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Welcome to Switchcast Season 6, I'm your host Doug Tabott here with my co-host Tyler Sanders
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and our producer Extra Ordinaire, Ethan Huffnagle.
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Some say that revenge is a dish best served cold, I was going to say some say that our
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They would be right occasionally, but not all the time.
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It's usually my fault.
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Anyway, so we believe that the news is also a dish best served cold.
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We've said this before.
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We'll say it again.
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We serve your news late with extra context and extra sauce, that's snark sauce.
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Once again, update for our patrons.
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We appreciate you, and if you'd like to support us, patreon.com slash switchcast, or Sean Connery
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checking in again here, switchcast.live slash patreon.
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I came up with a joke during our intermission.
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If you're not on Patreon, you would not be privy to our intermission, but we have
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I said, what happens when the Blues Brothers take a break?
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What happens, Doug?
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It's an intermission from God.
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We got a gift from a listener.
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Another one, Ed Krakowak, who sent us a couple other things, our sign that's displayed
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with one of the best quotes ever that's attributed to me, but isn't my quote, and lives on our
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Was it Wayne Gretzky, Doug Tabbot, or Doug Tabbot, Wayne Gretzky?
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Which way would it be?
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Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott, Doug Tabbot.
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Oh, he really hasn't even opened it yet.
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No, there's a lot of tape on here, so I'm expecting Tyler to vamp while we...
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...gift from a listener.
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Look, I just appreciate that.
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If you're sending us something, you're making sure...
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I was supposed to vamp.
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He's let the man vamp.
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Can't even let me vamp on his own show.
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What do we got, Doug?
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My show is like, oh, what?
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It's a plate-to-sample sign made out of plates.
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Hey, join the Patreon if you want to see it.
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I don't have a space for this immediately for the video, but we'll just put it in front
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of the Ferrari for now.
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It looks like late-to-sample.
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No, late-to-sample was me this week.
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I'll be better next time.
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When you're tardy for a wine tasting, you're late-to-sample.
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It's in the news this week.
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The longest kick in NFL history, a 70-yard field goal has been made just recently.
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Doug, this is a car podcast.
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What the heck does that have to do with cars?
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Well, it was made the kickers on the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it's just Jaguar, the automotive
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manufacturer isn't doing anything good, so I was like, well, this Jaguar, these
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Jaguars are doing something cool.
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Yeah, because Jaguar's CEO recently resigned after 35 years at the company and just three
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So talk about kind of like abandoning a sinking ship.
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Interesting direction that company is taking.
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We're going to have to clear Doug's warm-up-lap comments.
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We're getting off the rails over here.
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Also, are you drinking cereal milk?
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It's probiotic dairy things.
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That sounds horrific for my old tummy, so I'm going to keep drinking whiskey, and you
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We've talked a lot about multi-platform relists, still the warm-up-lap.
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We've talked a lot about multi-platform relists.
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We've got code here, baseball signs, when it doesn't work.
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This content is so good.
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There's no way it's just the warm-up-lap.
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That's how much we love you, audio listeners.
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And or relists, on Bring a Trailer and whether or not they work.
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We've got a few auction results to unpack here.
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So the first one is a heavily modified Porsche 996 GT3 that bid to 64 grand July 17th on Bring
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Now, Tyler, take us through the quick rundown of all the things that were wrong with this
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car and its presentation.
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It's a pile of trash, ladies and gents.
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It is red that's been wrapped red for some reason.
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Somebody self-tappered screws onto the...
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You got pause on that one again.
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And what is the vinyl wrap color?
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Pretty sure it's guards red.
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Talk about trying to hide something.
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It's not even a color change.
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But then they used self-tapping screws to screw on a horrific front splitter.
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The interior was entirely gutted at some point.
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And then they put in a Boxster interior instead.
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And what I mean by Boxster interior is the door cards.
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And well, there's no headliner.
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There's like barely any carpet.
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There's holes punched in the dash.
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The headliner's in, but they didn't...
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They just like stuck it in.
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All of the holes that were drilled into the dash for something, they took a roll cage
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This will never be a street car again.
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No air conditioning.
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It's no like hood latch or release.
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It's all just pins on the deck lid and the frunk.
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They tried to quickly put it back to a street car instead of just selling it for what
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it is, which is a race car.
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It is a pile of crap if it's a street car.
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Probably a great track toy.
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The comments were crazy too, because a lot of previous owners chimed in and people were
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asking questions about the welds that didn't look factory.
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And somebody's like, yeah, I didn't know of any crash damage.
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And then the next comment was, oh, it was wrecked three times when I own it on track.
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The sellers are like, oh, this is a great piece of our collection.
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Somebody's going to get a great car.
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And I'm like, can you just acknowledge this for what it is?
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They bragged that it was ceramic coated.
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On top of the wrap.
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The wrap overhiding the paint was ceramic coated to make it look so good.
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Anyway, yeah, go ahead.
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It bid to $65 on bring a trailer.
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No sale, no hit reserve.
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So they put this bad boy on P car market.
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No, they did nothing to the car.
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It was like the same photos slapped it up here.
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And boy, howdy, Doug.
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It went to $37 right.
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Oh, but the after, you know, they did get offers after the auction up to $49.
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So not a great re-list.
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It's no longer on the page now that they were asking $55 on deal tank.
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It went from $60 to $55, which is highly suspect that the bids on bring a trailer
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to $64 were legitimate.
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Something doesn't smell right here.
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I mean, besides the car.
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They don't have proof of this, but the high bidder on bring a trailer edited their comment
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after it was posted because they had a somewhat sassy response.
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And then it got edited to a just, well, I'll get them next time.
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But they essentially alluded to the fact that like, wow, I thought my offer was exceptionally
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strong and like very shocked.
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And so I posted this on Wrenlist and the GT3 cars for sale thread and everybody
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was just eviscerating the car, which felt good.
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So that didn't go so well.
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But another relist did.
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There is a 2006 Aston Martin DB9 Volante in Almond Green six speed manual.
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And boy, the first two auctions did not go well in 2024 was listed twice on bring a trailer
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bid to $50,000 and to $60,000, which is low ish for a DB9 six speed manual.
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And it was relisted again this year, mostly the same photos really not much fundamentally
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changed in the auction other than, oh, yes, while they added like 400 photos, so there's
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600 photos, but only a hundred of them are good.
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They're like taken from so far away that you're like, is that a car?
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Trying to be artsy, but with an iPhone, man, Almond Green is so pretty.
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And it no reserve this time, which the auction houses always tell you to do because it'll
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get better results, but boy is it a gamble.
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And it paid off this time because it sold for $81,500, so 30 percent increase.
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Now, it has been what, like eight months since it was last listed.
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So the different, you know, we're in a different market, I guess, but maybe that's huge.
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How many six speed DB9s, like, and everybody remembers the car.
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So yeah, I just, I guess in this case, it worked.
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You can't say while they serviced it or put better photos up, they just did it again
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and said it is selling.
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So that got the bidders out.
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Wouldn't always advise that tactic.
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I've been burned pretty good on some no reserve auctions, but there's sometimes
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something to be said for it.
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And the last auction we wanted to take a look at is this odd one.
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Everybody's doing stick shift conversions.
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Well, somebody did the opposite.
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And on bringing a trailer last month, there was a Viper SRT 10 Roadster automatic conversion.
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Doug, when you first sent this to me, I admit, I was a little bit of an elitist.
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I thought this was dumb, but after reflecting and being a mature adult, I dig that
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somebody was able to do this for themselves who either couldn't or couldn't drive manual
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for whatever reason or didn't want to learn and they could still enjoy Viper.
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So heck, yeah, hopefully the next person will keep it as is because they also
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want to drive a Viper but are unable to drive stick.
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Indeed, because they only made them in stick.
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So it sold fairly well, actually sold for 41,000 bucks, which is pretty darn
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close to what a six speed manual one would go for.
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Well, once again, we're fully warmed up and that brings us to this
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doozy of a headline from the Chicago Sun Times.
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Chicago Lamborghini dealer made millions selling to unauthorized
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customers, at least according to the manufacturer.
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That is a spicy headline.
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OK, tell me more, Doug.
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OK, well, Lamborghini sued the dealership Gold Coast Exotic Imports,
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which is based out of Chicago area, claiming that at least 32
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transactions in 2023 appeared to be sales to non-retail customers in
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violation of a contract.
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In one case, the dealer claimed to sell one car to a former pro athlete
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when in fact it went to a convicted crook who wasn't a retail customer.
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So being a crook means you're not a retail customer?
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OK, well, tell me more, tell me more.
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Apparently in this case, he was.
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Some real corny lines in this article that we won't use because I didn't come up with them.
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Yeah, how's it being on the other side?
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Anyway, Automobily Lamborghini America is claiming that they were misled by
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their dealer about some of the customers who bought cars from the dealer.
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And once again, one of the customers was a convicted criminal who was
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an unauthorized reseller, says the lawsuit.
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So this maybe sounds like, well, I don't know, continue.
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That right there annoys me a little bit because I technically am an unauthorized reseller.
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Doug, I am not a Lamborghini dealer or Porsche dealer or Ferrari dealer or anything like that.
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So if I buy a car from one of the franchise dealers and flip it for a profit
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because I'm a flipper, I would be an unauthorized reseller.
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But it's not illegal.
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I am just not authorized by the manufacturer to sell their cars new.
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So does this mean you're not a retail customer?
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I could be if I paid sales tax on it.
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That's the only difference between a retail customer and a wholesale
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customer because intent to resell has nothing to do with it because every
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Porsche VIP customer on the planet intends to resell all their GT cars that
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they've done for the past 10 years since they instituted that program.
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So intent is murky, but apparently in this case, allegedly Gold Coast
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exotic imports was boosting their numbers by selling to people who were
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then flipping the cars for profit, maybe exporting them, maybe selling
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them into different regions.
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And the manufacturers have very strict rules on in order to protect
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their franchises and their territories about where dealers can sell.
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They can't sell into other dealers' territories because they don't want
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to get them into competing price wars.
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They can't sell overseas because that messes up their global distribution.
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They can't sell to people who are known for selling overseas.
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Again, none of these things are illegal, but it just has to do with a
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franchise agreement between the manufacturer and the dealer itself.
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And this is why this is a civil lawsuit, but they're painting it as
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if these resellers and convicted criminals are kind of one in the same.
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Well, all of the wording makes it very confusing because it seems like
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on a lot of these articles that Lamborghini is suing because they
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sold cars to flippers.
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Which isn't really what's going on.
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Yes, it is what's going on.
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They are suing because they sold them to flippers.
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Well, so there was something in these that says that it's because
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the dealership received four million in bonus money as a result of these sales.
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And that's the money that is causing the suit.
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Or because they falsely represented these sales to Lamborghini.
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It's not the sale itself.
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Because some manufacturers, some dealers can sell to brokers and resellers.
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Like there's nothing legally prohibiting them from doing that.
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You can sell to whomever they want as long as it's within the law.
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They're not, you know, it's not laundering money and, you know, you
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follow the trail of where money comes from and cash payments and all that
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But no, it's not illegal to sell to brokers, but the there are what you
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said, unit bonuses that get charged back to dealers if they find out that
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they've sold into regions that they're not allowed to sell to or sold to brokers.
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But once again, this article, and I think Lamborghini is trying to paint
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this dealer and flippers as being synonymous with bad people.
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One paragraph here says the vehicles were actually sold to quote
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brokers and quote resellers, including one who quote previously plated,
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guilty in a criminal fraud case that involves selling luxury cars to drug
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dealers and pimps as a means of laundering money.
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So like those kinds of things are, I mean, they're relevant, but it makes
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it sound like every broker and reseller is a money launder.
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And a lot of them aren't.
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They're just non factory authorized car dealers operating totally legally.
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But the manufacturer doesn't like it because they want to control their
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market and they want to have a good relationship and offer proper services
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to their retail clients.
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And when dealers looking to make a quick buck do things like this, it in
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the manufacturer's opinion hurts their brand.
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Now there's also some other things alleged, Tyler, you mentioned about
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like payments on the side.
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Yeah, the biggest thing I noticed is it seems like there were some
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incentives that Lamborghini was offering for sales.
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And I think there were stipulations on those incentives
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that the sales had to be of a certain type or and I think that's
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where the whole retail customer thing comes in.
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So the suit alleges that the dealership submitted and obtained
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these, these bonus payments, even though they didn't, they
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essentially lied when they were submitting the information to make
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it seem like it was the customers that Lamborghini wanted.
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But then I think there's another trick that dealers pull.
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And I don't think I know that a lot of them do this.
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I don't know that this was a case with Gold Coast, but I've heard
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many stories of dealers doing this where they will do these
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backdoor deals where the sales manager owner, somebody will get
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cash payments or watches or whatever in exchange for doing deals
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with these resellers, oftentimes when the dealers are required
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to sell the vehicles at MSRP, they go, well, they're going for a
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50 or 100 grand over.
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So we want that profit, but we can't do it because the
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manufacturer will get us in trouble, but we can't sell it
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to broker because we'll get in trouble.
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So they sell to a retail customer who then Rolex or
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something shows up at the sales manager's office and then
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they get consigned back or resold and it's just all these
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So it would seem to be the case that maybe Gold Coast is double
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dipping here, where they're selling to these brokers and
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resellers thinking like, okay, we're getting payments on this
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side and we're getting the manufacturer spiffs because we're
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reporting these as retail sales.
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So I will say this, there must be something going on because
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if you go to Lamborghini Gold Coast and go to new inventory,
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there's nothing, they're only dealing in used cars at the
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So I think Lamborghini might not be sending them cars.
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It's very possible, very possible.
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I sure that is within their agreement and not do.
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So I have an interesting story about Bentley Lamborghini
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Gold Coast when I was much younger and just getting
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into the business, I went in there, I was on a trip with
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a bunch of people from church and we were just walking
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I was like, oh, I'm going to go in and look at cars.
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So I got talking with one of the salesmen and he let me behind
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the ropes and we're looking at rain drivers and stuff.
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And we sat down on his desk and the Range Rover Sport had
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just come out and I was flipping those for a profit.
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And now Gold Coast prices were such that there's no way I
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was going to buy it from them and flip it for profit.
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They were marking them up at the time, but I was at
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I was negotiating and the guy said, well, if we can get this
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deal done today, are you are you ready to pay?
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I'm like, no, I'm on a trip, but I'll leave you a deposit and
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wrap it up when I get back.
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And he goes, well, what kind of deposit?
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I said a thousand bucks.
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He goes, thousand bucks?
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What do you think you're buying an effing bicycle?
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I was like, it's pretty much the deposit I leave anywhere
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else on a Range Rover.
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So that was my experience with that, but I was an unauthorized
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I know they sniffed it out.
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I did look at their Google reviews and it, I was surprised
23:59
that people would leave negative reviews if because they went
24:04
to look at the dealer or look at the cars at the dealership,
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but they weren't intending to buy it.
24:08
Like there were tourists that were just like, I want to
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see some cool cars and they're like, these people
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were so rude to us.
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And I'm like, this is not what the business is for.
24:16
I can't believe you leave.
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But you can be upset about it.
24:18
You can be annoyed.
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But leaving a negative review when you went into a business
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and did not participate in the purpose of the business is wild.
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That's why we don't have a showroom.
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We're nice to people that come, but there's a reason we
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don't have a showroom.
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We'd never get any work done.
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Uh, man, that brings us to, I don't know if we solved
24:42
anything there, but we shed some light on what's going
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on and, you know, whatever.
24:47
They're, they're probably going to reach a settlement.
24:49
Money will be exchanged and they'll, they'll all move on.
24:51
But that's, that's the inside look at, uh, what's going on there.
24:57
Shrew negotiator, which is people trying so, so hard to buy
25:01
or sell their wares and usually trying a little too hard.
25:06
And we like to make fun of them because we never do it ourselves.
25:12
Ah, no, not at once.
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997 C4 S for sale 2007, which is right in the range of IMS
25:21
and bore scoring possible issues, but of course it's a
25:23
non-serviceable bearing on the 07.
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So it can be an issue, but it's not upgradable.
25:30
And it's a lower percentage of failure than the old one.
25:33
So a lot of people say it's not an issue.
25:35
Anyway, in his for sale listing, this is great quote IMS
25:41
bearing checked and it is not an issue for the 07.
25:45
I had this checked with a all caps licensed pro Porsche race
25:50
car driver who won championships nationwide.
25:55
Is it like a mechanic championship or are they talk
25:57
about driving the cars?
25:58
It says race car driver.
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Well, I don't think they, they might know some stuff.
26:03
They could be very knowledgeable, but they were wrong.
26:06
The guy did go on to start his own Porsche shop.
26:09
It did say this, but I'm like that those are the wrong
26:12
qualifications to be touting when you're saying something
26:15
mechanical like great, the guy can drive around a track fast.
26:19
That doesn't mean he knows about IMS bearings.
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Anyway, so I somewhat misleading there because he's trying to
26:26
say that it's not an issue.
26:27
It's not much of an issue, but it's still an issue.
26:31
But anyway, I don't want to hate on the listing too much.
26:34
I just thought that was hilarious, especially all caps,
26:36
but it is a great listing.
26:38
Otherwise the car is gorgeous.
26:40
Meteor gray with cocoa, sport seats, 19 inch optional wheels,
26:44
low miles, stick, you know, wide body, everything you want.
26:47
And the the guy who posted for sale is actually captain positive
26:51
because a lot of people were making in front of the price or whatever.
26:54
And at the end of his listing, you just said, please respect the post.
26:58
And people would say whatever they wanted.
27:00
And he's just like, thanks for the input thumbs up.
27:04
I mean, just captain positive.
27:06
I'm like, we need more of this guy.
27:08
And like, can you teach the Corvette guys to sell their cars?
27:12
That is I got to tell you, that's a pretty hot spec.
27:16
I do love some cocoa. You have converted me.
27:17
Yes, I wish cocoa was a nine and six thing.
27:19
Yeah. Speaking of cocoa, I'm selling my
27:22
cocoa seven nine eleven, which I did not have checked by a license
27:27
pro Porsche race car driver.
27:28
But somebody messaged me simply.
27:31
I am as a question mark to which I responded, yes, it has one.
27:36
Good job. They all do, actually.
27:38
But don't think too hard.
27:44
The Sheffield brand was recently revived by Jake Turkbus, an owner
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of an original Sheffield all sport diver.
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He received from his parents in 1970, when he was just 11,
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beginning his love of watches.
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and marketing to revive the brand that started it all.
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He set out to develop watches with a high level of quality
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His first effort and a successful one on July of 2023
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Porsche, Porsche Corporate.
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Oh, it is not looking good for them this year.
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And we are referencing a couple of articles in this discussion
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from SSO report, which is one of my favorite kind of diamond
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in the rough journalistic websites.
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They cover corporate goings on within
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corporate goings on within supercar and luxury car manufacturers
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and dive into the numbers and give us a real good look
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business wise of what's going on and why.
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And it's extremely helpful, but it's very sexy.
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Corporate goings on. Love those spreadsheet style.
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Oh, I do. Oh, we were making fun of Porsche Club of America
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last month for highlighting the McCann EV
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as their Porsche Parade 2026 poster vehicle.
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And somebody alleged in the comments that, well,
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this is because Porsche Corporate is a big sponsor of the Porsche Club of America
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and they're trying to push their EVs
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and do this through things like the Porsche Parade,
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which are mostly, you know, diehard like Porsche Enthusiast,
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kind of their core loyal customer base.
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And I think part of our argument is that the diehard Porsche Enthusiast
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is not always the person who's going to be excited
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or really wanting to show off a new McCann EV.
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Yes, but also this is not going to age well.
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It really isn't aging well for Porsche
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because their sales are down quite a lot.
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Porsche had record year after record year
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from essentially like 17, 18, 19, 20, even through COVID
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when they were complaining about supply chain issues.
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They kept delivering more cars than the previous year,
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even though, oh, somehow we can't get cars.
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So we got to raise prices and there's no cars on dealer lots.
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Well, weird, because you delivered like 20,000 more than you did last year
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and what happened more than pre-COVID.
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So anyway, Porsche's sales peaked in 2023 at 330,000 cars delivered
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in 2025, they are on track for 290,000.
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So that's a pretty significant decline.
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And this article essentially says there's two
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big blunders that Porsche has made internally
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that is causing this failure or a few but two main ones.
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One of them is leaning very heavily on China.
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In 2021, according to this article,
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China represented 32 percent of Porsche's vehicles sold.
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It was their largest market in 2023.
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It had dropped to 25 percent.
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And in 2024, they were down to 18 percent
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with sales of just 56,000 vehicles.
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And that line is still trending downwards.
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And this guy has a great quote.
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He says, quote, the China trend of boom and then
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bust is a risk Porsche executives should have been
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well aware of and prepared for.
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It's very much the same well documented trend.
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Most multinational consumer product companies have gone
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through in China over recent decades.
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The Chinese market is anything but a level
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transparent playing field.
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As quickly as you are able to grow a business in China,
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they have the ability to take it away.
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Porsche's biggest mistake was getting addicted to the
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revenue and building out structure to support a
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business that was never going to last.
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And he makes a really good point that Ferrari, who,
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by the way, should be the model for all luxury car
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manufacturers to follow, because with all these small
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volume luxury car manufacturers, just absolutely
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struggling Ferrari is raking in profit year after year
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after year and their stocks are great.
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And yeah, they know how to make money.
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Ferrari has a self-imposed China limit of 10 percent
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of sales because they get that game,
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which I think is fascinating because that's nothing
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I ever really thought of is the imposing how many
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vehicles or how much of a product you would sell
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to a certain market for stability reasons.
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And you would think that I don't have a business degree.
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I don't pay attention to international economics
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and markets and supply and demand and whatnot.
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But I would have expected a company like Porsche
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with the resources that they have to be able to look
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into a crystal ball and be like, maybe we should
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take a bit of a slower approach and go for a long term
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game rather than pumping in for this like exponential
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growth that at some point was only going to stop.
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Their next big blunder is, of course, EVs,
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which we've been calling for a long time
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with these manufacturers somewhat under pressure,
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of course, from impending EU regulations
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and or California mission regulations,
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leaning so heavily into EV development and EV sales.
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But unfortunately for them, the demand really is not there.
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And we cover this with Ferrari recently,
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where Ferrari just said, nope, we've essentially
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pulled our customers.
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There's no demand, so we're going to push stuff back.
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Porsche didn't pull their customers, apparently.
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And which is the same thing they did with the 991.1 GT3.
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They're like, nope, PDK only.
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Nobody wants that silly manual.
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And guess what they had to bring back?
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The manual. Back in 2022,
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they went kind of all in on EVs.
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They wanted to be up to 80 percent EVs totally in 2030.
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80 percent of Porsche's brand.
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Porsche who used to, I don't know if they've ever only made the 911,
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but I'm sure there are some years you could find that that was it.
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They made enthusiast cars.
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And I think all of us cried a little bit when they made the Cayenne.
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And they were like, yeah, no, it's kind of a cool sporty SUV.
35:38
And then like everyone was doing them.
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And then they made the Panamera and we cried mostly because it was ugly.
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But, you know, well, no, it's a sports sedan.
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And then they just snuck in.
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And all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute, it's
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McCons and Cayans and Panameras and Taycans and now all these EVs.
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And then Porsche said, we're not going to make the Boxster
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Cayman line anymore, sorry, 718 in internal combustion done, canceled.
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I was at a Porsche, a cars and coffee at a local Porsche dealer to us.
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And I love one of my favorite things to do historically at this event
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is walk around the building and see what inventory they have stashed
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behind the to make way for the cars and coffee crowd.
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I saw a gold nine, nine, seven turbo cab, which was pretty sweet
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and an absolutely clapped G body Targa.
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Everything else, a McCann, a Cayenne, a Taycan or a Panamera
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behind that building like no nine, elevens, nothing.
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It was just all of this stuff, which like they need to you need to have
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a successful business in order to make the fun stuff.
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Totally get it, but it's a little depressing.
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But maybe the fun stuff is their successful business
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and they're trying to grow too much into markets like China,
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thinking that gravy train will never end.
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And again, he pointed out the blunder of investing too heavily
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in something without a guarantee that it's going to be sustainable long term.
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Tech companies do this all the time.
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Oh, yes. Let's hire a hundred thousand people.
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We only grew 20 percent.
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So we got to lay off half of them.
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But you got to get that VC money, Doug. Yes.
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So anyway, they bet heavily on EVs wanted to be 80 percent pure EVs by 2030.
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Well, in 2024, just 12 percent of Porsche sales were in EVs
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and the flagship EV that Taken dropped by 49 percent.
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So it is definitely not Taken the World by storm.
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It is more Taken Porsche's stocks down.
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And he he points out what we have is he says
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Porsche's core customers are highly engaged and enthusiastic group.
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So I think if they pull their customers, it's
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a Porsche does some weird things.
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Oh, but they did. I forgot about this.
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They they reintroduced side note here.
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This is Porsche trying to be like Ferrari
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in terms of like making lots of money off of options.
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They reintroduced their Pasha interior, which is the vintage
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Yeah, I dig it. I like it.
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So that will be available in the twenty twenty six nine eleven.
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Do you want to know how much it costs?
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Twenty thousand dollars.
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Yeah, something like that. I'm getting there.
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It's it's exorbitant, exorbitant is for some interior fabric.
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Oh, you got to get the nine eleven spirit 70.
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That's what it is. It's a limited edition ride,
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which is two hundred forty two thousand dollars.
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Oh, I thought you were saying it was going to be available on like production cars.
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And it is. It is also available as an option.
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That's what they're introducing it on.
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But then you can also add it as an option.
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And I'm guessing it's going to be five figures because heck,
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you got to pay 15 grand just to get a non standard paint color.
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So Porsche is trying to milk their enthusiasts
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with stuff like crazy expensive Pasha interior,
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when maybe they should be focused on just making cars that enthusiasts want.
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So this made there is a time in history
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that Porsche was really, really struggling before in the nineties.
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And I know their way out of that was to do modify to adjust
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in time manufacturing process that, you know, that was kind of the stowed
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upon the boxers. The way out of it or not the Cayenne.
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You know, they had a lot of.
39:46
But I was wondering what was the source of their problems in the nineties.
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So I did a little bit of digging and research because I kind of knew like,
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well, they just didn't have a ton of money.
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So I found a good sub stack that said that summarized it pretty well,
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that they had three main problems, a worldwide recession,
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reduced sales in the luxury car market in the nineties.
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They had a lot of strategic missteps, such as
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introducing a lot of models that didn't really sell well,
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even though they were meant for a broader market, such as the nine
40:15
twenty eight, they also invested a bunch of money in the technology
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for that V8 engine that was never in anything else ever again.
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And then they had a very expensive production system.
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And it wasn't that good to begin with.
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No. So what's interesting is these reasons now
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that Porsche is struggling are not the same as they were in the nineties,
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but there's a lot of analogs and the fix
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at that point was to introduce a new leader
40:41
that dramatically changed how they did business and focused on
40:45
the like core customers for Porsche.
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Yeah. So I hope I love Porsche.
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I always have. I know it's just a business,
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but I love the products they have created so far.
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And I want them to continue.
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And I hope that they can introduce someone or some some things,
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some driving mission statement for their organization
41:03
that will turn the ship around and focus on what made them great
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versus focusing on what will make them the most money.
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Your leadership is an interesting point
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because right now they have essentially a part time CEO
41:17
because he's the CEO of Porsche and Volkswagen at the same time,
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which there's an old brilliant saying for my friend, Fred Palutza,
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that says never half-ass two things, whole ass one thing.
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So there's not a lot of whole assing going on at Porsche right now.
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I tell you what. Yeah, right.
41:35
So and of course, there's some external challenges,
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like you mentioned, just in the nineties.
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I think it was it was Japan's market cratered
41:45
and that was driving the collector car market and that dried up overnight.
41:50
I mean, and the guys tanked in value.
41:53
The ratio, the dollar valuation to the
41:55
Deutsche Mark was also garbage, so it made the cars really expensive.
41:59
And the garbage for us Americans, it made the cars really expensive.
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So nobody wanted to buy them. Yeah, which is that has changed somewhat,
42:06
except now we have tariffs and we have the reciprocal tariffs for the EU,
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which are up to 15 percent.
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They were 10 percent up until August 1st.
42:15
And I believe US is or was the number two
42:21
market for Porsche behind China.
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And I think we're number one now that China's markets declined.
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So tacking on 10 to 15 percent
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cost on all the vehicles you're sending into the US
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on top of the covid inflation
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and at the same time, kind of this waning demand coming off of all that.
42:45
You have these three economic factors going on.
42:47
Prices are have already gone up a bunch.
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Yes. And now we have the tariffs
42:53
and the demand is waning a little bit at the same time.
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So Porsche has to overcome that.
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So kind of like the early nineties,
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they've got kind of a two fold external internal challenge here.
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And they definitely need some good leadership
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to draw them out of this.
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So, you know, I we love our Porsche cars.
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We've had a lot of them ourselves.
43:19
It's sometimes a love relationship, as it is with any great car.
43:23
But I want to see them come out of this, for sure.
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I'd like them to continue making great cars for car enthusiasts.
43:32
But I don't know, maybe they'll just be Macani V company forever.
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Self refrigerators with warranties.
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A dug, do we have a pick of the week?
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We do. An update. I did double check it.
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The Pasha interior is approximately $13,000 for an option.
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Yeah, spicy. Porsche is sticking it to their enthusiasts.
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OK, I think you could buy a 928,
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a whole 928 with Pasha interior for that price.
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Yeah, but it won't run.
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And it won't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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OK, to pick of the week is 2009 Porsche Boxster S
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six speed manual and the car that saved Porsche.
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It's a post IMS car. It's the 987.2.
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It's got factory sport seats, not with Pasha interior,
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only 18,000 miles and is a nice, right and tight little car.
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A lot of fun, something Ethan could goodbye.
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Ethan, let's see our flop of the week.
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A lot of videos floating around of these parking lot
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curbs installed at a mall,
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not where the parking goes,
45:05
but in front of the store where you drive,
45:08
instead of speed bumps, they put the parking curbs.
45:12
And apparently the installer said he knew when he was doing it like this.
45:16
This isn't what's supposed to go here,
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but it was what was on the RO is what he was paid to do.
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So he put him in. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
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This is like, oh, God, like it's OK to just ask the question.
45:29
Should I actually be doing this?
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Like everybody might be union.
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So if he does it, he can get paid and then get paid double time to take him out
45:37
and then pay it again to put them back in.
45:39
I wonder how many people drove over these?
45:42
There are videos of people just like a one mile an hour.
45:47
That's in serious front axle lift over those things.
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Oh, prop of the week.
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Another one from a video.
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Crazy quarter mile drag race.
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This Opel GT built as a drag car gets hit on the drag strip.
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The the impact causes him to roll twice,
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bounce off the opposite side wall,
46:15
but then lands upright facing the finish line,
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throttle down goes any completes a quarter mile run faster than probably
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any car than any of us had in high school that we thought were fast.
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I think it was 13.8 seconds.
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Quarter mile after getting hit, rolling twice, bouncing off the wall.
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Oh, amazing. In it to win it.
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Oh, pedal to the metal.
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