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Now here is the Under the Hood Show podcast. This is Under the Hood. Welcome to the Under the Hood
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Show. We are glad to have you with us. Russ Evans is here to answer your automotive questions.
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Thanks for joining us under the hood. Shannon Nordstrom is here to do the same.
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Welcome hoodies. Thanks for tuning in so we can help you tune up. I'm Chris Carter here to answer
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your calls at 866-594-4150. I was going to ask you guys what what you have automotive late.
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But I have recently just within the last two days received a shipment of all of the automotive
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magazines I get. So they all came in at once. Yeah they did over two days. So now my mind is just
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to wash with stuff. So we're just gonna skip it. And what a change that is
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because it used to be those came every month and now at least are they both that way they're
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they're two months I think every two months issues a year and then same with road and track
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which is they send out more of a send out more of a premier issue which I still like hanging
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on to it and flipping the pages and something about glossy print photos we do. Does that
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does that go for every generation? Probably not. Well here's the thing. I'm right in that
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switch because I read most of it online on my iPad almost all of it but there's two that I still get
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on paper that I like getting on paper and I don't read them online or touch them because I want to
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get the paper but the other stuff I've switched to and it doesn't bother me at all I still read it
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like a magazine. There's some of this newest generation that's old enough to drive cars that
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are kind of going back I don't know what it is they're going back to the old music they're going
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back to old things like print and newspapers we might have a shift a renaissance as we go away
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from that kind of stuff maybe we'll go back to if people want it it'll it'll be you know if you
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build it they will come no you don't think so no I think it'll I think it's gonna go
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away phase out yeah it might get a little bit like you'll have a few that last or a few that but
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I think it's good it's not enough yeah that's what I think I just think it's it's like the phone
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landline we'll always have a landline yeah we'll always have to have we won't have like call waiting
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and stuff anymore but we'll always have a landline gone anybody have you have a landline no I got rid
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of it landline two years ago do you have a landline Doug has a landline it's part of our package with
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alliance communications and no matter how I slice it up with what I got going on at my house I might
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as well have a landline to get the old dependable there yet and it's only gets um robo calls it
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seems right right 866594415 oh that's the number to reach
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us here at the end of the hood show let's talk to Joseph you're on the end of the hood show Joseph
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what can we do for you I have a 1996 Dodge Intrepid support or sedan I bought it in
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new in September 1995 it's I got a 3.3 liter v6 engine in it and I got about 145,700 miles on it okay
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my issue is when I accelerate up to highway speed between that 40 45 50 55 there's like a slight
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hesitation or or jerking feeling I get when I get up to highway speed at 60 uh 65 it kind of
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feels like when the when the tires spin on ice there's a momentary bit of traction or that jerking
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feeling um this is only between that 40 to 55 to 60 miles an hour and it does not do this when I
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decelerate during those speeds only when I accelerate I'll just wait to listen for your
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your answer or what you come up with thanks very much for the call I get that feel that's a good
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description of it too that not bad little bit of a no one's ever used that description yet they
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call it like a trailer hitching thing when the trailer's behind you but I like that it slips and
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then it's the same as if you have the uh lane keeping and you're and it moves you just a little
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bit at the was your turn in there it's also the first time we've had a drivability call on a 96
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intrepid in a long time pretty long while the old lh cars from craisler that used to be a very
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popular car the lhs the intrepid um the eagle vision all three of those I'm glad you pulled
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out eagle vision because that was that was I don't know where that came from these I forget
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one of the three but that that vehicle craisler concord was huge for I mean on the show I bet we
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took at least 300 calls for those over the years that they were they were really popular but now
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there's still a few around there are a lot more of those down south than there are here the bodies
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fell apart here the strut towers would rust out and things but down south that 3.3 engine can go
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three to 400000 miles if it's well taken care of sometimes they do and sometimes they
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were swapped out so you'll still see some of those vehicles running around well here you go joseph
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if you're listening like we're in South Dakota if you're listening up here and you've never driven
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down south you should go take a trip down there because the cars are different it's it's a different
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experience and if you're down south listening as many are yeah come up here and look at our cars
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the ones that don't exist anymore right right so this intrepid I think you might have just a simple
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ignition miss this car still has spark plug wires on it and a single coil and if the wires start to
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break down they will arc to ground causing this and cause other coils to with the 3.3 if it was a 3.5
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that wouldn't be the case right so they they will arc to ground and do that and the coils can wear
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out too so it might just need a simple tune up which on this car would be a the one coil and the
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six spark plug wires and a set of spark plugs and you may fix your whole problem I would suspect
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that now it can be diagnosed if you want to get you know some people say well just diagnose and
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figure out well you could or you could just tune it up if it hasn't been done in decades I don't
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you could be a long very long time since that's been done but otherwise you can look at it with a
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lab scope scanner and see what if one of the cylinders is missing but that's the most likely
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scenario on this car usually transmissions on those slip not jerk like that and it feels like
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the very first question I ever asked on this show before I even started on it was about my wind
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start that did this exact thing we thought it was transmission and it was just it was a coil
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ignition a miss yeah you still had the old numbered motorcraft spark plug wires after like 10 years
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I remember that call yeah I said well Chris you probably have an ignition miss let's let's open
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your hood after the show and we did and they were numbered and that's what it was I think we
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actually went out there on the break real quick and and took a peek at that it's in the parking
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lot and it was yeah you're close to the building I remember that day it was it was
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breezy hey I'm just gonna say something also for Joseph here in that car and I remember this happened
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quite a bit where people would lose the belt and it would and then they'd kill the water pump doesn't
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turn they would kill that motor it was it was fairly common if I remember it on those because
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the three fives have a chain drive and the three threes had a belt drive and that was fairly common
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so if that belt hasn't been changed on there for a bit I would put that on because especially with
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the age of the car I would definitely have that on the list 866-594-4150 that's the number to
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reach us here at the end of the hood show let's go to North Dakota and talk to Larry you're on
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the end of the hood show Larry what can we do for you wow and listen to your show on the radio
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for years and just recently started watching it on YouTube and I love that even more cool thank you Larry
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we're waving at you right now Larry so when you watch this you can you know see us waving at you
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perfect we love that hey I do have an F-150 of 07 of 5.4 liter of three valves
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and I used to just love this truck and uh since I got YouTube though you know and I found out it's
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the worst engine in the world but it's been it's been perfect it's it's only got 27,000 miles on
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I think and it's been taking real good care of as far as not being uprooted I'm the only driver in
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Bismarck to get honked at by a little old lady but uh it's been it's been a good truck and I love it
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my questions are is there any lubricate I can add to the oil I just had it change
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so maybe it'll make them cam followers last a little longer before they give up
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and the other question is what what makes the cam phasers phase what what what makes them do the
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thing they do and you can me keeping my foot off the floor on the gas pedal preventing them ever
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doing that you can't prevent that from happening unless you put in a a lockout kit which locks
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those phasers keeps them from moving they need they need oil pressure to operate when you start
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the vehicle they move otherwise they're stuck to one position so you they either need to be working
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properly or you need to put a lockout kit in them to permanently lock them out and then there's a
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plug-in into the data port under the dash where you scan your vehicle with your scanner and it
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reprograms the system to lock that out and depending on where you go to put that full kit and you're
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going to spend somewhere between one and 2000 dollars to to get it done I thought it'd be more
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than that no that that's just to do the lockout part but if you do it before there's a a big failure
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in any damage a lot of times you can push one of those engines to 700000 miles
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which for him would be about 70 years I'm just gonna say that I'm gonna read the room here a
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little bit and say you bought this truck brand new you said yes sir and you've only done the only
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part and you've only put 28 000 miles on it it's probably gonna be fine and how often do you change
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your oil once a year and sometimes that's only 300 miles four miles something's but something's
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been working whatever you're doing whether it's the driving or something something's keeping it
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working good and even if you've only got 30 thought yeah you're gonna be a while I'm thinking another
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spend that money on coffee I'm sorry don't just keep up on your oil changes you've only got 28
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thousand miles at the rate you're putting on miles yeah if you can you're gonna own that
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truck the rest of your life well most of these made it to at least 70 000 miles before that occurred
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so yeah and they were doubled usually not driven as babyish as yours is I mean
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you're getting honked at by little old ladies in Bismarck let's be real about this I think that if
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you keep up your oil change routine and make sure is it is it stored in climate control or is it in
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a cold garage hot garage both up and down it's an attached garage it never gets below 30 okay
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so you're not getting the huge temperature swings to to build up a bunch of moisture in the engine
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you're gonna get some in our part of the world for sure if it's not air conditioning needed to
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we don't even use it in the winter time uh unless the weather is real bad we need fuel to drive
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the battery is is original and it's still working fine change we got maintainers on it every every
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time you know we're not using the maintainers on it but the batteries are still working I don't
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understand that either it's awesome that it's working but I change it it's 27 years 20 years old
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that's amazing change it you're living on borrowed time with that one yeah now the main a maintainer
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just to prove to people a maintainer can make a battery last a very long time if it's that
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sulfation inside the battery and a standard lead acid battery which a lot of cars still have
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that is caused mainly it's very much accelerated when the battery is run low it's run through a lot
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of hard charge cycles with discharges recharges it's it's like a corrosion on a car you know and
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you you can prevent a lot of that with a maintainer so if you know what's going to be
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sitting or if there's going to be any time where it might go down that's it's a good idea plus
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heat breaks down batteries under the hood you're not running it as long you don't have the heat
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under there so overall I think you're good but just to prevent that thing at 20 years old if you go
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into a store and shut it off if you're worried that it might not start when you come out you might
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get that at the very least get yourself one of those portable jump packs and keep it with you
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and they'll they have a little app on your phone so it'll remind you when to charge that jump pack
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which is about every three to six months usually just so you know it's good for me if I drove it
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that little I might just say you know I don't want to see how long this battery will go because maybe
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it goes to 30 years and you're like I've got the original battery in here but I've got the jump pack
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just to give me peace of mind well that's what I like to tell people and they always see all your
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lines go look at the data it's got a dode on it I made you three years old I made you three years old
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and uh I'm trying to outlast the truck and I think I'm going to I think you're going to do and then
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those those phasers are ran off oil pressure and as long as you're maintaining good oil pressure
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with that low miles and the oil changes that you have and the use that you have I think you're
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going to be just fine I'm glad you're paying attention anything in the oil that was the first
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question yeah should he put anything in the oil just stick with what you're doing okay it's working
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Larry thanks very much for the call golly let us know if it goes bad from here like just just calling
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now my fear would be just calling and asking about it will jinx him it's like the announcer's curse
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exactly never miss the field goal never miss the field goal thanks gary 8665
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94415 oh let's go to georgia and talk to bob you're on the end of the hood
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show bob what can we do for you I need a wheel for a 2007 accord v6 it has a bent wheel on it
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and uh question could I have this rim straightened is is your accord the style that has a steel rim
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in a hubcap or is it a cast alloy wheel it's a nine spoke alloy wheel with five lugs of course
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and where is it bent at the inside realm so like you hit something and it it pushed it in
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yes okay um two things here one this is I think quite easy to solve without a lot of money
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in two ways depends on which one you want to try russ just made a motion you could try one
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but the other one is our our friends at kardash part um if you put that in there you could probably
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find a rim in your part of the world for $50 $75 or less probably 100 of them yeah 200 and they
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will and in your part of the world they're not going to have corrosion like they do in our part
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of the world and Honda rims weren't as bad on certain ones um but that would be the proper fix
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um we have seen people effectively straighten those with what kind of hammer dead blow
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but the risk is with aluminum is when it bends like that it typically cracks if it goes too far
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yeah the metal fatigue and it'll crack but I've seen people straighten them on on uh some medieval
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methods and there is companies out there that have rim straighteners I mean we use a lot of
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people send expensive rims and to be straightened because they're they're exotic rims they're you
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know they're very low profile and they get bent easy there's a number of companies that do straight
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and rims but it's just frankly not worth it for as cheap as you can replace that rim right if you
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go to the if you go to the original that's probably a 1400 dollar rim
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but there's no reason to do that our partners at road ready wheels um you know they have replicas
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available for a lot of those rims is another option so something to consider all the time
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but that was definitely something that can easily be solved bob
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okay well I guess I'm gonna replace the chart man yeah it's car-part.com if you're gonna search for
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that the quality used replacement and it seems like that'll be pretty I mean very available there
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a few 07 accords well what happens and 07s are getting old enough that not as many people are
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are doing a full service inventory on them sure but there's been enough of them run through the
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system I'll just about guarantee you there's wheels on a shelf somewhere that somebody
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hasn't purged a warehouse and they'd be happy to sell it otherwise you may even find one at a
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self-service yard in your area if you if you go into a self-service yard and do a little hunting
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if they have that kind of car there and you could probably pick one up for
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30 bucks or less do most you you pull it lots have the list of cars available like you guys have
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I can see what cars you have on your lot it doesn't tell me what's on that car right the majority of
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the I would call it more advanced self-service yards and there's a bunch of them around the
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country now some of them have even been you know corporatized there's big groups that have numbers
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can see the vehicles that we have on the lot and the pictures of them when we bought them
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okay or on facebook they'll sometimes take a video of the row how it currently sits when we set it
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you know because there's a few times where there might be some parts going off it already
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where it might happen to be but as we sit here right now somebody could be taking that fender
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what car it came off of we don't care we just sell them a wheel and so the parts are leaving
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cool was that intrepid a classic nope right no no did they did they make a tsi version of the eagle
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vision yeah yeah yeah because i mean they had a tsi version of about everything do you know
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that would be more of a yeah maybe you know do you know it is a berkeley classic no by the way
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you know it is a berkeley classic that i looked at the other day now they keep coming up on my feed
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what's that a conquest tsi oh yeah an 87 conquest tsi and they are officially going up in value
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really yeah okay that was have you looked at you know what that looks like christ is that here
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no yeah it's a pretty cool car yeah they were the it's cool now or it was cool no then
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yeah it's still cool the problem was if you beat them really hard i mean they were fast and if you
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drove them if you drove them hard you could you could overdrive the car and get it to perform very
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well but it didn't make it very long if it was under warranty you would you could oh yeah you could
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burn it up in a weekend they had a hot 2.6 turbo engine in them a mitzvah 2.6 and they had a laser
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had that too you know that same engine yeah but you could you could drive them hard enough that
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from one end of the 80 to the other you could open the hood and the turbo would glow red you could
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get it so hot so i've done that they didn't have quite enough fuel and if you if you upped the fuel
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in them you could chip them and things like that then you would burn the head gaskets out of them so
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they weren't but if you drove it if you just drove it you could really enjoy it it was a nice car
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it was very affordable for those days you could buy purchase one of those if your parents were
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going to get you a graduation car one of those was cheaper than a new z28 and a lot of the people
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wanted that a lot of the girls they were cheaper yeah that's what it kind of
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looks like i mean it's it's got the body shape of uh it was a two-door scumero two-door fun car
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and you know oh it was a wedge car yeah hatchback yeah same same thing like a supra but you know what
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the ones the ones that weren't the higher end tsi and that sort of thing were not very attractive
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no i don't imagine no that the that that one and the misubishi starian with the turbo where the
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they were sister cars and they were both good but the that one was the one that yeah the conquest
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was the one they want 866594415 oh let's go to nebraska and
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talk to steve you're on the end of the hood show steve what can we do for you yes i have a 2001 dodge
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2500 as the 5.9 Cummins power with a five speed i has at least 217 000 miles on it i
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install a new injection pump like three years ago the it doesn't run smooth at highway
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speed it's always like surging up and down very slightly and i didn't know what that would entail
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and then if i need to slow down why i nearly always have to downshift because it'll start
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jerking a little bit do you guys have any ideas on that it could have a fuel pressure problem it
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doesn't have a good steady fuel flow to that injection pump it's gonna surge and it's gonna
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buck and not work like it's supposed to even a dirty fuel filter will cause that i've seen a lot
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of them with dirty fuel filters that that cleaned right up but you know i'm assuming that that's one
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of the first things you did to try to fix this at some point over the years if it's been doing it a
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while and a lot of people add the fuel preparators i can't ever say the right word about that but
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basically it's a fuel improver that you put in the line and it makes sure that it takes all the
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cavitation out of the fuel and delivers fuel that's not cavitated with air uh right to the
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through the system and then filtered it at the right pressure yeah it just totally yeah there
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you go it's like putting a uninterrupted power supply in front of your electronics cleans up the
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what's feeding it yeah and now maybe you've done like said russ all said all of that stuff
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has this been since you put the new pump on or did or did it do it before it did it before the new
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pump well and the pump pumps get damaged from fuel quality is one thing um fuel starvation
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is another thing because you lose the lubricity within the pump at times and that can lead to
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some premature failures of pumps 200 000 is a lot of miles but for that motor the pumps typically
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aren't going out on that model injectors though will open too early um they have they'll have
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problems this this definitely if this thing has not had a fuel additive in every single tank of fuel
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those injectors are prime for being worn out the only way to check them is to you've got to remove
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them from the vehicle and have them checked on a bench to make sure they open at the proper
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pressure and that they have the proper flow a diesel shop can do that for you once they're
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removed we had one so bad the other day it just had it had dirt in it and we took those injectors
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out and they flow tested every one of them and five of the six they couldn't even run on the machine
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they were so dumping so much fuel and the sixth one they could run on the machine but it was like
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80 percent overflowing uh that those were horrible the engine wouldn't even run but
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that's what happens to them they the pintals wear out that the springs don't hold that so that
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pop it just dumps fuel and then you can get that surge as the pump's trying to as it pumps it's
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got a each stroke of that thing for six of them sends pressure out and then as it backs off it's
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compensates on the next one and it can get all wonky if it's not if they're not good injectors
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if we put a pump on we put injectors on with it Steve what have you uh what else have you done
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or thought about doing or just kind of been realizing this isn't quite right and living
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with it since it started doing it uh i've did nothing i mean i do add the fuel additive uh
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nearly over time but
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yeah that's something that's just good it's good practice because the fuel supplies are
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just not what they used to be and you need that lubricity in there
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to help with that fuel for sure they're not why why is why are they not what they used to be or is
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that just old man talk because they took federal for out of it emissions okay okay but so it's so
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it's all of it not i thought you meant like it's spotty like it's not consistent but that's not
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what you mean that it is consistent that they removed all the lubrication consistently not
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what it used to be right to try to clean up the air i know a friend of mine that from uh
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volan oil he's in the fuel business and you know he'll tell me that there are different
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there are definitely different grades of fuel you know they they pull in some premium product
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that costs more money from different refineries or different i'll call them manufacturers for
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lack of a better term than others and so you're always going to get different amounts of wax
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build up in them different blends between number one and number two different the supply is going to
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be different different at different places so you want to do what you can do to get the consistency
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of the fuel which is the additives um like so the the guys that have a lot of diesel pulling that
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they don't all do it but there's a number of people that put the fuel preparers on there
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is it crazy to you that that was 20 years ago it's crazy isn't it because i was here
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which blows my mind that when that all went down i was doing this oh seven yeah oh 607
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when when they've made that determination and that cash for clunkers was almost 20 years ago i mean
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that's isn't that weird that's that one just got me yeah there was a way and i look at that i look
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i look at that fender down above my office every day and i guess the date doesn't strike me but
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we have hanging in our our lobby the last cash for clunker that we crushed we have the fender
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off of it that was in this building though that we did that right it wasn't no it was in the old
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building yeah yeah no that that that was well it had because we we had literally lost the vehicle
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it got set in behind some other trucks and uh i don't know if my dad or our our lift operator
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troy said he goes hey what's that vehicle let's let's check the number on that is that one of
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those clunkers oh shoot we we missed one and and and then i said i go hey let's pull the fender
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off and i had all the employees sign it they were there at the time that i could find and
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we hung it on the wall because we went through 1800 of those almost i don't remember the exact
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number that was sad you know of different vehicles yeah there were some really nice cars
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steve does that help you out did you get uh are you pointed in the right direction
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yes i'll just have the fuel pressure checked and do some more thinking about it there's a few
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other control items on there that could cause that uh that i think in your area there has to be
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some diesel specialists that have worked on a lot of those comments i know in our market
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you know there's two or three that everybody kind of knows is a good go-to place everywhere
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and in our part of the world you find out and just ask around and say okay who's the
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best one to work on my comments and you'll you'll get a list of at least three if not five
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steve thanks very much for the call good luck 866-594-4150 let's go to north dakota and talk
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to brian you're on the end of the hood show brian what can we do for you
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hey gentlemen um i've got an o3 f-150 with the 5-4 um i had a bad starter so i replaced
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the starter in the process the battery cables because the truck came from northeast minnesota
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roughed just about as much as the truck so i replaced the battery cables um second starter
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went in and it uh the replacement starter that i put in the first time after i replaced the battery
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cables it worked maybe three or four times and then didn't work i got it from a junkyard so it was
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no big deal um i did order a new starter now from rock auto put it in and it uh went belly up so i'm
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not sure if it's the starter if there's something else that i'm missing um in my starter circuit
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that's brought in these starters do you know what's bad if you removed it and tested it on the bench
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the replacement not yet no i would do that no or tested at least okay because you you might
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have if you had one cable that was that bad you might have the starter exciter wire that's bad
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or no i mean you got three cables you know you got a negative going to the block you got the
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big hot wire you got the small one you might have something going on there because i don't
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think anything's frying the starter unless you have low voltage and it's hard to crank then it'll
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wear it out if you start going low voltage you'll burn it up but if that's not the case
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who was working you know just quit that's more than likely you've got you got some power issues
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you may have to replace both the kid wouldn't be a bad idea if it's got that much corrosion in the
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cables if you found it one replace the negative cable from the battery to the block make sure it's
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clean and solid and then replace that positive cable as well from the battery to the starter
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itself they sell them as an assembly both both i replace both the positive and the uh uh negative
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negative cable then that leaves you with the exciter wire yeah that leaves you with that one
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exciter wire so you can check that for voltage you should have with it connected to the starter
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and back probed you should have battery voltage at that exciter wire when you turn the key to start
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when it's in park or neutral so if you go from the battery negative to there make sure you have
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battery voltage if you do and those other two cables are brand new and the battery's good
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then likely the starters out but my guess is that you're not going to have power at that
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exciter where we replace a lot of those pigtails on the end that exciter wire on the end because
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they they just they corrode through and and don't make a good connection sometimes we put them all
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together and we think anything's good and then it doesn't start on the test drive we've got to remove
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it and replace it i always go ahead i always when you're on a test drive and you're you leave the
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shop a couple miles away and it dies no it's when we so what we do is we started in the shop
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that's the beginning of the test drive is when we start the engine for the first time
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we start it we run it run until it's warm we check for oil there has to be times where you
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take a car that you think you've fixed you go out and you're you've stranded yourself um yeah i've
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only had to be rescued maybe twice in 30 years and none of them were air lifts i was able to get
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the car restarted again um you know so i i bet that's happened 20 times or maybe 30 or 40 where
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but i was able to get it restarted and get myself back somehow but the couple times where it was
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when i drove it and i said i wonder if i shut this off and restart it if it's going to cure
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whatever's going on i just wanted to check that and or i wanted to shut it off wait 30 seconds
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restart it to try to start a different drive cycle and i shut it off and then the car was dead
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and i was like what just happened why and then then i hear you know oh it had a bad battery or
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whatever but we run it we we get it warm we look for leaks we check for pending codes then we drive
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it um around about a 13 mile loop we shut it off let it cool down we check for pending codes and
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leaks again and then we drive it one more time so we've usually got every car is usually got 26 miles
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on it before it leaves on two drive cycles so when somebody picks one up you can have just
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a weird coincidence they pick it up and as soon as they pick it up something's wrong with it or
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they make it to the gas station across the street something's wrong like well didn't you drive it
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i actually drove it two times over 26 miles well i was just thinking that could i could i would
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that could be my job doing the test drive but i wouldn't they'd be like oh did the how did the
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front strep sound i'd be like i don't know i was listening to music too loud so it wouldn't be i
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wouldn't be a good you'd be a bad test driver hey brian uh you know in our world
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you know i'm selling parts all day long and when you have three items that don't work something's
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going on because yeah you know you got your original equipment ford starter that plausible
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completely with that age and road corrosion and stuff in our part of the world that that starter
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could be junk you grab another starter and you did use the j word and i'll let you down lightly on
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that jump start he didn't say jump start he said j u n k y r d junk start yeah and so but typically
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like at our operation if we're selling somebody a starter it's coming off a vehicle that we've already
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started ran you know all these things so it can be bad sometimes setting they just don't work again
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but that's very unusual um and then you get a brand new one from rock auto whether it's the
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chinese one that they had or if it's some other one um if it was a motorcraft uh you know the
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likelihood of that being bad also is you know those three things in a row are very very high when we
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we get used to we used to have a bench tester for starters and customers would bring back starters
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and we would test them and i don't want to get hyperbole but over 50 percent of the time
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i'd say closer to 75 percent of time when we bench test it at the starter work just fine
39:52
how about the ignition modules when we test those and probably 95 percent of them were good
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yeah and so in the car so then you could look at the the customer and say you know what you're
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gonna have to dig a little deeper we'll take the refund that's fine we found out though that the
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the exchanges and refunds were so low we didn't invest in the tester anymore oh interesting yeah
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math didn't make sense for the time brian thanks very much for the call good luck
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866594415 oh that's the number to reach us here at the
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end of the hood show let's go to massachusetts and talk to marianne marianne you're on the end of
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the hood show what can we do for you north dakota huh i'm so far away i was hoping you guys could
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work on my car anyway we could maybe help you with where to look we're gonna do our best and yeah
40:40
can you can you say north dakota again north dakota she was trying
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you just can't quite get that north dakota north dakota northern minnesota
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so the more i say it the later some especially with the east coast accent right
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well i i'm european originally so i have many accents that's fun it's a lot of fun well how
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can we help you today with your with your vehicle marianne thank you very much so listen uh i'm a
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single woman with a little frenchie dog and i have a 2006 Hyundai asera and i'm having follows
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with the sunroof it doesn't close and open anymore and i call it dealership and that's
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is that an electric problem or is that a motor problem what is it do doing or not
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doing on this uh 0600 what's it what's going on there okay it doesn't close all the way
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and it doesn't uh it doesn't like lock when it goes forward it doesn't lock so i had to push it
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all the way and put and put pressure on it so i could close it so when it rains that doesn't come
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through it but i think of course i did the best i could and it looks good but i would like to have
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a stick and i call the dealership and they want to have the car the agnose how do you say that word
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the agnose i diagnose they want to look it over yes yes it would they be able to fight doing that
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would they be able to tell me what is wrong or are they just making that up they want 250 dollars
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well here sunroofs can be true tricky but if you have someone that is familiar
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with them you might have this is i'm done with something just gonna say it you might have a
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good success rate going to a collision shop instead of a mechanic shop because the problem
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could be physical in the sunroof if it engages power and will move back and forth is that true
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yes but it doesn't close all the way okay so that you know that that feel you know the yeah it kind
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of goes up at the end yeah because it drops down and slides back and then when it gets to the front
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it usually comes back up again into the hole because out here is that what you mean marianne
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yeah it's exactly okay so do you ever wait you for it no i don't absolutely do not
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but um oh my god if you if you have power where you can move the glass back and forth
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typically that means the electrical system is intact some vehicles have like a second
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stage or a second motor but not this one that is a mechanical operation that as that windows
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slides back the tracks have a little eccentric that drops it down and as they move forward
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that same eccentric makes it rise back up into the into the hole now if you have it back up into
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the hole and wedged up there somehow and all your drains are working you should be okay as far as
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rainwater goes and all those things as long as you have it all the way up because it's not the sunroof
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that completely seals it does most of it but it's there's there's like channels and drains that drain
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the water out my my guess is that there's probably something either jammed or broken in the physical
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mechanism of the sunroof and do you use the sunroof a lot um or have you used it a lot in the
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life of the car no no but um no actually not um sometimes well um you know sometimes you do use
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it but well I just Mary Ann that's okay I was just wondering if you if you had used it a lot
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then I could say you wore something out but if you don't use it a lot it could be something that is
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dry and it's not pivoting the way it's supposed to and it's jamming and just saying I don't want to
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go anymore I don't have enough oomph in this circuit there's not enough power there's
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not enough amps to do what it needs to do and it'll just stop so I would get to what I would look for
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is a small collision shop and you know doesn't have to be the Hyundai dealer doesn't have to be
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that it's somebody that has a mechanical aptitude and I'm guessing for a walk out in the parking lot
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and maybe a quick conversation with you and running the sunroof back and forth and watching it
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with someone that would be just as intrigued of your of your charm as we are that they would
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look at that and say looks like this is broke right here and then the answer is don't try to fix
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that unless they can see I can just pop this back into place or I can replace this little
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mechanism which is available the new sunroof assembly is extremely expensive people commonly
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buy used assemblies they just buy the whole thing it's a little bit of a trick to put them in
46:21
you got to drop the headliner down and sometimes pull a back glass sometimes you can wiggle them
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and get them out the back door but it's something that can be replaced as a complete mechanism
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you could find one on car dash part I think quite easily they're kind of hard to ship so hopefully
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there's one where you can drive to get it but that would be the solution but I'm guessing if you
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get to a collision shop and talk to the right person they could probably fix it for you and they
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might be able to say here we got it closed now don't ever open it again put put tape over the
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