Weird 80s and Sakura Picnic 2021

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It is choosing out here on a .9 NW FM Live online with Mr. David

Prince, Mr. Edward bunching the alum Deep Singh all the way from

Canberra with the SCOMO and Albanese.

And now we got the India van. That's the the next new piece of

coverage, the country I was born in.

You're not allowed to come to Australia if you're from India anymore. I think that's most recent

development. If you're Australian in.

And in India, I think you're allowed to come to the strike.

No, you're not because, well, things are pretty bad over there, I guess. I mean I can understand the

reasoning. I also, my heart does go out to

those stuck there, though I definitely don't envy their position. Not at all.

It is pretty diabolical there at the moment, isn't it?

It's pretty bad and hopefully it'll get better.

And you know they are providing vaccines.

Hopefully, again, we should have to wait and see.

I guess that's the the best policy so far.

Maybe one day we can do an India special of the car scene in India. I think we've all all seen that

video of car modification in India in which Suzuki Belano ends up having scissor doors. It's among other things.

It's amazing. I was like the Peugeot ad that

went around a few years ago. Oh yeah, that was a lovely

Peugeot ad. That was the That's probably one

of the best car ads still, I mean.

It was a 206, wasn't it? I.

Think it was Yes. Yeah.

And. He made it out of a Was it an

ambassador? It would have been in the best

area. Yeah, just.

Yesterday, yeah. I love that.

Absolutely. It all looked good.

It was definitely up there in my top five.

Probably car ads. Not a great car, but damn good

ad. It's a whole other subject too.

Is a whole other topic. Absolutely, absolutely.

Well, let's get into we've got a lot to cover tonight.

We've got Sakura Picnic, What happened there?

We've also got car updates, but also towards the end of the show. Well, the main part of the show,

the main topic for tonight is. Weird 80s cars that probably the

weirdest of the 80s cars that we kind of like or don't like or just kind of appreciate really. So let's get into some car

updates. First and foremost, Alan Deep,

any new drive through developments?

No, no, I've stayed out of that of port I drive through, thank you very much. As port wheels, it's only the

one room. The rest of them can be sold for

whatever the retail price is. Yesterday actually ran quite

heavily. It was a bit of a a storm here

in Canberra. I think there was actually a

storm late in Melbourne as well and I decided to go out for a bit of a rain ride. You could say I needed some

fuel, decided to go up to the the Costco near the airport.

It was only about 1520 odd minutes and there was I think it was overall having the all-wheel drive, everything else.

It was a lovely ride. Like, there were a few patches

of water here and there that, you know, did get a bit squirrely. But the light show was, I think,

the most amazing part. They were like, generally when

you consider a bit of lightning like you, it's usually a flash.

But there was a couple of, I guess we'll call it prongs of lightning that were coming out through the sky for an entire second. It was as bright as daylight.

You could see everything. And then the prongs of lightning

obviously above you, Like there's at least four or five prongs just going upwards. It was quite a, I don't know

like I enjoy storms. I don't like to be out if I'm

you know not with coverage in them but you know, I I quite enjoyed that right. And on the exit to to the

airport area it's a big old loop with an advisory of 45 kilometers an hour but a speed limit of 70 kilometers an hour and you bet your well I was going to speed limit I think and it it started to lose bit traction like that was that was I think the limit of traction like raining down pouring 70 k's an hour out of bend. And that was, I think the point

where the cars are about to say, hey, we're we're.

Gonna go now? Yeah.

So I I settled down after that, but it was nice.

It was nice, right? And the folks are having a

ceramic coating. The car got clean rather than

dirty. Nice.

I like driving in the rain, Alan.

It's just like, you know, you like sleeping in a tent in the rain. As long as you're warm and dry,

it's lovely. Exactly.

It's just when you have to get out, that's a bit of trouble.

But until you have to get out, it's a great time to put the heater on a little bit. Yeah, I've got my audio book

going. You know, just yeah, it's.

Very satisfying, driving in the rain and being nice and dry it is. We are joined by the one and

only Scotty Johnson. He's just jumped on Scotty.

People. We're doing car updates now.

What's going on with your car? You couldn't make it to Sakura.

I'm still wondering what's going on.

Tell us. Very bad, Scott.

I was expecting you to be there. David wanted to get a photo with

you it. Was.

You know it was a real let down. I had my what is it?

The headshots. Ready to sign them and autograph

them for you all? Scott Johnson you mean from Car

Talk? Scott Johnson, I've in person,

so the shoe is on the other foot now.

Scotty's having to explain the breakdown, has he?

Yeah, so it's how's it feel, Still kind of drives, but yeah, I don't know, the temp gauge just had a massive hissy fit.

And so I thought, oh, I wonder if it's just having a hissy fit.

Or I started thinking. Have I just lost all my coolant?

Because, you know, many years ago it happened to me.

Had a look, there was still coolant in there.

There was no leaks. I'd quickly checked the

dipsticks if there was any milkshaking happening.

That was OK. That was OK.

Still seems to be getting too hot or overheating, but it only happened when I'm not moving. So when you're moving, fine.

When you're not moving, not fine.

Yeah, seems to. The gauge seems to get up to its

temperature very, very fast. I reckon water pump.

Could be, yeah, if it's, if it's not, if it's not really circulating properly, or if it's.

Been. Logged up or I mean, when was

the Tommy doll stuff done? Recently.

This. Water pump like I I've, I tried

to drive an old Rover 2000 from Oakley back towards Malvern years ago without the water pump working and I just made it and it was a coldish day. But yeah, that that that would

cause it to get very hot very quickly.

Otherwise you sort of go to, you know, most other symptoms you'd you'd wait a bit before it got to that nuts level.

Have you filled the radiator hoses and the radiator?

Like see if there's cold spots, warm spots or anything.

Yeah, no, that. Seems all fine.

I took it for a bit of a drive The other just after work, like yesterday or the day before. No yesterday.

Yesterday was Monday, yeah and and then I just let the car just sit there and sat at home for a bit.

It didn't move, it stayed the same.

So. I don't know what it's doing.

Is the overflow? Is the overflow bottle bubbling?

Because if it's bubbling OK, then that that's a good sign.

That's not a head gasket sign, so that's a good.

Sign Yeah, not bubbling. And this just started to do it.

All of a sudden it wasn't like you've set the car for six months and haven't. Drew in it?

No, it's my daily. It's driven every day.

Perfect. Perfect.

And then one day, boom. Yeah, I just looked down at the

temperature gauge, just like, no, that's not normal because usually it sits just below halfway.

Yeah. And then I'll just, yeah,

driving it. Then I looked and it just kind

of caught my eye, cuz all of a sudden I just see it going.

We're just climbing all the way up.

And then kind of came back down a bit, started driving and then it came back down and lowered back down, but it hasn't done it since. Either it be a fan or.

Since. I think it could be a fan, it

could be even a. You're like, it's called your

cooling temperature sensor. Or it could like, you know

that's not telling the car to switch the fans on.

Or it could be that could be the one of the relays off for the fans. I'm telling.

If it if it hasn't done it since, I don't think it's anything mechanical. I think it's more likely just

like massive and electronic something or other.

Yeah, electrical. And it's hard to pick up on it

because my drive to work is pretty short.

Yeah. Now I'm just driving from one

side of somebody to the other. It's like 10 minutes.

That's just a 10 minute drive and then 10 minute drive home.

So that doesn't really get much time to heat up and it's not stop start. And I mean you drove it recently

like in the holidays, 500K to there and 500K back and it was fine. So I mean it's you haven't

really had any issues with this car.

It's been it's been pretty bulletproof, which kind of makes me think maybe it's just something like to a lot like a like a, you know? Like a like a like a coolant

sensor or something that's just just just saying well you know how you going. I mean they're usually pretty

cheap they use about 30 bucks you can get like a Trident one and they they're pretty good. Just just I mean whack that in

like I'll probably I'll probably start with that but you can you can also test them as well. So you can also kind of just

pull them out, put them in hot water and put them in cold water and see if the if the frequency's on the back because they should give different readings.

If it's not doing that, then then that's probably it's probably on its way and that can cause all sorts of issues which people didn't realize like it can cause like cars to run lean because if the cars you know it might, it might make it, it might pull fuel or pull timing because you know it's too hot or it's too cold. If it's you know.

And it can also not trigger things like turning your fans on, so it can. It'd definitely be something

like that, so I would definitely personally get that checked.

Yeah, I was gonna spend a bit more time with the laptop plugged in because I can read all those sensors and stuff.

Yeah, that's a good idea. It's a Subaru, so yeah, and then

I had a problem with the stupid laptop.

Not this one that I'm using now, but it's my one I used to use for uni so usually for it's on and as soon as I might knock it or just move it. It freezes and I have to turn it

off and turn it back on again. Maybe don't check the sensors

with that laptop. Yeah, I'll have to get the

program and install it on this one here.

All these, Scott, are the reasons why you didn't get to screw a picnic. All of these?

That's just nightmare. David Prince was waiting there.

He was like, I'm excited to meet Scotty.

Tell Scotty if you see him and I don't see him, ring me.

Yeah, he didn't say that. He did say that, Scotty.

You see, see how much out of all the people David wanted to meet that day, no one else. He just wanted to.

Meet. I feel so special and this is

this is you know we have to write this on your permanent record of you missing meets. Last time you had to well, it

wasn't entirely UFO, but you did go home on us when it was the big old canceled DFO meet. That's trash.

I'm reminding. From now on, I'm only going to

proper meets. We turned that into a lovely

evening, did we not? I'm not going to crappy dodgy

meets like that anymore. Going to proper ones.

We are joined by the one early Adrian to Giorgio who's who has the project was suddenly returned.

He is, he is. He was there that night and it

was a good night, but he would have had a good time.

But but Scotty wasn't there. Scotty.

Scotty wasn't there. Alright, but Scotty, we'll have

to make sure your car's up and running.

But how are you? Adrian.

Hi, how you doing? I'm.

Back. Good to see.

You How is everybody? Good mate yourself.

Good. I'm good.

I'm good. I'm back.

Do you have any car updates, Adrian?

Has your M3 broken yet? No, it hasn't.

Actually. Very good.

Surprising. Jesus, what do I start with?

Like that's the hard part. Went on a big trip with my boys.

It was good fun. We went up to Wangaratta, then

to Bright up to Falls Creek, back down Falls Creek, over Hawthorne and to Lakes Entrance. Then back home.

Good 1000 kilometer drive. It was fun.

All in the M3. All in the mighty M3.

What? And can't believe it.

Now I will admit I did have one little hiccup, but that was not the car's fault. You take 3.

Weeks. No, no, it was not the car's

fault. It was actually my fault.

It was user error. What did you do?

So, Long story short, when two of us went up to Falls Creek, as we'd never been two of us, two of my mates decided to stay.

In bright and ride mountain bikes, that was already the first stuff up. But anyway, so we start going up

Mount Beauty and that was awesome.

Trip absolutely loved it, had the top down.

It was just phenomenal. Then we're like, we're only 40

minutes from Falls Creek and you know the guys won't be back for a while, so we'll just go up Falls Creek.

So I went. We went all the way up.

We took some photos. It was really awesome up there.

And then we got a phone call up there.

One of my mates was calling about the other one.

He's gone to hospital and we're like, oh shit, what's happened?

And he's like, don't know, he's just gone to hospital.

What? We jumped in the cars and I've

got to say some of the sketchiest drivers I've ever done was on that road. Absolutely flooring it down.

I was losing my mate in his limb like I was starting to lose him.

That's how fast we're going through the corners.

One of the corners, the brakes decided to not work as well as they should have and they almost went off the edge.

So that was not fun. But had to change down at year

and just like throw it into the corner and hope for the best and. M3 is a good at that.

Oh yeah, I can't bounce for that.

But yeah, then halfway down the mountain the brake fluid boiled and I had very minimal brakes, so it was a very sketchy drive on the way back down. Got to the hospital that was in

Bright and turns out all he did was break his arm.

So the guy who called us, I I was flipping shit of him because I'm like, I almost died coming back because you said he's in hospital, didn't tell us what was happening.

So anyway. Only issue I had was the brakes

boiling because I never changed the fluid in it.

So again, my fault and I may or may not have 5 liters of oil that went all over the boot. Oh.

No. The the the bottle of oil flung

around because we're going that quick and we got stuck in the side of the boot and it hit the cap and the cap.

May have broke as it was spoiled facing down, so I spent.

Lovely for years to come. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. That's not.

In that area. The boot's never rusting, I can

tell you that much. You went everywhere.

Oh, that makes. So that's the one of the worst

things I've ever heard. Yep.

So I've got. I went.

Like his, I went up, pulled up to the hospital.

It was like a little bit up on the hill.

So when we're going back to the car, cuz they brought his clothes in his bag just in case we need to take it.

And I'm looking at the boot and I'm seeing like little rip marks out of it and I'm like, I've got.

And my car's leaking oil from the wrong.

End I'm like, OK, the car's leaking something, but why is it coming out of the boot? And I'm like, no, there was oil

in there. I put it up and everything is

soaked and I'm like, no. So I spent four hours.

I think it was. With and they had.

Four or five rolls of paper, toweling the greaser, just cleaning everything up. And then when we went to Lakes

Entrance and we stayed there for a bit because it was concrete as well, just there was drip marks on the concrete there too.

These cars keep. Leaving a truck for the next 10

years. I coughed it, but when I got

back around I cleaned it all out properly so it's not leaking anymore. Just, yeah, I was so, just so

angry. Gross.

But. But in saying that, I had one of

the best times I've ever had in a car driving up and down Falls Creek, and I had even more fun and sketchier time going up Hotham. So for those of you that haven't

gone to Hotham, one side is very steep and very windy and the other side is quite flat and yeah, not as windy.

It's not steep, nothing. So luckily we went up the steep

side because again had no breaks, so going up was a lot easier and it was bucketing down with rain.

So we're like, oh this is exciting.

So climbing up the hill around about 30 KS an hour and then out of nowhere I think we got into the clouds because we could not see. I had fog lights on in front.

My fog light in the rear, the mate that was behind, so we had three of us that continued on the trip.

It was my car, my mate's 34, GTT and the Lib wagon and as we're all like cruising up and as I said it was just couldn't see anything. Cruising up, cruising up, caught

up to a van, so like we're staying behind him.

He was like my buffer. If I saw him fall off, don't go

that way. But we went to a part where he

slammed these brakes on. So I'm like, oh shit, I gotta

slam my brakes on. So I try and stop a bit, managed

to stop the car and there was on the side of the road, there was, I think it was 4/4 wheel drives and a wagon, all completely set up for snowfall, driving and all that stuff.

We're like, we don't know where they stopped.

So we just kept going, got to the top of the mountain and that's all clear. So we ate lunch and all that.

Come back out and as we come outside we look around and it's it was one of the best sights I've seen.

All snow everywhere and all you see is 4 drive, four drive, four drive forward, Dr. Suv's wagons, everything set up for snow and

three of us in sports cars. There was snow on the top of

both of them. A little bit of snow, yeah,

Yeah, there there was a little bit.

It was that called. Honestly, it was freezing.

But yeah, a little bit of snow and I'm just like.

There's great views from our park at the top, too.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, we figured that one

out. I.

Drove I drove down Hotham once in my mom's old magnet V6 and my friend was in a CRV behind me and it was so poor visibility, you know, there's you would have seen the major in the big poles on the side of the road poles. When it's really, you know,

dumping those are those are like, yeah, they're covered there's. Not halfway up them or 3/4 of

the way up them. Which is, yeah, it's ridiculous.

Had them. When you see how big and tall

they are. But it once I'm driving down La

La La La la. And it was pretty bad visibility

and he's on the horn behind me. Ba ba ba ba ba ba.

And I thought, oh, something's going on with his car.

So I stopped and thank God I did.

I was about to turn right. I thought that's where the road

went and that would have taken me off the side.

You know, I got out and sort of said, what are you beeping at me for? And he's like, that's the clip.

And I'm like, Oh yeah, OK, yeah, don't go down that.

So that was a little lifesaver, but yeah, yeah, it's a fun Rd.

Fun Rd. Yeah, I must say, going from

Hotham 2 Lakes Entrance, it's a road for just about everybody to do. It is one of the most

picturesque, just beautiful places like roads that we've ever done. And it's not all windy in the

way of going up and down hills and most of it's flat, but it's it's just picturesque like one side is all mountains and then the other side is like a river like, but it's like rainforest river. There's like ferns and all that

stuff that are in there. You know ferns and shit.

Yeah. You're turning this is turning

into a gardening show. Sounds like a beard.

But yeah, no, it was it was really good.

Sounds good, man. And hang on.

Adrian. Adrian.

Just sorry, Matt. Adrian, your beard is getting a

bit pushy. Oh, you're turning into Costa.

I'm trying. What's that from the ABC?

Gardening Australia. That's exactly it.

The Falcon gone? Yeah, that's one gone.

OK, so I've sold that. He took it and all that kind of

stuff, so. When you say gone, you've sold

the Falcon. Sold it, yeah.

Falcon, you sold? Yeah, sold that before I went on

my trip. Wow.

Wow. Yeah.

So I wanted to get rid of it. There was no need to have it

around like I had. I've got the M3, so we've left

it with that. Are you saying an M3 will do

anything a Falcon you will do? Well, yeah, because Falcon, you

two are about as useful as cold for shadow water, especially with the hard top. In threes can carry oil and

yeah, everywhere in the at a. Time everywhere will be

everywhere. Yeah.

No. Yeah.

I learned my lesson before. You don't buy a hard top.

Just doesn't end well. Anyway, updates with you.

Updates with me. I have been spending a lot of

money recently on my old Renault, so the welder guy has pretty much finished that. He's doing a few little tidy ups

this week and I should have that back next week.

I picked up the gearbox Saturday morning that's been fully checked rebuild like, not didn't need full rebuild, but it needed a refresh on some cogs and a few secret pictures and bits and bearings and things. So I picked that up, dropped off

the engine. I'm getting rebuilt on the same

day. So the guy's going to strip it

and then we'll talk about how far we go with that.

So you know, I've just been sort of ticking boxes with that.

I've received some hubcaps today, courtesy of Mr. Prince,

that have been beautifully refinished for one of the Hondas. So they.

I would sort of. We're talking about that briefly

today, David. It's like, you know, the hubcaps

on that car were all chipped and scratched and whatever, Whatever. Yeah, it's cost me a couple 100

bucks to get that sorted, but I think that's money well spent.

You could argue, Oh my God, that's so expensive for old hubcaps, but on one hand. But on the other hand, if it

makes the car look like brand new in the wheels, that's cheap to me. Some wheels always make a

difference if the wheels are the.

Wheels make the car. They absolutely do.

You've got to get that right. So, so I'm very, I'm conscious

though as I said to Dave today that whoever buys that may well.

Dump it and put giant mags on it and all my painting of hubcaps will be in vain. So I'm going to very, very

sternly question whoever buys it take Are you going to dump?

The answer is yes. I'll take a little bit of the

price, but I'm keeping those hubcaps because they're.

They're works of art. You know what I'd do?

I would be the person to turn around and say no, I'm not going to dump it, then send you a picture of me with the hubcaps, throwing them in the bin and then like it's getting dumped.

Wow. Anyway, so that's the Honda,

Wow. What a way?

that's the Renault I've been driving around in the Tarago.

I took that to secure. That was getting their love in

terms of the blingy wheels and. I had the door open and the the

velour was reclined like a bed in the back.

I was offering it as a like a restroom for people if they wanted, not a not a restaurant. A.

Restroom. Like if you need to rest, Yeah.

And then the other update was I took my mum's 5 Series to a guy I know who does detailing to get it all fully detailed and ceramic coded. Because it's been about probably

five years since that car was done.

And I wash it by hand and it's garaged and so it doesn't it doesn't get too bad but you know it needed a little freshen up so came back looking stunning. It lasted about a day and a half

of freeway driving and then a fault code came on that said you know engine fault reduced power and I'm like talking to my mum on the side of the freeway going turn it off and on again that sort of didn't really fix it. So that's currently being towed

to, yes, the beam mechanic to. See what the hell is going on?

And the thought did cross our minds, the mechanic and I that possibly the if the details have squirted a bit of water around the engine compartment, maybe it's gotten to somewhere it shouldn't have gotten, so it wouldn't.

It was cranking, cranking, cranking in the end and just not firing at all. So there's something not happy

there, but my God, I said to my dad.

My God, it looks good on that tow truck.

Be the cleanest 5 Series in the workshop a bit.

Well, it's the most stunning 14 year old five series on the back of that on. The back of the.

Next tow truck? Yeah.

Anyway, mum's like, have you heard anything from the macaque about my car? I'm like, Nah, you know, usual

scenario. You drop them off and wait two

weeks and then think about hearing from them.

That's COVID. Yeah, yeah.

It's COVID, mate. Whatever.

Whatever. So keep driving a reliable

Pajero currently courtesy of. Me.

Yeah. So that's my car update, Mr.

Prince. Not a lot, other than getting to

looking at lots of cars on the weekend.

Had a great time at Sakura. Took the N1 because it's not old

enough to go to classic Japan, but I knew it was going to be the only one there because it's the only one in Australia still that I'm aware of. So it got acquired.

A good reaction from a lot of people.

Bought a bought a flare for it. Well, not a flare but Daniel

from Rupert. Rick had a whole lot of flares

but he'd had some that he turned into torches.

So I grabbed one of those so that it it's actually sits in the holder and it actually has it has it use other than don't think we're going to get hopefully I won't get stuck you know under rubble in the after an earthquake or something.

I think that's why they usually have them as standard in every car in Japan, but this one's not going to blow up either, so.

I still got an original flare, David.

Really. Yep.

Your car. For which car?

Oh, would be in the skyline. Probably wouldn't.

It was for my black car 34 GTT that I had nice original flare that I could just crack open one day.

Just when you least expect it. Yeah.

It's waiting for you, Scotty. It's waiting for you.

It. Was JDM, so I could probably

sell it for about. 1000 Bucks. Now, yeah, absolutely,

absolutely. I was at the car auctions once

and there was an old Merck W123 sedan that looked very intact and I thought, why? Why is this at this sort of

damaged auction or whatever? Walked around, it looked

alright. Opened the door and it looked

literally like someone had let a flare off inside the car.

No. It coated everything orange,

like dust or. Well, I don't know what's in

flares, but it's not paint, but it's something not very nice.

So yeah, it was like they just let it flare off and shut the door and it was like this orange bomb and stuff.

And I was like, yeah, I can see why that.

Now I see. Yeah.

Broke that off. Yeah, now I see my phone.

Nasty. So anyway, Speaking of Sakura,

David Prince, we all you David, sorry you Edward and I went to Sakura, the Sakura Picnic and Bandura.

There was a bit of a cartel presence there.

It rhymes Sakura in Bandura, Sakura in Bandura.

In the. That doesn't work, does it Emma?

Emma. Tura the Emma.

Tura. Here we go so.

It's a great picnic up there. So it was actually a, you know,

it's a very viby event, isn't it like a real cool?

Shoot. Yeah, it's it's probably one of

the best events. Like the second time I've been

to it and great times have been great, like this is.

But this summer is the first time I entered and the day flew by. Like, it went so quick.

There was no point in the day where I felt it was like, oh, OK, I'm, you know, I'm kind of a bit tied down.

I was excited the whole day. Tons of people to talk to.

Tons of just different random cars.

It was. It's a great event.

And. You had a friend within, like

you know, getting in the gate you were, you were parked next to another AW11 within. Within seconds.

Yes, Sir. I I saw the car, actually.

Sorry. Correction steps.

Saw the car 1st and I was like, oh, am I too?

Anyway, I he was he was well in front of you, Mr. Edward

Bunting. Because I was.

I was behind you. And anyway, I parked next to you

and he's down the line. Further, he sees my car.

Reverses and drives next to me so so we get the two next to Java. But the best thing about that is

my car update. Wait for it.

Nobody cares, Maddie. Thank you.

Nobody. Thank you.

Is that what I didn't even pick up on that?

Geez, but so long, boy. Says that nobody cares.

I've had to pick up the slack for you Adrian.

This is bad. I feel bad now.

So. Well I've been lost as you know

original set of wheels for that car for since I've since I've had the car. And Edward's like you're running

a sign. You're running a sign.

You're writing a sign. I'm like all right we're writing

a sign. I legit.

I had the sign on the car for what?

3 minutes. I wrote the sign.

Yeah, with your girlfriend's pen.

And so you know, we were scraping around for paper and pen. I'm like, we're doing this.

We're writing a sign. Wanted original alloy wheels, so

we slap it on the windscreen. And Mr. The guy next to me in

the other arms, he's like, gets out of these guys like, oh, I've got your wheels. They're like, oh, OK, cool.

And then he's like, he's like, look, they're they're they're not terrible condition, but they're not great either.

Just throw a number at me. So I threw a number at him.

Well, Mr. Mr. Bunting threw a number at him.

And I was like, yeah, that's fine.

That's sort of make. Me Try the number.

I was just getting excited. And.

Long story short, I've got a reduced set of wheels which we're picking up on Friday evening.

So Mr. Bunting, Mr. Prince again.

The invite's still there, hopefully you can come.

Unfortunately I can't. But thank you for the invite.

I do appreciate. It no worries.

We're gonna be Rd. tripping. Road tripping.

Road, it's gonna be a convoy. So we're gonna, we're going to

go pick up those wheels from the rat.

That'll be, it'll be a nice, nice little trip all the way there. So I'm excited to pick that car

up. And I'm sorry, pick that, pick

those wheels up and bring them back, get them all sorted and get them on the car, which will look schmick.

So what really? Stood out to you Maddie, at the

event. Like top two cars.

Top 2 That's hard. That's a hard one.

Top Two's hard. Top.

Three probably got top five, I'd say.

OK. OK.

Top five. Top five.

I think David's, you know, S600 is just a beautiful car.

It is. Beautiful.

It's just it's just so cool and. When when you say David, not

this David, that's. Not this David, no, should point

out another David. Well, there are actually 7

Davids from the car club there on the weekend.

It was funny because like that's probably like the first time I actually met people from the car club, like I was there at the last kind of like little shindig you guys had.

But this was probably the first time I I kind of got a got a glimpse at the club and and stuff and I realized that everybody is called David. So, so it was.

Except me. Except.

That yeah and obviously myself now so but but everyone is pretty much a is pretty much a David so.

The cool thing about the A600 was whenever David takes that car there, he's had that car 40 years and was a subject to an extensive nut and bolt restoration, probably not probably 10 years ago now, but whenever he takes it anyway, people will say, oh, is that, is that the chain drive one?

Is that good chain drive? So this time he actually jacked

the car up, took the left hand rear wheel off and a bit of a sign explaining how it works and number primarily to save him, you know, telling everybody that asked if it was.

But it was really good people. People really were interested in

it. And lots of photos and I've seen

quite a few photos on Insta and all that taken of it.

So yeah, that was that's worthwhile.

A bit of public education along the way.

Absolutely. Obviously the best car there was

the Taraga with the new outboys. Let's be honest.

Yeah and please. And a special man's N1.

Anyone in the country. Yeah, that's that's probably the

rarest car. There isn't.

It it wasn't the rarest car there?

Well, no, it's probably that and the electronic, the electric van there. The electric van.

Yeah, that. Was cool the Mitsubishi and its.

OWN were cool, yes. Definitely.

I am. I also love my friend Simon was

there with his bright yellow Honda City and he some years ago at Classic Japan. There's a there's a brochure

shot that has the city with the motor compost scooter folded up in the boot with all the saxophone and a tennis rack and all the all the wonderful lifestyle things that you can do in a Honda City in the brochure. And he a few years ago recreated

that at Classic Japan and he decided to do it again at this Sakura day. So that was getting so much

attention. He's got the Billboard there.

Or you know, the A-frame brochure showing, hey, here's the brochure and here's my car. That's that's a live.

Version of that. People were going nuts for that.

And his friend, another Edward, has a beautifully restored silica right next door like a metallic silver 70s.

With a fully detailed engine Bay and it's a really nice clean car. It no one's even giving you a

second glance. The city just had this crowd

around it and the Salika, it's like, Oh yeah, another Salika, you know, there are quite a few of them there.

And he was laughing about that when he sent me a pic.

Funny thing was that like that what do you, what do you do with that combo? Like everybody was like, holy

crap, this is amazing. And the best part about it, the

kind of shot in the actual picture is red.

But with a yellow motor compore he's one's a yellow city with a red motor compo. So it was a really nice kind of,

kind of kind of contract. He's got, he's got 3 motor

compos all up. He's not not greedy or anything.

I said just tell me one of them, come on And but I dare say you want far too much for what I would want.

To play, they are with far, much for far more than the Cats are.

Yeah, exactly. It was nice to see there.

So they were. 3 Honda cities there I think all up.

They were including a beautiful turbo 2 that's just being resprayed and restored. So I mean, I didn't need to take

mine, you know, it would have just been too much, whereas there was only one other Tarago like mine there.

But it. Wasn't not nearly as nice.

But it was. It wasn't.

I mean, your Tarago was definitely been a lot better, Nick, but the other one was it was still being used and I respect that. That city was was that red

silika that was right next to what was like.

Yeah, that's clean. Very clean.

That was a stock back. Slick.

Yeah, that was a stunning car like it was.

That's probably that car blew me.

I had a good look at that car. I was like, wow, this this car's

sick, so that'll be up there. That 28,000 kilometer E, was it

an? EDAH.

A H. Yeah, I was like far out, that

is. To to those in who don't know

codes, it's it's the mid 80s Honda Civic with the flat glass back. Little white one in a manual.

But yeah, 28 case from you like very, very mint.

Have you ever seen that car before, David?

Was that the first one? You've seen it before?

No, me neither. That was a bloody clean

beautiful example. What else did I that I kind of

like at there I at the event. I mean, I'm trying to pick my

pick, pick my my, my top cars, but I mean it's it's easier, easier said than done, but. There'll be, there'll be a few

more there, probably one of the centuries, because I'm a bit of a bit of a hankering for a V12 luxury Jacuzzi there.

Was about three of those there, there was.

Three of those. That silver one was amazing.

With the white walls, it was. About the orange Sigma with the

matching hubcaps. That was surprisingly good.

Like, really great. Yeah, there was an amazing car.

It was a GE. I think they called those GE

Sigma. So that was the first one about

787778 they were released and that was an SE.

hubcap. So the fact that that car was

orange and it had orange with it very.

It's so vitamin C that car. So the SES had a color-coded

My goodness, so 70s. It was brilliant.

It was like a beaded seat cover and the Venetian blind added to it. There was a beautiful 33 GTR

there in Midnight Purple two, which I know Alan doesn't really approve of that color, but it was a really nice car.

It was probably the only decent 33 there to be honest with you.

There was a few 30 fours and stuff, but that one, that one was like done really nicely. What else did I see that was

that really caught my eye. I mean it was it was good to see

your more than one MR2 there like there was 5AW elevens.

Yeah, there was heaps, like there was like heaps of SW 20s, like tons, tons of those, yeah. But there was 5A dubs.

So that was actually quarter goes to a couple.

Of them supercharged ones, too. Yeah, there was 2 supercharged

ones. The rest were Nas.

So the all three NA ones were Aussie delivered cars.

So it turns out the guy that's that I with the panda one that he painted, he he works at SNM Panels which is right near.

My super cheap and I see his car all the time and like small world, so we got talking and he's like holy crap you work there so so that was pretty cool and we ended up talking about where we could be getting our parts from pretty much the same supplies in the UK. So he's just done a full paint

job on that car and he's it looks pretty good.

For. Me.

How's that made that friendship Maddie?

Yes. I need a paint job very soon.

So yeah, that was pretty cool. But what about you guys?

What were your favorite cars there like?

There was so many. There's so many cars.

Like, I can't even. I can't even.

You reckon 600? Yeah, it was pretty close to

600, I think. Yeah.

I believe they didn't get around to see them all.

Yeah, at least. So what about you in terms of

your favorite cars that we saw for the day?

Well, I'm just looking at the photos I took that silver century. Really.

Really. Got me.

The number plate on that is Toy V12, but I had a look inside and and it's absolutely waterwall leather and just this huge raft of controls down the center of the back seats and everything that opens and shuts and two car seats like they had two baby seats in the back. So that's that's, you know, a

nice way to shuffle your kids around in, I suppose spoil anything else I'm guessing. Well that's definitely a Scotty

type car though isn't it? Scotty, let's be honest, you

would happily rock a V12 century.

For sure. Yeah.

How much? Perfect.

How much are they worth, Matthew?

They're in the 20s upwards I think from lost my checks so.

Yeah, I think there's a bit of a bit of a tax on those now too.

I think they're. Same to go up, thank you.

Becoming more popular like being actually being imported now Well actually one sorry before I before I get back.

One car that even you didn't even notice Edward, how good this car was. It was a a Cresida between 8685

Cresida Burgundy stock like immaculately like I.

Noticed it because of how stock it was, but I walked past it and they had to bond it up and I didn't even notice that it had A1 user. No, it had a one.

User. It was a Barra it.

Had a, It had a. It was a.

Barrat shaped pause in the discussion then so it had A1 user which is one of my favorite all time engines.

Which so those at home the what? Lexus V8L8V8 which is a

beautiful V8 like one of the one of the probably the premier V eights of the 80s and nine 80s and 90s really.

They that that car it was very subtly done and.

I I don't like a mod but I like that how well that was done.

You even said geez it was that good.

I didn't even notice. It looks factory like that

that's how that's how that's how good it look.

It looked everything. It looked like it would have

been done from a Toyota factory and that and that.

I I applaud that because I'm assuming that most likely the seven M as they all do blow head get blue head gasket and he's like nuts screw it. I got a got the, the one you

said and pop that in there and it's and it's probably the cleanest engine swap I've ever seen.

It was. It was phenomenal.

Wow, absolutely phenomenal. So actually a couple of other

cars I saw Mazda 323 Familiar Gtxs.

They were two. Two and five, yeah, they were.

They were very nice, but David Prince missed the bunting.

I'll let you guys continue. Well just on the on that topic

there was a lovely little Mazda 323 injected I think it was sedan that we chatted to the owner of that and it was funny because he said he said and it was sort of 2 tone red I think and it had power windows and the graphic equalizer and like it was a real top of the line Mazda 3 three sedan from the 80s.

So someone really splashed out on that And he was like, oh, I had 120 years ago and I just and his his wife was sort of seeing it, just laughing. And he's like, and I searched, I

I never should have sold it. And I searched for years and

years and years to find where he finally found this car in Tassie. But I said we can never sell it

now he's like, no, no way. And she's just sort of rolling

her eyes. And it was just he was so proud

of it and it's such as sort of a plain Jane car.

But it was very rare to see, you know, I think that would.

Call the limited, I think. Yeah, you just don't.

Three Super Deluxe, limited or something.

It was a beautiful. You see from plain Jane as you

don't see that sort of how did the digital dash as we know money in that? Yeah, so I took.

A photo of the sole Toyota Lexus station wagon that was there.

Yeah, I remember walking past it and it's like, why is this here?

I'm like, well, it's got a Toyota badge and this leaves me.

No, it doesn't. Yeah.

It's the VP Commodore badge, Toyota.

Oh, yeah, that. Yeah.

No, no, see, I quite like that because it's it's just so clearly a Commodore and it's the opposite of every Toyota ever made, You know, it's awful. And I think I.

And I took a photo. Also, I think the cleanest set

of wheels I've ever seen the best suited a car in.

Was that on my Torago? Thank you, David.

You know, it wasn't a Notorie. That's the second best, second

best, the first. Scotty, I'm sorry you went there

because there was this silhouette there and it had a set of 17 inch impulse silhouette alloys on it.

Oh, okay. And they just look amazing.

I'll send you the photo. Actually, yeah.

It just was just sat beautifully on them and they were the nicest looking wheels that I've seen on a car in a long time, aside.

From Oh, nice. Because on the M1, aside from.

This, yeah, and mine. I know, yeah, yeah, That is 3.

Three cars with good wheels, and there are only three cars there with good. Wheels.

It's gonna be on Matt's Mr. too. Yes.

True. And I did love the use of a JDM

style plate too. There was some plenty of nice

examples of JDM plates there. What?

Was the. Old man one that was funny OG.

Son og son. Which means.

Grandfather in Japanese. That was on an old that was on a

crown. I think there's also one with

Sogoi which is wonderful. There's a six two nice, really

clean first Gen. 626A rear wheel drive 626 with JDM plates and it

was 626 so that was a. Nice little touch, so.

There was a whole row of those early 6 to 60s.

Yeah, I've never seen as many. Complaints Coupe's and the

Coupe's are quite a stylish car. Yeah, I don't mind those.

I like that A. Good day.

Had by all they There was one next to it.

There was one next to you, and there was a silver one with a massive turbo charger bolted to the side.

I was like, that's cool. Like that was and.

That was the beige colored. Yeah, 626.

And then on the other side of me was the Datto 240Z or 260Z that broke down and had to get the RACV called.

David came running over thinking that the Terrago had come to grief. But no, no, no.

No, no, I should not. Only done 410,000 K There's

nothing wrong with it. It's funny though, like I.

Finished today really well because I got to drive that I had never driven the Terrago. Before, that's right.

You did. It was very, very nice to drive.

Very cool, yeah. It was again such a lovely day.

There's such a vibey day that I had a DJ playing.

There was stalls food. We were.

I've. Got an ice cream?

Yes, you shattered me an ice cream.

Very nicely with a chocolate flake in it.

That's all good. And we had a picnic beside the

cars. We put a rug out again.

Edwards rugs he had in the back of his car and we just sat there and had, yeah, chicken sizzle sandwiches and you know, just chilled for the day. It was actually top event, so

you know props to the. Toyota Crone as car club in

Victoria. Yeah, they run it.

Brilliant job like, you know, well done.

Kudos to you guys because you're putting on a great event.

So well done. It was a phenomenal event.

Excellent. The Secure Picnic's been running

for a number of years at this point, hasn't it?

I has, yeah. Yeah, it says the third time

they've run it, I think missed out last year, obviously.

But the one thing that they had at the 1st that they didn't haven't had at the subsequent ones.

I don't know especially why, I don't know if it's a scheduling thing or whatever, but they had it.

There's a Melbourne based Tayko drumming team who which is the the big Japanese traditional drums that they pound like crazy and and they had that as part. They had a couple of displays of

that as part of the first one and that was a real highlight that that was brilliant in in that sort of setting out in the park we sort of. 25 of these drums set up and that was really

cool. Was was there anyone being

silly? Because I don't know why, like

compared to other events I even though I haven't been present, it has this air of like everyone's kind of on the same page about being sensible, but was there anyone doing anything funny? No, no, it was.

Really. The traffic coming out was

madness, you know, trying to get 500 cars out at the same time basically. So there was quite a waste to

get out. But even once you're out on

plenty, right, there was quite a bit of traffic.

So no one was. I didn't see anybody do anything

silly. I thought it was quite and I

think I've said it before, but the thing that really is, I think is cool about those events is that you actually have the whole gamut of of age groups. You know you have all you know

the the pay plate kids that have you know wanted an 80s to Toyo well. They probably can't afford 80s

Toyotas anymore, but you know what I mean?

I mean that they've it covers all literally all age groups.

One of our guys who was there is 85 and he bought 3 cars.

So that was got his son and his son-in-law to bring bring cars.

So I mean many other groups of car enthusiasts that cover such a wide range of age groups and I think moving forward into the future, I think it's brilliant that the Japanese car scene is so. He's going to be around for a

long time to come. There's a lot of the, you know,

here. I say it human car clubs and you

know those. Human.

Car clubs. Well, you know, I mean they

haven't built cars for a while and I think the demographics probably you know. Well, there's no 18 year olds

lusting after a human. Not that I'm aware of.

Probably not as many as there are lusting after Corollas and Selekas and. Let's see, Matt.

Let's let's say, you know, e-mail, you e-mail the show.

If there's a young kid who would love a human we wanna hear from.

I think all the, I think all the young kids are gone for Volkswagen, Golf, car, club. With.

GT on mate. Well there are a lot of them

there on the weekend at Sakura, so I think, I think we're pretty safe for the time being. But seriously, if if you are a

young person, part of the wanting to be part of the Hillman Car Club or after a. I'm sure it's a great car club.

I'm not. I'm not casting extirtians at

all on the Hillman Car Club, but we're testing.

The young members, we'll have you on the show just, just just just to, just to see who you are.

We'll have you on the show. Yeah, and what got you into

Hillman? That's what I'd like to know.

These are the. These are the.

What I'm thinking these are the questions we need to answer to people. Well, it was also good cuz I

bumped into a lot of people I already knew.

Bumped into some of your friends, Mr. Adrian.

But I saw Matt, Patrick and Alex there.

Yeah. They were about to go, yeah,

they said you got stuck at work and I didn't want to rub it in, so hence the reason I haven't rubbed it in and.

Yeah, helicopped it, yeah. Always do.

But yeah, it was, as I said it, really great event and you know, just just the way it's run and I think, yeah.

I remember in the past when I've gone before, it's honestly a phenomenal day. The only day that I think is

better than secure is classic Japan.

Ooh, yeah. September, I absolutely love

going to. Yeah.

That's the next one, isn't it? Yeah, December, September, I

think it's isn't the, it's the same group that run it again isn't it like. Yes, it is, Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

How old does the car have to be to enter that one?

25 five years, I think. You think the NX plus 20?

Come with me. Drive.

No, no, no, Eddie, he's not doing that.

He's going to have the 31 ready by then.

Hey, hey, look. Did you see it?

I saw a fingers crossed, but any last things about Sakura just before we move on? I'd like to have been there,

I'll say that much. That makes two of us.

There was a Subaru vortex parked in front of us.

Yeah. Really.

There's a segue for the next topic, Maddie.

Yeah. That is a perfect subway.

That's perfect. Weird, weird 80s cars.

So cars. Cars that I love, but but I mean

not necessarily always weird but like just just very interesting and and and odd cars that that that the 80s produced.

And I don't think any other era produced more wild and crazy kind of era designs in the 80s personally.

Like, like, I mean the the 50s and 60s had like really, you know, cool, big kind of flares and wing.

Sorry, that was. Pins.

Pins. That's the word.

And a lot of cars have seen that had that like weird wedge kind of shape as well going on. Definitely, yeah.

Yeah. The so I think that was I think

that's probably the the to sum up the 80s very well wedge anything everything and anything and everything was designed by a ruler and a pencil essentially. So that's essentially what what

what that era was, but Mr. Bunting has to go in about 15 or

so minutes so. I do apologize.

I was going to say, do you want to do the car quiz now before you leave, Mr. Bunting? Yeah, we'll do the quiz because

I also have to leave early. So I think I'll be able to that.

All right. Well.

Be bad day. It's not a walk in the park

tonight. David's like, damn it, he should

have gone. I would have wanted.

His lame that I am. Now that's good.

If he's here, he'll be the one that gets the ear one wrong.

So yeah. I'm holding.

My job last week. You're gonna hold back.

About one year as well. 10 questions and bonus questions.

Let's get it started. Question one How many cylinders?

Sorry, great. Great.

Great stuff, I know. Sorry.

I'm just. I'm kind of zooming my screen.

There we go. How many cylinders did the

Lamborghini Diablo have, Ed? Adrian Ed got in there first

incorrect. Adrian, Adrian. 12 Adrian got in

there second after Ed and it was 12.

Well done. Adrian.

Yeah, the Honda scan still produces more kilowatts per liter. No, the it's the 12 cylinder

with like 100 kilowatts. It's terrible, but such a such a

good car. Love it.

Bonus question. Scott 6 liter Incorrect What Car

shares it's in lights with the Lamborghini?

David, David got in there first. 300 ZX, 300 ZX is correct.

You said it wrong there. Nissans.

No, it's the Lebanese Lamborghini question.

Two What Car am I introduced in 1990 and finished in production in 1999? It was the first production car

to feature a V12 meter to a 6 speed manual gearbox and one of the very first cars to use drive by wire throttle.

This big 2 door Grand Tour featured both a range of V8 and 12 and 12V12 engines, featured pop up headlights and was also one of the and one of the company's first cars to use a Multi Link rear end. What?

What am I Scotty though? Is it the BMW850 CR?

Yes, Well done. L8 series.

I would have taken absolutely well done E 31 series, Well done. Question three, what the Kia

Carnival is now known as a guv? What does guv mean according to

their latest? Was that you, David?

Or it was me grand utility vehicle is grand.

Utility vehicle is correct grand.

It's a new. One what implies that it's so

grand it's utility though because.

I did an ad for on a racetrack. Yes, they did.

Ken is doing some weird. Things sports the.

Problem is, is when Ken does stuff like still IKEA what you need OK? Is what Dodge was going to do

from the start and put it into a van.

That's it. That's it.

That's what it's at. Get your kids on to school on

time and go through the school too it.

Remains reminds me of G you are at like on a golf course, ground under repair. Yeah, school.

Check. David two.

Scotty and and Adrian both on one each.

Yeah, Ed and Adrian zero. No, Adrian One.

I'm 0. No, I've also got.

Zero we. Can talk today.

You 0, Allen. I'm also on zero question for

how many seats does the current Kia Carnival have?

Scott got in there first. Seven incorrect.

Ed. Ed. 88 is correct?

What? I did say my name after Scott,

but I apologize, I. Give it to Ed.

You know that it's eight. Do you know that it's 8?

Yes, I did. You've already got a point.

I had one point. This is my one point.

I know this is just for you. That's what I said it's.

Because it was. You.

I'm happy it's looking bad. For me, gentlemen, question 54,

performance Vehicles was a joint venture between two companies.

What were they, David? You can't.

Say. David, David, unfortunately is

it? Tick fit, tick fit is incorrect.

Okay. Anyone else want to jump?

I'm not quite sure who it was. I'm not really.

At least had a go. You did have a go.

You did have a. Go.

I would have said Tickford too, David.

So if it's not tickford then I'll be fine.

Thanks, Ellen. Ellen.

Well, you said two companies, right?

Two companies, correct. So can't we say Tickford in Ford

Australia? Ford Australia is half right so

I can do .5 but. Excellent.

I'm on the board. Ford is half right is another

company. The other one I don't know, the

Ford Motorsport company. The.

Other half, the one that liked. For one hour, it'll be the one

that that you were talking about.

In another episode, Matt, who did the something for the LPG cars. They made the LPG cars or

something. Well that that was, that was

Tickford, but. OK.

The company that that I'm talking about was originally Tickford, but they got bought by this company, so they've got a different name. No, Okay.

Well, technically they're correct then, if it's ticked.

No, because it wasn't bought by Tickford.

They were named different at the time.

The only person that hasn't had a go is Sorry Adrian and.

Scotty No Scott. I didn't have a go.

It would. Go Are we passing or?

I don't know. I don't know.

I'm gonna just pass. Some stupid Ford obscure thing I

know. No, it was Pro Drive from the

UK. Pro drive.

Ah no, I never would have guessed that.

But I know Pro Drive, Pro Drive did all Kalma Krays rally cars I can say. Too bad Fords don't have pro

drivers, yeah. Fine, this question How much

percent of FPV did Pro Drive actually own?

Now here's the thing. Whoever gets closest will get

the point all right. So Ed, you go first because

you're always one. Off.

I'm going to say per drive owned, 35%.

OK35 Yep. Keep going.

Who's Who's next? 40.

David, 40 Yep. At 40 now, 40 now.

Take 5 here, like 40 now. I'll say 51.

Oh. OK, Ellen.

I'll get a lost, I don't know, 49.

I want to talk to you. I'm.

Going to say 52. Someone's gonna write.

Someone's someone's gonna write and bang on the money.

Oh. I'm going to save money, Johns.

What was it? Me is 51.

Oh. God, they're going to. 51% of

the company Wow. I.

Thought maybe? I thought maybe it would be

majority, but just so I thought I'd say 51.

Yeah. So that covers a little bit more

and then bloody Allen comes in and says 52.

I was like are you jerk? I'm.

Surprised at that because Pro drive, yeah, I would have thought it was more Ford owned than Pro driver.

I would have thought so too. But Pro Drive owned the 51%.

They're. The controlling share.

They were the controlling share for a long time until.

Ford and 20. I think it was. 14 bought them

out and said. We drive tickford.

There you go, question 6, which is actually interesting because Tickford has come back in Australia as Tickford, which is just we, I don't know, it's it's a weird thing.

Question What Car, What Car am I?

This compact car was produced from 1975 all the way to 1986.

It was a very versatile little car being available as either a coupe, panel, van, station wagon and sedan.

This car was produced in Australia.

Surprisingly, David. Holden Gemini.

Holden Gemini is correct. Nice.

Thank you very. Much surprisingly, it came with

a variety of engines. Even more surprising came with a

diesel option, which sold in relatively small numbers.

What Car am I? You just question What Car was

the Holden Gemini based on? David.

David, no. I know, God damn it.

What was an? I'm second after David that your

case that was wrong. It was the Tcar project, so it

was an international. It was a GM international

project, so it was an Isuzu and it was in an Opal and a Chevrolet and a Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that what you wanted? I would have taken Tikka or hold

it or I usually Gemini I. Would have.

If I ever own a Gemini, it's going to be a diesel sedan.

I buy the weird diesel in the in all cars that no one wants.

Could you get your hands on one like that, though?

Yeah. I've seen it.

A guy came in a supercheap with a with a white diesel that was meant off like 1 owner old lady man you.

Seen him, I've seen. Him white, a white diesel.

I'll. Go with TV.

Silly coupe. Thanks very much.

Yes, I do like those a lot. OK, if I say group X, life and

style as different. Variants Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, Toyota

style it. Toyota style it.

Well done. I owned one.

I used to say I drive life. What?

Was that car cool, Ed? That car was called Starlett

Johansson sometimes. I'd call it Sammy Starlet, but

this formal name was full name was Starlet Johansson.

Yeah, I like. Very green name.

Bonus question, which out of those was the top of the range?

Ed. Ed.

The life was the base, the what was the other one, the group X and the what. Was the third one.

I didn't say nothing. You you buzzed in before.

I didn't say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it was the group X. Incorrect.

No someone else like. The other one.

Like The Three Tenors. You know, Pavarotti, Domingo and

the other guy. I can't.

Remember what you said? I can remember group X in life,

but I can't remember the other. One, what is it?

It's the Max one I think. Isn't it incorrect?

See, you can all blame Ed for this, because he buzzed into the question. He didn't.

Sorry, I'm sorry. It was called the Style.

The style was on top of the range.

Style really. Yep, Style was the top of the

range. That's.

A load of shit. Question 9, which we'll be

talking about a little bit later on the show.

The Subaru vortex we got, he was called what the countries Ellen it? Was the XT.

It was the XT and also had another name.

If so, I'll give. David, I'll give you a point as

well. I can get the other.

One, right. Well, I don't know how to

pronounce it, but I think it's alcoining.

Alcoin. Yeah, I'll take that.

Yep, that's. What?

I'm well done. It's supposed to be like Alsi,

Yeah, like or something like that.

You know, alcoin. Something weird, yeah.

It's a weird name. Did they?

Am I right in saying they had XT badges on them here somewhere?

The. Turbo.

Ones where the xts. Are OK.

OK, that's. Fine 2 wheel drive and four

wheel drive. I've never heard of that Alcoin

thing. That's.

To me, a model kit was a Subaru AL coin.

Question 10. The Lamborghini Uris.

That's how many cylinders, Adrian.

Adrian, 12. Incorrect.

Hey, what? 10 incorrect Keep going down.

And yeah, so I said 8. It was a 12, yes.

Yes. Turbo 8 Yes, yes.

It's a 2 cylinder turbo. That's all it'll be.

That'll be the the 20-30 generation.

Yes, it'll be all electric electric.

So score check, we'll go from last place, Adrian on one second equal second, last place, David and sorry, sorry, David, Edward and Scotty on 2 each. Go Scotty.

Element 3rd at. 2.5 That .5 came in handy in the end.

Ellen and our winner of five tonight, Mr. David Prince.

Well done. Thank you very much.

Wait wait, how did I come in 3rd then?

You came second, I said. You came second.

You said third. That's a bad mess, Maddie.

I'm sorry. I'll take my second place

trophy. Did you did you win last time,

David, on 4I seem to remember you winning on 4?

Yeah, that might. That's right.

But now you're one on five, so things are improving.

Things are looking. Up don't get a big head.

He was giving the full double cobras as he was like, yes, the flexor. Look, I came from nothing,

literally, in this game. Yeah, to claw it back.

I think I did pretty well. And every time, my blood sugar.

That's why he didn't do too well.

I haven't. Yeah, I've got it.

I'm going out for dinner, that's why.

I know, I know. I'm not.

I'm not on it. I I also have to take my leave.

I apologize, gentlemen. We'll keep the talk just before

you guys go weird and wonderful 80s cards, which you like, tell us. And the NX Sport?

What was it called? Is the pulsar exa the American?

One Excellent. Yeah.

They had the weird. What was it called the sports

back? Sports back, which it just they

just put a giant box on the end. Yeah, yeah.

Nice. They.

Did, that's what how expensive they are?

It's like it's like 10 grand. It comes with the sports things.

You know how expensive they are really.

Sports backs Yeah. Oh yeah.

Everybody wants them. People want weird things, but.

Mr. Bunting. I'll give you a weird one.

The Nissan Prairie. When did you last see a Nissan

Prairie? I can't remember the last time

I've ever seen this in the. Brief know what I'd like to do?

I'd like to assemble a collection of 80s people movers and you've got the Holden shuttle, the Tarago, the Nissan Irvan, the Mitsubishi Nimbus, the Nissan Prairie, and there's probably a couple of others I've forgotten.

Number of people you could take out.

Imagine. If you had a collection that was

all of those, like cars, so many people would relate to that collection because they all got driven around in them.

Well, especially today too like because that's the go to thing is people moving SUVs. Could you imagine rocking up to

Sakura in all those cars? Like just in a line.

You'd have these lineups. Imagine the lineup of vans like

it'd be a different vans it'd be.

Amazing. The only thing is, yeah, Ed,

what you're gonna have to understand is they need to be modified. No, they're not.

Turboed would be off chop the. Only thing I will allow is

factory alloy wheels to be refitted turbo I'm going to fake like a voice. See you guys.

And then there were four. Interestingly, I have a mate

that has a. Original Nimbus, an 85 Nimbus 86

Nimbus and it has a Cordia turbo engine in it, so that would that would fill Adrian's dream. Well, there was a guy when I

used to work at the press install that he had a Nimbus and that had a Ford G63 in it, Evo motor and it was turbo.

And I'm like, wait, what he's like?

Yeah, he's like, it drops in. He's like, you can't get the old

drive, but it drops in and I'm like.

Oh okay, I respect that. It didn't take off and it's just

such a nice. It's definitely cool.

I mean, talking about weird and wonderful cars and the areas like, as we segued Mr. Prince earlier, Subaru Vortex, you know

that car, I mean, after seeing, after seeing one that's Sakura, I mean, it was the only one that was there.

There's currently one for sale in Geelong.

And I was like, oh, don't do it, buddy.

Don't make, don't make bad financial decisions.

But she's had such a box of wheels in it.

It's just so widgy. And the steering wheel's so

weird. And have you seen, Have you ever

seen a dashboard on a Subaru Vortex I?

Have. The the cluster goes like it's

like it's like a sort of rocket ship.

It just like launches in as like it's just it's just nuts.

I would highly recommend. I'm looking at one now.

They're insane. They're actually insane.

Like the Subaru must have said. What can we do to make things

really weird? I'll tell you what we'll do.

We'll make the vortex. Even just the there's had a few

weird. This shifter looks weird.

It's the whole thing. It's just nuts.

Yeah. It could only be from the 80s.

Absolutely. And yeah, they just went OTT won

that car. That was amazing.

We're walking past it and David was sorry, Edward was explained to Steph what what a, what a vortex was and Steph had never seen him before and. She's not the only one you know.

There's plenty of. People, he's like, they were

known for having a very phallic G knob and and I was like, yes, you were not wrong. So in both automatic and manual

trim, by the way, which is very true, but they were just a weird, weird and wonderful kind of car at the same time.

If I got one given to me, I would happily, happily enjoy it.

I was speaking to Heath from the Gutter Together podcast on Instagram earlier today, which we'll actually talk about these cars today. And he used to have one and he's

like. And he loved it.

He reckons it was, it was out here.

It was actually an amazing it was a turbo, you know, full drive. And he took it to the drags and

up the boost and then he blew it up on the at the drag strip and then it never got back on the road.

And he's like, he's like he kind of wishes he kept it because he kind of gave it away in the end and it ended up at scrappy.

But he's like, I'd I'd love another one.

And then I found one on on Gumtree and I'm like, dude, you need this. And he's like, oh, I think I

need this. He's like, can you go Sausa for

me because he's in another state, so.

Like, OK, that's that's dangerous.

But yeah, that's. When you get back to him and

say, oh, it's no good, leave it. And then later on you announce,

hey, guess what I just bought? Yeah.

Yeah, but yeah, like I I've not seen an NX.

That's probably the first time I've seen an NX on the road.

I don't even know if it was came on the road, but the first time I've seen an NX. Sorry.

A a vortex, you know, in a vortex.

What about you, Mr. Prince? I've got to say the things that

stand out, and mainly because I actually saw one the other day up close a mate of mine has one are the pipe cars, the eight from the the Nissan pipe cars, the collection of the the Nissan S cargo, the B1, the Payo and the Figaro which is just all again on the on the rise. I mean, if you can find one,

Figaros have gone through the roof.

They they have very limited production in Japan and came out of they Corp the Pike cars because they came out of the Pike factory Parkinson factory and they're all just more an art piece than a car really at the time.

So I mean as car goes you can you can put one in an ad and you know everyone laughs anyway you know like because they're just a weird looking thing. So I think I I can't remember

any other manufacturer like taking as much.

Putting as much engineering into a range of four different cars for such a limited run. And yeah, I mean, I suppose

that's why they're so popular today.

I mean, they're quirky and they're weed to look at and a bit retro and all those things. And they start every time you

turn the key. Yeah, because they're basically

missing micros. I was having a chat with.

I can't remember who it was now, but.

He was explaining how cool, you know, and retro and and interesting VW were for making the the Harlequin versions of the it's. The golf, yeah.

And I was like, all they did was just screw up their order in which they put doors and stuff on.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like Nissan actually designed those, the four cars like they should how do they wait to do it?

I'm like that's more of a, that's more of an effort than, but they sold cars with different color panels.

I'm like. Yeah, because these people were

stupid enough to buy them, but but yeah, I find I find it really interesting. I mean, Japan has a lot of weird

out stuff coming out of there anyway, and especially during the 80s. The mighty boy is another one

that really speaks to mine. That's on my list.

I mean, I love the fact that it's called Mighty.

It's got a big heart, I suppose. And of course, they.

A lot of people put the 800CC engines in them so that they went from the 5:50 to the 800 big block.

So yeah, I mean, there's still quite a following.

And there was a Rotary one at Sakura Picnic too.

Did you see that one? Yes, I was just going to say

that Scotty would approve of that.

There was a big Rotary swapped, Turbo turbo Rotary swapped for memory too. Yeah, mighty boy.

I'm like, that is in all words, all sense of the world.

I would use that. That's the word.

Death Trap comes to mind when I do that, but I'm like, in the same token, I was like, oh, Adrian would love this.

It's such an Adrian thing he'd do.

He'd just put a Rotary in it and just be like, yeah, sure, sure.

But as you were saying before Mr. Ellen De Singh left the EXA

and the sports back. Right, that was.

I mean for listen, again in the 80s they were kicking goals, man, like they would do some 80s and 90s, so they would just.

Agree. Doing things other people

wouldn't. They I mean the the I was

looking at the brochure for it the other day it came up on let me just find it actually I thought for the XR and it's and this is and I quoted what the brochure said.

I'm just looking there. There are two Figaros actually

on car sales at the moment. One's 25 grand.

You think? Cool.

OK, well, that's getting up there.

And then the other one is $41,750.

For a Figaro. That's his guarantee.

Yeah, yeah. Here's the other it says.

It's a coupe. It's a Taga.

It's a cabrio. The new Nissan XO 1.8 isn't your

ordinary sports coupe. It's it's also a Taga and a

Cabriolet for the wind and hair driving.

It's three models in one patent package.

It's a street Smart 1.8 fuel injected twin Cam 16 Velo

performance at your local disk. Dealing out it's out of the

ordinary and out of sight was what was what they ended with.

Nissan Rohiel they they knew and plus you could add onto that which which because I don't think we got the sports back here as an option. I think they were all, correct

me if I'm wrong, they just imported parts from from.

I mean David you you'd know this better than it.

Certainly wasn't sought by the dealer, but you could order, you could order this the the back. But yeah, I've seen literally a

handful in even when they knew that it was from every.

It was really expensive, you know, like.

The car was 15 grand and the and the the back was like 4 grand on top of that sort of thing. So it was.

It was massively expensive from memory, but.

Again, you go, go. Oh, I should say.

Which automatically makes it a pretty rare booth because people aren't going to cop that, sort of.

It's like Honda putting the accessory Type R wheels.

The set was $15,000 plus tires I think.

For the. The price of the Jazz,

basically. So surprisingly, they didn't

sell very many sets of them. Yeah, I wouldn't have bought a

set. No, I know the states forward

with the Mustang. They actually buy wheels from

here from a place called Carbon Carbon Revolution in I believe they're in Geelong for memory. They they make a 20 or $15,000

US set of carbon fiber wheels and they come down on the duty 350R. And the option on it and

everything else. So if you if you want them

that's it's pretty much you're buying another Mustang V6 Mustang there for for the price of those wheels.

But but yeah, back to the wonderful and cheerful 80s gentlemen. Scotty Doe, what's up?

What's happening with you in your in your world of 80s weirdness? So I was thinking of a couple.

So I've got, I think, the Renault 5 Turbo.

Yeah. Yes, good.

I think that's is absolutely crazy to get that to be engineered, the amount of work that's put into it to move it the engine to the back. Yeah, it's a lot went into that

pretty crazy looking car for the time.

And so I write that one, and my other one I've got here is the Lamborghini LM 002. That beast, that is that is one

of the best cars ever. That is just.

That's 80s. Isn't that just we just

realized? It's Dodge in the 80s.

It is, yeah. It's.

Yeah, let's put a V12 in it. Why not?

I've said it for years, that is, that is Arnie like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a in a car, in car form.

That is just that. Is that car?

No, no, no, no. Arnie in car form is a Hummer H1

because the Hummer H1 shits all over the LM 002.

Nah. Say what I think she.

Is size, size, size. I agree.

So H1 is where it's at, but I love the LM 002.

Now interesting thing with the LM 002, they only make the ties for that car, like they only make them every few years.

So like they only make it like a like a little batch of them.

Batch. Yep, yeah, and they're pretty

much impossible to get. And if you want to get a set,

guess how much they are. I know they're stupid expensive

$20,000 so. So that's why that's why a lot

of people with them will have the original.

We also take them off and put it off the market set on so they can actually get tires for it which is, which is, which is kind of just out outlandish crazy but but definitely I think one of the weirder and wonderful, more wonderful cars of the 80s that's that's a great big Mr. Mr. Di Giorgio.

I thought about it for a little while.

And the what? What?

I'm not going to say they were fantastic cars, but just the weirdness of 80s American classics when they tried to bring back the Camaros and the Mustangs and all that.

Honestly, I just found him just interesting, but in a weird way I agree with. You because they were trying to

bring like everything into the new age, but not having the technology to do it. So you think Camaro's, it's like

all V eights and stuff, same as the Mustangs and they were coming out with six cylinders and four cylinders.

They did it. They.

Used 4 cylinders too. If I remember correctly, I think

it was Dodge they had. I can't remember what it was,

the actual model, but they had four cylinders coming out and they're calling them the RT. Can't think of the model I know.

All I know is just like a little hatchback thing.

Oh, it was a charger. That's what it was.

Sorry. They had the Omni as well.

Omni GOHS goes like goes like yeah, they were they were pretty, pretty crazy there. They it was.

I remember that it was the Charger.

Oh yeah, they they were trying to bring out the Charger RT to try and continue it on, but it was like a hatchback thing.

It was just terrible. Yeah.

See, I I find American 80s cars like they were trying to come back. It's actually a really cool

story like that. You've just that you've just

think that's what Scotty was it used.

Scotty Yeah, I didn't know. That's very crazy.

Yeah, I was. Reading up on it a little while

ago, and I was reading about Shelby, it was just nuts.

Yeah, they they, they did some weird stuff because like Shelby and Ford were kind of see you later by that point.

And Dodge took on Shelby and she was like, well, why don't we just turbo that And she said she wanted everything they they did was was pretty much just stupidly.

But I I think that they, especially in the States after the 70s, creating such land yacht, just forgettable cars because they were so restricted from the gas crisis that they were trying to come back with, you know, cool cars.

And they were having to compete because they're having to compete with really cool Japanese cars at the time.

And Japanese turbo technology and stuff were really, really coming at coming up and leaps and rounds.

Now you gotta remember the AW11MR2, Its competition was a Pontiac Viero, which a lot of people tend to tend to really get the. Fiero is like the best car in

the world. Come on, let's be honest, I I

would happily like a later Fiero GT with with the V6, I think.

I think that'd be. That'd be.

The only good. Fiero that ever came out is

currently in the Fast and Furious trailer #9 because they strap a rocket to it. So it's the post to be on fire.

I I saw one today which was a Lamborghini Diablo kid car and that was pretty hilarious but anyway I'll have to find you that. But yeah they were doing some

weird weird cars in the 80s but I I I will agree with you agree with you on that. But the Japanese were just, this

is, I think this is the time where they just were like, well, we're going to stand up and be be accounted for and again like AW11MR2, the reason why I love that car so much just because it's like it's like it's a box of wedge, isn't it?

Yeah, absolutely. The interior is wedgy.

The the thing about it is just the box of wedge pop up headlights and if you know you had pop up headlights you were cool and that's that's. This the leak is too.

Absolutely. That's really nice, David.

David likes the leak is from the 80s, don't you think?

I do. I've taken Essex Silly 86.

Yep, Twin Cam. And beautiful 3S GE, you would

absolutely have one of those. I'd happily have one of those.

I do happily have an 8600 Integra with pop up headlights.

Ooh, that's cool. That's very cool.

Anything with pop up headlights, it's just.

Let's think even a chord chords in the 80s had to pop up headlights too, from 86 on. Actually, what color with pop

up? Headlights was terrible.

Doesn't exist. Doesn't exist.

Yeah, look, I'm trying to think I can't.

Look. At it.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it before, unless I just say it in my own head, but. As soon as you got pop up

headlights, the cars call and there's no bad car that's got pop up headlights. Or.

I like you thinking you know that as you said, 85 integrity.

Yours is yet, David. 87.9 is actually 87, but first June.

But yeah, it was such a good looking car, like I think that car it would still look new in the late 90s like it was.

I used really well that car. It certainly did.

And it's yeah, it's always been still.

My Hundra Buyers Society is still I think one of the most integrated pretty designs to come out of Japan in the 80s.

That's absolutely, proportionally, it's just right actually at security the other day we also had and it was designed in the 80s. It wasn't released until 1990,

but we had an original first Gen.

NSX along as well. Now that doesn't look like a 30

year old car, but that doesn't set a set of satisfy the weird car criteria of the 80s. I wouldn't call it weird, but

we've graduated a bit onto cool as well so that fits in there I think. But yeah I think that's that's

definitely one of the one of the premier cars from to come out of the 80s really like it's just it's it's still it's like looking at that car. I mean that car was stunning.

Was that all original? Was that like original paint or

was that? Was that?

I well to originally how he got it and it's.

It only went on club plates on Friday, so it's a fairly new toy, but it's got a complete history.

It's a UK car, so it's got a complete history from you.

And there were lots of emails and videos and correspondence between the owner and the guy that bought it.

So yeah, I'd be inclined to think that's a pretty original 1. I just remembered a weird one.

It is. C4 Corvette see for call that

you know I I will agree with. You that was a supercar of the

time, was running with the was the Diablo that was out at that point or the Kun cars one of them, but had it running against them and the whole pop up headlight assembly of them was just weird. It's like it wouldn't just pop

up, it was just like flip around.

It was a flip headlight. Yeah, yeah, I love them, and

especially their. It's a flip.

If I remember correctly, I think it's 186 horsepower motor.

Yeah, big engine, not a lot of power. 350 shev?

Well, that's because they were starting off trying to figure out how to run fuel injection. It was one of the first ones

that ever come out, which was a crossfire injection, I believe they called it. Emissions laws and everything

too. Throttle point or something like

that. It was something weird, but

missed the Prince. That is beautiful.

This is the first time I've ever seen your car.

I've never seen this. One before, really.

Yep, you need to drive it that. I'd love to drive it that.

That'd be awesome. I remember going in one the

Rover. One was a couple years later,

wasn't it? Was that basically the same

shape? It was the same shape, but only

A5 door the Rover came in. Same mechanicals and everything,

yeah. Twin Cam 1.6 injected Yeah,

that's when Honda worked full on into their race car technology and well, not a race car. Still a very competent, very

nice car to drive. That one is 66,000 KS from new.

Wow. All you need to do now is take

out the 1.6 and put a better 1.6.

In some people might do that. I'm not one of those people.

I've got a question for you, Mr. Prince.

What old lady did you steal this off like this thing?

I. Didn't.

Steal it off any old lady. I I bought it from an old lady

but I didn't steal it from it. It is it is like legit

beautiful. Like this is a really nice

example that is. That's so nice.

Yeah, and thankfully she bought a manual.

So bless her socks back then. So yeah.

That was a win, and that's the key for that one.

It's not going anywhere. For the party, absolutely,

absolutely. Getting back on weird cars from

the 80s. So we've talked about the

Vortex, we've talked about the Renault 5 Turbo, that's definitely, that's definitely up there for being a weird one.

Now I was having a look earlier and some cars I've got about, like you're right, like mentioning earlier about the Nimbus and stuff. That was just a weird car that

came into. I mean, that car kind of created

its own little segment, didn't. It absolutely.

So basically some of the some other weird cars from that.

Do you guys remember the Renault fuego?

Indeed, that was a weird looking car.

Very French, very French, but from memory that was the first guy to have like a remote button lock or something.

They. Called it Le Clip.

They called it Le Clip. Yeah, there are a few other

things about that capitals. They had Michel and TRX alloy

wheels. So the only tires you could get

to fit those alloy wheels were Michel and TRX tires really.

Yeah. Yep.

So there'd been two cars in the 80s that had those tires.

The other one was the 82, and I can't remember which it is a 20, no, can't remember. But the 5:00 to 8:00 I BMW that

came at 82 that the executive model had a. 16 inch alloy I

think and they that was the other car that had Michelin TRX wheels. That's why to find the wheels

nowadays would be very, very hard, because they haven't had Michelin Trx tires but many, many years.

And that's why you really see Fuego with the original wheels on it. Yeah, because, well, you're not

going to be. Able to get tires for them so no

other tire can fit on that wheel.

Basically, that's right. Yes, that's nuts.

Yeah, well, I don't know how they got away with that, that's.

Actually, they might. There may well be a, you know,

reproduction 1 going around now, but certainly that's what spelt the end of all the the original wheels for those cars.

I was thinking Logondo, but that came out in the 70s.

That's right. Yeah I looked at the same one

the yeah that was yeah I think that came out about 7778 but yeah just just weird designs from from the 80s that were like just super duper 80s like as as you say guys these are these are the type of cars that you wouldn't be able to get like any anymore. So I I I definitely think that

it it was one of those years where you you just never you just never gonna get a car like that again.

Here's one for you. What about the W124 hammer with

that massive your body kit and just I was a 124 but like being done by MG, it was it just looked stupid.

But that was the whole idea of the 80s, right?

Like, right. Are you talking about the black

Mercedes that has that big wing on it?

No, it didn't ever wing the. OK, no, I'm thinking of a

different one. That's the 190 E evolution 2

evolution two, yeah. That's a weird rear wing on it.

I like that one. Yeah, that's that's something

that could have only gotten been gotten the way then.

But here's one from for United States viewers.

Buick in the 80s were known to be owned by well, your, your grandmother and your grandfather that that that conservative just just just drove a Buick. You know, just because it

worked. Support support Marica.

But they decided to come out with with most people called Darth Vader. Now this car was the reason why

I'm putting it in there. It's it's because it looks

ridiculous, like it's just black on black on black on black.

And you're putting it in there because of the motor too.

But the motor was a never late in the 3.8 V 6 turbo charged was

faster than the core bit of its time.

It was the faster move. JNX Regal Yes, that is, and

they're worth. That to me, they are worth very

good money now and I think they are one of the they wanted to.

It's a car that shouldn't have existed, let's be honest.

So, you know, fun factor about it, yeah.

Yeah, GM bought it. So that motor that's in it is

the Buick 3.8 that came out in the Vns to VPS and all that kind

of stuff. GM got that motor from Holden

when they were starting to develop it and tried it out in the Buick GMX to see if they could actually turbo it.

They realized how well the turbo would work, that they would lose sales in the V eights, so they didn't put it in production.

Easier, Yeah, I'm serious. The VN was actually supposed to

come out as a turbo. I didn't know.

That not the s s. I can't remember what model it

was, but I know that they were looking into it to put the 3.8

Turbo out there and then cuz it was gonna be quicker than the Ss's. They're like, yeah, no.

I see how popular to be now. Oh yeah.

You have VL Turbos and then VN Turbos kicking around.

They were honestly one of the quickest cars around just because of the torque factor that they could put out.

They were a very fast car, like and reliable.

Yeah, they they were. They were quite reliable.

Yeah, with you there. Here's another one, guys, which

we're forgetting. Mr. He just started the company

It's not a little company. And he brought a stainless.

to make stainless steel. John de Lorean.

He brought in a car known as the DMC. 1212 and the DMC12, well,

it was known to be not great, let's be honest, it.

Looked no There is a way to make it great, and a lot of people have been doing it lately. LS swap that.

Is good. However, which actually if I was

to LS swap and I'd love it because that Renault derived V6 is not a good engine. But it got famous from

obviously, to a pretty crappy movie that no one really talks about. You know, that no one's ever

heard. I do agree with you.

I think it's called To the Future and Back possibly, but maybe, but I mean, nobody's seen that movie at all like it's it's it's got no one in it. Art house.

Yeah, yeah. They made three of them for some

reason. Straight.

I haven't seen them. Straight to VHS, straight to.

You haven't seen them? I refuse to watch them.

Why? Just not interested.

Wow, how do you kick him from? How do you kick him from this

chat? I tried to watch the 1st.

One and I couldn't do it, but they're phenomenal in saying that. One of my mates is mad into Back

to the Future and there's a DeLorean in Melbourne which is made to look like the Back to the Future car, yeah, and.

I got him an hour ride in that. That's sick.

So for his birthday. So when he goes and does that,

he's got the puffy jacket already.

We're trying to make a hoverboard for him as well, so.

That's cool. He's getting ready for it.

I actually sat in that car a few years ago cuz Mccubby Day at the Mac is near near my house. They they had a big day and they

invited that car there and I'm like, holy crabs, the DeLorean.

And then I was like, holy crap, it's the Back to the Future DeLorean. So then I had a double take and

I had the had the Mattel hoverboard and everything in it.

I was awesome. I got to sit and I'm like, this

is sick. I'm like, this is actually cool,

but that's definitely one of the more weirder cars from that period. Absolutely.

There's one that you're forgetting one of the best Utes ever to come out. Tell me.

Dodge Rampage, don't you hear? Page Yes I.

Was gonna say that is. All cylinder front.

Wheel drive? Definitely weird.

I thought we were still on the news, the 80s.

I thought you were gonna say this.

And they're Ute, yes. That was a good dog.

I wanna buy one of those one day, do a fine line you do like it is essentially an XF. It's.

No, no, no. OK, Now this is like saying that

a Toyota Lexin is a Commodore, OK?

It has a Toyota badge. Leave it at that.

I Ford has a Nissan badge. That's as much as much as I want

to take your statement and throw them back at you, I I I can't be bothered because it's just too much work.

Look, if you go onto Vic roads or whatever it is, OK.

So if you got the Nissan mute here, OK, and you put it into Vic roads, it's under Nissan, it's not under Ford.

Say Mrs. Toyota Lexant. It's at the Toyota, not holder.

What about the relay Alpine from the?

Is it the A110 from the from the 80s?

Was that 80s or 70s, that one of the 70s or is it the a 130 or I just put I'll run Alpine from the. 80s Oh no, I know the one

you mean. Sorry.

Yes, the 2nd Gen. one. Yeah, yeah, it's such a weird

looking. The plexiglass front on it

trying to emulate a Daytona, Yeah, yeah that was such a weird looking car. And then they then they then

they kind of went to the they they off.

They facelifted it, made a little bit less angry and it made it look even worse. So I was like, what were they

thinking? Yeah, then they're a pretty

weird thing. They are definitely a weird

thing. I mean the the French have done

weird cars for a long time. They haven't.

They like the do you reckon that they just go out of the way to to be to be weird or they just look at other designs and be like we can do it better? I think, I think it started with

innovation. I mean you look at cars like the

like 15, well even before that the like 15, the traction of that, you know the the first mass produced front wheel drive car, I think that wasn't the world that's a stunning bit of kicked in and I mean they still look awesome but but so far ahead of their time as was the DS after it.

But if something happened along the way and they just became sort of quirky, I think for quirky's sake.

It's a sweeping generalization, of course.

But I've worked on a nearly new Persia not that long ago and had to move it and it's like the steering wheel is like a go cut steering wheel. They've got the tiniest little

steering wheels in them now that cuts right across the instruments actually, yeah, the one I was driving.

Don't know if I had to adjust it correctly, but it was comfortable for me. But I still couldn't read the

instruments so. You are about that.

A lot of people are complaining even though even on Top Gear they were complaining. I remember years ago like the

top of the wheel cuts off the tack, cuts off the speed.

Like, who the hell signed off in this car?

Yeah, yeah. If not we here's one for you,

Subaru BRAT. It's a car that couldn't exist

today because those seats in the back would not be legal in.

A million years. Well, the Brumbie here as we as

we had them. But I would happily own a

Brumbie. I reckon it's just one of those

cool cars in the 80s that that that are weird and it is a weird car like like everybody that I I know that's had a had a had a brumbie, they said it's a toy. We don't really use it to carry

anything in the back of. So that was that was definitely

definitely a cool thing from from from the 80s.

But yeah there was some some weird weird weird cast in the 80s. If you had to pick the weirdest

kind of out of that list, what would it be?

You can't say just one everything's weird for their own reason. Some are weird because of how

they look. Some are weird because where

they were made and how they were made.

Some are weird because of the engines that.

So. I'd probably be leaning towards

ones that David has the Figaro and the S Cargo, because during that time, yeah, there's a lot of weird cars, but they still had that boxy look. So if you think for the time in

the 80s, you're used to that boxy look and all of a sudden these weird shapes curved. Ones like the figuro, you know,

completely weird. And out there.

And then that there's cargo from nowhere with just.

I don't know what the hell you'd even use it for, other than carrying. Like promotional purposes, I

think. Yeah.

Or or carrying. Um, you know, like large, large

trees. You could feel like a 2 meter

tree in there if you want. That's like came with a sunroof.

You could order a sunroof in those, so you have limited headroom in that. Yeah, that's just, yeah.

It's just so crazy out there and ticked off like, Yep, that's what we want. I was not saying that I thought

the AZ one was early 90s in his early 90s, but that we should do a 90s one because there's some weird cars in the. 90s, yeah,

which I think we'll do here. We can discuss next week, but

the. The AZ one at Sakura picnic

actually. Daniel's car is pretty amazing

and to see it. In the flesh you sort of really

get a grasp of how low and how small they are, I mean.

Yeah, I've just seen. I've just seen pictures of it.

It's incredible. So I sort of put it back on the

road. I sort of on the beat.

The green one, not too long ago. They're tiny.

I was like, I didn't realize how small they were.

I'm like, this is a tiny little toy.

This is a small car. Yeah, well they're all within

millimeters of each other, cuz that was the restrictions back then for K cars. They couldn't be any bigger.

So they push them out to within a couple of millimeters at the extreme as they do now. I mean all the current crop are

still size limited, but the size has crept up.

So you know any the N one's the same size as a Suzuki Alto and all the ones that all the current cake has at the same size, they've got to be under 3.4 meters long and 1.5 meters

wide. So that's not a big footprint

really with some K trucks. We haven't really talked about

from from the 80s as well. Like there's some weird some

some weird stuff from the from the 80s, but a lot of it was like Japan had some weird cars in the 70s too like that.

They had like, like they had the.

I don't think you can be specific about decades.

I don't think with I think you used today Honda had one.

It was like a little it looked like the Volkswagen theme.

Yeah. Vamos, vamos.

That's it. Vamos.

That's gone. That was.

Yeah, that's a weird to weird car.

Yeah, that's certainly out. The same engine as the scan,

basically the 360, yeah, yeah. And tiny, if I can find the

photo, I'll send you one, send you the photo of that.

But yeah, they're pretty cool. There's one in SA in 100 bits

and my. Crazy, mate.

The other David that you've met, Maddie.

He keeps threatening to buy one and bring it out.

But like all things there on the rise in Japan, to find a decent one of those now is pretty hard. There's a pretty they're very

popular over there as a classic Japanese car.

All right. It's like if I had to Midget,

there's Midget, yeah. Similar sort of thing, yeah, but

they just create. Cars you didn't know even into

the 90s and the 2000s. I mean the Suzuki X90, remember

this? Yeah, it was the same in the

front and back. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yep, Yep.

Those sort of things. Wonder if there are any of those

for sale. Well, pick, we're gonna pick one

gentleman. If we had to buy one, which one

are you gonna own? Wait, so can we buy and modify?

Sure I'll. Let you have it.

I'll let you have that okay well.

I've had my heart set and doing something for a while and it's more just when the time's right I'm gonna do it.

I wanna apply an 89 to add a election.

I wanna put A7 mgte in it. Well 89.

And a TR delivery, did they have like that?

Came out. Yeah, I just looked it up

before. Yeah, it must be a real early

one because that's what we would begin.

Yeah, really early ones, but yeah.

I want one. I reckon that would be one of

the funnest things to do. That would be hilarious.

Actually, that would be quite. Fun for me?

Geez, I'd like a Nissan, pal. I reckon they're they're kind of

cool. Yeah, but I don't know if that'd

be if that'd be the one, that'd be the other one I'd I'd, I'd own. Jesus, there's something there's

something we need to choose from.

But yeah, probably, probably in this in power.

I I kind of like them. Well, I I think for pure 80s

Ness, I can just see the shoulder pads and the disco ball from here, that it has to be vortex.

Vortex Yeah. Yeah, I mean, for me, that's the

that's the obvious one. Was like, yeah, I'll go vortex

filling, I'll mix up a bit, but Devin was glad you took the vortex. It's just, it's probably the

most eightiest, weirdest car I ever made.

Here's the other car. I'd have to agree.

I think that wins Scotty. Porsche 930 Turbo.

The window. It's weird.

It's weird. It is weird.

It is weird. Well, gentlemen, we are out of

time. It's always an honor and a

pleasure to do the show with you guys.

It. Was good fun, David.

Definitely. Good fun.

Yeah. Congratulations on winning the

car quiz. Thank you, Scotty.

You can. You can plug Scott's Snitches if

you want. Is it running?

Well, is that, yeah. I think I haven't fixed the

punch yet. So the punch is the.

I'm going to fix that. So you didn't snitch that to to

the thing so you didn't do a good job today.

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Thank you, Adrian. Hang on, hang on, I've got

something to announce. Adrian.

I'm scared. Jesus Christ.

Taken off before. You know we're done Saturday the

5th of June. All right.

It's gonna be from 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM.

We have a car show. Ooh, whatever.

On Craig. Even Okay.

All right. Yeah, it's gonna be first in

best dressed as in for parking spaces, cuz I don't have a lot I've got about. 30 spots, but the main thing is we have

trophies, we have some show bags that I'm in the middle of organizing, so we have a lot of stuff that is going to be there.

What was the date? So the 5th of June because it's

June day. What time?

10 AM to five is the actual car show, but if you want a good spot, come around 9:00. And then we'll bump everybody in

and then we just go throughout the day.

Whoever wants to leave or stay, they can go as well.

We have a KFC next door, so you can get fed.

But yeah, no, just thought I would let everybody know.

So you're welcome to come down, bring some nice cars.

As I said, we have trophies. I'll.

I'll be there. Is there a theme or is it just

cool cars? No, just whatever you want.

I've got, I think there's about eight or nine different trophies and I've got, I can't remember, I've got to go pull them out of storage. But there's like best Aussie,

there's JDM, I think there's Euro hot rod, there's like best paints. There's just a whole heap of

them. So yeah.

Very cool. I.

Want to see your feet there? That's exactly it.

Well, we will be there. Gentlemen, we have to go.

We're getting kicked out of the studio.

I thank you for your work today and I will see you next time.

Take it easy. Take care guys, The.

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