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Toyota Camry
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Term
starter motor
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Term
blue smoke
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Term
viscosity of the oil
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Commodore
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red line
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Koenigsegg
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VTEC solenoid gasket
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crank angle sensor
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Volkswagen Caddy
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Honda Odyssey
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factory warranty
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Honda Acti
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Holden Utes
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Toyota GR Yaris
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Toyota MR2
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clutch kick
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oversteer
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cornering speed
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Part
2GR engine
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horsepower
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Toyota 2GR
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3S GT
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MK3 Super Turbo
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solid rear axle
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Ford Mustang
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traction control
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active rear steering
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Nissan Skyline
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Ford FG XR6 Turbo
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Mercedes-Benz 300SEL
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P76
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flat tyre
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gearbox
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Welcome to Car Talk.
It's Tuesday night here on 90.9 NW FM.
It's me, Matty J, in the studio with Mr. Chad DeBow.
I'm online with Mr. David Prince, Mr. Jim Barlow, and Mr. Scotty Doe Johnson.
How are you, gentlemen?
Doing really well.
Thank you.
Good.
Thank you.
Good to see all your lovely faces.
Good to see you guys nice and happy.
It's another Tuesday where we talk cars, everything car-related with our shenanigans.
Alam's a late apology because he's got committee, but he's just out there, so he'll be listening
to this episode intently.
They have a live committee every Tuesday night.
We've got an idea coming up, so I think they're leading up to us, which is next week.
Anyway, let's start with some updates.
How are you, guys?
First to join us was Jim.
Jim, how are you?
Not too bad.
Thanks.
Uplets me.
I've got the laser back with a quote for a roadworthy, which, if I went down that path would
be about three and a half grand, so I've opted not to go down that pathway.
So it should be being towed away sometime this week, I think.
What else is there?
Oh, and then a bit like that character from Up who's always distracted by squirrels.
I've had a few of those on Facebook Marketplace this week.
The recent of which you've just sent through.
Yes, that was today, actually, that one, but the ones that have kept my interest
most of the week was a very late Humber Super Snipe, which I was too slow to act on.
Somebody from New South Wales bought that one.
And then a very early tier Magna SE in a colour called Gold Leaf, which Mr Britannica, Mr
Prince helped try to defy was only available for one year and it's also got brown seats
as well, which we, which Mr Prince seemed to defy was out of production from 1993 on
with.
Obviously, it's very would have been a very unpopular colour combination when you I'm assuming by
all that.
So is it because you said you said to me earlier that was a one year, that was a one year run.
They did that colour, right?
Yes.
So I've never, I've never seen another one that colour.
Yes.
So that colour was unavailable from 1992 and that seat fabric was unavailable in 1993.
It might have been unavailable in 1992 as well, but unavailable in 1993.
It's pretty cool combo.
Yeah.
Because at first when I saw the ad, I thought, oh, it's an interesting respray.
And then we've got the interior and I went, I don't think it's a respray.
Yeah.
And I've got quite a specific preference for what I want my second gen to look like,
but the colour kind of overwhelmed all that.
So are you interested in this said vehicle?
So I was going to be going up and seeing it tomorrow.
Yes.
The seller is unavailable until the weekend now.
Okay.
But I am second to the Blanc queue apparently.
Okay.
So, yeah, we'll see if that works out or not.
And yeah, I did just find a Camry V6 in Bendigo as well.
So if I can't get that, I'll just get Camry V6 and copy you.
Ah!
Yes.
So, yes.
Oh, and the other one, which is not very happy about.
The last, so when I last got the car service, I pointed out something because it was a
fuse that looked a little bit worn out.
And I was told that's sort of like a fuse for the starter motor, but we won't sort of bother
about until the starter motor starts to fail.
The last five days or so, it's kind of slow to crank in the morning.
Once it's on, it's okay.
But when it's cold, it starts smoking a bit.
Smoking.
Yeah.
Blue.
And then it clears up fairly quickly.
But yeah.
That's going to be fun to investigate what's causing that now.
But anyway, yeah, so that's my update.
Just sounds like a bit of oil getting past the rings a little bit.
Yeah.
Which is not like.
The starter motor was smoking.
Sorry, it's coming out of the exhaust.
Oh, okay.
Blue smoke.
Yeah.
If it's blue smoke that's getting past the rings, might be worth getting that looked
at.
I mean, it's had a compression test.
So like it should be, it should be okay.
It could just be getting tight, like tied rings.
Yeah.
Is that happening like under full throttle or anything?
Or is it just like?
Well, I can't see out the, out the window, I can't see anything, but I'm driving.
It just seems to be just when it's cold.
So.
Oh.
And then maybe before the oil warms up, it's thinner.
Yeah.
It's more prone to getting past the rings.
Yeah.
And then sometimes it's cold.
It's just occasionally.
So.
Weird.
Look into that too.
So.
Is it, if the car is cold or if the environment is cold as well?
No, no, no.
As in, if it's a warm day, it still does it not as much.
It's only if the engine's cold.
So if the cars are even different, I've just gone and stopped some back out again.
It doesn't happen.
It's only if it's cold.
Sorry.
When's your next service?
Jim?
Probably in three or four weeks.
I think.
It's worth growing up a viscosity level.
Yeah.
Just to see if that rules it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think your mechanic.
Yeah.
It wouldn't hurt it.
Definitely.
If you're only going one step up, it will not make a difference anyway.
So just let the mechanic know, I suppose, if whoever does the service and just go,
hey, can you just go a little heavier on the, you know, on the viscosity of the
oil and hopefully that clears it up.
Especially if it's just like on startup.
Usually that's your right turn.
It's, you know, if you were flooring it and it's just a magno, a magno worth of oil
coming out of the top part, then you're in, you're in big, big trouble.
But yeah.
Yes.
But I think, I think that'll.
Yeah.
I mean, try gobble a thing of viscosity.
If not try put some stop smoke as well.
You know, that seems to have helped a lot of customers.
We used to sell this product, this Rizzloin product in Super Cheap.
And this guy, this guy came in with this Commodore that he would beat the absolute
living crap out of this old 3.8 Commodore.
Like genuinely.
Never liked.
Never liked a hard life.
Never liked the 3.8 as you know.
And he came in and it was ticking off its head.
He's like, I think it's done.
And I'm like, try this stuff.
And it was this Rizzloin like stop smoke, but it was also like a,
like an engine repair and vertical commas.
It came, it came back the next day.
He's like, come outside and listen to this.
And it was like silky smooth.
He proceeded to continue driving it super-duper hard for the next two years.
The car lived on the red line, by the way.
Every service he just put a bit of that in it.
And it still went when he sold it.
So I was there.
I was never much for additives in cars, but that changed my mind.
That's great.
Yeah.
Genuinely, if there was an additive that worked.
That was the way.
The guy ended up swearing, but he's like,
it's the best thing I've ever used.
He's like, the car's running better than it is.
Is it the ring seal stuff?
I think it's that one.
Yeah, ring seal smoker bit.
It was like, it was like that one.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they also had a, they also had one in a different bottle too.
It was just like a real thick.
It was, it was, whatever it was, it worked.
So yeah.
That's incredible.
Would recommend.
It's worth a go for 12 bucks a bottle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
So Mr.
On the SuperSnipe Honda, not happy on startup.
Possible Magna purchase come this weekend.
Possible.
Yeah.
We're inspection.
Inspection.
Inspection.
Yes.
Inspection.
Where is it located?
Bendigo.
Okay.
Another corner from the Camry V6.
Yes.
Yes, actually.
Yeah.
Two on one.
Yeah.
Two on one.
Deal.
Okay.
So that's your updates, Jim.
Yes.
Thank you.
Very good.
David Prince, updates with you.
Updates with me.
Had a good run in the N1 on the weekend.
We had a car club drive planned.
Which was the twilight run down to Arthur's seat.
Started off in brilliant sunshine.
It was brilliant.
By the time we got to the fishing ship shop in Mornington,
it was chucking it down.
And not just raining, it was blowing a gale.
It was like, so we abandoned that and drove home instead.
But got the first bit of the drive in, which was fun.
Interestingly, the last time we did that same twilight drive,
same thing happened.
So like before we, same night.
So we still haven't got to Arthur's seat to watch the lights
come on, but that certainly wasn't the night to do it.
We had a, I also had the scamp out on Saturday,
went for a run down to the Kerr collection,
which is the coin-a-seg dealership in Sandringham,
which has just moved that our friend,
Giorgio Badaglini works at.
And so it was like an opening of that.
And a lot of Porsches turned up.
Not many Honda scamps, but one on one.
Was there a one?
Which was really cool.
And a lot of people said nice things about it
and pointed and laughed.
But after I did the little blurby bit that I spoke about
last time about the Dutton rally,
I just thought, this thing is really, really cool.
I should just drive, get in and drive it,
rather than leaving it tucked in the garage.
But so I did.
And it seemed like a little train.
It was great.
Didn't give me one problem.
Touch wood, thankfully.
Just trying to put a photo in the thing.
No, that didn't work.
Okay.
So I picked up the Odyssey this afternoon.
So the Odyssey had a fuel pump
and it's had a VTEC solenoid gasket replaced.
It was leaking a bit of oil out of there.
And it's had a crank angle sensor replaced, I think.
So it has no warning lights.
And it started and drove fine.
Absolutely fine.
It's like old times?
It's a bit dirty.
It's dirty than it said.
I remembered being picking it up.
I think I was picking it up from Greys.
And then the euphoria sort of dissipated.
And yeah, I'm just acing to get out there
and give it a good Bissell and a good scrub.
Bissell, yeah.
But the cool thing is I was looking at it this afternoon.
It's actually had the windows tinted.
I never did that.
It's got reverse camera fitted to it.
I didn't do that.
And it blew to, you know,
which I haven't even explored to see whether it still works or not.
But yeah, that was cool.
I picked up a couple of things.
It's got the roof rails on it,
which have an end cap on each rail.
So there are four of these end caps.
I mean, you'd never find them again if you needed them,
except for the two cars at Jolly's that had them.
Oh, really?
I actually have got the end caps for them.
Still don't have a final plan for that car.
Mr. Bunting's not on tonight.
We can speculate, but yeah.
Please it up and have a little play.
Is it going to be your new work van?
Have you decided on if that's for you?
I haven't decided on that.
Give me a weekend or so to just explore it
and just see how it would be really cool that was a work van.
It would be very cool.
Does it shift better than the Caddy?
Yes.
Well, that wouldn't be hard.
Beautably.
It wouldn't be hard.
Correct.
I actually really financed the Caddy bravely,
mainly because I've got a lot on the plate
and I just thought I can't even get my head around
getting a new car at the moment for a new work van
unless the Odyssey comes to the fore.
So there's only a small residual, so I just organised that.
But they offered me another three-year warranty
that mirrors the factory warranty.
I wouldn't believe a word of that, David Prince.
No, no, no.
Who's that through?
Well, that's through the dealer.
They have a number of...
They told me this is a special one we do that mirrors,
because we've got four Volkswagen dealerships or something,
that they mirrors the...
But it doesn't.
There's exclusions to it.
It's got to run through another company anyway, right?
Yeah.
It's not to wreck with the dealer?
That's right.
No.
This one is through the dealer.
Oh, it is.
Okay.
But it's $2,700 for three years.
Ooh.
It's a nice chunk of change.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I don't think I'll be doing that.
I think I'll just keep...
I mean, as I've said previously,
as annoying as this squeakyism,
the concern that I had that it was going to stop,
it hasn't stopped.
It's kept making the same sound.
It still makes the same sound.
So they tell me it's okay,
which they've told me after every service
where I've reported it.
Now the professionals after all.
Theoretically.
So I'll just keep driving it for now
and see how we go.
Very nice.
But yeah, I think that's all.
And I've just been sent something on Facebook,
Honda Acti, 1983 Honda Acti.
So what are the little cave-ins
that was actually sold in Australia brand new?
Back in the early 80s, $500.
Whoa.
Argan.
Jesus Christ.
Cave-in.
Shape.
It will...
It cranks, but it won't start.
I think that was what the...
I think that was the description
of it.
So I'll send it around the chat.
Someone's got a bit of a steal,
if that's the case.
Well, it was suddenly just being listed.
You could have it if you'd like.
Oh, man.
That's a cool...
It's cool just as like a...
Yeah, like a stealer it is.
Yeah, just like a showpiece.
Oh, you've had it.
Yeah, I've had it.
Yeah, I've found it.
That's you, David Prince.
That's me done.
That's good to know.
Me.
Not so much with my own cars
at the moment.
I did just give the...
I think every week it sounds like I
give the blade a wash, but that's because
of my dealings with that tree
and that weird tree sap stuff
that keeps falling on it.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's first world problems.
So I think I can live
with that happening for now.
Won't happen all year round.
And then I started to look into
the Kite and Car Club.
Oh, yes.
That popped up and they do
quite a few like races
and things set up on their dirt
track that they have.
Mm-hmm.
And they meet once a month
by the looks of it.
And they have like a junior program
as well that meets.
Mm-hmm.
And yeah, the way the dirt track
is that they just change up
the direction and everything like that.
So actually look really cool
and not wouldn't really cost you
a fortune to get involved
and have a bit of fun.
So thinking about using the 31 for that.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Have you looked at the
requirements?
Like what you can't each to have
for that sort of stuff?
The sub-regs and stuff.
The sub-regs, yeah.
Yeah.
Fire extinguisher, obviously.
Mm-hmm.
And just one of those
AASA license.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's it.
Don't need anything else.
That is as easy as it gets
for entry, isn't it?
Yeah.
I mean all the cars that I was
talking about the pictures of
are all just standard looking.
You know, there's a couple of 31s
in there.
There was people with their utes.
There was lances, just basic lances,
basic impresses out there
all the way up to a
a GR Yaris.
Yeah.
That was out there getting involved.
So big broad spectrum of vehicles
and they group them by engine size
and everything like that.
So they put you in the right kind of groupings.
Sounds like you get quite a good amount
of run time as well.
They organize that.
Yep.
So, yeah.
Have you ever done a motor car
before, Scotty?
No.
They're good fun.
They're good fun.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I kind of would like to get
involved in that for, yeah,
a bit of fun and something that's
not going to cost you
a bazillion dollars.
Scotty, is it tarmac only?
So grab a lonely.
And there's a bit of tarmac in it.
This one at the actual venue
is like just dirt.
Yeah.
But they go to other places up a bit
further like Broadford and stuff
where it's a tarmac.
Yeah.
Yeah, nice.
Awesome.
Yeah, we should do some tarmac stuff
up there too.
I had a feeling actually.
I don't know how old their website is.
I think Broadford's closed, hasn't it?
No.
In the last month or so?
I'm not quite sure.
Okay.
Maybe I'm making that up.
Hopefully I'm not.
But I was, yeah, somebody,
I'm sure somebody told me that there was
Broadford.
You could be right on.
I'm not sure how updated their
website is, but I mean,
at first I went to their Facebook
page and that was obviously
all recent with all the photos
and so that I saw then and then
I went on to their webpage from there.
Any club with a junior program
I reckon is great because
that club level motorsport
is just brilliant for kids.
You can get a, well,
I know with motorsport Australia
you can get a cams license from
12, I think.
That's why a club level motorsport,
low speed,
which motor counter is considered low speed
and yeah,
one of my sons went through it,
went through, got one early
and motor counted
Honda City for a number of years
and the difference with him
when he was on the road actually driving
on the road like and had
the car control thing down pat, you know
and and realize that
the
out in the wilds with the suburb is
not a controlled environment like a motor
corner field is.
As a result, he's a brilliant driver.
So yeah,
I really think that's a really
important aspect of a car club
and it's
not overly expensive as
opposed to
driving lessons.
That's right.
And you're only getting what your driving lessons
aren't even an hour, they're like 50 minutes.
That's right.
I think what I was doing it was 50 minutes
for about 60 bucks.
And I'm sure it's a lot more than that now.
Oh yeah.
I don't think it would be that anymore.
So yeah,
you get plenty of seat time and stuff by the sounds
of things. So I probably
go to one
and go to one to observe
first spectate and then suss it out
and ask some more questions to the people there
and just get a better understanding of what I need
to do
to make sure it's ready.
I'll probably use
the stop rims
I reckon.
I could just get some kind of decent tires
put on those ones and just swap it out
and just run the
stock rims on the gravel I think would work
the best. Yeah, especially with like
gravel stage or even like even with any motor
car really like you want the back end
from when the ones I've done you want it to be a bit loose.
So you can slide the car around
a little bit easier.
But
I think that's
I had the cheapies on the MR2 when I
took that the last time and yeah it was
very easy which was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
What was that like to try and catch it again?
Yeah, it was easy.
It's quite low speed
so like you know
it's very manageable
and
sometimes when it started to grip up
you'd give it a bit of a clutch kick
to just
to get the back end to come back around
and that was always fun.
But yeah, it was
like people say snap oversteer is
lethal and it
is to an extent but again at the low speed
stuff it was quite manageable. I found it very manageable.
What's the whole video
about that snap oversteer
and pretty much
proven to be
non-existent?
It's a driver error.
Yeah.
If you're lifting off in your mid-corner
or coming into the corner all the weight
transfers and that's what makes
it go up right around.
So
for that to happen
they haven't really driven a mid-engine car before
and to be fair I didn't really
drive any mid-engine cars until
the MR2. I drove
a
just something else mid-engine a while ago
I don't remember what it was but
yeah it was but I didn't push that car
but the MR2 I've pushed
and you can feel it
you can feel it work around you
it's like you're the center of the car
and you can see how and you can see
why people that wouldn't be used to that
or lift off and not power through
to a corner which
I can see how people
can make the snap oversteer
but the funny thing is though especially
with the SW20s the second-gen MR2s
they're known for their horrific
snap oversteer like the early ones.
They're heavier,
the weight transfer is more
unmanageable
yeah they're more powerful
you can carry more speed into a corner
so it all works against you
but yeah that's the thing
you can't drive it like a regular car
where you'd be like
lifting off and coasting
to a corner or doing that sort of stuff
it just doesn't like that
you gotta be like on power
through a corner to be
to not, for it to behave
like a car that you think
it should behave. And it's hard to trust a car
that you're not used to.
You have to change driving style.
Yeah absolutely.
But now the funny thing is
the SW20 Rev1s and Rev2
they really sought after now
because they were canned at the start
because they were too invertecom as dangerous
but now they're like actually these are the proper
driver's cars because they were
a bit more twitchy
they were a bit more lively and that's what
people kind of want so
it's a full circle for the MR2 in that instance.
Yeah and people are putting the
2GRs in them
and making
350 horsepower
without
anything. No supercharger
or nothing. They're pushing those engines
pretty hard so
there's a guy in the US
there's a guy in Queensland that's, I think
Turbo Yoda did one. He did
an Aureon swap like with the supercharged
2GR.
And the thing rips.
Apparently he reckons it's a better car to drive
than with the 3S GT here in it so
yeah.
And who doesn't want to get
the chance to do on a gravel to do a scan
in Avion Flick?
Exactly.
Yeah and if you stuff it up
who cares?
You're in a good environment where
you're allowed to make mistakes.
Oh absolutely and Scotty
you will spin.
I spun out a few times.
It was fun.
The guy before me
was in a MK3 Super Turbo
and he spun out
and he just kept his foot in it and just smoked
up the whole
and he was like
you looked at it when he came into the pit
before I went off.
He was laughing like a schoolgirl.
It was the funniest thing in the world.
It's an environment where
you're encouraged.
Big deal.
It's a bit of fun.
I mean it's the whole thing
by the looks of it is just
entry level fun.
It's not being a pro or anything
and that's kind of the atmosphere
that I want.
They're giving it a go for the first time.
Perfect.
And it's not as scary
as the tarmac ones
where they set up the cones everywhere.
Because I got no hope
remembering that stuff.
There's no way
my ADHD is not going to allow it.
It's very hard.
It's super challenging to draw.
Even the simplest layout
last time I did it was like
it's orange.
Come on.
I mean if I need to take a right
at one can you use that as like
a blue cone or something?
Help us out here.
I know.
I had that same issue
when I did my last one.
I was studying
the bloody maps.
That would give you all the different things.
It was the second last one of the day
and I ran one cone the wrong way
and he's like
you went around the wrong way
which one is that last cone?
How do you remember
the guy sitting on the side
you went around the wrong cone
like what?
I did not.
Show me the footage.
Go back.
Usually on a day like those
it's usually have about 6 or 7
different layouts.
So it's a lot to try and remember
my brain can't do that.
That's quite a bit.
It's good fun.
I would recommend giving it a go.
I'd be different.
I think we should
have fun.
That's what I've been doing there.
Still just doing the same
as Jim
and just keep looking on Marketplace.
I don't know.
It's just a habit I think
and just seeing what's popping up
and what's around.
What have I noticed?
Some cars
that you look at and you go
where are you pulling that price from?
I think some of them
are just kind of funny.
The way they ride
or the way they kind of
post it and then expect this top
dollar and they put up
the worst pictures
from the car ever.
The thumb is in the way.
Everyone's got
a kind of okay phone these days
so where did you pull this old
Nokia from?
It just doesn't make any sense.
Shot with a potato.
They've taken the photo
and then ran through a program
that decompresses it to
non-existent size
and then put it up to the computer
somewhere.
It's like printing and then
scanning it back to yourself
and then you know that.
Yeah over and over again.
It's just
mind boggling.
I think it's
good motorsport.
You can slide the back end around
and it'll be a lot of fun.
Even though it's single pegging
it should still have a bit of fun.
Oh yeah it'll do the job.
It'll still do it.
We can weld up the back.
Yeah exactly.
I was def-wielding.
Yeah.
Legend.
You'd be going around corners
like
but hey it'd be so worth it.
Imagine the sideways action
you're going to get.
It'd just be everywhere.
Nothing like a good solid rear axle as well.
Solid rear axle is really good for going sideways
just putting it out there.
Hey there was a
recent video actually
that I just watched.
If I can find it again I can link it
but though we're doing the whole
Mustang driving into crowds
and seeing if it's
the car's fault
in conclusion it's not this
driver error.
But it's
he was just
showing when it comes to solid rear
axles how
unbalanced it can be going over
certain bumps
and things on the track
and how you deal with it
how you drive it that little bit differently
and you can still go flat out over those bumps.
When you have traction control on
and you turn into a corner
and power it and it just loses control
with traction on
there's something seriously wrong with the design
of the car.
It's not working.
I'm talking about solid rear axle ones
this is before the new ones.
This is a modern Mustang
I'm
brand new Mustang.
Should we go on the older ones?
The older ones are probably better.
They would be.
It's funny because
this is
the Dossel Tones of Robb's Die.
He is
a perfect example of
when a car mustangs.
The newer ones
I know
the IRS ones they have that issue
where Ford inherently designed
it to be a little bit loose.
Yeah, change
caster or something
change camber angle
Yeah.
It's supposed to absorb the vibrations
and the type of rubbers they put into the suspension
in the back so it all moves around.
You've got active rear steering
with no control.
You've got no confidence
really.
That's terrifying.
So when the car wants the Mustang
you'd be like I wish I had a solid axle
I would have just put it up.
If you're in a straight line
you flatten it and you try to keep it
straight as long as you don't
mess up the geometry from left to right
and you're in a straight line
you should be okay. As soon as you put weight
on one side and power it
that's when you lose it.
That's probably what you see in a lot of the videos
is because they come out and
kick the side out
always and then that's it
and you see him kind correct it
but then you start over correcting
and then boop boop boop and you're gone.
No chance.
You would think you'd be able to power it
through. No.
It always seems to me when they like
change gear as well as soon as they go
from one gear to the second it just
snaps into a crowd. Yeah it's like
that's bizarre.
But they do it.
I don't know how they've met safety
design rules with traction control.
It doesn't work.
It should just kick in like
I know like
my cars would kick in
there's two ways traction control
works. Mine would
just cut, pretty much cut power
so it feels like it bogs down
and you kind of just like bang bang bang
and it kind of stops that way
and other ways
are a bit more softer
like I think the way
my blade works is
it cuts power
but it still lets you rev out anyway
while in the
skyline it would kind of
just hit like a pretend
rev limiter
to stop you.
To tell you the truth the FG XR6
Turbo would do the same thing if you
turn the traction off but if you leave it
on it's okay.
Work that out.
Interesting.
Rob, updates with you?
Sorry that's what
I was late today I've been
cracked the shits and I'm selling some
of my cars.
Solder W
108
That's gone already.
Sold that.
The guy that's doing it up
or bought it has got a beautiful
like a
300SEL
same vintage V8
which he and his son
are doing it up so I'm wrapped to let it go
at least it'll get done and he's a local guy too
so
it'll be good to see it done.
I just don't think I've got the time and patience anymore
especially with the CCC it's really doing my
heating. I told
Sid the other day that
pretty much don't worry about doing it, leave it
I'll do it myself.
I've had enough of it so I'll
try to get stuck into it myself somehow.
Have you still got the
long coupe?
That's
where I was this afternoon.
A guy called me last
minute to come around and have a look at it.
There's a couple people interested in that one
so that will go too.
If I focus on one car at a time
get one car going
and if I want another project
I've still got the Leyland
and I've still got an F100
if I want to do one up so
I've still got plenty of other cars to do
if I want to.
What's your old bins
the one that you drive to Cousin Coffee?
That's the one
that's fully restored
that drives and rides everything
because it doesn't need to be touched.
You're going to keep that one though?
I don't know
I'm getting to a point
what I want to keep
do I keep that one
get rid of my Mustang
get rid of the transit
for the other one
and then just go and buy myself a nice motor home
do Australia, sell the motor home
after I go around Australia
and just buy maybe a nice
four-wheel-drive
where we can do our
two or three weeks away
towing a little trailer
and stay at motels
rather than doing a big Australia trip
so that's the plan
but just get rid of some of the cars
need to downsize especially when
if you plan to retire it's hard to keep
six or seven cars
all maintained and paid for
when you're not working
yeah you are
even if you've got them on
you know, club plates
it's still a lot of money
just to keep them ticking over
especially when you can't actually
drive them as often and enjoy them
well that too
that's what retirement is meant to be about
yeah if you have retirement you can drive them more
but then you can't afford to drive them
more because
that's 22
yeah
you build
all these toys up over the years
and you get to a point in life
how I'm going to sustain this
how I'm going to maintain it all
it's a big one
it's sort of a fine line
you have just one or two cars you really like
and you want to keep them
keep them going and get rid of everything else
get rid of all the noise
because it's sort of like
even a P76 sometimes
you sort of lay down in bed and think about it
Jesus sitting there in a garage it's not doing anything
I want to get it going
it's sort of one of those things that really
does me hitting
as we discussed last week
we're getting that back alive mate
well there'll be space
soon enough anyway
down to the workshop to work on it
so we can get it down there
have a working bee on it and be able to work around it
absolutely
sounds good
so hopefully I'll sell the 280 CE
lost a couple hundred bucks
on the W108
but that's fine
it's going to a good
good home so I'm happy with that
father and son doing it up
that'll be nice
whereas my son
he just wants his lambos
and G wagons
and Ferraris or whatever
he doesn't want to work on any cars
he just wants something brand new
he's
a different mindset altogether
this generation
I know this generation that I'm talking to
you guys are unique
but
look he likes the old 300
I mean we wouldn't have bought it
I wouldn't have bought it if he didn't want part of it
so it's just one of those things
when I sold the Mustang
I said I'm not going to buy another car
and have that much money sitting there
but when this one came up it was
a nice car
and it was worth every cent
absolutely
there you go
but yeah hopefully I'll clear up some cars
and make some space
and be able to enjoy holidays
instead of being stuck underneath a car
changing oil
but you know six to seven cars
yeah it's
part of the part of the journey
part of the journey yeah
I don't know how you guys find time
some was done
some was done yeah
Chad
update
I had a bit of a magna mess up last week
so Thursday morning
I woke up
and me and my wife had to swap
car spots like my car was
in front of hers and she had to
go to the office
get in the cars
and move mine and then go to move hers
and you know sort of like parked
in front of my neighbours
door for a second and I walk back
and I say that she's got a flat tyre
I'm like oh great
this is bloody perfect timing
this is like five minutes before she has to leave
for like an important meeting
day thing
anyway I go inside and I said
really sorry
you have a flat tyre and
we all know that the new Honda's
don't come with spare wheels
anyway
so she's just
stressing it out a bit and I said
look you've got two options
you can either take an Uber
or you can just take the magna
and she's like well I'm just
going to take the magna
I got the car for her and I got it
out the front and you know
it was
no
issues that I could tell
anyway she gets in
loads all her stuff up
and then she's off to
drive to Talmarine
you know I didn't hear from her
because I was working
myself and
she messaged me I don't know
about 30 minutes later and she said
that car gave me maybe the worst
experience of my life
oh god what's happened
and she's like it just
lost power on the freeway
it just lost power and it wouldn't
like drive it was just like revving
so like just
like the gearbox just
connected
it was like it was in neutral
and I was like oh that's really weird
so I put it into park
in the middle of the freeway
on the ring road
and I'm like oh my lord
you know I
I don't know how bad that road is because I used to drive it every day
and
she's like anyway I got it going
I got it to work I linked it to work
eventually I was like alright jeez
I was really sorry what can I say
this is what happens when you buy thousand dollar cars you know
that sort of thing
anyway and so
kind of like left it for the day I was like
you know I'm hoping that
it will limp back home
I just told her to just take the back streets home
and you know and
anyway I was following her on the maps
and saw that she
stopped for like a little
longer than usual
this is after work like this is you know in the
PM and she messaged me
yeah it just it won't go like it's
it did the same thing
but it was thankfully it was on like a street
like you know a 60k
zone and she somehow got it
into like a side street and she's like I parked
it up and she's like please come get me
so
I managed to get her
car the tire
fixed that day like I took it
to a tire shop and
got a patch on it
and I drove it out there
and yeah sure enough
it just would not go like it
you'd select gear and it would
show on the dash that it's selected
and it just wouldn't drive like it just
won't move in any direction
with the accelerator
and it would just roll like in any gear
even I think even in park maybe it just
rolls and I was like okay this is really
weird I don't know what's going on with it
and yeah so I just
couldn't do much
connected or something from it
sounds like it yeah I don't know if it's like
talking about
issue or if it's
just like a computer type thing
really don't know
but I couldn't get it anywhere
from where she was because she was like at the bottom
of a hill and brought me those and had to
go up a hill and just a street hill
no I don't know what the hill is called
the end of camp road
yeah
so I just
I just called a tow truck and thankfully
because of shams roadside they just
they got it home and
yesterday
yesterday yeah
yesterday I didn't really have any time to look at it
over the weekend so yesterday
I went out after work and
I was just tinkering around
and I ended up calling the wreckers that I got
the gearbox from and just to get a bit of advice
from them and they just said
look could be a couple of things could be the TCU
could be
could be that it's like left in
overdrive or like stuck in overdrive or something
apparently if you like leave over
sorry if you have overdrive off
it won't select a gear
for some reason so it'll like you can
move the gear lever but it won't move it to anything
but from what I
could tell the overdrive was on
like it wasn't like stuck off or anything
yeah so that was functioning
as far as I could tell but
weirdly I started the car
again and then I just like put it into
drive and then I just started to like
rev it ever so slightly
and as the revs built up it actually
started to move so I'm not
sure what's going on there but there's something
mechanical I think
could be the converter
so I
I was parked in like
the guest spot at my
place so I wanted to move it
and because it started to drive a little bit
I was like I'm just going to limp it onto the street
just to make sure that
you know I could just get it out there and then
so I drove it out and actually
drove okay in like drive or like
first gear or whatever
and then I like pulled up next to the parking
spot and put it into reverse and it just didn't
drive at all
and my streets funny because it's like
it's three cars wide I've got the
cars on one side parked
and then on the other side of the road
and then your middle is like the thoroughfare
so I'm like stuck in the middle
and trying to like reverse into a drive
into a spot and I've got two cars coming
out of the way
so I just hopped out and I started to like
pull the car like it was because it was a neutral
I thought luckily it's like flat ground
so I just started to pull the car
yeah I was just like
man I've got to get this car out of this
you know out of this road
and sure enough there's like five cars
waiting and none of them
you know I'm not blaming anybody obviously
but none of them are offered to help
they were just waiting I was like
that's fine if you don't want to help
you're just going to have to wait
eventually some guy
in a range of pulled up and he was like
hey man do you want a hand I'm like yes please
anyway we managed to like maneuver the car
into a parking spot on the street
so you know it's out of the way
sort of thing but
so yeah that's
well it might get swollen
good luck you'll have to bring your own tow truck
so yeah
Magna is having some issue
and I'm trying to figure out what to do
and Paul Gatt who's
a magnet guru
he has some ideas
and yeah
essentially I'm just going to have to scan
the computer like the onboard
diagnostics of that car and to see if the TCU
is giving any sort of issues
has he got access to one of those
he actually said he's buying one
he's bought like a Mitsubishi one
oh jeez
yeah so I don't even know where you get those from
but it's an original Mitsubishi equipment
he's bought so just waiting for that to come in
and he said it'll pop over and
give it a scan see what's going on with it
apart from that
yeah I don't know
it's a bit of a weird one because it will drive
sometimes and then other times it just won't
like it'll drive and then it'll just like disconnect
and just rev like free rev
which is also be like
something electronic too could be to say hey
you got a box full of neutrals now oh no you're back now
yeah yeah yeah just like
yeah suddenly I've got
years and suddenly I've got five neutrals so I don't know
I don't know what's going on there
they have like some sort of solenoids don't they
and the solenoids either engage or don't engage
and if those solenoids aren't activated
yeah potentially it could be like
you know fluid driven
solenoids that are not
behaving and
I mean if that's the case that's a
that's like the
the what are they called you know the control
units and the transmissions they're like
very very dear stuff
so I'm not sure what's going on there
I'm gonna just have to
yeah it's still on the warranty thankfully which
they said that they would
honour and
they said just you know make sure the TTSU
is okay if not we can try to send
you on and then see if that fixes it
if not then we'll see what
we can do is still on the warranty so
potentially there's still more
to find out and see what's going on
so the manual swap might be coming
earlier than me well I mean
if it's gonna take another
transmission going to the car then it's just gonna have to get
manual swapped I'm just I'm sick of dealing
with automatics I'm sick of dealing
with humps of metal
that are doing like just disappointment
so I'm sorry to
any automatic lovers out there
I just can't I can't deal with it
no that's all the car updates
yeah nice yeah what about you mate
well I was driving the Camry
all last week and this week
giving it a good
shakedown before classic Japan
next weekend just getting
getting close it is
it is so
Ed Matthews
motors will make its debut
at this event
we've got a few things organised ready to go
I set off the
the window balance to get printed
so I should have them by this week
but yeah it should be a good event
it's got Jim and Rob
and Chad are you guys heading down to
we'll be there
still be here because we're heading off
to Abu Dhabi in a couple weeks
so
nice
Abu Dhabi dude
Scott are you heading down
yeah
bring the 31
I shall be
Jim what are you bringing
just bring the EK
I'm trying to work out potentially bringing
a passenger princess with me or not
I'm not sure yet but yeah
that's the 30th
I was a bit stressed I got the weekends wrong
I turned down a wedding to go to this
so
nice
it's more important things out there mate
than weddings
who's been married on a Sunday afternoon
like seriously
that's cool
I really bought my tickets mate
sorry
David Prince what are you bringing
I haven't decided yet
that's the problem
it's flush for choice isn't it
it'll either be the Grand Prix Civic
or the Scamp I think
yeah nice
be a good driver for the Scamp to get it there
it's good yeah yeah
well it's quite close to where
my kids live so I might even
just get it halfway there
on the Saturday
15 minutes from their place
very nice
mate you didn't ask me
I might take my dad's Yaris
yeah 100% yeah
it's Japanese
it's gonna be 25 years old
it's still too new
it's an early model Yaris
it was one of the first generation ones
where it was the
the ECO
the first gen Yaris was like
2007
geez
a few years yet
have you got a starlet Rob?
a what?
have you got a starlet?
no I haven't got the starlet
that would work that'd be old enough
okay no no just a Yaris
so Rob I want to ask you a few things
so you worked at Toyota
from what years
1987
to 90's
those years are on point Matthew
yep I know you're
absolutely you could be our salesman
or our
engineer
service manager
what did you do there Rob?
I was in the engine plant and I was in QC
so quality control
so from
the castings
a lot of the
like intake manifolds
heads
and water pumps and bits and pieces
to the machining of the
the fly wheels
and machining of the blocks
because the blocks were actually cast
in I think ACL in
SA
and then in the CKD parts of the
Camrys as well which were Japanese
the knockdown parts
were from Japan
which we used to check as well
so I'll take it back to quality control
and do all the measurement for ovality
surface roughness, deck heights
water galleries, oil galleries
check all that sort of stuff
and then CC the heads
make sure the heads were the right volume
the right ovality
check the rings, ring gaps
and all that sort of stuff
and all sorts of things like that
I had a photospectrometer
to do all the
metallurgy to make sure the aluminium
was casted
make sure we had the right
elements in it
but
what else
more measurement, we used to cut up blocks
and then sort of slice them up
and then make sure that the actual
water galleries are far enough away from the actual
the bores themselves
and stuff like that
we used to do all sorts of things
there was a lot to it
we used to even check wiring looms
sometimes we would check some panels
and stuff like that and from the press shop
to make sure all the panels
are all with intolerance
yeah nice
what were the main engines that you looked at
the 4S and the 3A
most
I don't know exactly
what, I'm sure there would have been other codes for it
I think it's 3A
so 4A and 3S would be
4A and 3S yeah
so there's Camry
TwinCam 2L engine
because it
those didn't they
they did
so they would have been
2L TwinCam Camry
and 4A would be a 1.6L
it's probably a 4A FE
so
1.6L
4 cylinder
corollas and stuff
so
what was the 1300
I don't know that year but I didn't know if
1600s
they're still making
I think G heads
as well something or making some other
components as well for other motors
that we didn't necessarily assemble
and we're
actually casting them and then sitting at the Japan
but I think it was more of a
way of
exporting aluminium
with no tariffs
so they'll send
dud heads across there and say well
these are all defects so you just have to ride them off
and
just chuck them in a forge and melt them down
over there and use them over there
nice very clever I love that
yeah
so
Rob I've got a few questions about
your time there because
we're trying to get Ed Matthews motors official
it's pretty important
these are the questions we need answers to
now
in terms of the level of quality
at Toyota because
Toyota is known
synonymous with quality, reliability
was that always the case even back then
was like jeez
I'm getting bored I want to choose that engine because none
of the engines seem to be faulty
or was it quite often you say that's
a faulty engine
I think the quality
was good the guys
on the machine line
just wanted to keep on pushing the engine blocks through
because they had a quota to meet
a couple hundred blocks a day
to get to the machine line
I'd normally stop the machine line for the blocks
they're getting at the top end
or of their tolerance
so they'll actually start
the ability wasn't right
when I'm machining it and honing it
it was actually starting to
get on the right
on the top end of the tolerance
you normally want to bring it back in within
central to that tolerance so you got a bit
of play
so
they were sort of pretty slacky not retooling
and changing
the tools on the tool posts and stuff like that
when they're boring at the blocks
the actual
the stones and the honing machines and the honing tools
weren't
adjusted so therefore
it was actually starting to
not
be consistent throughout the bore
because
it was a bit too big at the top a bit too slow
or wasn't exactly round
as it should have been because it wasn't honing it
properly
they used to hate
when I come around because I'd stop the line and say
hey bring it back into tolerance
and it was normally
between shift changes too the night shift
will run it into the ground and day shift in the morning
when you roll up
we'll have to then retool it all and they used to hate it
they always used to say
the morning shift to fix
so that would
that would push them behind then wouldn't it
every time yeah to push them behind
but you had to do it
you know so
quality wise
look there were some issues with
the surface roughness
and finish of flywheels
but they picked them up pretty quickly because the quality was there
but so you
you get the odd
dud that will get through with a block
or an issue with a casting that got
missed
and luckily sometimes they get picked up
and then they'll pull those blocks back
and then check all the blocks to make sure
that the casting is okay
but they did have some bad batches of casts
where the data points in a way sat on the block
when it sat on the
actual
the jigs in the machine line
wouldn't line up properly so the boars would get too close
to the water galleries or something wouldn't line up
or so they'd have to scrap a whole lot of
blocks
but again they get picked up
you get the odd bait at the might
slip through the cracks
but very rarely I thought
they're pretty good
the quality was good they had a pretty good system
with
with the kaizen system
and everything else that they had from
selecting the parts
and having the right pistons
selected for that tolerance
bore so there would have been all three tolerances
within the same
allowances so
you could have put a
2,000 bigger piston
into the bore
because there's enough tolerance there
but they would actually try to select the right size
pistons and they had them color coded
and stuff like that so they'd measure them
and have the right size pistons for the right size
blocks even though it'll still
standard bore
they won't 10th hour, 20th hour or anything like that
but they'll actually
it was almost like blueprinting
so that's how
good it was
otherwise they could have just put any piston into
and it would have been too tight too loose
within that standard
tolerance but still within that tolerance
were the engines all still made by hand
or were they
well they're all
once the blocks were machined
they'd go into the machine line
the assembly line
and the various boxes would be loaded
up across the assembly line as they go through
so the pistons and rings
the conrods and pistons were
and the rings were put on and they were actually
popped in by a guy
with having some
assistance with some tooling to push them all
through and put them in a lot quicker
than you would do them individually
I think they used to do one bank
the whole bank at one time
with some Teflon guides and stuff like that
used to put all the pistons in
and they had guides to make sure
they didn't damage the crank when the crank went in
like the rods went into the crank
so it wouldn't damage it
it was done well
thought out in the production line
like where they or the assembly line
the thing is if one that had a
hiccup somewhere it'll sort of
they could pull the block off the line
and keep the line going
and then fix it and then put it back onto the line
on recollections a long time ago
but the whole process is real good
and then they had
they'll pick an engine off the block
every day and do a dyno test on one of those
engines
and I don't know if it was once a week
they would all strip down on the engine
run it dry
no oil
try to blow it
and then we'll measure it all up to make sure
to see what's actually happened to that motor
so there would be a full dyno test
on a selected engine
and there will be engines that actually
take off the line to dyno test it
pull it down put it back together
then put it back into circulation
so that would have been more of a hand built
tested checked motor
wider quality team that would be one motor
who makes that call
that we'll choose that one over there
number three
there was a fixed schedule for all the different checks
and you go through that
cycle of checks
for that schedule once a week you cut up a block
once a week
every day you would do all the
tolerance tests on the bores
on the machine line to make sure everything's all right
and then you'd even go on
the simply line where they
where they lay down the
the silicon
onto your sumps and onto your various other parts
we'd actually lay it on a bit of paper
and measure it all and weigh it to make sure it was all
spot on so you're not getting too much
or too little silicon
applied onto the block
or onto the sump when it goes onto the base
there was a lot of things like that
were all checked and double checked
and there'll be
a schedule to do that
one in 100 or one in
1000 or
there'll be a whole lot of different checks
again it's a long time ago
it's really stretching my memory now
it was some
35
are you explaining it really well
and then
the actual
the smelters and
the aluminium casting lines
and we checked the sand cores
make sure the sand cores were
basically casted the right way
or they actually put the sand cores into the
the die to pour aluminium around
the intake manifold or around the heads
or whatever they're doing
and then would take
sampling aluminium
sample aluminium blocks and then check
the actual metallurgy
within that aluminium block to make sure it's got the right
percentage
of different magnesium and everything else
that's in it
that's really cool
I find that stuff fascinating hearing someone
on the side of a
that worked for the company
so was this all at Altona?
All at Altona
they used to
assemble them like build the engines
in the press shop in Altona
and then the cars were built I believe in Dandenong
at that time
I think they had a place in Port Melbourne
I don't know what happened or exactly
because it never went out to those sites
but Dandenong was the main one
where they built the Corolla I believe
and put it all back to Altona
at the end
that was well several probably 10 years
after I left
so my mate
we should be getting him on the show one day because he was
with Toyota
from
until he retired in his 60s when they shut down
so he was there before I even started
back in the late 80s
when they first opened up
and he was in the press plant
and he used to maintain all the dies
for the press shop for all the body panels
yeah well
we were just seeing some stuff
so he would be
he'd know a lot about the multi-stage tooling
and all that sort of stuff with the dies
and everything else and he'd maintain all the dies
and he used to run the whole crew to maintain
those dies in the press shop
massive presses
like
two stories high and
fully automated stuff that would pick up the panels
and put it on the next panel and then cut it
and go through
four or five stages maybe
but yeah
it was good times
the guys were great, it was a great place to work
management were a bit
sort of hit and miss
you ever run a good side of them, a bad side of them
and then they changed as well
so
but there were a lot of strikes at that time
there was a lot of talk
about restructuring the automotive industry
back in the 90s
there was a lot of
we'll go through that phase
of
pulling back on government support
for the automotive industry even then
they're talking about it, the button report
and all that sort of stuff
that occurred back in those days
so
there were a lot of strikes
for me that's such a
like
an important time of the automotive industry
in Australia
there was so much going on
there were so many manufacturers building cars
here in Australia
so many kind of companies
sharing cars, the button plan in particular
I mean
obviously a lot of us
were around at that time when this was happening
but did you feel
when you were working, you said obviously the strikes
but like
what was the people's reaction
and David you can jump in
on this as well
what was the general feeling
of the automotive landscape
a lot of uncertainty
so you didn't know if you had a job
because you had done a lot of restructuring
I left on
one of the free rounds of redundancies
and I said
I don't need this
striking all the time
I'm trying to get married, start a family
build a house and everything else
I can't afford to do that
it's alright when you're single
you might be able to
if you're living at home for mom and dad
you've got no commitments
or you're not locked into any debt
that's fine but
when you start needing money for a living
to pay for the bills
you don't want to be in that situation every day
you don't know if you're going to
have a job next month or
if you're on strike
you're not going to get paid for the full week
and so on
so when I put my hand up
for redundancies
they said
fantastic, I'll go beauty
I was hoping to go on a dole
I've never been on a dole before
regular
unfortunately I got a job within that week
I got a job and I was there
it was that place for
close to 15 years before
that industry shut down
and that was Kodak
wow
this is 1990 you left Toyota you said didn't you
yeah
that was around
when was the recession we had to have
that was sort of that time too
that time it was yeah
I just bought a block of land
it was
probably a little bit later
I think I bought the block of land
and
they were pretty tough times
that recession period
interest rates were all high
but they were good times too
the people that you worked with over there
is what kept you there
and not so much management
and so much to me it was just another job
you hear that a lot
I've spoken to a few people
whether they've worked at Ford's
or with Toyota
they always said it was the people
you worked with that made you want to
stay there it was a good time
it was a good era
we saw that in Adelaide didn't we
we did
at Magna 40
the family atmosphere
of that place was incredible
we made lifelong friends
and I speak to quite a few of those guys from
Toyota
to a point where
we had same interest jet skis or motorcycles
so we'll rig our jet skis into work
and it'll be a strike that day
so
as soon as there's a strike
jumping our cars straight down to
Port Phillip Bay and it'll go jet skiing for the day
we made a most of those strikes
I can mark
I remember
my friend Mark was telling me
his dad worked at Ford since
the early 80's all the way
to when they shut in 2016
and
he remembers
I remember speaking to his dad
I remember it clear as day
1987 the XF Falcons
of all time
best selling car in Australia
and the people at Ford
the heads were saying
you guys are going to have a job here
we're going to shut their production
in the early 2000's
everyone laughed at them
he's like how can you say
we're selling the best car
what do you mean we're going to shut down
he's like they knew
about this sort of stuff back then
they had the 10, 15, 20 year old
plan
100%
just when you mentioned
interest rates it reminded me
we leased a car in
we leased an SV21 Camry CSX
manual wagon
in 1990
it was a
89 or 90
our daughter was born in 89
we needed a wagon
because I worked in the industry
I thought I was hit in a bit
I managed to negotiate
a lease rate with a 19% interest rate
geez
I thought that's pretty good
I mean that's something
really good
imagine that today
oh god
they'd lock you up for being accepting
and saying that I went to the US
prior to working with Toyota
because I used to work for another company
called TAA
so I used to get pretty good airline tickets
and I used to fly to the US
and other places around the world
but the interest rates in the US back then
was 0%
what
0% for a car finance
they couldn't give it away probably
back in the 90s
that's wild
and here we are paying 19%
I couldn't believe it
when I came back I said I'd never buy a car
under finance for that sort of money
I'll be driving my P76 forever
it's crazy
I didn't mention between
jobs between working at Kodak and Toyota
I actually applied for a job
as a quality control inspector
at Ford
and I actually got an interview
and they go oh yeah that job's gone
that's been taken up
but we've got a job for you
in the tool room
okay thanks but no thanks
I wanted to get off the tools
I don't want to be on the tools anymore
and I rejected that job
and then took up the Kodak job
which was
believe it or not still sort of on tools
but it was in research
and development so I got to
use AutoCAD and do
CAD design and
build other stuff
so I've sort of learnt a little bit
more going into that job
and that's how I got into facilities through Kodak
because we had 20 odd buildings to look after
because you were a fitter and turner
weren't you Rob?
yeah
so I used to work with press tools
so I used to make
even in my job as an apprentice
I was never far away from
automotive industry
I used to make the dies my boss
that ran the company he owned it
had some good contracts so we used to build
the dies to press out door hinges
for Toyota
dies to make all the battery terminal
lugs for Ford
we used to build the Unimog
Chessie rails in our press shop
oh well get it out
I was always in the car industry
even before I got into the car industry
so I understood
a lot about the tolerances and cars
and being tool making you work within
Microns and
you make the XD walk door handles
no because the door handles were cast
weren't they or plastic molded
they were cast
yeah so no
that would be
correct answer
it's another discipline injection molding and casts
die casts
again it's another discipline all together
within the tool making field
you ever go into plastics and injection molding
die casting and other stuff
like that and then you've got press tools
so I don't be a apprenticeship in press tools
I made all those car components
but I wanted to actually
get into injection molding in plastics
because I thought that was the future
and in a way it is
or was until
3D printings come along
and other things come up
my dad does
that's all you do that Scotty
yeah he just
pretty much runs and looks after the
the machines and keeps them going
that create all the
tools and stuff
he's been doing that for
20
to 30 years in different
jobs and things and
where he's at now he's kind of semi
retired and
it's hard for
these places to get that experience
of people with that experience now
so he was
a bit sought after
so he got to kind of make his own
own rules
oh we need you to
do night shift he's like I don't do night shift anymore
he's been doing night shift ever since I was a little
kid
since I was born so
the thing was
when I went through the industry everything
was analog
there used to be
patent makers that made patents
for your
penegraphs to make your machine
so you have to
make a plaster pattern
to make all your casts
and you actually
make a plaster basically out of
plaster and then you'd actually follow that
on a penegraph machine and machine it out
onto a piece of steel
manually had to do it
like now there's CNC machines
there's more program
and it's all done right and it's all a
whole lot of programming zeros and ones
which we never got into
and I was right on that
cusp of when they went from
analog to digital
and to get
machines are so expensive back then to get that
sort of job and to try and find a place
to do that which was near
unimpossible in my time
it was a few and far between but I don't know how you
dare got into this, you might have been at the right
time at the right place
to get into it
well we used to live in Bendigo
so he
worked at Sandhurst Farms
so it was all to do
with the plastic bottles
or your milk and everything like that
so they did the whole lot there
and all the blow molds and blow molds dies
yep he did
he did all that and then we moved up
this way and
he's worked at a place called
Cryovac for a long time
that did quite a lot of the plastics
and plastic bags and things like that
and
it's amazing to watch did you go have you ever seen it
Scotty? Yeah, yeah, yeah
there was times where
you'd have to work a little bit extra
because he was doing two jobs at one instance
at another
place where he was pretty much running the machines
setting them up to do the bottles
and changing them over from 2L to 4L
and all that so I'd be there
late with him
watching it all and how it's all done
and watching it how it's all pressed
and the little changes he has
to do because it's not set right
and you're like oh my god
it's amazing to see
the amazing part is now
when they're building cars from the time
of design to manufacture
they used to do it so quick
and everything was done by hand
and everything like now
they've got machines for everything and it's still taking just as long
I don't know
yeah
it's just it's crazy but
the stuff that they do
these days the accuracy
it's insane
it's just full on
I love hearing
people like you guys talk about this
or stuff because
we're going to look back in 20 years
and a lot of this is all dead art
it doesn't exist anymore
every time I say some of that's worked out
like a
in the industry
whether it be on the assembly line
or what have you I think it's fascinating
it's from a time
where you get to
we did things and
you know
it's really impressive
my question to you guys is
before we get to the car quiz
there's been a lot of talk of Australia
bringing back some sort of vehicle manufacturing
seeing as we've got walking shore
which is they're busier than
they've ever been
which I don't know if you guys have seen that
I saw that little news video clip
of their expansion
how many people they're hiring
which is great it's insane
it's great it shows that
they're still a market for things here
Prem card
to do the same thing like they're
going gang bosses
modifying and upgrading
and doing all these things
it shows that there is still
that possibility
you were mentioning earlier Rob CKD
so they're
they're knocked down kits right
so you know why can't we do
those yet is it
you know
lay the costs
and the government
red tape
to import all this
stuff and tariffs to
it just kill it
there's just too much red tape
you should see
if you ever try to import a part
a car part that's
go through the customs list
of what you can and can't import
and it'll kill you
it is just a nightmare
to navigate your way through importing something
I know when I brought in some
fiberglass parts from
our Mustangs when I went to SEMA
I found we found this
nice infill for the
inner skirts and quarter panels made out of fiberglass
for the current model
Mustangs made in America
and the import
tariffs that I wanted to charge us to bring those parts across here were just
ridiculous
and I had to actually show
this part's not manufactured in Australia
there is no industry for this particular
component for this car
therefore you're not going to charge me
50% tariff you're going to charge me
10% GST
and did they oblige
or did you have to pay the 50%
no no they obliged because I showed them
where I had to go through the regulations
and get on the government websites
look at all the import requirements for
specific car parts and there's
thousands of line items
and they have to fit in a certain category
yeah it's these things
called tariff concessions
so I used to do this
as part of a job that I used to do
and it is
a minefield to
navigate people
sometimes you get people just trying to bring in stuff
and you know they just don't know
any better because
it's not out there for you to know right
but like Europe you had to like sort of navigate
this minefield of things
you're like okay well that
part's not made in Australia so I can
potentially bring it in without any duty
but then you've run into
issues like what's it made from how many
what percentage of that product is
made in America
where the components that make the product
come from and it's just
like intertwined
thing of like a web
problems that you have to like sift through
it's a bloody nightmare
but yeah
sounds like Rob got to the end of it which is
just like a tariff concession which you go
once they ruled out
everything else to be like okay well
there's no one else that can make this heal
there's no
where no one here that can
even produce it
or has like the ability to
or the knowledge to
they have to get down to that sort of level before
doing any duty for this
we don't make anything here anyway so
what's the point of them charging
charging us like this
that's a ridiculous thing
the point of that is that
even the little amounts of things
that we do make here it's to protect
that so it used to be even
worse it used to be like
you want to bring in an intake manifold
like Rob used to
work on them in Toyota
but we make them here so
bringing it in you're going to have to pay duty on it right
so it used to be
even worse but now that manufacturing
has actually died off for the most part
it's
easier to some degree to bring things in
from around the
around the world to Australia
but then you still run into these things and it's like
well have you tried sourcing it here
or have you tried getting it sourced to
to be made here
and then it's just like yeah it's just this whole thing
of like customs just want their piece
they want their slice
of the cake
and yeah it's a lot of red tape
is it just with any parts and stuff
like if you want something from an American website
pretty much it really boils down
to every little thing you can bring in
so they look at it and go
there are some exemptions already
like if it's a known thing of
like I don't know
just trying to come up with something like
the best
example I can give is anything
made from aluminium
has got massive duties applied
to it in Australia because
the aluminium industry
in Australia is
very highly protected so
they will do everything to try
and charge you as much duty as possible
because you are getting something
made overseas
made from aluminium instead of
sourcing it here where it would cost you
even more money
but you are not paying that from the duty
that makes it up to what it will cost to
make it here anyway
but yeah there are very specific things
that you just can't get in Australia or made in Australia
so then that's where
those tariff concessions come into play
so for example
NSXs were so expensive
it's an aluminium
so let's say if I'm ordering parts and rock
order which I've done numerous times
they do put the Australian tax on it
are they taking into account that
is that what they're doing
not necessarily
they're probably just giving you a rough guide
of what it's going to charge you
just based on
5% duty on most consumer goods
and 10% GST on everything
basically right
potentially you can't fight those things
if you're bringing in
10,000 units of something
and it's charging you 5% duty
that's a lot of money
it's going to get into your profit
but if you can somehow prove
that I can't get this made in Australia
there's no one that will do it etc
and then that becomes a tariff
exempt item
and then you actually get to bring that in
without any duty
and offer as an item
in Australian marketplace
so rock order is very
general in terms of what they say
but like
it's just kind of like the
exemption for a personal item or one-off item
so it works out already in several items
so a lot of components
that's the thing, if they think that
you're trying to
make it a commercial thing
that's where they'll sting you
but if it's like well I'm just bringing one for personal use
or whatever right, that's usually fine
for most cases
I thought I'd save money and I'd buy a couple of them
because my mate wanted one, I wanted one
and they come in several pieces
and they were fairly big
I thought easy to ship it all in one hit
what I saved on shipping
I was going to pay on the other end
for tariffs and everything
because I said no
it doesn't meet all that criteria
it's personal, it's one for me
one for my mate, we were there
so I had to write a whole lot
a bit bullshit to it on my holiday
it was just crazy
car parts
just car parts
well I think we've all learned something here today
this has been a very
I thought I'd finish with something
depressing as well
absolutely
best way to go out Scotty
because it kind of connects
with all of this and the industries
with things going all automated
I
had a PD last
Friday
and it was looking at
future
of schools, future learning but also careers
because
you're thinking about
what are you teaching kids these days
it's normally
thinking about jobs in the future
what could be occurring
and there's some interesting statistics
looking at
so right now
47%
of the we're talking about
this is a worldwide thing that they've
done, 47%
of
majority of the industries and businesses
is still run just by
humans
so that's 47%
30% is a combination
and 22% of that
is technology
now by 2030
47% that is just done by humans
is going to drop all the way down to
33%
that big of a difference
is that at the current rate of
like
growth
in that space
so they actually talk to a lot of
huge companies to get all this
data and what they're doing
what their plan is
looking forward and the technologies
that's being used
now and being created
now to create this
kind of scary projection
of what's going on
and it's
combination and it goes up by 3%
from 30 to 33
and then you've got full technology
from that 22% to 34%
and that data breaks down into
certain industries as well where you
can see it cops one a lot
so even people
wanting their first jobs in retail
there's going to be a lot that's going to be shifted
to automation
and we can already kind of see
that when it comes to your
registers and things like that
automotive sector
will be a pretty good hit
in that too
that's what I was going to get on to the
automotive sector
that's gone full circle
because they went full of high level
of automation in Japan
and then they wound it back a bit
to have the human
interaction
so they've actually wound it back over
a period of time to get that right balance
so I think you need that
and then the human
factor is actually maintaining the robots
so you get more labor
involved in maintaining the machinery
there is a job transfer
instead of like replacement
that's what's probably going to happen for
most cases
replacing people
the problem is
when you've got those machineries
you don't need as many people to look after
them
you might have had say
let's just say 20 people
working in that job
you replace it with machinery
and then you probably only need two people
to maintain it
to maintain and keep that going
so that's kind of the push
I mean even
there's still plenty of jobs out there
that machines can't replace
that still need a lot of
human interaction
skills and everything like that
which is good but
it was just really interesting to see
such a major difference
when 2030 is not really that far away
we follow this study and all that
is there going to be a higher demand
for electricians or less
not sure on that data
have a look I haven't gone through the whole document
because it's about 400 pages long
can you program a computer
to read it and summarize that for you
AI I love you
there's actually a really good program
called Helper Bird
and it's actually good for people
with dyslexia
and that as well with reading it
so it will change the colour
of the background to help them
it will put the lines in there
for them under the words to help them stay
where they are for reading
and it also can summarize documents
and stuff for them as well
really cool Helper Bird
so yeah it's great
Jim what were you going to say
first thing to add
I know it's not specifically about cars
but in the discussions about
the winding up of manufacturing here
I don't know
if a lot of podcast listeners know
but if they
and I know it's a car related podcast
but if for whatever reason they are stuck with
perhaps the less some ideal situation
of catching a public bus
and anywhere they see that it says
Volgren they're still made in Australia
oh really
yes so there's a manufacturing facility
in Dandenong, Brisbane and other places as well
they still make
bus bodies for a whole range of manufacturers
and they've just delivered
one which is an electric BYD
chassis as well
and we also still make Dath, Mack
and Kenworth here too
yeah we do make Kenworth
but yeah any Volgren bus you get
on that's made in Dandenong
at least the ones locally anyway
and I also drive past
the Iriza headquarters in Paganum too
and they make more of the buses
and coaches and stuff too
we don't make cars obviously
but it's still good to know that we do make something
when I do step on a volg when I go
oh it's local you know it's sort of a treacherous
it was good
Hitwerves and I know even Kat
were making trucks at one stage
but a lot of the parts were brought over here
and I was assembling them
yeah I think that's the most
for the most case especially the truck world
yeah
Kenworth, Dath and Mann
so it wasn't Mann, it wasn't Mack
the other thing too actually which I think
made truck sales a bit harder of course
when they changed legislation to have B-triples
he sold less trucks then
yeah
because he got an extra trailer
so that was impacting sales for a while
may have recovered now but for a while it was
definitely impacting sales
why was it impacting Jim?
was it just the
what beforehand instead of having
three trucks to tow two trailers
we need two trucks
oh you mean the number of the actual prime
that makes sense
that's true
well let's try
not be morbid anymore
with history
he thinks you're making it sad
you're welcome
I think
it was really impressive
just to hear Rob
tell us
how we used to work in the industry
yeah that was cool
it's something that we don't get often
it was a really nice
maybe now and then you meet people who have
done something in the
automotive space
my neighbour across the road that I just got talking
to one day he designed the fuel tanks
that went into the A
and the B-series
yeah he did like the plastic moulding
and all that stuff that for them
and he was talking to me
and then he worked for a company
called VDO that do all the instrumentation stuff
and I was like
you really like
work deep in the industry
so you're out there
and anything with a B-series
a fuel tank that's my neighbour
across the road
well
so whatever I need an issue
with my B-series
hey mate listen
how do I fix this tank
I remember when they came out there was this
they've got plastic petrol tanks
wow rubbish is that
are they driving around
with one that's just rusted
just sucking rust
into your fuel pump
yeah
I'm going to add an extra bone
I'm going to add the first bonus question
at the start
it's like it's time for the quiz
I want to turn this way so Chad
doesn't see the scores
the thing is we mentioned plastic fuel tanks
question one
this is the first bonus question
what was the first car ever
to feature a plastic fuel tank
the first car ever like worldwide
well the first car in the world
to feature a plastic fuel tank
I was going to say XD Falcon
Rob you were correct it was XD Falcon
what
the XD Falcon was the first car
XD Falcon
was the first car to feature a plastic fuel tank
jeez
I know it was pretty unique
for it's time but I didn't know it was the world's first
yeah it was very unique
it was early 80s
well it was developed in the late 70s
oh right wow
79 XD came out
but first car
to feature a plastic fuel tank
it was a bit of a change from Ford
because all steel bumper cars
they went to plastic bumpers, plastic grill
plastic fuel tank it was a bit of a big thing
there's like an old documentary
video I was watching about them
they were testing they were filling them with water and ice and stuff
they were just dropping them
they have like one
see how they hold up
so Rob
you were on the board
you were on fire last week Rob just putting it out there
he did win so
question number two
in the movie I Am Legend
by Will Smith
he drives what car
in the abandoned city
the Audi isn't it
not in I Am Legend
not in that first scene
abandoned city
abandoned New York
BMW i8
you guys are thinking other Will Smith movies
this is pre-slap
pre-slap
pre-slap
pre-slap
yeah I actually watched this movie so
I didn't like it
I can't remember
it wasn't bad until the ending
that's the way they end it really
but anyway
Ford Mustang
I'll give you a point
bonus question
what speck of Mustang was it
Rob
Fox body Mustang
it wasn't a Fox body Mustang
if you give me the badge that would be good David
Shelby
yep that's half right
it's a quarter of a point
it is a Shelby something
it'll be 500
I'll give it to you
question number three
the Mustang Mach-E
the Mustang Mach-E is outsold
by the Tesla Model Y
how many to one
I'll give closest to
oh Chad
so Chad says 10 to 1
25 to 1
I'll go in between I'll go 12 to 1
12 to 1 says Rob
I'm gonna say
28
28 to 1 says Scotty
he wants you doing Scotty
Jim
I'll say 15 to 1
15 to 1 the answer
is 46 to 1
46
to every one
Mustang Mach-E
so that gives you Scotty the point
it's closest to
it's kind of embarrassing actually
question forward has announced
what model will be sold
earlier than expected in Australia they announced
earlier this week David David
will it be the new Fiesta
I wish
no
I should be interested in Ford for a change
again if that was the case but no
might not be right but
the new heavy duty Ranger
yeah I'll give it to you Rob
it's the super duty Ranger
I saw it on a track today
oh really here you go
I couldn't work out what was
written across the like in relief across the
front of the bonnet there you go
you know and it was
it was a funny color it was like
it was like a like a top
yeah yeah like a banana
re yellow sort of rage
is it based on F 150
that's based on a Ranger but just like
heavy duty like it's got like crazy towing
capacity oh really
it's called the super duty
three and a half
I think it's like 4.5 ton
I think it's something ridiculous
which is insane you shouldn't be
absolutely into like
light vehicle
territory doesn't it yeah
pretty much dude it's a pretty heavy duty thing
anyway next question question number five
Tyrese in the movie too fast
too furious drove
what car Chad
to be she eclipse it did
spider spider that's
the extra point Chad there you go that was my
bonus for the bonus
so question number six by the end
of 2025 a
Dutch company is planning on releasing a solar
powered car using the name
from a famous Pixar character
what is it what's the name of the
Pixar character
Scott is it
Wally Wally I wish it was
but no it's incorrect
that would have been perfect
so Pixar includes
Monsters Inc
The Incredibles
Toy Story
Toy Story in the tapes
Finding Nemo
Chad is it called Buzz Lightyear
I'll give it to you Chad they're calling it
Lightyear
that was a total flu
I was going to call it Woody
Woody yeah
it's like a woody wagon
woody wagon yeah that's good
Lightyear so
the company is called Lightyear
after Buzz Lightyear because
it's a mouthful
question at number seven
the Lombardian car factory
is better known by its name with two words
what is it Rob
Rob
not incorrect
David
is it Alfa Romeo
it is Alfa Romeo David well done
okay
ciao ciao
score check
jimmy at the score
David, Scotty, Rob on two, Chad on three
it's still anybody's game
jimmy still in it I know you can come back
let's go jim come on
question at number eight
the German brand Opel
is now owned by what conglomerate
David
or David just
Peugeot
Jim's next
Stalantis
they've got that grubby hands
after all these years of
GM ownership Stalantis has just gone
yeah
wow I did not know that
I wasn't great at the end anyway
so it's not big
they can't do any worse in General Motors can they
you heard it
no they could
I don't know
question at number nine
which Toyota model
we're in a midsize SUV
which is now discontinued
was made by HINU
by HINU
HINU as in HINU trucks
they made this particular model for
Toyota HINU HINU
whatever you want to say it
it's David
David
I think I'm wrong I just said discontinued
the Fortuner
Fortuner is incorrect but it's similar size
to a Fortuner
it's a midsize SUV by Toyota
it was considered midsize
but it's quite big
but it's not like full Land Cruiser
300 series size
this is a Japanese only model
no it's only one
really
Fortuner
Fortuner is incorrect Rob
Chad is it the Prado
incorrect it's not Prado
Jim and Scotty at the score
what's even left
there's still a couple
quite a few
a couple
can you give us a bit of a time period
I can
2010s
I think it was
let me fact check when it was
originally made
you already had anyway so you
it doesn't matter
it was sold between
2006 and 2022
I did not know that was made by HINU
yep
I agree with you
I don't know
Jim's out, Scotty's out
the FJ Cruiser
was made by HINU
there you go
Toyota couldn't
figure out how to make three wipers work
so they
they didn't know how to make
the suicide doors
I'd laugh
if that was their actual reasoning
we can't figure it out
that makes trucks
is HINU a part of Toyota
they're Toyota
there you go
question 10
this is before the extra bonus question
which manufacturer
has the most wins at Le Mans
Jim
I'm going to guess
Audi
incorrect
David
Porsche
is correct David well done
bonus question
how many wins have they had
it's been kind of a fair while
closest to do we hit
I'll give it to you
35
35
says David
I'll go 24
24 says Scotty
I'm going 27
says Rob
so Chad and Jim
doing 29
29 says Chad
and Jim
Jim is closest to
it was 19
they've had 19 at victories
bonus
so this is the extra bonus question
so just score check it's quite tight
there is David on 3
Chad on 3
Rob
Scotty and Jim on 2 a piece
so technically
unbelievably it's still anybody's game
last question is a
Rocha question
cool I'll wrap myself off now
you'll be a Jim
okay
so this was a
how am I going to explain it
so it's not a full brochure
it was kind of like a
press kit
example
of the vehicle
I think strong credentials
the bank resets
mini car class benchmark for overall
strength, impressive safety, performance
noise level styling
quality and environmental friendliness
the bank is offered in 3 and 5 door models
with a choice of a manual
and automatic transmission
and 2 equipment levels
the model lineup is the entry level
the bank and the high grade
3 door group X
and the
Jim
Toyota style
it is Toyota style
I didn't think anybody would get the type
the group X
so that was like the top spec
so the life
would have given it away
that was there
yeah not new group X
see Jim you made yourself off too early mate
you're like oh no I'm not going to get it
it comes in
there you go you got it tonight
but unfortunately for you Jim
I'm going to ask another one it's a type
yeah
at least I found these schools that was my worry
mate you've come back hot
believe me you've
you're back in it
you're definitely back in it
so Rob and Scotty you are out
but I'll allow you guys to come back in
if the other three you're not wrong
yeah
blank
the bright star on the road
you could call it the ultimate package
in a small car
the only blank blank with design
power and economy that puts it well
and truly in front
the new 1.6 litre twin cam performance
makes blank and exhilarating
car to drive in either sporty
hatchback or smart sedan
models in SL
SLX and SLE
David
that would be
the hold on over
that would be absolutely correct David Prince
jeez he's good
he is good
the SLSLX and SLE
Nova is the Corolla right?
gotta get a hold on over
that's the ad
jeez
a hold on a Polo on this street
yeah the faded red one
no clear coat left
it's amazing
jump back in man
come back around for the fun of it
so score check
type quiz in the end gentlemen
Rob and Scotty on two a piece
Jim and Chad on three
tonight's winner on the grand total of four is
Mr. David Prince Walder
thank you
could have been anyone's game
special mention great come back
like you're almost you almost pipped them
at the end
it was a good quiz so you worked together
regular quiz as usual
I do appreciate that
you guys are more than welcome to do one for next week
and make me look bad which should be nice
I think that's a quiz
I think that's a podcast gentlemen
let's do some plugs
David's wisdom
well in honour of
Soichiro Honda's birthday yesterday
he was born yesterday in
1906
I can only go
to the old man and say
the value of life can be measured by
how many times your soul has been
stirred
that's a good one I like that
that's wisdom
Soichiro Honda
Chad's deliveries to a place near you
if you've got any magna advice please
please help us on this podcast
some dilemmas and magna
information
love, magna love
that's going to go off tip of the week
alright so
go off tip of the week is mastering those
tight lie chips
and what I mean by those is ones that
a lot of times especially
here on a lot of our golf courses
even if you're on the fairway
they're pretty hard
they're rock solid and it's hard to
kind of chip it properly
it's better when you've got a nice
softer surface but unfortunately
we don't really have much of that
so the way to use these ones
with the setup is
you just set up normally like a normal chip
shot but the club face
slightly open
to get started and the ball
position slightly forward
so normally you kind of have it right in the middle
but slightly forward and
the real aim for this is
taking your arms and wrists out of it
you're not going to be using
so much of your arms and your wrists
kind of moving
it's more of a body shot
kind of like when you're putting so it's kind of your body
just going back and forward
to hit it, that's it
that's a good top tip
impressed
so
Rob's doing it, whatever you need
firefighting, electrical, neighbour hating
heart's importing, welding
decking tolerances
making tolerances, Rob's tolerances
well today with Rob's
reminiscence I think
Rob's memories
Rob's reminiscence
Rob's memories
she had a book, Rob's memoirs
Rob's memoirs, that's her artefactory
you had it here first
Jim anything you want to play my friend
so seeing as
Scotty brought it up
if parents are looking into
how to help their kids get ahead
I would suggest just
help your kids become
emotionally resilient people
I think
so many today are just so immature
and cannot handle the slightest bit
that can be a size issue
if you can teach them to be resilient I think
that will put them really far again
I think we're going to call this segment Jim's Resilience
Jim's Resilience
what was that Rob
give him nothing and take him nowhere
get it out
I was watching Harold and Kumar too
and they had this
son trapped in a basement
it sounds horrible
and he's like well you can't be sitting there
he just yells at him
he's like tough love the best way
he just walks off
I was just like oh my god
that's terrible
when one of my kids was in high school
they were asked to do a resilience program
at lunchtime
and all the parents were
invited to the last thing where they made a presentation
was really really good and then they all got a certificate
except my child
they forgot that one
Resilience is actually
officially not resilient
and he's probably
the most resilient now
yeah
Jim I think the resilience talk
is good
I've had some chats with someone
being a coordinator
of a high school in a certain new level
jeez
you guys could have
some sort of resilience
come on
I will just finish too
how long is the queue
at the moment
and you said
with the receiving messages
every five minutes
last 24 hours from different people
jeez
well Jim I think we need to get out there
and say hey I'm hoping to jump the queue
like just yet
we'll see
alright gentlemen
we'll leave it there
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About this episode
A nostalgic dive into the automotive scene of the 80s, focusing on Rob's experiences working at Toyota Altona. The discussion highlights quality control processes, the evolution of manufacturing, and the camaraderie among workers during a turbulent time in the industry. The group shares personal anecdotes about various vehicles, including updates on their own cars and project aspirations. The episode also touches on the challenges of modern automotive manufacturing and the future of the industry, blending humor with insightful commentary.
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On this episode of Car Torque, Matty is joined by David, Rob, Chad, Jim and Scotty as they discuss their latest updates. Rob tells us of times working at Toyota in QC at the Altona Plant in the late 80s and the boys battle it out in the car quiz at the end of the show!
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