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Turn two at Indy steals the spotlight, with the hosts noting “more than 70% of the incidents occur in turn two” and debating whether airflow gaps or other factors are at play. They also break down a fuel-saving crash tied to “dirty air,” plus how rain-affected qualifying made “Every run mattered.” Hybrid rules, gear/limiter decisions, and qualifying-vs-race setup sensitivity all shape strategy, while race-week logistics and even a post-wreck bus mix-up round things out.
Slow news week, huh? Hinch, Rossi, and Thim sat down at Cracker Barrel for a live show with the fans to cover Alex's impressive run at qualifying, and what happened on Monday's practice.
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turn two incidents at Indy
"I do want to talk about the drama that exists in, in turn to like... all of the corners are the exact same. ... more than 70% of the incidents occur in turn two. ... the two times that I've had it a crash at Indy is turned two."
They’re talking about a specific race track corner—turn two—that seems to cause more trouble than the others. The goal is to figure out what makes that corner so accident-prone.
The hosts are discussing a pattern of crashes and incidents concentrated in turn two at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway (Indy). They’re trying to understand why that specific corner sees a disproportionate share of problems compared with other parts of the track.
short shoot
"Is there like a break in the short shoot? There's, there's a, there's a break in the middle of the corner, right?"
They’re talking about a specific straight section of the track (“short shoot”). They’re wondering if something about that section—like a break or layout change—could be part of why turn two is problematic.
“Short shoot” appears to be track-specific terminology for a straightaway section between parts of the corner complex. The hosts are questioning whether there’s a structural or layout break there that could contribute to instability or incidents.
wind tunnel effects on track structures
"but I wonder if that's got something to do with it because there is a gap in the structures that maybe wind tunnel affects something there."
They’re guessing that airflow around the track—especially near gaps in the buildings/structures—could affect what happens to the cars. In other words, it might be an aerodynamic problem, not just a rough patch of pavement.
The hosts speculate that a gap in the track’s structures near turn two could interact with airflow, potentially changing how the car behaves. They mention wind-tunnel influence as a possible reason the tire incident and the corner’s behavior might be linked to aerodynamics rather than just surface issues.
bump in turn two
"You know how there was a whole YouTube series on fixing the bump and turn two. Yeah. Yes. So the bump ain't it. That wasn't the problem. ... They didn't. So they went through that whole effort multiple bumps and didn't fix"
They mention a rough spot (“bump”) at turn two that people tried to fix. But they’re saying it might not actually be the main reason cars get into trouble there.
They reference a “bump” at turn two that was the subject of a prior YouTube series about fixing it. The discussion suggests the bump may not be the root cause of the incidents, implying other track or aerodynamic/structural factors could be involved.
fuel saving
"Actually, it's a, it's kind of the lamest way to crash, but we were fuel saving. And the way that the packs work in practice is everyone's quite nice to each other..."
Fuel saving is when drivers intentionally use less fuel than normal. That can make the car slower or change how they drive, especially when other cars are around.
“Fuel saving” in racing means adjusting driving and engine/energy usage to stretch fuel for the stint. It changes how aggressively the car is driven and can affect lap-to-lap behavior, especially in traffic or group running.
packs work in practice
"And the way that the packs work in practice is everyone's quite nice to each other because you're trying not to hang anyone out in a race."
A “pack” is when several cars are running close together. When one car changes speed, the others have to react quickly, which can be risky even in practice.
“Packs” in open-wheel racing refer to multiple cars running close together, often trading pace and drafting effects. In practice, pack behavior changes how drivers brake and lift, which can create sudden speed changes and higher risk if timing gets disrupted.
checkup effects
"And so when you're in practice, you can kind of get these big checkup effects and kind of this, this situation happened going into turn one."
In a tight pack, when one car suddenly slows, the cars behind have to react too. That can create a chain reaction where everyone’s braking timing gets messed up.
“Checkup effects” refers to the ripple of braking and lift-off moments that spreads through a group of cars. In close racing, one driver slowing can force others to react, increasing the chance of contact if everyone’s timing isn’t aligned.
RO P or a refresher
"And, you know, you get to the middle of the corner and it's very similar to when you do ROP or a refresher. The cars don't work at that, at that speed."
This sounds like a warm-up or practice routine to help the car and driver get back to the right speed. If you’re not in the right “sweet spot,” the car can behave differently than you expect.
“RO P or a refresher” is shorthand for a track-session routine used to get back up to speed—essentially a warm-up/learning lap sequence. The idea is that at the right speed the car’s aero and tires work in their optimal operating window, while being off that window can cause handling problems.
perfect window where the cars are working well
"I know it sounds counterintuitive, but there's, there's a perfect window where the cars, the cars working well. And if you go above that, you're obviously going to have problems."
Race cars have a speed/traction sweet spot. If you go outside it, the tires and aerodynamics don’t work the way they’re supposed to, and the car can get sketchy.
This describes an operating “window” where a race car’s tires and aerodynamics provide the grip and stability the driver expects. Outside that window—either too fast or too slow—the car can lose traction or balance, leading to unpredictable behavior.
dirty air
"So it was actually a crash because we were going too slow and dirty air is the moral of the story because it was about 20 miles an hour slower than I had gone through there in practice..."
Dirty air is what happens when another car’s airflow messes up the air around your car. That can make your car feel less planted and harder to handle.
“Dirty air” is disturbed airflow caused by another car, which can reduce downforce and make the following car less stable. The speaker’s point is that being in traffic (or in the wake) can force you to drive differently, and going too slow can worsen the situation.
fast 12
"We knew that the car speed was good enough to get into the fast 12. So for us, it was just a matter of do a run that, you know, you can, you can do."
“Fast 12” refers to a qualifying cut where only the top 12 cars/entries advance to the next stage. Teams plan runs around getting into that group, balancing risk versus the car’s pace. The key is that you can’t always push at maximum effort on every attempt if you want to avoid mistakes or poor lap timing.
over trimmed
"And what did we even though we told ourselves for 18 hours after fast Friday, an easy run, I'll get us in we don't have to trim that much. We can just go out and do something simple. What did we do? We over trimmed for the conditions and it was hell."
“Over trimmed” means the car was set up a bit too aggressively for the conditions. That can make the car feel wrong or harder to drive. The result is usually slower laps and more stress during the run.
“Over trimmed” means the car was adjusted too far in the setup direction for the track and conditions. In racing, trimming typically affects balance and how the car behaves through corners (for example, how eager it is to turn versus how stable it feels). If you overdo it, the car can become difficult to drive and lap times suffer.
hybrid deploy and regen strategy
"And one thing that was, was pretty cool. And I can't play. I'm going to say this, but it was pretty cool about qualifying this year compared to last year is there was at least 10, maybe more different strategy, a hybrid strategies in play, which had a significant impact in not only the, the best lap that you could do, but at what point in the run that lap came, what your average was. And so for us, we were, we were on a different hybrid deploy and regen strategy every single run."
Hybrid cars can use battery power for extra push, and they can also “charge” the battery when braking. The team has to choose when to use the battery power and when to recharge it. Doing that differently each lap can change both how fast you go and how consistent your lap is.
In hybrid racing, “deploy” is when the car uses stored electrical energy (often from a battery) to add extra power. “Regen” (regenerative braking) is when the car slows down and converts some of that motion back into electrical energy. A “strategy” means deciding how much deploy and how much regen to use on each lap to maximize lap time and keep the battery state usable.
wind velocity
"based on the wind direction and the wind velocity. You would see what competitors were doing."
“Wind velocity” is the speed of the airflow, which affects aerodynamic downforce and drag. The hosts connect it to strategy decisions because IndyCars are described as highly sensitive to wind and setup, influencing how teams plan hybrid deployment and gearing.
fast Friday
"that made other strategies seem like desirable, but also you go through fast Friday. How many runs did you do in fast Friday for four?"
“Fast Friday” is a racing weekend session where teams run multiple practice/qualifying-style runs to dial in setup and strategy. In the segment, they compare how many runs and which hybrid strategy they used during that specific day.
qualifying
"And then you did three different ones through actual qualifying. Yes. Right."
“Qualifying” is the session that determines starting positions, typically with timed laps. The hosts discuss using different hybrid strategies during qualifying runs, implying how energy rules affect on-track performance.
energy limits
"Maybe he didn't bring his bell a little bit. The, what changed was the Indy car, so they set the energy limits, which is how much you can regen and deploy in a lap."
Energy limits are the race rules that cap how much battery power the car can use and how much it can recharge. If you hit the limit, you can’t keep using the extra power until the next reset window.
In IndyCar hybrid racing, “energy limits” are the rules-based caps on how much electrical energy you can use (deploy) and recover (regen) over a lap or stint. They determine whether teams can run aggressive assist repeatedly or must ration it to avoid hitting the cap.
battery capacitor pack
"And they also set the rate at which you can deploy. So the speed at which the battery capacitor pack drains..."
The “battery capacitor pack” refers to the energy storage hardware used by the hybrid system. The hosts note that IndyCar changed how quickly it drains, which directly affects how much energy can be deployed repeatedly across laps.
regen and deploy on a single lap
"So what that did was it allows you to deploy and regen on a single lap without hitting an energy limit."
The hosts describe a strategy shift enabled by the updated hybrid rules: teams can both recover energy (regen) and use it (deploy) within the same lap without hitting the energy limit. That changes race tactics because it allows more frequent hybrid assist instead of saving it for later.
wind and gear sensitive
"because of the wind conditions, you know, these cars are incredibly wind and gear sensitive."
“Wind and gear sensitive” describes how strongly IndyCar performance depends on both aerodynamic conditions (wind) and drivetrain gearing. The hosts use it to justify changing gear choice to manage RPM limits and hybrid energy recovery across laps.
engine rev limiter
"So you could intentionally put a shorter six gear in the car for the back straight... knowing that you would get into the soft limiter, so the, the engine rev limiter for it, the engines protection."
An “engine rev limiter” is an electronic protection system that prevents the engine from exceeding a safe maximum RPM. In the segment, they mention intentionally using a shorter gear to reach the soft limiter, then leveraging that situation to recover energy via regen.
gear strategy
"So it's depending on the wind. It's your gear strategy. It's your work in the fast jacker."
“Gear strategy” means deciding what gear to be in and when to shift while driving. Drivers do it to keep the car pulling strongly and to help the car handle better.
“Gear strategy” is how a driver plans which gears to use and when to shift during a run. In racing, the goal is to keep the engine in its best power/response range while also managing traction and stability through corners and exits.
quality sim
"So it's depending on the wind. It's your gear strategy. It's your work in the fast jacker."
A “quality sim” is a serious practice session in a simulator. It’s meant to mimic qualifying so the driver can get the routine down.
A “quality sim” is a high-fidelity simulator session aimed at replicating the conditions and procedures of a real qualifying run. The focus is on practicing the exact sequence of tasks so the driver can execute consistently when it matters.
fast jacker
"So it's depending on the wind. It's your gear strategy. It's your work in the fast jacker."
A “fast jacker” is a quick-adjust tool used to change the car’s height fast. Changing ride height can help the car grip and handle better.
A “fast jacker” refers to a pit/driver-side setup used to quickly adjust the car’s ride height during a race weekend procedure. The idea is to change aerodynamic balance and tire contact quickly, so the car works better as conditions change.
hybrid deployment strategy
"You're doing your hybrid deployment strategy."
“Hybrid deployment strategy” is when the car uses its extra hybrid power. The driver times it so the car gets the most benefit without wasting energy.
A “hybrid deployment strategy” is the plan for when and how the hybrid system’s extra power is used during a run. Drivers and teams time deployments to maximize acceleration while managing energy usage and traction, especially when wind and track grip vary.
weight jack
"You're doing your gear strategy. It's your work in the fast jacker. You're doing the weight jack or in the bars for balance."
A “weight jack” is about moving or adjusting weight on the car. That can change how the car grips and how it feels when you turn.
A “weight jack” is a procedure/tool used to shift or adjust vehicle weight distribution quickly, typically to affect balance and traction. In racing, small changes in balance can noticeably change how the car turns and how stable it feels under load.
bars for balance
"You're doing the weight jack or in the bars for balance."
“Bars for balance” means adjusting the anti-roll bars that help control body roll. That affects whether the car feels more stable or more eager to turn.
“Bars for balance” refers to using anti-roll bars (sway bars) or similar bar components to tune handling balance. By changing how much the suspension resists roll, teams can make the car more stable or more responsive depending on track and conditions.
muscle memory
"You're getting muscle memory of doing all these things and making sure you don't forget something because it's easy to do, right?"
“Muscle memory” means your body learns a repeated routine so you can do it without thinking too hard. That helps when everything is happening fast.
“Muscle memory” here means the driver repeatedly practicing a complex sequence until it becomes automatic. In racing, that reduces the chance of forgetting steps when workload is high and conditions change.
driver sequencing
"Like the first two runs of fast Friday. Like I completely screwed up the sequence whether it's hard to get it right. Yeah, whether it was the gear strategy, whether it was the hybrid strategy, whether."
“Driver sequencing” means doing the steps in the right order and at the right time. If the order is off, the car won’t be set up correctly when you need it.
“Driver sequencing” is the order and timing of the driver’s actions during a run—shifts, setup adjustments, and hybrid deployment steps. Getting the sequence wrong can hurt lap time because the car may not be in the right balance/power state at the moment you need it.
Speedway gearboxes
"That engine that is gone was coming out anyways. So RIP and we have spare Speedway gearboxes. The floor and the front wing and the underwing has all been validated in the April test."
A gearbox is the part that helps the engine deliver power efficiently by changing gear ratios. For oval races, teams set it up differently than they would for road courses.
A gearbox is the transmission unit that changes gear ratios so the engine can stay in its best operating range. In Indy-style oval racing, teams often refer to “Speedway gearboxes” because the gearing and setup are tuned for sustained high-speed running and specific track characteristics.
front wing
"So RIP and we have spare Speedway gearboxes. The floor and the front wing and the underwing has all been validated in the April test."
The front wing is a piece on the front of the car that uses airflow to push the car down onto the track. More downforce generally means better grip and stability.
The front wing is an aerodynamic device mounted at the nose that generates downforce and helps stabilize the car. On oval cars, the front wing’s angle and endplate details strongly affect how the car grips in high-speed corners and how it balances with the rear.
underwing
"The floor and the front wing and the underwing has all been validated in the April test. So it's going to be a car that's just as good as the last one."
The underwing is an aero part under the car that helps press the car to the track. It’s part of how race cars get grip at high speed.
The underwing refers to aerodynamic surfaces beneath the car that work with the floor to create downforce. In open-wheel oval racing, underbody aero is crucial because it helps maintain traction and stability at speed without relying only on the wings.
race running
"So the car, this car, if we say had to go qualify, it might be .2 tenths of a mile an hour slower than the car that I had. But in race running that irrelevant."
Race running is how the car behaves during the actual race, not just one fast lap. It’s more about staying consistent for a long time than chasing the absolute fastest moment.
Race running refers to how the car performs over the full event, including tire wear, fuel/engine management, and stability over many laps. The speaker contrasts qualifying pace sensitivity with race running, arguing that small differences that affect qualifying don’t meaningfully change race results.
carb day practice
"Welcome to Indiana and May. Normally any car will try hard on carb day. If there is weather, they'll move stuff around. They'll try to get you guys that session."
Carb day practice is an Indy 500 weekend practice where teams get the car dialed in before race day. Drivers use it to confirm the setup and make sure everything feels right.
Carb day practice is the practice session associated with the Indianapolis 500 weekend, traditionally held on the day teams finalize engine/airbox “carburetor” settings before the race. It’s treated as a key on-track moment for dialing in the car’s baseline setup.
500
"Have you heard? Nobody cares about carb day practice is the weenie 500. Listen, I care extensively about carb day practice this year. Why did something happen?"
“The 500” refers to the Indianapolis 500, one of the biggest races in American open-wheel racing. The talk is about how practice feeds into being ready for the main race.
“The 500” is shorthand for the Indianapolis 500, the marquee oval race on the IndyCar calendar. The speaker contrasts carb day practice with the race itself, emphasizing that the practice matters because it supports performance for the main event.
Volkswagen Bus
"... change into it? I was like no problem ran to the bus lot. I was like, I don't. I don't see the bus. It..."
A Volkswagen Bus is a van made to carry several people and their stuff. It’s known for its distinctive shape and roomy interior. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because someone is talking about finding or getting to one.
The Volkswagen Bus is a classic, boxy van known for carrying people and cargo, often used as a practical family vehicle or for road trips. It’s a recognizable icon from Volkswagen’s lineup, so it comes up in stories about finding, spotting, or getting into one quickly. In a podcast context, it likely relates to the speaker’s experience with locating or using a Bus on short notice.
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