What happened to the forums?

There's a professional radio. There was this front wheel drive

so. Have you got anyone you want to

thank? Just myself.

And now I do the after hours, gentlemen.

What would you go for? They see us in.

There. OK, and because it's not a super

duck, what it is, it's not. Automatic perfection comes in

the form of. 2 letters A&U. Long live my Ltd.

Welcome to Car Talk. It's choosing out here at 90.9

Northwest FM. It's me, Maddie J online with Mr

Edward Bunting and Mr Scotty Doe Johnson.

How are you, gentlemen? Good evening, Matthew.

Good evening, Scott. Well.

Good evening to you all. Very good.

Good. We've got a few more people

jumping on very shortly. We just had some we just had

some technical difficulties to getting on the podcast tonight.

Internets have decided not to work for us, Danny at the studio. So we're making the best of what

we have. To our listeners live, welcome.

And to you, Edward and Scotty, welcome.

How are you guys? Let's crack on with you and your

car updates. Edward Bunting.

It's been a while. Hello, I don't know.

If you, I don't know if you've listened to the latest episode, but the, the, the, the 31's driving mate, it's on the road.

It's happening. It's done.

I've just passed that in shock. I can't wait for Scott's car

update if that's the case. That's been a while coming it.

Has been he he in feel if informed us how we got it the last bits done and it's driving around in the happy days Scotty.

Wow. So.

Straight to Scott's car update. They're more exciting than mine.

Well Scotty, anything else on the 31 this weekend?

We'll start with you then. Anything else on the 31?

Nothing that I've done or worked on.

I did get the new fan. I got a new.

Clutch. Fan.

That's meant to be 40% better air flows.

I got that. I haven't fitted it yet, but

pretty easy. Yeah, just remember a lot of

them are are reversed threads, yeah.

Oh, it's OK, it tells you what direction to put it in.

OK, perfect. Yep, Yep, Yep.

So it says all that and I've got the the other little piece for the gauge so I could do water temps.

I've got that that little bit that came together that all arrived not too long ago, and now I just was looking today and I thought I might buy a new throttle cable for it too.

OK. The old one looks, you know,

kind of is. It a bit frayed or something

like what's made you do. That it's frayed and it's been

on the car since 89 so. It's a bit how you going.

Yeah, I thought, why not? Because I can get one here for

$88 brand new. Yeah, good.

I replaced one of those on the Moke when I recommissioned it and it like the old one worked, but you don't realise how bad they are until you put the new one on.

And then it was really silky, you know, just that throttle movement. I was like, Oh yeah, that's a

good thing to replace. Yeah, but people don't often

think of it. You think, oh, that's just how

it is. Yeah, 'cause it feels the

accelerator feels a bit stiff and just, you know, a little bit how you're going. Not the way it would be.

So I will purchase that momentarily.

I'll probably get a fresh fresh new gear knob for it too and get just the replacement ones, the stock looking ones that the R31 has and I'll slap that on there too.

Yeah, good idea, good idea. So it's it's all happening.

Rego and now it's just like change your own gears.

Clutch is. Good, all works.

Yeah, yeah, Clutch feels great. Feels really good actually.

I look. Forward to having a spin in that

I want to have a drive of. It yeah, you certainly can.

Yep. I'm going to give it a service

as well. That's nice and easy, very easy

to get to that oil philtre and change that.

So I'll do that. I've got to service the blade

too. I've got the philtre and the

philtre remover tool. I just haven't got the oil yet

and I'm just tossing out what brands and things to go with which is and right, yeah, always did go Penn, right.

I'm just thinking the oh sure, for I think what was in it originally was a 10 was a 530 was they were putting a 530 in it, I think maybe a 10. Yeah, a 530 for A2 GR is very

common. That's probably what I would

stick with. That's what I brought in two GRS

before my dad's two GR 5:30, but I I've always pushed him for either the Castrol Edge 5:30 or the Neuron 530, which is really good. I actually quite like the neuron

stuff. Yeah, look at the Castrol Edge.

I see they changed their packaging, the packaging when I was having a look, because I need to get A5 litre and A1 litre. I don't want to buy 2/5.

It's a little bit annoying. How much oil do they take

actually? Yeah, it's kind of just annoying

amount. So I was, I was having a look

and just a couple of places I went to just didn't have the one litre and I thought I'm not, I'm not going to buy the 25 litre ones when I don't need it. They'll cost them too much.

So just wait a little bit longer and grab that.

Yeah, nice. And yeah, I'll just stick with

5W30. They were using a Japanese

engine oil because it's still at the sticker inside the car.

Wacos or something. It was Wacos, so it was a 5:30,

so I'll keep it as 5:30. And yeah, probably go something

a bit thicker in the in the old RB30, don't know, maybe 2050 or something probably. Yep.

We'll have to double check what it takes, but yeah, it'd probably be something along those lines.

It's, you know, cast iron block, you know, it's alloy head, you know, pretty simple stuff. Yeah, so.

And now they need a 5 litre bottle.

Yeah. That's always satisfying, isn't

we don't have to buy that little extra bottle for you.

Yeah, it's. Good.

We'll go the big 10 litre and then you never use it all.

And so I was like, there's always oil sitting around, yeah.

It was good when the Subaru only used I see it was like 4 almost 4.8 or something. Yeah.

So you'd have that bit leftover for when it leaks, so you keep.

Topping it up? Perfect.

That came in handy one. 100%. Good Subaru things, they think.

These engineers, these Subaru engineers, they think ahead.

They do. They know the head gasket's

going to leak. Quite common actually.

Is it other than like head gasket Lee like but they leak oil from the head gaskets? They do, and they and they leak

from the from the valve covers as well.

Yeah, valve covers is common. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very nice.

Well, look forward to my drive. We are also joined by Mr

Alamdeep Singh, who's currently driving and.

Not I'm I'm in one of them American cars.

The drivers on the other side doesn't assume will just rest my hand here he's. Right, he is too.

It's. Like that court case where the

guy was suspended from driving and he's driving in the car while he's called like the 4th calling report.

Oh, I saw that. Yes.

The judge was like, wait, are you driving right now?

He's like, hang on, let me pull over.

You're old that I'm driving. Usually technical discourse at

the station we. Also, no, you, you're good mate,

you're good. We are also joined by Mr Adrian

Degiorgio for all the way from Japan it looks like.

But no, he's in Nah. Just in my room.

You did go to. Japan.

Adrian, you. Did.

Yes, I did and I want to go back.

Everyone likes Japan. Oh yeah, and definitely say that

one. Yeah, and how are you, Adrian?

Yeah, same old car complain. That's it.

Yeah, it's just just going along.

We just keep, we just keep it up with everyone's car updates.

So Scotty's 30 ones on the road, manual swapped, everything's good. It's it's loving life, Edward

bunting up with you now. It's been a while.

It has been a while. Sorry I've been I don't know

where I've been last few weeks. I was going to say I've been

away. I haven't really been away.

I just had stuff on I don't know anyway, here now updates the most exciting recent update and it's a small one, but I think a worthwhile on Matthew. You'll appreciate this.

A friend of mine from the Honda Club, not Mr Prince, different member, messaged me and said, oh, there's a Tarago out at Jolly's, you know, And I was like, that's cool.

He sent me a photo of it and I was like, I don't really need anything. Like my van is quite good in

much respects. You know, it's not like it needs

a buck, a load of parts. So it's always satisfying but

also a bit frustrating to see one at the record because you're like, oh, I could get that as a spare.

I could. And then you're like, well, how

many spares? What do you hoard a whole car?

Like, come on. Anyway, one thing it did have

was factory headlight covers and I said check them out because if they're any good and they're all cracked and stone chipped and whatever, I think I should get those.

So he got them for me, $15 plus some mudder, and they're in really nice condition. Genuine.

Left hand, right hand factory headlight covers and they got the line, you know that they got the the black lines through it.

It just, I don't know, it gives the front end a real premium feel. I fitted them.

I picked him up last night from his house.

I fitted them last night and a typical Toyota, there's like a little Chrome hook and then the screw goes in.

You know, it was all well thought out.

And. I was like dust some more.

So it's had 400. And 20,000 KS, it's about to

click over in like 200 KS to 420 of no headlight protection, but now it's got headlight protection for the next 420.

So that's that's got protection now, which is probably too little too late, but it looks good and that's all I'm about.

Hope. So, so that's the trigo.

The Merc 300C had had a persistent back left brake squeak for a long time. It would happen more when it was

hot. It was diagnosed that the the

rear calliper was sticking and you know, sort of grinding down the disc more than it should, but also just making annoying noise and also probably affecting performance a bit because it was dragging a bit. So cause of that was just sort

of corroded rear brake calliper piston thing.

Would you believe buying a piston reseal kit?

You can buy the kit easily enough, but not with the piston in it. Online only.

No one in Australia had that part.

So it was stuck on the mechanic's hoist for a couple of weeks and I ended up sourcing new callipers through another friend from overseas. It was easier just to buy a

whole Bosch calliper and just bolt on, you know, rather than try and rebuild the old ones. I've still got the old ones, but

so that had. New rear.

Discs, new rear callipers, right front tie rod in which because it had a clunk when you go over driveways or you turn it to get clunk, clunk, you know, something in the front end was loose. So new tie rod in front end

wheel alignment, oil change, philtre change and new transmission selector shaft bushes.

It felt like with that car almost overnight, you know when you move the gated shifter, it went from being really tight because it's not a high mileage car to feeling really loosey goosey. It was almost just like

overnight and I remember thinking I don't remember this car being that loosey. What's going on?

This was a while ago, so I said, can you just sort that out and which they did. So there's two kind of bushes

tucked in underneath on the on the road of so it's nothing to do with removing the transmission tunnel or the console or anything. It's still under the car.

But once you replace those rubber bushes, oh, back to brand new does Samara, you know, you move it from parked reverse to drive whatever. It feels really good.

So all that was done. I got that car back and went,

oh, I remember why I like this car's driving really well now.

Good tick. I cleaned the roof on the mocha

few weeks ago which was like, you know, it was just grimy from years of never been cleaned and it's still faded blue denim fabric stuff. But at least it's cleaner.

Blue faded denim fabric stuff. So.

I. Spent a couple of hours out

there with the diesel and a magic sponge and yeah, that made a big difference. So that's nicer.

What else can I tell you about cars I'm driving around in the Five series? Still, did we talk about the

Five series last? You haven't.

Mentioned your five series you purchased.

I haven't. Mentioned it no.

Dude, I. Really haven't been on for a

long time so I bought an E sixty 525I plain Jane sedan.

As in plain Jane being no M Sport pack.

It's a sort of a greyish, pinkish brownish colour called amethyst grey. It's an unusual colour, sort of

like coffee colour maybe. And it's got a tan seats with

black carpets. It's, it's a real grandpa speck.

And I sort of bought it 'cause my friend flicked me the link and I went, oh, that looks all right.

So, you know, it was from an auction and I took, took a punt 'cause it sort of looked really clean and original.

And thankfully it is. I got in it and drove it and

was, I was very hesitant. I thought of you, Scotty,

walking up to it. I'm thinking what's not going to

work on this thing? What's what's going to be busted

on this thing? You know what's?

Going to be BMW on this thing. Hashtag, you know. 04 BMW

anything going? To.

Go. Exactly, that was my fear.

So I got in at the locks worked. I started it, it's kicked over

straight away. It was beautifully smooth at

idle. I went OK.

The old M54, I think it is, is, you know, sounds healthy.

And then as I drove out of the auction place and down the freeway, I was like, oh, this things lovely.

It's just so smooth. And as I was coming over the

Westgate Bridge, I thought, oh, I'll turn the stereo on.

And to my lovely surprise, in the glove box is the six CD stacker full of grandpa's classics.

You got Dean Martin, you got Elvis, you got you got John Farnham. It's all there.

And I was like, so I was driving over the Westgate home and literally the song was born. Free, it's free as the wind

blows. And I was like, this is this has

been a. Very much a grandpa car.

So I'm. Really liking the five.

Everyone that's driven it so far has gone, oh, this drives really nicely. It's so smooth and quiet and all

those reasons why some of us like BMWs when they work, you know they do do a nice inline 6. So.

That's that car. It's.

Registered now it's for sale. I just put it on car sales

tonight. If anyone wants to buy A5

series, seemingly it's a good one.

The. Other car I bought recently.

Was a swift. I've had a few Swifts.

This is just a little O8 manual Swift in silver.

They're. Always a good thing.

They're just like, you know, jam on toast.

They're just they're just good 166 KS on that.

Nothing really crazy wrong with it.

The roadie. It just needed the headlights

done because they all go a bit manky with the sun and.

What? Else do you need O2 front tyres?

That was it. So.

Yeah, pretty good, good. Little car, cold air con and I

just think for 5:00-ish grand you really cannot go past a swift I. Mean, you know, if it had if it

had a a grommet in the in the boot missing.

Oh my God. Yes, and.

And rust underneath one of the one of the the rubber seals I.

Know right? I still.

I still. I still talk about your your 31

experience, Scotty, all the time.

I'm like, hell, that was the weirdest bloody car thing.

I've like, you know, roadworthy experience I've ever heard.

It was. Rather a lot of things on that

list, I recall. Yeah, it.

Was a good sized list and I. Think other than that.

Over the. Summer I've driven the MX5 a bit

I don't think. Any other crazy car updates?

Nice. Oh, sorry.

Big one, you're involved. Matthew J.

Jaro Jaro was at my house. For like 3 or 4 days when cars

are at my house, I do stuff on them.

I start tinkering. Matthew was involved in this.

I don't know if I mentioned this on the last time I was here, but we did the we took the headlight covers off which which are not the factory ones. It's not like I'm removing the

Tarago style factory ones. They were shit ones.

Adrian's still got the light force blue spotty covers on.

They're good. Everyone thinks I'm a cop.

I like those the the aerial was shit was like limp.

It was like one of those sort of little stubby rubbery aerials for the CB and I just felt not very masculine with it.

So I got off Maddie J, one of those big stiff like don't fuck with me aerials. Then Maddie helped put that in

and that looks really good. I feel much more secure driving

around with that and. Your masculinity has been

restored, Yeah. Exactly I'm.

Very butched like a. Man, yeah.

Yeah, 100%. And then thinking the camera, it

had this really ordinary little screen that was sort of tacked on top of the dash just so you can see the tow bar.

You know, when you're backing up, you don't have to get out of the car to look at the tow bar. You just back straight up and

straight under it, which is very handy because I do tow caravan, I do tow trailers and I always found that camera.

I wouldn't have added it myself because it was there.

It was like, this is actually quite handy.

Anyway, Maddie was stepping around with the the lead on the camera thing and because we had to put a new dash mat in as well and and somehow we must have pressed on the screen and then the camera went on the Fritz. The screen was all mank.

So. Maddie very kindly put in.

A. New camera for me that I've got

a good deal on which is much better and so that's another upgrade so that the pages had aerial upgrading camera upgrade thanks to Matthew J and his after hours efforts.

You know, just just doing the Lord's work.

Well, we were. Doing the Lord's work till

nearly midnight, I think that night and and Matt's like, oh, I love doing this. And I'm thinking, Oh my God, I'm

ready to go home. I'm some fry.

But I wasn't even doing the work.

I was just like chatting. But.

Yes, that that car's had a little bit of a a rejuvenation.

Can I just? Say that new camera and screen

is far better than the one you had.

Oh yeah. Way better.

Way better, really. I have it like a. 20 year old

horrible thing I think that's about.

It I don't yeah, I. Don't think there's anything

else. Oh, shut up, Adrian.

Degiorgio, welcome back. I'm back.

Not wrong. I might be back.

Updates with you mate, what's happening on your end?

Discussed. So I've got 2 questions.

The M3 is still broken and. It's never not going to be

broken and. If if that's not your daily

anymore, you need to tell us what your new daily is.

Disco's up for sale so I'm waiting for someone to buy that.

OK, whoever buys that is going to get a steal.

What? Year.

Is that? Car. 90. 8.

So it's a disco. 11. The latest of them?

Yep. 300 TDI auto. 300 TDI auto Yeah.

What colour blue? How many K4?

40. And with.

Roadworthy. No roadie, no roadjo, never got

around to it as is as is, but it comes with pads and rotors have just been done. Wheel bearings have just been

done. It's got a brand new bull bar.

It's got brand new spotlights UHF.

It has the mechanical pitch injector pump mod so it runs a bit better. Yeah, has a big front mount on

it. What else is that?

There's Jesus, I can't remember. There's a whole heap of spares

that go with it. God draws for the back.

Got a fridge like I've just bought everything ready to go, put it on and then I got bored. How?

Much are you asking for this car?

Adrian 5. Grand which when you look at

everything that goes with it, yeah, it's actually quite a steal. Any bites?

On it. Nothing at all.

Where's the ad? On the Facebooks.

I'm looking now, I'm not going to save.

Him. You.

Do that, you do that. No, like honestly, there's so

much that goes with that car. It's not funny.

It's just it's not installed. Everything's like half installed

and I'm like I can't be bothered anymore so.

OK. Whoever ends up getting that is

going to have a good or what? Kind of touring.

Vehicle Kings 80 litre stand up. You want to sell the fridge

separate. Well.

We can have discussions, you and me.

We talk, We'll. Have a bit of discussion later.

Yeah. All right, All right.

I'm just looking up on marketplace.

So that's that's at the door. Yeah, M3 is just there for now

and we'll. Start sending you a message from

you. It's like I've.

Waited for it I'll. Give you a grant for it, maybe?

You know Alan. Alan, you and I have had very

good dealings in cars. Yeah, I know that.

But it's. Just funny, yeah.

So yeah, M3 is just sitting there at the moment.

I'm not doing anything with it. I chucked a set of wheels on it

and I've got coilovers ready to go in, but just haven't had a chance to do anything with that yet.

And I've got a new daily OK. So what is your new what?

Is this? The new daily is something I

picked up quite cheap off a mate.

Like always, it's Japanese and it has its issues.

Yeah, that's that sounds about right.

It's actually drives quite nicely, it's just got boosting issues so I may or may not have purchased a 2001 M 35 stage here. Oh cool.

So I thought I'd get something more practical as a daily.

It's the VQ25 Det. Yeah, I was going.

To say 2.5 litre turbo those. Yep.

Anthony. Had one Anthony Turbo.

Terry had one of those. Yeah.

He had an he had an it was an RX I think it was.

It was the the cladding and everything.

It was 2.5 turbo. His was modified, had a bigger

turbo made, made good power. Well, that's that's the same as

this one. That's the only reason I

purchased it because my mate that when he had it, like he told me everything was done to it, which is just about everything. It's just the boost controller

that's on it isn't liking life. So I don't think I got to take

that off, but it's one that wires into the ECU.

So bit worried about that one might have to start cutting things out. But you know this thing is

awesome. It's what do I have on a high

flow turbo Scotty's dump pipe full Fujitsu Fujitsu Bo exhaust had an intake on it, but it's back to the original one at the moment. It's got some Pixie AVC boost

controller thing. It's got a Impul rear bar aero

front bar custom dash that has three gauges on it, but that that's like about it. It's fine.

That's white. They're white nice.

It's got some terrible black wheels on it so I've got to replace them at some point and it needs a sound system on the ASAP, but apart from that look, I enjoy driving it every day.

How? Long you had that for.

The three weeks now. Nice.

Yeah, so just got it. It's already a road where it is

and stuff. Registered my name, already got

custom plates on it. What have?

You got this time broken stadium.

I. Was thinking of.

Like sticking with the whole broken saga, but I'm like, nothing's ever come good from that so it's just got standard 35 waggon. OK, that's pretty cool.

Yeah, so, but it's all right. Like it's auto all wheel drive.

I'm not sure if it's one of the Hecas models or not.

I haven't really played around with that too much, but it may be. What does that?

Mean Adrian. It's got the four wheel

steering. Oh.

OK. So I've got A to see if it

works, though I've got to take a look at the fuse and see if it's in there, because it does in the fuse box.

It does have the little logo there, but I haven't popped it yet to take the Squiz. And usually if it's been taken

out, it's been doing skids at some point in its life and it's been doing skids it's and no longer has super hikers and then it's yeah, no. But the the one thing that's

cool about it is I was taking a look under it.

It's got 3 strut braces that have been put underneath like they're welded in to make sure it's like that little bit better in the corners. And they have an issue the same

as the M Threes where the subframe in the rear has issues.

On these, it's on the actual subframe, whereas on the M threes it's on the actual frame of the car.

So I was like, oh crap, really another car going to deal with but he's like no, don't worry about it.

It's like we've already done it. We've got a whole new subframe

got it all welded up again. Yeah, it's all perfect.

That's. Awesome.

And I'm. Like, oh nice.

So, but yeah, I, I'm enjoying it driving until from work at the moment. Just trying to gauge where it's

at. Unfortunately it's had a bit of

a a past life, so I'm trying to bring it back to its former glory. Well, that's good man.

So any other projects on the on the side or that's pretty much it at the moment. Dad and I have two projects

going OK. Cool.

One I can't say because it's it's a secret at the moment, but the other one we've got a little, I think it's 1978 if I remember correctly, a little lunch of beta.

Coupe lunch of beta? Yep.

Yeah, the story about how we got it is another interesting story.

We'll leave it at that for now, but yeah, we got one of those.

So we're in the middle of ripping it all apart and getting it all back together how we want it.

Cool. That's a cool car.

I like the shape of those. They're good.

Looking car. The shape's cool.

The one thing that was disappointing is the fact that they're front and wheel drive. But what the biggest can't be

choosers. You know, we we still enjoy it.

We've got a whole heap of parts for it.

I like the fact that it's carbureted.

That's they sound so good with the I've got we've been bought twin downdrafts. I think they were.

So yeah, it can have another carburetor on it sound that little bit better too, yeah. Cool, so.

But that's an ongoing quest, yeah.

Nice, our friend. Rowan, who has the Nimbus, he

got the Carbi rebuilt by going Keilor who he just found online somewhere I think and said he was sort of really old school and knew what he was doing. And it's runs beautifully.

You know, it had sort of flat spots and it was like not ribbing cleanly. And yeah, so I don't know how

good you are with carb Exagger, but if you need someone to play with Carby and put a kit through it or something.

There's. Guys out.

There, Look, I'm not any good, I am terrible once it comes to carbies, but the guy that's going to be building the engine actually did his apprenticeship on these engines.

Oh lovely, so. He's like he was already looking

at it and he's like, OK, we can Chuck a nice supercharger on here, We can Chuck a turbo over here and we're like no, no, no, no, it stays. NA, that's it.

Wow, I want. To keep it NA, but I want a high

revving so we're in the discussion of trying to figure out how to get it up to about 7 or 8 grand.

Is that going to involve like a mild camshaft or something or?

It's going to have a lumpy Cam as well.

OK, but. Yeah, it can't.

Can't wait for that one. It's going to be a nice little

Sunday car. Nice.

What colour is that red? No, currently is.

I don't know why but the original owner spray painted it, rattle canned it black. Oh.

No, but. It was a really, really nice

silver. I have like a Pearl in it.

OK, so. We're going to get try to go

back to a silver. Nice, yeah.

So have a fun project. Yeah, yeah.

That's exactly it. So.

But apart from that, that's it. Nothing.

Nothing else, just working. Updates with you and we're

moving on to tonight's topic, Hang.

On I'm trying to mute myself. Just give me a second, lady.

We'll start with your updates, unless you've already done them.

I've got. I've got nothing to update with.

Not even headlight covers. How many 15 cars do you have now

reduced? It to five.

So actually no I do. I do have an update.

I had a car accident also. I went forward, I did.

I did have a is you're. Always having a bit of a tap

here or there, yeah. I've decided that you know I've

got you might have to take. The bus, yeah.

I would have to take the bus. So what happened was I went to

the doctors because I've been I've been ill and I was driving home and it was a, you know, busy time of day.

And I pull up behind, behind this BMWX one who was blowing smoke, because they all do. Because BMWs valve stem oil

seals, Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, so I'm, you know, got a decent guy, but he's at the front of the he's he's quite literally at the front of the line and I'm behind him. Anyway, light goes green, he

waits a second and he takes off. I'm like, OK, so I take my foot

off the clutch like I, I and then basically sees his car fly in front of the guy like this lady around the red light and he slams the brake and turns to miss her.

The car beside him turns to miss him.

And then basically by the time I took my foot off the clutch, I had to put it back on and I had just rolled into him.

That's your fault. Matthew.

My fault after all that and and what we pulled over and he's like, he's like, I'm not even angry at you.

He's like that stupid. I'm not going to say the

language he used. Yes.

Yeah. But what was crazy because like

it's a four lane Rd going straight and one main where she was coming across. So like the two cars that didn't

go was were were him and the guy next to us.

But but the person on the left of us and the person on two cars down on the right of us went and she was just like, she just kind of like dodged them and just kept driving and she just drove up like nothing happened. Now which?

Car, were you in the laser? Yeah.

I was in the laser so. The laser that, that thing has

had a lot of hits. It's.

Hits so I I think. You need to retire that thing,

yeah. That.

Poor car I. I barely, I like, I barely

bumped him like I, I bumped him at like a kilometre an hour and did did it. Do anything?

Did it bust him? No.

Oh, I knew. No, you're all good.

So. Like it, it, it kind of just

chipped a bit bit of the paint and, and it was already cooked in there from the person that ran into me, you know, yeah, they backed into my car last time.

So this just finished the job. Really.

So I was very annoyed. The guy wasn't even pissed off

at me because he had a tow bar. So he had zero damage on his

car. And he's like, who?

He didn't even take details. He's like, I've got to do.

So you, you figured yourself out.

And I was like, well, that's fine.

I just had the I just bent my plate back and I was like, Yep, I'm off. So should I just drive home and

end up like? Beckham just keep driving.

Like you can't even tell. Like I, I go home and and

stuff's like you can't even tell them.

Like, yeah, I know you can't. It's just, it's just, it's just

frustrating like that people's inconsiderateness and stupidity.

Like she went through the red when it was like probably red for three seconds, you know, like it was, it was nuts.

Like I've never seen anything like as you just just suddenly driving straight through. Lucky I was paying attention and

I like quite literally my foot was coming off the clutch, the cast up to roll and then bang and I was like oh crap, break clutch again and it. Was just.

That was it. I just quite literally rolled

into me. He's like, I felt the smallest

little and then he took off in a massive plume of of oil, blue, blue smoke from his from his valves to more seals, which was which was quite funny to watch. I was like, well, if there's

anything. We we know people who can help

him with that. Well, if.

There's anything to be learned from this, from this experience is that, you know, as much as I hit my laser, it'll keep going.

Whereas the the valve symbol seals in the next one, which is a lot newer car won't. So I was, I was, yeah.

I was chuckling to myself as he was dropping off and quite literally a plume of smoke, like it was just, it was nuts.

And then and then it just faded away as he, as he, as you know, that's. Not all BMWs.

Though my 60s Beautiful. Yeah, I know.

You've got a Unicorn, booby. You've got a.

It's normally the. Fours that do the valve stem

seals, it's the, it's that 320 I 318I, you know, it's that motor.

Yeah, 100. Percent.

And the V eights, the four point eights.

Yeah. Some of them do, but more often

than not if I'm behind one that does that, it's that 4 cylinder petrol from that era. You know like O 5 to 2010 ish

era actually. Speaking of that, the the only

thing I can think of that I've been behind that smokes like a freight train is a crepteaser a. Few of them, yeah.

Like, it's the only thing I can think of where I can say, OK, here it's smoking. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's that's in the name. What's?

Tonight's topic, Matthew. Well, Alan didn't have a card at

it, so hey Alan. No, I'm getting there.

I'm getting there. Come on.

Give us. Give us a chance.

All right, Alan, speak. Forever hold your.

Peace. All right, so I did a fill up in

the Honda Jazz and from the fill up I measured a little over 7 litres per hundred KS pretty. Good.

And that is driving to work in bumper to bumper traffic with the AC on. That's pretty.

Good. You can't argue with that jazz.

Alan. I'm I'm a little iffy on the the

AC of it. I can't tell if it's just

because it's, you know, like a bottle of milk size engine and that's why the AC is not exactly great compared to, you know, the old D Max or something or if it maybe needs a re gas.

So I might get there's a gentleman.

Philtre. In it that car.

It. Might I might just.

Try to change. That I don't know if I've

mentioned. This on the podcast before, but

my Pajero icon was always cold, but it just had no force.

You had to really turn to get force coming out of it.

And I was on the forum one night and I came across a post where some guys like, oh, check your cabin philtre because if it's poor flow, it's usually that's clogged up.

I pulled out the cabin philtre behind the glove box, which is really easy to do. It's like 2 Phillips head

screws. That thing had never been

changed, ever. It had a date.

On it from 2010 when the car was built and it brown with dust and grot and leaves and whatever. I went straight to Mitsubishi

that day. I bought a brand new one for

$80.00. I probably could go on online a

lot cheaper. I just want it done.

I put it in, Oh my God. It's still cold but I can have

the fan on #1 now and it just makes the cabin icy.

I don't even have to turn it anywhere so.

I. Think a lot of cars if you don't

know it's got a cabin philtre or some mechanic has been lazy and never changed it so well they don't know, just check that.

Yeah, might, might do a couple of troubleshooting things.

Have one, but it's worth just checking that first up.

Yeah. So if it is a situation where it

needs a bit of a Regas, that's not the worst thing in the world. I think we've got a guy local to

us that has the equipment. He is qualified.

He's not just, you know, randos. We can't do that in Australia

unfortunately, but he comes like after hours.

It's like a side gig from I think he charges about 120 just to re gas in your driveway. The.

Gassing. Is relatively easy.

If it's got a slow leak or something, that's when they put the dye in and you've got a. Yeah, if you like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's where people usually

go. It gets a little bit hard, you

know, and gets more expensive. That's going fine.

I'll. Just anyway, I drove the D Max

all the way to Bairnsdale on Sunday and back for AI keep following a bar mitzvah. It was a baptism.

But yeah, all all these Abrahamic religions are the same to many such you know, that's the price of being a heathen, I guess. And you know, that was as as you

would expect with the ride. I problem I kind of seem to run

into is because a lot of the new cars have like cruise control and then speed limit mode. I quite like using speed limit

mode on the work cars so that I I can modulate the throttle according to how I see the traffic moving in front of me, but I'm never at risk of speeding.

I found the D Max. It was still going above what I

had kind of set it to and I may have copped us being fine in Bairnsdale. We'll see we'll see if those

cameras are operational or not. And this is something I can't, I

can't even punt onto my mum because if they dig deeper into it, they'll realise she wasn't in the country during speed find time. So we'll, we'll cross that

bridge when we get to it. I think I encountered about 3

mobile speed cameras. And then there was obviously

the, the fixed ones that was on the entire route.

So, you know, it's probably enough that a person can lose their licence in one trip. Oh, I got to make that to add A

to a story like that. I got to find in the mail and he

but he was about to lose. He was, he would have lost his

licence. So he's like, no, it wasn't me.

It was the missus driving, you know, can I, can I put it in her name? And they responded with no.

And he's like, was like, why not?

And all I did was just send a picture and it was of him driving the car. That was that was just a

picture. That's how they responded with

the message. You're like, how do you not

know? That's my missus, you know.

So he ended up losing his licence, but anyway.

Maybe. I identify as my missus.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. Hey, Ben.

I think there's a, a radio prank call about that once where they claim to have a photo of the driver and they were wearing an address because this gentleman had taken the hit on for his missus. And they're like, well, look, we

think it's your missus, but you know, if you're a cross dresser, that's OK. You know, you just have to let

us know that you're a cross dresser.

And this man, you know, he was so adamant that he wasn't a cross dresser that he said that he was when Mrs I lied, you know, he was ready to just throw that poor woman, you know, under the bus completely the moment they mentioned that he might be a cross dresser. So.

But from what I've searched, those cameras aren't operational yet, so I may have gotten in the clear.

Otherwise I think I'll be done for about 3 days, which isn't the worst thing in the world, yeah.

You'll be right. Yeah.

And the famous words of every Australian.

She'll be right. That's your update.

Tell him yeah. That's all my updates onto the

topics. Tonight I wanted to talk.

Well, Edward actually mentioned one of these a second a couple seconds ago. But tonight I want to talk about

forums. Internet forums, Car forums.

Where? Have they all gone like they

have? You're there Well.

Yeah, but like, they're not active anymore.

So like, you know, like like I remember Skylands Australia used to be super active, you know, fordlaser.com man now, but that

was the most active site ever. You know, there was some real

cool active year forum sites that were, you know, really good, plenty of information and the information is still on there for a lot of them, but like nobody's on there anymore.

Why do you think they're all gone?

Do you think that's because of the ease of access on Facebook and and is that the future of automotive forums, you know, social media? So wanted to get your opinion

gentlemen, where you think the forums have gone and why you think they've gone? You know what's funny?

Originally I would have said like, oh, you know, all the questions have been answered. They're already on there on the

forum, so you can find it and search it that way.

But. How?

Wrong Can I be when you have a look on Facebook of some of the questions people are asking when it's been answered so many God damn times. Sometimes.

It's hard to find, you know, like it's easier just to ask it again than it is to to, you know, troll through and try and find a thread that mentions it. And also people are very lazy

and they, I think you get a. Faster response on on Facebook,

in Facebook groups. But that's essentially the same

thing. Like a Facebook group is

basically a forum. It's the same, yeah, end result.

Like I'm, I follow a couple, like the Pajero one, I loosely follow and I just glance at it and I like, I really don't contribute, but it's just, you know, that's where I found out about that cabin Philtre thing. And you know, there's always

some useful info on there. But yeah, every now and again,

well, not every now and again, every day almost, there's someone going. I just.

Bought the Pajero. I want to know one of the

maintenance items I should attend to and you just say, oh.

Mate just do your own homework, read read the other posts but also you get this I'm thinking. Of filling my Pajero.

What do you got to think it's worth?

My my favourite 1 don't. Ask the board members.

What it's worth, they're the worst people because they don't want to pay $5 for it. But my my favourite 1 though out

of like every single group that I'm a part of, it's always the same question. Well, I just bought the car,

what will do I put in it? Bold and brown one.

Yeah. On the M3 groups, it happens all

the time and I love it because I just sit there and wait.

And then you just say olive oil, extra virgin olive oil, vegetable oil. Olay it's.

I find it, I find it really hard because like I used to love the forums, like I used to live for the forums when I was, when I was first like, you know, 16/17/18.

Yeah, same 19. 20 Really even the forms were like alive, like

the you know, you know, like everyone was on like every night and you would see, you know, on their icons who was active and, and you'd put, you'd put a response, you'd put a question or you'd put a response and you know, they're going to just chime in and have their two cents.

But I also found forms very, very welcoming and like, and you know, there was barely any, you know, idiot, I'm going to close my car. Idiots on there.

Like they were always genuine, like questions.

And, and even if you were kind of a newbie, you were like, hey, like the people come across, Hey, you know, honest, honest about, Hey, new here, you know, this is my car, you know, da, da, da. Any any ideas?

And then people be like, Yep, do this or, or go to this thread And that actually put the link of the, of the thread where they'd they'd, they'd help you with that.

I think it changed especially with the Facebook era to people like, well, what's the point of having these forums and paying for forum when you got Facebook, which is a free forum, you know, essentially because a lot of forms, you have to pay for a lot of forms. You're they're, they're

expensive to run, they're expensive to moderate, they're expensive to maintain. I think that's why that's why a

lot of them, a lot of them are winning out.

And, and but like, again, some of this, the issue with Facebook, some of the pages are just cesspools of just horridness. Like like, yeah.

It's it's very hard to get proper information out of the groups. A lot of them is just, I don't

know of any other way to say it, but just smart asses like, you know, it's you should know and do this.

And it's that. And yeah, no one can ever give a

straight answer to help a person out.

Yeah. They're not really moderated

very well, no. You say whatever you want.

But again, it's Facebook like, you know who's gonna moderate it? You know what I mean?

So it's, I find that I find that really like a like kind of like a catch 22. But like, the good groups, and

there are some of you, yeah, any, sorry, I should say that actually do the moderation properly because they'll have a large number of moderators and they won't be on power trips.

Because that's the other thing. When you get moderators on power

trips and they will take care of the actual group, make sure people are keeping the discussion to what's supposed to be the person that's advertising some kind of Chinese spyware is kicked out immediately, that sort of thing, you know?

But with the forums, it was a lot more stringent in that aspect. Like, you'd have to register,

account, register, email, that sort of stuff.

And you know, like this layout of the forum is still unbeatable. If you're looking for a specific

like Ford forum that I'm still a part of, I'm pretty sure they sent me an email on my book. They they're one of the few

people that wish me happy birthday.

You know, I appreciate that, you know, but it's so easy to be like, all right, so you can go general discussions, specifically Babs, you can specifically talk about FGS, AUS, that sort of thing. Like you've got your certain

section, then you can look into those.

There's like a section for problems and troubleshooting.

You can basically kind of go down the rabbit hole and really pinpoint a problem because like I said, if you've got this problem, most likely somebody else has had the same problem.

Yeah, it's a. Lot more intuitive on a forum to

find the very same problem you're suffering and kind of finding a solution for searching on a Facebook group is just.

It's dumb, no? It's like.

You're very lucky if you get the actual answer you want or if you you're brave enough to post the question, you'll get half the people ridiculing you for, you know, not knowing what's going on, half the people ridiculing you for the particular item you have in question. Then you get experts in a group

that's for enthusiasts, you know, just being Dick heads.

I'm quite sad that forums have kind of gone that way.

Like I think part of it, the push has also been just to YouTube where it's not exactly a forum, but a lot of people just do a video on, Hey, if you got, you know, ABA or ABF Falcon E gas and it's running rough. Check, you know, your piece of

eval your oxygen sensor. Those are the two main culprits.

And then you'll maybe they'll diagnose further into a stepper motor or a perished little valve that does vacuum that sort of stuff. So no valve tube.

I'm thinking back to my E gas tanks, but a lot of those were.

Originally. We liked the E gas, yeah.

A lot of those were originally just things in the forum that, you know, you'd have somebody who owned, you know, 2 taxis just knew what they were doing because they do all the maintenance themselves. So it's definitely a loss and I

don't think Facebook can can match it.

No, I I completely agree. I said I was always big on the

forums years ago. I was big on a steamer GT big

on, you know, Ford laser.com makes the level all all those

what's your? Username at on Ford laser.com

tough. SR2.

R. 2 is in TOUGH no? TUFF.

So I was going to. Say it was a.

TUFF. SR2SR. 2.

That's me. That was that was his main.

His ultra calendar used to troll people and up for his own post was big Dong 69 or something. We're going to, I'm going to ask

you guys your, your, your names in a minute, but we'll come back to that. But like, I remember I went on

to, to Facebook and you know what, when I, when I got my, you know, my typhoon and then I, I joined the BABF Facebook page.

My God, that was the biggest trial page I've ever seen.

There was Smithy, there was Tommy Slavini stockies, there was all there was, it was just like they become memes now.

So like, so like like like these people are like on other like you see them, you see them post on other people on the other, like, you know, pages for different cars or, you know, full boost.com and people still remember from like seven or

eight years ago. Smithy, please, you know, like,

oh, you know, shut up Smithy, you got no idea.

You know, it's, it's and it, and it made like asking just a simple question, like you felt like you you couldn't belong there, which, you know, I guess for a troll account, it was pretty fun. But you know, it kind of ruined

for a lot for a lot of people because like a lot of genuine people were like, oh, you know, you guys have got BAS and stuff.

Can you help me with this? And then they just get

destroyed. No, it's change a blink of

fluid. Do this, do that, you know, the

usual digital troll responses. So it made a lot of people not

really like them and but that's what kind of killed the forum.

So I, I don't, yeah, I don't really know.

I, I always preferred the forum aspect and I still use forums to this day. Like I like if I, if I'm, you

know, got an issue with a car or if a friend of mine's got, oh, you know, my cars are running right.

And I'll, I'll put in like, you know, Nissan S13, you know, running, running bad SR20. And usually the, the things that

come up are like, you know, Nissans and stuff, all, all these different websites and you click on them and they're like, this is what your car's doing. Yeah, it is, it could be this

could be that, could be this. And you know, and it's, it gives

you options and it gives you a good, a good place to start.

Quite often a lot of the moderators on the forms were quite mechanically modern or mechanics themselves.

So you're always 90% eighty to 90% of time got really good responses, whereas you get nowhere near that on a Facebook group and. If you put aside the troll posts

or troll responses, it's like, oh, well, that's just some decades in the in the group. You always have to understand

that there are some people in here that are complete novices.

Like my experience is more from the detailing group and you know, they call themselves enthusiasts, you know, but it's predominantly now full of just a bunch of people that do it professionally that then rag on like people doing simpler stuff, which I don't really understand, like you're supposed to be for enthusiasts article. So I might start my own group.

Damn it, now with blackjack hookers that's a line for Futurama, so don't, don't pan me, but like one of the guys that comments on every single post when somebody asks for a solution to something, he comments thinness, like paint thinness and. Obviously it's a meme.

Now, at this point in the group, and we all have a laugh, but there is a chance that somebody new will ask a question about like how to get rid of something or how to clean something and he's going to say paint thinness.

And they will take him at face value and they're going to do it and they're going to, you know. Damage their.

Damage their pain you. You like, oh, people are dumb.

Like like drink, was it hand sanitizer?

And people, people, people died. People.

Took the horse dewormer and you know, got sick and stuff like.

Yeah, it's Grouse. Look, you.

Know there is that people. Are if you're an adult, you're

probably responsible for your own health and well being, but in a group where somebody's asking for help and you've whether it's a joke or not, really just giving them very poorly, you know, thought out advice like do you not feel bad at all about that? Like that that's it's like

Facebook's already cessful. Just I don't know if.

Someone is stupid enough to drink hand sanitizer and pass away because of it. I don't feel bad at that point.

Then common sense. It's if someone's gonna be

stupid enough to go use paint thinners on their car to clean it. Common sense.

Yeah, not so much. I mean, you've got to start

somewhere. Yeah, No.

I, I, I get that like you're going to start somewhere, but to me it's just common sense. You're trying to clean and also

like. Let's just say you've had.

The good. Fortune of having, you know, a,

a person in your life, for example, maybe your dad who's kind of taking you, taking you on a car journey in your youth and that sort of thing. We've learned a few things.

Some people don't have either a parent that's stayed into cars or taking care of that sort of thing or an older sibling.

And they are like the first person in the household that's going to be actually, you know, maintaining some pain that's not constrained. That's.

Me good. Ideally, ideally someone like

young Ed who's still pretty young these days, but younger Ed would would be getting sage advice that's like, you know, hey, we know you're new to this, but don't worry, it's you know, there's these solutions out here.

Be careful these pitfalls rather than, you know, it's like, are you guys, I'm having this issue with their car, my car and they're like, are you just put some, you know, car wash into your oil drain or oil pan and it'll fix it like something like that. Yeah, but these days, like going

with the whole forum things, you've also got YouTube.

Yeah. Yeah, YouTube.

I'm a big supporter of YouTube. YouTube, I watch so much more,

yeah. And that helps me out more than

the forums, more than Facebook, because it's people who have had the issue that are putting it up there so that you can really see a way around it. Yeah.

I think forums are great for die not diagnosing things and then you've been because videos. Where it's at for the actual?

Yeah, well, I. Mean Scott, you follow that you

follow that video for your for your 31 yeah it's.

Fantastic. And there's, there's a couple up

there for the 30 ones with the manual swapping.

And I, I used two. There was one, the main one that

I used the whole time. And then there was a second one

with a guy to get that stupid spigot Bush out.

He did a different method to get it out.

And that's what I ended up using to pick up on the R31 forum has been an absolute blessing with helping me out and understanding bits and pieces that I need to get.

Or if I got any dramas here, what did they do in the past and some of these posts and I'm reading it, you know, like 10 years old and it's still so valid today.

It. Was the same with me when it

came to doing the Vanos. Everyone, everybody on the

groups and everybody, you know, everyone's saying, well, I don't touch it, don't touch it. You need to be a mechanic to

touch it, you know, don't do it. And then you go look at the

videos and how to do it and OK, it takes, it took us a whole day, us taking our time. But guess what?

It was done. It's not that you need a piece

of paper to say that you're a mechanic.

You just got to have, like I was saying before, that little bit of common sense while you're doing the work, which is why I got back to what I was saying before.

If you're silly enough to follow the stupid things that people say without doing that little bit more research, then it's on you. But if you're smart enough to

turn around and go, this doesn't sound right, and then jumping on the rest of the forums, jumping on the YouTube and all that kind of stuff and seeing a proper way on how to do it, Yeah, you know, it's, I think that's where you start to learn more.

Well, I get what you're saying, yeah.

I think that connects with what you learn from research.

Don't get your research. Yeah, source.

No. Just research.

From multiple, multiple sources, yeah.

Well. That's the one.

Person. And and that's The thing is

like, I'll go back to the M3 again because that's the car that I researched the most. But when I was looking into

doing the manual swap, everything that I looked into was you have to pull the box out, you have to pull the bell housing off and you have to get a spring put in the box itself where the bell housing is so that it centres the the shifter again. And.

For ages. I'm like you, you can't that

that can't be the only way to do it.

It doesn't sound right. Ended up being the more research

I did, I found that there's actually a company in the UK which already does the centred shifters.

So you don't have to pull anything out of the box.

It's as simple as the Sprint is in the actual shifter assembly itself and that's. I only bring that up because to

me it was more the fact of all that research that you do.

You don't just listen to that one source.

You go around and you try to find every single little bit of information, and then that broadens your horizon to what you can do and what you can't do.

Yeah, no, you're, you're all making good points here.

Yeah. I, I still, I still use a lot

of, I still use a lot of foreign pages.

Like I, I refer to them all the time just because they want to.

Disappear, are you? Still up SR2.

I am still tough. SR2, Yeah.

That's on every forum page these.

Days I had joined the. Ford 1 and like squat troll you

on it, Yeah. Please do, Please do tough SR2

you're I'll be. I'll be big LXI.

Yeah, that. That that would be funny 100.

Percent. Maddie, you were one of those

guys in the forums going, I've got a tough SR2.

It's 600 kilowatts at the wheel. Swear to God.

Swear to God. What kind of?

Amps do I need for my 12 inch subwoof?

You need. 16 Batteries swear to God 16.

AA batteries. No, I, you know, I still think

there's a place for them. I mean, if you look at, I'm just

going to talk about now, like where, where we're heading with them, things like Whirlpool and Reddit, like they're forums in themselves, right? Yeah.

And and you know, they're, they're a bit more.

How would you explain it? Interesting.

They they, they kind of cover all different topics, but like your reddits and stuff like you still get your responses.

I know a lot of people work on there and I think they kind of find it as like a nice point of difference to your, your TikTok, your Facebook, your Insta, your stuff like that, because it's you still, you're still actually communicating with real people and not not that aren't taking the piss 90% of the time.

So I still think there is a place for forums and I'd like to see them really make a resurgence.

But again, you know, time money is is is is a big thing.

Do you guys think that forums are pretty much on their way out and do you think there is? And if not, what's going to

bring the forum back? That's my last question for the

evening, I think. They're probably like, like

Adrian said, they're probably only less relevant because you know, things like YouTube, you can, you can consume the information you want without engaging in the in the style of a forum, like some people, and I'm probably one of them.

If I want to know how to do something in a car, I I do just like you guys go straight to YouTube.

Chances are there's a video on how to change the oil philtre on your Mercedes 190 diesel. Oh yeah, there it is.

And it can be from anywhere around the world.

You know, as long as it's the same motor, pretty much even the language doesn't really matter. As long as the guy's filming it

or whatever, the girl's filming it and I can go, ah, right, that's how to do that 'cause you.

Manage you might never bought it.

You change your philtre like. I got them outside this number

one, you know. If you've got like a network or

an IT like issue, the the the the likelihood that an Indian man has made a video on it. You know is.

Like 99% most of the time. But that that, you know, being

able to watch YouTube and just go, oh, bang, that explains it.

You don't have to interact and discuss with a forum or ask questions or wait for an answer. It's just therefore you want to

platter. I'm not so interested in making

friends online and having to be logged on for three nights in a row. You know you don't.

I think that came before YouTube maybe?

So it's. In a.

Sense it's a bit of a community and it's sort of nice and if you're really into something and you want to make friends through that yeah maybe it's a good thing still and it happens but I think it's more now just yeah just people just want clicks from that side and I just want the information from this side and you move on I. Think the easiest way to say

this is the forums themselves, that in forums are dying.

They will essentially like, I'm not going to say not exist, but no new information is going to come on to them many times soon.

And that's for the reason of the generation that we're getting into, which is short attention span.

Yeah, you're never going to have it where, you know, for instance, when the kids of today, you know, 1819 getting into cars that are going to be able to sift through all the pages on the forums trying to get that information.

They're going to jump straight on YouTube like we do now and go, OK, quick way to find out the issue.

It's this or it's that done simple.

Yeah. They're going to learn how to

diagnose in like a, what is it, 16 by 9 video that's got Subway Surfers at the bottom. We're like, if it's 15 seconds

long, where the guy was like this is this is how you do it quickly, quick. Yeah.

Like for more for Part 2. That's what I'm saying.

Like that's the way I can see it going.

It's just I don't think we're ever going to have it the way that it was where we like we do you have to go that sifting through everything and then it's yeah, we're we're back.

I'm. Going to say what I'm looking

forward to is now the rise of AI is AI, you know, giving answers to people. So when they Google the item,

like how do I fix this? And the AI answers completely

wrong because you know, it's, it's scraping information off the web. It's not necessarily picking up

the correct information, it's giving you a completely incorrect answer and people just go with it.

Yes. That's going to keep up and it's

going to get worse most likely just because people are so happy with the easy, you know, when Google constantly give you an answer and it's like, is that where's where's the sources on that? I think that's an issue, I

think. That's an issue already.

I'm like, like when you're typing a question to into Google, why is this? You know, why is my dog

scratching its neck all the time and it and it shows you like the like at the top of the bar comes like the AI generated version of of the response. And now I'm kind of I was like,

I'm not reading that. But now I'm kind of like, oh, I

want to see what it says and you know, it's it some of the things that I come up are like really weird.

So it'd be interesting to to see what what that holds.

I love the doctor. Google words.

I have a headache. You're going to die in 10 days

10. Days.

Yeah. What do you do?

Yeah. They're probably going to die.

I mean, they've slowed down so much.

They're. Not used to.

Chat or anything anymore. I've even seen some of the

groups on Facebook, you know, where they're connected with Facebook direct message group stuff.

Now they're pretty annoying really.

But I do hope they stay online because they still hold such relevance and purpose. I mean, I still feel even if

it's information from like 10:15 years ago, it still comes up like right on top when you Google it because you're asking that same thing that somebody posted like why is my engine I know making a ticking noise? If you type that exactly and

what exact car and everything, it's always the first ones at the top are the forums that are coming up Without that, it's yeah, it's just the perfect tool to use to diagnose things like a starting point. You got that perfect starting

point. And then you can lead into

YouTube videos you can find because unfortunately most of the photos are gone because we use photo bucket back then.

That's right. So there's no more pictures

anymore, but. That is so frustrating.

Yeah. But yeah, it's kind of sad

because you there was so much information and there was a lot of businesses that would jump onto the forums and group buys for parts and things like that. They were the best, weren't

they? Yeah, there's some good group

buys that would come up to get things cheaper and stuff, but well, they were the days. It's what we say now if.

We get 200 people who all want a new windscreen.

They're gonna make a batch of windscreens and they're $50 each. Yeah, there's some merit in

that. There is.

Some merit in that, absolutely. Completely agree, especially.

For the ones that organised it all right.

Before we enter the quiz, what were some of your your names for your your, your forums? So you need to mention the forum

and mention the name it was on. What?

I'm still I think it's the only one I was ever on was the I know there's two, the Renault 1, the Aussie frogs, yeah, which I'm still technically on. I look at it very rarely, but I

was the amazing username of Ed BI mean, you know, that's an all nighter coming up with that. And the other one was I went on

the vintage caravan forum when I was getting my grandparents old caravan. So resurrecting that, but I

haven't been on that for a long time.

But I think my name on that was Skyline, because my caravan is a Skyline, yeah. Very nice.

Yeah, nice. I like it, Skullen.

Mate, I've even had, I towed it once to Phillip Island, these guys are playing next to me and they would be into cars and I'm like, oh Skyline. Check it and I'm like it's.

It's these egg friggin caravan. It's nothing.

Nothing to do with the. Vehicular skyline.

Can Scotty's skyline tow your skyline?

Yeah. Yeah.

You could have you a toe bar Scotty it.

Doesn't have toe bar. You can fix.

That that's all right. That'll just be another two

years of work. So we'll have, yeah.

Yeah, toeing a skyline pictured with the backdrop of the skyline, the. Skyline pretty cool that's.

Where it's at that is good well. My.

Grandpa called Skyline. My.

Grandfather the the last. Car he towed that caravan with

was a 240K, which I think in the Japanese market is the Skyline, yeah. So it kind of fitted there.

He's. It was.

It was an ideas man visionary. Skyline on skyline.

Yeah, Scotty. Doe your name and forum?

Forum was Skies Australia where I started.

Went through two names because you could you could change your name after a bit. It started as just as basic as

my old email address [email protected].

So that one was Scoot Underscore 014.

That's how. That one started because I

wasn't very, I was only just saying to look into them.

So I haven't got 1 yet. But then I changed, changed it

to Scotty Skyline. Yeah, Scotty.

Skyline. I like that.

Very nice. Hey, there's others.

That could be the porn name as well.

Hi. I'm Scotty.

Skyline that's. Pretty good.

Oh. Scotty oh Scotty skyline.

You know who? It is.

It's Scotty Skyline. Followed up by top SR2.

I'm going to tag. In my friend tough SR2.

Ed B. Nerdy, Ed B.

The Glasses. Just imagine Maddie just rocks

up and he's just like my names. SR2.

Tough. SR2.

I did AI did a was it a test for what's your pawns, the name and it's it's like what was the 1st St you lived on and what was the what? Was.

The first pet, yeah. And it was like my first pet was

like it was, it was a rabbit called Albert because Albert Eisler because he was really smart.

So we called him Albert. And then it was and then I lived

on Cumberland Rd. So it was Albert Cumberland.

So that's. Mine.

Was we had a cat when I was really little called Orange Billy. Like he had a hyphenated name.

And my 1st St. I lived on was Mel Bray, so I

was Orange Billy. Mel Bray it was.

Nice, I like that one. What's?

Yours, Scotty I. Only had girl dogs so yeah.

But you can. Have a girl porn name that's all

right. It would be Lucy Hill.

Lucy Hill. How?

Very sounds. Like a what about if?

He was a dog and I lived on Hill St.

We. We only had a a female dogs for

a while and it was it would be Cindy Gish Cindy.

Gish. That's good.

That is good. What about you?

A great name. Great.

Now like. Gish caught Maddie.

Of Gish. Caught.

Wow, just. Just keep the dump button ready.

So. One of our dogs, this was the

old country, so it's the old. Country, yes.

And my I didn't have a home street in the old country, so I'll count a different St later on because I lived in a village and we didn't know exactly have street names.

My dog's name was Fanny. It's.

Already we look a bit rough. And.

What was the 1st St? The first.

Street I remember living on was Humber.

Humber Crescent. Fanny, Yeah.

Yeah, yours and. Adrian's take the cake.

Brilliant. English.

And Fanny Humber. Sounds so British when you say

it like that too. That's.

Funny. That's brilliant.

We're going to get to the end of these, so we need to find out where what your forum names were before we before we get to the quiz. Adrian, what was yours?

All right, so like, keep me up first the the first forum I ever joined, it was the last one I ever joined was the Magna one.

Yep, it was Australian, Australian Magnus or something like that. It was AME if I remember

correctly. And that guy actually no longer

does it anymore. He's in gaol.

He had promised to build fences for people, take their money and never do the job. It was on the news anyway, and

at that time is when I had my good old Verada and the many stages that were that wonderful thing went through.

And the one distinct thing with that car had and everybody loved it was the fact that I had a 33 JDR front bar on it.

So I'm like what? I don't know what name to do.

Like you're thinking about it and then I don't know where it's just like RAD 33 Rada that's. Cool.

Rad. Rada.

I had 33 round and I'm like yeah, good enough.

Yeah, that's that's not about what?

I like that one, Alan. Mine was pretty fasting if I'm

honest. I think my forward forum's name

was just Alan. It's nice and easy, you know,

it's who I am. And then there was, I think

earlier on there might have been a couple other forms where it's like this is the teenage angsty is where like you put like the from the Final Fantasy days, like XX Sephiroth.

So mine was like XX album XX because album was already taken.

You're like. You're like who's?

That that singer like Charlie XXX.

Whatever. You're like that, he.

Is yeah, a friend of the other is cool somewhere.

I'd be uncooler, but you know, it's only my mom.

I think even less questionable. Let's.

Get into the car quiz. So Scotty's our quiz master this

evening. Scotty Doe, the floor is yours,

you may take it away. Scotty.

We've got everything put up. Yep.

Keeping score. All good, all ready to go.

It's. A bit of a mix of questions.

I even went and looked at some old, watched some old ads.

So hopefully you've seen some old car ads to help answer some of these questions questions. Matt is going to win.

Yeah, he will. Yeah.

Probably, yeah. That's pretty much what he does

every day. What old car?

Question number one, what is BMW said that he's here to stay.

Matthew, Matthew, they said. It was AV 8 recently, didn't

they? Yeah, yeah, they're keeping AV

8. They ain't getting rid of it and

they're not doing what Mercedes is.

What they said they specific because they were never very good. They always need work, yeah.

OK, these take the. 6. Correct.

I agree these. Couple of questions now are like

my old cryptic car quiz ones. OK, I like these.

All right, so the. First one, first one for

question #2 is a Mitsubishi migrant or castaway?

Alan? Alan, an Outlander, Yeah,

Outlander. Oh.

Good one, Alan. Yeah.

Good. Nice.

Nice. Yeah, very nice #3 and Nissan

guard Matthew. Yeah, God, yeah, I.

Want it, Nissan? Gazelle.

No, Ed, Mr Ed, Patrol, patrol. All right.

Last one of these is a Mitsubishi Growth or expansion.

Ed. Ed.

Grandis. Yeah, it's a tricky 1.

This one, but I mean it came straight from Thesaurus.

From Webster's Thesaurus. What?

Was it again? No, you got.

To trust with that, yeah, Mitsubishi or expansion.

Adrian. Yes, Adrian.

What's the other stupid Mitsubishi van?

The four wheel drive 10? God, I can't think of the name

of it right now. I'll give.

You a hint, Adrian. It starts with D.

I keep thinking of Dualis. All right, That's not it.

That's not it. That's.

It. Delica Jesus Christ.

No, damn it, I want to. Say Mitsubishi Gallant?

No, not a good idea, Alan. It's up to you.

So could you, could you describe it again, please?

Yeah, Mitsubishi Growth or a Mitsubishi Expansion.

Mitsubishi Grandis. Sorry, sorry sorry.

Grocery expansion. I got nothing.

I'm going to say the one that would give it away pretty quickly. So everyone's in the game again.

So get rid. Montero, Mitsubishi Darwinism,

Alam Alam Evolution. Oh, sorry.

I thought that was me. I was going to say, well, we

should thank you, I thought. I thought.

I knew Alan was going to say I'd give it to him, yeah.

Yeah, point to Alan all right now.

We're going to move into some ads.

Cool question #5 there is an old Holden ad where they mention what Australians like and turn it into a little song.

Starts with Australians like football.

Blank blank Holden cars. Matthew.

Matthew. I'm just, I think I know it.

I'm playing the song in my ad. Would you like Alan Ball?

Yeah. Football, meat pies, Kangaroos

and holding cars. Yeah.

Yes, meat pies and meat. Pies.

That's all I was going to say, yeah.

Yeah. You got that one, I.

Had to sing the song in my head. I'm like hang on, I know this.

It's it's football, big pies, Kangaroos and holding cars.

Geez. I just noticed the next few are

actually Fords. Sorry.

Guys, I just. Noticed it now sweating or

you're colluding or anything. It's definitely.

Winning now just. Just.

Just a coincidence. So.

So how much did you pay your Scotty?

How much, huh? Yeah.

How's it been? Yeah.

Just more. Than paychecks go.

Just remember that more than. You could bribe me with.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's got a tough Sr too,

That's correct. Yeah, question 6.

The Ford Fairlane gear came out with an ad in the 90s where they said they are world class in every area except what?

Matthew. Ed.

Matthew. Price.

Yes, price. Well, I was gonna guess it was

Price I. Wish they were right but there

was a complete it. It wasn't really important.

Plus in terms of. Everything else.

At one point Ford Australia had a slogan where Blank with you, Matthew. Ford.

I just said Ford. Go Ed.

I. Think it's we're moving with

you. Yes, it was.

It is. I think it was in the 80s, yeah.

Our, our XF had that sticker on it.

We're yeah. We're moving, Yeah.

They used to have before that on the on the keys.

They still printed for a long time.

Ford, you know, family of fine cars that was printed on the key. My Typhoon's got one of those.

That's his glove box key. Yeah, yeah.

They kept it for a long time. That that design of key.

This is a final Ford question and it comes with a bonus question and then a couple other.

Oh, OK, with my we'll forget the first question.

Question Question 8A new Ford Falcon came out and the ad they used, was it in a block of ice that melted?

What model was it Ed, You heard Ed first.

It's. Definitely Matt I.

Think the block of ice might have been the EA.

Falcon, I like you. No.

XDXD it. Was the XD the?

The EA had came out of the water.

The. Melted ice.

That's what I was meaning. Bonus.

Maybe it identified as ice? Maybe bonus question, what

famous bit of music did they use?

I don't know the name of the song, but I know how it goes.

It's a bit of. Music.

Is it? A classical piece.

Do you want to sing it, Matthew? Yeah, OK.

Matthew, I'll. Name it if you sing it I.

Didn't. Know the song, please.

Don't quit your day job, God. Is that my no?

I. Always thought that was right, I

can't remember it now. It's 2001, a space.

It's not a sea. I knew it.

I could I could tell it from. That he's terrible singing.

But I was like, you know what lady?

I made out the song. So who is the point?

Does Alan get the point there because he named it?

Nah. Yeah, give it to Alan.

Alan got the point. Thank you.

Thank you, Scotty. It was a bit.

Tricky to kind of know the name of that one.

So yeah, I thought, you know what, it can be a bonus question, yeah. It's a It's a good good bonus

question all. Right, so this.

Is some some quotes in that through this ad you're going to tell me where is it coming from? Manufacturer who gives you a

gutsy 2 tonne Ute with two wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?

Who's got the power and the four wheel drive to get you to where the surf's up? Who tonne you?

That's quite a big. Toe.

Tonnage. Yeah.

To where the surfs up who's. Got the power and the full drive

to get you to where the surfs up.

Alex. Ed, I was going to say, is it a

Holden Rodeo? No.

Don't have to be specific with the model.

Oh, just a manufacturer. Manufacturer.

So it's. Not Holden.

And it's not Toyota. Who?

Daihatsu, that's who. You got it.

Nope. It's actually, it's actually

Lada I'm. Just trying to think who this

who this is, No. Ed just got it.

Well, it did get it I. Just had to.

Daihatsu, that's who. But it can't be.

Yeah, you. Said tool drive and four drive.

You said two tonne Ute. Yeah, what did Dad already?

Have a guess? What are you?

Talking a truck. I.

Watched the end, that's exactly what he said.

Did he already have a? Guess no.

Do I had to he. Comes anywhere near 2 tonnes.

I don't think they made Daihatsu Utes.

And Ed had already guessed What are you?

Talking about, I'm calling shenanigans.

I'll I'll give you the point, Edward, I'll give you the probably nice he already. Guessed something.

Didn't he score? Check he did I think but I've

lost track M3 I'm. Calling 3.

Even I'm questioning my own point because Daihatsu do not make you. Do drive and.

Four drive that are two. Tonnes don't have to that's.

Not a thing that. Says.

Scott. Just can't believe everything

you read last. Thing you just got live.

I've watched it, I saw that and. Even.

What's an ad for What Car? It was just for Daihatsu.

They just kept saying Daihatsu. That's who is it like a?

High jet or something? Where did?

It come from I don't know. Can.

I just put two tonnes on. I wouldn't 2 tonnes on.

Anything on? Two tonnes, the things that you

know. What I'm saying is it's like a

car. I think that's the question.

I can tow 2 tonnes. Sorry, the high.

Secret car. The High.

Do I actually just do a wheel is everywhere?

No. Do I have to?

Tell him to actually. Actually, it's funny that you

say that. One of the guys at work has got

the Pajero IO and at work they managed to get a tow bar for 50 bucks like brand new from Heyman and Reese.

So they're like, screw it, they're chucking it on and I'm like, what are you going to tow with it?

And he's like, don't worry about that.

He's like, it only tows 1200 kilos, so he's going to get a big car trailer on the back of it and then he's like, I'm going to Chuck a different car on it and tow that and I'm like good.

Luck you get. One of.

The big car trailers. Oh, then.

My. Bad.

I heard it wrong, sorry. Adrian, sorry.

He says hafter. That's more like.

It Yeah. I called shenanigans because I

would have been thinking, yeah, I.

Demand the essential of the point.

No, I'm still getting it. Yeah.

Bullshit. No.

Because I wouldn't have thought Toyota, yeah.

Alan. Alan, we need everything.

I can get in this quiz. All right.

Adrian, because I'll give you .5 because Toyota owns the hatsu,

so there's .5 player. Yeah, there you go.

Do they? They do, yeah.

That's true. There's the ad if you want to

watch. It all right.

He says half tonne. The one I watched sounded like

he said you've done when I watched it.

Because we have a lot of questions.

I'm like are they allowed to line ads in that day or something? But there is a dude this the

surfing part is all legit. All right, Yeah.

I. Believe.

That. Last one last question, Question

10. Honda had a great ad for the

Honda Accord Euro. What's the name of the

contraption or machine for the ad?

No. There was a name for it.

I know the ad I know. The ad too, that was great.

Isn't. It nice when things just work.

Yeah, that, that's, that's the caption, that's.

The ad but the way. The thing moves and everything

for it alum. It's like a cog or something.

Yeah, it might be the cog. I think that might be right.

David would know. Yep, don't know they.

Had no idea maybe. My question is not worded

properly. No.

No, no, no. You've you've articulated it

well. I just wouldn't know the name.

Articulation. The the the claw, I don't know

the marble. World it just revised.

Me of Toy Story, the claw is. It like a domino thingy

situation I mean. That could be called one of

those. If it goes, what is?

It Scott, what is it? And does a whole bunch of stuff.

What's? The answer?

It's called a Rube Goldberg machine.

Oh my. God.

Goldberg. Well, we weren't getting

Goldberg. Goldberg.

Goldberg Machine. Older May Brown.

All right. Add up the scores please.

Now. Think so, yeah.

Scores. Are as follows.

Adrian .5 because I was being generous.

Edward and Allam on three and tonight's winner on a grand total of 4S E. Jack.

Shenanigans my. Probably on the.

Daihatsu one. My bad.

That's all. Right, it's OK, Has been.

Noticed Scotty has been 20 permanent record you.

Don't have to have a. Meeting about this.

Is, is, is that, is that Scotty's first and final?

Is is that? Yeah.

We're quite parents. Again, too many call your.

Parents. Then I did a.

Mistake. We were like Scott's behaviour

been terrible and they were like our son's a grown adult.

Why are you calling us? Who are you?

What are you doing here? Maddie will let me do the quiz

again because absolutely. I like when you win because I

correct. Yeah, absolutely.

I like it any. Way you can win, yeah.

Yeah, correct. Maddie wins David's quizzes, but

let me if. If Ed.

'S not around, especially. I didn't.

Do too well. No, I could, because ed'll ed'll

do. It's 1996.

Sorry, incorrect. And then Alan will drop in 97.

Yes, it is. That is correct.

General nothing. That's a podcast.

Thank you, Matthew. Let's go.

Around the screens, Edward Bunting, anything you you've got to to plug your podcast well. No.

I'm not plugging that anymore, we haven't done it in ages, but I'm going to plug my five series if anyone wants a lovely.

Smooth E. 60. Yes, get in touch with me

somehow. You'll see it on car sales.

It's the only one in Amethyst Grey.

Can you please? Send the link to the group chat,

That'll be nice, yeah. I can do that one less Scotty.

Doughy golf Tip of the week. Golf tip of the week.

Look, if you want to play really well like John Daly, then all you need to do is have a smoke after every shot.

Yeah, that's what he does. You know, it's been known that

when he one one of the Masters, he was actually drunk on the last hole. You know, one round he went

through 18 cans of Diet Coke because he hates water.

So. What a great guy.

Yeah, And what was it it? Was like about 8 on.

No, it was more than that. Packets of peanut M&M's too, in

a round. He's a he's a man of men of

great taste. Machines so just so you know

it's what you just it's what you got to do become a pro smoke at every hole I. Like it, Edward?

I'm looking at this five series. It's very clean.

It's a clean car. There's a couple of tiny little,

you know, car parky just where something's nicked it.

But it's a nice old girl. I mean, that's 20 years old now.

That design, It's so hard to imagine it's that old.

I think. I think it's aged better than

the ones that followed it, to be fair.

Yeah. I think so true.

And you know my friend Alex, he's been on a few times.

He's got the F10 so the the neck shape after this and he's driven mine. He said oh this chassis is

better like he reckons the the E60 as dynamically and you know the way it feels is nice than the F10.

Any cool? Five series.

I reckon well started. To look good now, yeah, people

didn't like it back then, but. No, it's really.

Grown into itself over the years, that kind of, I think it's. A good look, I think the E 6 is

a good looking carnea and I've set it for the last few years.

I think it's. Well put the word.

Out there, I'll buy. I'll buy you dinner if you find

me a buy for it. The last.

Night, it's the last good looking 5 Series in my eyes.

Adrian Di Giorgio, you got anything to plug?

We got a car show coming up on April 5th, very wholesalers, Thomas Town. Cool.

So anybody and everybody is invited.

We want to try get more of every car, not just muscle cars this time. Every car?

Yep. So anybody who's got a car, just

bring it down. Oh yeah.

Is there? Is there an event page for this

on Facebook? Everything.

There is, yes. All right.

Just give me a link. So I don't remember send us.

A link, yeah. I'll send the link through

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