Navigating the complexities of car ownership and flipping takes center stage as the crew discusses when it's time to walk away from a vehicle. With insights from various members, the episode covers personal experiences, the importance of mechanical reliability versus aesthetic appeal, and the nuances of buying and selling cars. The conversation also touches on the challenges of maintaining older vehicles and the market dynamics that influence car values. Listeners will find relatable anecdotes and practical advice on making informed decisions about their automotive investments.
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Welcome to Car Talking Shoes On out here in our 8.9 NW FM.
It's me, Matty J in the studio with Alan Deep Singh, Mr Chad, Mr Scotty Do Johnson online and Mr. David Prince online.
How are you guys? Hello.
Really good. Thank you.
Yeah, doing pretty good. Thank you very much.
Very good, Very good. Good to see you guys.
I think we'll just move over a little bit because I think it's a bit tight over this side. Good to see you guys.
Chad, welcome back. Good to see you man.
Thank you. Good to be back.
Good to see you. I know you've been.
I know you've been a busy man with work.
How's it all going on your end? Yeah, things are good just yeah,
it's been just been a couple of busy works.
So a few things on and, but always make time for this a.
100% man, 100% good to have you back.
Oh, I'm deep. How are you doing, man?
I have have a minor back injury, I think it's being 30 plus years old related rather than work related but I may have tomorrow off so that's that's a possible positive.
He's got the the back spasms is that is that.
Yeah, just a little bit of a. He's a working man now.
I tweaked it as as some of the people say, I bet it's the most.
Role What's the medical term for?
Medical term, yeah. I.
Mean well, Alan is a doctor, you know, at the end of the day.
So halfway, halfway, halfway. So, and that more.
Time is going for now. More.
Than 1/2. We've got online Mr. David
Prince. How are you, David?
I'm pretty good, thank you. Can't complain.
Can't complain and how's your week been?
It's been pretty good so far. It's nice to see some sun.
Yeah, it is. I don't want to be that old
person that always talks about the weather, but hell of science. Well, yeah, well, it is nice.
I was actually saying to one of the guys at work, well, it's actually nice to be to go on yard Judy, not freeze.
Yeah. So they they will laugh because
I've got this big racing jacket that's like it's, it's more, it's more of a skirt really, because it goes that far down in a dress. A Matrix jacket, quite
literally, quite literally. They call me Morpheus and stuff.
But I, yeah, I, yeah, it was nice not to wear that yesterday.
I was like, oh, it's actually nice.
I was sitting in the sun. I was like, this is quite this
is, this is quite nice. So getting in the vitamin D.
But Scotty, you've got that. You'll probably have a similar
feeling. How are you?
Mate, Yeah, not too bad. It's, you know, down my end, it
still gets a bit chilly up on a hill.
So, you know, I thought we'd continue.
If we're talking about weather, I may as well just continue on.
Today was pretty good, top of 12° today slight wind.
So we no longer have Scotty Dyer, we've got Jane Bunn on the, on the on the on the radio. Yeah, yeah, it was good.
It was, it was good to see the sun come out and you know, kids get to have a run around, use some of that energy of theirs.
No, whatever the timetable this time around, Scotty.
Thank goodness, even though there were days where they said there's going to be showers, but they stayed away.
The teaching gods were. Inside the.
Teaching gods were kind. Teaching gods were kind.
Well, good to see all you boys. Good to crack on.
Let's crack on with some cut updates.
Scotty Doe updates with you. Anything new?
Oh. I wish I did have something new
but I got nothing, you know, I really got to plough along I think now with the 31, got to get that transmission in there these. School holidays.
Man these school holidays. No, I'm in Japan.
Oh, that's right, you are too. Yeah.
Unless you just want to go around to my mum's place and do it for me, let me Japan. Wouldn't that be cool?
Get back and here's the keys. Yeah, Newcastle boy.
Like thanks, Dallas. And we like all busted knuckles
and stuff. And yeah, all the culls are
there. Covered in crap and be like here
you go Scotty. Here you go, Mum.
Will make your lunch and everything.
She's good. She's your mum.
Your mum's a lovely lady, so yeah.
Yeah, she'll make your lunch and everything, so if there's anything missing in your knee, just give us a buzz.
Where's the 10 mil That that that's a you problem. 10 mil.
Just use a nine mil and hammer it on.
She'll be right. No, it's good, mate.
It's good. Well, excited to see what's
what's what's gonna happen. So we're gonna have to do some
weekend work on that car, I think before before you leave.
Yeah, hopefully. I mean, it shouldn't be too bad
with the video that I've gotten now, there shouldn't be too much dramas. Touch wood.
He's an ID Contact the guy who did the video, see if he'll come round. Yeah, I'm not sure.
I know he's in Australia somewhere, but I'm not sure where. When he was working on it, I was
hoping I could see, you know, like the number plate to see where he's from, but it didn't have a number plate on the car.
So I was like, oh. I don't know where, Dang.
It looked like he knew what he was doing and he's done quite a few of them. So I was like, oh, he'd get it
done in a day I reckon. Yeah, probably would.
You'd know all the little secrets.
Yep, 100%. You'd know the insurance and
outs and, and OK, so, so you'll have, you'll have an issue with this. So what we'll do is we'll do it
this way, and we'd be one of those.
Yeah, and you'd have it done and then Brom, Brom.
Off you go. Yep, consider not paying for
Reggio and everything and it's it's chilling.
Yep. No, that's fair.
That's fair. At least it's cheap sort of form
of a a permit so. Yeah, yeah, it is definitely so.
Oh, I, I will be running an experiment at the moment if you've heard on the radio on that mobile have updated their fuels and things that's meant to be better kilometres with their fuels. I've been using mobile for since
I got the blade and everything and been using it before that in the Subaru. So since I've been using mobile,
I've already got an idea of fuel economy before you been.
Kidding. Yeah.
Yeah. So then with the new fuel that
starts, give me, you know, a few tanks and I'll find the average and see if there really is a difference or not.
So. In other words, he's got to put
his foot down everywhere and say mobile.
You're talking Porky back. No, I do it properly, I'll
average it out. That's why it's going to be
quite a few tanks because I've already got a rough idea on how much I get with what I've got at the moment, so it'll be good to see if there's any change at all.
Have they promised a particular percentage or figure not?
100% sure, but they did say it's meant to be better fuel economy or something so. Because even their standard
little spiel on the side at any 711 will be like, improves fuel mileage. It's like, what do you mean
improves fumalize? Like give us a figure you
weren't willing. You're bastards.
Yeah, yeah. So it's too.
Hard for them to give us a figure given that so many cards are cars are so different, you know, that kind of stuff.
They had it on all the petrol pumps and then they mentioned it on the radio that it's a new formula or something better, improved and everything. So that's what shot.
Find out if there really is a difference, or if it's pretty much the same bit of a gimmick. And if they've mentioned on the
radio it's gospel, so you know it's going to happen.
So that it's it's a. Radio is true.
I mean, look at us. We, we, we, we speak all the
truth. Yeah, we never lie.
We. Never lie.
Yep, exactly. But where?
Do you get mobile petrol now? 711-0711's mobile.
OK, OK. Yeah.
There are also a few weird in country areas and like NSW.
OK. Yeah.
I haven't seen a mobile station, mainly safer years.
Yeah, OK. The more you know.
Yeah. So I'll keep you updated going
along and see if there is a difference because usually the blade I get, I'd say if I run it fairly close to empty, about four 4450 out of a tank. OK, that's not too bad.
Well the tanks are huge on that either so.
Yeah, the tank's not overly big. The Subaru had a bigger tank.
Yeah. Do you run premium in it?
Yep. 98 yeah, not that I really need to.
I mean, it's just a two GR but you know, how do I'm a sucker?
David Prince updates with you. I've had a few different driving
experiences in the last week which is is always interesting.
I picked up the old, the lovely old half a million K accord from it's garaging facility on Saturday and gave that a run.
It hadn't been driven for oh, think about six weeks.
I think it'd been sitting under a cover in a, in a shed started first turn of the key ran like a dream.
So I had AI had to go out to head over from Dingley over to Lilydale to pick up a, a friend's car who's away at the moment. And I said I'd keep an eye on
the car and give it a bit of a clean while they were away and give it a run. That's a a Volvo V40 2014 Volvo
V40 which I think is basically focused underneath.
Isn't it the two litre just to a really loud podcast?
So sorry so you so you picked up the V40?
Picked up the V40, gave that a run that started first time too, so that's good. I think in the middle of winter,
sometimes you you've got to be. Yeah, I think that it's hard on
batteries. I think that, yeah, they do
degrade with the really cold weather, especially when they're not being used. So yeah, I've got that back at
my place. Monday I got to drive an NBNX 5.
That was pretty cool. Oh, do tell David.
Do tell. It's a.
Cracking little car. I really enjoyed it.
I've never driven an NB and I did a couple of little jobs, including a glove box reinstall on a on alum's old MX5I, tidied up the seats a bit and yeah, had a drive with this top down in the sun. It was really lovely little car.
It's Yeah, yeah, very cool. I was.
I was impressed and I loved that it felt like an NA but it that exhaust on it makes it a little bit sounded a little bit tougher. Yeah.
Cracking little car. I was very impressed.
I like everyone's going to hate me for saying this, but I genuinely think the NBS drive better than an NA, especially like your one Allen, because it was a 6 speed and yeah, it had it had grunt like it. Actually, they they they're
quite talky down low and yeah, cracker like it was.
I I personally I think they drive better a bit.
I get the period Controversial, but I see why you say that.
It even felt, you know, more comfortable inside, like like bigger inside. It's not a lot in it, but it
just felt felt bigger to me. I thought, but being a cracking
little car, I really enjoyed that and I can see why it's best selling sports car in the world. So it's fairly it's pretty much
ticks all those boxes, does everything it says.
What else about that? Oh, anyone has past compliance,
which is well, yeah, that's a good thing.
So of course, now start all the other things.
Oh, but what you need to do is I'll bet you need to do this.
So the current thing is, do I have the lock nuts for the alloy wheels? Well, no, I don't have the lock
nut for the album, so I don't. I said, can you point me in the
right direction as to where I can go and buy one today?
I'll. I'll go and do the rounds of
Import Monster and Shinzo Garage and all those those JDM places, but as yet I haven't received the the photo of what I know what they need. I didn't even realise that
locked up on it. It had back in the wheels off it
while it was here. I probably should have done
that, but we'll try it at least that would have shortcut that system. So I presume it'll grind to a
halt again now until we can actually.
Why couldn't they tell you that in the first place?
Now that's a very good question, Scott.
Then you could have already got, you know, the air box and everything all at once. Yeah.
So do they need to see the wheels off the car, David?
It has spaces on the rear wheels so they will need to come off the road with you. OK.
I see, because I was going to say otherwise.
Can you just say, yes, I have to lock it up but I'm not giving it to you? Well, unfortunately someone else
is, is holding all the cards at the moment.
So until I can get that bit signed off and then, you know, we've then got to wait for an appointment for registration.
Theoretically once the, and I was assured that, oh, it's OK once, once you've got a road with you, we've got got a month to, to get it registered. And I thought, yeah, no, that's,
that's once you've got a road with you, I'd like to like it registered for a month's up. So what's this space?
What's this space? Well, can you go to like a
normal Thai shop and say, hey, you know, just take it with you and say, can you, can you guys get these wheels off?
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Well, between a performance
workshop and a roadworthy place, you would have thought that would have been an option. But anyway, so now I just have
to stress about, you know, wheel studs being broken and things like that. So we'll cross that bridge when
we get to it. David So they're aftermarket
wheel nuts on that, like lock nuts.
Look, I, I presume they are, yes, that looks like they are.
They've got something written on the on the on the, on the bolt itself, which I can't actually make out in the photos.
So I've asked for a photo of the nut itself off the head of the head of the bolt with the the wheel.
That's the start. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I mean, the car has been quite modified, so I'm guessing that there some, some branded, some, you know, JDM branded. So anyway, I'll keep you posted.
Keep you posted. Well I'm 99% sure a tie shop
should be able to help you out with that.
Well, I would have thought so. I would have thought so.
So I'll, I'll, I've got a bid on tomorrow, but Thursday.
Bring it to a tie shop in the northern suburbs, David.
Well, exactly right. We know what we're doing.
Yeah, they're used to it. Or just leave it, you know, in
Campbellfield overnight and you'll have to put up a new set of wheels. But the wheels.
The wheels. Will be on.
I do have another set of wheels that go on it and at the moment it's got about $3000 worth of wheels on it, so and.
You got a set of four bricks as well?
Yeah, four, which is complementary all.
Set of bricks which are which are quite pricey these days to be fair. I don't need to be started on
being parked outside the workshop anyway.
It'll, it'll all, it'll all, it'll all be resolved very soon.
And I'll look back and laugh, boys, I'll look back and laugh.
Well, there's. Actually, another guy in the
club Maddie knows very well who has bought a car in a similar time to me. And we've been having this, this
farcical game of, of whose car is going to be on the road first. Like it's been backwards and
forwards and backwards and forwards and, and one of us will get a bit of an advantage in, you know, for a few days and then bang, something happens and then the other one catches up.
So it's going to be very fun to see who's on the road first.
That would be fun anyway. It's all good fun.
Well, David Prince, well. It will be good fun.
We know some Thai people over the side.
So you know, they say, David, if it spins forth, you bring it to the north. So that's that's, that's that's
what's going to happen. OK.
OK. Good to know.
Thank you. Hey, no worries.
Anytime, anytime I can help Chad, how you doing man?
What's updates with you? Good.
Not a whole bunch of car updates, mainly been working on the Sylvia a little bit. I took that to a track day a
couple of weeks ago up in Bradford.
And then yeah, like just before I drove that up there, I noticed that the the front tube tyres were like completely flat in the garage and I'd only driven it like a week beforehand.
So I don't know what happened but for the both of them to go flat anyway, I just got through the track day with just pumping it up, you know like I would do a lap and the tyre tyres would be hot. I'd do a session and then come
back and then by the time I have to go out again the bloody things would be like half, you know, to 15 PSI or something.
So I don't know what's going on. Probably just like valves or
something that needs to be redone.
I had a set of extractors sitting in the garage for, I reckon more than two years. And yeah, I just decided on the
way can I'll just Chuck those in and hurt myself quite, quite nicely on the hands as well, smacking around and whatnot.
But yeah, they, they got in. Now I just have to work out the
like all the emissions gear that plugs in to the extractors and there's all sorts of little bits that I have to sort of figure out what to do with and fresh. Gasket on.
Fresh gasket on. Yeah, I, I bought that again
like years ago. They've just been sitting in the
garage waiting for to get done. But yeah, it's significantly
louder and significantly more grunty.
And also, you know, as a, you know, you always have to do this when you reprise extractors on a car, start it without any headers on, which was insane. Like I'm pretty sure I'm like.
Work up the whole neighbourhood. Yeah, it was like 4:00 on a
Sunday, but still I yeah, I think I've probably woke up people five or six suburbs away and also my neighbours probably don't like me as much anymore, but that's fine.
Probably like the dead mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Falkland Cemetery would have heard you for sure.
Yeah. Now that was good fun.
I, I didn't go for a drive, but yeah, I just, yeah, it was nice to take something off on the car as well.
Apart from that, not much Civics on the back burner until I get back from my New Zealand holiday in a couple weeks.
And yeah, that's it. And everything else is sort of
as it is, yeah, status quo. Yeah, very good.
Can you do me a favour chat when you go to New Zealand, can you take a note of how many cars have body damage?
Because in some spots I'm pretty sure it's one every two.
So it's not bad. It's terrible.
Is it some sort of like phenomenon there?
Like every Camry has more than one dent and every Subaru forest that has more than one dent. I don't know, I did.
It definitely was more on the South Island, so maybe it's because the weather there. But like the amount of cars I
saw, like here you see a car with bio damage, you know, maybe one every 50 cars or something. There was like it was so common.
Some parking lots, like half the cars would serve body damage.
I'm like, what's going on here? Like what's?
What's the deal? So like Fender benders and
whatnot? Well.
Is there like major stuff? It's always something like
bumper, maybe, you know, recorder, that sort of thing, but there's always something going on.
All right, well, I'm going both the North and South Island, so I'll definitely, I'm going to keep a tally.
I'm going to take photos and I'm going to try and do a comparison between what the Hell's going on there and get to the bottom of it. Yeah, this just VL.
Well, there you go. I mean, you've got, you've got
inside. Yeah, because like again, I
remember from my holiday, I was very confused.
So if somebody else can confirm, it means I'm not crazy.
It's the Kiwis that are back. I can say that because I'm an NZ
citizen all. Right.
You are an NZ citizen. Yeah, yeah, that is true NZ.
So. So Chad's going across the Dutch
and yeah, he can officially say that now.
Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll, you know, do one of the.
Locals, hopefully. I'll have updates with you.
Not a whole lot in the car front.
I'm ching up to drive the STI to work on Friday, hopefully cool the fun car Friday. I'm pretty sure the battery
might be close to dead. So I'm going to put the battery
tender on, get it get it souped up the D Max.
We discussed how the service centre.
Tried to renew well. OK so now there's an update to
that I think because I said no to the AC system sanitization and this is me with a tinfoil hat on and I usually don't support this kind of stuff. It's like getting the conspiracy
theories. I am almost convinced they put
some pollen or some other shit into into my air philtre because every day when I head to work if I put the the heater on I just start sneezing. When I start watering I start
sneezing. Don't put the heater on.
No trouble at all. No, it's a scam.
It's a scam. I'm telling you they did
something like we'll teach them a lesson and you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put a buyer philtre
for the cabin, pull it out and then see what they've done.
You know, and I I'm going to be like there'll be like some kind of all kind of pollens in there. They'll be like some kind of
each powder in there. But like I knew it.
I knew it. They did this to me.
I'm coming for UI Susan Weston then.
What was the service that they offered?
It was like just I will sanitise your AC system.
Or something they they highly advise an AC system sanitization for $110, which my understanding would be included a Philtre, a brand new air cabin air Philtre, and then something akin to one of those little Maguire's cans that you press on and run the AC on circulation. I could be wrong.
It could be something a little better that has some kind of antibacterial properties, but that's what I suspect is going on. So like $50.00 worth of spray
and Cabin Philtre would, yeah, is essentially what they're charging you nearly double or more than double for, yeah.
I wouldn't think that if they didn't quote the cabin philtre as well, I don't think that they'd change the cabin philtre.
You reckon they'd just run the old philtre and just do the spray? Yeah, I would've put a pasta.
Such a scam. It's a raw.
Look, I again like David said, they obviously these businesses need to make money but some of it just seems a bit rorty, especially when they're like we'll give you 2 new tyres for $950. I was like, look, I know they're
U tyres but you know, I wasn't born yesterday.
I'd be really interested to see the uptake in in the sanitization thing after COVID, Yeah.
That's that's what I was thinking.
I think those words like people, a lot of people would go, Oh yeah, I better have that done. Yeah, yeah, I suspected it very
much became a post COVID, you know, addition rather than before. There would have been the
standard AC service, whether it's like the re gas or the the cabin philtre chains, that kind of stuff.
But post COVID it just very much seems like a post COVID.
It's like, oh, you don't want COVID in your air philtre, which I'm like, isn't that the job of the philtre sometimes?
So this just then ISIS invented COVID so that they could sell sanitization. You heard it here first.
It, it, it wasn't Wuhan. It was it was Japan.
No. Well, it was Thailand.
Thailand. Yeah.
They went to Thailand, those youths.
Now remember, if it's on the radio, it's true.
Yeah. The Honda has been getting a few
K's like my parents are very very happy with it.
I. Think all that?
Good to hear Alan, don't. Don't give him a big head.
Don't. Don't give him a passive.
For those who are at home, Ed's just joined us.
Is they they after a few days, they were like, you got a very good deal on this car. We're very happy.
Tell your F friend Ed, Thank you, you know.
Well, that's nice. I was actually going to call you
a couple of days ago and then I got distracted, but just to see how they're enjoying it. But it's nice to hear that
because we all love Honda Jazzers and they're so easy to live with and it means your mum can be confident and comfortable. Well, that's that's a good win.
Yeah, because it's it's basically the Suzuki but not ship you. Know.
Not that this is the newest ship, but it's probably probably a bit more powerful and more cons and.
Yeah, less sluggish and you know, obviously the added reversing camera. Yeah, just the better boot
space. Yeah.
Better Bluetooth, Yeah, far better, I guess utility in terms of doors and seats, so. How far those doors open and the
magic seats. It's like once you once you've
had jazz, you almost can't go. Back.
You can't go back. The the only thing I've I've
investigated is one of those big 10.2 inch Android units to have
like the wireless car play. Yeah, and that would only be if
I drove the car because, you know, my parents aren't going to use car play. Yeah, but you know, I'm like it.
It changes the dynamic. It does it.
It's like being able to see, being able to.
See, as, as BJ says, so that that's the one thing I've kind of thought about for the car. Apart from that, I'm very happy.
I took it for a drive on Sunday just to my uncle's house just to show them and they weren't very happy to see it but.
They weren't very happy to see it.
Why not? It's going off a second hand
jazz. It's not.
It's not the kind of thing that most people would would spruik about. But that shows hey.
Hey, hey, hey. So we've got David Prince on You
Can't Talk. I've got another.
Gas in stock. I love them.
I think they're great cars. It's, it's, it's, I think they
weren't happy about it because that was showing me being a responsible young man rather than, you know, the MX5 young man who was clearly, you know, spending his money irresponsibly and he should have been taking care of his family.
Well, that's the other flip side of this.
I've been enjoying roosting around in the MX Fives.
It's it's a good drive, that car.
Well, I think because that's all for me.
Let's move on to you, Ed, then give us your your car updates.
Sorry. Sorry, I didn't.
Want we missed you last week? I know I'm.
I missed everyone last week. I don't know where I was.
Oh, dinner. I was out at dinner.
Sorry. Yeah.
It's. More important than us is it?
Yeah, car updates. Well, yeah, sold Jazz to Alan's
parents, traded in Alan's MX5. So now I have two MX Fives, an
NA and an NB. At the moment all I need is an
NC and an ND and hey, full set, full set.
I don't see that happening, though, in the near future.
So David has been very kind to pop round and do a few, well, let's say kind, kind to pop round, but also a pain Custer.
You know, I'm a pain customer. This is this is not charity
work. He's tidied the seats a little,
put the glove box back in so there's not a gaping hole.
In case Ed hasn't, I did send Ed the money to yes, yes, yes.
Yes. Yeah, the glove, the glove box
money was received. Thank you, Alan.
That head, the unit that you guys put in I'm sure is very good in many ways, but I just wanted to listen to Gold 104 and it took me like 20 minutes to find it in this Bury, in this venue of. There, it's something up to see,
mate. It's like, you know?
It was real fuzzy when I did find gold 104 and and, and I was like, you know, this Alan's put this fucking delirial on there that's the size of a tiny Dick and it doesn't you know, and it doesn't pick up FM properly, you know, So I thought, do I put the original aerial back so it it's not fuzzy And then I couldn't be bothered And I just then I found I did Bluetooth my phone and I, I did make the music stream, but then I couldn't make it stream again. Like every time I got in, I'm
like play on the screenplay and it doesn't doesn't play and I'm like, well, then I have to go to my phone and work out why it's not talking or saying, you know, anyway, I.
Just I feel like you've just been an old man about this ad because. Maybe I, I.
Hop in the MX5, hit the button and it connects to the phone and everything goes from there. Also, are you an iPhone man or
are you a Google Man 500? Well, you just say hey Siri and
Siri does a rest for you. Really.
Yeah. Well, maybe I need a training
session in this thing, but it's it's beyond me tech.
Support. And it's got Google and pictures
and videos from like, there is so much in here I will never touch, you know, just don't touch it anyway.
So thanks for putting that in. That's good.
So that's the MX. What else have I been doing?
The the the the the the Peugeot, the bloody little Peugeot three O 6 I bought. Well it's good.
It's good little car. It's booked in.
I had it booked in a few weeks back to get it's clutch cable done and the wrong one was supplied with the car.
It's a left hand drive clutch cable, not a right hand drive clutch cable which is a lot longer because it has to travel further to the right hand side of the car.
So the Peugeot man has ordered that it's come in.
I've booked it in again for another week's time ish.
But the other issue I have on that, oh I bought a set of factory alloys for it. The five spoke sort of swept
turboy looking alloys but the previous owner to the Peugeot misplaced one set of alloy wheel nuts.
So I've only got three sets of alloy wheel nuts and one steel wheel is on the car because the other tyre got damaged in a long story anyway. So I've ended up with all these
wheels. I've got the original steels,
I've got another set of alloys and then hubcaps that I bought, and I've just sort of amassed all these round things for that car. What I don't have is the 4th set
of alloy wheel nuts, which are longer than the steel wheel nuts. So I need to locate a set.
Persons don't have it, Repco didn't have it.
I may need to go to a wrecker. Oh, Maddie.
Super cheap, yeah. I shopped around at super cheap.
Yeah, well, this thing for that car we don't have, but other Peugeot ones we can get. So if it's similar to another
Peugeot. Probably is.
I can definitely get them for you, but I will you again it I would have to make sure that they are they are I can.
Bring in the nut that I have or the wheel stud and these are studs that it, it's not just the nut, it the stud and the thread screwing the hub. It's all one piece.
So yeah, I need to find four of those and then I can put the yellow wheels on at least and get rid of this amassment of other eels that are accumulated. What else can I tell you about
cars? I've just brokered a deal
through a contact that David and I have for I've actually sort of gone commercial. You know, it's like someone
going commercial real estate over residential on commercial.
It's a double deal for a Hyundai.
I load van, diesel and an Isuzu NPR 200 truck.
So if you need to move house in the next month, I'm your guy.
So the truck's one of those little ones you can drive on a car licence, like you rent from Budget.
And it's, yeah, it's got like the big box on the back and the power lift tailgate thing. Does it have curtains on the
side or is it solid? It's a big solid box on the
back. OK, All right, if we've.
Had they call it a Pantech? Don't they like a Pantech?
Truck we we could have we could have made a deal today in the next few days. You want a truck?
We're looking at something for work that doesn't need a truck licence. No, this doesn't need a truck.
Licence. The only thing is I think we're
after something with curtains. So I'll, I'll, I will inform the
the people I work. Box got a box on it.
Yeah, so and. A powerlifting isn't.
It and a powerlift tailgate. Yeah, actually.
One of my kids are settling out on a house tomorrow, so I'm not knocking at your door. I'll do a deal cheaper than
budget. I'm like, there's, there's gonna
be like Ed's moving service that, you know, actually gets graded out of this rather than actually sell the.
Truck Yeah, Thinking maybe I should keep this truck and put it on truck next door or I don't know how do you rent out a truck Uber truck share or something I mean.
Man with a van, Man with a truck.
You. You both.
Yeah, well, they don't get me. They just get the truck.
Yeah, 100%, yeah. Unless I know that this.
Is the beginning of Ed's like rental Enterprise?
Yeah. Oh.
I started thinking of an eye load and a truck.
I could. I could do something with those
two anyway. Very nice.
What I'll I'll find things. With some GPS units in, you
know. No, no, there's.
Credit cards and yeah. Trackers things, yeah, anyway,
but that's that and I think that's about it in the world of cars at the minute so. We've got, we've got 6th, we've
got Budget, we've got Avis and we know we've got Buntings.
Yeah. Yeah.
So. Right, Small job, take the I
load. Big job, take the truck.
Take the truck. I I did.
Have baby bunting and but then I think that's been taken.
Yeah, I did drive that truck. I've got to say very easy to
drive and I've rented one from Budget before to move all those filing cabinets years ago that I got.
But yeah, very easy to drive. It's one of those automated
manual things. So it feels a bit like an SMG
box when you take off, but was really smooth and good.
And you know, and I thought, wow, I can see why people like these things because turning circle was good, easy to manoeuvre, very square. You know, it just I don't know,
I found it, I found it a lot easier than I thought to to drive that truck. I think you found your calling,
Ed. You need to you need to become a
truck driver. I would quite happily become a
truck driver, I think. Next thing you know, Ed's doing
Interstate trips on AB double. Yeah, yeah.
I don't like those big, big ones, but like, and now I think about it, when I was little, I used to play a game like this is like 4-4 years old, something truck Simulator.
My dad would get. I used to like to play a game
called deliveries where my dad would say, oh, OK, I need this to go to the front lounge room and then bring this back and I would take my pedal car and I would go and do deliveries and whatever. It's just like that, but bigger.
Under a percent. Yeah.
Well, I mean our our resident truckie Chad will give you all the. Are you a truckie, Chad?
Yeah, man. You know about these things.
Yeah, a little bit. All right, we'll talk afterwards
about what the hell this ICC is worth.
Yeah. Yeah.
Whether I've been dotted, Have I been?
I'm into the idea of buntings rentals.
I mean, it's a it's $1,000,000 idea.
Absolutely. All right, well, we'll talk
after because I might have made a big mistake, I don't know.
Pardon pending on that, by the way.
Trademark. Trademark, pending trademarks
and. I also drove the Mocha on the
weekend. I went on a fun drive to with a
few people out to the Gembrook and surrounds.
So we had an eclectic mix. We had a Datsun 240Z manual.
We had me and the Moch. We had a Peugeot three O 8.
Is it like three O 9? Three O 9.
We are 9, which is a rare import 2 door Peugeot looks a bit like an Escort. We had a Volkswagen Type 3
waggon for our friend Nick and we had a Renault Fuego turbo factory turbo import. So that was a very eclectic mix
of cars, French, German, English, Japanese and another French. But that was fun.
Not warm Sunday morning early in the MO around the hills, but.
No. But fun makes you feel alive.
I tried to remind myself, Ed, you like skiing.
This is skiing at high speed. Just think of it like.
Skiing on the road. Hold on your face.
An engine you like that. When you're at Mount Hotham,
just go with that. Yeah, the others looked a lot
happier. Yeah, they would have.
They would have anyone updates with me.
So taking the laser in to get the CV joint done on Thursday.
So, so that that's, that's that on the left hand side, though I did the right one a few years ago and the left one started to make noises. You know, K's related.
I guess it's just one of those things.
So that's getting done on Thursday.
What else have I done? I'm going to take the typhoon
out for a drive this weekend. I think I haven't driven it in a
while. So I take that for a spin.
And I think that's been pretty much it on my end of season.
It's been pretty quiet in in in my car world as of late.
But after start doing some more things.
But I also did one more other thing on the weekend.
I went and looked at a car as a potential flipping car and you know, I, I know these cars quite well.
It was a, you know, I'll be transparent.
It was an, it was an SP 22,000 and two.
And the pictures looked OK. But then, you know, it was a
classic case of go and see the current person to make sure instead of doing something over, over the phone.
And you know, I got there and then, you know, I was speaking out about this on the on the way home.
But I, I got there and I just thought it was like, oh, OK, I'm going to start things. You just add things up in your
head that needs doing, that needs doing, this needs fixing, that needs changing, this needs then you're like, it's not worth it. Like, you know, in terms of like
you know, to to to make to make a buck or to or to to bring about like the car was the car drove fine and but but it like it needed. I needed three things and as
sorry, I needed, I needed all three things done.
So, as Edward was saying to me in the car, a good friend.
Oh, Kent Bergsman. Yeah, that's right.
Kent Bergsner, the Mercedes diesel expert.
He, he says, he says car, when you look at a car, you should look at three things and you know, you know, like the, you know, there's three categories really, the body, the interior and mechanicals. And if you know, two of the
three are a bit how you're going, then you probably, yeah, it's not, not the car for you. But if if two are great and one
like mechanicals need work or the body needs work, but the interior is mint and the and the mechanicals, I mean, then yeah, you know, you can, you can, you can make the choice.
Do you guys think that that's probably the best way of looking at things if two of the three are good, looking at a second hand car? Or do you think that if if it's
got a little bit of everything, it's still bring it, bring it back. But would that turn you off?
If that makes sense? So like you, you buy and sell
cars like, you know, day in, day out, You, you, you have a dealer's and is that something that you look for or would you say I'll just send this to grey whenever offer goes and you know. Yeah, you, I mean you, you, you
sort of get to know, I suppose, what stuff costs.
It's always a punt. You know, there's always a punt
on something or something you're not aware of.
And so you kind of, you know, the stuff you can see, you know, you walk around and you're like, OK, that bar needs a repaint.
That's about 400 bucks. The tyres are stuffed.
OK, I can get them maybe second hand at 60 bucks each or new for $110 each. You know, he's kind of going
like you were saying, you do that sort of mental arithmetic.
It depends just how wide some stuff that would scare people doesn't scare me because I'm David Prince who can do vinyl repairs very well. Or I know I can get tyres second
hand at a good price that that other people might not know about. Or I know I can get a bumper
done for 400. Other people might look at that
and think, oh, that's $1500 repair, you know, so, so a part of it is just knowledge and network and having having those go to people and knowing what roughly what stuff costs.
But there's always that unknown of or I put it on the hoist and well, is it all the brake lines? Is it for discs?
Is it for shocks that are weeping?
Is it cast of bushes? And you know, re suspension
bushes. And you know, you you can
easily, easily rack up to three grand these days at a mechanic doing sundry whatever. So I always go into a car if I'm
buying it, sort of going, all right, can I get out of it for what I paid, you know, would take?
And if the answer's yes, then there's kind of very little risk because as soon as you buy it, you put it into the mechanic and you go put it on a hoist, check it out.
And if the bill or the estimate is, oh, yeah, it just needs two discs, Ed and wiper blades, great.
All right, we can roll with this.
But if it's, yeah, if it's two grand worth of work or three grand worth of work, then you're like, look, I can bring it back.
I can do it. But it's no money, you know, I'm
better off just selling it as is, not spending another cent on it. And maybe you make 500 bucks or
something, or, you know, maybe you break even, but at least you're not going backwards, hopefully.
So, yeah, it's. And like that Mazda, we talked
about it. And it's not that you can't
bring it back. Matt's the perfect person to
bring that car back. You know, you know how to get
the parts, could do the deep bushes underneath, steam, clean the seats and blah, blah, blah. It's just.
Are you doing it just because you're bored on a Tuesday night and you want something to do, or are you doing it because you want to make one or two grand on it?
And the thing with that car was it had done 269 or 265 KS.
So the KS are not on its side. If the car had done 1/21/30 K
and by doing the work on it, you'd have a real glamour and it had a perfect book, then you're like, all right, I can ask a bit of a premium for this thing once it's done.
So you might err on the side of doing some of these and might be, but when it's 265 K, most people would just go, you know, the body's not amazing. The KS are not amazing.
You know, the interior is amazing.
The history is not amazing. None of it's none of it's sort
of stand out. So you start looking at you're
looking at a pretty average example and that gets to be a hard sell because you've got to, I always just say, well, who's the buyer of this car? Who's who's waking up in the
morning going yeah, you know what I really want a 265K old Mazda 323. That's what I'm that's what I'm
really after today. No one, no one's doing that.
Whereas someone might wake up and go, oh, there's this P 20s are a bit cool. They're not worth much now.
Yeah, let's see if I can find a cracking one of those.
And at 120 KS, that's the. Cracking 1.
That's the cracking one. You know, if you can bring the
rest back. Some cars are bring backable,
you know, and others just aren't.
Or not cheaply anyway. You know you can't.
You can't turn a real shit box into a glamour.
It's funny, the case is a really interesting aspect of of that, I think because it's often not represented well, generally it it can be, but it doesn't have to be representative of the of the condition of the car. Like a car can have 120 on it
and has had one service, you know, in it's life and it's and it's terrible and, and that accord that we've I've got with 472 on it lovely car always maintained, always, always looked after and and taken care of.
And it shows, you know, I mean things last if they looked after properly. But but it, but it, it's the
sort of thing, all things being equal, people will look at the KS and they go, Oh yeah, no, that one's got too many.
If that one's got less, it's not necessarily the better car, no.
No, no, no, I always. Yeah.
You want KS matched with history, and it's gotta it's gotta be commensurate with the price that they're asking.
That's right. I'm fine with a high K car as
long as the price reflects that. Yeah, if it's beautifully
serviced, no drama. Yeah, like I, I was, you know,
I've, you know, I mean, I like a high Milo and and we all do.
What's your Toyota 3300 and something on MR2325 now?
My Tarago's 420, David's Honda's 475.
Like we're not averse to a high Milo.
No and and yeah, if if the high Milo has been looked after and everything. Yeah it it was fine.
Like my MR2 doesn't look like it's done that many K's like in comparison to what's on the actual dashboard.
Yeah. I mean, to be fair, same as my
laser, now that the roof's done, it actually looks, you know it, it looks pretty good. And you say, wait, this has got
300,000 KS on it. But that master in particular
had, you know, 260 whatever it was.
And you know, it's it looked like it had done a lot more like the seat that like the the driver's seat was torn, which I didn't know, you know, it was it just had all these bits and pieces. I'm like, you add it up and
you're like, oh, geez. OK, well, it's, it's been it's
it's it's a tied car and you know, like normally I'd normally I wouldn't be, I'd be like 260 K That's fine.
Like especially on those like they're, they're pretty good.
But when I got to that point, I was like, well, it needs it needs a lot. And then when it and when he
told me what it actually needed and he gave me the the mechanic report, I was like, OK, add that into it.
Plus it needed a timing belt because that was due.
I was like, you know, and that's a that's a really 1000 bucks in in itself just that whole including parts and labour.
You know, it's you quickly realised you're going to be spending like four to five grand on the car to fix up the two bars that were completely cooked.
You know, it's it just wasn't worth it.
Even if they gave you that car. It's not even.
If they said here it is, you're still spending thousands on it to bring it back. And then it's it's only worth
kind of maybe what you've spent, you know, an economical write off. It's an enthusiast car.
It's only someone that wants to backyard tinker.
Probably is borrow that. Yeah.
Unfortunately, but that's the way it goes until they start going up the other way and become real collectible or something. Which look, look, you know, I
don't think those, those cars will.
But more more importantly, though, it was the, the fact that I was like, you know, I was excited to say and, and I was like, no, I'm going to walk away from this because it's just, it's just there's too much it needs doing.
It was every panel had a dent, every panel had a scratch.
Every, you know, all the interior was, was, you know, the interior would have put a clean up.
OK, I don't know, they're going to get another seat from The Wreckers and stuff. But like that's, that's in
itself. It's a it's a pain in the ass to
do, you know, and then, then the mechanicals, which was like, you know, it was really, really needed to get done.
So I was just like, you know, they, they, they were telling you, they were talking to me and, and you know, and I wasn't listening to what they were saying because I was just like in, in my, in, in my head. I was just adding up all the
crap that I've got to do in my car.
And like, so like, it's just like.
Your dream of being a flipper hasn't hasn't come to fruition yet, Matt, but it will it will it.
Will it? Will It?
Definitely will. Well, part of the experience I
guess is just seeing cars that don't end up being worth it.
You know, I'm sure. Do you see in your line, you
know, plenty of cars that you're just like, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole, you know, like keep it away from me.
Well, there's Yeah. And sometimes things can
surprise you. Like the Jeep.
The Jeep sold last night at the auctions 3600 on that.
So I ended up making a little bit of money on that, only a little bit, but I was staring down the barrel of going backwards. So I was like, well, I'll take
that. But again, that was an
interesting car that Jeep, right, So great case 133,000 on it, the lowest mileage 1 getting around cosmetically very good paint in black, gleaming plastics on the outside bars everything straight, straight, not a cent to spend on the body or the wheels. So you kind of go cosmetics
walking around that body paint wheels very good kays very good.
It had a good history interior needed a good clean.
I didn't do quite a quite a as good a job as I should have, you know, steam cleaning seats and things, but that that would come up so cosmetically very good and mechanically healthy in terms of you know, the way it drove and everything.
There may have been a couple of issues.
There were a couple of things that got picked for roadie ball joints up and the top and bottom ball joints and stuff, but.
It was mechanically healthy for a Jeep.
Or a Jeep? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, mechanically healthy for a Jeep.
So you know, that sort of had a lot going for it.
You know, if that had had a bashed guard or you know, a destroyed interior or 280,000 K on it.
Well, you know, it's just not appealing, you know, because there's, there's way too much damage on an old car like that really just sends it into the the parts bin.
What was it? What was the potential set back
on that car for you, David? Like what?
What would have made you go backwards on it?
Edward, you said, Dave? Sorry mate, it's been a long
day. That car had a potential issue
with one of the engine sensors that I wasn't interested in going further with in terms of diagnosing it and throwing, you know, it was too much of an unknown.
Could be something really simple, could be something more complex. And I just went, you know, you
can't. And again, when when I bought it
that had, that wasn't obvious, you know, so it was only after a couple of lights came on and you go, OK, what's that?
Which we fixed. But you know, was it a permanent
fix or not? It was just like there's a bit
of a question mark on it knowing I've got other cars coming in that I'm more interested in spending time and money on.
So that one, so I can just get out of that one.
Well, then I'm happy someone else can play with it.
Who's who's really into them, you know, So hopefully it goes to someone who's a, who's a, who's a real Jeep now.
So yeah, go ahead. No, no.
So that that was an example of a cheapish car that that did have a lot going for it in terms of body and case and whatever.
But yeah, if you don't, if you don't have all.
So that one was more a mechanical or a diagnostic, you know, issue, not so much body or interior or case.
Yeah, but it may. I mean, you know, if you hadn't,
if you had a car with an amazing interior and an amazing mechanical history and it was just a little bit bashed around the bars or whatever, well then you go, OK, mechanically done, interior done. Great history.
I'll just get the bars sprayed and she's great, you know?
Yeah. Just yeah, Kent Bergsman I think
is on the money with the that that basic diagnostics tool body interior mechanical. I've got nothing wrong with
buying a high mile if like the the history's there and it's been and like I know it's been looked after this like looking at that car, though, it was just like it.
It looked like it had done 450,000 KS in terms of in terms of body and interior. I remember hopping back into my
car, which is virtually identical.
I'm like, oh, this thing's. Perfect.
Nice. Like like and it's you know,
it's done always 100,000 more so it it yeah, I just I I I can see how you know, I can see how cage can hurt it, but also like I'm not scared of cage because I I have seen some cars with, you know, really low cage, but miserable, miserable, you know, service history and mechanically you're right off at the.
Point you've got knowledge of that stuff.
You know a lot of people that's all they go on is case, you know so and also a lot of cars that we like are now just getting old. They're they're not they don't
have cameras like the Jazz, they don't have rib beepers, they don't have Bluetooth and people just don't want to drive them, you know, like even you go, oh good cheap car for someone.
Well, even the cheap car buyers. Now, if you're 18 or 20, yeah,
you've been driving mum and dad's car.
Well, chances are you've had cameras and beepers and Bluetooth and you know you don't want to get into a 2001 three 2-3 with nothing like and parents.
Don't you always expect the car play?
Yeah, exactly. Parents, parents don't want
people getting into that stuff. And so it's really a bit of a
hard sell because that stuff is is old and it's not collectible yet. It's in that dud phase of yeah,
it's not, it's not new enough to be sort of transport and it's not old enough to be collectible.
It's just in the no man's land. Scotty, have you, have you, have
you had to deal with like something like that before where like you've been trying to help a person buy a car and it's like, this is a great option for you.
And they're like, Oh yeah, we should had more airbags and we should had ABS and stuff like that.
Not so much. There's probably more on the
lines of what you were doing where you kind of saw a car and you you're keen on flipping it and see what you could get out of it. You know, I've done that once
before and it kind of set me back and I haven't done it since because I saw the car. I knew it was, they were popular
at the time. It was a a crusader, a kind of
in thing. It was what was it?
Was it 80s? So I had all velour interior.
Interior looked pretty good from the pictures.
It was a big risk because I'd buy auction sight unseen.
I guess. I think, well, when I say big
risk, I mean as in I don't know what it could be, but I knew I wouldn't really lose much money for what I bought it for.
You know, in the end I think I bought it.
I got the car, got a tow truck and it dropped off and all up I was at like 1300 bucks. So I wasn't in much for it.
But then when I kind of saw around it, there was, you know, I'd have to get a whole new boot that was completely rusted out.
Engine wasn't too bad, still ran pretty well, so I didn't have to worry about that. I'd probably have to change the
ties. They weren't the best.
The velour was starting to wear out in spots, so it was almost wasn't velour left. They probably would have been
bit to get a roadworthy for it. But other than that, it was
pretty. It was it was stock.
It was completely original and what I wanted to do was kind of just build it up to a point where then I could sell it original to someone younger and that would, you know, enjoy it because it was as I said, this kind of what the younger ones wanted in the market. But it was just it would be too
time consuming, didn't have time, cost too much, no room to store it because I still had I got the 31 sitting there chilling and then I just put up for sale and sold it.
Cash guy came that day. I think I lost maybe a couple
100 because I wanted it gone straight away.
So. Yeah.
Maddie can't be flipping cars and losing at.
The same time, I feel like maybe it's one of those lessons you have to learn in the art. You've got to, you know, cop a
loss in a couple to kind of, you know, sharpen you up.
Yeah, it it, it is a game. And I mean, I mean, you've told
me you've you've won well and you've lost as well.
So it's, it's the game, it's the flipping game, I guess.
It sounds like a great activity for somebody with a gambling addiction, I must say. Yeah, exactly.
Move away from the pokies and move into car flipping.
Might be better just playing the share market doing some day trading or something. There is that.
Yes, yes. And it's also knowing, yeah.
It's knowing the market, knowing what's desirable.
Like, you know, we can all sit around and go, yeah, an SP20 is it? Is it a little bit of a, it's
got a bit of an edge. It's a little bit desirable in
certain Jack cast circles, you know, Yeah, right.
In the way that a plain old 323 isn't, you know, Nissan Teta.
Well, no one wants a Teta in their life.
Like you wouldn't do it, you know, Corolla or Honda Civic.
OK, well, a bit desirable, you know, a bit sort of.
Then you're like, oh, a triple S pulsar in 15.
I'm like. Yeah, it's a bit of me.
It's tasty. Exactly.
Right. But there's it's about knowing
what what little cults are out there for certain.
And I don't mean Mitsubishi cults, they're not that desirable, not knowing what CULTS cults are out there for certain things. Like I know that little Peugeot
diesel I've got at the moment that's more a love job.
I'm just driving on that because I like it and tinkering.
But I know that there will be a Peugeot diesel fanatic that will buy that car. I'll probably make nothing on
it. I'll probably just get back what
I've tipped into it. But there is a niche of people
out there who really respect that stuff and it'll probably go to someone that lives in the country who who wants one of those. They're rare, you know, there's
not a lot of those out there. It's about knowing that, you
know, and rare doesn't mean good, you know, like there's plenty of cars out there. Well, it's really rare.
But well, yeah, that's right, rare because no one for reason, no one bought them new and no one wants them now, you know?
Yeah. You really have to tap into that
like niche market. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got to find someone who's actually looking for one or yeah, yeah, I guess. I think, I think Ed, you'd sort
of you go, you try and buy cars that again, you might have a pulse on the market more than other people.
So I think you go for cars that you know, are like sort of I'm.
Trying to think what? Yeah.
Inverted quote marks like done deal sort of thing.
Yeah, like, let's look at the last handful.
I've sold the Honda Jazz to Alan's parents.
Now that car, that car could appeal to any number of people.
You know, Jazz is a popular, you know, first car buyer, you know, second car buyer, drive to the station car, older people, easy to get in and out of. Like there's a lot of potential
markets for a Jazz, hence they sold a lot of them.
The car before that I sold was the on record euro, you know, O7 model, first Gen euro. So that was again very well
regarded in the industry. It's it's an old sedan now a lot
of old sedans are nowhere but those, you know, we all know great mechanicals, very good build quality, very refined, hold up well value wise and mechanically.
So there's always a, there's always a, a buyer for an Accord Euro. You know, we know that because
they were well respected. We know they're a well respected
car. But if you were just coming in
blind, you wouldn't, you sort of wouldn't know that what I had before that. I'm trying to remember the cars
before that. They were blue, don't they?
They were. Well, the the cord Euro that I
bought, you know, interior perfect service history perfect.
The body was just a bit, you know, a bit scuffed around here and there. And there was a there was a deal
on the bonnet, which had a little bit of a rust, a rust spot, but it wasn't, it wasn't bad.
And he's like, he's like, I've had off the South for six months and no one's come and look at like.
And it was a one in a car. And yeah, it was a yeah, yeah.
It was a luxury with the with the roof and the.
He must have been asking too much because in accord you're a luxury does not sit around for six months, you know.
It sat around for six months and and he's like, he's like, I just want this thing gone and he's like, it's been my wife's customs day one full, full, full books at the same he.
Must have been asking silly money.
Well, he was, he was asking 7 1/2.
But this is years ago, right? And yeah, 150,000 KS on it like
well. That's what that's what I just
sold this one for now, 7 1/2. Yeah, 150,000 KS on it.
And at the time they were all going for about 9:00-ish.
So like it was, it was cheaper on the market and it was close to me. So like, oh, I'll go, I'll go
have a look at it. I drove it and I took my brother
with me and I'm like this thing, this thing's fine.
Like, and he's like, yeah, 7 1/2 with the roadworthy like if you want. And I got him to seven and yeah,
mint, like it was drove beautifully.
Right now the mechanic, he's he's like, how much did you buy this thing for with like 7 grand?
He's like, he's like, he's like you paid 7 for this.
But he he couldn't believe how good it was for for seven grand.
And. And I'm.
Surprised with that. I'm really surprised, I thought.
That for he's like this car sat for six months.
I you know, I shoot you not sat for six months and he's like, I haven't had a single message on the car.
He's always like he saw the. Ad was online.
Properly No, it was it was it was the the reason why it got me is because he took photos of everything.
Like if he took he took photo of the, you know, the the little stone ship that became a little rust, kind of like the tiniest little rust thing on the bonnet. And it was, it was really
transparent, like a really clean car, one in a car, full books.
Full home maybe that maybe he was a little too descriptive with that rusting and and that pulled people off, but.
Look, I, I, he was like, I was like, this is this seems like a good, this seems like a good thing.
Let's go have a look at it. And, and he was like, he's like,
you were the first person in six months.
He's like, I've had the car up for six months and, and he's like quite literally it was, it's been the cheapest one on the market. He's like, I haven't touched the
price. There's been other ones going
for 9 and this one was 7 1/2 with the, with one of the least amount of case at the time, 150 on it, you know, silver on black leather. And it was a, it was a beautiful
car. I mean, you saw that car.
I mean, it was, it was a yeah. It was a great car.
Suspect the guy was schizophrenic.
And like, people would come and see it.
He just doesn't remember and stuff.
This time you caught him when he's on the meds and he's like, Oh yeah, in a while, let's just get rid of it.
Oh man. It.
Was like a person comes by like, hey, man, the the court, He's like get out of here. Everyone's like, jeez, crazy.
He doesn't remember the whole incident.
It's like, yeah, it's been six months.
It's like like 100 people rocked up.
It's just he's just scared him away, scared him away.
Well, dude, I knew he was sitting for six, but he's like the car's quite literally sat here for six months because I opened the bonnet and it was cobwebs in the underneath there.
He's like knowledge driven this car in the last year and I've had it for six months. And he bought his wife a brand
new car at the time. And he's like, he's like, yeah,
like quite usually no one's come and looked at the car and it was just, it was, I was like this, I said this at this, that's the moment. But this has to be a SUS car.
Like like it can't be, it can't be this good.
You know, And I got it for seven grand with a roadworthy and, and you know, it needed quite literally 2 tyres and something, something small for a roadway. It was like it needed virtually
nothing. Wow, it's pretty.
Yeah, 7 grand. It was mine.
And yeah, I mean, I don't know where it is these days, but it was, it was, it was a, it was a cracking car.
So did you do all right out of reselling?
I didn't sell it. It went with a a certain person.
Oh, OK, I see. So yeah, it it was a cracking
car though, and, and in the end someone backed into it and it damaged the bonnet so I got it spread anyway.
So it was like, well that's fine.
So the. Issue got fixed.
The one issue got fixed, so you know the car's perfect to you.
That's right. I will say on the the idea of
like you want, you know, two out of three to be good, you know, in terms of interior body or you know, mechanics.
If this is the car you're not intending on flipping, you just actually want to keep it, I think you can forgo interior and body just for mechanics with the understanding that it's going to like crap and you see it's probably going to have a tear in it. You might need like, you know, a
couple of seat covers and some sticky tape, you know, foam material. Yeah, that's right, Alan.
Yeah. Yeah, you might need that,
mightn't you? What?
Excuse me I disclosed every issue and there's no like missing pieces of foam. So sorry I lost my train of
thought. I'd rather.
Talking about you've attacked and you lost your train of thought. Talking about what you'd rather
though, I would much, much rather a car that had a great body and a great interior and needed some mechanical work.
Because mechanics are designed to be pulled apart, shocks are designed to be replaced, batteries, tyres, you know, oil leaks, whatever. It's all doable.
But to get a body right is far harder and more expensive, and to get an interior right is often far harder and more expensive. So you know, I, I.
Do agree with that to an extent of again, you're a man with car knowledge. But if you're going to paint a
car, you know to respray a car properly in this day and age is a 10 grand plus exercise. Hey, there's a car on Facebook.
2300 dollars. Yeah, and you're real good.
Again, an understanding of like this is a car that you need to get you to work, school, whatever it is that the the running of the car is the most important thing.
I would forego a good body and a good interior.
Would you understand that I'm going to get nothing on this car in the future, but right now this car is going to get me reliably to work or ever for at least the foreseeable future, hopefully. Anyway, you're saying especially
if it's if you haven't got anywhere, you know, to park an undercover or if you live, you know, live on a busy street or something like that. You remember all that the hail
damaged cars, you know, that was a huge debacle after the hail storms we had go through. Easier now, but yeah, that that
went on for years, didn't it? Still going on.
I mean, one of your cars you had recently, I think had a little bit of hail on it. Still dead.
One did. Oh, yeah.
It was that white jazz I sold to your parents, Alan.
No. No, it wasn't.
I've got a statutory warranty on that, you know, no.
It was the other jazz that I've currently got and that that's an O8 model but so minor. Like you're talking 5 tiny
little, you know, Dings on the roof that I had removed, you know, for the very little money so.
But if you, if you're buying it, people said I got damaged in the hail and some of them were a lot worse than that, you know, oh.
Yeah, yeah, some were. Some were destroyed.
If it wasn't on pillars and things like that, then people sold them quite cheap in the end.
And yeah, I hear what you're saying LM.
I mean, if you're not fussed about how it looks, the mechanicals are important, you know?
Well, here's to that bit that you're saying, David, I know a guy that had an Ek hatch, just just a just a GLI, you know, basic hatch and it got it got held, held damaging and they wrote it off and he brought it back because he's like more mechanically the car's, you know, perfect.
So he brought it back a month later, he got hit up the arse, brought it back again. So he got written off twice in
the space of like two months, Like they they'd quite literally written off, paid him out. He's like, I'll just just, I'll
just keep driving it. So because it was over 15 years
old, he didn't get away with the record.
So he's like, look, the car looked like crap anyway, but mechanically it was perfect. And he's like, I couldn't like
he had an S2000 as he's a nice car and this car just said it was his daily to set outside, you know, copped it.
So he didn't care. He's like, I don't care what
looks like. He's like he's like they paid me
twice what the car was worth. So I don't really care.
And he just kept driving this the Civic with, to be fair, the how that, which was horrendous, like the bonnet, the roof, it was, it was monted. Even the guy even on even on the
sides of the car because like the hell was coming in this way.
It was like chopped up. But but he's like, he didn't
care. And he's like then he got hit up
the ass and ripped off again. He's like, oh, well, it's, it's,
it's all right. So yeah, for him, he didn't
really care because he's like, well, mechanically this car still gets me to work every day and, and the body wise is monted, but I don't really care. Yeah.
But for a lot of people, like, yeah, a lot of people don't intend on owning cars forever. So if you are buying something,
having that in the back of your mind that like look, if the interior is very common or the car's very common, you could possibly get interior pieces. But bodywork is probably going
to be one of those things, like you said, Ed, if you want to do it properly, it gets very expensive very quickly.
Whereas mechanics, certain jobs, they may look big, you know a lot of them can be done piece, meal, that sort of stuff.
Yeah, yeah. It's like I had that little
Impreza a while back, you know, that little O 5:00-ish.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
No earlier 949595 I think 9495 Impreza sedan.
It was my friend's grandmother's and that was more hits than Elvis bashed on every corner, you know, scraped bashed trolley shopping trolley Dings. I walked around the body trying
to find some redeeming feature, you know, some panel that was sort of say no, they were just all all needed doing.
An equal opportunity car, yeah. Yeah, but it drove beautifully
and the interior was mint and. I drove that car.
It was great, yeah. 80,000 KS on it.
It was a really tight, nice little car to drive and I thought, oh, what do I do with this?
And again, like you, I walked around it and sort of went 1500 there another thousand there. Oh God, this, this is just not
worth it. And then I thought, but hang on,
someone might just want this because it's cracking caves and it's a cracking Dr. I had so much interest in that car.
I put on Gumtree and I sort of like $3800 with a roadie because you can't really buy too many cars with that mileage with a roadie at that level. And somebody just well, and he
came and said, I don't give rats about the bodies going to live in the streets and it's my daily car and you know, you know, I didn't, didn't bat an eyelid and paid the asking price.
So oh. Yeah.
There are people out there that just want that, but it that was it had a roadie, which is rare for a car of that age, and it was brilliant. KS 80 KS on it.
You know, had that been 300,000 K?
Even with a roadie, it's still probably a bit in on the nose.
How? You going all right, so tips
before we get into the car quiz about that?
Buy a newish car with a camera and keep it and don't even.
Cars are too fucking hard. Beside, besides that, listen to
our good friend Kent Bergsma. And if Kent Bergsma says, you
know, if two out of three ain't bad, then then that's, that's probably a probably a good option to to go with, but.
Again, also try and work to your strengths.
If you know a panel beta, try and focus on something that has the other two other than the body.
If you know a good mechanic or you are a mechanic, try and focus on one that has good you know body and good interior and work on the the engine. If you do none of those things,
probably don't get into car flipping.
Don't do that. Don't do that.
And have you got the time for it?
Yeah, that's very important. That's a big one, time A.
Lot of projects go wayward because of no time.
Yeah, exactly right. Yep, Case in point, got.
So shall we get it to the car quiz for tonight?
Oh, the quiz. The quiz.
Yep, I'm going. To get these two me and shout
I'm. Going to move to the side.
Yeah, get rid of them. Oh.
I'm just going to I can move the the computer, all right, All right. You guys, no, don't trust.
No trust my knee. I can't even get a combo for
this. Oh, his knee and he's back.
My goodness. Oh dear.
His knees excuse to stay close so he can see the end.
Yeah, better lean this way. So we've got David, we've got
Scotty, we've got Ed, we've got Alan and we've got Chad playing for tonight. Illustrious reward of the.
Chockeys. No bragging rights bragging.
Rights there's there's something I prefer with chockeys involved.
I think we. Can we can always.
We can always try to get some chocolates involved at some point. All right, guys, you know the
rules. 1010 questions possible. This question.
Let's crack on. Statsky and Hutch, they drove a
Ford Grand Torino. What year was this Grand Torino?
Yeah, Ed. 1967. Incorrect.
Scott. Scott Scott was in the next. 71.
Incorrect David was next 72 Incorrect Ellen. 69 Incorrect
Chad. 70. 70s incorrect 1975, gentlemen.
OK, a lot newer than I thought. Wow.
Yep, one fact it was they were really.
One fact they really took the car to space.
Though they, that was when the era of big block engines were just so choked up by emissions. It was a big 5.8 litre and it
couldn't do a skid because because quite literally they were just, they were like 5.8 litres and like 100 horsepower
because they, they just, they just were choked up because of emissions that, you know, all the, all the smog, you got to have the smog in America. So what they did was they they
they put different diff gears in them and they were able to make them slide and and give them a bit more power and didn't exhaust and a few things and then they work them up a little bit. Question 2 The the current
Queensland Premier has promised what if they are to be re elected? Well, they promised a lot of
things. We're all such Political
Animals. Aren't we?
We are. We are.
Absolutely. We are.
We are. We are built for Chad.
Chad is. This is it something like free
registration or something? Incorrect.
I wish that was a problem. Oh.
Don't play all the cars, David. To open petrol stations so they
can better control the price of petrol.
To open petrol stations. Well, to stations, I think what
Dave was saying to. Run.
What do you think I'm saying? I think you're saying like
government run petrol stations? That's effectively what I'm
saying, yes. That incorrect.
You're on the right thing with fuel, though, Allen.
Allen, to lower the fuel excise or to change it in a way that reflects the kilometres you do. Incorrect.
Damn you. Well, they've also promised to
do more electric buses, which is true.
I deserve. If I wasn't getting it for for
what I said, yeah, I know that. From from Kinetic, they're also
promising to charge coal companies more money and they give it to the peoples, which they're already doing.
To the peoples. Yes, peoples, they're in a
surplus right now because of the carbon tax.
Yeah. Oh.
Yeah, Scotty Doe and try to view our Yes.
Yeah, I had a guess. Yeah.
All I know it's got something to do with petrol but.
Any any guesses guys? Edward Bunting, 20 dough I.
Don't know they're bringing in the new, what do you call it, that fuel that you make in a lab?
Nap A. Few.
Pretty goods. Nap the Porsche fuel.
The Porsche fuel nap it is he is well, he or she has promised a daily fuel cap on price increases with fuel wanting to.
If you can only increase the price every day, like at different times a day, that tends to be stuck to a like A1 price kind of thing. That just means every day is
$2.20 now, yeah? Pretty much.
OK, it it is a he actually. It is a he.
There you go. It is.
OK, Well, that's that's just different what you want.
There you go. Yeah, I, I read the news article
and that that's what they were saying.
But anyway, I, I, I could, I, I could have said the other thing too. David, I, I don't know anymore.
Question 3I. Don't know anymore.
Uber, the the ride sharing company, has announced a global partnership with which automotive brand?
Oh, I heard this recently. David.
David. Toyota.
Toyota's incorrect. You think it'd be Toyota because
they will drive Camry, Alan. BYD.
BYD is absolutely correct, Alan. Well.
See, I was thinking they'd do it with Tesla but I'm like no.
And you're going to electric one.
I was going to say Zebra. Itswish.com.
Tesla. Wish.com.
Tesla. The team move Tesla.
Also team, if you want to sponsor us, we'll take that one.
Scorecheck element one. Everybody else in zero, they are
meeting. Anyone's game?
Anyone's game Question 4 Honda has released the Moto compactor which is a personal scooter. How fast did kilometres per hour
Kinnock achieve alum? 38. 38 is incorrect, but I'll
give you I'll get closest to 38 to Alan Scott. 45. 45 S Scott.
David, I've got 48. David Says 48.
I've even ridden one of those I've.
Got a? Question on the question, Chad.
Yeah. Is it in Australia or just
anywhere? It's, it's, it's like as fast as
it can go, like you know, with its, with its current battery and everything that's not been modified.
Modified ones go to like 70 KCR which is terrifying.
Yeah, 42. 42 And last, it is Ed who's who has actually written
one of these. 35. 35 The answer is 24 kilometres an hour.
Closest to it is Edward. Yay.
Gets the point. Bonus question What is the legal
limit of Ed Ed. NK's an hour.
Sorry. NK's an hour.
Incorrect. Did you let?
Me point O five, point O five. You said legal limit.
I wasn't. Fixed the.
Question exactly where you had to let you finish.
Stop answering your question. Give me the answer.
A good point. Bonus question, what is the
legal limit of this that now? Now you've screwed me up,
Edward. Thank you.
Now what? In Australia, according to
Vicroads, what is the legal limit a scooter can go that before being Chad. Chad, 25.
Kilometres 25. Kilometres an hour is exactly
right Chad, well done. So the the Komodo compacto can
go can can you can be ridden for free?
No, you don't have to get it registered.
Which I think is a crock of shit because the amount of E bikes I see that are riding way faster than that, it's crazy.
Let's just make. Scooters riding fast on that.
Well, there's a difference between E bike and scooter.
Yeah, there is. Let's say hypothetically, I know
somebody that hypothetically ran away from the cops on a hypothetically high powered scooter over the other day and got away. His scooter was able to go over
like 80 KS an hour. So.
You. Want to hit a pothole in there?
Yep, have. You seen, did you see there was
a video? I only actually just saw it
today with an electric scooter and the police not here it was in Europe go. He's on a little dyno and they
put the front wheel on it and spin it up and see how fast it goes and it reads out its top speed so you can.
See. So cute.
So like a little little screen dyno.
Yeah, you know, it's probably about, you know, so big the dyno, and it goes to the computer and lets them know how fast it goes so they can book them if it's too quick.
That's hilarious. That's crazy, That's wild.
What is that? Yep, that's what they're doing
now. Question 5 The Toyota MR2 in its
third generation was known as the what in Japan.
I thought it was known. As the Chad Chad Mrs Spider.
Mrs will take that Mrs is correct, Mrs. Damn.
It so the S stood for spider. Bonus question How many
transmissions were offered worldwide and worldwide?
This is worldwide edit. 1. Incorrect Alan.
Alan is next three. Incorrect.
Chad was next. I think David 2 two is
incorrect. Chad, you want?
Were you in? I didn't know that one more than
three transmissions. I want to go 4 then.
Four is correct, Chad. What transmission?
What they offered a 5 speed A6 speed A5 speed sequential and a 6 speed sequential. So they they offered they it was
a it was a weird, weird car, that one anyway.
Wasting their time. Question 6.
Chad you witty by the way score check three to to Allen and Ed on one and Scotty and Dave with you at the score question 6.
The DeLorean DMC12 was originally designed to have what kind of engine in it. Ed.
Ed. Big one.
Big one. Hey I.
Haven't answered properly yet this.
Does your proper answer. That's not it.
AV 8. The Ed is incorrect.
Edward Scotty, Who's next? I plan on putting a super charge
6 cylinder. Incorrect.
David, David. Was it a Rotary?
It was a Rotary. They were originally planning to
have a Rotary put in. Really.
Yeah, that would have been a complete balls up.
The more the more you know you're in that that star, the more you know. Question 7.
Rolls Royce is known as one of the world's leading luxury brands. Back in the 30s, Maharaja Jai
Singh bought 3 and did what with Alan Alan.
He used them to sweep the streets.
He did. Well done, Alan.
He did he. Got snubbed at the dealership.
That's. I've got the point, I've got
that point, I've got that point. Why he?
Got snubbed at the dealership. Give me the point, damn you.
He did he got snubbed at the dealership.
So basically it's a true story. He got he walked in with in in
casual attire and they they laughed at him.
They they said leave pretty much the dealership.
He then rocks back up in full Maharaja attire and basically they were like, oh, sorry, sorry, they rolled up the red carpet for me. And as a big FU to to Rolls
Royce, he made, he made them waste collect and sweep the streets. And then and then Rolls Royce
would were quite, quite pissed off about this.
And then because their, their, their reputation was, Oh yeah, they may think they're cleaning cars.
So after a few years of them having their just just dues of, you know, you know, being used as as these cars.
So yeah, don't piss off. In other words, damn.
You can say it's a Chad move. Is that is that a Chad move?
No. Good.
Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, you'll do that.
So, yeah, that that is that is a true story, ladies and gentlemen. Question eight, who currently
owns Rolls Royce. David.
David. I think it's still BMW.
It is still BMW. Well done.
No. Question nine in the remake Gone
in 60 seconds with Nicolas Cage. What is the car at the start of
the movie to be the first one to be pinched?
Scott. Scott.
It's a Porsche. That I'll take that answer that
it is. It is a Porsche.
What I'm question 10. Why does Porsche have a Prancing
horse on its logo? David.
David. Because I think it was
originally built on a horse farm.
The factory was built on a horse farm.
Allen. Half a point.
It's half. I'll give you half.
I'll give you half. I'll give you half a point,
Allen. All right, it's from Stuttgart,
which is like the logo for their little province is the horse.
It is correct. It is the IT is the Crest that
that is their their local Crest. So I'll give you the other .5.
Thank you, Mr. I appreciate that Mister Allen D Bonus question.
What other horse company has the exact same horse?
Ed Horse Company. Sorry, So what are the car?
What are the car? Company has the exact same
horse, Ed. Ed Ferrari.
Ferrari is absolutely correct, Edward.
Bonus bonus question, why I'll. Forget why Ferrari had the
horse, Alan. Alan, I want to stick it to
Porsche. I don't.
Want to stick it to Porsche? I'd love to give you that
answer, but that is incorrect. Why?
What? Why?
What's the why question? Why does it have the same horse
as the one on the? I read this recently, it was on
the. News.
I already have it. David.
Me the same horse. David Give.
Me a damn guess. Sorry, who's having a damn
guess? Scotty.
Scotty, I think Scotty got. Me, I got a guess.
Yeah. So they use the same one because
it's the stallion. Yeah, I.
Like how he said that, he said. It was such conviction.
Yeah, I got that because Stallion.
You find out that this guy's actually been like, using a little magnifying glass, like you've seen the horses, little, you know, remember, he's like, oh, that's a stallion, all right. Yep, that's.
Right, ready to go. It's a stallion.
That's why they. Came and I'll say that it's the
same. The horse is a symbol of the of
the of Marinello. Where the where the How's it
built? Has everybody had a guess?
I think everybody. 'S had, maybe not.
Yeah, I don't know why. He's.
Ed, have you had OK, you had a guess.
Not for this bonus. I learned about like sort of the
background of Ferrari, although, but I can't make it out to anything to a horse. But was he like a farmer or
something? Incorrect.
I think everybody's had a guess. The answer is it was to pay
homage to the fighter pilot that shot down a German plane in Stuttgart. Whoa.
So and you know, cuz the shoot God had the the the horse in the Crest. They use that horse as their as
their logo now. Look, look, I'm not the biggest
historian, but weren't the Italians on the bad guys team?
Yeah. Well.
I mean, I mean, people tend to forget these things.
It's. But yeah, I think.
Somebody's known to have like a picture of Mussolini and her, like somebody we know. I think you'll find that
Porsche, the horse there is actually a mare.
Ferrari is the stallion. Stallion.
And then you can see. We were going with this.
Where are we going with this? There you go.
OK, Ferrari. Scully I love your optimism
mate, but it's and I love how much you would try to try to.
I'm going to turn the camera because the quiz is over trying to. I love how we had this like a
primary school life education class right there.
He he he think to Mr Ferrari himself what he told me anyway.
But he could. You know, you know, you quite
literally reminded me of that of the of the that Telstra.
Why did they build the grey wall to?
Keep the yeah. It's a time of Emperor Nazi
gore. Beat the rabbits out and you and
you just with such convictions. Yeah, such.
You have poor kids smiling with his red present.
That's Scotty. No score cheques Scotty on one
for exact for that exact reason and Edward on two, David on 2.5
Channel 3 and tonight's winner on a grand total of 3.5 is Alan
Deep Singh. Well done.
Close sack. Close night.
It wasn't close night it was. It was anybody's game.
Skyrim I thank my back for holding out and my knee for not giving out after that injury. And you'd like to thank Scott
for for talking about stallions and and and mares it.
Got me inspired. It did, yeah.
No good. Good, awesome guys.
Well, I think that's a podcast. I agree.
Scotty's golf tip of the week. Golf tip of the week, so talk
about stallions. If there's a horse on your golf
course if something's wrong. I'll.
Check if. It's a you're.
Playing. You're probably playing polo
sport. Mate, Rob Sport, Yeah, You won't
be playing golf, Yeah. I think that's a pretty good
golf tip. It's a great.
Great golf tip. Just leave it there.
That's it. Move on.
I like that. In the wrong sport, David and
you guys do a podcast as well. What's it about?
It's called Auto Retro. It's where we talk to guests
about the cars of their lives. You can find it on Spotify and
YouTube if you want to watch us doing it.
Absolutely, Chad delivery's coming to you.
Yep, just buy something and I'll bring it.
Nice, nice. Don't label it fragile as Chad
will punt it. I'm saying that just like, yeah,
like the full rugby. Throw them into the back of the
truck. Our good friend Rizzi Ross.
Yep, if you're interested in the electric car space, such as, you know, your Teslas or your Timu Teslas, let's see if you Tesla, you can hit our good friend Rizzi [email protected] dot AU,
or probably every single electric cargo in Australia to our list possibly if he's exploring about ones that aren't available here yet. He's probably the 1st man that
we'd know about in the cyber truck I reckon.
Yeah, I can see him in. Yeah, but not yet at least.
Also very knowledgeable about the new car space, so you're not paying too much. Hit him up.
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