Would you buy the original or the "badge engineered" version?

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Just myself. And now we'll do the after

hours. Gentlemen, what would you go

for? Thanks CSN there.

OK. And because there's not a

supercar, there is. It's not.

Ordinary perfection comes in the form of two letters A&U.

Long live my Ltd. Welcome to Car Talk.

It's Tuesday night here at 9.9 NW FM.

It's me, Mary J Instudio with Mr Alan Mandeep Singh, Mr Tyrone Cabral and online with Mr Edward Tom Bunting, but I'll show up on. My God, you forgot my name.

Your birthday. It was your birthday, you know.

Happy birthday. And David, Magical Prince and

Scotty Dog Johnson. I'm just trying to put something

in there at this point and it's. Light and shade.

Yeah, David. Magical Prince.

And how, how are yours? Yeah.

Yeah. Good.

Great now. Thanks.

Doing well. Thank you.

Yeah. Very, very, very good.

Good to hear you all doing so well.

Let's crack on to some car updates.

Gentlemen, let's start around the room first with Tyrone Updates with you. How much money we spend on the

Falcon today, tomorrow tell? Us.

No, nothing actually the I think since the last update last week, the cable for the reverse camera, the extension cable came through. So put it in, yeah, plugged it

in, connect it up so it all works fine.

Um, that's what about it, Not nothing else more.

I ordered in a window switch for the left hand passenger window side cause I don't know why that just shoot itself.

OK. So I don't know if it's

actually. Fully gone or whether it's just

the context you know got a bit of dust on it cause I've I've looked up videos on YouTube and a lot of them say that they they get a little bit of yeah sticky on and it's I'll say I've got one for like 15 bucks yeah so I just I bought one but I'll change it out but I'll still see if I can if I can still keep this one as a backup. Um, or any other, any other ones

that that decide to go, but yeah, just.

That was the thing about it. Nothing else.

Nothing else much. Hello.

I dropped off the MX5 yesterday. You get me?

Yep. Hey, so I'll hopefully be ready

in a couple of days if it's not. Not too worried what other cars

to drive. That you don't know.

I'm driving my car. No.

Yes, I do drive. That's cut.

Does the company can't? Yeah, yeah.

But it's like your car. No directions, not my car.

The company has company fuel company Company fuel.

The yeah the the Max is basically it's actually started giving a little warning alright didn't expect it's like oil change required in 1000 K 800 K 600 days it also for some reason. Really.

Tell me air philtre element. That's like 30,000 and then 200K

or 600 But what are you talking about the illness?

You know another two services away.

A question I had was from again, people on forums and the YouTube like to do their own maintenance little things people have recommended that you do the fuel philtre.

Every 15,000. Because, you know, algae and all

that jazz that grow on diesel tanks can affect it, even though the book recommends every 45,000 case I'm sure like the philtre itself I think is about. This is just like $60.00 I think

you can buy from your standard, you know, you know, auto parts stores, you can do it yourself. Or you can obviously ask the the

stealership to do it, possibly an exorbitant price.

So I'm wondering, should I do the fuel philtre or not?

What's the opinion of the peoples?

Well cause this will. The Dmax.

Yeah, for diesel. Yeah, do it.

Do it. Yeah.

Don't do it. Yeah, need to.

You had your first. Are.

You on premium diesel? By I am running Premium diesel,

I only feel about either my 7 elevens or my Costco.

Costco wouldn't bother about. Yeah.

What what case? Is it done ellum?

So it's out, it's 15,000. Yeah, I think on my page, the

fuel philtre is scheduled every 30,000 K.

So. You'd want to do it at 30 maybe?

Are they saying you do it every service at 15?

No, that's recommended by I guess other people that are in the car. But again it's it's more or less

hearsay the, I think the book recommendation is 45,000, yeah.

Yeah, so look at 15. I think it's probably overkill

if that's the case. Yeah. 46 like I don't usually

get fuel from, I guess. Places of ill repute, or at

least places where they probably have the fuel sitting very long, You know, allowing the LG builder, that sort of thing.

So. Especially if you're running

premium diesel, do you find that makes a difference?

I haven't really run non premium so I'd imagine it probably.

Wouldn't Premium Diesel? What?

What? What's the difference between

Premium Diesel and Normal Shit Diesel?

No start. That's the word.

Yeah, the the extra $0.02. I've I've always just run diesel

whatever diesels around and man. Diesel with a capital D.

Yeah, never had it, which it should be because it was Rudolph Diesel. So it's meant to be with the

capital because it's his surname.

Please select descent. Rudolf Diesel, yeah.

Well another question for the Falcon boys.

Yes the the the Ford. Cause I did end up.

I'd polished out the headlights and everything else, the automatic and I cleaned up the little UFO for the light sensor.

It still. Keeps ready for me to sort of

take delivery alum is that? It is.

It is pretty ready. It's just I need to fix that.

The UFO I guess they call the AFL round licence.

That I think is just because you put on automatic.

No matter how much light you shine on it, lights are on.

That's weird. It shouldn't.

Be and I haven't heard of. That album, I'm not paying for

that. I've never heard of them Fail.

Like ever. So, you know, I'm going to like,

pull it out as well, Like you reach all the way near the glass and hopefully smash the glass, you know?

You gotta fix that. I'll do my best at.

I'll do my best. I don't know where I'm going to

order the part from. I've looked it up and nobody

seems to sell it. He doesn't because it doesn't

break, doesn't break. So probably got the records and

fish went out and then you know, and then go from there.

Maybe, Yeah. So you're saying during daytime

it's on? Even if you like, get like a

torch and shine the light on, it doesn't change.

So I'm assuming that the sensor is gone, yeah, but we'll do all that I think. Very good.

Yeah. I think just probably just got a

record. Try another one and say again.

Mr Scotty Johnson. Me.

Um. I have fitted the new disc

rotors and pads into the Subaru Guru.

Um, I had to MacGyver it to get the piston to push the piston back in. So you know the when you get

like the caulking guns and you send it into the canister thingy and you got this, you press the trigger and it pushes in.

So what I did was because you know I got 2 metal bits that run across the top, I hacksawed one bit off, snapped that bit off and I sit over the calliper and I keep clicking.

It goes poop, poop and push it. I couldn't be bothered to travel

to around the corner to pick up one of the the G clamps I got at mum and dad's. You need to paint that.

I did that and pushed her to the two Pistons back in.

And then bettered it in to look for a bit of a drive.

Bettered them in and no squeal or good.

So I'm running. They're slotted and dimpled

discs and Brembo brake pads. OK.

Performance. Have you got nice plastic

Brimberg covers to go over the callipers?

No, no. Although you can see the pads in

their red on the outside, so there's a bit of red that's cool that makes. It extra.

The only reason I went with the Brembos is because our price really well. OK.

And so I've had Bendix before, and I don't really like Bendix, Pence. Don't care for him.

No. It'll be interesting to see how

the rainbows were. Yeah, that's what I'm interested

in. See how they were.

Do they create a lot of brake dust?

But it? But I'm not not that fast for

brake dust, it's just these. The Bendix ones that I had last

time chewed through the rotor. After one use of those pads,

those rotors were done. Yeah.

There was grooves in it and they were just worn all the way down so. They just ate through the road

and so hopefully these ones are a bit bit nicer, but they seem to bite quite well so. See how it goes.

You're blaming the the pads, Scotty.

Did your downhill attack on at at seat have anything to do with the some of the damage to the order?

They're already gone by then, actually.

He showed. Yeah, all my son close to metal.

By then they were completely gone.

Before then, you could smell. Like your word for Scotty.

And then I didn't wanna change the roadies yet, so I just bought some pads to throw on for a bit while I am.

Got the rotors and everything sorted and finally got around to doing that obviously. The the pet slot, which is which

is not. Which is the easy way out.

Yeah, yeah exactly I did cause cause I had no time.

They were like the pads were gone, yeah.

And I had no time to order in and I couldn't wait cause yeah, these pads were longer on so quickly grabbed some, slap them on. Drive it for a bit.

Didn't what I wanted it to do for a bit and done it properly.

That's all fixed. Got wheel bearings booked in for

Friday to be done. Good.

Hopefully that solves the problems.

It's either getting worse or it's creating some other problems in the car. A bit of bad rattling or

something coming from the front passenger side and.

Kind of pulling to the left a bit and just.

Yeah, something's a bit off. I have a look underneath all the

suspension seems to be fine. A bit of the rattle could have

been the plastic shielding underneath, which I fixed, so I'm not sure if that will fix the drama on that one, but.

I think I did find a a coolant leak to.

OK. Which is good, because now and

again I've been having to top up the coolant and I'm wondering as to why I need to top it up all the time.

I need to top it up. Like a couple 100 mil here and

there. To top it back up to full again,

but I didn't know where it was disappearing to cause it's not leaving any marks anywhere, but I saw a bit of green coming from the lower radiator hose. So I'll just have to start it up

and see exactly what it's coming from.

Is it the hose itself, is the clamp on they're wearing or or what just seem to have just a little bit sort of seeping, but I couldn't really determine where exactly was seeping from just somewhere around there, so. Mechanically I just give him the

door once I was just make sure it's alright.

If it's if it's something where you can't see it, they can like.

Yeah, that's a bit tricky with this wet weather to see where anything's coming from. Yeah, yeah.

Structural I I'd say that's pretty good news, Scotty.

So it's, you know, you find the call on the ground and not in the combustion chamber. Yeah, that.

Was the whole. If if losing coolant and you

know and you're not seeing it. It gasket.

Yeah, I mean, it's been slowly leaking.

I've been topping up coolant for a while, but every time I drop the oil, it's completely clean. There's no Milky residue or

anything in there. There's nothing in the reservoir

either. When I check in there, so it's

not that. That's just yeah, I like.

I can't find at least this one that I can get to.

Yeah, I don't think I'm the first one that I had that was under the top mount intercooler, a tiny little heater hose that had split and burst and just sprayed coolant everywhere.

That was a pain in the butt to remove the whole top me out.

Remove a couple more hoses running under there just to get to it. That's a top tip actually, cause

people will often change radiator hoses, you know, top, bottom, whatever. They're very common, perishable,

serviceable items. But no one generally bothers to

do all the heater hose, rubbers and things, of which the Scottish right they're very intricate.

There's more of them, they're usually that thinner gauge of rubber pipe, and often you're on a 20 year old car.

They're all original when the the radiator hoses have been done or the radio itself might have been done, but it's still got coolant going through. It's still rubber, like it.

They still stuff up. I had that on a Corolla years

ago. Where it was, it was, yeah,

pissed out the back of the head and one of those little hoses and it's just like, yeah, well, if you're doing the radiator ones, you do the other ones because they're all the same age and they're going to go. Wrong.

Yeah, I think kitten, when it happened.

Tightened. Yeah, I was there for my.

For teaching. Waiting to go into the school

and I'm just sitting in the car for a bit because I got there a bit early and I could just, you know, that smell, that you get the smell. Sickly sweet coolant smell.

Like, ohhhhh, that's not right. That's not it running hot or

anything like that. So I had a look and just this

puddle coming underneath the cars like.

So you can't. Talk to me.

I got at home and could not find out where it was coming from.

Made it home. Closes.

There you go. Cop tip, change the hoses.

Tip change all your hoses. Change them.

As is well. Sorry.

No, I'll shut up. I'll wait, Wait no, wait till my

10 waiting. My turn.

Your turn. Your bunting.

Yeah. I'm done alright.

Little radiator hose story. So in my Corolla when that

happened I was down outside of Colac and it was 42 degrees.

I was rocking along in my 91 seeker which was the little 5 speed manual hatch. It was a CS card model.

Anyway, I'm hanging along and yeah suddenly the temp gets a bit high and I was like oh so I pulled over.

I noticed it of course and then heater hose had just sprang.

Shit everywhere, same as Scotties.

All I had in my backpack was my mobile phone but I was on prepaid credit back then. Years ago.

And I ran out of credit, so I couldn't call anyone and all I had in my backpack was cans of rum and Coke.

And I thought, well, I can't really put that in the radiator and get limp back to Colac. So I left the car under some

trees and started walking down the highway.

And it was the only time in my life I've ever attempted to hitchhike because I thought, it's 42 degrees, there's no one, you know, like it's quite a walk back into Colac.

Anyway, no one picked me up, which is probably good because I might have ended up being murdered.

And so I saw a clump of trees in the distance, which I thought could be a farmhouse. So I went into the farmhouse and

said, look, I just use your phone to ring.

Agreeing, the taxi from Colac and I said yeah, yeah, all good.

Yeah, I'm chatting to the guy. Turns out he knows my uncle and

I'm like, what are the chances of this?

So then I went into town and then I didn't have RACV or anything. And you can't join.

If you've got a problem, you can only join.

It's a bit like health insurance.

If you've just, you know, had your leg half sworn off by Crocodile. You can't just then ring up and

get health insurance, you know. So same sort of thing.

I couldn't get RSV, but I found a mechanic who was willing to sort of come out and do it and I just gave him cash sort of thing. So I sorted that eventually.

But. Oh, it took a few hours.

It was a real pain. And then I was back on the road.

Then I was back on the ferry over to Sorrento for news.

It was News Eve and then and then on the dance floor at Sorrento Pub for New Year's Eve. Not a problem.

Doesn't matter. Still made it oht.

And that was The funny thing. On the way to the Sorrento pub

there were these guys hitchhiking and I thought, I normally wouldn't pick up hitchhikers, but that was me earlier today and I'm going to give him a ride.

So I gave him a ride into wherever they were going in Sorrento. And I thought, well, that's good

karma, you know. Did you?

And and and and and They never ended up at their location, did they, Edward? They ended up saying because

Edward said what if I was a serial killer?

Well, I think he's not said. I thought I'm the best one to

pick them up because I'm not gonna kill them.

Like that's good for them. Proposed theory killer and they

said the likelihood of two of them being in one car is quite unlikely. So everyone everyone quieted

down and they got to their location.

He's not a serial killer. They're still a house now.

I did. I did.

Actually, actually. To to be a serial killer have to

do multiple. It could have been just a single

but anyway yeah you gotta do that's what the the police will investigate and Edwards backyard to take care of.

So that was my my my radiator hose story.

Yeah, I I was gonna say, and since you gave us the information that it was like close to New Year's Eve, obviously you didn't have the option I was gonna say should go back to Colac, stay the night, signed up for our AC that night, and the next morning be like, oh, would you look at that, I've had some car trouble. Oh, that was.

I was gonna leave the car there just get the train back down.

But I missed the last train so I was like, God damn it.

You know what I what do I do now?

You know it's but since then I've had RACV total care.

So it's just whatever you're in you're you're good.

And I've had a phone that's not on prepaid credit so life lessons sort chain three. Change your radiator hoses when

the heater hose when change radio hoses to get RACV.

Total care if you're gonna drive around an old ship boxes that you don't know how good they are.

Three. What was the third one?

Don't be on prepaid. Prepaid.

Prepaid. Be on a mobile phone plan.

You do those three things, your life is going to be better.

You good? I say you can.

You know why? People choose this.

If that's why they. Absolutely.

Now in terms of normal car updates, we got sidetracked there. I have been in a buying mood so

the first car I purchased, Maddie drove this the other day was 1995 Subaru Impreza GX 1.8 litre 4 door sedan automatic

with. Not 82,000 original case on it

from the original owner and I showed Maddie there's a receipt in the glove box for when she purchased the carpet 31990 in 1995 and she traded in a Ford Laser 1981 and a Ford Fairlane 1983 I think it was. So she got 13 grand for the

pair, the Laser and the Fairlane and she tipped herself into the 31990 in Paretta. So.

Bit of money back then. You look at the money, it's not

Maddie. And I was saying that that's not

that cheap. You know, it's not a 19990.

It's a 31. It's, yeah, it's getting up

there. It doesn't have to be like

almost 60 grand. Yeah.

Maybe we'll do the conversion what year was. 951995 So yeah,

so, so, so that's that Edward and yeah, George Jones really well. The car drives beautifully, it's

very tight, It's been very well serviced.

It's whole life. However, she has run into things

being very old, so the front left looks awful, the front bumpers got scrapes and the back bumpers got scrapes and you know there's a few Dings around the body.

But so if you ignore the cosmetics, it's it's a really nice little car and the interior is perfect.

So I'm going to advertise that tonight after this show for $3600 as it sits with Long Ridge and a Roadworthy and just see if I see what bites I get on that. Um.

So that's the Impreza. The other car I was tempted into

buying is a 2002 Holden Berlina VX2 sedan.

It's finished in that tungsten colour, which is at champagne sort of colour, and that's done in original 82,000 K as well.

So I've got two cars with 82,000 and low miles on them.

VX Commodore. I know.

And that car has got full books and mats and the headlight protectors and you know it's a really clean car.

So that I. Move that.

I gotta check for roadworthy and they said we can't see anything so that should sail through when I sell it, so it'll be advertising that soon. And the third car I was tempted

with this was a bit of an unexpected one.

On Friday I got a bit of a tip off on a Toyota Prado, the first shape turbo diesel O2G XL. And I sort of it was a tender

system. So I threw my hat in the ring

with a bit of a bid on it and sort of forgot about it.

And then I got a text message Monday going oh hey, you're currently winning this Prado. And I was like oh alright then

so I ended up winning it and and I they wanted more money for it but I was the closest and so they they basically said yeah right let let it go. So I haven't seen it.

I just sort of seen. Pictures of it online, but I

went and purchased it last night.

Thank you David, for the lift out there and you don't quite know, sight unseen. Like it all?

Looked like it would stack up and it was cheap enough.

You go yeah I'll take a punt but you never quite know till you get there. So I got to this guys house and

he's turns out he's the original owner.

Bought it brand new. Gives me all the receipts in the

folder, gives me the original radio.

Says yeah it's been a cracking car that's had new shocks.

It's had tyres not long ago. It's had a timing belt, 15,000 K

go. Everything works.

Air con works. The only thing with it is that

the paint on the roof and the bonnet is not great.

It's that. Metallic red.

And it's just gone. All hazy and dusty and clear

coat gone, you know? But to drive Mickey Mouse, you

know, And I was like, fool got me a Prado, OK, I didn't expect that this morning when I got out of bed.

So I've got three cars and the Prados done 243,000 K, which sounds like a lot, but for one of those early diesel Prados, that's low. Yeah.

So I've got 3 inverted commas, low mileage cars that will soon be for sale. 02 same as the VX no Yes O 202, it's the last of

that first shape Prado in the turbo, diesel in an auto.

So yeah, I think 03 they went to that more curvy shape.

I even this is and this is gonna shock people on this right?

I even thought, do I sell my Pajero for 1817?

And just stick with the Prado, which owes me way less than that. You know, and pocket some cash.

And then I thought, ah. Prada doesn't have ABS or

airbags or any of that traction controller, you know any of that stuff. And I thought and it is body on

chassis, it's not a monocoque like the Pajero.

So I thought Pajero does drive better.

Pajero is more powerful. Pajero's got side airbags and

front airbags and ABS and and it's got a winch in the product doesn't and I just went you know what like.

It's probably by the time you brought the Prado up to scratch and put a winch on it and do the get the paint done and redo the tinted windows and you know, sort of bring it up to how I would like it. You're probably not far off what

I spent buying the page anyway, so you know, but the thought crossed my mind for a very brief time.

Um, that's my car updates OHS on Sunday.

It was my birthday. I went for a little drive out in

the country and I took the Mini Moke which hasn't been on a big run and there was always, yeah, there's always a bit of question mark over old British car that hasn't been used a lot.

What's it going to do? Thankfully it didn't do anything

wrong. My brother and I had the top

down the whole way freezing, but I had gloves and a big jacket and you know, been in whatever and it was great.

So we went all around the hills out east and did on 100 and something KS in it all around there and we drove through a cloud which was nice. Top of the mountain.

Was covered in mist and I said to my brother, we're in a cloud right now. How's this in a Moat?

And he's like, this is a bit crazy, yeah.

And I'm like, yeah, it's great. And so we made it home again.

And I was like. Good little, Mike.

Didn't do anything wrong. Happy with that.

Happy days bunting. That's me.

I'll shut. Up the Prince.

Captivates with me. I parked the van on Saturday

after going down to the key box and kind of Monday morning drove down the street. So it's a strange noise only to

find the front or left tyre flatter than a pancake and basically almost peeling off the rim, so that's not great.

So turned around limb time, my vans loaded up with a lot of accoutrement for work and I had this sort of sick.

Feeling that the release for the spare wheel was actually under all that under the the floor and all that sort of thing anyway, had quick thankfully, as the top tips already been passed on about. Extra care with the total, care

with RCB. One quick call out they came,

rummaged around underneath, got the spare out, changed it over and I was on the way in 10 minutes.

But I had been meaning to put tyres on that car actually swapped the alloy wheels and the Continental tyres from the old van I had. That it done nearly 40,000 on

this van and however many they did on the other one.

So yeah, that was this morning's job.

Dropped it off last night, picked it up at 9:30 this morning with four brand new counties on them.

So makes a big difference. Drives much.

Nicer. How many keys on that?

50 No, no, 3038, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

Yeah. So it'll have had it three years

in December, so. And half years, um the yeah, so

that that was expensive but worthwhile.

But the highlight of my automatic weak has to be driving the laser SR2. Sunday.

From the departure point for Mr Bunting's birthday, I think into the into the, into the foothills of the mountains, before Matt had to head off to another appointment.

So I was I was granted access to the Holy of Holies and enjoyed it. Very, very much.

Thank you, Matthew. No worries.

I'm glad that you you got to drive it.

I didn't expect you to say that, but that that's that's quite good. Well, it was.

I mean, you know, we do know how you love Eliza thing and I can see why. So yeah, that was great.

So the case that has done 321,019. 2121. 21 now.

To to after the three now. Yeah.

Drive completely smoothly and lovely.

Not a tight, not a rattle, not a clunk.

There's great little car. So yes, I can see why it's not

not going anywhere, that one. No, it's it's it's it's it's too

good a car. It's the print.

Too good a car? Absolutely too.

Trying to I actually the one other thing I did last week I forgot to mention was I did go to a launch for the Honda Z RV at a dealership by Gary Moore and Smith in Oakley and took my city down, which was actually bought new from Gary and Warren Smith in January 1984. So I made sure they realised

that and showed them the service book and said I think you need to buy this car and have it on your showroom.

Floor for its 40,000. So we live in hope haven't had a

call yet but you know something might come of that they were they were going on in the little.

Little released talk about how long you know they've been apart with a been a part of the Honda network and how their history so important to them. So I thought that's what I

wanted to hear. We go, Here we go, here we go.

On a platter. On a.

Platter hold out your hand. Exactly, exactly.

So we'll see. I have got, I don't think, any

updates this week. I'm trying to think what Oh no I

saw. Nothing's broken, man.

Nothing broken. No, nothing's broken.

The guys still get to come pick up the LTA, but that's that's sold ready to. Go.

Is the money in the? Bank.

Was in the bank, but he's not going to pay the rest cash, he said. I'm like, well, whenever you get

here, but I've got some sort of money from it.

So whether he comes or not, still winning, OK?

Kathy busy man. So that'll be there I I'm still

here with this I. Trying to get what happened to

the. Instead of console lead in my in

my Fiesta, they looked like there should be a little tray there and there should be, but on my 1:00 they didn't put one so I went to forward and priced it up.

And because I was looking at a lot of second hand and they were like 20-9 pounds from the UK and I'm like yeah, I'm not paying that I got one for $20 Australian and and makes that little hole a lot of little bit nearer.

So I've got that and put that in there and and and that that's that's quite nice. Gave a couple of cars are clean

but I haven't really done it much carry stuff over the over the last week it's been pretty busy with with life admin to be honest with you so but but anyway moving moving on gentlemen to tonight's topic now I wanted to talk to you guys about about this because I want to listen to the show Dave LC2 from the United States of Freedom has missed we message all the time and and he was telling me about some some cars at that that exactly the same but they've got they've got different badging and and and I was responding responding with

the ones that we've had here in Australia which one.

So the ones that have been successful and which one?

The ones that have not been successful.

So like a badge, engineering, badge, sharing, kind of.

Kind of car that's that's been good and Scotty I never put in the like extreme capitalist Toyota Lexcen because everybody everybody knows that the. That that was a bad one.

Yeah, the Holden Apollo was a good one.

I mean, it wasn't that bad holding point.

Yeah, just camera and camera is always good cars.

That's right. That's true.

That's true. For my first holding Apollo V6

recently and like that has to be quite rare.

This is. And so anyway, I wanted to ask

you guys, what do you think were the ones that have been good and which ones have been miserable? I want to start us off with the

forward XFU which turned into the Nissan evaluate mute the youth. They use.

It's their use. Funny enough.

I had longer warranty than he than the Ford equivalent which is which is which is quite, which is quite funny.

They obviously saw some sort of. Reliability and it's.

So obviously not a really good one.

They didn't really do well for them.

But then I was saying listening for didn't really do many good things. I mean the the, the Maverick and

the Corsair from that, from that same era.

You wanna say the same thing? Entirely the kind of kind of

come to mind. But yeah, the Nissan the Ute is

not really one that that goes too too favourably, gentlemen.

It's funny, I think particularly with the cars that came out of that button plan. During the Little during the 80s

Um. It seemed to be the manufacturer

that had that model did much better the the the clone of of the other manufacturer when you look at the Toyota with the the Corolla. Was the Holden over the camera

button polo and as we said the the the Commodore was the the Lexin. Well you know I mean holding so

probably 100 Commodores to Alexa, didn't they really and I'm pretty much it was a similar ratios with the with Toyota selling Camrys compared to Apollos and Corollas appeared to. Um.

No, there's I think that with one exception that sprang to mind. I was thinking about it made a

list before we came on. The interesting, the most

interesting one through the 80s I reckon was that the Holden actually had an association with Suzuki obviously, and the first Barina which came out in 85 was a basically a rubbed Swift and that sold in huge numbers compared to the Swift.

So the swift was always a bit, you know, picking either didn't know it was there or didn't realise you know that it was on sale. Which side?

Suzuki sort of seems to struggle with some of these small cars, I mean bolaños and things like that even now you know they're they're sort of not on everyone's shopping list or.

But yeah, how did very well with the, with the, with this client.

In that case not so well with the scurry which was a clone of the caravan and the drove. Carry the Holden scurry, yeah.

And the Drover, which was a clone of the Sierra.

Yeah. But yeah, the Marina certainly

bucked the trend, I think. That has to be probably one of

the most successful ones that they had.

I reckon like, like you know, out of any company because it it it, it outsold its original, you know, equivalent, which is which is which is quite rare. What about?

What about you, gentlemen? You about to say something

earlier? I was I was gonna ask the

question is it does have to be like a complete clown car or can it be like BT15 Ranger? Yeah, that's that's.

Yeah, yeah. OK.

Well, the other one I was gonna go for is.

The BRZ in the 86 as well. Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah. Which is funny because.

Subaru make the car but Toyota sell I think 12:50 yeah is there is the ratio so it's. A bit mariner, isn't it?

It is a Marina. Marina factor.

It's it's quite weird. I think no one worked well as

well like OC sales part, the between the like premium model and the base model of the GT86, the BZ kind of slaughtered right in the middle of that. So it was kind of a good option

of if one of them is going to spit out one of the aspects enough you could go to super around.

I personally am like yeah I'd probably go super right just because yeah real fanboy and you know the blue colour in the RG super is nice. But yeah, I'd say that's one of

the positions what are we think of the the Ignace and the the Cruise? That was the only good cruise

that they made. Yeah.

That's true because it was a Suzuki.

And I believe that was the one to have all the that's the one to get the Holden is the one to get if you want to buy one because it did come with a proper 4 wheel drive I think and. It was one of those.

If you have it on and it sensed the front loose traction, then the rear go somewhere. But it's also one of those if

you know, you know, like it's it's the people, the people, the whole division. I used to know a lady that.

In the cricket team, played for her son, played in the same team as I had, she bought 1 brand new Emmanuel one, Smoked like a train in the car, smell like cigarettes like crazy.

But I was like I was a cool little car.

And yeah, I was at the end of the all driver, always all drive, coming to sit on the side of the on side of the car and and I thought it looked better as well.

I thought it was. I thought it was a a good

looking, good looking rendition of that.

But, but sorry, you've had a cloned car in terms of the, in terms of the. The range up.

Yeah. Well, the range and the B2250

are the, yeah, the range of the BT50 are the same.

I think same same chassis, just different bodies.

Yeah, there's different bodies get put on onto them.

Yeah, I don't know the, I think the Ranger got sold more than BT 50s. Well yeah, well over at that

time. So, but I think now with the new

Ranger it is a lot different. I don't think it's still the

same. Same.

No, except rock based I think, isn't it?

I've done this year. It's no the new Amrox Ranger

based. Yeah, it's OK, it's it's all

it's all a bit of a bit weird, but it's complicated.

They got finally Amarok. I don't know, like.

There's just the it's like your even your Navarra and the Mercedes. Yes, same thing, just to the

badge of a Mercedes. Not charge you, charge you 50

grand more for it. The president was interesting

because they that was their kind of 1st and.

Last. Yeah.

Yeah. That was the first suit.

Yeah. And obviously it didn't go that

well because don't give me any point you can.

Yeah, when you can buy and Avara cheaper for the same, same, same specs, what would you go to Mercedes, you know?

Correct. Yeah, yeah, but yeah.

And they should have made an X 63 built them built on the G waggon chassis, right? And that would?

Have solved it. Wouldn't.

Yeah. That would probably make more

sense. You know, if you had a G waggon,

you. Yeah.

That's cause every dealer and. No, no one.

Thank you for any good purpose. Right.

So it's it's basically you're you know more manly tying the the Dewey, which is already pretty manly but a lot of because a lot of we'll call it, you know Valley girls drive them So they do have that kind of air of drug dealer or like you know Daddy's little girl who's been given too much money.

So to magnify a little bit you make them to the Ute and then you've got, you know all you know the people that want to spend too much money don't have a lot of the pants you know or want to look like a real man on the road.

And we get to take a little TV from the shop or put a slap on the back flap in the back. Yeah.

They going fishing. But they get really, really far

away from the water and they, you know, take a second car, yeah. Really close.

But that would have worked I reckon.

Does Mercedes Mr Check issue if you ever make a your G waggon?

Do you? But actually, what are they?

Didn't they want that 6 by? 6 by 6.

Yeah, yeah the 6 by 6 is not even like, it's like, it's like like we were talking last week after the show.

We were saying it's like buying a a a RAM, you know, a RAM or a F-250 or something like that in in Australia.

It's pointless cause you can't park him anyway.

Yeah you can only take him from A to B, park him on the road and then and then and we we saw actually as soon as we were talking about it, we saw a guy pull up in the parking lot and he took up two spots. We're gonna fit in.

It was ridiculous. We're talking about and legit A

minute later, I'm like, dude, that's a ram and it takes, it takes it. Parked in the middle of two car

parks and it was like virtually perfect size pointed to the two.

Car lengths was still too much. And I could.

I could picture Adrian getting out of the car then.

Like, yeah, Bald Eagles, America.

Even the the Ranger Raptor here, it's still a big couple for a normal parking lot, you know? There's there's telling you guys

at Super Cheap there's a guy that lives across the road from where my super cheap is and he's got the previous generation Ranger Raptor lifted it on map on probably the biggest tyres I've ever seen on a on a Ranger and parks it in our car park because it doesn't fit in his underground car park because it's too high. I'm like that sounds like a you

problem man like that's like a. That's how you get your car

keyed, yeah? Yeah, which, I don't know that

behaviour. Because the tyres go missing.

Yeah, well you probably don't mess with these.

Pretty huge dude, massively tall, and you probably wouldn't want to cross him, but. But he's not standing around the

car all the time. So yeah, it's yeah, it's a bit

of a weird one, but what, what other ones?

Gentleman, we'll go with the ones that have worked, which are the ones that have worked. And worked well and which of the

ones that have and we'll get to the ones that haven't worked as well, so. I've got quite obscure go.

MC12. The the Maserati, Yes.

It doesn't end there, but they did tune the engine because, you know, can't be out on the Ferrari.

They made it a bit longer and heavier, but damn it, like, I think it looked better. Than it looks better in the

answer. Looked way better on the top of

your track. It was faster.

It was. And just, you know, it did not

get enough appreciation, but that was one where I felt they were really hobbled. They were supposed to be the

return of Maserati, you know, to racing and ledgers, but they still hobbled it because they had to have the Enzo being looking better. So I just think the car still

did so well, you know, despite the, you know, for, I don't know, technical. Achievement.

Agree with that. One of the ones, Scotty what?

Which ones do you think worked well?

And probably the supra and. Z4 OK yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So bit more recent.

I think both have worked really, really well using that same platform. I know most people saying it's

more of a BMW but. You know, I guess you know,

Toyota did their little tweaks and things like that.

It's a lot of BMW stuff, but in this day and age, it was the only way you could bring back the Supra.

They don't have super soccer balls.

Yeah, And they don't have the funds to create a whole new super and you entered and everything like that.

So I think there's good things that come out of it.

You know, I think I agree with that.

I mean, I actually really like the new super, I think.

I think it's kind of cool. I think it's kind of cool to go.

Only one you really really works well and and from all accounts it drives better than the BMW equivalent Cause toilet you said, as you said made those little tweaks and made it into a really really good sports car so.

That straight 6 sounds good in that car too.

It's the only good something. Car sounds good in it all the

BMW sounds like trash. Yeah, I don't know what they do

have some to do with the source or something that they do.

I don't know. It just sounds.

Not like a straight 6 or anything.

And all the other BMW's you know in the M threes and M fours.

It just sounds odd. But they sound like ahs, to be

honest. The.

Yeah, sound horrible. They they just they do not like

BMW straight 6 user saying are really good and they don't know what happened and then yeah, but.

You heard it here first. David.

I thought of another one when you mentioned about the Nissan and you're having the better warranty in the last couple of years with Mr Mitsubishi's connection with the Renault Peugeot Group. I don't know if anyone noticed,

but you could actually buy a Renault Master Van rebadged as a Mitsubishi Express with a 10 year warranty.

Interestingly, you can't buy it anymore.

It's no longer available for sale in Australia, but yeah, when they started their ten years, 10 year warranty, tiny factory warranty, I thought it would be interesting to the Express and it didn't last very long.

Yeah. But, and it's even worse over in

the UK from the point of view that there that alliance with.

With the Peugeot, Renault and and Citroen groupies connected somehow too, because there's a there's a small Toyota called the Toyota Airgo Argo Argo, which is also a Citroen C1 and a Peugeot 106 I think. So all of those vents are

available as Toyotas as well over there.

I think they called the Toyota Pro Box, I think they call them.

As well as an Opel Vivaro, they're bad Chopal as well.

So with the GM's association with them now as well and one of those Peugeots, I just lose track of the numbers.

There could be a 3008, could be a 4006.

I'm not sure which one, but it's beginning Opal cross land.

Well, it's interesting that you say that because cause Opel and Vauxhall and and I believe and now owned by by PSA group so.

Same group that's right. That's right.

But yeah, that was that was a interesting alliance.

There are lots and lots of them that are into cars in the UK.

I think it's basically the ASX. In the UK.

There's heaps of them around. So yeah, just because people,

they can release the different badge version, I don't think they should necessarily, but. I suppose it gives them a

they're going to get the salad away, aren't they?

I guarantee the Toyota takes like I've gotta work in French crap again. You gotta not gonna be happy.

They did cross my mind seeing all these pro Box, Toyota Pro Box is getting around picking. That's not a Toyota.

I don't think any part of that's ever been anywhere near Nagoya.

Edward. Yo your.

Pics engineering that worked, Badgering didn't work.

I think like you said before, it's.

It's like everyone wants the OG I I think back to the 80s.

My sister wanted a Cabbage Patch doll, which you guys probably haven't heard of David would not talking about.

On the Cabbage Patch Dollars. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, yeah, they're big in the 80s and they're they're.

Sort of like. If you didn't have one and you

were a girl going to school in the 80s, that was a that was a big thing. Like you had to have a Cabbage

Patch doll. Now, because there were genuine

Cabbage Patch dolls, I think you'd lift up their skirt or something on their arse. They had a particular stamp that

you know this is a genuine carriage, first doll, blah blah blah blah blah. And then there were fake ones,

you know, that were because they're like $40 back then in the 80s, which was expensive, you know, for a family to spend 40 bucks on this friggin thing, there were fake ones that were cheaper. And yeah, yeah, they just, no

one ever wanted the fake ones. And you can always pick the fake

ones. And it's a bit like that with

this badge engineering. It's like, well, you don't want

the Nissan the Ute you you want the Ford Falcon, you that's got a bit of a smidgen of respect about it.

You don't want the Ford Maverick.

You want this in patrol. You know you don't want the

Toyota Lexus in. You want the Holden Commodore.

So I think those ones just didn't work as it was just so inferior. And for the, I don't know how

much you save buying those versions to what, 1002 thousand dollars difference or something which was a bit, but yeah, just buy a demo and get the proper one, you know, like what are you doing. But the ones that did work, I

think. A bit well you know like Mazda

121, Mazda 3, sorry Mazda 3234 Blazer like they they they were different enough and and both respected sort of brands in their own right. They worked.

I think the. And what was I gonna say?

Oh, there's another one that came to mind like, you know, Telstar 6:00 to 6:00 that that worked by and large.

What didn't work? There's another one that just

came to mind that I sort of thought was good OHT Holden over and Toyota Corolla you know the the the the Nova in its own right did did OK. But it was really I think

underpinning that was really that people knew it was a Toyota and Toyota are great so. They sort of didn't.

Cares much? Maybe.

Um. Yeah, I don't know.

Oh yeah. Yeah, I don't know what's going.

To say about it, it's I always want the genuine one, though If it was me, I'd sort of go what I'd rather crawl than a Nova, even though no roller and it's stamped with Toyota everywhere.

Yeah, I don't. I don't.

I don't really know the the point of it.

What about the Sprint events? They were like.

Mercedes Benz Freightliner Dodge.

Apparently I watched a video of a.

A repair technician that worked at Mercedes Benz in America at the time and he just said they were the worst things ever.

Like you get them in and because they probably been used for Courier kind of work and hard life.

Yeah they were frequently rather than owner operated, it was company operated. Drivers were just employees.

They would be absolutely hammered.

Maintenance will be overdue and the dash light up like a Christmas tree. So every single card would come

with like 10 different problems at least.

And it's just a situation of yeah.

Just fix this, fix this to six. And you know, when you're

dealing with normally like good passenger cars with reputation and then having to do with these weird commercial vehicles like the Mercedes takes in the States were really not equipped to it.

And yeah, it was just a guy telling of how hard time they had and how they just hated him, like just don't want to work on it. It's interesting, but like when

when we look at the cars today, right?

So for example the Volkswagen Group.

Virtually all their cars are based off the one car right.

So for example like the Golf is is Skoda is is a Skoda or whatever and it's in the Audi whatever and you know it's it's virtually the same car just in in in in different things and now I always call more platform sharing but but it's it is virtually the same car so it's it's they've done more to disguise it these days but in in a lot of ways it is still it's still the same thing. Do you think that the model

sharing now is a lot better than it was previously or is it because of the the way they can just kind of hide the.

The the looks of the car or do you think it's it's it's worse because it's like well hang on a minute.

You know it's actually kind of lying to people like that this is not this is not a proper ality.

This is a this is a Volkswagen Golf in drag.

You know is is that is is that kind of, is that kind of the feeling that you're getting now. What's the Lamborghini you're

especially? The Lamborghini.

The Lamborghini has a lot of parts of Audi.

Yeah. Well, it's a, isn't it, Isn't

it? Is it Q8?

Yeah, I think it's a QA, yeah. Yeah, which is, which in itself

shares part with a KNI believe. Sorry.

Yeah, because I was watching a video of a guy and a Lamborghini had come in and to buy the same part from Lamborghini, who gets it from Audi, cost you more than going to Audi directly and buying the same part. It's basically the same thing

that you're getting. But yeah, it's just, it's just

the name. It's literally an amazes me how

how a name can put a price tag on on something.

On the exact same exact same. And they actually have Audi

logos on the actual path. So if you who's looking under

and you can actually see where there was an audio logo here.

Like probably. I'd say a good 30 to 40% of the

car. Probably even more than that Was

of Lamborghini was all Audi nice.

Yeah, yeah. It was just right and the yeah,

yeah, yeah. It's interesting you said that

time because people don't come on the show.

Robin Harley. No, not Robin Harley.

Somebody from the state. Legit street cars.

They he he bought, he bought a a McLaren like one of the early Mclarens that early early modern Mclarens MCP whatever the hell it is. Anyway it's it's Dash 12 + C and

all that crap. Anyway he he bought it really

cheap because he's like, well, it's good YouTube content.

It's going to make people. Obviously he's not into exotics

or anything but it's the first one had anyway and any other coil packs and plugs and that ended the aids actually based off of a Nissan V8. And so he pressed it up.

And McLaren. And it was like a $3000 job or

something or something ridiculous to to do the to do the court to to for the parts. No, it was 20 something, 100

bucks for the parts and then like an extra grand for the labour. He got the part number called

Nissan, got all the coils and plugs around the 200 bucks and put it in himself. So the exact same thing.

That just shows how much of A role that that, that, that is.

Similar YouTube building a Gallardo up again and he was getting alright parts as well. 310 parts yeah it's like same

part 800 all difference. Yeah so why not?

Just just follow what Alex did and just with the pot comes from. And the biggest thing like for

me is. If a person is buying this car,

there's obviously a sense of um. We'll call it ego.

Involved in owning a a supercar. So to have somebody so easily be

able to, you know, throw a rock at your glass house and be like, you know, that's just naughty like and you can't stop them from saying that you'd be. Like, no, no, it's.

It's Lamborghini, but they're like, look, that's really, that's really like it hurts. And obviously you bought this

car for a certain theoretical purpose, and when that could be broken down so easily and so quickly, I'd say that it turned me off the car. But when you say that though,

but like virtually most. Times these days all share

platforms like for example look at all the share platforms with pets and and Chryslers and you know like they all they all sharing. They're all sharing platforms

now it's one, because it's cost cost saving and two it's because it's just it's just an easier way to do things when you're building things off of certain platforms.

I mean MX5 was the original and then Fiat said well we'll make will bring back the 124 by by just putting their engine but keeping as an MX5. So it's.

But some people say people say they're just MX5 and drag because it's you know it's not the it's not the original that is that that is the thing that I wanted to talk about next time because like it doesn't take away from the actual car.

Like do you do you think it takes away from the ownership experience knowing that my car is a is a Mazda 323 instead of being a laser or knowing that your feats 124 spider is a as an inferior MX5 as as they would probably think was the best.

I think the argument has been made.

Look, some people obviously may want to see the Fiat 124 Spider as like something real special, but he's just.

Considered to be like a it's also a sports car convertible, you know, nice, not terribly quick.

Then you can be like, Oh well, the MX5 is that, so it's not really looking down at either car.

If you've got some idea in your head that defeat has to be some kind of extravagant really, really cool thing, then yes.

Whereas I think with the the EUR and let's just say the the, the, I think there's there's quite a leap that you're supposed to make sure that the price as. Well, I think it all depends on

more like. No, no.

Like if you're looking at it like Lamborghini, like Lamborghinis got that sports sports car.

Yeah, sports car name, you know to it.

So obviously, like if you're then you're comparing to an Audi that also does have sports cars, but like you have got obviously normal everyday cars as well, you know.

So it just depends like I've actually, I was actually looking on and I don't know if he's a YouTuber, he's got his page.

But what he does, I think it's, he's in the States.

He buys these super cars that are smashed like full smashed buys them. Yeah, buys them for really

cheap. They get them for like 5-6

grand, probably 8 grand Max buys them.

Fixes them all up, takes them back to the dealer, get them to run through the whole test to see that if if anything is wrong, you know, anything's wrong or anything like that.

And then, yeah, and he's basically got like you can buy a Lamborghini for like say 13 grand and then he spends it, puts a parts on it, spends it up.

I'd say under probably 56 degree to get a Lamborghini.

Yeah, you know, it just, yeah, I mean, look, if you're comparing like Ford and Mazda, I'd say, you know, it doesn't really matter. Like a three 2-3 and laser like

pretty similar and you're allowed to go to days like, you know like a a message of stuff like you know that's the same card, well loud. So that's your camaraderie

situation, which I think is positive.

Whereas again with some of these it's more like yeah, you know, you just pay the extra money for the same.

Basically, would you say Scotty a super rocking up to BMW day, being the Super, is the cheaper car for for for what you're getting would it would it do you reckon they piss off the BMW?

I mean, I mean. You can also jump in on this

because you sold them for years. Would that not make people that

own BMW happy? Hmm.

I think it depends who it is. I I guess you've got.

Fans. And purists.

Yeah. So I think the purists will be

ticked off because they want it to be originals.

Gotta be BMW because. People get pissed off, will get

pissed off because it's it's too reliable.

Global. I was gonna say that the person

who owns the set four is probably different to somebody with like A5 series. Yeah, you know, they might be

there for more sports cars. BMW is and be like, you know,

you're welcome. Whereas yeah, it depends on what

kind of snobbery we're looking at.

So what are you going to add that as well?

It's like manufacturers modifying cars they're putting their own take on, you know, like they're doing their own take on the MX5. Um, are you doing their own take

on using the V10? Um, yeah.

It's just like modifying, but with more money behind them.

I guess Toyota grabbing the Z4, they got that platform and they turn it into their own, but they're building it off that platform. So it's like a version of

modifying. Which is a bit more extreme than

what's your everyday person does.

That's actually a really good way looking at it going yeah it's I don't really think about and that way before because it's yeah, it is essentially they're they're they're customising your body for the customising interior for their customising all these things. Choice.

They chose the MX5 platform for a reason.

It's great. It's it's a great platform.

So if you're a mass, if you got a Maza Annex 5 and you see one of those fears, well. You should be happy that they

chose your platform of car because of how good it is.

And you know, did their own version of it.

I mean, that's that's awesome to see people grabbing different platforms and making their own versions of what they want it to look like. It's a shame when they make one

that doesn't look as good as the original.

So what's it? What's a great?

Car that isn't the original. That was a badge engineered

something, but it was better than the original.

Like, what's a real cracker? I'm struggling to think of 1.

That is a great question, and it's a hard question because usually the original was the best.

That's what they base it all up, right.

So. MC12 MC Bill The answer.

Besides the the incredible expensive that that that car is.

It's a $4,000,000 race car you can drive.

On the road, damn it, it is. Someone could you want?

I don't, yeah, I I don't know that well that that's better than, that's actually better than original.

I personally think the Super is better than the Z4, the current Z4, I think it looks better and I think it from all accounts drives better. So I think that's probably the

one that's like the big one. But yeah, that's that's kind of

tough one. Is it just on that point,

there's there's another sort of category that we haven't looked at and it's manufacturers that have, you know, developed and engineered and built a model that's been, you know, quite successful for for them. And then they said right, well,

that's been fun. We'll move on to the next one

And then they sell all the tooling and everything and then it becomes, oh hello, this is here's here's this car again, but it's got different badges. 3 three come to mind straight away

master with the original 121 which they sold the the.

The guys to Kia and that became the Festiva Festiva.

Yes, Yep. Which one is better?

Um. Which one of the?

Bubble No. No, no, the one before that.

So yeah, eighties 80s. Yeah, the 121 was better than

the festival. Are you really interested to

know how many they sold over the 121 compared to the festivas?

Because you can hear that was a hugely popular car in Korea and the and in Europe and here also then engineered as a four door rather than just a three door as it was as 121.

The other one was some GM with their one of their teacup projects, you know, well after Geminis and stuff.

But the Opal cadet became the Daewoo Cielo.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So again, probably not as good a car as the Opal, although with Korean reliability. As bad machine, those little the

little shell or the 1.5 I that then became the cello and were

bad. But I mean that would have sold

way more cadets because it was a very old design before the day we got it. Yeah.

They were all ignoring the penultimate example, this.

And it said he spends W 140. Becoming.

The Sang Yong Chairman. Chairman.

Yes, it was a. I think they probably sold a

few. I thought it was an, I thought.

The chairman was based on an E Class.

I. Think it was a W124?

Yeah, I think it was. I think I had a lot of 124 bits

on it, yeah. That they that they made into

the senior chairman. It was a big yeah.

I mean, I don't argue the original was better, you know?

Do you think I don't know? I don't know.

I said Bob statement it. Would I know?

I know, I know. It's controversial.

No. It was the DS class because it's

such a big badge of thing. But maybe not.

All right, we're missing. We're missing a good Ripper

here. Maybe someone would already say

it, but they haven't yet. That would be the Mazda Rd

Pacer. Yes.

Of course, how could we forget? Yeah, based off the beautiful

was it H? HJ or print.

HJ Print. Yeah, premiers.

Um. Fantastic looking car except

they put a little 13B in it and cause this thing weighs like what way? Like 1 1/2 tonnes or something?

There's a heavy yeah, what's not known for its its power or frugality, shall we say. It goes nowhere unfortunately.

I reckon it would have been awesome if they had the three rotor back then and put the three rotor in it.

Yes. Oh, sorry, but it's kind of tell

little story. I was out for me stroll the

other night and I came across a man in a driveway with an E46 convertible upon Jack stands and I'm like, well.

Can't resist an E46 on jackstands, although I gotta find out what's going on with it.

So I start chatting to the guy and he's not the owner of the car, he's a mobile, like electronics, you know, mechanically, you know, Sparky. And I said yeah.

Doing a whole lot of stuff to it.

For the client blah blah blah. And something had other cars, he

said. Yeah, I got a couple of Unos,

you know, coops. And I said.

Really. What sort of?

Unos coop. So he's got a couple of those,

you know, triple rota unos. Cosmos.

But they don't have engines in them.

There's someone's proof with the engines out of them to do something else with them. Wow.

I said, I know I've got a friend who's got one of those.

And so I got his number. And I said, well, I'll check to

my mate, who's a good friend of all of ours, and we'll see see if he can hunt down an engine, you know, if he knows of any, you know, you could put them in touch.

So he was very grateful for that.

But I thought, isn't it random? You just stopped to chat someone

in the driveway and suddenly you.

Talking about triple rotor. That he doesn't have, It's very

strange. And the guys?

Like, who the hell is this guy walking?

I wasn't even in my suburb. Like I'm just.

See, that's that's the game. You're on your side.

You come to the north suburbs. Sure, somebody's driveway.

Ask him any questions. Your life will not come back

from that. I was just like, he's that

happened. I'm like, hey, what's happening

on the E46? Yeah.

He's like, Oh yeah, doing this. He just, he was happy to chat

straight away. I'm like, yeah.

I'm just some random guy walking past in a in a hoodie.

So yeah, I could have been stabbed.

In a black. Yeah.

Well, you know, I think it's conquest time.

Which was also a couple of different things Chevrolet.

Spark. Spark, yeah.

OHP Ford Probe and metre Mazda MX6.

Yeah that that that that that that was my that was not my my big. Failed Pro Master MX6 Ohm

Controversial. Which one looks better?

I think the probe looked better. How do?

I no, I don't think so. I mean, you know, we kind of

probe. It's kind of.

It's gonna look better. It doesn't, no.

This is my. Good looking.

Car They're trying to make it a Mustang as well, don't forget.

Don't forget it was supposed to be the the the replacement of the thing you are. You are absolutely.

Correct, I said. A lot of the A Mustangs.

Hello, I haven't seen them soon the ads.

No, I've seen a couple on the road.

No, you're really gonna buy one like you only buy Mustang for the noise. Yeah.

Yeah, you gotta buy moustache for the silence for the.

Actual radio now. Yeah.

Goodnight. I don't think it's the saddest

thing. I've seen a name, a name on

Facebook where you've got the E Mustang and then you've got the actual Mustang and the and the guys like.

With it, no. The the meme goes.

Hey, Dad. And then the other Mustangs like

you're not my son. Oh.

No, that's good. Well, gentlemen, we ready for

the quiz. I'm ready.

Let's go. I'm just blocking it so they

can't see nothing. Alrighty.

Let me get it up on my phone. Keep your secrets then.

Yeah, well, you know. Who's in the cuisine?

No, no, that he's he's the quiz master.

Master, Master. No, he doesn't need them.

We'll we'll. Share.

So we've got Edwards, we've got David, We've got Scotty, We've got Alan, We've got Tyrone playing tonight.

Star quiz. You know the rules, John. 10

questions plus some bonus questions.

Are you gentlemen ready? Guy.

Question one, what vehicle in the USA had the same model name over two different makes? From the 50s all the way to the

all the way to 1999? It was the same model, the same

model name. But over two different

manufacturers so say exact same car.

Should have like Kobe. Incorrect.

Also, to yell your name Ed, I'm just saying cut in line there.

Well, sorry, Colin. Shenanigans.

So it it. Ran from two different

manufacturers in the same family manufacturers.

In the same family, manufacturers, correct.

Yeah. It's a brand.

It's it's the same brand same brands are like it's the same well under, I'll give you a hint, it's under the under the GM umbrella but there were tubes.

Two brands particular had this one car named exactly the same thing and was exactly the same car, just with the different just with the different logo on the front end of it.

Like I should know this. Alan, I'm going for half a

point. Yeah.

Is it the GM's equivalent to a Crown Vic?

Incorrect. Alright, fine.

I don't know idea. There's this question actually

came from a from a listener of the show diversity.

Let me give you another shout out.

Really, really good question. And when I pulled out, I'm like,

Oh yeah, they they were exactly the same.

And you see what, all movies and stuff, especially from that era.

There's a bloody van. Not, not a van.

Alright. It was a chance.

Answer the people. You, you guys, you gentlemen.

Yeah, I think I'm out. Yeah, yeah, Scotty.

Is one of them Cadillac? Later on it was based on a

Cadillac. It was catalogue shared parts

with it, but not this one in particular.

OK, now me out then. It was the Chevy and GMC

Suburban. They called it the exact same

car. 11, yeah. What I thought of.

Yeah. Bonus question which

manufacturer brought to Australia?

David. Alright David, just he just

picked you, David. More than manufacturer was

General Motors, but it was badged.

Holden Suburban. It was fun, fun story about that

the last, the last forty of them, I think they couldn't sell because not. Many people wanted to buy them.

They got done in the Hale at Suttons of Chlorine in Sydney, so the story goes, and Holden made a lot of money out of it.

I'm very happy. Very happy getting rid of them.

Question 2, Scott. Check.

David, you're on one, just so you know.

Yeah. Anyone.

Anyone's game? Turn that phone anymore, You

gonna shout to them? Question 2.

One new Kia has been recently released to the public.

David. David.

Is it the V6 GT? Incorrect.

It was. It was, it was even more recent

New one. It's a new model of a certain

car that they sell. Big news for me and we all like

these cars on this show. They're just putting it out.

No, I'll keep contour. The cable contour is absolutely

correct. Lot of night released the new

keeper Contour. Look any good?

I haven't seen that. Yeah, it looks good.

I like it. Because it's still a GT line.

They haven't announced specs yet, but they're announced all the pictures. It's a tough looking little car.

Looks really cool. Question 3.

The new Mercedes C63 AMG. Has its full name of what?

So putting it this way, it is a big name if you can name the whole thing. I'll give you 2 points if you

can name half it. As you know, it's gonna be more

than half. I'll give you, I'll give you

one. What's the question?

What do you mean by its name? The new 663 has got a lot it's

it's got a name like it's it's it's not just called the Mercedes C63 AMG it's got Mercedes AMG C63 dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. So if you can name for me the

the whole name which discards stupidly has, I will give you the chocolates. Alright, I'm going for it

because I'm not going to get it. It's a Mercedes C60.

They don't buy it because it doesn't have a good engine anymore. I would happily give you half a

point for that, for that response, Mr Deep Singh, but no, that is incorrect. Scott.

Scott. Is it the Mercedes Benz C63 AMG

Black Line Special Edition? No, it's incorrect.

Yeah, I. Think we're being true though,

Scotty? That might eventually, yeah.

Yeah, wait 5 minutes. Anybody else wanna gonna wanna

have a guess? We don't know.

Alright, yeah, it is not a Mercedes Benz anymore.

It is Mercedes AMG C63SE Performance Hybrid.

That is what it's called now. Yeah, too much.

What a wank. Filling out the orders for those

hours. So it's got, it's got, it's got

two left 2 letters in it. Like they're just spaced out.

So it's like Mercedes AMG 63, then then E Performance Hybrid.

So that is just a complete utter farce.

There's a shit. Question 4 Shanghai Micah was

available on Which Australian? Shanghai Mika.

That was a Commodore colour. It was a Commodore colour,

Edward. I'll give you one mile, one

point. I'll give you an extra point if

you can guess which model it came up, which common ML.

EDEDV. These are incorrect.

I did David. BE.

Incorrect. Might be like the IRS.

Never heard. Or.

No, it was on the VX Commodore. Mr Button, you're VX.

What colour is that? It was a red because they had

red hot and they had Shanghai red, which was a lot of red.

My tungsten. The song Little Deuce Coupe is a

song performed by Which band? Hey David, this is who.

Wants to be a billionaire. Who was first?

That was David right now from our end, yeah.

Mind. Anyway, whatever.

The Beach Boys. Isn't The Beach Boys is correct.

It was about a 32 Ford. Thank you General.

You know what I've done? Question 6A movie question.

This is for Scotty. This one, this one particular

Scott. Cause it's a movie question.

Mission Impossible. Fallout.

Saw Tom Cruise drive many BMW's. The oldest BMW being a what?

Oht. God damn.

It I never watched. It.

I saw it, but I don't know my damn BMW.

It's the old. It is an old one, yes, but.

Alright, I'll. Alum.

Is E32A thing. No, I was asking is that a

thing? Is that being only thing?

He's 32. No.

No. What's the damn it?

He said something. Yeah.

No, it's no, it's it's he 36 a thing that it is.

Yes, it's one before. That's all I can say.

Well, it's incorrect 11. The.

Scott. E 34.

Incorrect. David.

David. 8:30. Incorrect.

The question was. Mission Impossible Fallout,

which is the last Mission Impossible before the car was about but about to drop. So Tom Cruise drove many BMW.

It was obviously sponsored by BMW.

This may be the oldest BMW he drove being a what?

E 38 Seven series. Incorrect.

No idea. It was an E 28 five series he

drove. 28. OK singers, none of you got it.

None of you want to get the bonus question, so I've gotta.

Wait, ask the first question. Do you?

What colour was it? Alan.

Alan. He was.

It is like a Beijing colour. It's incorrect.

Damn it, Why? It's a losing book.

Was silver. Incorrect.

Red, Red. Incorrect.

Incorrect. It was olive green, yes.

Well, the chase in Paris. It was chasing Paris, correct?

Yes, point for that. Questions about I'll give you

half point. Cause you didn't reference that,

I'll pay. I'll pay you then.

I'm. Christian 7, the last version of

Ford Focus Rs sold here, was a limited run.

What was it called? Except for I've limited Ed.

It is incorrect. So the last focus arrest they

had here, which was the Mark three, they had a limited run at the end. What was it called?

Was just a limited. Edition.

Limited editions? Correct.

Yeah. What?

There you go. Question 8.

The Griswolds from National Lampoons and all of that family, Family Truckster is based off What Car?

Oh. I'm sorry there.

What the family truck style was called the car drive it was it's it's a big famous part of the of the movie.

It's a it's arguably a character in this movie.

It's a real. Car.

It is a real car. I just can't remember.

The triple banger name it's got, it's got 2 words to it.

Yeah, I don't know what it's called.

These questions get to left field.

And so she's getting too close to all Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. But, you know, car Redneck

Edition or something. I don't know.

No clue guys. Let's stick to the movies,

alright, he does. Better.

All right. OK, well, let's go to stick to

the movies from now on. Here is it based on based on

forward. It was based on a Ford.

That'll give you .5 Scott, if you give me.

If you give me another, if you give me.

Some water on the sides. Because I want to call the Ford,

Ford, Woody or something like that and I don't.

Know that's incorrect. David, is it Country Squire?

That is correct. It is the Ford Ltd Country

Squire though. Well done to that.

And it was 2 words. Did I?

Sorry, David. You're about to donate, you

point to Squad. Score.

Matt was gonna donate your point to Scotty.

Alright, thank you. We we caught it out for you.

School Check. Toronto score scoring .581 alum,

second on 2.5 and tonight's winner, currently currently with

leading is on three is Mr Prince.

Question #9. If my car runs a 4G63, what

brand would you Scott? Mitsubishi.

Mitsubishi is absolutely correct.

Was that left Philippines? As well.

No, that's fine. Question 10 BYD released their

new dolphin where Ed EDD. The world.

Sea World They released their new car, the Dolphin, at SeaWorld. And even a laugh really did.

They really did. That risk got involved and this

was there. I'm sorry, that's just that that

is what I. Believe is 2000.

We will see you at least a dolphins cause.

It's got to be SeaWorld. Them all too.

Yeah. Dropped in the morning.

You be with your. People you, you just see free

will you? Just like you float to the

surface, Yeah. You shouldn't have had the car

in the water with them. Well, score check, gentleman.

Tonight's winner on a grand total of 3.

Grand sale. Grand sale is Mr. David Prince.

Well done. Oh, there it is.

We are up to 10 already. This is my friend that still.

Don't know, OK. When you're winning.

Excuse me, gentlemen. I think that's a podcast.

OK. Uh, let's do some plugs.

Mr. David Prince, Mr Edward Bunting, you do a podcast?

To your turn, David. We certainly do, Matthew.

Thank you for. Asking, it's called.

Auto Retro and we talked to people about the cars of their lives get to get to set for the second series, second season in production and it actually is in production.

Is it? I evidently, evidently.

Very good to hear. Also, David, my students were

very thankful for you for giving them a shout out the other day.

They they are brilliant. They sent me a message on teams

so they're like, oh you guys are shirts.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

So yeah, they're they're pretty chuffed with that.

Really. Well, you were disparaging

towards it. We were to lose some subscribers

on my YouTube channel. I met your students know?

Do they know me from the podcast?

Ohss Usually they virtually. They listen every week and I'm

more worried that these kids are playing my show at 18th and 17th birthday parties like that for me.

Climate control. I could be like, I could be sort

of famous at your school. Well, yeah, I mean, you would

be. Liberty.

Could I come and do a like a talk to the class?

I'll get you to be a keynote speaker.

How does that sound like? Uh.

The opportunities in the motor industry.

CRT At your school, Maddie. Kids stay in school, study hard,

don't go into the car industry. Drugs are Bad MK.

Drugs are bad. Stay in school.

That unless you own a government sanctioned dispensary or somersaults or medicinal marijuana.

Too sick? Well, always, always the

loophole. Always the loophole.

Lol boy Rizzy Ross. As you said, he is swimming with

the dolphins. Hopefully not the car dolphin at

SeaWorld. You know he's all about the

electric space, so hit him up. backcarloop.com dot AU.

You can also find him on Facebook.

I just search up Carly. Are you on Facebook?

Correct. Um.

YouTube channel is flourishing I think.

Yes, the 28. Yeah, so go on YouTube, find us

just search cartoon, podcast. We show up pretty early and give

us the subscribe and look forward to more video content in the future. We're coming very soon, Scotty.

Golf tip with with Scotty. Yes.

So yesterday I went out and had a hit.

I went to the beautiful Wood End golf course.

If you're ever out there, hit it up, but get ready for some hard walking. Yeah, passes still.

Don't give gold cock at golf carts out, No.

It's too wet at the moment, so you can't use the golf.

Scott isn't. Look at charity baseball scores.

Yeah, it's mainly kind of run by a lot of volunteers and that's.

Just go and. Well worth, you know, painting

and helping it out, but they do. On one of the holes, I think

it's the 16th. To get up the hill there's a

rope. You press the button and the

rope starts moving and you gotta hold on to it to help you get up the hill. It is ridiculous.

I guess my tip is, and I've said it before, is your grip.

Hmm. On the Golf Club I noticed I was

having trouble with the driver and I kept hitting it to the right and I'm wondering why it's cause I had the club face opened. So I tested it out when I was

coming down I noticed it was open.

So when I go down to hit, flies out to the right every single time. Make that adjustment with my

grip and bang it was spot on. So just double check that grip

on your shaft. Absolutely.

I think, I think I'll listen has got, got, got, got some, got some important content with that.

I'm happy to come around and give you a hand with that matter with your shaft. How to grip it properly buddy?

Wow. I will.

I will. I will have to take you up on

that offer. As I bet you've been swinging it

out to the right quite a lot. OHS You guys crack me up.

Suitable for school children, Scott.

This is often enough. Yeah.

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