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Renault R5 Turbo
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Renault R5 Turbo 3E
The Renault R5 Turbo 3E is a new electric car that pays homage to the classic Renault R5, a popular small car known for being sporty and fun to drive. This new version combines the old design with modern electric features.
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electric vehicle
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horsepower
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EV
An EV, or electric vehicle, is a car that uses electricity to run instead of gas. They are usually better for the environment and can save money on fuel.
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hot hatch
A hot hatch is a sporty version of a hatchback car. These cars are designed to be fun to drive and usually have more power and better handling than regular hatchbacks.
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0 to 60
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Hyundai Ionic 5
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LIDAR
LIDAR is a technology that helps cars see their surroundings by using lasers to measure distances. It's important for self-driving cars to avoid obstacles.
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Tesla Model S
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autopilot
Autopilot is a feature in Tesla cars that helps the car drive itself in certain situations. It can steer, speed up, and slow down without much help from the driver, but it's not completely self-driving yet.
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full self-driving
Full self-driving is a feature from Tesla that tries to make the car drive itself completely. It can handle many driving tasks without needing the driver to do anything, but it's still being developed and improved.
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Jaguar Fpace
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Volvo EX90
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Porsche Cayman
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Toyota Tacomas
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BYD
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Lexus Lx
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battery technology
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charger technology
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EVs
EVs stands for electric vehicles, which are cars that run on electricity instead of gasoline. They are known for being more environmentally friendly.
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Ford Mustang Mach-E
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Ferrari SF90
The Ferrari SF90 is a super-fast car that uses both a regular engine and electric power to go even faster. It's one of Ferrari's newest and most advanced models.
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Ferrari 296
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Ferrari F50
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Ferrari F40
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Honda
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12 cylinder engine
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hybrid componentry
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mid-engined
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Ferrari Enzo
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BMW F80
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Ford Mustang
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Ford GT
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Porsche 911
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hazard lights
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Toyota Prius
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Tesla Model X
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Lucid Air
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hello and welcome to this carpod I'm
Kenan I'm fleo let's start with the news
first news story is this thing do you
know what this is It's looks like a Rena
R5 I imagine you're going to say it has
9 million horsepower and it's electric
it's electric It's A Renault R5 turbo 3E
so a couple years ago Renault said we're
going to rebuild the R5 which is like
which was a hot hatch was regular hatch
in the and then the R5 turbo was a hot
hatch in turbos the 8S Legend truly they
said they're G to do this and then they
nobody believed them because it was like
an auto show as a concept C and then
they built the R5 which is like a retro
Inspire Eevee and they have finally
given given details on what the turbo 3E
is which is this wild version that they
will
produce uh 1980 units of are they
actually going to build it yes they
going to like this and they're going to
build this yes although they've said
that it's going to be very customizable
the interior will be very customizable
it's fully electric howly electric it is
500 40 something horsepower rear wheel
drive not all-wheel drive wow like
legitimately notable it has two Motors
one in each wheel uh and it's fully rear
wheel drive and it's so does it do the
shifting like the ionic 5n I don't know
if it does this is the first desirable
electric car it's desirable period look
at it it's cool as hell it's 540
horsepower it weighs 3200 lb which for
an an Eevee with 250 M of range and two
Motors and two that's really light yeah
and it's like a true wild look looking
hot hatch yeah like it looks cool it
looks pretty it looks pretty true to the
OG yeah it really does under 3.5 seconds
0 to 60 is what they're quoting 168 mph
top speed unfortunately what it will not
do compared to the OG is try to kill you
I
drove it's a reir will drive 540 car but
the the physics issue with the OG was
that it had the motor back there to be
clear it's not a Cleo V6 but it's the
same idea and was just the newer version
of the R5 turbo but they it's the same
20 years later yeah yeah it still was
was was Killy uh anyway this thing is
really really cool and I love it I love
the wheels I love it so much they're
going to build almost 2,000 of them
unfortunately not for the us we'll never
see one in the US we'll never see one in
Europe because we go to places that are
desirable not rich uh and therefore
we'll never see one but only the French
will have them no it's very cool I think
it is very cool it's sad that it can't
come to the US although it would be able
to bypass the epa's 21 year exemption so
it could come to the US tomorrow but
unfortunately nit is still going to
screw us there are two things that stop
the cars from coming in the EPA has 21
years and N has 25 n that's 25 25 is the
screwer on this car but DPA it's it's a
what an interesting distinction to make
in this specific case in 25 years we'll
see this car in the US I have no
doubt I have some doubts but yeah
nonetheless wow that is the coolest EV
that has ever existed do you agree if it
does the Shifty thing like the ionic 5
yeah would but it's just I love that
it's re that it's rear wheel drive yes I
that just I they're clearly trying to go
for something and The Styling looks
incredible some mod to turn the light
these lights yellow like the yellow so
cool so cool the interior photos by the
way are which we don't have up so cool I
want to see an interior photo what does
it it's the R5 turbo 3E R5 turbo 3
interior I don't know why you miss the e
but it's okay yeah I don't know that's
that's I think the E is actually pretty
important to the is that it no I've seen
a different different photo type the e
instead of the instead of a period I
don't know how that
happened oh it's just like is that it
that might be yeah there's different
version floting around con that's
concept this is this is it yeah it says
production but then there's also really
cool seats well how uh that there is a
giant uh parking brake in the middle
emergency break in the middle so you can
pull for a drift it's so cool I love
that they're being so playful with it
and the coolest EV yet to exist okay
back to our news next news story is Mark
Rober I love Mark Rober Mark Rober is a
YouTuber he makes videos on the internet
much like myself and as if you have a
young child you might discover he
creates like engineering kits that are
really aimed at kids from like five to
15 so he's like an engineering YouTuber
he makes a lot of cool engineering
videos and he just did this video this
has been a big deal this week where he
uh compared a Tesla which has radar
sensors it Tesla's Auto driving Works
solely off of cameras everybody else
uses lar in addition to cameras and he
compared it to a car that has lar yeah
um and he did a bunch of different tests
with it and to see you know what this
whether Tesla's system wasn't was was
safe enough and he basically had like a
kid would the car stop if it saw a kid
run into the road and the answer for the
Tesla was yes but then when you added
rain to the experience and a kid was
running into the road it was just too
much going on and the Tesla ran into the
kid Etc I think actually the Tesla in
that one didn't run into the kid but
with fog there ran to the kid with fog
but the best one was this where he
actually created a fake Road on a on a
sheet ahead of the carot sty Wy coyote
style to see if the Tesla would run into
the road the cars with liar see this as
an object and don't hit it but the Tesla
did run into the road smashed right into
this giant this giant great consumer
advice who hasn't run a wildy coyote
experience in their I certainly have I
know to stop but it it is it is f to see
the difference between the approaches
for to just see it all tested and
actually truth truth be told the real
world application of this video I think
is minimal I don't know kids run out of
the street in heavy fog there are
certainly situations where it's probably
happened the point say is Elon Musk has
made a and Tesla's Engineers have made a
really big point of they used to use lar
in some of their earlier Model S systems
they got rid of that and and have said
repeatedly cameras are good enough what
this demonstrates is that in Edge
certainly in edge cases where there's a
fake wall road but also in situations
where that is Edge situations where
visibility is low so snowy snow rain fog
other related events lar still has a
really substantial benefit because
cameras can only see really what less
than you as a human can see yeah and so
their visibility is not improved in the
it was interesting given how Tesla sells
this product full self-driving you see
some limitations in edge cases I will
say in concurrence with Tesla honestly
um it probably is good enough in most
situations sure there's a big difference
between is it good enough for normal and
does it match would they claim the
benefits of the cameras versus l r r
answer to that second question is no is
it good enough for normal driving sure
unless you're trusting it to also drive
in the rain or I will say he also did
give Tesla a big benefit in this test he
allowed the cars to be running on
autopilot when he did the test did you
notice that whereas the lar car
presumably was not running on any sort
of thing it was just using the lar
sensors now I would do want if it was
running on full self-driving if that
would change things at all probably it's
still camera based and probably wouldn't
have had an effect regardless it doesn't
work all that well in these edge cases
the edge cases are really edgy in this
situation and certainly I mean Mark
Rober tried to make it good television
good YouTuber and so you need to run
over a child a fake child but a child
there is ample evidence that Tesla is
not great at identifying things in Rain
cuz that the rain does mess with cameras
and you've also seen a lot of cases or
at least a few cases of them hitting
stationary objects yeah fire vehicles
things that are reflective which makes
sense because the camera can't process
don't those Whos those fpace Whos
sometimes stuff eyce almost never
because lar just shows that it's an
object you can determine is this
something I shouldn't hit way more
effectively now lar is way more
expensive right and soid part of the
problem is it's heinous the lar sensors
in AO and any auton full autonomous car
are heinous even on the ex9 even on the
ex90 looks like a taxi symbol a taxi
sign hey ex90
there are on the front it does pull up
an ex90 I'm I'm aware I'm aware there
are inet and there have long been inet
Tesla's gone all in on cameras and you
click on this this is their press photo
look at that it has a damn taxi light on
the on the it does you want a hail an
ex90 you go ahead and which by the way
here here's the Counterpoint against
what I'm saying those exist not in use
by any Volvo system currently yeah I
know well although I did name ex90 Car
of the Year despite it the fact because
they promised me it would exist
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BMW here are some BMWs that are
manufactured in Mexico and BMW has
announced today that when the tariffs
the Trump administration's crazy tariff
serious uh it's kind of ugly when the
tariffs go into effect BMW is going to
price protect the cars for one month so
these BMWs which will be tariffed at the
new rate of God knows what 25% the
theory but it changes with with the
winds uh these BMWs are going to become
incredibly more expensive for BMW to
make and for one month BMW is going to
price protected now after that they
basically they didn't outright say it
they said we will re-evaluate but the
implication is they will not and so
that's going to change the pricing of
these vehicles quickly it's the the oems
will have to change pricing and whether
they change just pricing on impacted
vehicles or whether they change pricing
on their entire model line to make the
savings equivalent for them it's going
to be inevitable you can't eat 25%
increases you can't eat 25% there's just
no way they got 25% of cost in this car
so you have to pass some of it along to
the consumer which every Economist
agrees will happen uh it's interesting
they're doing this clearly they think
that they're either going to be very
shortlived yep or they think that
there's some benefit once they go into
effect to waiting a month and trying to
get additional sales that month it's one
of the two it's an interesting situation
I presume all of this car's competitors
are not in Canada or Mexico I wouldn't I
who knows some components are but are
are are Cayman like are European cars
also targeted the moment no but there
are tariffs that impact Europe and so I
would not be shocked if that changes
this whole thing is a complete disaster
it's going to be a real disaster for the
Auto industry and and I understand
Trump's idea of trying to get
manufacturing jobs back to the US that's
not going to happen by April 1 I mean
the concept of it is so silly and if
these tariffs go into effect this is
going to be incredibly Dam you know it's
funny because president Trump ran on one
of the things he ran on was the previous
guy increased the prices of stuff yeah
um will inflation increase prices
there's no way around
it yikes unless except for cases where
the manufacturer is willing to eat that
entire
cost for long there's no point doing it
for long they're not selling cars for
practice also like you know the other
part they probably have a month of
inventory in the US they're not actually
they're not going eat a single um no but
I presume it's it's going to be based on
when the car came over and maybe they
base it on I who knows how they're going
to even do what they just what they said
or how president Trump's going to do it
the whole thing's insane uh and it'll be
interesting to see how these cars are
affected and Tacomas and everything else
uh credit to BMW they got a positive
news story out of it they got a positive
news story a brief positive new story
from doing no to be clear no automaker
has said exactly what new pring would be
under the ter automakers don't know
what's going to happen I think a lot of
these automakers are still thinking it
isn't going to happen and I I'm
increasingly thinking that it might uh
okay next news story please ah yes some
sort of electric vehicle in China must
be fleo
story this is this is a byd are you
familiar of course build your dreams I
build my dreams um they on the Lexus LX
configurator godamn right they announced
this week that they've had a
breakthrough in a combination of Battery
Technology and like charger technology
basically where they're rolling out two
vehicles that are actively for sale
right now or will be shortly in China
that will be able to to to do one
megawatt charging so th000 kilowatt
charging right now the fastest basically
what that means is that they'll be able
to charge uh something like 250 M of
range in 5 minutes think about that yeah
if you can charge 250 in 5 minutes
that's it that's on par there are no
more boundaries to EVS at that point
except like we don't like how they sound
we don't like how they look whatever
which are reasonable well they're no
bound but it's done there no more
boundaries for the user experience yeah
it's there are a lot of boundaries in
terms of infrastructure to support
charging that can do byd is rolling out
for the first time ever their own
charging Network in China because they
recognize that there aren't Chargers
that can do a lot of people whenever the
charging electric cars come up a lot of
a lot of misinformed people like the
grid the grid but in this case what
about the grid I can't get a megawatt at
my house no no so like is this even
beneficial there's a reason the byd is
building a charging Network because
presumably they can put them places
where the but every time I go to one of
these EV launches the automakers always
say to me that 92% of consumers do 92%
of their charging at
so like the charg networks appreciate it
if you could do it in 5 minutes maybe
you wouldn't necessarily charge it home
right that's exactly right then it would
eliminate that fear that people have of
like I want to do 500 miles and I can't
do a road well it's like well
minutes I would like be amazing but
fundamentally you stop at a gas station
pumping isn't a full five minutes unless
you're in a count but it's
close yesterday I had the in California
yesterday it took me 20 minutes to get
five gallons and so much fuel got onto
the
ground misguided California BS Poli for
those that don't know in California gas
nozzles need to have like a little tube
thing that needs to be engaged to SE on
the fuel nozzle that go that goes into
the car to make sure that fuel and fuel
Vapors don't go everywhere which is
totally reasonable and scientifically
makes brilliant sense but like so many
bad California policies they don't think
about the 5% of people for whom this
screws and it screws all vintage car
owners and so when you try to stick the
fuel no into the car well I don't know
2% it regardless I guarantee that I got
more fuel on the ground at The Filling
Station by my house yesterday then all
of the fuel nozzles in San Diego County
saved yesterday there's nothing I can do
and dude I tried every different every
different combination of possibility it
just doesn't work for old car probably
isn't advisable but isn't there some
sort of attachment people like vintage
car owners have to like it would be nice
if there was I could fill a gas can and
then put it in the car but like I'm just
trying to fill up my damn car and yes
some Vapors will go out because I have a
vintage car but instead I'm telling you
a of fuel a court of gas let me tell you
something have you been behind your car
when it's running there's a lot of vapor
coming out the back of that car trash
policy but anyway uh regardless but byd
will save us all that is a really
notable charging speed improvement with
some Battery tech Improvement but
fundamentally more like charging
technology and like how they do motors
for charging may I question yeah do we
believe them good question yeah remember
that they remember they told us they
made that electric car that jumps yeah
that deep AI deep fake e to their credit
is one of the most well-known EV Brands
legitimately the market believes them
their stock went up notably I I do think
that there is Tesla lies all the time
and their stock always goes up it's a
great situation I I think that accurate
I this that I believe this actually
accurate I would be way more skeptical
if on to I would be way more skeptical
if they said they had some like large
Battery Technology development change
that's not what this was it was a bunch
of incremental improvements to existing
like how you charge an EV well and so I
do believe them and it's exciting that
that is a there are already cars that
youve reviewed the new tyon is one of
them that are on 800 volt infrastructure
Char Char in 20 30 minutes charge there
have been cars that are in like the 100
mile per 5 minute range charging this is
not that big a leap but it is a
milestone for sure if if it's doable it
goes back to what I've said so many of
these podcasts which is the Chinese
continue to run with a huge Advantage
because they have these massive
incentives to make EVS in China and we
and the states remain behind if byd
breaks through at 5 Minute charging and
we're still in the Dark Ages with our
Mach e this is another example of why
the US government should be subsidizing
electric vehicles as much as I hate as
much as in some some parts of me the
capitalist in me sometimes hates to say
it we want to win and if they're
charging EVS in 5 minutes they are by
way $35,000 $35,000 car I can charge it
5 minutes and it has a taxi thing in
then in the roof okay next two story
please oh how lovely a a fellow on a
modded 360 with South Dakota plates
seems about right what's the news story
here shock this one isn't actually but
me once again in 20 in the last year 40%
of new Ferrari buyers so buyers new to
the first time owning a new Ferrari are
under 40 yeah I mean a year ago that was
30% yeah yeah this is notable it's it's
hugely notable and it goes back to some
of the stuff we've been talking about
with Ferrari's changes in in their and
how they're making and selling cars
working you know I made this big deal
about how Ferrari is screwing themselves
over because they're making all these SF
9s and selling to people who aren't
going to be able to get the newer the
exotic cars ferar didn't care they're
just trying to sell cars and they're
getting new buyers young which is rare
think about it the people that buy
expensive cars aren't generally that
young Ferrari once said I build my cars
for young men yet only old men can
afford them but the thing is Ferrari has
changed their strategy entirely it used
to be you had to get on a 5year waiting
list to get one they are completely
going away from that they want to sell
cars to people and this thing also says
only 80% of sales are to existing
customers which means that basically a
quarter of Ferraris are going to new
buyers a couple of years ago new buyers
really didn't have access to new
Ferraris and that is clearly Chang they
always had access to California well to
be clear pre California they I think
they're selling a lot of Ro it's clear
based on their sales numbers from last
year that said that they were selling a
lot of hybrids that's the 296
and the sf9 cuz I think new buyers can
walk into a dealer and get an sf9
tomorrow I'm sure they are there are on
sitting around that they are desperate
to get rid of it is interesting I have
said so many times F's changing the
strategy this isn't good for them in the
end I think they change the strategy in
a way that it will still be good for
them they are reaching new buyers it
isn't going to be the Ferrari that we
knew before where you had to get on a
list and there was that was there was
value in that but instead they have new
people coming in who they're selling
cars to there is a real concern that you
guys have voiced before that would there
still be as many children that were
passionate about Ferrari here's a
10-year-old 12-y old I don't know uh
driving a 360 or in a 360 sitting in a
360 sitting in a 360 manual one though
man will that happen will there be kids
that that want to sit in an S of 9 to
the same degree maybe and maybe not but
they'll see more around it's about kids
and more about does the brand get
devalued if they're if they're just
selling cars to anybody who walks in the
door well also to be clear like I think
a lot of kids who fell in love with for
phone love with I I think they've it's
often been the poster cars sure which
means that like so like the in this case
like maybe this kid's dream Ferrari is a
Daytona sp3 because that was the hottest
craziest Ferrari at the time for a lot
of people was the F40 or the F50 uh not
many people had a mondal on their wall
but they sold those to people eventually
the f8 I'm sure will be equally
appealing yeah I'm not even going to
touch that one um but like the I think
that I know I think it will have appeal
it will be different as long as they
continue to be like effective one I
think for the Die Hard Enthusiast that's
like kind of what matters but I really
think though the bigger question is is
less about whether the young people are
into it and more about whether the brand
cheapens Itself by selling more and more
and more cars it used to be that getting
a Ferrari was special you were on a list
for years and it was hard now we could
anybody with any rich person can get a
Ferrari that that definitely makes it
less appealing with the exception of the
really special stuff is still going to
be incredibly hard to get so I think
they have that going for them whereas
like you know m and you kind of get any
of them if you wanted in Elva thank God
take it off Artur any of them so like I
think and so the question there is what
happens to the brand and I think it
remains to be seen but I think Ferrari
is taking the risk that um it's not like
they're tripling their volume overnight
like they're still going relatively
small and they're they're just going to
try to continue to sell cars to people
and make more money it's a public
company that's what they got to do and
they're reaching younger consumers more
people good for them as long as they can
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mine now although this is a diagram of
an engine this is a Ferrari engine
because recently Ferrari filed a patent
for a new type of engine now what's
interesting about it is that the Pistons
themselves aren't circular they're ovals
now the reason this is not the first
time a manufacturer has done this Honda
did this as well they also did with
motorcycle engines and the reason that
it's so interesting is that basically it
makes the engine substantially more
compact the engine the Pistons can be
mounted cylinders can be much closer
together so you can end up with a very
high efficiency engine so why didn't
anybody do this before well the piston
rings are hard to manage and there there
are a couple of other engineering
reasons why it is very difficult um but
what's interesting about what's really
interesting to me about this diagram is
that it's a 12 cylinder engine not a six
not an eight there are 12 Pistons but if
they're trying to make it smaller do you
think they're maybe making room for
hybrid componentry I think it's room for
hybrid componentry and I suspect it's
also room to be mid-engined I I suspect
this engine is going to go in the back
of something maybe a new testarosa but
what's really notable about this to me
in addition to how crazy the design is
and they're like pushing the envelope of
engineering this would be the first new
V12 they've developed since 2002 which
was the s140 V12 the Enzo they then use
that in all subsequent V12 various
variations of it the excep of the 575
and 612 which use the same engine which
was the previous the previous one that
was already the f140 has been in
production for you know a really long
time 25 years and so if they're really
pursuing a new 12 cylinder engine and
it's going to have this Cutting Edge
technology assuming they can make it
work is Ferrari who knows this they
might this p and they can't make the
engine work and they'll get rid of it
it's interesting though because the f80
is using a six cylinder so they're
making a they're creating a 12 cylinder
still but they're not putting it in the
Flagship Car might be in Theona series
and not in thees that's interesting
which that speaks volumes I think to to
us enthus that's interesting so yes they
are making more cars for younger people
or it's just in an 812 successor but
even then you'd be surprised that they
don't if they're making a V12 they're
putting R&D into a 12 cylinder and not
putting it in the big engine size and
performance aren't directly yeah but
having a in my world if you're going for
for Pure you want the fastest car you
don't probably may but having a V12 in
the super car is incredibly valuable not
not where Ferrari is right now they want
they're going after performance they're
going 12 engines are a core competency
engine for that manufacturer in the same
way that flat sixes are for Porsche V8s
are for for Ford with Mustang v12s are
for plus the super Ferraris have always
had v12s with a few exceptions okay but
nonetheless really exciting news can't
wait to see where this what how this
develops they've certainly never had v6s
that is really interesting and now we
move on to our top car segment which is
sponsored by the Lexus LX the Lexus LX I
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caviar which LX do you want I really
thought that was a joke those are the
colors I believed in um okay I want to
start by talking about how me and fipo
saw a laugh folks I'm going to tell you
a story it's a great story look at this
picture this is a picture I took on
Sunday fipo and I drove out to the
desert because God we are we're free
people we can do whatever the hell we
want yep we drove out to the
desert and and so and so we're driving
along in Palm Springs in Palm Desert
there and I tell filipo I say filipo
there's a street Palm Desert Called El
Paso it's where all the nice cars are I
say a couple years ago I was here and I
saw a new Ford GT which is a car you
don't really see on the road I say we
got to go down El Paso he says all right
fine let's go down El so I I turned I
was in a new 911 God knows why it sounds
like a dream it does
does we were in a new 911 driving
through the desert uh anyway so we
started driving like we're on the street
for a block after I had just built it up
as this Street full of crazy cars and we
see this lot for all right so obviously
I freak out as a seasoned former car
spotter right I'm like oh my God it's a
lot Ferrari and fleo was sitting there
like like yeah you know cars are cars
you I don't
know no I agreed I saw so I U-turn and I
go back to it as fast as I possibly can
and then I have to do another sharp
U-turn I do this crazy sharp U-turn in
the new 911 and then an alarm goes off
in the 911 it
goes like and then the the hazard lights
go on like I'm trying to steal the car
because I had just done this sharp turn
it sense we think it was because like it
thought it had been
accident but the turna wasn't insane
like it's what you would do on a track
exactly known as one of the best most
balanced sports cars of all time you did
a hard turn it thought got an accident
alarm so anyway so regardless of this
now the alarm is going off and the
hazard lights are on and I'm chasing
this laot Ferrari down the road like a
like I'm aop trying to pull him over in
my por with a siren anyway So eventually
he parks and actually the the very next
the very next turn in he he Parks so go
to the next are all the pictures in here
is it no just the one oh we don't have
all the pictures they're beautiful
photos they actually weren't uh but the
fow got out of the car it was an old guy
and uh he got out of the car and I don't
really talk to the people I don't I
don't really they have a red 911 chasing
them the going off um but but the guy
pulled over and he tried to go into an
art gallery that was closed and he left
the car sitting there and it was very
exciting it was and then somebody opened
the fuel filler you never see a La
Ferrari on the street I haven't seen a
La Ferrari on the street actually you
and me saw one in Malibu 3 years ago I
guess it was
yeah um this incredible and I was very
excited by the whole thing and I'm still
kind of trying to figure out who is
driving from it was from Chicago and I
have a buddy up there and I was like do
you know this guy and he didn't we got
to do some digging got to do some
digging it was quite a moment well quite
a moment for him for you it was just
another day he didn't care and you know
what I was disappointed by the general
reaction but people oh it's a lot ferari
it's not an F like if you had seen an
F50 people be freaking out it's the
stillest Ferrari super Co what was the
last time you saw Ferrari super car a
couple weeks ago just yeah a couple
weeks ago the island driving down the
street you're in a you're you're next to
a Prius you see 5 million rolling down
the street what was the dude doing it
was a Sunday in March what he he was out
having some fun I'm glad he drived it
everybody should drive their this is the
time we should go car spotting in Palm
Springs one day because in the in the
spring all these people are about to
have to go back to the hellish cold
places they're from okay so they all
have to go back to Alberta and Minnesota
and Manitoba and Illinois and so they're
getting the last little bit of of
enjoyment out of Palm Springs they're
playing the last rounds of golf they're
they're playing their last rounds of
golf again they're playing their last
rounds of golf again they're trying to
convince their wife to let them play yet
another round of golf and they're
driving their live Ferraris man how
special it was
special bet it is it's again not my
favorite of the Ferrari Super C but to
see one just your least favorite I
presume oh don't make count the F oh no
not yet not yet it's not yet my least no
yeah but but it's just special someone
actually using this car as a car it's so
crazy to see now I mean they've become
such Investments I never assumed that
I'll see any of these cars any exct it's
totally insane the battery works
astonishing it's not a dealer that
replaced for 260 Grand is amazingbe
that's why they had a prominent
dealership on the back glad the dealer
did that for them Montana plates like
they all are yep okay uh next to car
story is from filipo you going to talk
about earthwind and fire whatever the
colors were on that no but I do want to
talk about electric vehicles electric
vehicles great lovely have you noticed
that there are for most of like the
higher-end electric vehicles the the
Model S's the model X the Cyber truck
the r1s the
r1t I'm going to run out all those right
help me out here they they all have an
incredibly high performance version yeah
yes the the the the Plaid is incredibly
fast the Lucid air Sapphire is a
$250,000 for electric motor vehicle the
r1s has a three motor and a four motor
version you can't tell any of them apart
from the base version of that car
yeah visually cuz
like right M3 you can tell an M5 you can
tell an R5 Turbo Man can you tell yes he
me when we were driving back from the
desert pull up you know I want to I want
to I want to argue with something
here to the site go type in model 3
Performance model 3 Performance are you
going to go for the plate frame that all
whee Drive folks look at the vast
distinction aob click on this blue one
which by the way has real horsepower and
this compared to a regular model 3 this
car has um I think the wheels are may be
different but you can get Performance
Wheels on a base well um yeah uh you
know uh but like like why does why
doesn't certainly Tesla but I get that
cuz they want to produce the fewest
panels possible but why doesn't rivan
try to differentiate
highest powered r1s which is like a
G63 perform sells a G63 but they don't
tell anybody about it the sapphire
Sapphire midly has wider track but
that's it the sapphire has a few
differences H the tires are so big and
all that even the regular air is so cool
that they don't need to distinguish that
much the rivian are really the best
example type in r1s and it's like wild I
totally agree you can't tell you have no
idea whether you're looking at the large
battery the quad motor all wheel drive
quad motor or the dual motor new one it
is a story green one it is a story out
as old as time from automaker playbooks
if you want people to get the cool
version you put more power in it but
also you make it look cooler so that
that when they're driving around
everybody knows how rich they are and
how cool they're car is right this is
the basis one you can't tell you can't
tell which is like good if you're buying
the Bas one I guess but very bad if
you're spending exra Grand hard to
convince people to spend more because
even the bass r1s has more power than
whatever car they were coming out of so
what's the point of going for the crazy
one if people don't even know right you
need to different rivan take her advice
differentiate the models make them look
different they're going to come out with
a quad I do assume though that the
reason is like you said they're going
for simp production you want sell cars
or do you not want to sell cars well I I
they're selling either way do you want
to sell your highest profit margin which
presumably are the most expensive ones
they are selling either way but you do
want to try to get people to go into
your highest margin cars and assuming
their highest margin yeah well they must
be um and like this is just the easiest
thing in the world they have they really
done the research and found that making
a few new panels and different Wheels is
not worth I mean charging an extra 25 if
I was getting a rivan I would get a base
model and I would just I would tell
people it's a quor even on cards where
you can't that over like your stick on
is it does a Mercedes CL 66 look that
excuse me CL65 look that different from
a 55 W rare model no I don't think so
you saw you saw a V12 Mercedes yesterday
I knew
Wheels change at the Le and there's some
like treatment it's not even body panels
it's just
treat and the EV manufacturers need to
do the same thing if they want to sell
those I agree I think it's crazy I think
it's crazy uh okay next I I think that's
a very I think it's I think it's wild
and I think it's really surprising call
me up I'll help I want to take a moment
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with Jim Farley today um the next thing
I want to discuss during the toot car
segment today is the Lexus LX which
happens to be the sponsor of the to car
segment um I I he that Lexus racing was
about a year ago is the sponsor of the
podcast well yeah we're not actually
sponsored by Alexis I don't think to my
not I don't pay attention to a lot of
that stuff but except for what he does
of course he pays close attention I
bought a year ago I bought a seoa in the
last year I've been talking about how
I'm off cars I now have behind me the
new Lexus LX over Trail they sent it to
me for the week I think just to screw
with me and not because it's a new model
or anything well there was that
component of it I suppose now I want one
desperately I I now wonder if I made a
mistake with the seoa I've been pricing
the difference between the two it's
pretty significant actually for those of
it has everything that the seoa lacks
style why just admit you're always on
cars never off cars you say you're off
cars but that you just lie it's like
it's like the Italian government General
you just lock no no no no look look look
here's the deal here's the deal true I'm
not on cars however I drive around in
the overt Trails LX and I think to
myself I really wish I had this vehicle
and I'll tell you there's a how much
better can it be okay it solves every
problem I have the seoa except the fact
that it's 8 inches shorter which is that
is one of the biggest problems that it
solves SE simply too big remember when
you had the seoa we spent a long time in
front of your house moving the seats
around to figure out could it fit six
people and a stroller and the answer was
but it does that that and that's hard
actually not a lot of cars can do that
in remove that it was actually six
people in two strollers and it was able
to do remove 8 in and you can't yeah but
the problem is the problem with the SEO
is with those extra 8 Ines I actually
don't take it anywhere because it is
simply too large it is too large to
drive around so that would be one PR at
Sol it's also always in four-wheel drive
I hate that the SEO is in two wheel
drive until you put it in four-wheel
drive because it's like how much is it
raining that I should put in for is this
enough um that's stupid there's no other
recie like that I agree no other SUV
like that that explanation for why it
matters to you is also insane I hate the
G cluster situation the seoa it's not
configurable enough it doesn't show me
music they don't even have music on
there I hate um play music in the
car he he has to get a bowl and put his
phone in it and that's how he listens to
me the the ride quality is so much
better in this even though it's still
bof that's body on frame for it's an
industry
term I just it's still body on frame
that is the nicest riding body on frame
vehicle I've ever driven it's still
about 20 times is worse than an X7 but
it's the nicest riding body onicle I've
ever D your that's another thing it's
liftable with air suspension which my
Sequoia is not uh so I could get even
extra ground clearance out of it it has
triple lockers which the does not it has
front rear and Center lockers the overt
tril only and crucially it has how much
extra horsepower uh 20 20 extra
horsepower in the same torque the
powertrain is identical for all in tents
so now why don't you just buy one
because it's 50 Grand more that's a lot
of money okay and second sorry you're
the Sequoia tierd Pro isn't a cheap
vehicle well it was 83 Grand and I felt
that was too much this this 50 Grand
more this is 116 and my sequ is not
worth 83 anymore it's worth 73 probably
so it'd be a 50 Grand math but okay well
that's how it
works wow it's a 50 Grand swap ski now
they offer it in this color called
desert and I know what you're thinking
no it's Earth I'm
sorry that bed almost worked did I make
a mistake here I I this didn't exist
when I bought my I feel I want this car
for the lx600 which is the same except
for the hybrid did exist it did but it
was too expensive and then I was so
worried when the gx550 came out you had
a press car that you would like cuz it
was like a month after you bought the
seoa I was so worried about that I
didn't think it had to be worried a year
later about lx700 AG I mean fair you go
through this stage all the time whether
it's this car or you'll which was
literally a month ago really wanted
there was only one day of that and you
know what the difference with that was
we found out they package on the GLS
doesn't have what I need and the moment
I realized that I never thought about
how deep did you go before you realized
deeper than I wish but it's a whole
thing with Mercedes does the seoa not
just do enough why can't you just be
satisfied with
that looks stupid yeah it does but fa
the too late have you seen the it is
here's the thing here's the thing about
this the thing that may kill the LX
though the thing that may kill the LX is
the self-driving so the
Sequoia I'm going to frame how do I
frame this in a way that's consumer
okay the Sequoia self-driving allows you
to not necessarily be looking forward I
always do of course it is it is less
restrictive in what it allows the driver
closed circuit with a professional
driver he's not looking for it but so so
so for example the seoa the seoa has the
greatest self-driving Tech in the whole
industry and the reason for that is
because you only need to rest skin on
the steering wheel and if you're doing
that it will drive for you it you don't
have to be looking forward this car I
think you have to sungasses if you have
highly reflective sunglasses it's help
just so disturbed by the phrase rest
skin is that well because in theory it
has to be a hand but but what do if you
have gloves on
well I think there it's capacitive so
capacitive gloves would work um but
anyway um the the LX I think requires
you to be looking for I bet
it I think this is a rational thing to
say if I want self-driving I don't want
to also have to be looking forward
I agree we're in a weird period of time
so you drive in that thing selfly and
and and then it says look forward and
it's like aren't you driving like that
would be like asking your passenger to
be hey man no you can't you can't change
the r you got to keep looking you got to
keep looking ahead and your passenger is
like well but aren't you
driving that's a fair
point we're no we're in a weird period
of time where there's claims about the
efficacy of self-driving but the systems
aren't there yet and so and the
legislation certainly isn't there yet so
you're required to be monitored SEO is
just before that the sequ is just before
it all so the seo's got the perfect
self-driving system and the LX I don't
know yet I haven't tested it yet but I'm
going to test it right after this you're
not going to do this because it's too
much money and I'm off cars 50 Grand is
a is a big I'm off cars I'm off cars I'm
not I
just anym it's just it's every and if
it's not this it says oh do I need the
4G tree yeah absolutely need the 4G Tre
do I need the C anymore absolutely
greatest car made those are the greatest
no interest in changing out those ex
then once a month he says this then he
drives whatever it is and he says it's
the greatest he's going to drive to
Sequoya for the first time in like five
months soon and then he'll love it again
uh well you know I would but it's too
big uh Kenan tell us about the F1 race
situation yes I'm so excited so this
summer I'm going to France for my friend
low voice Luke his voice is crazy low
you both have met him uh he's getting
married in L France I'm getting married
in France he sounds like this his voice
is actually hey Canon what's up his
voice is actually that low I'm told that
Luke is a listener he's joined us today
nice to see out there Luke or in your
language nice to see you out there yeah
yeah great to see you too yeah so he's
getting married in France is that even a
legal wedding yes this they're getting
married the US first and they're having
another ceremony there but anyway all
we're basically every all of us all of
our friends are like descending on
France to to to go to this on France yes
in 1944 oh
but like Nick's
here anyway we're yes the whole Band of
Brothers is getting together to
celebrate Luke's Luke's wedding which is
very exciting but everybody has turned
this into a trip and I started looking
around the dates when it was going to
happen and I happen to discover that
spal franos my favorite race Formula One
race of the year is the following
weekend so I looked into buying tickets
and I bought them I'm sitting at the
base of urouge in uh it's like one of
the grand stands there so I can see that
radio will have a park there
Des no no one will understand that
reference I do though Q50 Q50 despite
the fact that it's called Fran archam
and it's in the corner is called orou
it's actually in Belgium where I think
they speak German and if they don't they
at least have the German flag on their
flag well Belgium exists just so that
just so England and Germany can work out
their their differences so so you're
going to the F1 race have you been to an
F1 race before yes this will be my third
I went to I was I went to uh Austin I
went to the Circuit of America several
years ago and then I went with our
friend Sam to his bachelor party in
Montreal in Montreal but this is the
first European F1 race this is like this
this is like taking taking the kunos
back to santagata this is the one uh
this is like for me this is my it's my
favorite race of the year and it has
been for the so I got feted a little bit
last time I apologized to the fans of
Braun racing that I forgot they were the
first team to win like as a rookie like
won complained I I apologize about that
I did forget about Braun um but I've
watched Formula 1 for since oh
I've been a fan so you saw that Braun
that was 09 that Braun won I forgot yes
but it was yes I have I was disappointed
you were disappointed I have never seen
F win a championship my entire life
that's something to think of be 18 years
so wait why is it your favorite race
what about the Belgian Grand Prix well
it's incredibly fast it's incredibly
challenging and the the conditions
change some tracks are faster than
others this one is particularly fast and
Abu daab they got speed bumps it's it's
a slow track no but Austria the curbs
are kind of speed bumps um but it it is
it's known for its speed it's known for
its constantly changing conditions
because it's so big it rains there a lot
and rain is one of the great is the
great equalizer it's known it means that
other teams can kind of get in the mix
and this year already the first Formula
One race was last week in Australia
which I also realize is not where
Formula One always starts the races but
it has been for a very long time uh but
n and it was chaos it was rain and it
was insane it rains in Australia yes
there were there five rookies I think on
the this year and four of them crash but
not only them like experienced driver's
crash out too it was just a melee so
you're hoping for rain we always hope
for rain with form one even if I'm
sitting there drenched but sitting there
at spa watching rain would be crazy I
hope it's not as much rain as it was a
couple years ago when they they had to
like cancel race that but just to be
there like is so cool so if you're going
to spa or if you're one of our three
Belgian listeners who also who we didn't
offend already which I presume you
already turn it on but if you're there
Kennan will be there go find him and
talk to him about m5s I'm going to be
driving a very special car that I don't
want to talk about just yet that I'm
driving to the wedding is it a Linc
Continental oh that be in Europe that
would be wild is it a Lexus LX 700h
overt tril in
Earth rather drive around
Europe let me tell you something when I
was in Europe in last year a year ago I
saw Alexus GX with California plates wow
somebody somebody took Alexus SUV to
Europe okay kenon I'm proud of you I'm
excited for you actually you were part
of the impetus for you you said Ken if
you don't go to do this he was like I
might go to Monaco instead I'm like if
if not the race but just to go to Monaco
I was like if you go to Monaco to see
Rich Russians driving supercars around
at 7 m hour instead of a Formula 1 race
I will personally kill you I'm going to
do them both I'm going to I will still
do that cuz I do I mean you say that
yeah we freak out about you said freak
out about like car shows about seeing an
F40 driven around like you said that ice
when I made that Proclamation though it
was one or the other and I was I if you
do them both that's great that'd be cool
and I think I can do stri guard as well
and see the Porsche Museum and the
mercedesbenz museum and then in Monaco
you might see a CK GTR you never know
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jtr tell us your thoughts did you watch
the video no I watch it of course you
did not yet I've been busy amazing it
came out yesterday I know that about a
million people literally a million ads
filming have seen it I I am not one of
those I'm sorry I'm busy you'll watch
though I got I got coming up and and
there that's one for you I will legit
watch video watch L overt tril video I
only I had one in Earth uh anyway I
didn't GTR video it was really popular
very interesting car very interesting
video huge response just like the asked
in Valkyrie uh which which finished
Ninth at Sebring uh and and I find it to
it did D it na2 car finished Ninth at
Sebring it's going to Lon it's very
important you didn't want to talk about
it but we're talking about it the CLK
GTR video went up it was huge and and um
and I'm glad that that everybody loved
it so much it was a very special thing
um I I've now reviewed an enormous
portion of like the craziest cars and
this was this was definitely one on my
bucket list of cars I really really
wanted to review um huge shout out to
faster LLC that that faster is the
YouTube channel who who had the car and
lend it to me um it's a big risk to lend
an idiot a car we only drove it for a
little bit I didn't push it I don't care
people are like oh you didn't drive it
hard yeah you do it you're getting a $10
million car and drive it hard I'm I'm
out I'm all set I'll watch your video um
but it was amazing also to just show it
off because I think most people have no
idea you know how anything Works in this
car and and and it's it's cool to be up
close with it if the valkyrie is a 10 on
the C which one which got ninth that's
two R you know if if it's number if it's
a 10 in craziness where is the seal the
valkyrie is the craziest thing I've ever
I've ever where does it how does it
compare to Astron laganda the Vanda that
that was so cool man yeah but odometer
under the hood the original laganda you
the no no not the tra I would have said
the tra laganda I I know laganda 80s
laganda and the vector W8 are still the
greatest videos but C cage and McLaren
F1 uh sometimes I'm going to tell you
I'm going to confess something sometimes
late at night when I got nothing else to
do I'll put on one of my old videos it's
a car is insane enough I get it and I
think to myself God this guy is annoying
okay time to move on to the market
report which is brought to you by The
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stuff um all right kenon I'm going to
kick us off can you go to S65 AMG please
yeah we we sold one yesterday and
there's a 2015 S65 mg this has a twin
turbo V12 with 621 horsepower and more
torque than like five of the cars in the
office can bu 73 the mileage on this on
this Beast go
down Oklahoma but it's a incredibly
highly equipped car scroll down to
equipment it has literally any equipment
you might possibly want oh the rear seat
package right and then the executive
rear seat package cuz the regular rear
seat package not executive enough not
executive enough so the executive
package has a power calf rest correct
important filipo doesn't even have calfs
he's he's that
poor I I only have full grown
cows I was hoping you'd make cow license
play V12 a it
is that's available it's the only one
here's a 2015 I65 for pictures go back
to that picture he took the pi this is
so Oklahoma literally went through a cow
cow it might be a calf we don't know uh
it needed the the
support like it's fascinating me how
cheap these are because a 2015 E63 AMG
wagon which is probably the most
expensive like other AMG in is a same
money same money or you can get a V12
with all the equ world 100,000 mile E63
wagon is that part too you're right yeah
the interior doesn't seem that no these
Interiors don't wear you know it's
interesting Mercedes had that horrible
SP of bad quality cars from like 2 like
99 to 2009 since then no one talks about
it but since then Mercedes-Benz
Interiors have become the gold standard
again it is amazing how little they show
where this is a 10-year-old car with
100,000 miles and even in the front it's
amazing to me how little mercedesbenz
interior the pattern helps a lot the
pattern helps but like this this looks
good dude you get into 100,000 M Chevy
Tahoe you got seven holes in the seats
and foam is coming out to a level where
you're worried that your dog is going to
find it and eat it I I do totally get
that so I'm not I'm used to E63 sedans
and S63 AMG sedans being valueless after
a while but this is a V12 and it's worth
less than a much less unique much rare
wagon funny it is funny the
V12 very special they don't hold their
value like it should what the exception
like the g65 the g65 couple of the and
like the pagis and all some of the cars
this m my point my point being like the
Black Series some of the cars this motor
do hold value but it is interesting
given those exist that you can buy the
same motor for not much money and people
are going to say well it's unreliable
well it's probably unreliable in the
SL65 Black Series too I mean it's the
same engine I wouldn't say that the but
those are 350 Grand I would say the
engine is unreliable I mean this one I
I've SE I mean this engine's been in
production for a really long
time turbo2 yeah and yeah clearly gets
miles I I think the other components on
the car might become questionable comp
shout out to the owner for selling it
just before 100K 998 I got a l and R
clearly the panoramic roof is broken
panoramic roof broken flaws go to the
flaws there's not they're not otherwise
not that insane couple accidents tires
and and they got inspected two miners on
the Cara not a big deal I mean but like
like this is not unique if you go back
out to the results we've had other S65
in the same price point legitimately
this is what they how many miles how
many miles on that one that's a nice
9,000 is just what they're worth and I
find that to be insane so there is a
floor you know which one I really wanted
I Begg the guys to take this we thought
the reserve was too high and it was it
didn't sell this blue color is the
coolest thing in the world don't you
think an S65 is cool but they're all
black they're all black silver White
having one that's actually a special
color going past someone at 200 mph in
blue yeah that's like I got a lot of
money and I don't care this is like Nick
rosan should have bought this car yeah
yeah he's afraid of it though right I
agree those are surprisingly cheap this
is 221 but your point was about 222s and
you're right okay Canon you got a market
report for us yes we've sold a number of
very interesting manual transmission
cars recently sold a B12 Vantage
sixspeed which was rare and very special
but this one this is incredibly unusual
so this is an is I always forget the
chassis out this it's
f33 is3 I think is the thank you I knew
it was yeah I knew okay someone was no
BMW's got come on the camera but he
wined oh he
wined The credibility The credibility is
gone with the wink that's just odd but
anyway most people cluding you did not
realize that these are available with a
6p transmission only for the North
American Market though and I really
thought they didn't offer these with I
mean I Knew by the time it was years ago
we had the conversation but I was
astonished yes they are exceedingly rare
and the fact that this one is a color
with a six with a good interior and it's
a convertible I know people want coups
and the sedan was also the m6 Grand coup
sedan was also aable to stick I know
people want the sedan or the coupe but
like and So Cal we want a convertible
and you will never find another M6 with
a boy did the people who bid on this car
knew that and it sold for 42 which most
of these cars now are probably I guess
selling the yeah and like no what's a
tip look at up what's a what's an M6 f f
f yeah 12 13 so let's see uh I mean we
sell a lot of the v10s but we sell an
awful the this was also a manual but it
was a cou we don't sell that many non
turns out here's a here's a grand Coupe
that sold for only 22 and that's the
most desirable bu St so here's here's a
here's one that conver for 20 so they're
worth 20 so they're worth so the the
stick doubles the value of for 25 yeah
so yeah doubles the was the mileage on
the blue one it it's 51,000 so like not
low necessarily uh but so cool it's just
this is I've everybody tells me it's
like oh the DCT is so much I mean it's
true BMW designed this car to work with
the DCT no question but the fact that
these exist it it everybody knew it
would hold help hold its value and boy
is that evident and what a cool car you
end up with you get to row your own in
the crazy this is a car that I think a
lot of people truly would not think I
think most people think that by the time
these Ms came out like these it was gone
but there were m6s there were m5s F10
m5s they did it and they come up very
occasionally ons bring money and they
bring the money admit this is because I
knew it existed every time I see it and
I still walk by and look in the window
go and it's never yeah but if I looked
in and saw a stick I to be clear I
actually like the automatics aot it fits
the car but this is cooler but this is
yeah exceptionally cool okay we got to
move on to questions questions questions
now questions are spored by Kenan and
Ken personally he he wrote us a check
thank you so much no problem uh Kenan is
going to make a personal appearance in
public this weekend at the San Diego
cars and& coffee at Elite finish I want
to say more like the location of the
time I don't have time we got to move on
to questions but kenon I'll be there say
hi to himat about his M5 yes I I don't
bite my M5 will be there too okay first
question uh from Joey 12 Joey 12 Doug
you said your cars are no longer at the
cars in bids headquarters they're at
your new garage at your house can we get
a a video of the new garage no I don't
do I don't do personal yeah I don't need
people coming by I I let me tell you
I've watched enough stradman content to
know you don't want to film anything at
your
house because stradman says people come
by every single day that's a lot go by
kennon's house uh no there great stuff
over there there's great stuff over
there mhm okay next question uh question
for everyone what is a car that
absolutely this is from kenan's side
piece by the way sorry Emily question
for what is a car that absolutely
deserves the hate and what are some cars
that are underated that should be hated
more most mlar the Pontiac
Aztec not be hat should be hated more
not be kind of belov become beloved in a
I do appreciate that it has thank you to
the lopian for helping do that well and
badwood for honest yeah um and Doug with
that review and Doug uh what are other
cars people hate the PT Cruiser do we
think that's over or under hated it's
underated and overhated yeah it's ironic
if you hate it I don't agree with like
that you're hating it too much if you're
ambivalent about it you might not hate
it enough what about Tesla everybody
likes to hate Tesla these days what do
we think about that an interesting thing
since things have changed politically
and Ne musk has become a little more
involved I've seen a lot of I bought
this car before El everybody has one of
those bumper stickers in California
now I've seen hundreds of those bumper
stickers Nick put one on his Bentley he
did yeah well that's that's ncky you
know what you know what car I think is
overhated uh two of them are right here
in the office a Prius the 04 Prius I
think is overated it was a tremendous
hate that car it is a tremendous car it
was great in so many ways regular people
love it I'll tell you why it was because
it was thrust upon us as this thrust
Upon Us by what sell every celebrity in
Hollywood had one to sign you must buy
this car no of course every celebrity
had one to Virtue signal and went and in
doing but then they went and drove
around on their Bentley instead that was
taken it was shoved down who how why
everybody no I agree Hollywood made a
thing of it it was just seen as a weak
like little car and it just and it was
and people hated it and like it car
enthusiasm was going to going to exactly
it was things to come 20 years later we
know that's not true enthusi is car
enthusiasm is flourishing and that car
is such an amazing practical car that
you can get for six grand as long as you
can keep the catalytic converter in it
you might lock that one if you live in
San Francisco good luck to you um I
disagree with literally everything
you've said about the priest except for
the fact that it is regardless of how
much you hate it you hate it too much I
don't hate it personally like I love it
it was a great car for the people you
know one of the things that annoys me
about car enthusiasts is that they hate
on cars that they're not even intended
for you know I Ted my parents into
Alexus RX car enthusiasts hate that car
fine but that my parents aren't car it's
not who it's for and it's actually a
great car for a lot of people and that's
true of the Prius plus you can camp in
them what's the second C
the oh the Juke the Nissan Juke was hat
so greatly in fact it was hated this is
this is this is one time where people
screwed and this has happened a few
times where people have been so hateful
that they screwed over themselves they
hated the Juke the juke's the stupidest
ugliest idiotic stupid hideous
ridiculous car and then you know what
Nissan did after that they came out with
boring trash because they were so put
off by the fact that everybody hated
their cool design they were like fine
we're going to give you the kicks pull
up a picture of the kicks don't spare
all look trash boring bad trash
they over corrected but it is a heinous
car that looks like a bug that needs to
be
squashed the second part of where you
said it's true about how it looks it's
not hideous as a result it's offensive
the interior is the and it's built like
absolute garbage it is a terrible
card a I hated it since it came out I
hate it now and I will hate this is what
happens people hate on cars like the
Aztec like the Juke and automaker takes
a risk and then the aut says okay fine
everybody hates our risk we're going to
go back to making square box boring crap
and then they do and that's how you end
up with the Nissan kicks and by the way
drive around there's Rogues everywhere
the kicks everywhere you ruined us you
ruined our lives they made the R35 at
the same time like they could have gone
down a different path they also had
Infinity to draw from Infinity made
greatl looking cars throughout that
period of time do something more like
that don't just because cheap cheap cars
should be weird not make cheap CS
beautiful there is no such thing as a
beautiful cheap card has never happened
no such as a chap car no thing as a
beautiful car there's so many beautiful
chap car name too The Fat
Panda that is one okay but it's not
beautiful like any of the Fords from the
Aston Martin looking like look all look
great but those cars the the few those
cars are more expensive the Juke is an
entrylevel little subcompact thing that
was trying to mobilize like 23y olds in
their first job and they wanted it to be
cool and quirky and cute like the cube
honestly and then people complain and
complain and so what Nissan ends up
doing is giving us the Sentra and the
kicks and and the Rogue sport the Rogue
sport is one of the great bad things
hoed upon human being but a pretty good
looking car it is terrible but it's a
pretty good looking car is horrible but
it's a pretty good looking car you get
my point cars you want to know
overheated cars anything that was trying
to be cool and weird that people hated
into Oblivion and then we got replaced
with boring stuff those cars are overed
fat multiple redesign fat multipl multi
is the best example of all time quirky
people say don't like it though they buy
it and then you have B and then you get
the redesign which screwed up everything
about the original that we love that
platypus mofa yep yep okay next up some
great questions this week we're going to
do a few more maybe three more uh from
ab62 hey Doug any update on the V8
Signet you want to tell the story yes so
we talked about it recently you explored
it with Nick that the Aston Martin V
there was a signate that was produced by
Aston Martin for One customer and they
used an ASM Martin V8 Vantage it was was
it full just the just the motor
unbelievable they built one car for
this tell the story about what happened
you have said if this car ever came for
sale you would purchase it I would want
to and I do want to and you do want to
well so do other people it transacted
instantly gone which surprise sold in 30
seconds apparently for full ask which
was about 600,000 United States dollars
which yeah it's a lot for but to be
honest I think it's cool as hell I think
it might honestly be worth 600 I I'm in
a position right now where I'm not
necessar trying to spend that on another
car I've got a lot of expensive cars um
the real problem would have and I'm off
cars except of course for one of those
in earth oh my God not caviar if that
one wasn't finished in in caviar or
perhaps Nori finished in Nori
obviously I would just keep it also for
your uses a normal signant probably
would cover it the problem also was that
uh importing it I think for someone
who's off cars going through that
process would have been really annoying
really agitating uh next question uh
from Nick Whitney zero Doug as you love
the cross country drive would you ever
do a Cannonball Run no I abide by the
laws there was a time when I thought
that would be cool but it is long past
can I answer a question that's in here
that you're not going to answer which
question is it there's a question from
Minnesota Joe which is why does the cars
and bids app Rain my phone why does the
cars and bids app Rain money when I
shake my phone did you know no it does
this it's great it's the best folks the
cars and bids app is so cool
that it if you shake your phone it RS
money do it oh it's raining money it's
raining money if you also if you shake
your phone a bunch it will eventually
try why do it do this because we have a
sense of humor yeah you know what I bet
this the kind of thing people are going
to complain about then we're going to
take it out and nobody has ever it
worked beautifully it does work fun and
it it sometimes it pops up when you
don't expect it which is extra like in
that like you like shook your phone but
didn't think I dropped my phone and it's
so fun and I love it I don't usually
shake my phone I've never experienced
this in my life I can't wait to try it
the cars and bids app to download it you
go to no I'm sorry we have to move on
shout out to our designer and mobile
engineer uh Brian and Z respectively who
did a great job shout out individual
people I want to shout out to my mom uh
no let's do one more question or perhaps
too oh from
palae Doug W you don't review the new
Tesla Model y Juniper because you don't
like Elon anymore um dude is this even
out not in the US yet no I haven't
reviewed it cuz it's not available the
cars being sold in China and the dude's
like why aren't you reviewing it yety
Elon Jay Leno I think may have got one I
don't know or like to to to review I
think there's a couple of loners
floating around
barely yet Jay gets all the good stuff
no I'll do it I'll do it by the way
Tesla has massively lowered existing
model y prices or increased did you see
that I was I went on the mod Y
configurator the other day to compare it
against that Audi q6 that I have right
now and um the prices are wild the old
model y you can buy it's like 20 grand
less than the new model y they want to
clear out all inventory before the new
one come which is in the next month and
a half by the dealer the the non
dealer uh situation allowing them to
kind of mess with prices like in real
time is a pretty good situation at the
same time it makes it so public when you
do so and frustrating for people who
paid more five months ago or yesterday
uh okay I want to do maybe either either
two more questions or one more good slow
one to fast one slow ab62 question for
Doug and Cannon is modern Ferrari's
biggest competition coming from within
its own legacy many enthusiasts seem to
prefer Ferrari models from the last two
decades do you think modern Ferraris
will ever be able to capture the magic
of their predecessors my answer to this
question is no I think if you look at
the people who are buying new Ferraris
they don't even know what the old
Ferraris are I drive around my career GT
all the time and people in new Porsches
don't even notice it and I think that
Happ like if you asked a new 98% of new
Ferrari owners to name the supercars
they couldn't like I don't I think that
there are some people who are who could
afford new Ferraris who are buying old
ones certainly there are some but I
think vast majority that is not the case
andly there there young enthusiasts who
are buying them and do know about the
old cars um but no I I totally agree
with that I think it's coming from
McLaren and and other manufactur and
porsa probably and other manufacturers
more so than from within the back
catalog and just buying more crypto yeah
sure uh okay last question this one's
for me and felipo from Big skier guy
what version of the
gmt800 would you buy and there's a
correct answer oh wow oh wow we're
aligned we're aligned would you buy if
you were had to purchase a brand new one
off the lot the gmt800 for those of you
who don't know was the General Motors
truck and suv platform from 99 to 05 06
06 06 uh gmt800 uh largely uh bad
vehicles that run forever no great
vehicles that also run forever no but I
mean they they had bad Interiors they
had giant panel gaps but they are
tremendously durable mofos like there's
not a single one of these that isn't on
the road with 964 th000 mil I know what
the answer is to this you sure do the
answer is okay what are you going to say
let say it on what 3 2 one quad there it
is yep that's it that's it right there
there's a lot of great gmt800 Vehicles
you know what I was going to say s me
one Suburban I would also Z71 bird had
one and I loved it stared at it you you
know one that that you're not ever going
to think of the antier front Suburban
that was only sold in Mexico Kenan pull
it
up God typ gmt800 Suburban I bet it
shows up I saw one on the street here in
San Diego like 3 years ago took a
picture of it it was incredible for me
so so they offered the did you know
about this from that gen
Silverado so the Silverado in in the US
was facelifted to have this front end
that's my picture I took that
picture the Silverado was facelifted in
the US it's too grainy though pull to a
different one the Silverado was
facelifted in the US in like 20 4 to
have this front end but for God knows
what reason CU it's GM no it's none of
these it's only a couple it's this one
one for some reason they didn't facelift
the Suburban in the US uh and but in
Mexico and apparently Latin America
because that looks like Costa Rica they
did oh it's so much worse it's worse but
it would be so cool I would Flex on you
so hard on I had that a Quadra steer
with the the four-wheel steering 2500
8.1 L V8 would be great the answer the
regular Suburban Z Z71 that's the second
looks so or Tahoe honestly a good Taho
good
Tahoe look at that c I know I know dude
when I was a kid that was a coolest
thing in the world but the an eater go
back to the anater I want to see it
again or the cat eye they call it I
closed out of it already you closed this
beautiful vehicle look at this thank you
for watching this week's podcast it's
certainly our beste there are gmt800
fans who are sitting here going I didn't
even know they made that yeah they did
and if I had one I would Flex on filipo
I would show up in the office I'd honk
the horn I would flash the the the non
the hogen running hens unfortunately you
would be be too ugly for you to look at
so you wouldn't drive it it's not an
attractive car I actually think the
pickups were pretty Attract it works on
the pickups for sure they they looked at
this and they said you know this works
on the pickups it doesn't really work on
the SUV let's give it to Costa Rica the
regular g00 is such a beautiful classic
automobile although I prefer the
previous gen which was the GMT 400 good
Jen you're wrong uh it this was
definitely a better vehicle in every way
okay uh that's the answer to our
questions a all of our questions all of
them all of them the most important ones
kenon any parting thoughts this is our
5c podcast this is our 52nd podcast
we've been podcasting for a year and you
want to know something this was our best
episode yet goodbye everyone I got to
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About this episode
Exploring the latest in automotive news, this episode dives into the Renault R5 Turbo 3E, a retro-inspired electric hot hatch that boasts impressive specs and customization options. The hosts also discuss a recent YouTube experiment comparing Tesla's camera-based autopilot to lidar-equipped vehicles, revealing significant performance differences in challenging conditions. Additionally, they touch on BMW's pricing strategies amid tariff changes, and the rise of younger Ferrari buyers, highlighting a shift in the brand's customer demographics. The episode wraps up with lively banter about the unique design of a new Ferrari V12 engine and the hosts' personal car spotting adventures.
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