You know,
I would bet those guys
and take a shot.
Plus wreck avoidance.
We got to look at that category.
Crash avoidance.
Before last race,
it was William Byron.
Then he gets in a wreck.
Now he's off the charts.
Yep.
So,
we know going into...
He's still up there.
We know going into Talladega,
there's really no rhyme or reason.
Of course, yes.
A little bit of money on Reddick,
Byron,
all these guys that we mentioned.
Who are some of the dark horses?
Give me two dark horses.
Cody, where top 10?
I like Zane Smith.
Zane Smith.
Top 5.
Top 10.
When?
I would start with top 10 if we can.
Yeah.
He was,
he was top 10 last year.
Won the poll for this race last year.
Yeah.
Finished top 10
and four of the last five
drafting track races.
Okay.
You sold me.
But TJ doesn't like those numbers.
You sold me.
All right.
What about Stenhouse?
People are going to say Stenhouse.
Yes.
Stenhouse.
That's a good bet.
Great bet.
But his stats haven't been
that great a bit.
Plus 5,000 to win.
Do it.
123rd top 10.
They haven't been that great.
He's always worth a bet.
Yeah.
He was runner up in the 500.
The scrappier the race,
the messier the race,
the better Stenhouse.
Yeah.
Like,
I kind of like Cole Custer too.
I think he's always around there.
I like Eric Jones.
Eric Jones.
Throwing around some names
I think you could throw into
a top 10 bet.
Yeah.
We got some numbers on the championship.
Reddick at plus 400 to win the championship.
Do we have Denny's odds?
He's 450.
450.
With this,
with the way.
Denny bro knows.
And with the way things are going,
I think that it would be,
I think it would be a smart money
to put down something on the guys
that are in the top three.
Yeah, this early.
If you believe that they could stay there,
Tyler Reddick I believe does.
To Denny Hamlin, I believe does.
We set it every year for the last,
I don't know,
it feels like 10 years.
This could be Denny's year.
Honestly,
you know,
I honestly feel like betting money on Denny
to win the championships.
A good idea.
I look around, you know,
in that top five,
top six,
I see Larson, Chase Elliott, Byron.
They're all kind of right outside the top,
top five there.
Those are the only other people
in the conversation for me.
Really?
Like, if you're talking about making bets
for the championship,
everybody could chime in here,
but I think you're betting the top three.
If you believe those three,
you're going to stay.
And the only other people I would even consider
putting money on would be guys
in the top six, top seven at this point.
What do you think, Russell?
I'm Reddick Larson Hamlin.
That's where I would stay.
I agree too.
I think a way to try to bet them
is to try to bet them on their slump.
You know, they're going to go through the roller coaster.
Bet them on the slump.
That's the best number you're going to get.
Yeah.
And don't bet Reddick right now,
because this is the highest he's going to be.
What about Blaney?
How many weeks do you think the books need
to recognize a slump?
I would say two to three.
Two to three bad races?
Yeah.
You'll go through that.
Like, Bell did it last year.
One three out the gate.
Slow summer.
It lasted longer now,
but I would have put him,
maybe July would have bet him.
Yeah.
He's going to come back up.
It's crazy that we go a week later.
Blaney's hot at Bristol.
And now we don't hear from, you know what I mean?
Like, to me, Blaney's still in the conversation.
I know that's been something that's always fascinated me.
And I don't remember that being the case
when I was younger.
But in the last like 15 years,
we go from our championship favorite
literally changes every week.
Yeah.
Zero last week.
Zero this week.
As a broadcaster,
we go into the booth talking about another guy.
That's the championship favorite,
depending on what they did the last week.
It's nonsense.
Does it worry you with, with Blaney being like so many
intermediate races in the chase?
Yes.
Like he hasn't been that great on those tracks.
Yeah.
But I mean, if he survived,
but if he survives them,
if he survives them and gets to the light near the end,
I mean, the season still ends pretty strong for him.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
I mean,
it's still what four or five of the 10 races
are on intermediates.
You still don't think Blaney can run fifth, sixth
at an intermediate and,
you know, still win at like a Martinsville and
not a Phoenix.
No, not.
They got to get their act together.
Well, I mean, this last week he got,
I mean, he had a hole in his nose
from the first stop.
I understand.
Yeah.
I'm just saying like to his point,
it's a 10 race championship race now.
And you kind of got to look at it.
Yeah.
It's a bigger, bigger thing.
Yeah.
I like Denny a ton for this.
Redick is certainly,
if he can continue to be great.
Kyle Larson just,
I don't know if I should be nervous about him
if he's not into top three.
I guess I think Kyle Larson
or Chase Elliott and even William Byron
could actually get a lot of points.
But is it going to be enough
in terms of the deficit they'll start?
Yeah.
The playoffs in if they are not top three.
It's hard to go against like Denny right now,
though, where he's at and he always running.
You know, you would know as well as anyone,
how confident are you, Russell,
in betting Larson for the championship
if he's fifth or sixth?
Starting the playoffs.
I think fifth or sixth, you're okay.
Any further back, I would be worried.
And that's for Larson.
When you look at, like, yes, yes.
Yeah.
So if it's anybody,
when I expect him to,
you think he's going to,
like I expect him to be,
to be, yeah,
I think he's going to finish in that three or four.
Yeah, I do.
The highest percentage I have right now is third.
Yeah.
I mean, if he can finish top three,
I gave him a damn great shot at winning the championship.
But man, you know,
everything I've heard and seen,
I just feel like even a Kyle Larson
will have a very difficult path forward
to try to win the championship from sixth,
seventh, maybe even fifth.
Definitely doable, but against...
But when you look at those chase races,
they all set up for Larson or Hamlin,
when, to me, like it's like
Darlington, those two come up.
But even, Reddick's got a lot of speed.
Tyler's got maybe one of the best,
I mean, he's obviously got one of the fastest cars,
but Denny is just more consistent to me.
Like, like I was, we were talking about earlier,
Tyler's went, you know,
two or three of them have just been at the right times,
but he's in the right spot,
but Denny's leading a lot of,
like how many laps has Denny led compared to Tyler
probably quite a bit, right?
Yeah.
We're not talking about Ty Gibbs,
who's right in the middle of all this.
One is first race.
Yeah.
Fourth and eighth in the stages this past weekend.
Ended up with a top 10 in ninth.
Some news.
Plus 2200 to win the championship.
If you do think he has a, is going to do that,
that's a good, good time to place it's right now.
I don't think so though, so I would save your money.
But I don't think he's winning this year.
Well, I mean, if, if we're talking,
you know, I guess it's that time of year
where you could basically say there's,
literally only about five or six guys
that have a shot at it.
Yeah.
It's going to take a heck of a run.
How about that?
Yeah.
Pretty cool.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I like that.
I do too.
I kind of like knowing.
Yeah.
I mean, even Byron and Bell,
which I would,
what is it?
I'm feeling,
I'm kind of nice and I'm relieved the guy sitting
in 16th isn't going to steal this thing.
See you Joey.
Nothing against Joey.
I'm just saying.
I love that it feels like it's happening.
Happening.
I feel like it's happening normally.
I just like,
I love how this is working like a normal.
We're going to get a true champion.
What a concept.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know what I'm trying to say.
You're trying to be nice.
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About this episode
Dale Jr. and TJ Majors kick off with a vacation recap that turns into a real-world disaster story: a rough, no-suspension “Moke” ride in St. Martin’s leads to Dale’s phone getting run over, while the SOS alert helps Amy find the crash. The NASCAR talk then gets heated—debating Cody Ware’s late-race decisions, why there are fewer natural cautions lately, and whether any “conspiracy” claims about Tyler Reddick’s success hold water. Tyler joins to explain his Kansas pass, fuel/pump concerns, and Talladega strategy. The show closes with contract/crew-chief chatter, Track House’s struggles, and FanDuel Talladega betting picks.
Original notes
After a smashing (pun-intended) weekend in St. Maarten and Antigua, Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the studio for a new edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to chat about NASCAR’s weekend in Kansas:
- Mokes, bad suspension, and lost phones
- How Carson Kvapil's flip cars ruined dinner
- Cody Ware’s bad day gets worse
- We’ve seen a decrease in natural cautions in the last two decades
- Is Denny Hamlin over the conversation about his comments on Kyle Busch?
- Can Kyle Busch rally back from this year?
- Trackhouse is in a rebuilding phase
- The future of the O’Reilly Series and CUVs
- Kansas race winner Tyler Reddick joins the show
During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions regarding:
- Best plans for Mother’s Day
- Amy’s racing career
- Other childhood collectables
- Countries Dale would like to visit
- Running out of gas during a race
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