01:53
Hey everyone, welcome to the EV show by Ludacris Feed Live.
02:03
Thanks so much for joining us.
02:04
Today is Wednesday the 15th of October, almost at 1995.
02:08
No, this is 2025, 30 years later.
02:12
Thanks for joining us.
02:13
It should be a good night.
02:14
Lots of chat about.
02:15
Hope you missed us.
02:16
We missed you guys.
02:17
Lots of chat about in the last three weeks we've been away.
02:21
Lots of people already on the stream.
02:22
Thanks so much for joining us, guys and girls.
02:24
So good of you to join us this Wednesday night.
02:26
If you're watching us on replay, make sure you leave a comment.
02:30
And if you're listening to some audio podcast, g'day.
02:33
Thanks for tuning in.
02:34
And if you're watching us live, hello, make sure you leave a comment.
02:37
Tell us where you're from.
02:38
Tell us how the weather's like.
02:40
What are you driving?
02:41
Whatever it is, leave a comment.
02:42
Good to hear from you.
02:43
Let's thank our sponsors.
02:47
So let's thank you to Han Cook tyres, Driving Emotion.
02:50
They do Ion tyres that are EV specific.
02:54
And thank you also to our new sponsor, Power Shop.
02:56
For those who don't want wholesale pricing, you want constancy, reliability.
03:03
They've got EV plans as well for day and night usage.
03:06
And thank you also to Carloop, Dada to empower Australia's EV revolution.
03:11
Speaking of Carloop, let's welcome our co-host.
03:14
As always this evening, Mr. Riz Akhtar himself, Mr. Bonza.
03:20
Tom, good to be on.
03:22
I know you've been flying.
03:26
Obviously you're traveling with Singapore Airlines and a whole lot of, you know, let's say up
03:33
I'm still with Bonza, supporting them through and through.
03:36
I mean, the Bonza lounge at Melbourne Airport.
03:39
Riz, Singapore Airlines, premium economy versus Bonza first class.
03:45
Let's be honest to you.
03:49
But yeah, that trip looked amazing.
03:51
Still will have more about it.
03:55
But it's always good to be back, of course, speaking to yourself.
03:57
And also our good friend, Roland, our regular guest as always.
04:00
Hey Roland, nice to see you.
04:04
I'll just take you off mute.
04:10
Hey Tom, how are you?
04:11
It's good to be back.
04:12
It's good to be back.
04:13
It's like a long two weeks.
04:14
It's always two weeks, Roland.
04:17
Everything's two weeks away.
04:20
And make sure you check out Roland's YouTube channel as well, Zapt.
04:23
Link in the video description as always.
04:25
Lots of good content there.
04:28
Yeah, it's been three weeks.
04:30
I think since we last chatted two weeks away for myself.
04:33
Roland's been on school holidays too, I'm sure, with his kids.
04:36
And Riz living the high life, of course.
04:38
Traveling around as always.
04:42
Scott's asked whether Riz is doing Uber.
04:46
Riz gets driven around.
04:50
If you do see a purple Rolls Royce Spectre,
04:53
an Uber app, then book it in.
04:56
We'll make it happen with the umbrella complimentary included if it's raining.
05:04
If you happen to catch Riz in the Spectre, get his card.
05:06
You know, you want that card all the time.
05:09
Hey, thanks for joining us.
05:14
Nice to see you as well.
05:17
It's been a long time since the last live.
05:20
Hello, Tazzy Eevee.
05:22
Good to see all the regular names on the channel.
05:31
Nice to see you as well.
05:32
And lots of people missing us too.
05:33
That's good to hear.
05:36
Well, let's kick off with tonight's show.
05:39
And we've got a couple of Eevee shows I just want to promote real quick.
05:43
So this first one is, of course, the one coming up in Sydney,
05:47
the Sydney International Eevee Motor Show.
05:50
And we had some free tickets being given away using my coupon code.
05:55
I don't know how many there's left.
05:56
We were given 200 per day.
05:58
So check out one of my posts earlier this month.
06:01
I think it was last month, actually.
06:03
There may be still some.
06:05
But if there aren't any...
06:06
If you just check out the link in the video description below as well,
06:09
there is a bog off buy one, get one free offer for each of the days in Sydney.
06:12
So Friday 31st of October, November 1st and November 2nd, Saturday and Sunday.
06:16
So Riz and myself will be there.
06:18
I think Roland will be there as well.
06:19
So it should be good to chat about all things Eevee and renewables and everything in between.
06:24
So come and say hello if you're around.
06:27
Should be a good one.
06:28
And if you're not in Sydney, that's okay because in Melbourne,
06:31
there's also everything electric.
06:32
Doing their debut show in Melbourne should be good.
06:35
Riz and myself will be there, definitely.
06:37
And they're on the 14th to the 16th of November.
06:41
So Friday, Saturday and Sunday as well at the...
06:44
I think it's the showgrounds Riz and Flemington.
06:48
It is the showgrounds at Flemington there.
06:54
So that's two weeks later after the Sydney show.
06:56
So yeah, we're pretty sport here in New South Wales and Victoria
06:59
with lots of Eevee shows coming up.
07:03
Hopefully we'll go to Brisbane and the other capital cities too next year.
07:11
Now, of course, big news.
07:13
This week, Zika 7X, I think deliveries have started around Australia.
07:18
I see Roland on his YouTube channel.
07:20
He got a test drive as well recently and so did me and Joy in Sydney.
07:24
Roland, I think you agree it was a pretty good drive.
07:31
Suspension works well.
07:32
It does do 0-100 in 3.8 or 3.81.
07:36
I mean, very specific.
07:38
I have not made the video yet, but 3.81 on paper with one foot rollout subtracted.
07:45
So officially, if you go by how Tesla measures it, it's probably about 3.4.
07:50
So it is quicker than a Model Y performance.
07:55
That's super quick for a family SUV.
07:58
As I and as me and Riz discovered in the Adelaide as well recently,
08:00
I think can go like the clappers if given the chance for sure.
08:04
And as I said, deliveries.
08:12
Yeah, definitely fast.
08:13
And as I said, deliveries have started.
08:15
So this is what happened in Sydney today.
08:20
This is Sydney International Motorsport Park out at Eastern Creek in Western Sydney
08:25
and looks like the first seekers are ready to go for owners in Australia.
08:32
I suspect they're owners, are they?
08:33
Or are they part of the Zika team down there?
08:35
Might be part of the team, maybe.
08:38
Anyway, these are the first production seekers ready to go for owners.
08:42
So if you're watching, you got a Zika 7X on order, it's coming pretty soon, I think.
08:47
Let's do it one more time.
08:50
Now, while that's playing, I would like to add,
08:53
I happened to roam around the Sydney Motorsport Park with my runners on today.
08:58
And there were some very, very happy owners, including a couple of very keen viewers
09:05
and listeners of our show, the EV show here, who came up to me and said,
09:10
when I asked them, what spec did you order?
09:13
They said, Rollinspec, what else?
09:19
Now, rumor has it that the Rollinspec or the old drive is actually,
09:23
I think one of the most popular variants there is.
09:26
That's my understanding.
09:30
There's quite a lot of people have placed orders for those.
09:34
Surprisingly, from some of the stats shared today, the rear-wheel drive,
09:38
the entry-level one is sort of the least popular.
09:43
And people opting in for the bigger battery, longer range,
09:47
obviously with the all-wheel drive as well in the pop spec,
09:53
So, Rollins thing of handedly is, let's just say, inflating those
10:00
variant pop spec variant sales.
10:04
That's just what we do here.
10:06
Leap mode, we elevated the YouTube channel.
10:09
Now, we've got Zika 7X, just the pop variant.
10:12
And just looking in the car park before the delivery event,
10:19
quite a lot of that green colored vehicles, green, the blue
10:25
and the gray, very, very popular.
10:27
White appeared to be not so popular.
10:32
But I think Zika delivered about 50 odd vehicles today in Sydney
10:38
and over 100 families received their vehicles across Australia today.
10:45
Congratulations to the Zika team for delivering what they promised.
10:49
Cars by October, which is really good.
10:52
And I don't know whether they're sponsored by Shannon's
10:54
or there's a deal with Shannon's.
10:55
Why is that so prominent at the Sydney Motor Sport Park?
11:00
It's a free plug for Shannon's.
11:01
They're sitting on the billboard.
11:03
Anyway, congratulations to the Zika 7X owners.
11:06
You'll be very happy with it.
11:07
Tested on real roads as Roland did in Sydney.
11:10
And yeah, pretty happy.
11:11
And it can charge at a supercharger,
11:13
a Tesla supercharger as well.
11:16
But yeah, I think a couple of interesting things quickly just
11:20
before we wrap this up.
11:21
So we also learned today that they have now received
11:25
two and a half thousand pre-orders for the 7X.
11:31
And 74% of the people that have placed in order for a Zika 7X
11:41
currently is their first EV.
11:47
That's a really good stat, Riz.
11:50
I mean, Zika have done something right to convince them.
11:52
I know I've got a few colleagues actually in my workplace
11:54
that have ordered one just because it's so compelling,
11:57
especially the all-wheel drive version,
11:59
for less than $80,000 New South Wales drive away
12:02
with the introductory offer.
12:03
You can get a, as Roland said, 0 to 103.8 odd seconds.
12:07
That's a real test as well.
12:09
And it looks great.
12:10
Free colors, I think, at the moment, or it was before.
12:12
So that's probably why there's not many whites, right?
12:15
Might as well get a different color.
12:20
Yeah, Andrew says get a fair few upgrades.
12:23
For example, head up display with the long range
12:25
compared to the base model.
12:28
Donald says it's going to be a 20 lap Zika 7X race.
12:31
That'll be awesome.
12:33
A little sprint race.
12:36
Tony says needs a go-kart motor firm up.
12:39
Probably should be one.
12:40
It's off for update.
12:41
Andrew says my estimated delivery date tomorrow.
12:47
Cameron says getting 7X long range in two weeks.
12:50
Yeah, first DV as well.
12:51
Great to hear, Cam.
12:55
Matrix adaptive beam headlights cut from 7X.
12:59
I guess, look, some of the specs we don't get from China.
13:03
I think it probably helps reduce the cost in some ways.
13:07
Yeah, I think as product planners in these companies,
13:10
it's very difficult to get the price right,
13:14
which has got to attract enough buyers interested
13:17
to at least get into the dealership and test drive one
13:20
without scaring them away.
13:22
And I guess, if you include too much kit,
13:26
those matrix headlights could be one of the more expensive
13:30
But I mean, you never know.
13:32
It's always a compromise, unfortunately,
13:34
when they are selecting the lineup for a local market.
13:39
But yeah, I mean, having not really experienced
13:43
the Zika 7X headlights just yet at night,
13:46
unless either of you two gens have.
13:50
My understanding is they're pretty good with looking at
13:53
what beyonds videos in Europe are.
13:57
So, yeah, I don't know whether they get matrix or not,
14:00
but I guess it's always, like I said, a bit of a balancing act.
14:06
I think Roland's the same.
14:07
We only got test drives during the day,
14:08
so probably with the media cars,
14:10
I hope we'll be able to test them at night time.
14:15
Yeah, Roland question for you.
14:17
You've got a Model Y.
14:18
So, you know, here's a comment from Pepsi.
14:20
The Rural Drive one is almost the same price as Model Y.
14:22
I'm not sure if I'd get the base Zika over Model Y.
14:24
That's a lot of the questions I get on our videos.
14:26
I'm sure Roland, you would too.
14:29
It's pretty close there, isn't it?
14:33
But see, if I was looking at a Model Y,
14:36
it's a lot more different in the sense that
14:38
I would consider a Rural Drive.
14:40
Like I'd put them in two separate buckets,
14:42
like a Rural Drive in a long range,
14:44
but then if you look at what you get in terms of differences,
14:48
there is much more that you get in terms of bank or buck
14:51
when you look at the 7X.
14:55
Like as a panel package, because you go
14:57
Model Y entry level to long range.
15:01
You get more speakers.
15:02
It'll be different battery.
15:04
I think that's almost about it.
15:09
Yeah, that's right.
15:10
There's a lot of inclusions as well in Model Y.
15:13
Yeah, but the 7X Rural Drive,
15:15
yeah, great package as well.
15:19
And from a drive quality point of view,
15:20
I think the 7X drives remarkably well.
15:23
It's really hard to split between,
15:25
for me anyway, between the Tesla and the 7X.
15:27
I think they've done a great job
15:29
just tuning the suspension and the handling.
15:31
It's a good package.
15:33
I think, yeah, it's sort of like
15:37
the best way to test drive both and see what works.
15:40
The most common sort of thing I've heard today
15:43
from owners was they really appreciated
15:46
the physical buttons that they found in the 7X.
15:51
And that was one of the big sort of draw cards
15:54
for 7X for them over the Model Y.
15:56
And a few of them actually had driven both cars
16:00
and X-Pen G6 and BYDC Line 7 as well.
16:04
But in terms of the ride balance
16:07
for handling, space, tech, physical buttons,
16:12
comfort level, fast charging,
16:15
there were sort of the key things
16:17
that they were pretty happy with.
16:19
And then there's also one person also mentioned
16:23
that towing is also important to them.
16:27
But both vehicles can tow at least 1600 kilos.
16:31
But yeah, a few different factors
16:34
and of course the 32 kilowatt AC charging
16:37
that you get with the 7X.
16:40
Yeah, and obviously the faster charging at DC,
16:43
if you can find a charger, of course,
16:45
with the golden brick battery and the Chilean battery,
16:48
like I guess it's kind of future proofing yourself
16:50
with the 7X, it's good.
16:52
Yeah, be good to verify the fact that in Europe
16:55
the Zika's can only charge at, I think,
16:57
60 or 70 kilowatts at Tesla superchargers.
16:59
But obviously Roland and I and Riz yourself
17:01
would do the tests with the media cars too.
17:04
Apparently in Europe they do get adaptive matrix headlights.
17:07
A couple of people saying yes.
17:09
That's probably why.
17:11
And just answering Tassie Evie's question about
17:14
whether matrix headlights are allowed, they are allowed.
17:16
The Tesla Model Y's have got the adaptive high beams already.
17:20
So it's definitely a feature in some cars.
17:23
I think the Polestar's got them as well.
17:25
So the high-end Evies get them.
17:27
Yeah, different BMWs with them as well.
17:30
So they do work pretty well in sort of country windy roads.
17:35
But you're part of the Dodge category.
17:39
In European cars, like traditional ICE cars
17:43
I'm talking about, matrix LED lights usually attract
17:46
like a $3,000 or $4,000 option.
17:49
Then you slap on whatever percentage for the taxes and charges,
17:53
like at the end that small percentage.
17:55
Few words have to be about $4,000 to $5,000.
17:57
So yes, you look at the flip side to go,
17:59
right, the performance spec you say $79,000 to say $80,000.
18:03
If you go, it's $80,000, it's a great buy.
18:06
Would you still consider $85,000 as a great buy?
18:09
Like $79,000 seems to be way better to not have matrix lights.
18:14
Now that's just my thoughts.
18:16
But yeah, that's one way to think about it as well.
18:20
Yeah, I agree, Roland.
18:21
I think having used matrix headlights, they're nice.
18:24
Don't get me wrong, they're great to have as a bonus,
18:26
but it's not a deal breaker for me if I had a car with that one.
18:29
I'd rather have a cheaper price, I think.
18:32
That's the way I see it.
18:34
Now, and I'll also add that for $80,000 or $1,000,
18:39
you can get a 7x performance or we'll drive with their suspension.
18:44
Just to put into perspective, it's $40,000 for each light in the spectra.
18:51
So for two lights, I could get that 7x performance.
18:56
And that's all you get for it, brothers.
19:01
So it's beautiful to take.
19:04
Roland, you know that we just bought the MGS5.
19:08
And for that price of that car, you can get the starlight headliner
19:11
and the spectra that Riz has got.
19:13
So either contributing to Riz's starlight headliner or an MGS5.
19:18
Sorry, Riz, we had to go the MGS5.
19:21
I'm actually sitting in an MGS5 just to see what I would pick.
19:28
Or I would be in this space, which is also the Bonser Lounge.
19:33
The Bonser Lounge is not a physical space.
19:39
It's an ideology, isn't it?
19:40
Wherever you feel comfortable, it's the Bonser Lounge.
19:42
You can take it with you anywhere.
19:48
And I think Tony's saying, yeah, I forgot about the X-Ping.
19:50
There's a lot of choice in that segment.
19:52
Honestly, X-Ping G6, BYDC Line 7, Model Y, Zika 7x,
19:58
We'll talk about that later on in the show.
20:00
This market is exploding right now.
20:04
So speaking of Tesla, let's move on.
20:07
So, you know, Tesla have not launched a Model 2
20:10
or whatever you want to call a smaller Tesla,
20:12
but they've released an affordable Model 3 Model Y.
20:16
So this is interesting.
20:17
So to compete with these Chinese cars,
20:19
the cheaper end of the market,
20:21
will a cheaper Tesla Model 3 Model Y do that?
20:25
Will fill that space where Tesla fans want a cheaper car
20:29
instead of buying a Chinese vehicle?
20:31
What do you think, Gents?
20:32
Have they done the right thing here?
20:36
Model Y is still $100,000 car in my head.
20:43
What does cheap mean?
20:48
Rizio article says 14% off base price.
20:51
So this is based on the US pricing, right?
20:56
So this was launched in the US.
20:58
We thought Amudis was coming, was spoken about it.
21:01
Now, in the US, they launched the Model Y base version,
21:05
calling it the Model Y standard.
21:09
It gets quite a few things trimmed away.
21:12
But what was surprising was there's a Model 3 standard.
21:15
Now, that wasn't expected.
21:17
Of course, it's a lot harder for them to...
21:20
Well, it's easier for them to conceal that
21:22
because the Model 3 standard is literally
21:25
just a trimmed away version of the normal Model 3.
21:28
So even if they were testing it, you would never know.
21:32
I think they're getting closer to the price point.
21:37
But what we have to really think about,
21:39
this is the US market.
21:41
There is no Chinese brands.
21:44
And this is the starting price for these vehicles,
21:49
as in that's the introductory price.
21:51
Now, if the Model 3, which I think starts at about $37,990
21:57
or $36,990, if Tesla decided to do a special,
22:01
let's say, quarter one, 2026 at $34,990,
22:06
then this would be the $35,000 car.
22:10
At this stage, it's not.
22:12
The Model Y standard has a lot of stuff that they have cut back,
22:16
including the fact that, you know,
22:18
it's got, I think, a glass roof.
22:20
And on the inside, it's like sort of covered with fabric.
22:24
There's a few other things in the US.
22:26
You don't even get the basic autopilot anymore.
22:29
You basically have cruise control of some sort.
22:33
So they're encouraging people to go get full self-driving,
22:36
which is $99 a month.
22:41
But yeah, I mean, it's in showrooms now.
22:43
Deliveries are going to be starting in a couple of weeks time.
22:46
Only two days later, after they announced this in the US,
22:50
surprisingly, it popped up in multiple markets in Europe.
22:54
And the European pricing is a bit better.
22:56
I think it's in some markets, it's like over 20% of the price
23:02
of what used to be modeled by every real drive,
23:07
which is now, I think, Model Y premium or something.
23:10
And then there's this Model Y standard as the entry-level car.
23:15
Yeah, good summary.
23:16
I mean, look, what do they call this Model Y?
23:19
I don't know, Essence Air Essentials?
23:21
They're going to have a clever name like the MGs and the BODs, right?
23:24
There's something to differentiate it.
23:26
We've got the Model Y L in China for the bigger one.
23:28
So some sort of clever name, sure, Tesla will come up with.
23:31
But look, I also don't mind the fact that it's got fabric seats.
23:34
I don't mind that there's no glass roof.
23:35
I don't mind this little space down the bottom here either.
23:38
I think it's fine, honestly.
23:40
Tesla's not known for being too ostentatious with their trims.
23:46
Not having a glass roof is honestly not a big problem in Australia.
23:49
If you can get a cheaper car and it still has ability
23:52
to add FSD supervised with the hardware for,
23:55
then I think it's not a bad thing.
23:57
If they can bring it down to low 50s or sub 50s
24:00
for entry-level Model Y, that could be a good thing.
24:09
We need a new name, guys.
24:10
I don't have Riz Speck, Roland Speck or Tom Speck
24:13
for the budget Model Y.
24:19
Oh, no, that's the wrong spec.
24:21
That's like super spec.
24:23
That's the right stuff.
24:24
That's two weeks away.
24:27
So just quickly on that, so logistically,
24:30
these two models in the US, the Y and the spring standard,
24:34
will be built in Texas.
24:37
In Europe, we've only got the Model Y standard.
24:39
There's no three as far as I can see yet.
24:43
That will be built, I believe, in Berlin.
24:47
Now, I doubt we're going to get this model from Berlin
24:52
given the Model Y performance,
24:54
which is the first model to come from Berlin,
24:56
is $10,000 more than the previous generation.
25:01
Yes, it's got quite a lot of hit added to it,
25:04
but that's the cost of shipping stuff.
25:08
And pretty bespoke sort of getting the cars to Australia.
25:13
Tesla, almost like a few UK,
25:16
reckons that it's likely that they will receive this car
25:19
under 40,000 pounds,
25:21
which is sort of the street spot they're looking at
25:23
to be eligible for some sort of incentives.
25:26
But locally in Australia,
25:29
I think we'll have to wait until Giga Shanghai
25:32
has ramped up their Model Y L,
25:35
which is the sixth seat that they're making.
25:38
And then there's rumours that have already started in China this week
25:42
that they're supposed to be getting what they're starting to work
25:47
on potential production of these standard cars
25:50
for the Chinese and broader export markets.
25:55
I mean, for a budget Model Y,
25:57
it makes sense for our market to use the Shanghai factory.
26:00
I mean, why use Berlin or Texas?
26:03
It'll just make it more expensive, right?
26:05
So you would think the Chinese probably have some appetite
26:08
for this kind of budget spec as well.
26:10
So we'll just use that to bring cars from their factory
26:16
Yeah, I think this will be good.
26:17
I think more options at the low end of the market will be good.
26:20
I think that the Uber and DDs of the world
26:22
will definitely take this up for their fleet.
26:25
Makes sense to me if I'm going to ride share.
26:28
A cheaper car makes sense.
26:30
All right, we'll watch this space.
26:31
Thanks for this for the article.
26:34
Some comments from people.
26:35
So Pauline say not having a glass roof is a bonus.
26:38
I think it's a bonus, actually.
26:41
Yeah, I see that's right.
26:42
It's still got the glass roof,
26:43
but it's covered on the inside, correct?
26:45
But either way, it's covered.
26:49
And the fact that it's got hardware for FSD if you want it,
26:52
not a bad thing, right?
26:54
You just want the full self-driving,
26:57
like the actual software.
26:59
You don't care about the actual car itself as much.
27:01
It's not a bad thing.
27:03
I think that's where the key selling point of this car is that
27:07
it's fully kitted to do full self-driving.
27:10
I think it's supervised.
27:12
Supervised is full self-driving.
27:14
It's the camera and the hardware and the software is all sort of there.
27:20
Or if I was an Uber driver,
27:22
which obviously has been alluded to already
27:25
and I wasn't driving my Spectre,
27:27
then I would consider one of these with full self-driving.
27:31
It just makes driving a bit easier.
27:35
And yeah, that sort of spec.
27:37
And Tesla may decide that there is a friendly price
27:43
for this for businesses that want to transition.
27:46
We're already seeing across our cities,
27:49
Uber, Electric and a lot of taxi services.
27:53
We've seen them use model-wise for a while now.
27:56
So could be something for them as they decide to electrify their fleets.
28:01
And obviously, the good thing with that is even consumers have options
28:05
to purchase these vehicles when they're available.
28:09
Do we need a budget Spectre?
28:11
Is that kind of degrade the Rolls-Royce name?
28:14
No Starlight Headliner, no umbrella.
28:17
What's the point, right?
28:18
Well, would you call the Ziko 9X?
28:22
We know it's basically the Hangzhou Bay Column.
28:27
So maybe Ziko is the right sort of brand to produce that budget-friendly vehicle
28:37
with obviously pretty much a similar or even higher level of luxury
28:42
at a quarter of the price.
28:45
The Chinese can do luxury well.
28:47
Having watched a lot of IG Reels on their EVs there, it's fantastic.
28:52
We may never see them, but they have a great time just scrolling on their phone
28:56
while the car drives itself and passengers lying down.
29:01
Just staying with Tesla news for the time being.
29:03
Just to remind you, as Rahul has done here,
29:05
it's to be on the show that the Model 3 Long Range
29:08
rear-wheel drive is now available in Australia and New Zealand to order.
29:11
Should be in the country hopefully by the end of this year.
29:14
750Ks of WLTP range, apparently.
29:17
I think that deserves some sort of range test.
29:20
750Ks of range surely is one stop Melbourne and Sydney,
29:23
one stop Sydney to Gold Coast, one stop Melbourne and Adelaide.
29:26
I think that could be a game changer.
29:28
I think that's definitely worth testing when that comes out.
29:32
And just off the back of that, this in China,
29:37
the regulatory sort of system they've highlighted that Tesla is going to be launching
29:44
a Model Y equivalent, basically a rear-wheel drive long range vehicle
29:49
that's the Model Y.
29:51
In Australia, when they've launched this particular Model 3 version,
29:55
they've gotten rid of the long-range all-wheel drive.
29:57
So now you've got rear-wheel drive, long-range rear-wheel drive,
30:02
and if you want all-wheel drive in the Model 3,
30:04
you've got to go with the performance all-wheel drive.
30:10
I think that's not a bad marketing move actually
30:12
because the value was previously the long-range all-wheel drive.
30:16
Now if you want the all-wheel drive, you just go roll and spec.
30:19
Performance all-wheel drive and if you want a bigger battery,
30:22
you want more range, right?
30:23
So I think this makes a lot of sense to me personally.
30:27
And you won't be disappointed too if you just go to top spec
30:30
because you've got the best.
30:33
There's only one spec, right, Roland?
30:36
Actually, just from that,
30:38
they also did improve the range on the Model 3 performance as well.
30:43
It's gone from 528 to, I think, 571.
30:48
And I assume that's just little incremental improvements, right,
30:50
rather than changing the battery.
30:51
They're just aerodynamics.
30:53
I think even slightly bigger battery.
30:59
Just quietly more Tesla news.
31:01
So in Australia, I think,
31:02
I'm not sure how many of these are left in the inventory,
31:04
but they've slashed the full self-driving supervised software
31:08
for inventory stock as well.
31:10
So not bad for a good deal
31:12
for those inventory cars for Model 3s at the moment.
31:15
So some good deals going around.
31:19
And also, as Nash, our friend, pointed out,
31:22
premium connectivity has increased by about 40%.
31:25
So $9.99 a month to now $13.99 a month.
31:30
Look, I'm sure if you're a Tesla fan, it won't matter.
31:32
I think it's probably still worth getting, Roland.
31:35
I think you've still got a Tesla,
31:36
and so there is, you know, you get,
31:38
you get, did you still get Spotify connectivity?
31:43
And traffic, traffic awareness as well, like traffic routing.
31:47
It's the traffic thing and the remote sentry as the key ones.
31:52
And the traffic and also the live visualization,
31:56
like the live map, the one that looks like real world
32:00
as opposed to the cartoon type map.
32:06
I guess the question for you, Gents, is it still worth it?
32:08
I just, as a disclaimer, my Model S, I think has
32:11
premium connectivity built into it
32:13
because it's grandfathered from 10 years ago.
32:15
But do you guys think it's still worth the extra 40% increase?
32:22
I think so because, so let's, let's compare, right?
32:27
Recently, we've heard news that BYD now will be,
32:31
they had the free, let's call it the data plans
32:37
Now, a fair few of the vehicles are coming off that.
32:40
So now, apparently through the BYD app, you can go,
32:43
you can buy a monthly pack like this premium connectivity
32:47
Tesla was offering for 9.99 a month.
32:51
The only thing is that's capped to two gigabytes
32:54
where this, as far as I know, is unlimited.
32:57
So you could be watching YouTube videos, Netflix,
32:59
whatever you have to do if you're super charging
33:01
or doing something.
33:04
In my experience, it's worth it.
33:07
But there's plenty of other people that, you know,
33:09
would, you know, that prefer hot spotting
33:11
and whatever else people like to do with that sort of stuff.
33:14
But yeah, for general use, I think it's worth it.
33:21
Yeah, just to add on to that, before I go through my thoughts,
33:25
also the remote sentry, you're limited to 15 minutes.
33:30
I don't know who's watching 15 minutes worth,
33:32
but I do recall there's been previous social media posts
33:36
that people go, hey, I can't look at sentry anymore
33:39
because if you look at it for over 15 minutes,
33:41
it says you've reached a limit for the day.
33:44
So there's that too.
33:45
But yeah, I'm with you.
33:47
Like for me, it's a convenience thing.
33:49
Like I know, like people have already started saying
33:52
all over social media, you can set like Apple shortcuts
33:55
and there's like the Android ones where you can set as soon
33:58
as it's connected Bluetooth to the car,
34:00
the automatic returns on hotspot.
34:02
So it works like 95% of the time.
34:05
But again, like if I think maybe for my model,
34:08
it's less worth it because I don't have remote sentry.
34:12
But for my model, why it's definitely still worth it
34:14
having that remote sentry.
34:16
And the traffic thing is just a convenience thing,
34:18
but remote sentry for me alone is worth it.
34:21
I think it's an alternative.
34:22
If I didn't want to pay for this, as I used to do,
34:25
just hook up a mount with your device with ways
34:28
and Spotify and so on.
34:30
I know, but you can just log into your Spotify
34:32
through the Tesla native app anyway.
34:34
So I think there are ways around it, but as you said, guys,
34:36
it's the convenience of having on-screen real-time traffic
34:39
monitoring admittedly without the real-time, you know,
34:42
police radar, all those kind of things are ways offers.
34:45
But yeah, it's a tough one,
34:47
whether it's still worth the $14.
34:49
So let us know in your thoughts, guys, what you think.
34:52
Speaking of the BYD thing, we'll talk about that very
34:56
We'll talk about news on BYD connectivity, of course, as well.
35:00
Yes, Gene saying after two and a half years,
35:03
I finally have to pay $9.99 for two gigabytes of connectivity
35:07
So that's per month, I assume, Gene,
35:09
for that extra data plan.
35:13
And as Cameron, yes, the Model S is a vintage...
35:15
Well, it's been a vintage for a while, actually,
35:17
10 years, celebrating 10 years in November.
35:20
I've got a special video coming up.
35:22
Did an independent battery test with it.
35:25
And tell you exactly how much degradation it has experienced.
35:28
Thanks to our friends at Test EV.
35:30
Nathan Gore-Brown, shout out to you for testing my car
35:32
in Sydney recently.
35:33
So watch out for that video in a month's time.
35:37
Yes, a month as well.
35:41
Oh, apparently, Grant says,
35:43
Joy and I were on some sort of Channel 9 show on FSD.
35:47
I haven't seen that yet.
35:48
So I don't know what that's about.
35:49
Hopefully it's not too bad on mainstream media.
35:51
Always worry when our faces show up.
35:56
Thank you, Lightning.
35:59
No, we will cover other cars.
36:02
It's quite Tesla heavy today.
36:03
I do appreciate that, but there's lots to cover.
36:06
We will get to other cars very shortly.
36:09
We do try to cover as much as we can.
36:11
But unfortunately, there is one more Tesla bit of news.
36:14
So, Roland, you've got telling us earlier
36:16
that's Model 3 performance updates.
36:19
So front-facing camera, indicator stalk is back,
36:21
and black Tesla badging for the Model 3.
36:23
So all those goodies for Model 3 orders,
36:26
as well as the greater range as well.
36:29
For more, this is controversial,
36:31
but I like the fact that the indicator stalk is back.
36:37
Maybe I'm getting old.
36:38
I prefer just muscle memory from 20 years of driving.
36:41
It's quicker, especially when you're stressed.
36:47
And one more bit of Tesla news.
36:49
So yes, V2L comes to Tesla.
36:54
New Model Y performance offering V2L in America,
36:57
at least with the Tesla Outlet adapter.
37:00
Tesla has entered the chat from a V2L point of view.
37:04
A question for Zika.
37:06
Does Zika 7x have or require premium connectivity?
37:09
Really, Zika probably answered that.
37:13
One of the owners today was telling me a little bit about it,
37:17
and he mentioned that he believes it's five years.
37:22
Maybe that was part of some initial offer.
37:25
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe it does have it.
37:29
One thing, since we're talking about premium connectivity,
37:32
is which networks are they using for?
37:41
And yeah, I'm just not sure whether other viewers or listeners
37:46
have a better idea of what others such as BYD or Polestar
37:51
or others are using.
37:54
Polestar had Office, because I remember there was an outage
37:58
either early in DC or last year,
38:01
and there were people saying that they couldn't access anything
38:05
unless they've changed.
38:07
But it definitely was.
38:08
At one point, Polestar definitely was on Office.
38:12
Tesla's definitely Telstra.
38:13
There was an outage a few years ago,
38:14
and a lot of Tesla owners were out.
38:16
Andrew's saying 7x free premium connectivity for five years.
38:23
Yes, I can confirm that as well when I had my seal.
38:26
Gene says, one good thing about paying each month,
38:28
you can decide to take a data holiday.
38:31
Look, to be honest, BYD, I probably wouldn't pay for it
38:33
because I was using my Apple CarPlay connectivity anyway.
38:36
So I was using my own phone's payment plan.
38:39
So I probably wouldn't pay the extra.
38:42
Can I just say one thing about the connectivity
38:45
I want Zika's website because I was checking
38:47
because I think I thought I recalled seeing it
38:49
when you go through the order page
38:51
that you get the five years included.
38:53
Talk about terminology like
38:55
Tesla's got the premium connectivity name,
38:57
and in Zika, they're calling it standard connectivity.
39:00
He says five years included.
39:02
Are we going to start seeing people start to give
39:04
different names for the same thing?
39:07
Well, I mean, here's their chance to be quite creative, right?
39:11
Let's call something else.
39:13
Well, so while we're talking about that,
39:16
what happened to XPeng's stantry mode?
39:19
What's it called or what's BYD's?
39:22
Centennial? Centennial?
39:25
No, no, XPeng changed it.
39:28
It's like X, I covered it in my video.
39:32
It's got an X name.
39:34
They changed it from Sentinel mode.
39:36
Let's figure it out.
39:38
Yeah, it's from their recent update.
39:41
I just forget the name.
39:43
On the app, Sentinel mode, but in the car,
39:45
it's like X-Century or something,
39:47
something quite brand focused.
39:50
I just forget what it's called.
39:52
Someone with an XPeng can tell me.
39:55
Yeah, Zika's got Century Mode 2, doesn't it?
40:00
Actually, someone, yeah.
40:02
It does. I remember having a look at it.
40:04
At this point in time, you had to turn it on
40:07
every drive though. It does turn off.
40:09
It doesn't have dash cam, but I do record in Century Mode
40:12
and you have to turn it on every time you drive.
40:14
Same with XPeng, but you can do an X combo
40:16
and just have it on when you come into the car,
40:18
or when you park the car.
40:24
Now, let's just quickly thank our sponsors.
40:26
Real quick, take a little break.
40:28
Thank you to, once I put this on, there we go.
40:30
Thank you to Han Cook tyres, Ion EV tyres.
40:36
1,000 kilometer guarantee, I believe,
40:40
Thank you to PowerShop for their EV plans.
40:42
You've got day plans, night plans.
40:44
If you don't want a wholesale price like AMBA,
40:46
then if you want more sort of reliability
40:48
with how much you're paying, then, yeah,
40:50
PowerShop's the way to go.
40:52
And of course, thank you to Riz from Kaluv,
40:54
Dada from Power Australia's EV Revolution.
40:56
Thank you to our sponsors for this evening.
40:59
Now, this is kind of a Tesla bit of news.
41:02
Not really. It's Tesla hardware at least.
41:04
Good to see more Tesla's super-charging hardware
41:07
being used in other sort of, you know,
41:10
other what do you call it, CPOs?
41:13
Operators. Operators, thank you.
41:15
Using Tesla hardware, and as we know,
41:17
Tesla is quite reliable from that point of view.
41:19
So, admittedly, 800 volt cars may suffer a bit,
41:22
but everything else, you know,
41:24
it's quite reliable for that reason.
41:26
So, I don't mind seeing this.
41:28
You know, other CPO branded hardware in the UK.
41:32
Hopefully you're here too in Australia, guys.
41:35
Yeah, fingers crossed.
41:37
I mean, it is good reliable hardware,
41:39
and they are pushing a lot more of white labeling.
41:42
Something pretty exclusive for our viewers and listeners.
41:47
I heard something pretty sort of,
41:52
I think it's exciting.
41:54
There's some big plans in 2026
41:57
for charging in Australia.
42:01
High-powered, many, many bays,
42:06
and that network is already very extensive Australia-wide.
42:11
You can read between the lines of what it is,
42:14
but, yeah, they're one of the cheapest fast-charging networks,
42:17
and they have very serious growth plans for next year.
42:21
So, watch this space.
42:23
There's something in it for 800 volt cars.
42:26
There's something in it for 400 volt cars,
42:28
and it is going to happen.
42:30
It's going to happen very quickly.
42:32
So, whether you drive Tesla, BYD,
42:36
or the 800 volt cars like the X-Pen, Zika 7X,
42:40
and many others that are coming,
42:42
there will be something in it for everybody.
42:44
So, yeah, pretty exciting stuff.
42:46
So, watch this space.
42:48
Ooh, time for Tony questions, Ruiz.
42:50
So, already in the country, this CPO.
42:53
Already in the country.
42:55
Is it a fossil fuel provider as well,
42:57
or purely EVs at the moment?
43:00
Look, that would give it away.
43:04
Let's just say we're able to do the big focus.
43:09
Add it to the slogan.
43:11
Okay, I don't know this, by the way.
43:13
I'm actually trying to guess.
43:15
Don't ask me other.
43:17
But that's good, Ruiz.
43:19
Is it what Tessie EV said?
43:23
I mean, it makes sense, right?
43:25
They're kind of trying to roll one out already.
43:29
Okay, let's roll that out.
43:35
That's good though, that's good.
43:37
I thought it might have been.
43:39
I thought you might have said maybe flow power,
43:41
because they did publicly say they were going to come to Australia from the UK.
43:43
Yeah, there's a flow power.
43:45
That's part of the plan,
43:47
but no, it's not them.
43:51
It could be OTR, actually,
43:53
because they are quite big already in this country.
43:57
but then they were acquired by Viva Shell,
43:59
so I haven't seen too many.
44:03
Has anyone seen any Shell petro stations with OTR
44:09
or whatever they were going to put in,
44:11
like in terms of charging?
44:13
Yeah, I would add too much.
44:15
No, haven't either.
44:17
Yeah, I mean, we need to go to a Bunnings.
44:19
There's only a few in Sydney,
44:21
so I think Roland, you've been to one, haven't you?
44:24
They should put one at Castle Hill.
44:26
There's two floors of parking.
44:28
No one parks down below it.
44:30
Same with Chattel, no one parks below other.
44:38
originally some of the Bunnings sites
44:40
had the Schneider equipment,
44:42
but on the Explorer network.
44:46
ocular equipment is starting to show up,
44:50
which could mean there's a broader rollout in the works.
44:52
So these are 60 kilowatt dual port.
44:54
I know they're not the fastest,
44:56
but hey, on a post,
44:58
two CCS ports at a Bunnings,
45:04
So yeah, if happening,
45:06
they're affordable,
45:08
but reliable charges,
45:10
and they're going so, yeah,
45:12
Explorer is another network that I think
45:14
could be doing some pretty interesting things,
45:16
especially if they can really capture
45:20
but also it's a good thing because
45:22
people go to Bunnings, they're going to see charges,
45:24
they're going to see, well, EVs are actually real.
45:30
They should put the sausage sizzle
45:32
next to the EV chargers.
45:34
That'll definitely get people interested, right?
45:36
My nose always follows the snags.
45:40
the story writes itself.
45:42
Justin, yeah, Shellet,
45:44
Coomera Queensland has an EV charger.
45:46
I think you share this with us as well.
45:48
Look, this is your picture, Justin.
45:50
Thank you. Woolies Charger.
45:52
Woolies is another company doing good things.
45:54
Putting charges in their car parks.
45:58
Not the fastest, but that's okay.
46:00
Most people shop for an hour or so.
46:02
So 47 kilowatts is probably okay for a quick top-up
46:08
And I think there's a deal with
46:10
what is it called? Woolies Rewards as well.
46:12
So all good things.
46:14
And as we quickly touched on as well previously,
46:18
starting to get charged for their
46:20
data plan. There you go.
46:22
Officially from a Facebook post.
46:26
There you go. Let us know in the comments
46:28
if that is something you would pursue,
46:30
you would keep paying for.
46:32
Usual lots of comments there.
46:34
Both positive and negative from Facebook.
46:36
Thank you. That one, when I posted,
46:38
was negative because it was on the day
46:40
of expiry that the notification
46:46
There you go. The official
46:48
sort of price there.
46:50
Thank you, Arm, for posting that.
46:52
As I said, I probably wouldn't because
46:54
I use Spotify or an Apple CarPlay,
46:56
but each to their own.
47:02
still worth posting? Let's see. Let's have a look.
47:04
So XPeng News, I think
47:06
there was a deal for
47:08
five years free servicing if you bought an XPeng
47:10
in September. I don't know if it's still
47:12
valid, guys. Have to double check the fine print.
47:14
I think there is. I think it is
47:16
there as far as I can see
47:18
those offers are still on
47:22
It was point number one there till the end of October.
47:26
Oh yeah, okay. Yes, thank you.
47:28
Yep, 31st October. So you got
47:32
1-2 allocation exhausted.
47:34
How many thousands of cars they got here is
47:36
I've got number trees.
47:48
so far that they've
47:52
I just wish they would
47:54
I just wish they would report, right?
47:56
I have asked them officially to report.
47:58
They said they're working on it, whatever that means.
48:00
So hopefully that'll help boost numbers, right?
48:02
If we can get reports from XPeng,
48:06
Kaluv's shipping data says
48:10
yeah, they're around that
48:16
waiting on the September figures.
48:20
I don't think it's that
48:22
thousand plus that was mentioned
48:24
in that press release that
48:28
thought about it, spoke about it.
48:30
We just weren't sure. So
48:32
we wanted the coming months to tell us a different story
48:34
but I don't think it has.
48:36
Now I've got asked quite a bit
48:40
So in my head, in terms of drive quality
48:42
I think the 7X actually does drive
48:44
better. It seems like
48:46
a more stable, smooth ride. You can agree
48:48
to disagree with me. But I think
48:50
where the G6 is good is in that
48:52
the base spec, you get quite a lot for
48:54
that money. It's still a very good
48:56
value car. And this is obviously the
49:00
we get in Australia. We don't know what the new
49:02
G6 drives like. And obviously
49:04
you don't get the all-wheel-drive variant as well with the X.
49:06
G6. So if you want all-wheel-drive variant then
49:08
obviously the 7X is where the money
49:10
is at. But I think a G6 is still
49:12
a very good value car for the
49:14
real-drive long-range. That's just my opinion.
49:18
Yeah, and five years free servicing.
49:20
That's good. Does Zika have a similar plan
49:22
for early adopters? Free servicing?
49:24
Did they have an offer? They had
49:26
some sort of, I think they had a
49:32
I can't remember now. I can't remember.
49:34
Someone can tell us.
49:36
Okay, there you go. That's X.G6
49:38
and all right, let's push
49:40
into this story now. So we hinted
49:42
at this earlier. The GAC
49:46
stands for Guangzhou Automative
49:48
C for Corporation, I think.
49:52
Something like that. It's from Guangzhou
49:54
in China. So GAC, Ion
49:58
coming to Australia, confirmed
50:00
by this press release. There you go.
50:02
November 2025. That's when it's coming.
50:04
They're launching the Ion V, which
50:06
is a fully V, as well as the
50:08
M8, which is a plug-in hybrid. And then this
50:10
MZOOM, I think this is an ICE car,
50:12
isn't it? MZOOM. What I can read.
50:14
Yeah, so obviously we're
50:16
interested in the Ion V.
50:18
Had a quick drive of this earlier this year in Singapore?
50:20
No, I didn't drive it. I had a look
50:22
at it. I was sitting in the car park at the GAC dealership.
50:26
gents in that it's not
50:30
to GAC. It doesn't look
50:34
say, the G6 or the 7x. It looks
50:36
actually quite boxy, right?
50:38
Quite standard. Would you agree?
50:40
Reminds me of a Subaru Forester.
50:46
I think it's sort of
50:48
the smart hashtag five that didn't come.
50:52
It's got the boxier looks
51:04
an fully epiphydoid of
51:16
Specsline is pretty good.
51:18
I think it charges at up to
51:22
DC charging, which is not bad.
51:28
I had a bit of a play when they
51:30
surprisingly rocked up at
51:32
the show in Melbourne last year.
51:36
like fully flat seats.
51:38
They can technically sleep
51:44
going to be unique in the
51:48
Yeah. I mean, this is not a
51:50
picture of the iron V. I don't think this is more looks like the other one.
51:54
why I think it's not quite the right pick isn't
51:56
have to double check all that
51:58
but looks like there's an LFP variant as well.
52:00
Yeah, it's look it looks okay on the
52:04
Again, not the fanciest looking EV, but
52:06
if they can price this right, this could
52:08
could take a lot of market share from
52:10
you know, the current front runners in
52:12
BYD and Seeker and Tesla and so on.
52:14
So yeah, I'm curious to see where this
52:18
Surely you had to compete with the D-PAL
52:20
S07 which is now sub 50
52:22
drive away, right? So be
52:24
good at this is 45 to 50.
52:28
That's what I'm expecting it to be at around
52:32
mark as a starting price
52:34
especially given the competition that's
52:36
here already and what's coming.
52:40
Yep, boxy looking Kia EV 5.
52:42
Yeah, that's a good call actually.
52:46
Cameron says Ion V also looks a
52:48
bit like a Kia, correct?
52:50
Grandpa, not as good looking as the IONIQ
52:58
huge price drops this week
53:00
or last week whenever it was
53:02
we are talking like
53:08
for the IONIQ 6 in Australia.
53:12
You can get one for sub 50,000 for the
53:14
trim at the moment.
53:16
That's crazy for an IONIQ.
53:20
We're near the end of 2025
53:24
You had to spoil the party didn't you, Roland?
53:28
I have a theory with these
53:32
which is I think Hyundai
53:34
has been paying too much attention
53:36
to the airfield grand final that we
53:40
Particularly the live performance
53:42
drop it like it's hot.
53:44
That's what they've done.
53:46
They've dropped all the prices
53:48
to that stage where
53:50
they're giving them away.
53:54
drop. It's like bargaining
53:56
in a market, right? You think what?
53:58
You just gave me a 50 percent off the price.
54:00
It wasn't worth that much to begin with clearly.
54:02
That's a huge discount.
54:04
77 grand to 50 grand.
54:06
Wow, that's massive.
54:10
be forgiven for a price drop like that?
54:20
it's polarizing. Let's call it that.
54:26
I think for me it can. I think so.
54:28
Yeah, for the right price.
54:30
The Roland spec for you, 50 grand.
54:32
59 grand. That's not too bad still.
54:34
60 grand for drive away.
54:36
Yeah, it needs to be faster though.
54:44
No, this one. I think it's in the
54:46
five or six seconds.
54:48
Yeah, five or six, yeah.
54:52
Total was 200 something kilowatts.
54:58
Well, I guess you want a streamliner.
55:04
That's what they call the IONIQ 6.
55:10
that I think on freeways it gets
55:14
or 11 kilowatt hours per 100 kilometers.
55:16
Right, you're talking about the
55:20
Yeah, and that's what they
55:22
the marketing title was IONIQ 6
55:26
You can tell, right? Look at the way the air leaves the back.
55:28
It's just like that.
55:30
9.11 just at the back.
55:34
And Insta, now sub 40
55:38
That's a bit more palatable.
55:40
You know, can it compete
55:42
with the dolphins and the MG4s of the world?
55:44
That is the question.
55:48
Small car though, very small.
55:50
They're trying to get in before
55:54
Oh, true. True that.
55:56
I think Hyundai or Hyundai
55:58
have said that these prices won't last.
56:00
I sound like an ad now.
56:02
Apparently they will go back to that.
56:04
Regular schedule pricing next year.
56:08
I'm not vlogging these, but I'm just saying
56:10
like, you know, these are good prices for now.
56:14
just quickly, what happened?
56:16
Remember, it was like a
56:18
chukratful pump a couple of years ago.
56:20
We're covering it on the EV show here
56:22
that it used to be like
56:24
they used to go on sale
56:26
and within 10 minutes
56:28
find out website would crash and all of a sudden
56:30
you had like people that couldn't
56:32
get orders in for the Ioniq 5s
56:34
and 6s. Now is the time to buy
56:36
whether you're buying new or used.
56:38
They're giving them away.
56:40
I remember that, Riz. Thanks for
56:42
reminding me. The Ioniq 5 when it first came out
56:44
it's like we've only got 500 stock and then boom
56:46
all the fans will go in there and get it.
56:48
Not a bad marketing ploy actually to say, oh wow
56:50
look how quickly they're selling it.
56:52
Yeah, it worked, correct. And now there's
56:54
as you said, giving it away now, but not the 5s though.
56:56
The 5 is not on, oh is it?
56:58
It's on sale. I think that's still
57:00
a fairly popular car, the Ioniq 5.
57:04
And the cone is quite good as well.
57:06
It's quite, yeah, but 50 grand
57:08
a little bit steep, but it's
57:10
still good quality of course.
57:14
Now what else is on sale?
57:16
So smart hashtag one also on sale
57:18
from $47,990 drive away.
57:20
That's a bit more palatable too.
57:22
So $10,000 sale on the smart hashtag one.
57:28
I still think the three looks better, but hey
57:30
that's a good start, right, from LSH.
57:36
Yeah, Lightning, who wants to see
57:38
an EV class at about this $1,000?
57:42
A little quick 10 lap sprint?
57:52
Like a 10 minute pit stop.
57:56
Oh no, Lewis says someone else,
57:58
he's also seen our FSD ad on 60 minutes.
58:00
I better watch that.
58:02
It's probably a mixed picture.
58:06
That's what I'm assuming when you
58:08
really stick with FSD.
58:10
Stuff gets cherry-picked for whatever
58:14
So hang on, can they do that?
58:16
Can they randomly take
58:24
and put it as an ad for
58:26
the things that are
58:32
without the context?
58:36
Did the channel get mentioned, Lewis?
58:38
You'll have to ask. Have to look at that ad again.
58:40
I think if they mention the channel
58:42
or add the icon of the
58:44
maybe, I don't know.
58:46
What are you going to do, Sue Furfax?
59:01
What can you do, right? We're small fish.
59:03
I'm a small fish anyway.
59:05
What can you do? It's a big pond.
59:09
We're almost at the end but we've got a few more cars.
59:11
So GWM bringing another electric SUV
59:13
finally after the aura.
59:15
It's been around for a while. What are we talking here?
59:17
What kind of car they're bringing?
59:19
I think we're talking
59:27
right about the same size.
59:29
You can sort of see it's like a blotier
59:35
But yeah, all in all
59:39
I think we're going to get it probably
59:41
in the first quarter of next year.
59:45
of the few electric cars
59:47
that are in the works
59:51
for markets like ours, particularly with
59:59
smaller than the Geely EX5
00:01
slightly bigger than the MGS5.
00:03
So yeah, that's not a bad segment.
00:05
That's probably the next segment that needs to be flushed out.
00:07
That smaller SUV, bigger hatch.
00:11
Yeah, does look like a blotted aura.
00:13
Not a bad looking car actually.
00:19
hoping Riz and Rollin
00:21
it's got to be 40s, right?
00:27
Definitely no fives.
00:29
No, no fives. Definitely not.
00:33
peak power. Again, that's the same as my MGS5 now.
00:35
1.5 tons. Yeah, good specs.
00:37
48 to 63 kilowatt hour, hopefully LFP as well.
00:43
for that. There's a few of their hybrids on the market.
00:45
The Canon Alpha, the
00:49
tech. That's right.
00:51
So good, good to see.
00:53
What's, oh, what's this from Riz?
00:57
Oh, that must be the standard, the aura
00:59
that's there now. Oh, the current aura.
01:03
Yeah, nice. Yeah, I think the aura extended range
01:05
is quite a good deal for memory when I covered it
01:11
And Roland, this is yours.
01:13
So, LeapMoto B10 ADR approved.
01:15
That's good. Another small SUV
01:17
big hatch coming onto the market.
01:19
Rural drive, good battery size.
01:21
Could be compelling.
01:29
drive away. Drive away, yeah.
01:31
Great price. Yeah, yeah.
01:33
Yeah, I'm just a little bit concerned
01:35
about, because having driven the C10 recently,
01:37
the ADAS was not good.
01:39
It was quite grippy.
01:41
It would pull your line
01:45
So hopefully they'll fix that with the B10
01:47
and hopefully Apple CarPlay, Android Auto
01:51
The CarPlay and Android Auto
01:53
is Q1 or January, one of the two.
01:59
It looks like a small C10, right?
02:01
So, yeah, not a bad design either.
02:03
Good and rural drive,
02:09
And what else have we got?
02:11
Oh, yes, thank you, Aaron. I'm not sure
02:13
what he's watching tonight. Aaron saying
02:15
he spotted a few EVs in New York
02:17
on his holiday. So we've got
02:21
Bit of a souvenir now, isn't it?
02:23
Fisker Museum piece.
02:27
We're going to get these. These are sexy vehicles.
02:29
These Lucids, I've got to say.
02:31
They look so good. So nice, right?
02:33
That's a slippery car. Very slippery.
02:35
That would be quite expensive, I
02:37
imagine, if they ever came here.
02:43
only get three of these for your Spectre
02:45
rather than, you know, 20
02:49
Well, all I'll say is
02:53
spouting money all over it.
02:55
Where Spectre still is
02:57
very much fluent through British
02:59
German, whatever you want to call it.
03:05
And then the New York
03:07
Mustang Marquis, although it's now
03:09
just called a Marquis police car in my PD.
03:13
An avatar of the story of, I was stopped by
03:15
the police here in Sydney when I was driving
03:19
and I thought I was in trouble.
03:21
It was like a random breath test, right? I hadn't drunk yet, but still.
03:23
The cop looked, the police
03:25
man looked in and went, oh, show me what
03:27
this car's about. And he had a look inside.
03:29
And he gave me permission to just
03:31
slide off quickly past
03:37
Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
03:39
That's good they're using EVs in
03:45
this is the interesting thing I found
03:47
just browsing on the internet
03:49
here. So if you are confused
03:51
by the Chinese EV brands
03:55
and just Chinese EV brands in general
03:57
as Riz and I sometimes are when we go to China
04:01
This is kind of someone's
04:03
opinion of where these brands
04:05
position themselves
04:07
in the Chinese market.
04:09
So up the top here,
04:11
high tech stuff like Xiaomi, Neo, Ato,
04:15
and then the premium stuffs like
04:19
and then semi-premium. So this is where
04:21
X-Pang, Zika, Voyeur,
04:25
IM, SIT and that semi-premium space
04:27
and then Super Mainstream which I
04:29
assume Tesla is in there
04:31
where's Tesla? I can't see it.
04:33
Someone's point out to me.
04:35
I guess it's not technically a Chinese brand
04:37
Tesla. But this is where BYD,
04:41
Deepow. Well Deepow is considered
04:43
Super Mainstream, okay.
04:47
and then Mainstream is
04:55
Entry Level Stuff. I don't think we'll ever see
04:57
some of this in Australia.
04:59
The Entry Level Stuff you see in China.
05:01
Although Great Wall is down here at Entry Level
05:07
nice little graphic there to help me
05:09
as well just to position where
05:11
these brands sit. Lincoln Co.
05:13
is in Super Mainstream apparently.
05:17
Do we disagree with this? Anything we should
05:19
like, should any of these move
05:21
up and down? What do you think?
05:23
That's pretty good. I think Lincoln should be moving
05:25
up because of the 9X and a couple
05:27
of those, you know, 009
05:31
let's call them luxury vehicles
05:33
in their own right.
05:35
Hunter Cullinans, yep.
05:41
an Ark Fox when I was with Deepow at the testing grounds there.
05:43
That looked pretty good.
05:49
not the GWM Tank, right? Is that a different brand?
05:51
I think it is the same brand.
05:55
yeah, maybe it's a separate like
05:57
maybe it's a separate brand
06:01
The Tank products are
06:03
Tank, although it's made by GWM.
06:05
Yeah, a Cameron, yeah,
06:07
109 brands. It is insane actually.
06:09
If you ever get to go to China, you just
06:11
stunned by how many cars, different brands.
06:13
You just cannot name them or why can't anyway.
06:15
There's just so many to choose from.
06:17
There's a few you go, okay, I know that one, that one.
06:19
Yeah, that's just insane.
06:21
So yeah, I'll leave that up there for a little while
06:23
and that's what you can refer to
06:27
with all the brands coming to market.
06:33
another good show tonight. Thank you so much for joining us, Roland.
06:37
Thanks for having me. It was great to be back.
06:39
Lots to cover. Still plenty more.
06:43
And check out Roland's YouTube channel, Zapt,
06:45
on the video description below.
06:47
Anyways, Riz, thank you so much for your time.
06:49
Thank you for joining us from the Bonser Lounge.
06:55
Broen to be back on.
06:57
And yeah, I know today was
06:59
a little bit Tesla heavy. We covered Zika
07:01
and a few other things, but
07:03
I think as we get into sort of the
07:05
next couple of weeks, I don't think
07:07
things are going to slow down, gents.
07:09
Before the end of this year, it looks like this
07:11
was spoken about a couple of models
07:13
that are going to be launching
07:15
potentially one of Australia's
07:17
field-based electric car.
07:19
That's going to be launched as well.
07:21
That will create a whole lot of buzz
07:23
amongst mainstream. You can buy
07:25
electric cars for around $25,000
07:31
anyway, lots of things for us.
07:33
And thank you to all our audience
07:35
and viewers and listeners
07:37
for sharing all of your insights.
07:39
And yeah, amazing to always get a chance
07:41
to hear what you guys are thinking
07:43
as well. Yeah. Thank you for the bi-directional
07:45
learning. Maybe we should change the show
07:47
to bi-directional live stream. We just
07:49
don't as much as you guys as we do, as you
07:51
from us, hopefully. So I love it. I love
07:53
doing this Wednesday with you guys and
07:55
our audience as well. So yeah, we missed
07:57
you every Wednesday, last few weeks, but
07:59
yeah, it's good to be back and good to be
08:01
learning more about what's coming up in
08:03
the Australian market. Thank you, Rees. Thank
08:05
you, Roland. And thank you, everyone. Have a
08:07
good night. We shall see you all
08:09
same bad channel, same bad time next week.