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Welcome to Car Talk. It's Tuesday night here at 98.9

NW FM. It's me, Manny J in the studio

with Chad the Bell Online with Mr Rob and Harley, the Dynamic duo, and David Prince from All from Japan in his hotel room in Japan. It's just like, I just feel like

what we're doing, like musical chairs in Japan at the moment, Like one person's in there, one person's out, one person's in, one person's out. So I think.

We've all been there within the last Where were you there, Chad, within the last 12 months? 24 months. 12 wow time, time to

come back. Yeah, Yeah, I would say that.

Oh, no, it's good. It's good.

How are we gents? How are how are we going?

What's been happening in your worlds?

Robin Harley back from Japan, David Prince in Japan and Chad in studio. Let's let's crack on with some

updates. Chad, what's been happening with

you, man? Oh yeah, you know, forever

tinkering with long we can had a little bit of cast off the lovely Maddie J came over and helped me with the Civic and we attempted attempted as the strong word keyword to do a brake booster delete install, which is there's a kit that's sold by a company called Horned and they basically replaces the IT replaces the booster. So you get a direct sort of

pedal feel with your brake pedal.

It was a lot of messing around. I'm not going to lie.

Maddie was all up in the dash, all up underneath and trying to release the brake pedal so we could modify it.

But yeah, it was sort of fighting us at every, every turn and it actually. Did.

Yeah, it was. It was a lot of, a lot of back

pain and neck pain and yeah, it was all, all kinds of pain.

So yeah, we, we got most of it done on the Friday and then we had to part ways for the day. And then the next day I

continued a little bit and I managed to pull the brake pedal off which had to have a new hole re drilled which is a little further up from the original hole.

And that's because of the pivot points high with the new.

The pivot point is higher on the new well with how the the mark the brake master cylinder now sits, it's slightly higher.

So the brake pedal also needs the engagement point where the pedal hits the rod. The push rod that goes into the

cylinder needs to be higher. So you get the basically changes

the ratio of how much pedal input you need to do versus how much brake sort of efficiency. So, so I did that.

I put it all back in and not still not 100% sure, but there's still some sort of gremlin. And it may be that the, the

brake masters on the, that I, the that Maddie got for me from The Wreckers may be toast. Or it might just need a

different cap on it to hold pressure.

Because this is not, yeah, it's it's not, it's not holding the pressure and it's not holding the fluid, which just seems to be just wiping out as I apply brake pressure to it.

So just change out. Is it?

Is it leaking out from the? From where the where the lines

go into it? Or is it leaking from the actual

unit? Yeah, I think it's leaking from

the unit itself. Like the lines seem to be dry,

but I can see like residue from where the reservoir hits the the actual cylinder and also just sort of like all over the reservoir itself. So I'm fairly sure, I'm not 100%

sure, but yeah, I'm fairly sure that it's either the cap or it's just the whole unit is a bit messed up.

So it's hard for me to tell though, because I'm doing the brake pedalling and also trying to see if it's leaking.

So it's like I'm, you know, I'm Stretch Armstrong sort of thing.

So yeah, I am going to need a second person to sort of come and validate for me. But yeah, we'll say I'm going to

do a, a, a cap swap and see if that fixes it.

If not, then might just be a new brake master cylinder from a supplier somewhere like a new one instead of a second hand unit from from The Wreckers. So that's where we're at with

the Civic. I just, yeah, just.

Before that, did you end up getting a pedal afterwards or you still didn't get a pedal? Not much like it would build

pressure like as I as I pumped the pedal, it would build a little bit of pressure and then it would disappear.

And I think maybe that's just it losing pressure through somewhere of the some part of the cylinder.

Yeah, I could see like, you know, drips and drabs of brake fluid in the engine Bay. But it wasn't like an awful

amount. But it must be enough that the

pedal is not holding. Did you bleed them again?

I. Bleed them again.

Yeah, I did it twice on that day and still, yeah, it was.

There's no air left in the system, that's for sure.

Unless there's air being introduced every time I brake, which then might be also. The cap because it's like

pushing. Yeah, I thought.

From what I understand, break like those units are usually the reservoir sealed from the actual cylinder itself.

Yeah. So that there's no air being

introduced. But I don't know it's, it's

going to take a little bit of. Have you spoken at home?

Like have you asked them? Said hey.

I haven't yet. I wanted to see if it was a, you

know, user error first or like parts failure before.

I wanted to bother those guys, but I might just give them an email to see if they have any suggestions.

In the meantime, I'll try the cap, and if not, I'll try a different brake mouse cylinder. And if that's no good, then

maybe I'd have to get a new one and see what's going on.

Yeah. And that was sort of it.

Yeah. You came over to help me with

that. And we're actually going to work

on the Mercedes. Well, we we dive right into the

Civic and we just didn't even get anywhere near the Mercedes.

You didn't even look at it. Yeah.

So I was on the way home and I was like, what do you need to pull that? Yeah, see.

It, I know it was like we just got so like into the Civic and trying to get it going that, yeah, we just forgot everything else. So and that was it for me.

I didn't really do much. I was just sort of hung around

during the weekend and did some stuff at home and yeah, that was that was my long. Weekend weekend think I but like

big progress though. Like it was a big job.

Yeah, yeah, it was way bigger than I expected.

So yeah, but yeah, I think, I think maybe it's the cup.

If it's not the cup, we'll we'll go get another marzipan for another Ek. And if that's doing the same

thing, then we know if something's wrong there.

Yeah. And we'll and we'll have to, I

think so now. But thank you for all your hard

work, Maddie. I appreciate that.

Well, good. My only other option is that

we've got the 2 lines backwards, but I don't know how that would be the case because. No, I don't think so.

You know, I'm not sure, but I began it's unless the whole cylinder itself is designed differently.

Yeah. I doubt.

But yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

Anyway, Robin, Harley updates with you guys.

How you guys been personal? It's been a while since you had

you on Harley. Yeah, been awhile, been awhile.

Have you guys been going and what's been, what's the latest?

I think we're still getting over the holiday hangover from Japan, yeah. Well.

The jet lag can't be that bad. Or is that what you did in Japan

that you're getting over? Yeah, the 20.

Yeah, just drinking and eating and I'll put on three kilos.

Not a bad effort. It's a good.

Effort, yeah. In in 10 days.

That's pretty good. It's.

Pretty. Good.

Well. What have I done well?

It's a PB. How how many gils did you eat?

We we, what do we have? All sorts of stuff.

Ramen we had, we had what you call it sushi.

Sushi with. Yeah, all types of stuff.

Yeah. You know, we had it.

I don't know. So the food was good.

It was busy. Like it's pretty fairly tiresome

driving everywhere, which is, you know, it's a fair way to drive, but. You've got to concentrate.

It takes it takes a lot of concentration, doesn't.

It it does a bit, yeah. You really like if you pull out

to the right, you know, you've got to be careful.

There's a lot, a lot of fast cars going down the right lane, then you've got to pull back in and then they slow you down a little bit and it's hard to pull back out again.

You just got to really watch out and get go with the flow of traffic where you can and then try not try to drive at your pace at the same time, which is different to everyone else's.

There's a real slow K cars, slower K cars, and then there's a fast cars between all of that. So yeah, it's very the signs

again, like I mentioned the signposting, it shown 50 kilometres on a, on a Expressway, on the signposts, on two of the lines. But then are people doing 120?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, as well. Don't go less than 50.

Don't go less than 50 or it's recommended you know it's.

Honestly the the law laws are are pretty vague.

It's. They are, but yeah, so after a

while, I I heard there was cameras at all the tunnels.

So just sort of try to slow down before the tunnels and slide and then speed up again with all the other cars when they do speed up and then pull back again and try to keep the keep to some sort of, I don't know, steady 120. But it's very difficult because

if you try to sit on 120 on the outside lane, people doing 13140. Yeah.

You're constantly just waving left and right like to to let other cars through. If you wanted to take it, take

it easy. Yeah, yeah.

Take it easy at 1:20 and here we are.

You know than any state. If we go right, we can't even do

100. We're so conditioned to like,

not do any like speed. Yeah, just like you'll you'll,

you'll lose your licence. Naughty, naughty, essentially

that that that's how that's how they they're making the.

Just quickly my friend got a speeding ticket today.

He was, he just when he was in Thailand he was doing 100 and he's doing 128 in 120 K zone and you got you got a $23 fine for going 8K over the limit. $23. Mate.

I, I, I I would afford it, Rob. 500 Baht 5. 100 baht, I mean the

admin to do that fine is more than $23.

You would think so. That's crazy.

It's got the photo of him and everything, his car, the ball is really nice picture of him and the.

I was in Thailand. Yeah.

Yeah, well, if. They were the fans here.

People would be doing a lot more often, wouldn't they?

Yeah, 30 bucks. Here you go.

Yeah, here you go. That's yeah.

Apart from that, the race is good, you know, went to Liberty Walk, you know, with, with Carter's son himself, the one Mr Liberty Walk himself. It's pretty cool.

Yeah. So, yeah, that was good.

And they took us around, we went, went to all the other shops around and cooked down the road and and it took us, took us for a drive around and sit stay as long as you want.

Sign this one of his one of his books for us.

Fantastic. That's so fun.

We're also joined by Scotty Doe. How are you, Scotty?

I'm pretty good. How are we all?

Good, we'll get with your carpets in a second, but Mr Prince updates with you. You're in the land of the rising

sun. Have any fun at your end?

Well, it was a quick turn around because last Tuesday night I missed the podcast because I was on the spirit of Tasmanian bobbing around like a cork in that Bass Strait.

And I tell you what it came. We we talked about just after

seven, I think at, at Geelong. And then you obviously you got

to drive from Geelong. That road at 7:30 any night is

like a it's dangerous. It's absolutely dangerous.

The tracks would tear past right up your if they weren't tearing past, they'd be right up your toe.

You'd be sitting on the speed limit because you had a car in front of you doing just under the speed limit.

It was just crazy and and black as night.

So no, no St lighting sort of over the regular part of the freeway. It was, it was, that was the

most, I thought, Gee, this isn't doing anything for Victorian tourism. If you're just coming off the

island for the first time and having to drive up to Melbourne, you'd be, yeah. So that was the, that was the

driving in Tassie was fantastic. We were in the ZRV and we,

there's some fabulous roads over there.

It was really, really good, really easy and, and good.

And then we got home Tuesday night.

Then I flew up here with a mate on Thursday.

So it feels like we've been there here about a month, but it's actually only like 5 days I think.

So yeah, we haven't done a lot of driving.

We hired a car on, I don't even know what day it was now, Sunday I think. And because we hadn't booked

anything, we just grabbed whatever we couldn't eat.

They didn't have any cake cows because obviously they go first because they're the cheapest. So we had a new fit, but made me

laugh because I tell you that they must make them, especially with the rental car companies. It didn't even have adjustable

intermittent wipers. But actually.

Wow, it was. So bare bones basic, you've got

no idea. It was ridiculous.

And petrol, not hybrid, interestingly.

So they don't even put the hybrid tech in the in the base models, which I didn't think they actually built those Jazzes that and not in a non hybrid version.

It may be just it's the current, it's the new shape that we never got, never got sold in Australia.

There are a few grey imports coming in now.

But yeah, I've just enjoyed, We just drove up into the country and they found some really great roads.

It was really good fun. Then the rain started.

That made it even more fun and as well as fun as it can be in ACVT 1.3 Litre Jazz. But yeah, no, no, no fluffy

pedals or anything. Just just chief go basically,

yeah. Just met the pedal essentially.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's just been great.

And as, as everyone knows, it's just great walking along the street and we're walking along the back street and seeing what's parked in people's garages and stuff.

I've seen some incredible cars. I bought the only new Atomic

that came out that I wanted was the Mini Delica.

So I've, I've got a little fleet of mini Mini Delicas.

I've got my my Kyoto Lemonade. That's got a very nice gin,

actually, Hararoka gin with the hint of ginger.

Yeah. So we're looking forward to it

just doing a bit more tricking around.

We'll in the hire a car tomorrow or Friday and head sort of down through some of the islands in the Cito Inland Sea.

We're down in Hiroshima at the moment.

And then on Saturday we head up to Kanazawa, so we'll hire a car up there as well. We're up there for four days and

we'll drive down into the Alps and into the mountains, so.

That's so fun. Yeah, yeah, it should be, should

be good. But other than that, I've it's

just been car spotting really. I haven't, I haven't done any

work on the cars. I don't think I've been opened

the garage the day I was home. So hopefully they're all still

in there, tucked up under their covers.

Hopefully less sleeping. Less sleeping, yeah?

Very. Good, Dave, do you drive?

Do you catch a train between big cities and then hire cars?

Or do you drive? Yeah, yeah, well, parking so

tricky, you know, like and and you pay for it anyway.

And they went red cars for 12 hours.

So if you just walking off the street, you can have them for the day and drop them back when you're done with them and you don't have to worry about parking.

So yeah, we've, we've got a, we, we came into Osaka and we actually just got a Japan Rail W pass.

So it actually won't take us to Tokyo, but we're flying in and out of Osaka, got us to Kyoto and got us to all the places we want to go. And it was about $270 instead of

I think the current seven day ones, $700.00 or something.

Yeah, for AJR pass. So it's pretty crazy.

But yeah, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to drive.

Yeah, have a car for sort of the week or something.

I I don't think that'd be worthwhile, I don't think I mean, it makes it easy, you know, but if you're in the city, if you're looking at cities, if you're certainly rural and planning to cover a lot of ground rurally, yeah, cars, it's great because you can stop where exactly where you want.

But what we? What we found, our friends

called a train from Tokyo to Nagoya, and we drove from Tokyo, Nagoya, but we got to stop at the Toyota Museum and we got to stop at at Liberty Walk, where they sort of come to NARD.

Do we have to catch track out there again?

But, you know, how do I go about hiring a car?

So they have a few things that we didn't.

Yeah, yeah. Yep, I can.

I can see how you do that. Yeah.

But if you know where you want to go, although just grabbing a car and driving and seeing what you find is fantastic too.

I mean, you never know what you're going to come across.

I came across a yard just a a rural sort of shop the other day and there was, there was an original hunt of life.

There was an original 360 Subaru there.

There was a A117 Isuzu coupe that we talked about on the show a couple of weeks ago, totally mounted and completely rusted and gone. I I actually thought of you,

Rob, but I couldn't stop where we were.

There was an S60, the 560 SEC with a body kit.

It looked like a Lorenza kit, maybe or, but completely covered in in in Moss and and rubbish and years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

Rob, get on a flight, go back there and it's.

Right there, Dave, we can save them.

We. Can save them.

I could, I could, I could tell you where it was.

Funny thing, actually, my mate actually videoed is coming down this road because there was it was pouring with rain, but the, the road was really sinuous in winding.

And then we came across as we got closer back into Kyoto, we we came there was this big onset on the left and I thought to myself, that looks really familiar.

I don't know why it looks familiar.

I don't think I've ever been here before.

And then it occurred to me I have when my son lived up there, we actually hired a car one day and we we just drove without the sat NAV on and just drove wherever we wanted.

And he was driving and I video driving down the same Rd with him in like 2018. It's the same Rd.

So all the roads we could have found in there and there was no planning. No like I wonder if I can find

that place. I just thought no, I've seen

that place before. But so I've got videos driving

down the same Rd like 8 years apart.

That's awesome. We come across a just.

Yeah, like you said, you just drive down.

There was out the middle of nowhere.

There's like this Honda workshop and there's all these.

Yeah, fire and everything. Hardly took a photo.

Was that? Oh, that wasn't the way.

This is Zuka. Yeah.

Yeah. A lot of places around it is

like just the random shops. Random Just.

Yeah. Did you come across the Zuka

Twin ring? Twin ring.

Yeah, we only had it because we had a car when I was there with my son and there were two There's there's, it's a bit like my tiki twin ring, but you know, on a. 110th of the scale and the

gate was open so oh, we'll just drive in.

And it was a a club car, a club track day.

And one part of it they were drifting and the other was all these K cars tearing around and it was just just a club day.

And no one said Boo to us. We just drove and got out of the

car, went and had a log, had to talk to a few people.

It was fantastic. But of course, the one thing

about the Japanese, and I said to my mate, you watch, you look at the cars when we get to Hiroshima, Mazda twos everywhere and every K truck has got a magic, magic advantage on it in Suzuka. It doesn't surprise me you'll

find more Honda workshops in Suzuka than you will, you know, in any other part of Japan because the the main factories there. So they're very patriotic.

About their brands though, aren't they a lot like?

They are, yeah, yeah, if they from, well, most of the people in the area work locally, you know, and they, if they live, live, live there, they, they work there or family works there sort of thing. So, yeah, it's all it's all

about keeping the industry going and you know, Japanese is full of those sort of little cottage industries.

Cars aren't exactly cottage industry, but you know, but located, you know, in the area where you live sort of thing.

So it's a fascinating place. Car Talk.

Top tip, get a ticket to Japan. Yeah, that's.

If, if our listeners haven't wanted to go already, you know, it's, it's one of those things, talk about Japan again.

Yeah, that's right, Cynthia. Hopefully everyone hope it.

Feel all listeners haven't tuned out already.

What are the crowds like? David is.

It Kyoto was nuts and we were about two weeks after cherry blossom, so it it would have been three times as bad two weeks ago. So I thought we'd missed it.

But the the crowds in Kyoto were just nuts.

Down near the bamboo forest, a Rashi armour and parts just like that. I've never seen as many people.

Yeah, that's, that's not as bad here, not as bad in Hiroshima because it's out of that golden triangle.

You know, they talk about Hiroshi, they talk about Osaka, Tokyo and Kyoto. But interestingly, the, the

Tokyo, the Japanese Expo started in Osaka last week.

So but it was crowded getting through the airport.

But once you're out of the airport, we were OK.

We stayed just South of the station in a really lovely little hotel that I just found online.

And it's probably one of the best places I've stayed in Japan. And yeah, it was really my mates

has has commented, he has been here about 15 years.

He said, I can't believe how quiet it is.

You know, like whenever you walk in the streets, you know, there's, it's, it's really quiet everywhere we've been so far, but except Kyoto Station and the, and the, and the bamboo forest because it was just desserts.

And for Shumi and Ari, the the temple with the red Tori gates.

We went up there but in the evening and it was still busy but it wasn't what it like, what it's like during the day.

Did you walk to the very top? Right around.

No, it's about four KS or something, isn't it?

It's a long walk. Did you guys do?

It Oh my. We went 2/3.

Yeah, 2/3 Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I get deeper.

We stopped. Well, I remember when, when we

were there with David and, and, and David and Ed and Thomas, we get to the start and we're like, all right, let's go.

And then and then David and and David Day were just like, you guys have fun. And you guys, you guys walked

back down to the cafe. We we walked all the way up.

We came back dredged and sweat like it was it was.

It was so humid I knew I would make make the first, you know, the the first level stuff. And the parking was for free.

We drove straight in, they got us to park there, and the crowd at the train station was just packed.

And we actually drive through the crowds.

Going back to the station is crazy, crazy.

Yeah, it was pretty nuts. Scotty updates with you trying.

To remember, Not much. I didn't do too much car stuff.

Over the holidays. Had a guy come out and fix the

CV boot for me. He replaced that.

Didn't take him too long because it was a job that I didn't want to do. That's about it.

I haven't done anything else nice.

Yeah, pretty chill. Not car stuff.

You had other things on your mind, didn't you?

I did. It is.

New new job starting soon in two weeks.

All right, OK. Oh.

Not today. I thought it might have started

today. Nah, in two weeks.

So two more weeks at the school I'm at and then I'm off.

Nice. Trying out some high school

teaching, so that should be good.

And I'd say next weekend I'll spruce up the R31 and make sure it's all nice and clean and spiffy, ready for the following weekend. Yeah, so that's, that's what

I'll be looking forward to. I'll Chuck in a tank of fuel,

make sure it's all full and ready to go.

Polish up the rims because they're a bit bit dirty so I'll get the metal polisher out. It's nothing stopping us this

time, Scotty, Thanks. For that.

We'll tell you that for you after, yeah.

That's exciting. It'll be good.

We've got to get a picture of all the cards we take together.

Yeah, just just just. Yeah, that'd be great.

Rob. You guys are going to make an

appearance. You'll be able to do that at the

end because everyone leaves suddenly.

Drive and park the cars next to each other.

Take my sister's CRV. Close up, I'm.

Going to take my sister's CRV. Bring it, bring it.

It's Japanese. It's good to go.

See you. Mate.

Saudi Jeopardy car we got. I've got the Echo, I've got the

Echo. We have a Toyota Echo.

That's what I drove that today. Oh, what a car.

Updates with me, so I've had a busy week with cars caught up a lot on the on last week. It's just with a whole bunch of

car admin. I had to have to do so I went to

The Wreckers, but I'll cover that in a minute because I went to side my laser got my laser back.

The new gearbox rebuild gearbox is in driving really, really good gearbox is very tight, so it's still and the clutch is brand new, obviously. So it's just a little bit notch

you to get into gear, but apparently with a bit more use that'll that'll kind of you know, ease up.

So no more horrendous bearing rattle and noise from the from the whole front end of the. Car, yeah.

So, yeah. So what was that, David?

This case scenario. Scenario, yeah, but that's also

brought in with a new issue because now the car's so quiet, I'm hearing little rattles and noises and squeaks and I'm like, I'm like now, now this is this, now that's.

There's other things to do. So like, you know, I'm, I spent

all all morning yesterday I bought, I went to Bunnings and bought bought some like, you know, some, some some door seal rubbers and and things and and and just was, you know, pulled out part of the dash. You know, that sounds a bit

noisy put you put it on Anyway, I my car, my car now smells like a robot factory, but I, I took it for a drive.

It was like, why it is? How good is this?

And then it started again and I'm like, oh, you're kidding.

So it was just like, but it's only, it's like a, it's a tiny residence at like 3000 RPM. Well, that's weird under a bit

of load and it just sounds like something in the dashes doesn't like that resonance. So I'm just like Steph was in

the car and I'm like, bloody hell, what is it like?

I'm just like I started losing it when I went driving the car.

I'm telling Steph on the freeway, I'm like, all right, push that, push that glove boxing.

Like I want to try and know where this noise is going from.

So she's playing bloody twister in the car and I'm, well, I'm just trying to figure out where, where, where this round was coming. But then like I'm, I'm sitting

on the freeway at like 3000 RPM trying to replicate the norms.

So I haven't found it yet, but it's, it's 10 million times quieter than what it used to be. Like it's super quiet in there

now. So my, my thought was like,

well, if it's, if it's not, if it's so quiet, I may not put an exhaust to like, you know, give it to that residence.

I'm never going to hear it anything.

Absolutely. Have you checked the glove?

Box I have checked the glove box.

Yes, I've checked the ashtray. I've checked and I put I put a

rubber in the ashtray. So I've got that it can't be

that. And I'm put the head unit put a

rubber behind it. I've I've put a rubber around

the wiring. So so if it battles it's it's

going to it's not going to do anything.

Oh my God. Mrs Have you checked the

earrings? I've checked the earrings.

Might have been cheaper to go to like hearing Australia and get the get the test done. I feel like we're just getting

ear plugged in, but look, it's actually not.

It's actually not that bad. Like you can't even really tell

steps. Like I can't hear anything.

I'm like I can hear it and. That's 'cause you're a

perfectionist. That's 'cause.

I'm anal returning person so I'm unless you see it after the show and you'll be you'll be like mate, you're an idiot, but.

You would not want to be in any of my cars.

Every one of my cars, even even the I30 has a rattle.

Like, yeah, I just, yeah, every car I have.

The blades got rattles everywhere because of the hardest suspension and also the the cover thing on the back because it's the hatchback that rattles.

There's some kind of metal rattle Ding that happens sometimes over bumps coming from a glove box or somewhere I don't know, happens sometimes and then goes away for a while.

So. Yeah, that's like this, like

it's a little resonance. It's just, it's just, yeah.

I had the Corolla in Japan and had a rattle in a dash just like my Mustang. Same spot, you can just hear it

in a dash all the way. See.

Rob Ford and Toyota are they're different, my friend.

What they're? Not.

We we, we talk a lot of crap on Ford, but it's it's, it's haunting you now. See, it's haunting you.

That rattle's haunting you into Toyotas now, so.

It has. Look, it's it's actually like

compared to like the MR2, which just rattles everywhere.

This is not bad at all. It's actually quite, quite good.

But I went to The Wreckers and I got a front bar for it.

I just got to paint it. So I want to go to front bar.

But someone had in the infinite wisdom had because the grill was actually all right in the car. I took it off, but they used

like a like a like a pry bar and pull off the the front, the Ford badge and damage the grill. I'm like, I'm like like like the

only one I've seen in a long time.

So I'm like, well, I'm not going to buy that.

So I got that. That car also had someone it's

it looks like someone had put a brand new seat belt in it.

So I took the seat belt out of that and then I put it in my car and realised that it's because it's a brand new seat belt.

Someone's someone's redone it. Like really, you know, high in

quality. The pattern's completely

different to the passage design. Oh.

Really, I'm like, I'm like, well, that's, that's I'd only notice that after I put it in. I'm like, oh, this is great.

You know, it's no fraying. It works really nicely.

There's a different cut, differently texture.

Different texture, different pattern.

But like, I don't look at those things like you don't because it's just. Like, no, you're like, it's a

seat belt. Yeah, Betty.

Betty, you don't look at the and you don't use them at the same time. David, have you met me?

This is the guy who's putting rubber in his ashtray so the rattle goes away. Yeah.

So, yeah, all my, all my listeners are going to be like, like he's, he's a, he's a, he's a complete Nutter.

But anyway, so and I honestly think it's my fault for having like a massive well, I had two suburbs in it at one point and it's just like, hey, now, I've still got one Big 12 inch and.

You've rattled everything loose. Yeah, 3. 150,000 K.

As it happens. You'd expect to have more

rattles than what it's got. Actually, it's pretty good.

But yeah, got that got a few extra bits and bobs just just like little screws and stuff got got chads, you know, not working. I have marks the cylinder and

yeah, but happy with the bumper. It's going to crack just a

couple of scuff marks, but that's fine because it's going to get painted anyway. So I want to go drop that off at

the panel shop and then get it painted.

And I'm not going to put it in the car until I get on a club plate because I'm going to go get it PPF D.

So this way, because if you see the front bar, it's just covered in chips from from the ring Rd. So let's get the that front bar

done and then it's I'm happy with it.

The only thing I have to do on that besides just tidying up a few interior bits and bobs. Yeah, Mr Prince, is, is your.

Work coming, you are. Yeah, Yeah.

He does is I'm gonna get gonna get a new seat for it and get a get that just the trim swapped over because, because my chair is actually broken and the and the windshield.

Oh yeah, he's got his new windshield.

And his new windshield. But then that'll be on a club

plate next year. The MR2 that's a different

story. So the the motors out of that

currently Tommy belt gearbox, all the oil leaks fixed.

So the the the front Tommy he the mechanic was like Tommy belt was new, but when they've just put the belt on, they haven't done all the seals and the seals are rock hard and they're just piercing oil. They're from there from the rear

main. And so so he's like whoever did

it just they didn't even change the idlers or anything last time like they've just quite literally slapped the belt on it. So that's what didn't impress

me, but at least it's all getting done properly.

But then they changed the oil and bit of a interesting Oh no bit Milky came out. Oh.

Yeah. So, so they called me today.

They're like, we're about to put the motor back in, but we're doing the oil change while it's out and it's looks like there's a bit of water in the oil. And I'm like, you've got to be

kidding me. Like, like really.

He's like, but it's not the head gasket.

We, you know, we don't think it's the head gasket we're going to take. We're going to test it, but we

think it's the oil cooler has cracked.

So they've got an oil, they've got an oil cooler with the, the, the cooler running through it. And it's a, it's a genuine part.

And he's like, it's just, you know, old and, and we think it's got an internal crack. We're going to test that out as

well. Can you find, can you see if you

can find one? I called around, couldn't find

one. The discontinued Ford, sorry,

Toyota don't make it anymore. I went to Rock auto.

They don't they don't even sell. They sell everything else for

it. The you know, the the mounting

brackets and stuff for it, but they didn't sell the actual you know, I found one second hand for 150 bucks in the US.

They want $500 shipping. That's all for a second hand 1.

So I'm just going to put an aftermarket oil cooler.

I think, yeah, it will do the same job.

It'll be better. I mean, probably more efficient.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So that's my plan and I said

that to him today. I might look just put it up to

market oil cooler on it because I was going to block it off.

But I'm like if it's got it there anyway.

So you may as well just put a cheapy one that works.

We sell them at Supercheap, but not much anyway.

So I'll probably just go grab one and then drop it off to them. But then that'll go back in with

the new clutch with everything. And then they said it should be

really, really good after that. They're actually really

impressed with how good it was for its case.

But they said this, they said this thing's been, you know, it's clearly, it's clearly been loved and driven, but it's been, it's been maintained. So that will come back and then

that'll give me the choice of what do I take to classic Japan, that or the laser. So Rob, if you want to take one

of the cars, you may. But yeah, that's that's those

two. What else have I done?

I. So you got a new clutch and

everything going in the MR2 as well?

New clutch? The flywheel got machined, new

clutch like I've spent a bit on it, but that way I don't have to spend any more on it. Yeah, yeah, I've done.

The Typhoon was last year, the Laser was this year, MR2 this year, and then I'm pretty much set.

That's amazing with with cars, at least for the next 10 years, hopefully. Yeah, I just, I can't anymore.

Good luck with that. Yeah, I know.

So, yeah. So yeah, that's been that.

What else has on my on any other carpets, I think that's pretty much covered me. But yeah, bits and pieces here

and there for the laser and and stuff.

So I'm just just tidying it up. I did when I was and, and here's

another thing that I've I forgot to mention.

When I was putting the new, I put all the new new door rubber and door and body rubber on for the driver's side door because that was all mounted. Well, we've got one from The

Wreckers put that on as well. But when I was when I was

putting the plastic trim on the inside that covers the seat belt and the thing back in went to put it on and it just cracked.

It just completely cracked and half I'm like so.

Back to The Wreckers. Back to the records I go.

I'll try to find another one of those do.

You have to get ASR 21 so black one.

SP20 because they came in black. The other ones are nice, the

other ones are grey. SP20 interior part fits in the

does, Yeah. No, that's incredible.

It's just it's they're the other ones that came to the grey.

Oh yeah, OK, grey. Also the black, I should say.

Yeah, yeah. Well, but yeah, that's just a

little bit annoying. But anyway, that's part of the,

you know, the process fun. So, so yeah, still got to find a

grill for that as well, but we'll we'll get to that.

But anyway, moving on to tonight's topic, we're doing what would you rather's. We'll bring them back this week

before we get into the car quiz. So you know the rules with what

you would you rather's. I'll give you a I'll give you an

example of some of the cars and you have to pick what you would have bought back then and what you would buy now.

So the first one we're going back to the 80s, so eighties 80s nugget coupes, so 4 cylinder non turbo Nuggets that that are a bit of fun, but not like not over the top expensive.

We're going to start with those now.

The first, if the first one is the Nissan XR 1.8.

So like the series two of the second generation Nissan XR, the Honda CRX, the Ford laser text 3 I so non turbo, just the you know, just your your single Cam nugget, your so another the Toyota MR2 and the last spanner in the works is the Honda prelude. So So what would be your quick?

Chat generation. Please so this is.

Yes, when we. Talk the four wheel steer third

generation. 3rd Gen. Yes, third Gen.

So yeah, so XR, MR2, CRX, TX3I, non turbo, because these are all non turbo ones and they prelude back then.

What would you have taken in the late 80s, gentlemen?

That one going first. No one.

'S game to go, even go. I'll go first there.

You go, I'll go. So this is it's hard for me

because I used to own an XL and I yeah, that's not what I talked about that I had AI had a white 88 XR 1.81.8 yeah, it was a

bucket. It was an absolute bucket.

It didn't have the original engine in it and it was just like, it was awful, but it was a amazing, it was an amazing car to drive and had all sorts of problems and and yeah, no wonder I like I got rid of it at one point, which I still regret.

But out of all those cars, I think I would choose the Mr too, because it's a pretty, I mean, out of the whole bucket, it's very special. So you would have bought that

back then? I would have bought that back

then. OK, Yeah.

I mean, I'm guessing the prices were a little.

Yeah, I like it. They're kind of fluctuated, like

TXR was the cheapest, then it went, then it went my research, then it went XR. And then it went CRX, then it

went MR2, then it went Prelude. Yeah.

So. Makes sense.

So that was the order in which the prices were.

But these are these are naturally aspirated non turbo versions of their yeah of of their cars.

Absolutely. I think, I think for the, I

mean, the type of car the MR2 is, I think that's what I would have splurge tour. And yeah, I mean, I had really,

you know, fond memories in there in the EXO and the short stint that I had it but but it was about a year, I think.

Yeah, it was about a year. And I was a very poor student

and I believe it. It did a fuel pump and I

couldn't afford to replace it at the time.

And I gave it away for basically nothing.

Like it was under 1000 bucks. I sold it for anyway.

I know I've tried to probably. 1 is so if you if it's just been

sitting in the yard for the last four years.

Oh, God, that's not what I want to eat.

Yeah, maybe one. Yeah.

No, I think MRT is going to be the the pick for me.

The pick then and now and now. Yeah.

And it's still now, yeah, I would.

I would definitely pick that over like, I think it's a close second would be the CRX, yeah, just because it's like the perfect hot hatch, Yeah, from that era.

But yeah, I think MR2 would still be the pick, which is how special it is, yeah. Cool, David, you were next

there. You try me in.

So I was married in 85 so there was not a snowflake's chance I would have been allowed to get A2 seater car.

So I would have been getting a TX3I, particularly in the French racing blue, which is really, really fine these days, but they looked amazing. A a a friend one of the guys

cats talked with back then had one and I always, always admire.

I love the the alloys on them. I love the interior viewer in

them. And yeah, in that, that colour

just really pops with the sort of red highlights and stuff.

So would have been at TX 3. Now I would it's a really hard

call between the Prelude and the CRX.

They were both such good cars for the from the 80s.

I mean, Honda were at the absolute peak of their engineering and they were developmental prowess.

There's so much of a lot of F1 technology had already filtered down. I've drove them both when they

were new and I, I've drove a Prelude, very, very fast ones and took it to the Grand Prix in 80, the end of 88 and it was about a week old. Oh my goodness, it was good.

Actually, the guy that owned it is the guy I'm in Japan with.

We're still made. I thrashed.

His car? Yeah, still.

Friends. Still friends, still friends.

And yeah, that that was, that was a stunning, remarkable car.

And they were really something special when they were new.

But now, like, thankfully they've held their value and, and, and, and there's a lot of interest in them now.

They're sort of going up in value.

CRX, that was just a cracker of a little car.

It was so beautifully balanced in that little eggy little twin Cam engine. I, my son's got a first Gen CRX,

which were never sold here, the Beloit Sport.

But the second Gen to my eyes was a much prettier little car, much more, much more cohesive in the design.

The CRX completely different dash to the, to the Civic it was based on. So it was all angle towards the

driver, the console sort of angle towards the driver.

And yeah, to find a nice original one of those, they're as rare as rare now because they've all been through 16 different P played owners who want to personalise their car.

Yeah, but a really nice original one of those would be a lovely car to have. Which is the pick is the

question. Good on.

Yeah, probably Prelude. I'll probably go for this to

prelude. Always to prelude.

All right. So you got probably now back

then TX three IX. Three.

Yeah, lovely. Robin, Harley, what would you

guys have taken back then? Harley.

I don't know. Well, I'll go, I reckon.

CRX then and CRX now. OK, Yeah.

Yeah, CRX, I have to choose. CRX back then as well, Holly.

Yeah, probably. Why the CRX back then, Rob?

Like did you drive one when they were?

Doing or a beating. I didn't drive one, beating one.

Just like the look of them, just like everything about them.

I think they were a bit expensive at the time.

Yeah. But that's why I still never

really got one. I was even looking at a pulse,

extra turbo, yeah, other stuff like that and end up getting a Corolla. I don't know why yeah, so, but

yeah, I just I think everything about them they just look real Tokyo Drift stuff. Hey or.

Something like. That.

Scotty. Yeah, I'm CRX all the way.

Both. Yeah, both.

Yeah. I mean if I if I could get one

now that would be. Sweet.

Did was this generation had the little the window at at the back or was that the Yeah. Yes, that's.

The one, yeah, Second, Yeah. The first gem to sell in

Australia was the first one you think of, basically.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just love the little designs

and things. I just Honda were just on it at

that time. As you were saying, David, with

everything, I would stay with the time and go with really nice, the aero style rims as well around there to go with it, to match it. I think that would be sublime,

yeah. That'll be really cool.

Have you ever? Guys, ever heard of Jackson

Racing? Jackson Racing.

No, I haven't. Oh OK, Astoria, Honda and

Bentley with the Jackson Racing Agent in for at least for Victoria, if not Australia. That was an American customising

firm and they delivered a whole range of suspension and go faster bits, but a huge range of alloys.

And there are a couple of legend coups getting around with body kits on them. I don't know if you've ever seen

them advertised. You're popped up recently.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So they're a Jackson Racing body kit and yeah, they were offered through Astoria, Honduran Bentley with sort of *5 spoke * alloys and stuff like that, and occasionally see them around.

They're pretty rare now. That's the kind of God.

Sadly, we've actually got a member in the club who has the CRX he bought new from Blair, still in 88 with the Jackson Racing wheels on it. That's incredible. 16 inch 5

spoke wheels. I'll try and find a photo and

send it through to the chat. Hey, they're not those wheels

that have like an insert, like a coloured insert or something, is that it's not them, is it? No, no, they're like just A5,

like a five star, almost like a Star of David, but sort of 55 spokes instead of 6 and the nuts are covered in the centre with a centre cap. OK, interesting.

I'm looking at, I'm trying to look them up.

Those ones. Yeah, yeah, I've seen those

before. I know that.

Yeah. Yeah.

Those are muking meals. What do they mean?

Yeah. OK.

Yeah. You'll have to send through a

photo, David. I'll, I think, I think I know

where I've got a photo actually, but I'll, I'm not going to try and do it now because I'll disconnect myself.

Well, what are you taking, Maddie?

I mean, I own the one I would have taken, but so if I'm not, if I'm not, if I'm not going to pick that one, I'm going to pick something else this time around. I like a hatch so I probably

would have bought a CRX then and I but I like pop ups now more than anything so I would have go probably.

Oh it's too brilliant out of the pop ups.

Yeah, just because, Just because pop ups.

Yeah, it's because Pop. UPS, that's fair.

So I would I'd have one of those now it's a bit more of a that.

Makes perfect sense. Yeah, CRX.

Well, my youth touching aside, but I'm now in my 30s.

So says the guy that bought a fierce star.

Yeah. But.

Yeah, bright green. In bright green, yeah.

Nobody lets me forget anything. You bought a green car,

Stephanie keeps saying. Oh, you bought a Mazda 2?

I'm like, you know? I bet that kills you when she.

Says dude, she says yeah, she said it to me when I was pulling the covers off the car. She's like, it looks like a

Mazda 2O, like I started off. Oh.

Man at the dealership At the dealership.

But I but she's like, I'm going to say it because I just want to make you laugh. And I and I I peace was not

lying. Yeah.

But she's actually, she's like, it's a far nicer Carla colour than me. It is.

It is you. Bet it is.

But now she just sent me. Like if she sees like a Green

Man, you know, you know the green.

She was just saying the picture. She's like, I saw your car

again. I just sent the picture.

I'm. Glad it's an ongoing joke.

It's been a joke since I've since I ordered the car, so I think that that joke will will remain for the rest of my life.

Next next one is luxury barges from the early or sorry, the early to mid and 1990s. Now we all like a luxury barge.

They're a beautiful thing when they work now the so the ones I've put in here, I've put one Japanese and two and probably the two most famous V12 powered Germans cars.

So the the Princess Diana 140 LS Sorry, LS that's that's the other one. 600 SCL. Yes, 600 SCL, that is correct.

So the long wheelbase, big luxury barge, the 750IL from from BMW, which is their V12, you know, kind of comparison and for for a bit of a span in the works, it's not as long, but arguably as as luxurious. The LS400 in its second

generation got well, the, the the facelift of the first of the first LS, which is all all around the same time.

What would you went for then? Or what would you went for now,

gentlemen? So which BMW 750 you're talking?

That'd be the E 38, E 38, correct?

Yes, E 38 that is. So that's the chunkiest squarer

1, isn't it? Correct.

Yeah, the first, the E 28, which was the 8080. 80.

Size. That was the second Gen 7

Series, yeah. So E 28, W 210 and a updated

first Gen LS400. Well, it was a bold move to to

buy the Lexus if you were shopping those two cars.

Probably not many many did, but I reckon I would have gone the Lexus. I didn't did.

I thought that the WRM 40 was a bit frumpy after the 126.

Yeah. Never the look of them, The six.

They always looked like an over, like a kind of an overweight A124. The proportions just were never

as nice as a 124. Yeah, I.

Know and again it was a lot to do with offset of the wheels too. The wheels look too small on it.

Yeah, I think. And that was, I mean easily

fixed. But the factory should have

fixed it. Shouldn't need it.

Shouldn't have needed fixing. But I'm actually, I love an

LS400, so I'd have one then and I'd still have 1:00 today, yeah.

I look at the time when they were new I and I know and how unreliable they would be I would have gone the a 38 all day yeah OK, I feel like that is one of the best looking large it's a big salons and the proportions are very cool on there like they're they just it fits really well the headlight length and all that that's right they've. Got their length.

The 1:40 is cool, but it is weird looking.

It is just like it just the proportion.

What I what gets me with the 1:40 is the rear garnish, the the the headplan garnish on the back.

I really like that yeah, that's I'm a big sucker for that sort of thing on a car. But apart from that, there's

there's not much in it to be honest.

But so I would have gone the E 20, the E 38750 Li back then and now I would go for the LS400 just because we know how how well they've, how well they were built and how still today like they're just an unbelievably reliable they.

Are they're a good thing? Yeah.

I was going to put the V8 optioned ones in there, but, you know, I knew you guys were probably going to say V8L, you know, we'll go, we'll go to Lexus.

That's why I put the V12, to give them a bit more of a chance. Yeah, absolutely.

What about you, Rob? What would you have taken back

then? You're you're a Mercedes guy.

Yeah. And I really liked him.

Could never attain one. But my dad had a 735I the

earlier generation and I drove that and it was a great car to drive, but everything broke on it back then, back in the 90s.

That was a sort of a late 80 model car, that one that he had.

Jeez, I think Mercedes back then, Alexis now, OK.

Yeah, interesting. And how are you the same thing?

I'll get the Mercedes now for some make it sound like a Pagani. Right Part B12 have you seen?

What they're doing in Japan with those, like they, it's like a $10,000 exhaust. I mean, they sound like a

Pagani. That's ridiculous.

It's. On it, and we need full exhaust

to make it sound like a Pagani's on the mine now, Harley.

All right, Mercedes is then and now.

Scotty. Mine would be Mercedes then

because it's I just would want to show off and I think that is the car to show off in back then.

It's big pimping, isn't it, That car like like.

Yeah. Lexus was expensive and things,

you know, more reliable, but not really something to show off in.

Yeah, you know, it was still a little bit niche.

People like, oh, Lexus, you'd go to Mercedes.

Mercedes were pretty reliable and everything back then.

Everything went went well and now I'd be all over the Lexus.

That's pretty unanimous. My taste.

My taste has matured. You're a Twitter guide.

Yeah, now due to my father instilling in me from a very young age, Mercedes 600, best car ever.

So, Chad, you met my dad on the. Vacation I met you dad.

I could 100% imagine him saying that.

Back in back in the home country, he actually drove a grosser. Oh.

Geez, for these for these rich guys he used to tell me stories about all time. Wow, best car.

I won best car. I won AAA quality like he is he

he used to tell me stories about driving that car.

So he drove a for it. He's he's rich boss who who had

one And this was like a dictator's car like like Hussein had one of these and he would always make reference like Saddam had one. My boss had one.

Yeah, that's. That's how cool my boss is,

yeah. He's like everything was, was.

Ballproof and it. Was like, I hate to work on one

now and I remember seeing Jeremy, Jeremy Clarkson because he had one and he had a bill of like was it like 30 grand or something or like something something 30,000 lbs of repairs he had to do to watch just because everything.

Everything run from hydraulic lines.

Correct. Yeah, even.

Even everything. All the self levelling.

Not only that, the power windows, the door locks.

That's all pneumatic. Was all pneumatic on these that

were hydraulic? What?

Yeah, everything's hydraulic in it.

Yeah, it's that sucks. It's insane.

Over engineered to the absolute Max, Yeah.

Yeah, but like, I mean, just as a kid, my dad would be saying nothing's better, nothing's better.

That's the best car. I'm probably.

He's probably right. Yeah, to be honest with you.

When they work. When they work, yeah, yeah,

exactly right. And they're worth big money now

a 600 like, you know, a proper one.

But, you know, even when the one 40s came out, you know, like every time my dad would say 1 and and we'd rock up the church and then like the rich family would have, you know, have a have a have a big and it wouldn't be a 600, but it'd be a be a big, big girl SL. So SEL would be like, well,

that's a, you know. Yeah.

My dad was like, no, that's a car.

And it as we'd be getting out of XF with the door handles not working. So, you know, it was one of

those cars that I think just had this, I had this pull not because of its size, because it's it's a huge car.

It's. A certain gravitational.

But yeah, it's just, I think it had a, it had like a, it had an effect on me as as a kid and like Princess Di stuff aside, like I, I, I'm not a fan of the way they look, but they're just menacing in, in, in a way that that a lot of cars aren't, if that kind of makes sense. Like they're like, they're just,

they're just so big and, and bulky and.

They're so over engineered too, like the weight in every part of that curved component, the glass, the door, the the weight of any component. You try and take seats out out

of them or door trims off them or something.

You know that everything's over engineered and and heavy.

When I drove Bunting's one, he had a he had a six cylinder 1, didn't he? Yeah. 300 SESESEL Yeah, I'm over

driving that and I drove that actually back to back with his or probably like like a weak difference between his W 220 and and the 220 was lovely and there was a really nice example locating an example. But the there was something

about the the 210 there's the way it drove was just he just felt like like you felt like invincible like like you were in a tank. The door that's the the the the

shut of the door and the thickness of the glass was like double walled. It was like quite a few that

thick and it felt like it was like the IT was peak, you know, final peak Mercedes kind of esque that era of of their cars before they went heavy. It's safe.

Yeah, yeah. So like I felt like, I mean, and

you know, I I would, I'm going to say Mercedes then I'm I probably as much as I love ALS 400, it's one of my all time favourite cars. If I got pulled, you know, the

chance to get like a like a, you know, an SEL just just to own it for a week because I wouldn't be able to afford to fuel it.

I would. I would take, I would take that

chance. I think I'd still probably do it

now just just for that. Yeah.

Well, it was. It just gave me a feeling of

just invincibility and like Big Pimpin and like you were somebody if you had an S Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you were somebody if you had if you had an S class.

So and it's just something that the new S classes just don't evoke. Like they don't have that.

They don't have that presence there.

They're like, they just, they're just, they just, they're kind of like a shadow of themselves. And yeah.

And a 140 was that last big chance to have a, you know.

Even the 126 had had that presence, you know, like like like a 126. And Rob, you've had a few 1-2

sixes. I think your dad's had a 126.

One sixes, 1-2 sixes. Yeah, we've had a few.

And like, they kind of felt like, they felt like old money, you know, I mean, like they felt they felt, they felt like a tank. Yeah.

And you know, that's just, you don't get that in, in their newer stuff, which is which is a shame.

So, yeah, I'll probably, they'll probably take the unsavoury opinion and go Merck then Merck now.

Oh Yep, I mean work to own for like 6 months and then I'd sell it for an LS400. The last one before we get to

the car quiz gentlemen, now you are picturing yourself in the 90s to early 2000s and you are a sales Rep.

OK. But you're you've only got mid

size options, so you can't go for the full big size Falcons, Commodores, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.

No so. So they've given you a few

options here. As I've said, we can make you

like a Mondeo man in the UK and put you in a Mondeo.

We can put you in a Holden Vectra, we can put you in a in a Toyota Camry, or we can put you in a Mazda 626.

All of them dreary, dreary cars, but you've got to choose one Where so. Give us a year.

Give us a year. I'm going to say 98.

Oh, OK, yeah. 98 So so you're getting first like early vectors

here, like though they've been out for a while.

Mondeo was pretty much I think at its end all for its first run or a couple years away from its first end of its first run here.

Camry would be the I went off to the wide body, the I forgot the name of that that actual model. Yeah, SV something.

Yeah, 21. 21 No, it's it's it's too after that one.

I'll have to double check that for y'all I mean.

The the the big tail like garnish one, Yeah, yes.

You and your garnish as chess. Where's Andrew Rigglesworth when

you need? Him where where is he when we

need him? Hang on.

He'd be screaming at he's got one He'd be screaming, he'd be screaming at the at the, the, the radio right now.

But it is the. XV20.

XV20. That's it.

XV, 20. Oh God.

XV. XV, 20, Camry and the last one

is the Mazda 626 in the GE generation.

I believe it's called 626. Turbo Option No.

Damn, it was the last one they did from 97 to 2002.

So all mid size dreary kind of nothingness.

But you haven't, you got to pick one because that's what you, that's what your boss wanted to put you in because he didn't want to put you in in a, in a fair lane or, or anything like that because it was too big. And, and, and you weren't, you

weren't sales executive. You would just, you would just

say sales associate. Yeah, you're, you're a Rep,

you're a sales Rep. So, and, and all, all of these

options, you can, you can have them with a waggon as well.

So bear that in mind. So you could have got them as a

waggon to, to fit all your, all your Tupperware.

If you're selling Tupperware or all your, you know, your, your, your, your slabs of what you know, masonry to, to show around. So they, they all and the reason

why I chose all those because they were all available as a waggon as well. So you could have had the sedan

or the waggon version of them. What are you picking, gentlemen?

Easy. We're talking 4 cylinders here.

We're not talking the V sixes or anything.

We're talking. About Oh damn, I thought I could

sneak in with AV enter. Because they all had except 66

in Australia, all had for that generation, all had V6 options.

But we're going 4 cylinders because the the boss didn't want to stretch stretch to that point.

Yeah, OK. Can I go 4 cylinder Camry

Conquest waggon? Conquest Waggon, Yeah, you can

do that. Can I update to the airbag in

IBS package? Because you know, I'm on the

road today. I think you deserve it.

I think I deserve it. I think you, if you care for

your staff, you'll upgrade them to the safety back at the risk of offending all the Ford and the GM fans.

I think the Mondeos were. No, I actually by then I was.

When you say Monday, I thought of the first one, but you're probably the second Genachi. The squarer one.

Yeah. Still vile.

Yeah. No, I wouldn't have one of

those. Not a not a great guy.

No, no, no, good old Camry. Camry Yep, I can't persuade you

with AGM product from a Vectra. Nope, no vile too.

And you know what? They all smelt funny.

They did all of all of those euro built Holdens at that time, whether you're talking Barinas or.

Astrus they smell like astrayons or something.

The. Crayons.

Yeah, they. Do.

Oh, that I. Don't know.

Oh, yeah, That waxy sort of crayon smell.

I think you're right. I think that's sort of is, yeah.

It's, it's sitting with the plastic or the release agent out of the mould of the, you know, injection moulded dashes and stuff like that. But they all smell weird.

Yeah. My mate had a had an Astro.

You've been on the show, Adam. He had an Astro 2.2 Sri.

He had that for probably 15-O, not 15.

He's probably 10 years, actually.

Wow, that's a long time. Keep that car.

Yeah, had it from 50,000 to 250. 1000.

He was a he used to drive around all day for work, you know, Jeez, from the moment he drove it, from the first time he brought it up to my house to the moment he sold it, it still smelled the same. Yeah, but like you have like 4

different bloody air fresheners and he's like, he's like, there's no getting to get. It out.

It's just it's just injected in that car.

So weird. Can't persuade you with a 626,

David Prince. No, I don't think so.

Thank you for the offer, but no, no, I'll stick with the Camry.

Camry, Rob and Harley, what are you guys going with?

Look, because I have to hand the car back and I want the car to depreciate a lot so the boss, you know, can cop the depreciation. I'll go for Holden just for the

just, you know, in spite. In spite to piss the boss off.

I like it. What would you go now, Camry?

Camry. Holly.

Yeah, you get a Camry. Both.

Yeah. OK, very easy.

He's can we both, Scotty? 626.

Oh, OK, back then. Yeah, back then, because I had a

few options there, I'd be asking if I could get maybe the luxury version than just the target or I, I well, no, I think it was 1999. They had a 40th anniversary

edition too. Oh.

That's hot. So maybe.

As hot as the dreary gets. Yeah, he could stretch for that.

And I can say, hey, I've got a Mazda 6 O 640th anniversary addiction. Actually, I'm pretty spish.

Would you take the 66 now? Nah, I'd probably.

Just take the Camry out. Because it'll still be going.

Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't have any dramas.

I've. Passed.

I'm just not doing. Combined.

I want to start, I want to stop putting Toyotas and Hondas in any of these listings. And then we just got to make it

real hard for you guys. You got to have.

Yeah, it's even harder. Chad, that would be interesting.

Look, I'm going to go really against the grain and say I quite like the design of the Vectra.

So did I, actually. Yeah, there's some bits of it

like the the triangle tail lights and the moulded mirrors that mould into the bonnet. I love it.

Yeah, a weird looking and I was talking to a friend about it this week and he laughed at me. Fair enough.

But yeah, I would take the Vectra then, but I would take the camera out because I mean, everything else is really.

Yeah, I mean, it's the only, it's the only one that stood the test of time edible. Yeah, yeah.

And you know, that one's gonna be fine.

And the bands are probably actually the most.

There's a lot of those getting around.

Yeah. Oh, God, the Mondeo.

Yeah. I don't think I'm, I, I can't

remember the last time I saw a Mondeo.

Yeah. Of that Gen So.

Yeah. So.

I know a guy that had an ST24 one on one of those.

No, that's hot. So yeah, it is hot.

It was like the hottest manual, you know, 2 point 2.5.

But yeah, it got it got hell damaged and then it got ridden off and he was never saw it again.

He bought that new two. He was devastated.

He loved that car. But I probably would go I

probably would have been boring because it's it was just appliance motoring. I would have been the Camry then

and I probably would be the camera now.

But but I I'm I'm with you, Chad.

I like the vectors the. Vectory, yeah.

People call it dreary. I thought it was quite clever.

Yeah, hideously unreliable, but. Terrible the 2.22. .2 was a

shocking guy, not the engine, but their V6 would were not much better either. Yeah, yeah, but it got.

Yeah, I think they made the best out of what they could for that generation of design. Like it was pretty boring around

that time, but I think they they they add little spicy bits to it to make it kind of cool. A guy that used to live down the

street from us had one since nursery.

He bought one of those manual Vectra 2.6 because I did 2.5 and

a 2.6 because totally weird things.

Manual one of those and after like 120,000 KS the month, the money blew up and it it, it, it just ran out of it quite literally ran out of compression.

So wow. So he and I'm, I'm and then he

was telling me because like he was selling the car.

I'm like, oh, he's selling the victory.

So he's like, yeah, I've just spent all this money on it.

I want to get rid of it. I'm like, what did you do?

It's like I rebuilt the motor. He spent close to 6 or 7 grand

back then. And this is basically, you know,

this is when I was in high school, probably a year 11, I reckon. And he had gotten a Ford

Territory, which he had put 250,000 KS on.

And he was selling that. He was selling both these cars

because he was moving into state and he was, he was selling everything. And he was selling the Vectra

for $1000. And I was like, Oh yeah, I'll

give you $1000 for it. And he's like, I wouldn't sell

it to you even if you gave me $10,000.

It's like this is the most unreliable car I've ever owned.

Yeah, that's wild. So, so yeah, he ended up getting

rid of that. But yeah, I think I'm coming all

the way that is. Sorry, you just can't go wrong

with it. Can't go wrong, General.

I think it's time for the quiz. So you know the you know the

rules. 10 questions plus some bonus questions.

Now I've got the questions on my phone so Chad can't say.

So you can't say there's any collusion and stuff.

Well, albums on here. There's no album, so there's no

collusion. That's right.

Anyway. There's no shenanigans.

So Robin Harley worked together as the Dynamic Duo, Scotty got Chad and we've got David. So David's excuses if he loses

are going to be like, my internet's a bit slow from Japan, so. I think you have the best

connection. You have a better connection

than we do. We do.

Yeah, that's surprising. It's not good that he'll be

answering questions before I even finish the question.

That's what I would try to do, doesn't.

He Yeah, All right, some we got some 10 questions plus some bonus questions. Question number one, What Car

replaced the Nissan XR here in Australia?

Chad. Chad.

Nissan NX Nissan NX is. Correct, Chad.

Well done. Yes.

Bonus question, which pop star had one on stage painted in pink in Australia? She had a Nissan NX sheet giving

you a hint there. Had Nissan NX painted in pink in

Australia. Only one painted in pink.

Scott. Scott.

Kylie Minogue. Kylie Minogue is correct.

Wow, well done. I like those cars.

Yeah, they're they're funny cool car T top Yeah of.

Course so so apparently he got sold off for like a charity auction or something. Oh right.

But yeah, it was it was definitely used for that.

The Toyota Belter Vios and I had to charade from 2011 to 2013 is more widely known as the what elsewhere.

So the Belter, the Vios, which is names for the and it's it's what? That's the Toyota names.

Yeah, these are Toyota names and known well, he knows the Toyota.

What? So these are other names for

this car. So what was the Daihatsu 1 you

said? Charade from from 2011 to 2013.

It was it was this car was called the Charade in certain markets. Oh yeah.

It's known as the Vios, known as the Belta, and known as the What. What market is that in?

They called the Daihatsu Charade in Europe at one point from 2011 to 2013. David.

David. Do you want the?

Other Dohetsu name, the Toyota name.

Was it Paso pianableso OK? Chad.

Chad wasn't the Yaris was it was the Yaris.

Oh no, it. Is the Yep.

The Yaris has had a few names echo as as Rob seems to now.

Owner, owner, owner. Yeah, squad check.

Chad's on fire too and Scotty won.

Robin, Rob, Harley and David get the score.

Question #3 In what year did the F6 Typhoon by FPV originally come out got? 2005.

Incorrect. That's.

What I want to guess. David, David, 2006.

Incorrect there. You go, boys.

I'm pretty sure we're on one off SO 2. 1004.

It is correct. Rob, 2000.

And yeah, 1:00. Off after they came out.

Yeah, it was so 02 BA 03/03 with the BA GT and in BA mark two on oh, early 04, mid to mid to early 04 brought in with it towards the end of the year. The F6 iPhone question #4 The

holder Beretta Cabrio from the 90s hot car was made in Spain.

Hola. Hola, Who was it that converted

to a cabrio? Oh, Chad.

Chad. The.

Bertoni. Incorrect.

David. David.

Was it Carmen? Incorrect.

Was it a European model house? I'm not saying anything.

I'm not saying nothing. I'm going to go totally opposite

HSV. You're absolutely right, Robbie.

What? Really.

Were they done locally? They were done locally all.

Of them were done locally. They so Europe never got this

except for like 3 cars or something like like that.

It was it was not over there as a concept, but we were selling them here for you for for a while.

So yeah. So that's a bit of trivial

voice. The Marina Cabrera was sold, was

built in Spain, sent here, had the roof chopped by HSV in Clayton and then sold. And that was the.

First jam Barina. Well, the third.

Second Gen. European Barina, we got here.

The rounded 1. Yeah, the rounder really

rounded. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just. The first Barina's based on

Swift. Swift.

Yeah, Swift. Yeah, you're right.

So these ones were the Corsa based ones or?

Yeah, yeah. Wow, bonus question, how many

was sold? I'll give closest to can you?

Have them on one hand, yeah. A bit more than one hand.

The reason why I'm bringing this up because I saw one the other day and I'm like, Oh my God. Obviously one of these in

forever. Cabrio, too.

Cabrio, Marina Cabrio. I was like, I was like, I want

to do my research into that. And then Scott.

Scott. I'm going to say 68. 68, says

Scotty. Oh no, it's more than that. 250.

250, says Chad. I'll go 360. 360, says Rob.

I'll. Go 400. 400, says David Prince.

You're closest, David. They made 581 of them.

Wow. Too many.

Too, too many. But they also started for quite

a while too. They started like for like 4

years or five years or something really.

Yeah, that's what happened when you cut the roof off 571 and you've got to keep them in stock till they're sold.

You can't put the roof back on it.

Putting it out there, I went on such a rabbit hole with this car that I went on, I went looking for prizes, how much they were going for, if there was any for sale.

I even found the original Holden dealer video that they showed their deals and how to sell it. So they were like it.

It's sold mainly to females from age in their 20s to 30s who who for a lifestyle. But yeah, really.

But let's not count out the guys that that want a, that want a funky little car too. So we're going to sell it to

them as well. Like, Oh my God, that's

incredible. I'll, I'll send the video in the

chat. It's it's, it's 16 minutes of

glory. Can I?

Can I? Can I get a bonus point if I can

say what it was called? What do you mean what it was

called? Didn't it have its own name?

The Barina cabrio. Oh no, I must be thinking of a

different one. I was thinking the Lambarda,

which was the Lambarda. They they did mention it in the

video. The lambada was I think they did

a limited run of white or some weird coloured ones or something weird. I've got to double check the

video. Let me double check that.

That's some good. Good.

There's some bizarre like questions, details.

I told you I went down a rabbit hole, man.

Like step Steph walked in me. What kind of what he ranges?

Question in your life, George, She caught.

Yeah, she caught you. Watch.

English question #5 The last generation of Mazda 66, which we've discussed tonight, had how many body styles on offer in Australia? David David 3. 3 is correct,

they had the waggon, the Hatch, and the sedan.

Question #6 This is a tight this is a tight quiz.

Rob, Chad and David are on 2A piece Scotty on one anyone's game at the halfway point. Question number six, the HSVW

427 had an engine size of what? In litres?

Harley. Harley 7 litres.

It was a 7 litre. Well done Harley.

Yeah, big engine. Big.

That was straight from the Corvette ZO6 I believe.

Question #7 The current Mustang 2.3 litre is no longer called

the High Performance 2.3 as in the last of the last generation.

What is it now called? Is it called the lame horse?

The lame horse is incorrect. David, Chad, Chad, is it just

called the Mustang EcoBoost? It is called the EcoBoost again.

So they they dropped the EcoBoost name for the high performance 2.3 and then now they've had the EcoBoost again,

which is. I just thought dark was lame

horse. I thought it was.

Lame. Hilarious.

There was a, there was a video that I just watched of someone with their EcoBoost Mustang and he's like revving it in.

There was a meet up and he's revver revvering it and then he stops and you just hear the the bearing slap.

Oh no. It was toast and someone someone

in the background goes Rev it again.

That that, that hurts to say. That hurts to say.

It was dead. Yeah, question #8 after the

Porsche 928, what was the next Porsche to feature AV 8?

Chad. Chad got now to you.

You got in there, Chad. The Porsche KN GT Yeah, I'll.

Give that to you, the Porsche KN was the next the next one to feature in V8. Or the first Gen KN just had the

VA Yeah, it was like not a special Yeah, correct.

Yeah. Yeah, not special.

That's great. Question #9 The Subaru Liberty

slash Legacy slash Outback featured in some markets a utility version. What was it called?

Chad. Subaru Baja.

Baja is absolutely correct. They featured.

AI promise there's no collusion. There is definitely no collusion

on fire, Judge on fire. Somebody put him out.

Somebody actually put him out. He's.

He's Rob's firefighting, Yeah, but.

Rob's firefighting, we've got to call Rob's firefighting right now. He's he is actually on fire.

The last one is a an advertisement question.

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dealer now. So it's an Australian made car?

OK, David. David Magnus Sports V6.

Incorrect. It says Commodore.

Incorrect, not 3 litres. That.

I. Made a three litre.

Engine displacements get me. Yeah, the six cylinder, didn't

they? 3 litres, 6 cylinders, 114

kilowatts of fuel injected power, front end, rear spoilers, LSD 2 tone. Oh, Scott.

Scott. R 31 Skyline.

I'll give you a .5 if you can give me the other .5.

Silhouette. Silhouette is correct.

Such an idiot, what am I thinking?

What are those? It.

All just kind of. What a.

Kind. It all just fell into place.

Something, yes, I'll be 30. Yeah, that's really there.

You go Aussie 6, it's an Aussie made car, yes, six, yeah.

That's why it threw me off at 1st and then all of a sudden I'm like jeez, you know, 6 cylinder baby.

Oh straight 6 sound like straight 640 kilowatts.

I remember how much 2 tone mine's 2 tone.

They did make him with LSD, yes. Score check Scotty and David on

2, Rob and Harley on three and tonight's winner on five is Chad. Well done.

Rob's firefighter, can you please come to to Middle St in the Hadfield to put him out? He's he's on fire.

I'm going to ask you this question, Chad, anyone you want to? Thank, it's just a bit of Scotty

and myself. And yourself?

Yeah, very good. Good stuff.

Can we all buy Brina Cabrio's? Yeah, I mean, I feel like

there's a new wave happening. I'm going to put tonight when I

get home, I'm going to find the video I see like it's like the the video they gave to the dealers and how to sell.

The that's incredible. I'm I'm I'm amazed that you

found that. Then from the I went down a

rabbit hole. I went on a rabbit hole.

So this guy is upload, it's called Brockaholic.

Shout out to you on YouTube. You're a star because he's

uploaded all dealer videos from Holden.

Wow. Like from VLS and, and even

earlier all the way to like he's uploading him slowly, slowly, slowly. So like, and there's like the

funniest dealer comparison. So like, for example, these guys

like, you know, comparing all the, the 4G Li and the, and the Commodore exec and, you know, we had to tell our dealers we're doing better in these, in these criteria.

Would you, would you want to solve?

You know, there were a battle, you know, like it was, it was really, really good to watch. It makes you.

It's all the internal ones, right?

Internal videos, yeah. Yeah, wow.

Like, and that's what's surprising.

And you see on some of the videos not to be distributed and they're like this guy just uploading them on on YouTube.

It's brilliant. Yeah, that's what you can before

holding. Before they.

Yeah. Before AC Delco choose to take

them down. Copyright.

It really good, really good viewing.

Actually, I've, I've spent a few hours on the weekend watching this and I'm like this, this is, this is my life now.

This is. Incredible.

Yeah, Stephanie's definitely choosing.

I don't know why, why she's she's she thinks I'm crazy because I'm not clear. But anyway, that's a podcast,

gentlemen, let's do some plugs. Rob's wife fighting,

Electrical's neighbour punching on with.

No, no, it's. Been pretty good.

I'm going to have to change it all that now because it's been very quiet since I haven't done any work on any cars for the last year or two. Well, I've got a bumper I can

bring around here. Let's start I've.

Got a whole car I can be. Fly that up as well.

Yeah, if you need any, Rob's doing it as we as we've discussed Scooty's golf tip of the week.

So I got one that I was actually learning, which which makes a lot of sense, is just how hard or near impossible is it to actually hit a golf ball dead straight?

To. Hit that one thing, it's a

circle, which normally is not going to go straight anyway.

And to hit it right, well, guess what?

Pros don't even hit them straight.

There you go. Wow.

They usually try and aim to hit a fade so you can hit it out so it kind of goes to the right and hooks in to the left because it's more predictable you can do that.

So you're saying straight on like the X axis?

Yeah, not you'd like just a direct in One Direction.

In the middle, yeah. Yeah.

You want to hit it with a draw or a fade or something, so try and set up your stances for that because it's something that's more predictable than you being able to hit a golf ball dead straight because it's when you're going to start hooking and slicing. So I'm going to start giving

that a go and I'll let you know absolutely get back out there because it is, it's hard to hit that straight if you're trying to hit it straight and then you'll start hitting it to the right and then you try and go, oh, I'm hitting it to the right.

So then you start moving to the left more and then all of a sudden before you know it, you're hitting it straight again. So go to the right direction.

So if you're playing to a certain shot and if you notice, because I was watching the Masters and that too, they all hit it with a bit of a fade where it kind of goes out and it curves in nicely. So.

Is that from the Golf Club they use particularly or is that like a, you know, it's just that's the the way they they get under the ball. In their stance.

Before they it's OK. Yeah.

And the way they position their shoulders to get it to do that.

So yeah, it was really interesting watching the Masters and, you know, seeing them all do that and just how the traditional swing is non existent anymore.

You know, you've got the top players that have got some strange looking swings, but it works.

On on that isn't there a new Happy Gilmore movie coming out there? Is yeah, lots of that big way.

It's in June or July. I think it comes in.

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, should be good. Chad's delivering it, Yeah,

they'll be to a place in the year.

Yeah, I'll deliver it. You order it.

And and David's, we should, we should, we should say your, your, your tourism company. I think so.

Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, David's Japan Trips DJT.

I want to make you a logo DJT. DJT.

You know, if you need a if you need a planner for for for just trips, just trips to Japan, David Prince is your man.

So, well that right, that was. Good.

Wow. Yeah, that was true.

You're doing it on the fly mate. You see a nice car in the house.

Can you pin that spot on the map?

Yeah. Guys, all of us back there.

You can. See the in cars.

Good idea, good idea. Let's work on that We've.

Got to go back and get that SEC. Yeah, yeah.

I I I nearly drove off the road when I saw it but it was a very windy Rd so I was lucky I didn't but I know where it is.

Yeah, you see the most random cars in like rundown old village and you see RX7 sitting near 1 of the all hot enough not hitting it. Yeah, like it's crazy.

Absolutely. The last one I took before I

came on the podcast, I was walking up the street and I made it mine. Benny Musu is a mad Fiat nut and

Alfa Romeo And there's there's a left hook Fiat Panda like about a 25 wow, 25 year old Fiat Panda left hand drive just parked in the in the parking area around the corner from the hotel.

It's like I just sent it to him and his eyes just popped out of his head. You know, like the fact it's

that old and it's still on the road in Japan too.

You know what's crazy though about you?

But like they've got they've got random stuff you wouldn't expect them to have. Like like when we were there,

David, I remember, I don't know if you were in the same car with me, but I saw a guy dropping in like the last Gen Focus Rs.

I'm like, what the hell? Like hell.

It made no sense. I was like, you know?

You're in the land of like. Japanese.

So many cool cars and you just end up with that Focus Rs.

What exactly? Well.

It wasn't that long ago in the auctions over there, Ave Commodore popped up. Really.

Yeah. That must be like an expert,

right? Like someone's imported their

car from here. You say that, but they love

HSVS. That's crazy.

Like there's, there's like a HSV club over there, but it's like, and they're all Japanese guys. Like people got VZ clubies, GDS.

It's it's nuts. I watched, I watched a video on

it and there's like a there's a few Facebook posts like, yeah, Japanese. Well, we like, we like these

cars. Like what?

So I guess we're not alone in like other cars that like forbidden fruit that you can't. Yeah, yeah, I suppose.

You so you know it's. Just as wacky as someone in

Australia importing K cars. Really.

Yeah. And what's that go with left

hand? Drive, Yeah.

What's go with left hand drive cars over there, David?

You see a lot of left hand drive cars.

Absolutely. Well, yeah, a lot of European

stuff because it was a status symbol.

OK, Yeah, yeah, So American and European stuff and, and it wasn't that long ago and you still might be outgoing.

I haven't gone and ordered a new Porsche in in Japan previously recently, but but up until recently, I think you could choose whether you want it left hand drive or right hand drive.

Yeah, so cool. Well, the G waggons are

virtually left hand drive. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, there was AI pulled. I was like the other day I had a

993 pulled up next to me. It was a left hook.

OK, right here, 9997. Sorry, 997.

So I mean, it was, you know, not an old car.

We. Actually could have chosen a

right hand right hook car but yeah they just go left.

Why not? And express, once you've got the

actual toll booths on both sides, you can go from left or right hand drive. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's. Crazy.

So cool. I must go up an economy hockey

with my name on it. Oh, Mr Douglas, we'll see you

when you get back. Excellent.

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Underscore Car Talk podcast. Chad, where can I find you?

Kegelis one on. Instagram Rob yeah, Rob's FM

that they he's he's the man. Any questions give us a yell

there. That's I think that's a podcast,

gents. Good to see all you guys and

what's all by Barina Cabrio's and and questionnaire self worth. I'll speak to you guys next

time. Tacky.

Awesome. Yeah.

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