We Drove the $1.2M Aston Martin Valhalla: Is It Worth It?

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It's a way to vibrant Patreon community as well.

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It's so fun.

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We had a nice chat with them and they they made comments.

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I'm going to do that a lot.

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You have to get the FBI involved.

I don't know how you get there.

Ten second delay in the Patreon line.

I just think no, no, no, no.

Yeah.

No, Zuckerman.

Anyway, Matt Ferris here.

We're excited to have you here, Matt.

Johnny Lieberman here.

He brought a car.

Let's just start.

I've got so much to ask you about.

Sorry, I didn't bring a car.

I had a Vantage S that I gave back this morning.

Nice car.

What a delight.

Yeah.

Which one?

The new Vantage S.

Ask the more nice.

And it's, you know, S stands for sorted.

Yeah.

By the time Aston Martin gets to the S, they're very well in the thing for like 12 years.

Very well said.

And man, you should, you should give them a buzz.

So Matt and I went on the launch of the Vantage Roadster.

Yeah, we shared a car.

And it was, yeah, it was fun.

First time in like 100 years, but they like it just was so much better than the Coupe.

And we're like, we're like, what did you change?

You know, just lying British, you know, and then finally he's like the transaxle mount.

We redid the transaxle mount.

And then to drive the Vantage S, I had to do like a zoom call with their engineers.

And they'd mention all this stuff.

And I said, did the transaxle mount change make it?

And they're like, how do you remember that?

But yes, it was crucial.

Yeah.

No, it's really good.

The ride is great.

That's the transaxle mount.

Yeah.

No, the ride is beautiful.

It's a really, really lovely car.

And actually now that like now that everything else has gotten so insanely expensive.

Yeah.

The one I just gave back was like loaded.

It was 240, which is a huge amount of money.

The consequence point.

It's a huge amount of money, but actually it seems like a pretty good value.

But like, yeah, it's not.

It's not crazy.

I've never seen you guys so enthusiastic.

I mean, the vanquish was one car, one Aston.

Oh, the vanquish did Valhalla too.

But you're saying this guy right here.

Yeah, it's lovely.

I got a, if you go to driving with Johnny, I got a full review of it up, but it's yeah, it's killer.

Yeah.

I did.

I didn't get this car.

I don't know.

Did you ask?

No.

I mean, I asked very, I asked, I didn't just ask.

I asked repeatedly.

You did?

Yeah.

I also got to do Valhalla though.

The car that the, that was, I hear it's good.

That was up on your side, right?

It's so nice.

Yeah.

That's it.

You need to throw that up.

Throw up Matt Ferris.

And you know, nobody does a press launch like Aston when they have a race track.

There is a level of freedom when Aston Martin does, does not exist at any other OEMs.

I ran a Valkyrie off the track.

They didn't know.

Yeah.

They were watching.

Well, I'm sorry you're paying attention.

You want to talk about what's didn't, here's a little teaser, BTS.

I, people, we never have BTS.

If we have good footage, it's in the video.

Why would we hold it back for, but now I have a Patreon.

And so Aston, I had free reign to do whatever I wanted with this car, which basically meant

drifting it for two hours and eventually being a hero comes back and I spun it into

a gravel trap and had to get towed out.

And the video of that is on the Patreon.

Oh, that's cool.

It is not.

Well, show us the car.

It's awesome.

What are we looking at?

So sorry.

It's a video turned into a reel, but you get it.

So it's 1064 horsepower.

It's a carbon tub.

The chief engineer.

His name was Andrew K.

He did the 720 s.

Right.

My hero, my hero, the greatest.

Yes.

And, and, and you have, you know, total commitment from Aston.

They, they made their own carbon tub.

They supposedly they claim.

Is this going to be an ultra limited car?

9,000.

A thousand units.

A thousand.

Yeah.

And how much?

1.2.

Yeah.

Is this your spin out right here?

No, that's not on Instagram.

You gotta be at the page.

What was all the smoke?

Oh, I was sliding, but it didn't spin there.

I did a lot of sliding.

So I spoke with Matt and Jethro Bovington about the Valhalla and they both were

just like, I drifted the tires off of it.

Jethro did two sets of tires, actually.

Is this the car they designed that didn't have a reverse gear?

So it has an electric reverse gear.

So they made an electric.

They had an engineering idea where they'd had an electric motor.

The 9.11 hybrid has that.

The McLaren Artura.

Artura has that as well.

You just pull a gear out.

So does the Revuelto.

A lot of it.

And so does the Valkyrie.

The Valkyrie.

But the motors.

Does the 918 as a matter of fact.

But there's no connection between the motors, right?

There's two motors at the front.

Electric motors at the front.

That are completely disconnected from the back.

And from each other.

Like the Corvette ZR1X or E-Ray has one motor at the front with a traditional differential.

So it's not as like torque vectory special.

This thing, I mean, among the other, all the crazy things it does.

It is the first car to really take advantage of using the 3E motors as the traction control.

So it has a very, very trick traction control system that really invisibly pulls power.

In a way that more than anywhere else doesn't feel like it's pulling power.

I've talked with Rivian engineers about that.

And what they say is like what's great about electric motors is they understand surfaces.

In other words, you're sending X amount of power to a wheel and you're getting Y amount of rotation.

So Y is then equal based on the differential of what it's sending versus what it's spinning.

That equals gravel, that equals grass, sand, snow, mud.

So the Tigers actually know what's happening.

This isn't really a traditional looking Aston Martin anymore, is it?

No, but this is kind of what they're going to be going for now.

New design language.

I mean, it's got, the front grille is evocative of what you'd expect from an Aston Martin.

The rear three-quarter is very McLaren 7 series.

The center bit is sort of inspired by the Valkyrie, but much more normally sized.

Much more Koenigsegg-y.

And there's also definitely some Koenigseggs, some AMG-1.

I mean, with aerodynamics and cooling, like you're going to get familiarity around this whole genre of car.

But what's really nice is the packaging of the interior.

It's super comfortable to drive and easy to get in and out of.

And then it's, you know, when you have a car that's so fast that you couldn't possibly use what it's got on a public road,

the question then becomes, well, is it fun at the speed you can use on a public road?

And the inputs, the feedback, the way the gearbox and the tires talk to you, the steering ratio, the ride,

those are all dialed in.

So at five or six tenths on a road, you're having a pretty good time in this thing.

And I feel the same way about the car.

You would drive this around town, you're saying?

You would take this?

It's fine around town.

It's smooth.

It rides okay.

But I'm talking about on a canyon road versus on a racetrack.

On the highway, it's very nice.

The Valkyrie, which I didn't get to drive it on the road, but I did some low speed stuff.

It's just never fun.

It's overwhelming.

I'm in a competition machine.

I'm going to go deaf because it's 127 decibels.

The space shuttle launched at 125 decibels.

It's an insane thing.

Yeah, this is a car.

That's a roller coaster.

This is seems to be where Porsche wants to go now.

Well, they're telling you, aren't they?

Yeah.

But they're making a lot about, I'm reading a lot about, you know, we can't make profit

in these other cars.

We now have to create hypercars and I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense.

Are you going to sell enough of those?

So I've done this math a few times and I just wrote a road and track piece that's coming out

maybe today, possibly tomorrow.

That's about, I find it problematic that, you know, there's 3400 billionaires in the

world.

I mean, that's not the part I find problematic, although that's a different story.

But let's be generous and say half of them like cars.

And rich people are going to rich.

Look, I mean, look, I'm so glad that Paul Zuckerman likes BMWs and Porsche's instead of

senators.

You know what I'm saying?

Like rich people going to rich.

We were discussing senators.

Okay.

Well, I'm not joking.

Right.

So like, you know, it's not, it's not just that it's like the buying habits, but like

what you just said has come up in conversation multiple times where manufacturers are bending

their product lines to this very small number of ultra, ultra, ultra rich people.

Yeah.

And, you know, Aston Martin, I'm worried they're going to get rid of the vantage and

the lower end models and just do stuff like this and be, you know, and it's not like,

it's not like anyone owes up middle class people a car, but like it just would suck.

I just was $140,000 is not for the middle class.

I just didn't understand the why.

The huge market moves up, you know, the whole thing.

I don't understand why, how you're making money if you're just making a hypercar in

your Porsche.

Because it's charging so much.

But it seems like if you're Porsche, you'd want to develop the lower end and go, let's

put some new models down here.

The margins are so much higher.

Make more of them, sell more of them.

What's the quick hit?

That seems like where the money is.

It's not a long term play, but it's a quick hit.

No, I think it is.

You mean like, so you mean like do a Mercedes?

I'm saying why?

I mean, you can do a Mercedes, but backed out is that we can't make any money on the

A and the GL, whatever it's called, GLB.

But why wouldn't you go, okay, I'm running Porsche, which I will be shortly.

Right.

They call me up and they say it's time for you to take over.

Right.

We're going to reboot the 356 and here's what it is.

Maybe we're going to get Freeman Thomas to come in and design it and it's going to be

affordable and it's going to be a Porsche and it's going to be cool.

Is that the Cayman?

Huh?

Isn't that the Cayman?

No, that's not.

It's below the 920.

It's below the Cayman.

It's below the Cayman and it's more 35060.

It's a new model.

It's a new idea.

But I mean, the point being developing the lower end might be the answer, not developing

one hypercar that they sell a thousand of them and none of us can get them.

I think the margins are so good on those, dude.

On the hypercars.

Especially if you're already Porsche.

If you're starting a hypercar, if Johnny wants to build a hypercar or our friend Sasha

Salipinov wants to build a hypercar, different story.

But if you're already Porsche, building a hypercar has incredible margins.

That's a leg up.

Incredible.

And your customers bitch less when things go wrong.

I agree.

They sweep things under the road.

I just don't think that solves their money problems right now.

I think it's a quick shot.

A quick hit.

And I think everyone, the first people to figure it out, they're wrong.

They figure it out.

Everyone's chasing that.

Well, in a couple of weeks, Andreas Pruninger's coming on.

Oh, really?

We'll get him to open up about all of it.

Tell us what's going on.

He's always an open book.

Open-ish.

But yeah.

He'll go, here's the new GT cars that we have coming out.

Here's the hypercar.

Here's the drawing of it.

Here's what we're going to call it.

He's more of an open book if you can get him at the bar on a GT3 launch.

Yes, that's true.

That's where Johnny and I-

He won't tell us anything.

But he's bringing a GT3 touring on.

Oh, that's cool that he's coming.

I have a-

He's always-

I had a scheduling conflict, so I couldn't get him when he's in town.

So cool.

That's unfortunate.

One of the many reasons-

Because I'm going-

Because I'm going racing.

Sorry, even Andy Pruninger would respect that I'm going racing.

As a matter of fact, he does not.

He didn't mention you at all.

He said, there's only one show I did when it came to LA, and it's your spike.

Yeah, yeah.

And then Porsche said, please, we have to make sure he does this show.

And I said, no problem.

That's so funny.

No problem.

It's being a GT3, so I was going to do some ads, but you said you had some Porsche news.

Yes.

And we discussed a little bit on the show.

Go ahead.

This-

Well, okay, I have a double sourced piece of news.

Okay.

A friend of mine who is in Hollywood.

Yes.

Okay, he's not necessarily in the car scene.

He was at Porsche.

Turns out he's a huge car guy.

And he sees two essentially GT3 touring cabriolets.

So in other words-

So wait, how do you connect the two?

He's there?

Yeah.

At the factory?

And he sees-

No, no, he's at Visar.

And he sees these things.

He sees them.

But they don't think-

They just think he's a TV guy, so he wouldn't know nothing.

I see.

But he's a giant car nerd.

I see.

And he has like a fleet of vehicles.

Like an unbelievable amount of-

Did he snap a photo?

No, no, no.

We had lunch and he said, hey.

I saw these two cars.

I saw these two.

And they are.

And they're-

It's a GT3 touring cabriolets.

In other words, it's a GT3 touring convertible with a back seat.

You see the margins here?

This is-

They can make this.

They don't have to make a new roof.

And then it talks to another-

And then it talks to another video on all that stuff.

They've already homologated the cab.

Yep.

This is easy.

Then I talk to another guy.

Yep.

Who would know.

This is good news.

Another guy who would know.

And I said, hey, blah, blah.

He goes, oh yeah, it's the sport cab.

Sport cabriolets.

They're going to call it the sport cab.

Yeah, the sport cab.

Right.

So.

There it is.

And they're introducing a car at Air and Water.

And they're bringing in the car.

So that's probably it.

The stars are aligning.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's big news.

It's a sport cab.

The sport cab.

The two bad seats.

You're going to have to tell people.

It sounds like a nice car.

You're going to have to tell people it's a sport cab.

But you made the funny point that my thinking the same way.

Why not just make another speedster?

Just make a speedster.

It's a better word.

Well, they already made the speedster.

No, they've made nine different speedsters.

They didn't make a new speedster.

There isn't a 992 speedster.

Yeah, I know.

They made the 991.2.

Now this is the 992.2 sport cabriolets.

This is cheaper.

That's what I'm saying.

But wouldn't you rather have a speedster than a sport cab?

I'd rather have a speedster than any 991 ever made.

No, the speedster is the greatest of them all.

In last wait, hear me out.

Do you think the people that would have bought speedsters are now like,

I need my kids in the back.

Yes.

Because that's why people want it.

Two camera.

Boom.

But they also those people might not like speedster humps.

The speedster hump is also there's some people I don't want the humps.

They don't like humps?

Yeah.

For the record, I like a little backseat.

I don't mind that.

We ordered our GT3 Touring that's coming in a couple months ago.

So are you here or less likely to buy a sport cab than if it were a speedster?

Look, I can tell you right now I'm not interested in that car at all.

Okay.

Should one be offered to me?

A lot of times they catch me in weak moments and I say yes.

So funny.

I always go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cool because it's months down the line and then we forget about it.

So I don't, I don't know.

There's very little that I say no.

That's so funny.

You know my partner.

Yes, I do.

Morris Solomon.

No, I understand.

Why that shit?

Just get it.

All right, let me read some of that.

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He told the great Pope story.

Hanging with the Pope.

He was hanging with the Pope and gave the Pope a Ford Explorer.

Yeah.

He didn't want it in white.

He wanted it in black.

Really?

And then he delivered it personally.

Is it Pope?

Is it Pope Mobile Up or is it just a regular?

No, it's just a Ford Explorer to drive around the Vatican.

And then they went driving around the Vatican.

And the Pope looked over and he was pretty cool.

And Jim went, what?

He goes being driven by the Pope.

And he goes, right.

That is pretty cool.

That's pretty funny.

Most people who go to visit the Vatican, they stand and wait for him.

Maybe he'll come out.

Now look at this.

Ford Explorer.

So he just wanted something to experience driving within the walls of the Vatican?

I think, well, he's from Chicago.

And they make the Ford Explorer in Chicago, I guess.

Oh, right.

So Jim just called up and said, hey.

Hey, Pope.

Would you like one?

Oh, no, no.

He had a friend who knows the Pope.

When the Pope's from Chicago.

He got the Pope.

Everybody knows him.

Oh, that's Bob.

My cousin's room.

Yeah.

He got the Pope's email.

And the Pope, he sent him an email.

The Pope emailed him back.

And the first thing in the line in the email said, do not share this email.

But hello.

Because imagine the Pope's email.

If it's like every other celebrity I've met, it's going to be Pope at Vatican.com.

Yeah, exactly.

Have you ever met a celebrity who's giving you an email address and you're like, stop.

I can't even say who.

This can't be your email address.

I had one recently that I'm like, fuck off.

I had someone get mad at me because I shared their email the other day.

And I'm like, oh my God.

Give me a fucking great email.

You can't fucking delete the email.

You don't want to read.

I got 300 of them in the spam file.

Oh, dude, you want.

I'm going to delete you.

I'm approaching a milestone so rapidly.

I have 99,900 unread emails in my inbox.

I'm so close.

That would give me such anxiety.

So close, dude.

I have, can you be 99K?

No, but I have a lot.

Can we talk about cards?

Sure.

What do you got?

55,000, so on.

Let's talk about this Toyota behind us.

Hang on, suspicious credit card activity detection.

What?

Yeah, I got it.

You've got a Toyota Land Cruiser.

Yes.

Let's talk about it.

All right.

So wait, let's back me up on the Toyota Land Cruiser.

Because this car kind of flew into my life under the radar.

I see him around the west side.

When did we reboot this guy?

About two years ago.

Two years ago.

So what happened was they killed it off in 2020.

And that was what was known by nerds as the LC 200.

And that was a real, quote unquote, real Land Cruiser.

That was a big V8, heavy, small gas tank, three row,

but like undestructible, unimpeachable, hardcore off-roader

that for some reason Americans thought was a luxury vehicle.

Yeah.

Built to like a 25 year expected life cycle.

And Toyota said, you know what?

We're going to make more money if we sell them all as Lexuses.

So they have what they call a landlocked factory,

meaning they can't expand it.

So they're going to sell 10,000 units a year.

Might as well sell 10,000 for $5,000 more than sell 5,000 for 5,000.

Got it.

That was the thing.

But they're like, we're going to bring in the next Prado,

which is the Land Cruiser Junior.

And this chassis is now called the LC 250.

We're going to bring that in as a two row Land Cruiser.

It won't be as hardcore as the old Land Cruiser is.

However, Americans don't actually go off-road.

So it's totally fine.

And it'll be cheaper.

Well, a little bit cheaper.

Yeah.

Well, it starts it in the fifties.

So you can technically get, I mean, it is cheaper.

It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

This one sits at $71,200.

The old Land Cruiser, it had one option.

So I remember this very well.

It's either $86,000 or $88,000.

That's what it was.

Is it wheels?

No, it was an interior thing.

Maybe it's the third row.

No, it was like a comfort package or something.

It's not the most attractive thing from this angle.

I'm not a fan of these headlights.

There are different headlights.

I do, I will say I love the gold white roof

and then the brown leather interior.

I think it's a killer combo.

And Cam will obviously show off the brown leather interior.

It's pretty good as an off-roader.

Matt's going to talk about that because he's taken off-road,

but it's got a rear locker, a center locker.

It's got all of Toyota's off-road modes

and it's got a solid rear axle.

Disconnected sway bars.

Super torquey hybrid system.

Matt, take over with the off-road stuff.

So, I mean, look, I thought this thing

and I drove it on the same relatively small wheels

that this one's on.

There's a version that comes on some meaty or rubber,

but these are the smaller wheels.

Maybe I think I might be reacting to.

Is the smaller wheels?

There's one that comes on wheels that are more similar

to what you've got on your Bronco.

Also real quick, Toyota just makes the ugliest wheels

in the industry.

They can't get wheels right.

They put dopey looking tires on it.

I could aftermarket.

I've seen these on proper wheels and tires.

Yeah, they look good.

They look chill.

That looks dinky.

This is like a all-season Michelin,

which is fine for driving around.

And if you were buying one of these to drive on the street,

honestly, the road noise, the fuel economy,

all that stuff, you're probably better off

with this kind of tire.

But what is that?

That's the opener for the glass.

So it has a glass.

That's nice.

The standalone glass opens roof.

Excuse me, rear hatch.

See, I like the back end of it a little more.

Back is better than the front.

Yeah.

You know, they sell it with two different front faces.

They do.

So the other one you may like better,

it has like different shaped headlights kind of.

It's the 1958.

Which is Toyota for base.

It's the base one.

But also, yeah, the first Land Cruiser came to the US in 1958.

Yeah, but that's what it means in Land Cruiser speak.

So off-road, look, it's super competent, right?

It has all the fancy gizmos with the diffs

and the sway bar disconnect.

The hybrid system gives you good torque filling.

You know, you really get that zero to one mile an hour boost

from the hybrid system that helps get you going in traction

and crawl over rocks and stuff like that.

I think, because I also drove the forerunner like TRD Pro,

I think the Land Cruiser is a much more desirable product

that achieves essentially the same goal as the forerunner does now.

And it's like way less bro-y.

That's the thing.

I just had the Trailhunter two weeks ago.

And it's just like...

Like driving a UFC fight.

Yeah.

Well, I was saying, why?

If you look at the front end, it's like so bro-y.

It's got like a frown on top of a frown.

And then like everything in the interior is like,

big giant controls are for meat hands.

Yeah.

As someone who has meat hands, it's just kind of childish.

This is much more luxurious.

Dude, try the Sequoia.

Yeah.

The TRD Sequoia is personally delivered to you by Dana White.

You get a, you get a manosphere influencer.

Who was talking about that?

How like the Tundra has become the official truck of Texas.

Yeah.

Crazy.

They love it.

It was built in Texas.

So I had, I actually had the Lexus version of this.

Yeah.

Also the GX and I like, it's more expensive.

And I liked the Toyota one better.

Did you?

I thought this platform worked a little better at the lower end of its price point.

The $84,000 Lexus one that I drove that still sort of felt like a Toyota.

Cause I, I drove like this, a couple of years ago, I drove this version.

I remember it was about $72,000.

And then I drove like a $77,000 V6 Lexus.

Yeah.

And so without the hybrid system, you get more room in the back.

You do get that.

Yeah.

And I, to me, the Lexus felt a little more maybe G baby G wagony in a sense.

So yeah, my questions with the truck, like, okay, 71,000, that's like 1500 bucks more

than the trail hunter I had.

Which one's a better off-roader?

Um, I, I saw like a, you know, LC 200, like a, you know, five year old Land Cruiser on

the way here today.

And I was kind of like ashamed to be in this, you know, so like,

you know, we got, you know, we got in storage last week, we got a 2010 Land Cruiser.

Yeah.

With 600 miles.

Oh my God.

It is brand new.

That's fantastic.

It's crazy.

That's fantastic.

Yeah.

And so, and that's the thing.

Those, like, I think they've done themselves a bit of a, I don't know, honestly disservice,

but like, I remember years ago, I was at a friend's house and she had a Range Rover.

And we pulled it up and I was driving the Land Cruiser.

And she's like, what's this?

And I'm like, this is a Toyota Land Cruiser.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And she was having problems with the Range Rover, like, you know, the windows didn't work

or whatever.

And I go, you should get this.

Cost the same, you know, about 90,000, 90,000.

And she's like, I don't get it.

It's a Toyota.

And then she's like, Hey, my neighbor, he's got a warehouse full of cars.

He heard you here.

He wants to meet you.

You know, is it cool if he comes over?

I'm like, absolutely.

Guy pulls up in a 2000.

I was a 2000 year 2000 Land Cruiser.

And she's like, why do you both have this car?

And I turned to him and I go, how many miles do you have on?

He goes, hmm, about 200,000.

I goes, anything broken.

He goes, no.

You know, yeah.

That's why it just worked.

And so those were so wonderful.

And I just don't know if this it's not, it's never going to have that sense of, oh my God.

No, it's just in name only type of thing.

Yeah.

I like saying I have a Land Cruiser.

I like, I have a Bronco.

You know what I mean?

In other markets, like the Land Cruiser Prado that they were selling, which is the junior

Land Cruiser was, it was brought here as the Lexus GX.

So the all, since it got went back.

No, I know the Lexus GX was basically that.

Which is a pretty nice.

But you don't get the same pop from that, right?

But they do make the also the big chassis is called the LC 300.

So it's here now as the Lexus.

What is the LX 700?

I think that's big number.

700 H.

Yeah.

But, but they make a Land Cruiser for like Australia and the Middle East.

That is the big platform three row.

It's not, it's a twin turbo hybrid V six.

Like they could bring it here and we would have a quote unquote real.

But yeah.

But also twin turbo V six hybrid doesn't sound particularly.

It's not what that Land Cruiser customers really look.

You want that just simple go forever.

Yeah.

I just, you know, if you have a 200,000 miles on a twin turbo V six hybrid.

Congratulations.

Probably because that's the power plan of the tundra.

I mean, it's it's sort of.

There you go.

There's the Toyota Land Cruiser.

Come on back Cameron.

What's this?

This giveaway you're doing that fair 911 Turbo S giveaway.

Yeah.

No, it's thank you.

Thank you for letting me come plug it.

We're, we're giving away 911 Turbo S.

I mean legit.

We're working with this company dream giveaways.

They've been around for a long time.

They've done hundreds of.

They haven't been rated by the FBI.

They have not been rated by the FBI.

Soon.

Far as I know.

Maybe soon.

And this is a year long.

No, it's not.

The FBI has changed.

They have different priorities.

Crime is legal by the way.

Crime is legal.

No, no.

They it goes from March until August 20th of this year.

Of this year.

Okay.

What what year 911 Turbo is a new one.

A brand 2025.

We have a picture of this.

It's yeah.

There it is.

It's not the hybrid.

It's a 992.1.

Okay.

Turbo S in ice gray.

It is loaded up.

This thing has.

It's a it's a full gray extended leather interior with yellow

seatbelts, contrast, yellow stitching, yellow gauges,

eight track tape player, eight track tape player for sure.

It has.

It has a real.

It has a glass roof.

It has really it has a rear wiper.

Oh, it has sold painted.

It has body color painted engine engine.

Hawaii.

Why do we love the rear wiper?

It's just the coolest thing.

I was just using mine on the way over here for no reason.

Yeah.

On the Bronco.

It's it's just the best thing.

You know, it's funny.

I actually.

So this way it says no miles on it.

Well, it it's brand new.

I we got it with with no miles on.

We got it with 50 miles on it.

It is brand new and it's on MSO.

It's your the winner will be the first owner of the car.

Got it.

But in order to create content for the giveaway,

Zach and I put like 1500 miles on the car.

So it's got 1500 and something miles on it.

You're free car.

But it's new.

Well, that was one of the videos.

We did the break it.

So that was like, so you get the car, you can just hop in it

and straight to the launch control because Zach and I did

1100 miles of boring low RPM highway.

Mike doesn't even breaking the engine.

However, that's fine.

Okay.

It's not that it's not a belief system really.

Oh, it is.

It's I won't be a non-believer.

It's not that I'm a non-believer.

No, this car won't be with you for long enough for this.

It's not even that problem.

I don't I don't abuse the car in the way that would affect

the engine in the break period.

But I do subscribe to the Bert Olander Circle Porsche.

He was Steve McQueen salesman.

He goes, you have a little fun every now and again.

And it's not going to harm the car.

That's what he would say.

So go ahead, rev it up, listen to it for a second.

Yeah.

His theory was just don't don't drive it on the highway

at high RPMs that wouldn't be recommended during the

breaking period for long periods of time.

Yeah.

Don't a little goose here and there.

Whatever.

So we did we did the break in so you don't have to.

We also modified it a little bit.

We did some wheels still exhaust.

Okay.

Do the old wheels come with it?

Yes.

It comes with all the stock parts.

All the stock parts.

Okay.

And so.

Yeah.

What do we do?

What does this work?

There's a in my Instagram bio, you know, the usual Lincoln

bio, the smoking tire Instagram.

There's a right inside there.

There is.

There's the link to enter.

Also, you don't have to buy it.

You follow Matt cam right there.

Right at the top.

That's okay.

I forgive you.

You could still use a Lincoln bio even if you don't follow me

and use that and you can you can buy X number of tickets.

There is a charitable element to it.

You can read all the rules and regulations.

You don't it's not limited to some of the money goes to charity.

Yes, it is to support a charity.

Yes.

And what if you don't sell enough tickets to pay for the car?

I am not financially involved by the investor in this.

I am the I am the marketing part of it.

So that's their issue.

This is their issue.

They they have the car.

And the charity is the Brentwood Country Club.

It's 1199.

The 1199 foundation.

Very concerned with trees.

Yeah.

And taking care of that catty that smashed that car in a road rage

incident that still has not been prosecuted by LAPD.

It still has not.

Jesus.

As I presented presented all the evidence and gave the guy a free

out.

Man, you apologize.

You give me 50 bucks.

I'll eat the rest of the cost.

And I quote.

Fuck you.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

And not his first instance, by the way.

All I'm going to say is be very careful at the stop sign in

front of the Brentwood Country Club because if you run it and

this particular catty comes out, your car is going to get attacked.

That's physically by a crazy man who looks like John Candy.

Hasn't had a haircut in a very long time.

Yeah.

Okay.

Spectacular.

Wow.

Did like $600 worth of damage to my aluminum hood.

Get out of here.

With his fists.

There's a literal catty at the country club wearing a.

Was he carrying a bag?

He was leaving.

It's one of those four way stops.

But the way this four way stops work works is when you see people

leaving the country club, you can't see them coming out.

They're stopping a little head of this like edge.

Yeah.

Which is maybe what we can use this charity money to do is trim the

head back.

That's what it's for.

Yes.

So I just California stop it.

Not seeing him.

He apparently this is his thing.

Really?

If you run this, he has to leave it every day.

If you do this, he's got a lot of pent up.

I see.

And he went bonkers.

I'm on the phone with Zuckerman.

He's deputized himself.

I got this gorilla.

I'm talking to Zuckerman.

We're having the nicest conversation about our day.

Spike.

And I go, I made a grown man cry.

I was like, I got this maniac.

He goes, just go around him.

So I'm on the phone with Zuckerman.

I go because he's break checking me.

I just go around the guy to get up to the stop sign.

The next beat.

He just gets out of his car, just starts.

He goes like this.

And I'm like, holy shit, suck him.

I'm trying to get the camera going.

Dude, you need a dash cam sponsor immediately.

Yeah.

And he puts these big dents in there.

In which car?

The Bronco.

This is the car behind me.

Get out of here.

And I'm still upset that I couldn't get the camera right.

It was the greatest footage ever.

I'm glad my membership.

I got him running away.

I got him off to the side.

I got the rest of it.

Yeah, right, right.

This is why they need charities.

Look, I voted for this.

Anyway, I was at that meeting at the Brentwood Country Club

meeting where I voted to have the crazy caddy guy beat the shit

out of anybody's car.

I think the Brentwood Country Club, I later learned,

because I obviously know people who belong to that club,

and they're like, oh yeah, this isn't his first time.

There was an incident with a knife.

I'm like, do tell.

With a knife.

And the Country Club's official statement was,

well, it didn't exactly happen on our part.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

OK.

That's our property line.

Where are the cops?

That's not the real point.

Do you know who Ratameck is?

Because you are employing Ratameck.

And I said, and I was reasonable, right?

He's having a bad day.

We've all had bad days.

I've had a lot of bad days.

I never smashed a car with my fists.

Have you ever carried 36 for a $15 tip?

Actually, for less.

I used to caddy in high school.

Yeah, it's horrible.

And I gave the guy an out.

And I said, look, you did $600 worth of damage.

My guys came over and they banged it out here in the pictures.

Just so you know.

And he told me to fuck off.

He told me to fuck off.

Kind of like this guy.

And then I said, you know,

you don't even have to pay for it.

Just tell me you're sorry for what you did.

Just give me something.

Right, right.

And again, he told me to fuck off.

He accused me of this conspiracy of I go around LA

and I do this.

You break check people.

Ripping people on.

You need $600.

It's a scheme.

The guy's a maniac.

You're a fucking rear end gypsy.

Except I'm at a stop sign and he's freely admitting

in the text.

And he's out of his car.

And I said, dude, when you get out of a car in traffic,

you're done.

You admitted guilt.

You've admitted guilt in this text.

I just don't do that.

Don't go down this road.

It's not worth getting arrested.

I'm counseling my abuser.

Yeah.

We were so crazy.

So funny, dude.

Yeah.

And I had to break off contact.

So yeah.

Now we're waiting and prosecutors.

It would be amazing to find out that you're the mastermind

behind the LA rear-ending scheme.

$600 a day.

Actually, six hundred a day is not bad.

I think it's fun because he is turning out to be another

rat-a-mack.

Yeah.

He's another guy that's been doing this.

That's crazy.

Good times.

Is he moving to Hawaii?

Thanks for plugging my Porsche giveaway button.

All right.

We want to buy tickets to Matt's Porsche giveaway.

I'll buy some tickets.

It's a charitable deduction.

And for you, it's a business expense.

But I couldn't win.

Why?

Because I know you, right?

Isn't there some rule with sweepstakes that you can't?

It's my job to say that you should read the rules before

entering.

I can't enter.

I haven't read the rules.

If I entered and won, there's no little code there.

I don't think I can.

I think it says you can't enter.

I'll buy tickets anyway.

I'm pretty sure you can be my friend and win.

Does this one have the Vysox suspension?

Do you know the UT suspension?

There's an option.

It has PASM.

There's an option with the 992.1 where you can get the GT

suspension.

I don't think so.

It made it stiff, but pretty cool.

I mean, it's nice.

And we had BBI tweak it a little bit.

Oh, good.

It's got BBI suspension.

It's got these HRE wheels.

It's got a Kropovich exhaust.

It's got an IPD plenum and an M-engineering two.

Plenum.

So a little more power.

It makes over 700 horsepower.

It's so fast.

Yes.

I like it so much.

It's insanely fast.

That's my kind of car.

I love turbo.

Put it back to spike.

It's stock if you want to spike.

Put it back to spike.

You put it back to spike.

I like what you did with it.

It's a sweet car.

It's a 275 MSRP.

Wow.

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We got fired from Blue Shoe.

Yeah, because Zuckerman was sucking him up with his phone.

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She doesn't listen to this show.

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She's very upset with Blue Shoe.

She's very mad.

There's some other stuff I wanted to talk to you about,

but I thought this isn't an ad,

even though it may look like one.

But this...

Play this attorney shield thing.

Have you guys seen this?

You know, it might have been better for Zuckerman,

but put your headphones on for a second.

This is a traffic stop.

A real traffic stop.

Watch what this guy does.

Huh?

It's on FaceTime.

Oh, there's an attorney.

An attorney?

Do you normally have, like, an attorney?

I've never seen that before, I suppose.

So this guy gets stopped.

Yeah.

He presses the app.

Attorney shield.

Oh.

Attorney shield.

An attorney comes on.

No, I know the guy who invented this.

I had him on the show, like, four years ago.

Law enforcement.

And we're just a service provided that we can help people

navigate through traffic stops,

answer any questions, and form them on their rights.

And it's our goal just to make all interactions

with law enforcement as quick and safe as possible.

This could be the greatest invention I've ever seen, right?

Okay.

So you're not, like, his attorney.

You're just a attorney.

I'm an attorney.

And I am his attorney.

I am his attorney.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know this guy?

Yeah, yeah, I know the guy.

This is one of the greatest ideas I've ever seen.

I had him on my show.

Yeah.

I mean, if you think about the number of people who were shot

by mistake or the amount of injustice that goes on

or the police asking questions they shouldn't be asking

or demanding of things, having an attorney there.

Yeah.

To mediate.

Both.

And again, this is not an ad.

It's, like, 16 bucks a month.

No, it's cool.

It's super cool.

And it's like a quick activation of the app.

Yeah.

And it, like, it starts recording.

Yep.

Immediately.

And it gets, it gets you the lawyer on the phone within,

like, 30 seconds.

Wow.

Yeah.

And actually the guy who developed, and I'm such an asshole.

I'm blanking on his name, but it was like three years ago

who came on, he came on the show and was telling us about it.

Not for that reason.

His brother is a cop.

And so it was about, like, it was, this was like some peak

George Floyd era, you know, tension.

And it was a black gentleman who developed the app.

And it was about, you know, deescalating the tension of a

side stop.

Yeah.

That's what it did when I, you know, this just popped up.

You said cops were into it.

Yeah.

But the, but what you said, the deescalation of a tense moment

is what I sensed right away when I watched it.

And I just want, this is great for everybody.

Yeah.

Why was that?

Especially guys with neck and face tattoos.

Well, I would want to know, you know, it would also keep me

in line.

It would keep me from saying dumb stuff.

No, it's supposed to do both of those things.

Right.

And answering any questions I may not want to answer.

He paused the video when we first pulled it up at a weird

place.

Yeah.

And it's, it's, it's the, the, the lawyer is a picture

within a picture.

So the lawyer's picture was very small for the moment.

Yeah.

And it's a woman who's got sort of, but, but he paused it

right when she moved right there.

And it looked like, I thought you were going to say like the

guy had like a super golf lawyer.

The lawyer was like, like the crow.

Yeah.

Like the crow with that one angle.

That was where we were going.

Well, she's, I mean, the lawyer is probably sitting there

in her sweatpants, you know, and do it, you know, in her

den or at her desk.

She's not exactly ready for court, but I guess it doesn't

matter.

She knows what to say.

I have friends that do like, I don't know how you, I wish

Dr. Moon was here, but like, you get low level law where

they like hate it.

Imagine, look, we should get Zuckerman right now to create

an app.

The Zucker app.

Ingram put Zuckerman in that box right there.

There you go.

There's the Zuckerman app.

I'm going to fucking kill you.

I'm going to kill this guy.

He's a piece of shit.

I don't, I didn't want him to download this.

You can do whatever you want to.

I want you to say I'm sorry.

And then I want you to cry.

I want to see an adult man cry.

It's the revenge law app.

It has done to your cookies and spit it into his lab.

Humiliation law.

Anyway, I just thought that was my client's adult.

Thank you for using sadistic partners.

LLP.

Did you, uh, did you guys see this wreck at the good guy

car show?

Whatever that is.

This is a zero six.

No, no, I saw a cup car fly over catch.

They have an autocross.

Crazy.

You don't really need to hear the sound for this.

You'll see what happens.

You know what happens.

Here we go.

Here's the autocross.

Oh, what happened?

Hang on a minute, buddy.

You're supposed to turn there.

There's that stick.

That's got to be a little.

Oh, I felt that one.

You don't usually knock the K rail over.

No, something went wrong.

Clearly.

Yeah.

Was that like stuck throttle or something?

It's like heart attack in car foot goes right before.

But what do you guys think about autocross in general?

I love autocross.

I think that's too close to the K wall.

That's very good.

You know, autocross is.

Wait, wait.

Back it up.

Okay.

Can we.

It's probably another.

He might have had like a drag slicks on the back and maybe,

maybe.

Possibly skinnies at the front.

Watch the.

Oh, because if he had slicks and skinnies and tried to make this

corner.

You can take a second to look for another angle.

I know that there was a drone angle and there were some other.

I don't know, but that could be anything.

But autocross is stupid unless you're the one driving.

Then all.

Exactly.

Well said.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

I didn't want to say it, but that's exactly what I was thinking.

It's super.

It's stupid.

Is it super fun or is it just pylons?

No, no.

It's super fun.

I mean, I had a bad experience that put me off it for about four

years.

What was your bad experience?

I was, we're doing a McLaren day at Laguna Seca and Mark Vaughan and

Jason Camisa, who I would say are the good drivers left.

So it was me and the lifestyle people.

So we do an autocross and I'm like seconds ahead of everyone else.

And I got it in the bag.

I just do one run at the next stature.

You don't know Nick, but Nick is Nick's a lifestyle.

He's a great guy, but he's not, you know, he's not a driver.

On his third attempt at his hand time, he beats me by one hundredth of a

second and then they won't let me go again because we're out of time.

And I was like, and then I was, look at this.

All right.

Let's see this guy again.

No, no, no.

Those are regular wheels and tires.

I'm not, I'm not sure what happened there.

Possibly just bad driving or maybe.

Wait, here's, here's a view from what appears to be a hot air balloon.

What's going on?

It's a weather balloon.

I think, look, it looks like he hits the brakes just way too late.

Look, he hits the brakes like 10 feet before the wall.

You can see the weight of the car.

Did you see him get twitchy on the turn ahead of it?

If you go to the top of that, watch, watch this.

You'll see that he's something either went wrong in that turn or he's

just, he's lost.

Look, watch here.

Watch here.

He was looking at the wall.

See that little wiggle it.

Zero six.

That's a first gear corner.

Putting down 505 naturally aspirated horsepower.

That's right.

480 foot pounds of torque.

A little squiggly coming on that first gear.

Seven liter LS.

Yeah.

Seven.

LS seven.

I think.

Oh, camera looks like it wears about a size 13 triple ENB Steve.

That's a 993.

That's a classic new balance style.

But that really moved that K-Wall.

Yeah, it did.

Those were about 3,300 pounds.

I hope there aren't people under the K-Wall.

What's this?

I do like this ferris wheel angle though of whatever's happening.

What is happening?

Oh.

Here.

Oh, this guy's got it.

It is.

Problems of.

Wow.

That's not great.

I mean, there's an old expression ran out of talent.

Yeah.

I mean, ran out of stock.

They're going to sell a lot of tickets.

Oh, you're right.

He really was wiggling.

Yeah.

He was a little out of control.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Here, I wanted to pull this.

Auto cross is hard.

This is just fun.

Daniel Craig, who was James Bond, has made a deal with the Chinese EV brand Denza.

Oh, I saw the photo.

My God.

They've put out some weird photos.

Our friends at the Atopian call some attention to it.

There's one right there.

That looks like Daniel Craig growing out of the roof of the, what is this, Denza?

Dude, that looks like a straight knockoff of the car you are driving to this program,

Johnny.

That's a Chinese Land Cruiser.

But what's notable.

Very close.

This doesn't look like Daniel Craig.

It looks like a weird, his lip is, yeah, his lower lip is weird.

Go to the next photo.

They flattened him.

They flattened his lip in the bottom in a lot of ways.

It looks like he's never been in the presence of any of the cars he was promoting.

No.

No, and then they gave him a wife.

Wait, go back.

Who's the wife?

They just gave him a lady with a weird jacket.

Well, she's lovely.

Don't be so mean to her.

But you're blocking the car though.

Yeah, they're blocking the car and her jacket is distracted.

Maybe they're just leaving the good part.

That front end is very Porsche Lamborghini like.

But also the back is a weird Sport Turismo.

Yeah.

Sport Turismo.

They really, again, Chinese are making great cars, but they really can't get the design

thing.

Well, maybe this works for them.

What's the next picture?

Go ahead.

And then I'm growing out of this car.

I'm bigger than the car.

Wow.

This is a, okay.

So this is a Honda CRZ at the front.

McLaren.

Interesting.

McLaren 7 Series meets Panamera or Taycan in the center door section and then a Lucid

Gravity at the back end.

Yeah.

You know what?

It's awkward looking.

What Farley said when we were talking about Chinese cars.

He goes, you know, there are a hundred, over a hundred car brands in China.

Over a hundred.

Yeah.

A hundred.

There won't be a hundred for long.

It's like America in the 1910.

Yeah.

There won't be a hundred for very long.

It's going to go down to four.

So to stand out, you have to put a giant James Bond on top of your car.

There used to be like 30 airlines in America.

But honestly, if you said, if I said, look, Johnny, I've got 10 bucks to market my new

line of dens of cars, would you have Richard learn Photoshop and take Daniel Craig and

put them?

And it's like, literally see the cursor dragging Daniel Craig down to the roof and dropping

him right there.

You literally with like a decent AI tool, you could do something better.

Yeah.

You could have him.

I think, I think whoever one of you said it, he was nowhere near these cars.

Yeah.

But the question is, has he participated willingly or did they do the math and decide

it's better to pay the tree?

This is a common thing that back when it you actors didn't do ad, you would do ads in

Japan.

Yeah.

And you can make bank doing Brad Pitt, like Coca-Cola one, Arnold Schwarzenegger, all

that stuff.

Not so long.

So there's a long tradition of this.

But that's what I liked about the utopian day in front of us, Daniel Craig is embarrassing

everybody.

Thank you, utopian for doing that.

How much did he get paid for that last Bond movie?

It was like a hundred million.

He's done.

He's fun.

He's got his money.

But it was like a hundred mil.

He didn't want to do the last one.

And he played it right.

Yeah.

But he wanted a little gum money for his Italian vacation this summer.

So he said yes to this.

He's got a daughter.

You know, she's has needs.

What the fuck is it?

Denzel?

Yeah, whatever.

Send them these pictures.

I'm trying to close it.

J crew right now.

Here.

Just send them these pictures.

Marks and Spencer.

That's fine.

Yeah.

How many millions?

Okay, wait, I'll take some more pictures.

Get me some more of those trousers.

I need pounds.

Just make sure they flatten my lips and make my nose more bulbous.

Goodbye.

You received a PayPal for ten million dollars.

I mean, sadly, thank you, Denzel.

That's really funny.

That's how that shit went down.

Yeah.

And then this last story I wanted to cover is this Omega story.

This is an Instagram guy.

I don't know who he is, but he's been doing some good posts about watches.

Oh, wait.

And he's calling attention.

Is it Peresco?

Please don't be the guy.

I think it's Chrono-Holic.

He also did a post that I didn't post about the number of watches each company creates

in his, I don't know where he got the stats, which is why I'm not going to repost that.

But here he points out that Omega has 866 watches on its site.

And maybe that's the problem with Omega right now.

Go ahead and play this.

Omega have 866 watches on their website.

866.

I was just reading about their decline in sales.

They've lost $700 million worth of sales in the last couple of years, dropped from

second to fifth in the Morgan Stanley rankings.

And I was just wondering why and thinking about my own relationship with Omega.

So I go on their website.

I start exploring around and 866 watches seems like maybe too many watches.

Confusing.

I agree.

100%.

Less well-known lines within the Omega lineup is the constellation.

228 different variants of the constellation.

Isn't that unreal?

That's crazy.

It's super confusing to me as well.

And look at the price there.

So $9,000, okay, for the base constellation model.

However, you can also get, if you want, I can't imagine who does, 50 grand for the platinum

variation.

The platinum variation.

It's not a bad looking watch though.

The base one.

Spike once.

Special medals increase the price.

That's lovely.

He's paying 50 grand for a constellation that's bizarre.

I don't know.

But he's right.

Yeah.

He goes on to talk about lady watches, ladymatics is being kind of obsolete, old idea.

But that might be too many skews.

There are a lot of brands that I have trouble approaching like Breitling.

And I have an Omega Speedmaster because of this, like, I don't know where to go.

There's too much stuff, right?

But what do you guys think about his assessment of Omega here?

Oh, spot on.

I mean, Omega could drop down to four watches and they'd sell probably as many, you know.

I think they could cut their product line by probably 75%.

Right.

And maybe their, maybe their gross sales would go down 5%.

Yeah.

And their costs would go down.

It's a really interesting thing that that much variety keeps you away from a site.

That's just a lot of R&D, a lot of manufacturing, a lot of just skews.

But don't you feel like, you know, I haven't been to the Omega site in a long time because

I don't want to get lost?

Like I'm wandering into a forest.

I mean, I've been to an Omega store.

Yeah.

And there's three, I mean, and I'm just one person, but there's three or four items in

that store that I find personally appealing and a whole bunch of other stuff that I'm

not stopping for.

No, Rolex has the right idea, right?

They've got like what, eight, nine basically watches and a couple of weird, like, you know,

the gold presidential, which, you know, it has a specific purpose.

But look, I'm sure if you made a different skew for every dial, number, bracelet versus

strap material, I bet Rolex has almost as many, but they're, but they're not like down

$700 million a year over you.

But I mean, what I'm saying though, they're also part of a whole good trade company.

Yeah.

But like, you know, like Rolex is like, you know, the summer air and air, Datejust and

Explorer, Sky-Dweller, Yachtmaster, a couple others, Deepsea.

It's not like Omega, I've gone down that rabbit hole where it's like, ooh, like a Toro

Chrono.

No, they have more product lines, but I'm saying like, you know, with, yes, Rolex has fewer

product lines, but there are a lot of watches with it.

I think that's the confusion though, because like, you know, like, like you can have an

infinite number of 9-11 variants, that's fine.

But if you had like, you know, 17 different two-door lines, you know, that's where it gets

really confusing.

I think it's fine.

Like, okay, I'm interested in a Speedmaster and I have a ton of variety of choices in

Speedmaster, but I think it's, it's, I think Omega, like he didn't say that, they have

a lot of like crazy watches, but they stop, to me, they just stop feeling special.

Right.

Like, you know, I've owned tons of Breitlings before, but they, they, I always end up selling

them for one fourth what I bought them for.

Sure.

That's why I bought mine used on eBay for $18,000.

Yeah, right.

You know, I'll do it like that too.

And then the next year, there's a dozen more that I go, oh, this looks good too.

And then I'm like, all right, I'm giving up.

I can't keep up with this.

I like the premier they've got right now, the premier chronograph with the salmon dials.

No, they have a, I could go on a Breitling site right now and buy 10 watches.

I know.

They're really nice.

I'm not a Breitling.

But let me see this premiere.

Breitling premiere chronograph is very handsome, handsome watch.

Oh boy.

I always like his spelling.

Breitling there.

I like their Superotions.

That's pretty.

That one, B09 chronograph.

That's cool.

The third from the left.

The green dial.

Yeah, that guy.

That guy's a good example of a pretty, tasteful, lovely watch.

I love that.

40 millimeter.

All right, I'll get that.

Great looking dial.

Great looking hands.

That's like a weird avocado for Mike.

I mean, it comes in like four or five different dial colors, but that's just one that I.

It's beautiful.

It stood out to me from across the room anyway.

I don't disagree with that guy's assessment though.

I mean, if you're, if you're not making much money, maybe cut down your product line.

Yeah.

Also though, you know, there's just this thing where, you know, how do I put this?

People are interested in Rolex, one type of, of, of AP.

AP.

I was going to say where it's pronounced.

Admiral's Brigade.

It was Royal Oak only and a couple of Patek's and no one's really interested in any other

watches, like, like new money in, you know what I mean?

Like this is, it's sort of the nine 11 problem.

Like, you know, there's lots of great sports cars.

Most people are just like, just give me a nine 11.

I don't want to think about it.

There you go.

So I think that's part of Amiga's problem.

Well, that's our show.

Ladies and gentlemen.

Thanks buddy.

Matt Farah.

Thank you for visiting us.

You can check them out on the smoking tire podcast.

He also has a Patreon.

Hold on.

I was in the middle of promoing Matt Farah.

I'm working over here.

He's got a, he's got an auction for a Turbo S.

Not an auction.

It's a giveaway.

Yeah.

It's not an auction.

No, it's a good giveaway.

It's a sweepstakes.

Sweepstakes.

Sorry.

Yeah, not an auction.

He's got a sweepstake.

Different things happen at the end of an auction.

I was going to say.

Sort of the opposite.

I'm going to find out if we can buy tickets or not.

I think you can.

We can buy them.

I don't think you work for me.

We probably can't win.

You don't pay me.

I don't pay you.

You can buy tickets.

Yes.

Johnny's got a channel called What's Johnny Been Driving?

No, it's not called that.

It's doing very well.

It's driving with Johnny.

Driving with Johnny.

85,000 subs.

And a, and a, an AI site called Bidbetter.

Yes.

It helps you buy stuff.

Which is doing also well.

Gangbusters.

And we're merging the two.

It's unbelievable.

That's big news.

And I just have this lowly show.

The SpikeScar radio.

And we've got some great episodes coming up for you.

If you're a Patreon subscriber, you got a nice little pre-show live.

We'll do that.

What the fuck was that?

Garbage truck.

Oh, Jesus.

Hitting Matt's car.

But maybe Johnny will take the, I, you got a sec.

Can I drive that?

I'd like to drive it.

Absolutely.

Take it for around the plot.

There we go.

Thanks for coming by.

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