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hello and welcome to this carpod I'm

Kenan I'm fleo let's start with the news

first news story is this thing do you

know what this is It's looks like a Rena

R5 I imagine you're going to say it has

9 million horsepower and it's electric

it's electric It's A Renault R5 turbo 3E

so a couple years ago Renault said we're

going to rebuild the R5 which is like

which was a hot hatch was regular hatch

in the and then the R5 turbo was a hot

hatch in turbos the 8S Legend truly they

said they're G to do this and then they

nobody believed them because it was like

an auto show as a concept C and then

they built the R5 which is like a retro

Inspire Eevee and they have finally

given given details on what the turbo 3E

is which is this wild version that they

will

produce uh 1980 units of are they

actually going to build it yes they

going to like this and they're going to

build this yes although they've said

that it's going to be very customizable

the interior will be very customizable

it's fully electric howly electric it is

500 40 something horsepower rear wheel

drive not all-wheel drive wow like

legitimately notable it has two Motors

one in each wheel uh and it's fully rear

wheel drive and it's so does it do the

shifting like the ionic 5n I don't know

if it does this is the first desirable

electric car it's desirable period look

at it it's cool as hell it's 540

horsepower it weighs 3200 lb which for

an an Eevee with 250 M of range and two

Motors and two that's really light yeah

and it's like a true wild look looking

hot hatch yeah like it looks cool it

looks pretty it looks pretty true to the

OG yeah it really does under 3.5 seconds

0 to 60 is what they're quoting 168 mph

top speed unfortunately what it will not

do compared to the OG is try to kill you

I

drove it's a reir will drive 540 car but

the the physics issue with the OG was

that it had the motor back there to be

clear it's not a Cleo V6 but it's the

same idea and was just the newer version

of the R5 turbo but they it's the same

20 years later yeah yeah it still was

was was Killy uh anyway this thing is

really really cool and I love it I love

the wheels I love it so much they're

going to build almost 2,000 of them

unfortunately not for the us we'll never

see one in the US we'll never see one in

Europe because we go to places that are

desirable not rich uh and therefore

we'll never see one but only the French

will have them no it's very cool I think

it is very cool it's sad that it can't

come to the US although it would be able

to bypass the epa's 21 year exemption so

it could come to the US tomorrow but

unfortunately nit is still going to

screw us there are two things that stop

the cars from coming in the EPA has 21

years and N has 25 n that's 25 25 is the

screwer on this car but DPA it's it's a

what an interesting distinction to make

in this specific case in 25 years we'll

see this car in the US I have no

doubt I have some doubts but yeah

nonetheless wow that is the coolest EV

that has ever existed do you agree if it

does the Shifty thing like the ionic 5

yeah would but it's just I love that

it's re that it's rear wheel drive yes I

that just I they're clearly trying to go

for something and The Styling looks

incredible some mod to turn the light

these lights yellow like the yellow so

cool so cool the interior photos by the

way are which we don't have up so cool I

want to see an interior photo what does

it it's the R5 turbo 3E R5 turbo 3

interior I don't know why you miss the e

but it's okay yeah I don't know that's

that's I think the E is actually pretty

important to the is that it no I've seen

a different different photo type the e

instead of the instead of a period I

don't know how that

happened oh it's just like is that it

that might be yeah there's different

version floting around con that's

concept this is this is it yeah it says

production but then there's also really

cool seats well how uh that there is a

giant uh parking brake in the middle

emergency break in the middle so you can

pull for a drift it's so cool I love

that they're being so playful with it

and the coolest EV yet to exist okay

back to our news next news story is Mark

Rober I love Mark Rober Mark Rober is a

YouTuber he makes videos on the internet

much like myself and as if you have a

young child you might discover he

creates like engineering kits that are

really aimed at kids from like five to

15 so he's like an engineering YouTuber

he makes a lot of cool engineering

videos and he just did this video this

has been a big deal this week where he

uh compared a Tesla which has radar

sensors it Tesla's Auto driving Works

solely off of cameras everybody else

uses lar in addition to cameras and he

compared it to a car that has lar yeah

um and he did a bunch of different tests

with it and to see you know what this

whether Tesla's system wasn't was was

safe enough and he basically had like a

kid would the car stop if it saw a kid

run into the road and the answer for the

Tesla was yes but then when you added

rain to the experience and a kid was

running into the road it was just too

much going on and the Tesla ran into the

kid Etc I think actually the Tesla in

that one didn't run into the kid but

with fog there ran to the kid with fog

but the best one was this where he

actually created a fake Road on a on a

sheet ahead of the carot sty Wy coyote

style to see if the Tesla would run into

the road the cars with liar see this as

an object and don't hit it but the Tesla

did run into the road smashed right into

this giant this giant great consumer

advice who hasn't run a wildy coyote

experience in their I certainly have I

know to stop but it it is it is f to see

the difference between the approaches

for to just see it all tested and

actually truth truth be told the real

world application of this video I think

is minimal I don't know kids run out of

the street in heavy fog there are

certainly situations where it's probably

happened the point say is Elon Musk has

made a and Tesla's Engineers have made a

really big point of they used to use lar

in some of their earlier Model S systems

they got rid of that and and have said

repeatedly cameras are good enough what

this demonstrates is that in Edge

certainly in edge cases where there's a

fake wall road but also in situations

where that is Edge situations where

visibility is low so snowy snow rain fog

other related events lar still has a

really substantial benefit because

cameras can only see really what less

than you as a human can see yeah and so

their visibility is not improved in the

it was interesting given how Tesla sells

this product full self-driving you see

some limitations in edge cases I will

say in concurrence with Tesla honestly

um it probably is good enough in most

situations sure there's a big difference

between is it good enough for normal and

does it match would they claim the

benefits of the cameras versus l r r

answer to that second question is no is

it good enough for normal driving sure

unless you're trusting it to also drive

in the rain or I will say he also did

give Tesla a big benefit in this test he

allowed the cars to be running on

autopilot when he did the test did you

notice that whereas the lar car

presumably was not running on any sort

of thing it was just using the lar

sensors now I would do want if it was

running on full self-driving if that

would change things at all probably it's

still camera based and probably wouldn't

have had an effect regardless it doesn't

work all that well in these edge cases

the edge cases are really edgy in this

situation and certainly I mean Mark

Rober tried to make it good television

good YouTuber and so you need to run

over a child a fake child but a child

there is ample evidence that Tesla is

not great at identifying things in Rain

cuz that the rain does mess with cameras

and you've also seen a lot of cases or

at least a few cases of them hitting

stationary objects yeah fire vehicles

things that are reflective which makes

sense because the camera can't process

don't those Whos those fpace Whos

sometimes stuff eyce almost never

because lar just shows that it's an

object you can determine is this

something I shouldn't hit way more

effectively now lar is way more

expensive right and soid part of the

problem is it's heinous the lar sensors

in AO and any auton full autonomous car

are heinous even on the ex9 even on the

ex90 looks like a taxi symbol a taxi

sign hey ex90

there are on the front it does pull up

an ex90 I'm I'm aware I'm aware there

are inet and there have long been inet

Tesla's gone all in on cameras and you

click on this this is their press photo

look at that it has a damn taxi light on

the on the it does you want a hail an

ex90 you go ahead and which by the way

here here's the Counterpoint against

what I'm saying those exist not in use

by any Volvo system currently yeah I

know well although I did name ex90 Car

of the Year despite it the fact because

they promised me it would exist

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BMW here are some BMWs that are

manufactured in Mexico and BMW has

announced today that when the tariffs

the Trump administration's crazy tariff

serious uh it's kind of ugly when the

tariffs go into effect BMW is going to

price protect the cars for one month so

these BMWs which will be tariffed at the

new rate of God knows what 25% the

theory but it changes with with the

winds uh these BMWs are going to become

incredibly more expensive for BMW to

make and for one month BMW is going to

price protected now after that they

basically they didn't outright say it

they said we will re-evaluate but the

implication is they will not and so

that's going to change the pricing of

these vehicles quickly it's the the oems

will have to change pricing and whether

they change just pricing on impacted

vehicles or whether they change pricing

on their entire model line to make the

savings equivalent for them it's going

to be inevitable you can't eat 25%

increases you can't eat 25% there's just

no way they got 25% of cost in this car

so you have to pass some of it along to

the consumer which every Economist

agrees will happen uh it's interesting

they're doing this clearly they think

that they're either going to be very

shortlived yep or they think that

there's some benefit once they go into

effect to waiting a month and trying to

get additional sales that month it's one

of the two it's an interesting situation

I presume all of this car's competitors

are not in Canada or Mexico I wouldn't I

who knows some components are but are

are are Cayman like are European cars

also targeted the moment no but there

are tariffs that impact Europe and so I

would not be shocked if that changes

this whole thing is a complete disaster

it's going to be a real disaster for the

Auto industry and and I understand

Trump's idea of trying to get

manufacturing jobs back to the US that's

not going to happen by April 1 I mean

the concept of it is so silly and if

these tariffs go into effect this is

going to be incredibly Dam you know it's

funny because president Trump ran on one

of the things he ran on was the previous

guy increased the prices of stuff yeah

um will inflation increase prices

there's no way around

it yikes unless except for cases where

the manufacturer is willing to eat that

entire

cost for long there's no point doing it

for long they're not selling cars for

practice also like you know the other

part they probably have a month of

inventory in the US they're not actually

they're not going eat a single um no but

I presume it's it's going to be based on

when the car came over and maybe they

base it on I who knows how they're going

to even do what they just what they said

or how president Trump's going to do it

the whole thing's insane uh and it'll be

interesting to see how these cars are

affected and Tacomas and everything else

uh credit to BMW they got a positive

news story out of it they got a positive

news story a brief positive new story

from doing no to be clear no automaker

has said exactly what new pring would be

under the ter automakers don't know

what's going to happen I think a lot of

these automakers are still thinking it

isn't going to happen and I I'm

increasingly thinking that it might uh

okay next news story please ah yes some

sort of electric vehicle in China must

be fleo

story this is this is a byd are you

familiar of course build your dreams I

build my dreams um they on the Lexus LX

configurator godamn right they announced

this week that they've had a

breakthrough in a combination of Battery

Technology and like charger technology

basically where they're rolling out two

vehicles that are actively for sale

right now or will be shortly in China

that will be able to to to do one

megawatt charging so th000 kilowatt

charging right now the fastest basically

what that means is that they'll be able

to charge uh something like 250 M of

range in 5 minutes think about that yeah

if you can charge 250 in 5 minutes

that's it that's on par there are no

more boundaries to EVS at that point

except like we don't like how they sound

we don't like how they look whatever

which are reasonable well they're no

bound but it's done there no more

boundaries for the user experience yeah

it's there are a lot of boundaries in

terms of infrastructure to support

charging that can do byd is rolling out

for the first time ever their own

charging Network in China because they

recognize that there aren't Chargers

that can do a lot of people whenever the

charging electric cars come up a lot of

a lot of misinformed people like the

grid the grid but in this case what

about the grid I can't get a megawatt at

my house no no so like is this even

beneficial there's a reason the byd is

building a charging Network because

presumably they can put them places

where the but every time I go to one of

these EV launches the automakers always

say to me that 92% of consumers do 92%

of their charging at

so like the charg networks appreciate it

if you could do it in 5 minutes maybe

you wouldn't necessarily charge it home

right that's exactly right then it would

eliminate that fear that people have of

like I want to do 500 miles and I can't

do a road well it's like well

minutes I would like be amazing but

fundamentally you stop at a gas station

pumping isn't a full five minutes unless

you're in a count but it's

close yesterday I had the in California

yesterday it took me 20 minutes to get

five gallons and so much fuel got onto

the

ground misguided California BS Poli for

those that don't know in California gas

nozzles need to have like a little tube

thing that needs to be engaged to SE on

the fuel nozzle that go that goes into

the car to make sure that fuel and fuel

Vapors don't go everywhere which is

totally reasonable and scientifically

makes brilliant sense but like so many

bad California policies they don't think

about the 5% of people for whom this

screws and it screws all vintage car

owners and so when you try to stick the

fuel no into the car well I don't know

2% it regardless I guarantee that I got

more fuel on the ground at The Filling

Station by my house yesterday then all

of the fuel nozzles in San Diego County

saved yesterday there's nothing I can do

and dude I tried every different every

different combination of possibility it

just doesn't work for old car probably

isn't advisable but isn't there some

sort of attachment people like vintage

car owners have to like it would be nice

if there was I could fill a gas can and

then put it in the car but like I'm just

trying to fill up my damn car and yes

some Vapors will go out because I have a

vintage car but instead I'm telling you

a of fuel a court of gas let me tell you

something have you been behind your car

when it's running there's a lot of vapor

coming out the back of that car trash

policy but anyway uh regardless but byd

will save us all that is a really

notable charging speed improvement with

some Battery tech Improvement but

fundamentally more like charging

technology and like how they do motors

for charging may I question yeah do we

believe them good question yeah remember

that they remember they told us they

made that electric car that jumps yeah

that deep AI deep fake e to their credit

is one of the most well-known EV Brands

legitimately the market believes them

their stock went up notably I I do think

that there is Tesla lies all the time

and their stock always goes up it's a

great situation I I think that accurate

I this that I believe this actually

accurate I would be way more skeptical

if on to I would be way more skeptical

if they said they had some like large

Battery Technology development change

that's not what this was it was a bunch

of incremental improvements to existing

like how you charge an EV well and so I

do believe them and it's exciting that

that is a there are already cars that

youve reviewed the new tyon is one of

them that are on 800 volt infrastructure

Char Char in 20 30 minutes charge there

have been cars that are in like the 100

mile per 5 minute range charging this is

not that big a leap but it is a

milestone for sure if if it's doable it

goes back to what I've said so many of

these podcasts which is the Chinese

continue to run with a huge Advantage

because they have these massive

incentives to make EVS in China and we

and the states remain behind if byd

breaks through at 5 Minute charging and

we're still in the Dark Ages with our

Mach e this is another example of why

the US government should be subsidizing

electric vehicles as much as I hate as

much as in some some parts of me the

capitalist in me sometimes hates to say

it we want to win and if they're

charging EVS in 5 minutes they are by

way $35,000 $35,000 car I can charge it

5 minutes and it has a taxi thing in

then in the roof okay next two story

please oh how lovely a a fellow on a

modded 360 with South Dakota plates

seems about right what's the news story

here shock this one isn't actually but

me once again in 20 in the last year 40%

of new Ferrari buyers so buyers new to

the first time owning a new Ferrari are

under 40 yeah I mean a year ago that was

30% yeah yeah this is notable it's it's

hugely notable and it goes back to some

of the stuff we've been talking about

with Ferrari's changes in in their and

how they're making and selling cars

working you know I made this big deal

about how Ferrari is screwing themselves

over because they're making all these SF

9s and selling to people who aren't

going to be able to get the newer the

exotic cars ferar didn't care they're

just trying to sell cars and they're

getting new buyers young which is rare

think about it the people that buy

expensive cars aren't generally that

young Ferrari once said I build my cars

for young men yet only old men can

afford them but the thing is Ferrari has

changed their strategy entirely it used

to be you had to get on a 5year waiting

list to get one they are completely

going away from that they want to sell

cars to people and this thing also says

only 80% of sales are to existing

customers which means that basically a

quarter of Ferraris are going to new

buyers a couple of years ago new buyers

really didn't have access to new

Ferraris and that is clearly Chang they

always had access to California well to

be clear pre California they I think

they're selling a lot of Ro it's clear

based on their sales numbers from last

year that said that they were selling a

lot of hybrids that's the 296

and the sf9 cuz I think new buyers can

walk into a dealer and get an sf9

tomorrow I'm sure they are there are on

sitting around that they are desperate

to get rid of it is interesting I have

said so many times F's changing the

strategy this isn't good for them in the

end I think they change the strategy in

a way that it will still be good for

them they are reaching new buyers it

isn't going to be the Ferrari that we

knew before where you had to get on a

list and there was that was there was

value in that but instead they have new

people coming in who they're selling

cars to there is a real concern that you

guys have voiced before that would there

still be as many children that were

passionate about Ferrari here's a

10-year-old 12-y old I don't know uh

driving a 360 or in a 360 sitting in a

360 sitting in a 360 manual one though

man will that happen will there be kids

that that want to sit in an S of 9 to

the same degree maybe and maybe not but

they'll see more around it's about kids

and more about does the brand get

devalued if they're if they're just

selling cars to anybody who walks in the

door well also to be clear like I think

a lot of kids who fell in love with for

phone love with I I think they've it's

often been the poster cars sure which

means that like so like the in this case

like maybe this kid's dream Ferrari is a

Daytona sp3 because that was the hottest

craziest Ferrari at the time for a lot

of people was the F40 or the F50 uh not

many people had a mondal on their wall

but they sold those to people eventually

the f8 I'm sure will be equally

appealing yeah I'm not even going to

touch that one um but like the I think

that I know I think it will have appeal

it will be different as long as they

continue to be like effective one I

think for the Die Hard Enthusiast that's

like kind of what matters but I really

think though the bigger question is is

less about whether the young people are

into it and more about whether the brand

cheapens Itself by selling more and more

and more cars it used to be that getting

a Ferrari was special you were on a list

for years and it was hard now we could

anybody with any rich person can get a

Ferrari that that definitely makes it

less appealing with the exception of the

really special stuff is still going to

be incredibly hard to get so I think

they have that going for them whereas

like you know m and you kind of get any

of them if you wanted in Elva thank God

take it off Artur any of them so like I

think and so the question there is what

happens to the brand and I think it

remains to be seen but I think Ferrari

is taking the risk that um it's not like

they're tripling their volume overnight

like they're still going relatively

small and they're they're just going to

try to continue to sell cars to people

and make more money it's a public

company that's what they got to do and

they're reaching younger consumers more

people good for them as long as they can

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mine now although this is a diagram of

an engine this is a Ferrari engine

because recently Ferrari filed a patent

for a new type of engine now what's

interesting about it is that the Pistons

themselves aren't circular they're ovals

now the reason this is not the first

time a manufacturer has done this Honda

did this as well they also did with

motorcycle engines and the reason that

it's so interesting is that basically it

makes the engine substantially more

compact the engine the Pistons can be

mounted cylinders can be much closer

together so you can end up with a very

high efficiency engine so why didn't

anybody do this before well the piston

rings are hard to manage and there there

are a couple of other engineering

reasons why it is very difficult um but

what's interesting about what's really

interesting to me about this diagram is

that it's a 12 cylinder engine not a six

not an eight there are 12 Pistons but if

they're trying to make it smaller do you

think they're maybe making room for

hybrid componentry I think it's room for

hybrid componentry and I suspect it's

also room to be mid-engined I I suspect

this engine is going to go in the back

of something maybe a new testarosa but

what's really notable about this to me

in addition to how crazy the design is

and they're like pushing the envelope of

engineering this would be the first new

V12 they've developed since 2002 which

was the s140 V12 the Enzo they then use

that in all subsequent V12 various

variations of it the excep of the 575

and 612 which use the same engine which

was the previous the previous one that

was already the f140 has been in

production for you know a really long

time 25 years and so if they're really

pursuing a new 12 cylinder engine and

it's going to have this Cutting Edge

technology assuming they can make it

work is Ferrari who knows this they

might this p and they can't make the

engine work and they'll get rid of it

it's interesting though because the f80

is using a six cylinder so they're

making a they're creating a 12 cylinder

still but they're not putting it in the

Flagship Car might be in Theona series

and not in thees that's interesting

which that speaks volumes I think to to

us enthus that's interesting so yes they

are making more cars for younger people

or it's just in an 812 successor but

even then you'd be surprised that they

don't if they're making a V12 they're

putting R&D into a 12 cylinder and not

putting it in the big engine size and

performance aren't directly yeah but

having a in my world if you're going for

for Pure you want the fastest car you

don't probably may but having a V12 in

the super car is incredibly valuable not

not where Ferrari is right now they want

they're going after performance they're

going 12 engines are a core competency

engine for that manufacturer in the same

way that flat sixes are for Porsche V8s

are for for Ford with Mustang v12s are

for plus the super Ferraris have always

had v12s with a few exceptions okay but

nonetheless really exciting news can't

wait to see where this what how this

develops they've certainly never had v6s

that is really interesting and now we

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Sunday fipo and I drove out to the

desert because God we are we're free

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want yep we drove out to the

desert and and so and so we're driving

along in Palm Springs in Palm Desert

there and I tell filipo I say filipo

there's a street Palm Desert Called El

Paso it's where all the nice cars are I

say a couple years ago I was here and I

saw a new Ford GT which is a car you

don't really see on the road I say we

got to go down El Paso he says all right

fine let's go down El so I I turned I

was in a new 911 God knows why it sounds

like a dream it does

does we were in a new 911 driving

through the desert uh anyway so we

started driving like we're on the street

for a block after I had just built it up

as this Street full of crazy cars and we

see this lot for all right so obviously

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spotter right I'm like oh my God it's a

lot Ferrari and fleo was sitting there

like like yeah you know cars are cars

you I don't

know no I agreed I saw so I U-turn and I

go back to it as fast as I possibly can

and then I have to do another sharp

U-turn I do this crazy sharp U-turn in

the new 911 and then an alarm goes off

in the 911 it

goes like and then the the hazard lights

go on like I'm trying to steal the car

because I had just done this sharp turn

it sense we think it was because like it

thought it had been

accident but the turna wasn't insane

like it's what you would do on a track

exactly known as one of the best most

balanced sports cars of all time you did

a hard turn it thought got an accident

alarm so anyway so regardless of this

now the alarm is going off and the

hazard lights are on and I'm chasing

this laot Ferrari down the road like a

like I'm aop trying to pull him over in

my por with a siren anyway So eventually

he parks and actually the the very next

the very next turn in he he Parks so go

to the next are all the pictures in here

is it no just the one oh we don't have

all the pictures they're beautiful

photos they actually weren't uh but the

fow got out of the car it was an old guy

and uh he got out of the car and I don't

really talk to the people I don't I

don't really they have a red 911 chasing

them the going off um but but the guy

pulled over and he tried to go into an

art gallery that was closed and he left

the car sitting there and it was very

exciting it was and then somebody opened

the fuel filler you never see a La

Ferrari on the street I haven't seen a

La Ferrari on the street actually you

and me saw one in Malibu 3 years ago I

guess it was

yeah um this incredible and I was very

excited by the whole thing and I'm still

kind of trying to figure out who is

driving from it was from Chicago and I

have a buddy up there and I was like do

you know this guy and he didn't we got

to do some digging got to do some

digging it was quite a moment well quite

a moment for him for you it was just

another day he didn't care and you know

what I was disappointed by the general

reaction but people oh it's a lot ferari

it's not an F like if you had seen an

F50 people be freaking out it's the

stillest Ferrari super Co what was the

last time you saw Ferrari super car a

couple weeks ago just yeah a couple

weeks ago the island driving down the

street you're in a you're you're next to

a Prius you see 5 million rolling down

the street what was the dude doing it

was a Sunday in March what he he was out

having some fun I'm glad he drived it

everybody should drive their this is the

time we should go car spotting in Palm

Springs one day because in the in the

spring all these people are about to

have to go back to the hellish cold

places they're from okay so they all

have to go back to Alberta and Minnesota

and Manitoba and Illinois and so they're

getting the last little bit of of

enjoyment out of Palm Springs they're

playing the last rounds of golf they're

they're playing their last rounds of

golf again they're playing their last

rounds of golf again they're trying to

convince their wife to let them play yet

another round of golf and they're

driving their live Ferraris man how

special it was

special bet it is it's again not my

favorite of the Ferrari Super C but to

see one just your least favorite I

presume oh don't make count the F oh no

not yet not yet it's not yet my least no

yeah but but it's just special someone

actually using this car as a car it's so

crazy to see now I mean they've become

such Investments I never assumed that

I'll see any of these cars any exct it's

totally insane the battery works

astonishing it's not a dealer that

replaced for 260 Grand is amazingbe

that's why they had a prominent

dealership on the back glad the dealer

did that for them Montana plates like

they all are yep okay uh next to car

story is from filipo you going to talk

about earthwind and fire whatever the

colors were on that no but I do want to

talk about electric vehicles electric

vehicles great lovely have you noticed

that there are for most of like the

higher-end electric vehicles the the

Model S's the model X the Cyber truck

the r1s the

r1t I'm going to run out all those right

help me out here they they all have an

incredibly high performance version yeah

yes the the the the Plaid is incredibly

fast the Lucid air Sapphire is a

$250,000 for electric motor vehicle the

r1s has a three motor and a four motor

version you can't tell any of them apart

from the base version of that car

yeah visually cuz

like right M3 you can tell an M5 you can

tell an R5 Turbo Man can you tell yes he

me when we were driving back from the

desert pull up you know I want to I want

to I want to argue with something

here to the site go type in model 3

Performance model 3 Performance are you

going to go for the plate frame that all

whee Drive folks look at the vast

distinction aob click on this blue one

which by the way has real horsepower and

this compared to a regular model 3 this

car has um I think the wheels are may be

different but you can get Performance

Wheels on a base well um yeah uh you

know uh but like like why does why

doesn't certainly Tesla but I get that

cuz they want to produce the fewest

panels possible but why doesn't rivan

try to differentiate

highest powered r1s which is like a

G63 perform sells a G63 but they don't

tell anybody about it the sapphire

Sapphire midly has wider track but

that's it the sapphire has a few

differences H the tires are so big and

all that even the regular air is so cool

that they don't need to distinguish that

much the rivian are really the best

example type in r1s and it's like wild I

totally agree you can't tell you have no

idea whether you're looking at the large

battery the quad motor all wheel drive

quad motor or the dual motor new one it

is a story green one it is a story out

as old as time from automaker playbooks

if you want people to get the cool

version you put more power in it but

also you make it look cooler so that

that when they're driving around

everybody knows how rich they are and

how cool they're car is right this is

the basis one you can't tell you can't

tell which is like good if you're buying

the Bas one I guess but very bad if

you're spending exra Grand hard to

convince people to spend more because

even the bass r1s has more power than

whatever car they were coming out of so

what's the point of going for the crazy

one if people don't even know right you

need to different rivan take her advice

differentiate the models make them look

different they're going to come out with

a quad I do assume though that the

reason is like you said they're going

for simp production you want sell cars

or do you not want to sell cars well I I

they're selling either way do you want

to sell your highest profit margin which

presumably are the most expensive ones

they are selling either way but you do

want to try to get people to go into

your highest margin cars and assuming

their highest margin yeah well they must

be um and like this is just the easiest

thing in the world they have they really

done the research and found that making

a few new panels and different Wheels is

not worth I mean charging an extra 25 if

I was getting a rivan I would get a base

model and I would just I would tell

people it's a quor even on cards where

you can't that over like your stick on

is it does a Mercedes CL 66 look that

excuse me CL65 look that different from

a 55 W rare model no I don't think so

you saw you saw a V12 Mercedes yesterday

I knew

Wheels change at the Le and there's some

like treatment it's not even body panels

it's just

treat and the EV manufacturers need to

do the same thing if they want to sell

those I agree I think it's crazy I think

it's crazy uh okay next I I think that's

a very I think it's I think it's wild

and I think it's really surprising call

me up I'll help I want to take a moment

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really love to hear his insights there

was a time when we only got to hear from

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with Jim Farley today um the next thing

I want to discuss during the toot car

segment today is the Lexus LX which

happens to be the sponsor of the to car

segment um I I he that Lexus racing was

about a year ago is the sponsor of the

podcast well yeah we're not actually

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