Why Dealership & Tunnel Car Washes Are Destroying Your Paint (And What To Do About It)
About this episode
A black Audi Q5 owner gets a dealership ceramic coating, then returns for the first service and gets washed—only to come back with heavy water spots. The host explains why tunnel and dealership washes often cause this: recycled hard water, higher-pH soaps, weak drying, and dirty brushes all leave mineral deposits that bond to clear coat and can even degrade ceramic coatings. He also argues car washes prioritize speed over protection, then offers a simple “two-minute” routine after any tunnel wash plus guidance for safely removing existing water spots without abrasive scrubbing.
Just bought a new car… and after ONE wash it's covered in water spots?
That's exactly what happened to one of my customers with a brand new Audi Q5—and the crazy part is, it already had a ceramic coating on it.
In this episode, I break down what REALLY causes water spots, why dealership washes and tunnel car washes are doing more harm than good, and how to safely fix the problem without scratching your paint.
Because here's the truth…
It's not the car. It's not even the coating.
It's the process.
We'll cover:
- Why water spots happen (and why they're NOT just dirt)
- The hidden problems with dealership washes
- What tunnel car washes actually do to your paint
- The biggest mistake people make trying to remove water spots
- How to safely remove water spots without swirl marks
- Why protection and drying are the most important steps
- How to prevent this from happening again
If you've ever used a tunnel wash, dealership wash, or let your car air dry… this episode is for you.
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Audi Q5
"Daryl just bought a brand new Audi Q5 in black, which is a very difficult paint color to Maintain and keep up"
An Audi Q5 is a luxury SUV. Black paint is hard to keep looking perfect because it shows spots and streaks more than lighter colors.
The Audi Q5 is a compact luxury SUV, and black paint is especially unforgiving because it shows defects like water spots and swirl marks very clearly. In detailing discussions, the Q5 is a useful example because many owners use dealership or automated washes for convenience.
touchless car washes
"I've had so many customers that have the monthly memberships to these even touchless car washes and water spots are a major Major problem"
Touchless car washes clean the car without brushes touching the paint. They can still leave spots if the water isn’t rinsed well or the car isn’t dried properly.
Touchless car washes use high-pressure water and detergents without physical brushes or cloth contact. They can reduce the risk of scratches from brushes, but they may still leave mineral residue if the rinse and drying process isn’t thorough.
oil change
"I'm assuming this is kind of the first service that he took it in for me the first oil change at"
An oil change is regular maintenance where the engine oil is replaced. Dealerships often do a wash at the same time, and that wash can still cause water spots.
An oil change is routine engine maintenance, but it often comes bundled with a wash/detailing step at dealerships. This episode’s point is that the wash step can create paint problems even when the mechanical service is correct.
tunnel car washes
"[261.0s] And so what's actually happening and what is likely happened to Darrell's car? [266.0s] In fact, I know that this happened with Darrell's car is the first problem is that the water that they are using at these [273.7s] We'll just call them tunnel car washes [276.8s] Is usually recycled water."
A tunnel car wash is an automated wash where your car drives through a long tunnel. Because it uses lots of water and runs on a system, it can sometimes leave spots or residue on your paint.
Tunnel car washes are automated car-washing systems where the vehicle is pulled through a conveyor tunnel. They often use high-volume recycled water and standardized chemicals, which can leave mineral deposits on paint if water quality is poor.
hard water
"[331.5s] recycled water [333.3s] recycled water is [335.0s] Very very hard water a lot of minerals in the water [338.6s] That's a whole another thing that we'll talk about is that people confuse water spots with dirt water spots are not dirt"
Hard water has minerals dissolved in it. When it dries on your car, those minerals can leave stubborn spots.
Hard water contains high levels of dissolved minerals (like calcium and magnesium). When hard water dries on a car, it can leave mineral deposits that look like water spots and can be harder to remove from clear coat.
water spots
"[338.6s] That's a whole another thing that we'll talk about is that people confuse water spots with dirt water spots are not dirt [345.4s] It's just the minerals that have attached themselves to the clear coat of your car that are left after"
Water spots are those dried marks you see after water dries on the paint. They’re often mineral residue, not actual grime, so regular washing may not fully fix them.
Water spots are dried mineral deposits that remain on paint after water evaporates. The key detail here is that they’re not “dirt”—they’re minerals bonded to the clear coat, which is why they can require proper decontamination to remove.
minerals left behind
"It is minerals left behind on your car because the job wasn't done thoroughly enough, right again"
Sometimes the water used in a car wash has minerals in it. When that water dries, the minerals can stay on your paint and leave marks.
The “minerals left behind” are dissolved minerals (often from hard water) that remain on the paint after the wash water dries. If they aren’t rinsed thoroughly, they can bond to the paint surface and lead to visible spotting.
tunnel wash
"So think about it the tunnel wash uses recycled water"
A tunnel wash is the automatic kind where your car drives through a long machine. It’s fast, but if the rinse and drying aren’t great, it can leave spots on the paint.
A tunnel wash is an automated car wash where the vehicle moves through a controlled sequence of soap, rinse, and drying stages. Because it’s designed for speed and throughput, it can leave behind water minerals and residue if the process isn’t dialed in.
baking in the Sun
"...and then really after the baking in the Sun drying all the way is really where the problem happened"
If your car dries in hot sun, the water can evaporate quickly and leave minerals behind. That can make water spots set in harder.
“Baking in the Sun” describes how heat accelerates water evaporation and can help mineral deposits set faster on the paint. The combination of hard water and hot, fast drying increases the likelihood that spots bond to the clear coat.
tunnel with brushes
"if you go through a tunnel... which a dealership is probably gonna have a tunnel with brushes those brushes are really dirty"
Some tunnel washes use brushes to scrub the car. If those brushes are dirty, they can smear dirt around and make the finish look worse.
Brush-based tunnel washes use rotating brushes to scrub the vehicle as it passes through. If the brushes are dirty or worn, they can re-deposit grime and create fine surface marring, which compounds the spotting and contamination problem.
spider webbing
"so now you have you know spider webbing coming in again the blowers don't fully dry the car"
“Spider webbing” means lots of tiny scratches on the paint. You usually notice it when light hits the surface a certain way.
“Spider webbing” is a common detailing term for fine, web-like surface scratches, often caused by abrasive contact (like dirty brushes or improper drying). It’s typically visible under certain lighting and can indicate clear coat marring.
concentration levels
"The problem is is that their concentration levels are at a whack and they [671.6s] Surprise here cheap out on the chemicals car wash chemicals and bulk are extremely cheap"
“Concentration levels” refers to how strong the wash chemicals are when used in the system. The episode argues that incorrect concentration—often due to cost-cutting—can reduce cleaning performance and increase the chance of residue buildup.
car wash chemicals
"So it's actually designed to make the car wash better [667.4s] The problem is is that their concentration levels are at a whack and they [671.6s] Surprise here cheap out on the chemicals car wash chemicals and bulk are extremely cheap"
Car wash chemicals are the cleaning and wax products used during the wash. If they’re cheap or mixed incorrectly, they can leave a sticky film that builds up over time.
Car wash chemicals are the soaps, waxes, and additives used in automated wash cycles. The episode claims that when these are sourced cheaply and used at the wrong concentration, they can leave residue and contribute to long-term buildup.
price war to the bottom
"It's a price war to the bottom in that industry [680.7s] And so everyone is just looking for the cheapest price in chemicals [684.2s] Because they are designed to process cars and process your credit card not protect your car, right?"
A price war to the bottom means businesses keep lowering prices to attract customers. To do that, they often cut corners—like using cheaper wash chemicals—so the wash may not protect your paint as well.
A “price war to the bottom” describes intense competition where car wash businesses cut costs—especially on chemicals—to win customers. The episode argues that this leads to underperforming products that are optimized for throughput and payment processing rather than long-term paint protection.
door jams
"What I've started to notice with these is that buildup will happen over time [697.1s] Especially in door jams, so I have a client that I ceramic coated their car."
Door jambs are the spots around the inside edges of your doors. They’re easy to miss in automated washes, so residue and grime can collect there over time.
Door jambs are the recessed areas around the doors that collect dirt, soap residue, and water over repeated washes. Automated wash systems often don’t rinse these areas thoroughly, so residue buildup can become more noticeable there first.
wiper blades
"Around where the wiper blades go is tremendous because they are using [736.3s] Recycled water hard water recycled water harsh chemicals. It's a bad mix."
Wiper blade areas are a common spot for water spotting because water can pool and dry around the base and adjacent trim. The speaker highlights that the spotting is especially noticeable “around where the wiper blades go,” suggesting contamination transport and drying patterns.
brushless
"Okay, you run it through the tunnel [809.7s] Okay, brushless would be ideal, but maybe your tunnel has brushes whatever for the sake of this podcast"
Brushless tunnel washes use high-pressure water jets and/or chemical sprays instead of traditional rotating brushes. They’re often considered gentler on paint because they reduce the chance of brush-induced marring, though water quality still matters for spotting.
toughest shell
"Grab your softer than softer towels which I sell and grab a bottle of toughest shell which I sell, right? ... Use your soft microfiber towels and wipe in toughest shell every time you do this"
“Toughest shell” sounds like a protective product you apply to your paint. The idea is that it helps prevent spots and makes future washes easier.
“Toughest shell” is presented as a paint-protection product the host sells and applies during the wash routine. The segment claims it helps build protection over time and reduces the chance of mineral deposits bonding to the clear coat.
microfiber towels
"Use your soft microfiber towels and wipe in toughest shell every time you do this if you do this"
Microfiber towels are soft, absorbent cloths used to safely wipe and dry paint without scratching. The segment emphasizes using microfiber to reduce abrasion during the wash process.
paint protection
"...if you take two extra minutes to go around your car add some paint protection again Not only is your car gonna look better, but you're gonna make it last"
Paint protection refers to applying a product that adds a protective layer over the clear coat to make contaminants easier to remove. In this segment, it’s presented as something that helps the car look better now and stay cleaner longer after the next wash.
damage piles up over time
"So much longer and the damage will not pile up and that's what happens the damage piles up a little bit here a little bit here a little ... You don't notice it on the first few months"
The segment describes a gradual accumulation of wash-related damage: small issues may not be obvious at first, but they build up over months. This frames why consistent protection and careful washing matter even if the car looks fine initially.
scrubbing abrasion
"...only Makes more damage now you're literally scrubbing abrasion every time we touch our car We've run the risk of scratching our car"
Scrubbing abrasion means you’re grinding the paint with friction. With water spots, that can scratch the paint instead of fixing the mineral stains.
Scrubbing abrasion refers to the physical scratching/marring that happens when you rub contaminants with an abrasive tool or pad. With water spots, scrubbing can create new scratches while failing to remove the bonded minerals.
chemically remove
"You are not gonna break that bond by scrubbing more. You need to either chemically Or you need to chemically remove that..."
Chemically remove means using the right cleaner to break down the mineral stains. It usually avoids the need for harsh rubbing that can scratch paint.
Chemically removing water spots means using a product that dissolves or loosens the mineral bond. This is often safer for paint than mechanical scrubbing because it targets the deposits directly.
panel was repainted
"Make sure that the chemical isn't reacting weird. It's not doing anything silly that panel was repainted And you didn't know that there is a whole host of things that can happen here"
If a panel was repainted, the paint may be different from the rest of the car. Products can behave differently on newer or different coatings, so testing matters.
Repainted panels can have different paint/clear coat chemistry than the original factory finish. That means a cleaner or abrasive that’s safe on one surface might stain, haze, or react differently on another.
overspray
"Maybe a panel maybe an affected area being aware of overspray I don't want it to go anywhere that I don't want it to go"
Overspray is when the spray drifts onto parts you didn’t mean to clean. That can cause streaks or unwanted chemical contact.
Overspray is when spray mist lands on areas you didn’t intend to treat, which can cause uneven cleaning or leave residue on trim, glass, or unprotected surfaces. The speaker warns to be aware of overspray so the chemical goes only where it’s needed.
dwell for 20 to 30 seconds
"Let it dwell for 20 to 30 seconds, and then I will usually gently wipe it off You don't need a lot of pressure"
Dwell time is how long you let the cleaner sit on the paint before wiping it off. Waiting a short amount of time helps it work better.
Dwell time is how long a chemical cleaner is left on the surface before wiping. The speaker’s 20–30 second dwell is meant to give the chemistry time to break down deposits while minimizing the risk of overexposure.
pre diluted ready to use
"This is important to know comes in two different versions the 16 ounce bottle comes in a pre diluted ready to use version Okay, so"
“Ready to use” means the product is already mixed for you. That helps you avoid using it too strong.
A “pre-diluted ready to use” product is already mixed to a working concentration, so you can apply it directly without measuring. This matters because stronger-than-needed dilution can increase the risk of over-aggressive chemical action.
gallon concentrated form
"That in some cases is not strong enough depending upon how long the water spots have been there So I do offer it in a gallon concentrated form"
The concentrated gallon is stronger and meant to be mixed with water. It’s useful for tougher spots, but you don’t want to mix it wrong.
A concentrated gallon version is meant to be diluted by the user, allowing stronger cleaning capability when deposits are heavy. The tradeoff is that you must mix it correctly to avoid using an overly aggressive concentration.
diluted four to one
"That's why I have the 16 ounce bottle that is diluted four to one that is well "
“Four to one” is the mixing ratio that makes the cleaner weaker than the concentrate. Using the right mix helps it work without being too harsh.
“Diluted four to one” describes a mixing ratio that reduces the chemical strength to a safer, more controlled working concentration. Correct dilution is important for balancing effectiveness on water spots with minimizing risk to coatings and clear coat.
pure magic cleaner
"You won't need to polish the section because of pure magic cleaner. You will need to polish the section Because it didn't remove all the water spots. So sometimes in very very severe cases."
They’re using a specific cleaner called “Pure Magic” to lift spots/contamination. If it doesn’t fully fix the marks, they say you may still need to polish.
“Pure magic cleaner” is presented as a concentrated cleaner used to remove contaminants and reduce severe water spotting before polishing. The host describes it as part of a two-step process: cleaner first, then polish if needed.
polish
"But a lot of people don't need it, but after you do this you may need to polish the section You won't need to polish the section because of pure magic cleaner. You will need to polish the section Because it didn't remove all the water spots."
Polishing is how you smooth out the paint after something left marks. If a cleaner doesn’t fix the problem completely, polishing helps restore the surface.
Polishing is a paint correction step that uses abrasive compounds/polishes to level the clear coat and remove defects like etching or leftover spotting. It’s often needed when a cleaner doesn’t fully remove the damage.
massive drying towel
"But if you're taking it to a tunnel car wash, I'd recommend maybe a massive drying towel Which I will link below definitely a bottle of toughest shell."
They’re recommending a big, absorbent towel to dry the car right away. Drying quickly helps stop water from leaving mineral spots.
A “massive drying towel” refers to using a large, absorbent microfiber towel to dry the car quickly after washing. Fast drying reduces the time water sits on the paint, which helps prevent mineral deposits and spotting.
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