The Ford F-150 is a large pickup truck. The podcast mentions using a product to clean dust off an F-150 variant (the Raptor). It’s part of a conversation about keeping the truck looking good.
The Toyota Crown is a Toyota car model that’s popular in Japan. Here, the hosts are joking about getting Toyota Crown seats/chairs as office furniture, showing how car brands sometimes make non-car products too.
The Dodge Charger SRT8 is a high-performance version of the Charger. The hosts are talking about a specific 2006-era SRT8 in a video, including the “cop chase” vibe people associate with Chargers from that time.
Concept
art imitates life
This phrase means stories and videos often mirror real life. They’re using it to say the video feels like it matches what would really happen with cars like that.
A “rabbit hole” is when you start looking into something and suddenly you can’t stop. In car terms, it’s like one deal or article leads you to keep digging into more cars and prices.
The Honda S500 is an older, classic Honda sports car. The podcast is talking about one being offered for $16,000 and whether someone will buy it. It’s mentioned because classic cars like this are often judged by price and condition.
“Taycans” refers to the Porsche Taycan, Porsche’s electric car. People bring it up when they’re talking about what you can buy for the money, especially used or discounted deals.
The Porsche Taycan is an electric car made by Porsche. It’s designed to be fast and exciting to drive, not just a normal commuter. The podcast mentions it alongside other performance cars people compare when shopping.
A lift kit raises the car higher off the ground. It’s commonly done to fit bigger tires and look more off-road, but it can make the vehicle harder (and sometimes more expensive) to maintain.
A swing-out tire carrier is a spare-tire mount at the back that swings open so you can reach the spare. It’s typical on off-road setups, but it adds extra parts that can wear out or be more expensive to fix.
Concept
auction market pricing
Auction market pricing is what a car actually sells for when people bid on it. The hosts are saying prices can move around a lot based on what buyers want right now.
Concept
platform misperception
They’re basically saying people can misunderstand what a car’s “base design” is really like. In this case, they think the market has been judging the BMW platform the wrong way, which affects prices.
The Ford Excursion is a very large SUV. The podcast mentions it as a choice for where to take something, likely because it’s roomy and capable. It’s being discussed as an option based on size and practicality.
The BMW M3 is BMW’s high-performance version of the 3 Series. Here, the hosts are saying people tend to keep these cars because they really want to drive and own them, not just resell them for profit.
They’re talking about whether some cars can act like investments. The idea is that you might buy a car expecting it to be worth more later, but it’s not guaranteed—time will show if you picked well.
The Chevrolet SS is a performance sedan that enthusiasts like because it’s a real driver’s car. Here they’re saying a particular Chevrolet SS—manual and low miles—is a great deal because most similar cars are automatic and priced higher.
A manual transmission is the kind of car where you use a clutch pedal and a gear stick to choose gears. The hosts are pointing out that manual versions are rare, which can make them more desirable.
A “wrap” is a vinyl covering you put over a car’s paint to change the look or protect it. They’re saying this car might be better left alone rather than covered up.
PPF is a clear protective film you stick on your car’s paint. It helps protect the paint from small damage, and some versions can be tinted or colored for a different look.
The Honda Civic Si is a sportier version of the regular Civic. Here, they’re talking about how much a 2000 Civic Si with low-ish mileage is selling for today.
The exhaust is the system that carries gases out of the engine. Changing it (like with an aftermarket exhaust) can affect how the car sounds and feels, and it can also affect resale value.
Brand
Mode Tech
Mode Tech is referenced as a brand name for an aftermarket exhaust system. In enthusiast circles, specific exhaust brands can matter because they’re associated with particular fitment, sound, and perceived quality.
“Going backwards” here is the idea that once you’ve gotten used to a higher tier of car—typically comfort, refinement, and daily usability—downgrading to something cheaper or less premium can feel disappointing. The hosts frame it as a mismatch between nostalgia/childhood favorites and what the car is actually like once you’re paying real money for it.
They’re talking about adding aftermarket parts or upgrades to make the car better than it comes from the factory. Their warning is that the total cost can get way higher than people expect.
The Honda Civic is a compact car made by Honda. The podcast mentions a Civic that looks wider and more aggressive, even though it’s still based on the Civic’s main design. It’s being discussed for its appearance and platform connection.
The Acura Legend is a luxury sedan made by Acura. The podcast talks about liking a two-door “Grand Coupe” version instead of another style. It’s mentioned because people have preferences for certain body styles.
The Acura Integra is a compact car from Acura. The podcast is saying that if you like the Integra, you should buy one. It’s mentioned because it has a loyal group of fans.
The Acura CL is a luxury coupe. The podcast talks about owning a CL Type S and really liking it as a car. It’s mentioned because it’s a specific trim people associate with a more exciting feel.
The Toyota Corolla is a common, everyday compact car. The podcast talks about whether a particular Corolla-style option is returning, and mentions the GR Corolla as a performance version you can buy. It’s part of a discussion about what Toyota offers now.
Infotainment is the screen and electronics in the car that handle things like music, maps, and phone features. The host is saying Acura’s infotainment hasn’t been good in the newer models.
Low mileage means the car has been driven very little. For older cars, that often makes them more desirable and can raise the price.
Term
GM plastic
“GM plastic” is a nickname fans use when they think a GM car’s interior feels like cheap hard plastic. The host is basically saying the Camaro’s interior reminds them of their older GMC.
The Chevrolet Cavalier is a compact car that was sold for a long time. People sometimes modify them because they’re common and relatively inexpensive to work on.
Chrome refers to a shiny metal finish (often chrome plating) used on trim and wheels to create a reflective, “bling” look. The hosts debate whether adding chrome is worth it, and mention using acid to polish chrome—reflecting how enthusiasts historically maintained that finish.
A “softening market” means fewer people are paying top dollar right now. When that happens, dealers often add better deals—like discounts or cheap financing—to sell cars.
Term
0%
“0%” means the financing deal has no interest charge. That can make the monthly payment cheaper than a normal loan, depending on the loan term.
Tesla is the company that makes the electric cars being discussed. Here, the host is using Tesla’s lease offers to show whether the market is getting more or less expensive.
Fleet sales are when companies buy cars in larger quantities for their own use. The host says you can often see more of this when the overall market is slowing down.
The Tesla Model 3 is an electric car model. The host is talking about a 2026 Model 3 lease and breaking down the deal terms like how many miles you’re allowed and what it costs per month.
A lease is a contract where you pay to use a car for a set term and mileage limit, then return it. Lease agreements typically include end-of-lease charges for excess wear and mileage, which is why the host emphasizes avoiding dings and staying under the mileage allowance.
Toyota Care is Toyota’s included service plan for routine maintenance. The host likes it because it can mean fewer maintenance bills while you’re leasing.
Concept
tax wise
The host is saying leasing through a business can sometimes be better for taxes than buying. It depends on the business situation and how the lease is set up.
The Range Rover is a large luxury SUV from Land Rover. The podcast mentions it because some people choose to lease it with big monthly deal offers instead of buying. It’s about how people handle the cost.
“Write off” usually means you can potentially deduct certain costs from your taxes. If you’re using the car for business, lease payments may be deductible, but it depends on your situation.
The hosts frame car buying as an “experiment,” emphasizing research and side-by-side comparisons rather than walking into a dealership unprepared. The key idea is to model total costs and options before negotiating or committing.
“Phantom costs” are extra expenses that aren’t obvious at first. They can show up later—like fees, insurance, or other ownership costs—so you want to include them when comparing options.
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a very expensive luxury car. The podcast mentions the “costs” of owning it and compares financing versus leasing. It’s about how you pay for the car and what that can mean for your total expense.
Financing means you buy the car with a loan and pay it off over time. Leasing means you pay to use it for a set period. Comparing them means looking at the total cost, not just the monthly payment.
EV means electric vehicle. Instead of buying gasoline, you usually pay for electricity to charge it, so your running costs can be different.
Brand
Capricorn
Capricorn is mentioned as a company that builds very high-end, rare supercars. The hosts are basically saying they learned about it through this Zagato project.
Zagato is an Italian company that makes special, custom-style versions of exotic cars. Here, they’re talking about a Zagato-built hypercar prototype with very limited numbers and unique design details.
This is a Ford sedan that has a powerful V8 engine. The podcast says it makes around 900 horsepower, which is extremely high for a car like a sedan. It’s brought up because it’s an impressive performance example.
Carbon fiber is a strong, lightweight material used on performance cars. They’re basically saying “if you see this, you know it’s a high-end, pricey build.”
A prototype is basically a “test” version of a brand-new super expensive car. They’re saying this one hasn’t fully entered the final limited production yet.
The Koenigsegg Jesko is a very rare, extremely fast supercar. The podcast compares something to it, saying it’s similar in spirit. It’s mentioned because the Jesko is a well-known performance benchmark.
The Gordon Murray Automotive T.50 is a supercar made by Gordon Murray Automotive. The podcast mentions it because they think it would be interesting and encourages looking it up. It’s brought up as a car worth researching.
A V12 is a type of engine with 12 cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s often associated with smooth, exciting power and a special sound—so people get excited when a car still uses one.
Horsepower is a number that describes how much power an engine can make. The host is saying people talk about it so much that it doesn’t always tell you how good the car feels to drive.
“Driver experience” means how fun and satisfying the car feels to drive day to day. The host is saying it’s better to make a car enjoyable to control than to just brag about big power figures.
The Nissan Frontier is a midsize pickup truck. They’re talking about a new Sport Package that’s meant to make it more capable for off-roading without costing as much.
“Off-road capable” is a marketing phrase meaning the vehicle is designed to handle rough surfaces better than a typical commuter setup. It usually points to things like suspension tuning, tires, and drivetrain/traction features intended for dirt, gravel, and uneven terrain.
Term
budget friendly
“Budget friendly” is a marketing way of saying “this should be cheaper.” The hosts are basically questioning whether the price will actually live up to that promise.
The Toyota Tacoma is a midsize pickup truck. The podcast calls out a “Tacoma tax,” meaning the truck can be priced higher than you might expect. It’s mentioned to help people think about whether they’re paying extra for it.
The Ford Maverick is a smaller pickup truck. The podcast is comparing it to another vehicle and saying the other one could win if it costs less. It’s about which truck offers better value.
The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck. The podcast mentions a problem with the tailgate that someone has had since buying a new one. It’s being discussed as an ownership issue to watch for.
The Beetle is a small car with a very recognizable, rounded design. In the podcast, someone corrects the model name, saying it’s actually a Polo. It’s mentioned because they’re talking about what car it really is.
A “street truck” generally means a pickup set up more for road use than for off-road work—often with a lower ride height and less emphasis on off-road suspension travel. In this segment, the hosts use it to describe how the teased Ram TRX looks more road-oriented than a traditional lifted off-road stance.
The Ford Lobo is being mentioned as a type of Ford vehicle you might consider. The podcast is using it like a category—basically saying you should look at something in that range. It’s brought up as part of a buying discussion.
A “single cab” pickup has seating only in the front (just two doors). In the conversation, they’re saying it might not make sense if you already have another truck.
The check engine light is a warning that something in the engine or emissions system isn’t right. Usually you need a mechanic to scan the car to figure out what’s causing it.
“E90” is a BMW 3 Series generation. They’re just saying they’ve had theirs the longest, as part of a discussion about how long they keep cars.
Concept
12-18 month guy
This means the person usually keeps a car for about a year to a year and a half, then changes to something else. It’s basically a “short-term ownership” style.
Concept
car collection vs cycling vehicles
They’re talking about owning cars in a different way: not just keeping a bunch forever, but switching between a few you really want. The idea is to enjoy them and then move on to the next one.
The Cadillac Escalade is a big luxury SUV. They’re using it as an example of a vehicle someone might love owning and rotating through, not as a technical discussion.
Car
Ford Raptor
The Ford Raptor is a super capable off-road pickup truck. Here they’re basically saying it can be annoying in normal life, like when it’s hard to park or move around.
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One of my favorite phrases that I read online that comes from Nick to a listener or a watcher
of one of our videos is, I'm out on all of it. Anytime I read, I'm out on all of it. I literally
laugh out loud. I hope you know that. That's good. Yeah. No, that's a good one to be pumped up about.
Yeah, dude. So this video that went up recently about car culture versus internet car culture,
we've only really done maybe two little rants or segments and built clips off of that over the last
year and a half, but it's always funny to see people's responses because you can either tell
how much they are oblivious to the subject or how much they are leaning into the subject
and then how they just don't get your opinion or our opinion and then you they just say this guy's
full of shit or whatever. And depending on what it is, you know, it depends on Nick's response,
but I'm out on all of it. I'm with you depending on the week of the month. Sometimes I'm just out
on all of it. I don't know what it is. Yeah, it's look, I think it's hard. First of all,
for anybody that takes my opinion one way or another, I think creating content the way some of
these men and women do, I don't think is easy. No, you know, I don't I don't think people that
aren't in that world know how much filming and editing and ideas and and so it's not a shot at
people, you know, when you when you tell people how stuff works for some reason, they seem to think
you're taking a shot at something or you're defending something. Yeah. And it's like guys,
nobody's taking a shot. Nobody's defending anything. We're just telling you how it works.
And you can think whatever you want doesn't really affect my life doesn't affect Rob's life or any
of the content creators life. But that's what I see as as part of this car discussion as a whole.
You say something to show people how the car buying system works and it's you're
not defending anybody. I'm just telling you how the shit works. And I think the more we get out
there and people realize that we're just trying to share how this stuff works, I think we're
getting more and more people to go, Oh, they're just sharing how it works. Yeah. And to piggyback
off of things that Nick has said several times, the know it all culture, right? So there's somebody
that has like half the people in their family making six figures in the automotive business.
And I'm like, the percentage that is so low in reality from what I know less than 5%.
I only worked at a luxury dealer, not again, not a car salesman, but I only worked at luxury
dealerships. So what do I know? And many people that work in the car business are living paycheck
to paycheck because the majority of people want 60 plus percent of the population's living paycheck
to paycheck. But you know, 32 people that are making six figures as car salesmen. No, you don't.
Statistically, you don't. Maybe they tell you that. That that happens quite a bit in life,
as you know, as an adult, people lie about what they make or they're putting something in the
trunk. Let's be real. Yeah, or they're moving bricks. I mean, one of the other. But yeah, man,
you're either going to take the information or you aren't. And I think that's kind of where you
get in all of this. And I will say this is that we continue to interact with people on our pages.
But you also see why people that have been doing this five and 10 years ago,
I don't really go to the comments anymore. You know, you guys have to understand that
that 20% knucklehead is costing you a lot of interaction and answers to your question from
a content creator, because they're just like, Yeah, I'm not going to do this anymore. Yeah,
you got us and you're going into year two, you're five. I cannot promise you that we'll be responding
to you in any way, shape or form. So it's actually not about that you don't want to.
You know, I think that's what people don't understand. It's that the 20% are so bad
that you just go, I don't want to deal with this anymore. And if the culture, meaning all of you
and all of us doesn't start calling out these people, and it's all on the creators to call
out these people in the comments, that's why they stop interacting. So because I think so many people
think the 20% is acting the way they should act, instead of looking at it and saying the 20% is
ruining it for everybody. You ruin everything you're ruining her. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's
inevitable that you're going to always have those kind of people, but I don't know. I try it and
you have you're such a good sport about it these days, like you just literally you have a good
time when you're on. Oh, dude, it's I send stuff to Rob. I send stuff to other people. I go, Hey,
look what this person wrote. I I start out very similarly in every endeavor I've done.
Once I understand it, I have the laugh about the silliness. Yes. Yes. Once I get the lay of the
land, I just turn into this is this stuff is humorous. Yeah. And this is a great time to join
clutch.club. By the way, if you want to join the discord, get on our list, which we
haven't sent out any emails to anybody, but we've got some things brewing. It's also a good time
to mention the complete detail kit is at hypercleanstore.com, which is all linked in the
description. If you want to wash your car, the way that Nick and I do, that's where you get the
complete detail kit. I actually got to hit the Raptor with some eco one or something to get the
dust off of it. I was talking about it the other day. There's nothing worse than when you wash
the car and just a sudden storm, you know, some clouds want to just build up. I'm like, No,
fucking way that I just spent an hour doing this and you're gonna rain and down there, dude, dude,
dude. I mean, we went just a week ago, two weeks straight of rain. So why do I always hear about
drought? I have no idea. That's okay. I'm lying. I'm exaggerating. It does get very dry. But when
it rains, dude, as they say, it pours like we had two straight weeks of rain. We could use some rain
out here. So I live in a place, but when you when it rains over there, you also flood. You got parking
structures are underwater and stuff. Yep. Yep. We get more monsoon type of rains, right? Like where
it just comes in and but nothing soaks in, right? The desert is so hard. It doesn't soak in. It kind
of sits on the top until it dries out. Yeah. And it's just one of these things, man, like,
it's big talk now, out here, the whole drought thing and the Hoover dam thing. It's like, it's
all over. And people act like there's some type of like power expert. Yeah. And then they ask me
questions. And I'm like, I don't know, dog, I'm pretty busy. I'm gonna let the people that understand
that deal with it. I don't think they're calling me for my two cents. There's a guy whose audio has
gone viral. So the video went viral first and you might have seen him and pardon, I don't remember
who it is. I think he might have been a comedian, but he could have just been a regular guy who was
just really funny and went on a rant. A yap as they're calling it these days. And it's like,
he goes through everything. I just don't care anymore, right? And it's like, it's like, I don't
care about anything anymore. Do I want to be informed? Kind of, but not really. I'm just trying to
survive. All right. You don't know what the Strait of Hormuz is and I should know either. Why should
we care? And it's literally like a minute, a minute and a half. It is the funniest thing about
the Middle East. If you've never been over there, sit it out. Sit it out. You really don't know.
If you haven't been to these places, you really don't know. You don't know what they're like.
You don't know what the culture is like. You don't know anything. It's okay. It's okay to sit it
out. And I think I've been having that conversation more in the last year with people close to me.
When they asked me stuff, I go, have you been there? Uh-uh. Sit it out. It's like your boy,
what's his name? Dave Smith got all pissed off that one time when a dude goes, so you've never
been there. I mean, did the guy handle it wrong? Sure he hadn't handled it wrong. Does the guy have
a point? Yeah, he's got a point, but you might want to go there. I mean. And listen, I read more
on the West. I'm a huge fan of Dave Smith and of, I'm forgetting Homeboy's name, but yeah,
I know what you're talking about. That was a while back, but still, I get it. I'm going to take it
a step further though, where Nick cuts off the line. Have you been there? No, right? So you went
the same route like, have you been? Have you ever been? Right? What was that dude's name?
People got so offended by it, I'm like, yeah, he handled like a dick. Murray. Yeah, Gordon Murray
or something? It's not Gordon, but it's something Murray and someone's going to throw their phone
out the window. I think I just used the car guy's name. Gordon Ryan? No, not Gordon Ryan, that's
but I go with Douglas Murray. Douglas Murray. Yes, sir. That's it. It was a great book. He
arguably was a different person at the time when you wrote that book. But anyway, I'll go
one step further and I'll be like, how much have you read about it? Because when I get asked,
people know that I like to know about that stuff and I always have. If you haven't read at least
two or three books on the subject or whatever the area that, by the way, you need two or three
different sides. Exactly. Exactly. Of the of the issue. Like if you go through my two or three
people, you agree with it. Right. Right. Very easy to form your opinions that way. Trust me,
it's hard to muscle through some of the stuff, but my Audible has at least three or four books
on certain subjects that I'm just fascinated with. And if I ask somebody, what have you read
about it? And they're like, well, I read this headline. I'm like, I can't do this, dude. Yeah.
I've spent six months reading about stuff. And by the way, planes fly there all the time. Yeah.
So, you know, instead of the Disneyland trip, you could have just taken that trip and then you
could have been more educated and then we could have actually had a conversation. I know. It's
probably that's been to the Middle East. I still have very few opinions about what's going on in
the Middle East. It's okay to just relax, man. It's okay. If you haven't heard that audio,
everybody, you're going to hear it now because it is so funny. People will be doing like
carpentry work, something unrelated to that stuff. But it's just like a guy making stairs,
but the audio is underneath it. Like, I'm busy, man. I don't give a fuck about what's going on.
It just goes on for like a minute and a half, which I don't fully agree with. I like being
informed. But I mean, hey, do you just don't get so mad about people? Dan Soder said it best.
Some things are just not for you. They're not for me. This isn't for me either. And
at a baseball game, I don't want to talk about it. Let's just watch the baseball game. When I'm
watching Sean Strickland fight, just go ahead and let's leave it at that. Let's just watch the fight.
When you're watching Ellie Dilla snooze, go 10 and 0, get shut out by the Astros last Friday.
Hey, relax. Relax. Relax. I'm kidding. They ended up winning the next.
He's struggling at the ground balls. We're struggling with the ground balls.
He's too fast and too long for his own good. He just moves past the ball.
We got to talk about it because I got some DMs. Strickland fight. Okay, man. I mean.
What? What? You don't buy that he dislocated the shoulder?
Well, if you buy anything Strickland says, you need to have your head examined.
No, we're buddies. Relax. I don't think you win the championship by a split decision.
I'm old school. You got to be the champ. I completely understand.
I will agree with you because it was so, I mean, he jabbed his face off. Clearly you could see his
face, but we should have had Joshua Vann as a main event. That was a phenomenal fight.
Great fight. Great fight. I love seeing him and Danny Pineda in there from the old school days of
Houston MMA. It was really cool. But yeah, man, Strickland, the rematch is going to be incredible,
I feel like because it's not going to be a rematch. Your boy can't make 85, but he said he
won't fight again. Then he only wants to take that rematch or he won't fight again.
Make an 85 is did even make 85 is the talk of the town. Now, thank you for saying that. I
watched that. I usually watch the Wayans and everything before he even stepped on. I think it
was DC. Might have been a wide man. He looked he looked puffy, skinny. Yeah. And that's when you
know, waits a problem. Yeah. And then the scale goes, it just clicks up and they're like, wait a
minute, it's not supposed to do that. What any fun? Like, wait a minute, 185. And then you got my
boy Bryce Mitchell goes on a whole rant online and a bunch of people did. I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah. No, here's the deal, man. They said he tried to drop 47.
He's asking questions. Something like that. 40. Yeah. 40 pounds or something like that.
That's 25 is a sweet spot. Just for everybody. Doesn't fall fighting 40 to 47. That's,
that's you can't make the weight. That was brutal, man. I was I really did think after the second
round, either he took it off or he caught a second wind after that. But I was like, Dan's gonna be
over in the second round. He was so fatigued after round one and his cardio has always been
questionable. Always. Yeah. If he doesn't mold you in that first round, it's kind of questionable.
Yeah. It was fun though. The card was good. Yeah, agreed. So well, that's UFC talk. Oh,
that was culture corner entertainment corner and MMA sports corner all in one.
Let's go ahead and start with an incredible story that was sent to me that I thought wasn't real,
but here we are. So did you see what Toyota is going to be releasing a limited edition of?
You'll never guess it. I'm not going to guess it.
Toyota crown office chairs straight out of a Toyota crown.
Oh, I didn't expect this long of a silence. How about 35 hundo and it's only going to be limited
to 70 chairs? There's a lot of this is going to be on cars and bids and bring a trailer in 10 years.
Like what are we doing, man? Dude, this is incredible. This is so good. When somebody said
it to me, I was like, yeah, that would be funny. Right. They're like, no, no, this is real.
I can't imagine. And by the way, they kept the seat belt thing there.
Yes, it's actually a USB port, by the way. Oh, OK, that's not.
I like that you pointed that out. They thought of everything. I'm going to say for everybody not
watching on YouTube, this is incredible to see this thing. Let's go to the next story.
No, come on. You have nothing to say. You have a Toyota Lexus.
I have when they were proper. Right. Let's let's say this when they had the proper V8,
everything. So don't lump me in with this nonsense. OK, I'm going to have to separate from the brand
here. All right. Well, here's somebody that might want to separate from the brand. Somebody sent
me a video of 2006 Dodge and Veil's the Charger SRT8. Now, for those of you that don't remember,
I actually remember this. I can't play the audio because they put music underneath it,
but I'm going to play it. And Nick and I are just going to talk about what we see here.
It's a red SRT8 Charger being chased by a cop charger. And if you I forgot until I saw it,
but the comments got to be AI. This is not 100 percent what happened.
This is how they debuted it in 2006. The comments are as wild as your imagination can possibly
think of right now. And they should be. Essentially, art imitates life,
as we all know. They know who they were going to be selling these cars to.
They knew what would happen when these hit the streets, essentially. But this is when proper
commercials, debuts, I think we're at an all time peak. It's kind of like the Ultima factory thing.
They didn't know what they were unleashing when they did that video. Exactly. I don't know how
I blocked this out, but this is unbelievable. This is so good. You guys have to go watch the video.
This is crazy. And then we might have been talking, but they like put the whoever the chief,
you know, was announcing that they put him and start putting him in handcuffs and stuff
towards the middle of the video and standing right there. He's like, what are you doing?
They got it. They got. Oh, that's just awesome. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you could get away
with that today. Well, it seems like a very 2008. The financial crash was upon us.
It was upon us. Different time. Boy, we were hog wild back in 06. Not a care in the world.
Didn't know what was coming two years from then. Yeah. Hey, you make $12 an hour. You can afford
a $1.6 million crib. I watched the big short probably once a year, by the way. Yeah, it's
a great. And that is an all time book. I never read the book actually. I should read it. Michael
Lewis. Yeah, that's the books probably better than movie. Of course. I mean, you got to be
that guy. The books always better. I get it. The books always better than movie.
Look, I don't read Harry Potter. So I can't tell you whether or not that never seen the movies.
In that instance, I had read it on, matter of fact, on a flight to the place I told you to all visit
if you're going to, you know. It was a long flight and a good book. Yes. So I love that movie, though.
Great movie. That's so funny. All right. I'm going to take a shift here because, actually,
before I even pull up another article, so our conversation last week led me down what's under
$20,000 in the around the country. What's I started going down this rabbit hole?
My buddy Brian just sent me an S500 for $16,000. $16,000. Yeah. Is he going to buy it or are you
going to buy it? I said, where's the buy now button? So you said, shout out Brian. Shout out
Brian for sure. Great, great part of the hyper clean specialist group in the whole ecosystem.
Cayans, excuse me, Taycans, M3s. I mean, depending where you're looking and what mileage you're
comfortable with, there are some deals out there. Have you seen, you haven't seen Taycan under 20,
have you? I brought one up that was 25, I think, in a couple of weeks ago. So if I looked, it's
probably under 20 at this point. You think I'm just losing $5,000 a week? Dude, I come on at
this rate. They're going to be giving those away. Well, the Gen 1 Cayan, for sure. I mean,
you can find some of those under 10. Yeah. And I don't know the intricacies of it. So I wanted
to ask, because I know you, I think you mentioned it too. Like, what would you buy if you found
the right deal generation wise or year wise? You mean I'm like a Cayan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know, man. If you could find like a
2012 to 2015, if you could, if you could find it, because you'd still get some more modern
amenities. Yeah. But I think if you buy Cayan, you know, at those low prices, you're really
thinking about doing some work to them. Really? Right. You're thinking about, you know,
lift kit, you know, front bumper, rear bumper with the swing out, you know, with the swing out
tire. I mean, I think if you go that route, you're going, hey, I'm chopping this thing up. Like,
you know, I just don't think daily driver wise, that's what that's something people want to deal
with. Although I don't think it'd be a bad daily driver. It's just the repair costs and the headache
and, you know, that kind of thing would be would be a little bit cumbersome. But I'm telling you,
those used Cayans, there's some cool ones, man. Dude, they're really, really cool. And I think
I had mentioned to you last week that I saw an m3 just like yours. It was going for like 99,
right? Oh, yeah. I don't see it online anymore. I think something, something happened to it. I
don't know where it went. They took it off the market or whatever. So probably really for 99.
We're seeing mine go up now. So exact same, everything is my car 43,000 miles, same mileage,
whatever went for 43 last week. Where do you hit sell? Well, when I was following the auction,
I thought to myself, I'm going to say how I think about it. I'm not saying this is right.
The E 90 platform has has always in this whole run up of E 92 and E 46 and all this kind of stuff.
People have thought about the platform wrong, in my opinion. Okay, tell me. And
it was an incredible value. It's sort of like we say with 996 Porsche, right? There's just a lot
of things just because of the headlights. It's just, there's just a lot of nonsense because
the headlights aren't traditional Porsche headlights. Well, it's still a Porsche
and it's still a good driving experience and it's still everything. So when people ask me about
platforms, I think I've always been drawn to number one, I like the 90 platform,
but the second part of it is it was incredible value. Yeah, right? Six speed manual. I have
everything that I want. And the problem that I continue to face is if I sell this,
there's a high likelihood I'm not getting into another manual. Yeah, what? Meaning like a manual
that I love. Yeah, I could certainly find something to get into. Don't get me wrong. But now I'm
probably taking that to excursion. I'm taking that to wagon. I'm taking that and those things
aren't going to come with a manual. So I think I'm struggling with that part of it is because
you know, I'm basically saying I'm cashing in. Yeah. But I'm not really cashing in with anything
in mind of this is what I really want to replace it. So I couldn't really tell you to be honest with
you, but it seems like we're going to see a run in the 90s. I don't think you're going to see it go
to, you know, 150,000. But I think you could see goodie 90s like mine with with no issues,
you know, crest into 48 to 52, because you're just getting less and less options, right? It's
all getting gobbled up and it's not really all being put back on the market because like a lot
of guys that are buying E 92s right now, it's because they want to own them. Yeah, you know,
it's not just collection pieces. It's not that's not the whole market. So a lot of people that
are pulling the trigger on something like E 92, they're pulling the trigger to keep the car.
They're not they're not pulling the trigger to sell it in six months. It's just not that type
of platform. What do you think about the E 46? It's just never I really love how it looks. It's
just not something I've ever wanted to own all that bad. It's never been like the thing that
spoke to me. But I think they're great. They're obviously great cars. It's one of the all time
great platform. This one came across 149. And that's what I mean is like these things are getting
to a point. 55,000 miles. Where where you gonna where where would I hop back in and what platform
would interest me? That's that's what I really struggle with. And I think people I think we
probably haven't had the realistic discussion of there's going to be a lot of these platforms
that are not meant to be flipped. And this would be a lot of these M threes are not going to be
flipped in the next five years, right? They're going to stay with somebody, you know, because
they want they just want them to keep going. No, I think the guys want them. Yeah, I think
you're in a different class of vehicle like some of these, you know, let's just call it sub $150,000
cars, just using a round number. It's not exactly the number. And then let's even say sub 100,000
would be more. Most people buying that is because they want to own it. It's not some kind of collection
piece or some asset by I mean, asset stuff, you're looking at, you know, 250, 550, a million,
million and a half. Those are where people think they're going to see a real return,
whether they do or not, you know, time tells if they pick the right platforms. But
I think it's, it's really tough to see a bunch of this stuff come back on the market after it
kind of goes off the market. I mean, stuff will always be sold. Yeah. But the problem is, the
next time it sells, instead of it being 100, if it's 130, then you've kind of missed out on it,
you know, for a lot of buyers. Yeah. So that was kind of what started to pop up at the top of
the list of the stuff I was looking for. Just man, you know, I started going like you like,
you know, coops a day and the whole thing. And then I didn't end up at the leaf because you'd
already expressed to me what you saw. But I'm going to pull up a couple of other ones real quick
that I saw. How did that? How did you not pull up a Chevy SS by now? Oh, I did. I had those already
saved. You just dinged on your phone. I got a bunch of those. Yeah. Yeah. There's a 17 black
on black. I don't want black. But yeah, I agree. Yeah. Black on black, pretty low miles for like
43. And I'm like, damn, that's a good price. It's undervalued. It's a really good price. It's a
manual as well. There's a ton of automatics out there. There's only like seven or eight
manuals right now on the market. The manual SS is undervalued. Yeah, that's a such a good buy. So
I thought to myself, man, I could get it wrapped really well. But I like, I just something about
me doesn't want to wrap it. No, no, don't wrap. Don't don't do don't be that guy. What do you mean?
So that's not a car to wrap. Okay, let's let's leave it alone. What if it was the car you really
wanted? And it checks the boxes undervalued, buddy, you don't need it. So I'm gonna give you a little
little buyer's advice here. Okay, you don't need the car. All right. Just wait for the one you want.
All right. Oh, that's that's sane logic. I agree. Yeah. Now, if if you're somebody out there and
you go, I need a car, then sometimes you just got to take what you can get what fits fits you at
that moment. You're not in that position. I feel like you're scolding me for one because I can't
watch you do this. I can't watch you put a wrap. You've never wrapped a car that you didn't like the
color of personally like for you. No, no, I never I never liked vinyl. Now, would I and we've talked
about it on the LX. Would I change the color of the LX with colored PPF? The answer is yes.
Oh, that's right. We're kind of far down that road of exact colors and but I'm letting the
kinks get worked out of color PPF. Sure. And then then we'll kind of go down that road.
Well, let's go the opposite direction real quick, because this was pretty interesting
at what the prices of these are doing. Tell me what you think these are going for right now.
Damn, it's up there. Never mind. What's a 2000 civic SI with 50,000 miles, I think it is.
I mean, I would have guessed 50, but oh, really? Okay, 39, 9.
What are we doing here? What are we doing here?
These weren't a $20,000 experience when they were new. No, they were like a $12,000 experience.
Unless you put the mode tech system exhaust and the just said 12 grand.
How about this? The name is exotic car trader. Yeah, there's nothing exotic about the civic SI.
They're in Tejas, by the way, if you guys are wondering.
This, you know, they are in Tejas. Yeah, that's that's not a that's not an exotic car.
You got to you got to really start having this conversation for all of you.
Most of you who listen to us are enthusiasts. This is what you care about. There's
I think I see far too many people and let's have this discussion right now. Okay.
The seem to be going back backwards in their car buying like they are, you know, somebody
is driving around an Audi now and they're like, I always wanted to own a civic SI.
You do realize when you get in that civic SI that you just paid 40 grand for, you're going to be like,
well, my Audi, I'm just going to get in my Audi. Yeah. Yeah.
But you've already kind of gone to a certain level. So I see a lot of people going backwards and
and the reason I say this is I get a lot of these phone calls. I get a lot of these messages.
Hey, what do you think about this? Hey, I bought this and it's really not all I remember. It's like,
yeah, but you're driving a Benz now. So going backwards into civic SI
is not going to be the thing you think it was. I really think that doesn't get set out loud enough.
It's like, Hey, man, once you get used to some things, going back to those childhood quote unquote
things you loved, it may not be what you think and you just paid a pretty penny for it. Yeah.
And there's exceptions obviously to it, but there's not very many of them.
Like you can get a 24 SI. I was actually I think I might have brought that up two weeks ago for
less than that $39,000 2000 SI. What are we doing?
I think some and I was never a civic SI guy, but I did appreciate them.
One of the things that that it's a civic. Yeah. Like you got to say that out loud.
Like it's it's going to be what it is. Now if you say to me, Hey, Nick, like you said,
I'm going to buy this. I'm going to do all the modifications. I'm going to do it all to a high
level. And then I'm going to make this thing awesome. I think that's great. I think you probably
need to do the pricing of what that's going to cost you today because now that $40,000 SI is like
82 grand all in for what you really want to get it to. And then you better make sure you love it
because the odds of you getting that 82 grand out of it is not going to happen. Never, never.
I'm all for it though. I'm all for you getting it. I just want to be on record of like, Hey,
we push foolishness here. If you haven't already realized that. Yeah. And if you buy this $40,000
one, please send us an email. What about the integrity pass? Cause I kind of went down the
rabbit hole of that. I underappreciated it when it first was released. It's obviously based off
of the civic platform, but it looks good. It's like wide. Has that accurate look? I think that I
think they look good. I think people are going to be shocked. I'd rather have that Acura Legend
two-door Grand Coupe. No, you wouldn't really. Hell yeah. That thing's baller. That is pretty
cool. Yeah. But I'm just talking, they weren't my thing. If you're, if you're an Integra guy,
I would obviously say buy the Integra. Didn't Ludacris have a legend that he was, that he still
drives? But he still has it. Yeah. That thing's unbelievable. That is unbelievable. Like that
just looks, that was peak Acura. Yeah, absolutely. And for everybody at once, I had a CL type S
Acura, one of the best coupes I've ever owned. I mean, just did everything it was supposed to do
was a nice car. One of my friends had one also. I gotta tell you something, man. I love that car.
I loved Acura back in those days. So if you, if you're into type S's, right price, I could see
why people talk themselves into it. Cause that, that Acura ain't coming back. No, no, no, no,
no. That's the reality that we get through a augmented reality in the future. Yeah. Like you
can still buy a, in the way that, what I mean by it's not coming back, like you can buy a GR
Corolla, right? So at least with Toyota, you have somewhere Acura, you're like, I don't like any of
this. That dumb infotainment they have too in the new ones is unbelievably terrible. It's been
dumb from the get. I mean, they've really done it poorly from the jump. Then they just said,
we're going to stay down doing it wrong. If they want it, they want it. If not, leave it here.
Yeah. All right. So who cares about the sales going down?
Maybe because of fourth gen Camaro talk is up and the prices of the older ones are up,
but I want to pull up. Now this time I'm not going to show you 2000. It's a 2000 Camaro SS
white Z28 package. It's a Z28, but it's an SS 2000 miles, 2500 miles actually. What is it going for?
48. Survey says 35 to
I mean interesting 2500 miles. That could be interesting.
That could be interesting. I personally love this car.
Man, that GM plastic dude. I know my GM, my 95 GMC had the same interior. Of course it did. Yeah.
The Chevrolet, the parts been of America. You got to do something with that steering wheel,
right? That's got to be like, that's got to be like the first modification because you just
can't look at that. It is terrible. That's off the Cavalier, by the way. And it was so bad.
They said, let's put buttons on it. And the buttons. Yeah, yeah. The buttons. Three C's.
Yeah. Got the got the parking brake jacked up all the way. I mean, look at that cloth.
You know those seats are comfortable. They are comfortable. With 2500 miles, I wouldn't say they
probably still smell new, but if they had some miles on it, that's just going to smell good.
Yeah, don't have a lot of the old farts in there yet. Yeah. Exactly what I was thinking.
Hey, you can fit, you can fit car seats back there. That is pretty roomy for 2000 Camaro,
now that I think about it. Yeah. Hey, full seat basically. Yeah. Yeah. Hey,
hey, I could get behind that. Not wasn't one of my favorite platforms, but I could see why
teatop. Bruh, teatop. Hey, teatop, incredibly underrated. Yes. People that don't like them,
I honestly can't be your friend. Like I've heard people say, I don't like teatops. Like,
are you joking? Yeah, that's crazy. Teatops are way more acceptable than the convertibles that
have been built. For sure. And these wheels, dude, they've always just resonated with me.
Yeah. I see that. I see that those wheels speak to you. I don't appreciate the way you said that.
Yeah. I mean, your heritage and, you know, if they were chrome, would they be even more up your
alley? When I was a teenager for sure, I used to be out there. SOS pads on whatever I could shine
up. We all love chrome back in the day. By the way, if you have chrome, just use acid.
AWX. Yeah, AWX. Hypergonser.com. Yeah, back in the day, we didn't have it. I thought we were
going to see chrome. We had a little resurgence of chrome, but it didn't seem to take like I kind
of hoped it would. Yeah. Wait, wait, if it did, would you have added chrome to your stuff? Are
you a chrome guy now? Like on the LX? No, I just like seeing it around, Rob. I don't necessarily
want it on my stuff. I just kind of like, you know, I just kind of like knowing it's there.
Give somebody a nod. Here's the thing. If they brought spinners back and they caught fire back,
oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I like you got those on there. I don't know. The LX with some
spinners might look kind of cool. You know, go to Rent-A-Rim and get you some chrome spinners.
Boy, those people had no morals back in the day. Yeah. By the way, it still exists.
Do they really? Oh yeah. Rent-A-Rim is, oh yeah. My apologies to Rent-A-Rim. I had no idea. And
just so we're clear, in Vegas, on the east side, which is, you know, more of Rob's heritage,
there's still a lot of Rent-A-Rim places. Are there? Okay. Good to know. Oh yeah.
All right. Last one that I've pulled up, just because I say that I wanted to get your thoughts
on it. We talk about the tacos in the Toyota stuff all the time, 2024, TRD, Double Cab,
four wheel drive, obviously the whole thing. What do you think it's going for? It's only got,
by the way, it's only got 26,000 miles. 59. That's what I would have thought too.
This might be the sleeper if you guys are looking for this. 39,999.
How did the bottom fall out of this? Yeah, exactly. This is, this would have been 59
four years ago, 30 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, that would be, that would be worth it.
24, Double Cab, TRD Pro. Now, you still have a problem. That's the new platform.
True. So there's going to be some worries about it, but that's better than I would have thought,
for sure. Yeah. I mean, for sure. As Nick said, softening market. Yeah, it's,
you and I have been sharing some videos back and forth. There is a lot of 0%. There's a lot of
0% plus 7,000 off. Guys, you have to look around. You know, you have to look around.
There's a lot of people making a lot of statements about the car, buying cars,
that I just don't think they're looking around long enough. And the other thing is,
there's a lot of incentives that I think purposely aren't being put out the way they once were.
But I've heard a lot of 0%, 72 months, 0%, 60 months, 0%, 7K off, 8K off. It's softening.
Not crashing. Okay. Not crashing. So don't take it out of context. But there's a lot of stuff
coming back into the market. You're going to see lease deals, I think, tick up in the second half
of the year. I think we're going to see a lot of the lease deals come back there.
You have been talking about this for two or three weeks now. So I thought to myself,
I'm going to make a note. I'm going to check back periodically. Have you looked at recent
lease deals from Tesla to Yoda? Because they're great. They are great. Yeah, the lease deals.
And for those that don't know, lease deals show you the softening. So if you go back pre 2020,
you know, March of 2020, basically, right? That's when kind of everything popped off.
Lease deals were plenty for 20 years, right? Because that's the way you move cars, right?
You move cars during these times. What you're also going to see is you're going to see a lot of
fleet sales, right? You're going to see a lot of those, you know, which would be sort of on the
commercial side of the business. Commercial salespeople will be pushing to fleets. I'll get
calls for my company where people say if you buy five of them, we'll do them at this deal.
You know, you can do this thing. So this all comes down to pointing to a softening market.
And the reason leasing wasn't that big the last five years is they didn't need to do it,
right? They just didn't need to do it. Right. So because you have a lot of experience with
Tesla, do you remember what Tesla lease deals were recently? If not, that's no big deal. I
wanted to just bring up what's going on right now. How does this sound to you? And if you're
listening, I know a lot of people that have Teslas, they love them. I've never had one,
no interest in it, but this was so interesting. I was like, huh, 2026, model three, rear wheel drive,
10,000 mile allowance, $299. I mean, that's a no Brent. What's it? What's do it signing? 34.
You got to put 3400 down. So what you're basically paying $3,600 a year
for how long is it? At least three years, 36 months. Okay. So you got 30,000 miles,
3600, 72, 10, eight, you're all in roughly 14,000 bucks for, for three years.
I mean, that's less than 500 a month. Yeah, it's not, not terrible.
Guys, the thing on leases, let me, let me tell you how to not lose on a lease.
Don't go over the mileage. For sure. Triple your mileage. Don't do that.
So if you know, Hey, I drive 7,000 miles a year at 10,000 is a no brainer. You may even be able
to get a 7,500 mile lease and get another break, but I doubt Tesla does that. I haven't really
checked into it. Don't get dings and scratches and stuff like that. They'll ding you on trade-in.
For anybody that's never released a car, these are all the gotcha points. Yeah. Yeah.
The gotcha points really are damage to the car, interior and going over your mileage.
They are going to go over it and I have some customers that have done Tesla lease deals before
and we just go over it one time before they trade it in and make sure that there's nothing they
can be dinged on. And if they have a good store manager or whatever they call it, distribution
manager at that place, they'll go over it with a fine tooth comb and that, that goes BMWs like that,
Mercedes is like that, Chevy, anybody's like that because they, they want the extra money.
So just so we're clear on leases, don't let the car get all dinged up. Don't let the interior get
destroyed and also do not go over your mileage. Yeah. Because it goes from like, let's just say
it's 25 cents to like 75 cents of a mile after that. Yeah. You can look at that fine print of
going over the mileage and if you think you're close, just go ahead and say, what's it to lease
for 12,000 miles a year or whatever it is. Now, so that was that, right? I was like, wow, that's
really good. And then the other one that really stuck out is Toyota's RAV4. The RAV4 is such a
sought after platform and they're all, I think, I think they're all hybrids at this point, but
RAV4, which is the new Grand Highlander size, basically, yeah, dude, they're big. They're big.
319 for 36 months for their le base model, 39 99 do it signing. And they have the Toyota care for
two years, you have no maintenance essentially. That's a hell of a deal. I mean, here's the thing,
that's really every lease. I mean, if you do a lease deal, you want to make sure you're not on
the hook for any maintenance. I forgot to leave that one out that you have no maintenance
that falls on you. Look, this this this kind of stuff speaks to for those of you that don't own
a business leasing a car through your business is is really powerful tax wise. Yes. So that's why
you see a lot of people get into big lease deals on, you know, Range Rover, right, instead of buying
it, they could buy take the sexual 179 right off some do that some lease them.
So that's what a lot of people escalate drill big on this, you know, where you can either take the
big right off and pay for it or you can, you know, lease it and just write off the payments.
These lease deals being this aggressive tells you
they not only see what's coming, they know what's here. Yeah, so again, if you're looking, go check
that out. If you haven't considered leasing, maybe you're looking at trading or selling or you need
to pick something up because you need another car and you don't have one and you've been trying to
do it with one car or what have you, look at lease deals, find a platform or just go to the
manufacturers and find your local lease deals and consider it. I've never would. And I think people
need to understand this was sort of our hobby before we ever even did a podcast. It's true stuff
on the internet. Yeah, some of you need to get a little bit more comfortable with that. That's a
I'm saying that as like a positive encouragement. Yeah. Hey, I'm in the market for a car. Take the
next 90 days and just at night, got the game on, got the fight on, you know, your wife's making
you watch something you don't want to watch, get the laptop out, go through this stuff because
that's kind of where all of your options come from. The options don't come from walking into
a dealer uneducated and saying, I hope they give me a good deal. So this part of the
the experiment of buying a car, I think people need to get a little more comfortable with.
Yeah. And while you're at it, doing that, that's a great suggestion. Go through and find all of
the things that might be phantom costs for financing versus leasing, incorporate your gas,
incorporate or unless it's an EV, incorporate your insurance, incorporate everything that you
would the maintenance of whatever the mileage you're driving and calculate it down to the mile.
If you know my round trip is 66 miles and this that and the other do the whole math and then
just compare side to side. One will stand out more than the other. Agreed. It's good. I that's
you got to get comfortable goofing around. Yes. And looking around and not limiting
yourself. Now, if you're an enthusiast looking for a specific car, this has nothing to do with you.
No, unless unless you're just like, you know what, maybe I do want to try it on EV for a little while
or if you're an enthusiast, you guys also need to get comfortable searching nationwide. You need
to get comfortable. That's the biggest market doing the nationwide thing. You probably encourage
more people to go nationwide than I've ever heard people being comfortable going nationwide.
Yeah, it's it's with that, I want to say this, we've seen a lot of shipping issues.
And again, we got to go to your heritage here. A lot of these are crossing the border.
It's true. You know, we just got to call it like it is here.
Absolutely. I encourage it. Yeah. Yeah. We, you know, we make a lot of those types of jokes privately.
So what we want to do here is make sure you go with a known carrier. If you're worried,
there are carriers that have been around 50 years, 60 years, they're going to be a little more
expensive. I understand that. Put your mind at ease, because I'm okay putting it on a hot shot
truck doesn't mean that's what you should do. Yeah, which is what you did with the LX, right?
Yeah, yeah. So I'm very comfortable. I get that you might not be then get the most known name,
known three names, get your bids from them, get the get the vehicle on those carriers. Okay,
I'm not saying that is going to prevent all issues. But those carriers have insurance,
you know, they're doing things on a certain level, just make sure if you're uncomfortable,
this isn't the time to save money because you're not you're just not comfortable.
Yeah, the two $300 you're going to save isn't going to be worth it to be honest.
And definitely won't be worth it if it ends up in Mexico. When Nick got his LX
hot shot it to him, he knew that I'd had hot shot it for many years. He's like, Hey,
your cousin just dropped off my LX. I was like, Oh, brother. Yeah. And by the way,
was here very quickly, but also here unprofessionally. And not exactly we were supposed to be for being
honest. Yeah, yeah, not exactly where we're supposed. So I'm okay with all that. I can handle all that.
And I'm good with with how this all works out. But if you are unsure, go with the most
known brand brand names. And like you said, don't try to save the two $300. You're just
not comfortable. Make yourself comfortable with going with the more reputable people.
Hey, there you go. If you're not comfortable, make yourself comfortable. That's some Goggins
shirt right there. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, where's Goggins been?
That's true. Yeah, I haven't seen him in a while. Last I heard you might have had an injury. No,
no, no, no. Cam Haynes, I think had a big injury on a recent hike or something.
You know, we we get lucky here. Goggins is always out out in the neighborhood here.
So just yelling at you from your backyard. What up, Goggins?
Who's going to carry the boats? Yeah, exactly. Not me, sir. I got it. I got the I got stuff.
Yeah, yeah, I got it. I got a vehicle. Yeah. All right, I got a crazy one out of left field.
Are you familiar with Capricorn, the hypercar builder? I wasn't too familiar with him.
Instead, I started until I started seeing this, this whole Zagato thing. I want to pull it up
for you. So it's a I think an Italian supercar company that's making these and I'll get it
right in a second, everybody. Don't worry. Don't come at me in the clips. It's basically a 900
horsepower V8 Ford V8 under this. And it is unbelievable. One of 19. There's already one
claimed from an unknown purchaser. It's going to be that means the Middle East.
It's going to be yeah, 100%. It's going to be debuted at an Italian car show. I just bought
one Habibi. Dude, Habibi. Did you get yours? Wow, 3.3 is that what that says? 3.3. Yeah,
yeah. For manual transmission. I'm not going to lie. Looks like it's worth 3.3. That looks incredible.
Yeah, I don't I don't like the color match wheels. No. That looks awesome. Yeah, so the
Zagato. Basically, they took an F8 hood and go wing doors and then basically Ferrari body lines
in a way. Let's keep going. Look at this. Look at that. Got a bin fiber.
Got a bin fiber. That's how you know you're getting an upcharge. Got a bin fiber. Wow,
that's a lot of red. Yeah. Might have to break that up a little. Might have to break that one up
a little. I gotta tell you, that looks badass. Yeah, so this one is still considered a prototype,
so it won't be one of the 19. But yeah, this is really, really cool. The hypercar prototype
already has an unnamed owner, which we mentioned, who commissioned it. It's kind of along the lines
of a Jesko. How funny, Gordon Murray. Didn't we just use that name together earlier? Yeah, yeah.
Holy dude, life's not real. I swear. Yeah, man, that's awesome. That's crazy. Look,
all of us are probably not in the market for this. No, really? But Jesko and
the Gordon Murray stuff, it interests me a little bit, but this would interest me a lot more.
Click on the T50, that hyperlink right there. I did actually. It's supposed to take me to it,
but it didn't, so what I'm going to do is do this and then I'm going to show it to you again.
But I think that looks awesome. And it's so cool that they're doing manual.
3.3 is a little steep. That's very steep. That looks good. That looks good too. That's very Jaguar-esque.
It looks really good. That's badass. That's very cool. Yeah, look, these like, I guess,
are not one off because it's 20 of these and 25 of that. But yeah, man, that's awesome. I don't care.
The cost at this point, something cool is happening. That's a good combination of blue and
black. Look at that. That shifter is so badass. Yeah, man. I'm glad this kind of stuff gets built
just for interest. I'm more interested. I'm not going to sit here and talk a lot of hypercar.
That's not what you and I really do. But this is, I think, hypercar in the way that many of us
would want to experience it. Just imagine these knobs and cars today, like something you can turn,
something you can push. Yep. That's all right. Go on. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, the hypercars
are going to so many of the more hybrid type of stuff. But I mean, having a V12 in this,
I think that's what it says. Let me see where we are. 2 door, 3.1. Yes, a V12. Yeah, man, I'd
love that. That's awesome. I'm glad. I think these are the type of things
we're going to have to start celebrating. Not because many of us are going to buy it. I
understand that. But it's cool to see people realizing that, you know, horsepower has become
almost a punchline at this point, right? Yeah, we had somebody make a comment about that,
like every consumer car. Yeah, it's just a punchline. I mean, it doesn't really mean anything.
So now if you can build these cars with driver experience and, you know, maybe not get to the
exact horsepower that everybody's talking about all the time, I think it's awesome, you know? And
I still think companies like Aston, Maserati, this is, to me, the projects they need to undertake,
not necessarily if they need to build a $3.1 million car, but, you know, build a $290,000
driving experience just to get people interested. It's kind of been my point the last couple years.
Like there's a lot of these brands that are just not doing well. And you go, hey, man, just kind
of like put a manual on something, show us that you understand what's going on. Maybe you'll start
getting some buzz around your brand. Something Jaguar could have done besides this abomination
that they've done. It's like, you've got to give some of these hypercar builders who are just going,
yeah, man, we're just going to do a manual. You know, I really hope that their recent, which we
started the show right as those debacles were kind of taking place, was just an effort to purge
that company of all of the bad idea havers that they had, so that they can go back to some sort
of roots. I know I get it, and everything has to go back to complete tradition, but that car is,
or that manufacturer is one of the most traditional cars that anyone could have ever pointed to and
said, that looks amazing, or that is amazing. Yep, I agree with you. You're, you could never point
to it and go, the electrical system is going to work, but you definitely could have pointed to it and
said, they did design well all the way up until this point. I mean, so to just not do design well
out of the blue, I think was one of the more shocking things that ever happened in car building.
You go, you've built beautiful cars for 100 years. On the 101st year, you just lost your mind.
That's why the life expectancy is still around 75. It's like, beyond that, everyone starts to just
lose their mind. Can't have that. As we've seen in many prominent positions. Very much so.
We got a little, another surprise from Nissan yesterday, as a matter of fact. I know they've
been in the news a lot with the Tarant. Hey, people are, people are going to lose your,
lose their mind with your Nissan talk. Sorry, but I mean, you can't seem to get enough of it
internet. I mean, that clip is still going hundreds of likes and views and comments even a day.
You like it. So don't pretend like you don't. So we got a, we got a special frontier
exclusive debut, I guess yesterday. There's no pricing for it, but there is a new Nissan Frontier
Sport Package, which is going to be like a budget friendly off-roader. And I love that they use
that title when we don't have pricing for it yet. Yeah, you might want to put the budget in there.
Yeah, but this is going to be the 27 sport, you know, off-road capable Frontier below the Pro
and the Pro 4 FX. Pro 4X. Yes, Pro.
Isn't FX the 4X? You're right. Pro X or Pro 4X might be.
This kind of looks, speaking of Ford, it looks like the sport from the Ford truck right there.
It's the same, same graphics. That is exact same graphics. That's so funny you said that.
That interior looks kind of cool. I like it. Yes, it looks good. That is so well integrated.
God, that looks like a Nintendo Switch actually. Yeah, good call. I would say
we have to keep, I got to see Nissan perform about this. You know, I got to, I got to start
getting some news that somebody found this and they paid 38 grand or whatever budget friendly
means because like you said, you put budget friendly with no budget. But I, I hope, I just hope
because I know all of us just want these car companies to operate in the real world and
start to understand some of the issues out there. Pricing is obviously an issue. You got to take
that out. What do you mean? That sport right there, that's egregious behavior. I mean, they could
have done better stitching. This is clearly off centered and a little bit. Yeah, I'm going to say
this. It doesn't need to be there. Okay. There's nothing they could have done to make that cool.
Let's remove it. I like stitching. I'll tell you who would be all over this stitching. You GT3 guys,
you love the colors. This is very GT3S with the yellow stitching. People are going to lose their
mind. His email is Rob at. No, no, no. He's inserts too, by the way. This is very
Porsche. And it looks good. It does. To me, budget friendly for this type.
Are you looking at 40? I was going to say 37 sounds right, like 36, 9, 36, 5.
The front looks all right too. Yeah, I like it. We're getting way too many good teasers to wear.
If none of this pans out, we're never talking about Nissan again. You know, all of our Nissan
buddies, I know some of you listen. You know, is this stuff actually happening? Yeah, for real.
Is it happening, Captain? Or is this just like a Psyop that we're going to, you know,
tell you all this cool stuff's happening and shit never does? If you say something to Psyop,
I'm going to probably agree with you because so many things sound and feel like Psyop.
You know, you don't blame them. I mean, just learn from Elon. Just say all this stuff's
going to happen. And he's given good lease deals right now. So I need to relax.
We got the Roadster. It's going to be out in a week. It's like 10 years later. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. And another nine years from now. Yeah. So yeah, I like that. I really do. This is
really good. That could be for those of you that don't want to pay the Tacoma tax. This is
something to think about if it's all priced where it should be. And like this could beat the Maverick
if it's priced. They made the egregious going to the same metal stamper where they got frontier
stamped in the tailgate. That's got to be abolished. If I was in Congress, that would be abolished,
just so we're clear. You would take acts of Congress to take the stamped off the tailgate?
They'd be like, what do you think about the war? I'd be like, stop. I'm here to talk about people
stamping stuff in the tailgates. I didn't even notice. Look at the front. Yeah. Look at under
the screen frontier. Can't have it. They went into the Sequoia and were like, hey, what's the most
obnoxious thing you guys did in here? Oh, you stamped Toyota on everything. Let's go ahead and do
that with the frontier. Man, overall, we went through a lot of pictures in the second tab that
was in there. I give this like a solid 8.5. Yeah, for the price point. Hell yeah. I agree. If it's
under 40, this is a nine. Yeah. The question is, does that frontier right there on the middle
console look raised where I can peel that off? Then I'll definitely be in on it. It is definitely
raised, but you know you're going to have some. I mean, I guess you could fill it in. Can we just
build a business where we just make tailgates that take Chevrolet, take frontier off of them,
take all that stuff off and just say, hey, here's your new tailgate. I would love that if they
didn't make them so expensive, but all the gadgets that are in modern tailgates make tailgates
unbelievably expensive. Shout out again to my boy Brian, who's been dealing with the Tundra
tailgate issue from the day he bought the new Tundra. Toyota never has issues, by the way.
Also has a cracked piece of plastic on the driver's seat. What's the issue with the tailgate?
There's all kinds of sensors and malfunctions. And by the way, no issue. No issue. Not a one off,
but Toyota doesn't have issues. No one's ever complained about it. I had no idea.
Yeah. Well, I mean, they don't have issues. I think Brian's might be the only one. You never
have to change the oil. This guy is lying. His one buddy has issues. No one else has issues.
No, no. The dealership knows it's an issue. The manufacturer knows it's an issue.
All right. Before we land the plan, I got to give one more story here for Nick. We don't really,
we're not going to get it in America, but it's still worth mentioning that Volkswagen has revealed
the first EV to wear the GTI badge. Fantastic, Volkswagen. This is you. I mean, this is your
folks. This really is. I think that looks great, though. Yeah. That's a cool VW bug to drive around.
It's not a bug. It is a Polo. Polo GTI. Oh, sorry. The wheels suck. Yeah,
buttons back on the inside, which is fantastic. They also have that huge screen in the middle.
I know. It's not integrated into anything. Look at how small the dash is compared to this
fucking screen next to it. God. Your folks are betraying you, dude. Oh, they betrayed me years
ago. Right to your face, too. Right to your face. That's why I keep looking at that car like,
what am I going to do with you? Let me tell you this, like the insert on the seats, though.
Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah. Do you really? I don't know. Sometimes I don't know if you're
being serious. Yeah, no, no. Classic. I like it. Do you like the plaid of like some of the older
cars that would have the plaid? Yeah, absolutely. Love it. Yeah. Hounds tooth, all that shit.
Hounds tooth. There you go. The word was escaping me. I'm all in. Nice. I like that. No question.
Oh, here's one. I was trying to pull this up as we were actually starting the show. I couldn't
find the video, but apparently Ram teased a TRX, a new TRX, but it was lowered more like a street
truck. Yeah, let me, oh, that reaction to your face is priceless. I wish I would have had something
playing with it. Hey, let's bring back the TRX and screw back the screw up the unveiling.
Ram teases what happens to be a new high powered. I thought he said that I thought
Kineska said this doesn't sell. Yeah, not only do you say that, but he's guaranteed no street trucks.
Performance street trucks. Hey, Tim, it's Nick here. Aren't you in the meetings?
Let me see it real quick. Jesus Christ, that didn't come through. Hey, was that welcome to the
jungle? It was. Dude, that one was going to get a ban from YouTube right there. Let me stop this
right quick. Can I get over to it? Because I didn't see the video, but regardless, I mean,
you're not a big street truck guy anyway, right? No, I mean, I think they're cool,
but I'm not in the market for them. And I think TRX is a platform.
The only thing they ever had to fix on TRX is it wasn't that enjoyable on the street.
So I thought they would kind of attack that part of the fixing of it,
not just go over new stuff and put a street truck out, especially since Tim Kineska says
they weren't doing it. I mean, like pretty emphatically said it. He did. Yeah.
Oh, that's all we got. Oh, wait. So here's the truth. This seems like
this was just for a video. Do you honestly think they're going to put a street truck out
if he said they weren't? Well, he's not really at the helm of this particular thing right now,
right? Any more, he's kind of gone past it. Yeah, he's in a big boy's seat now. So he's
getting the private jet treatment, I think. Yeah. So if somebody wants to present to him
an idea that doesn't get blamed back on him because it wasn't... He's like, yeah, why not?
Sure, why not? Why'd you put me on this email chain? Exactly. I mean, I'm here for it. Whoever's
pushing this up the ladder, if it gets some sort of... I mean, how are you not in Lobo territory
looking around? Is it because you already have a Raptor? Personally? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't think I didn't think about it. I was like, can I justify a single cab truck? I'm like, why
would I do that? I was like, we're not having two trucks. Like, there's no... Yeah, that would kind
of put you in like, you know, you'd be full on at that point. You'd be Home Depot, standing out
there waiting for day laborers. I mean, you'd be full... I would find excuses to go work outside
when I had no damn well. I don't want to be outside. Yeah, yeah, you'd be like, man, it's hot in
summer. But, you know, if we're being for real, a lowered TRX with single cab truck would look
insane. Yeah, how many driveways in your city could even house a Raptor and a TRX lowered
street truck? Well, here's the thing. I'm going to need to find a new driveway. That's kind of
the issue I'm coming to now. So we'll see what happens in the next six months to a year. I don't
are off of it altogether, meaning online, in the real world, which is what we encourage. Go out
there and do stuff. You don't have to film. One of my favorite comments from people is,
can we normalize not documenting every single second of your stupid life?
I love that comment. Those things crack me up. Yeah, space becomes an issue. Obviously,
you know, I have a multi-year plan here that I'm going to be trying to get unlimited space.
Love unlimited space. But for all of you with this addiction, space becomes an issue.
I'm taking the knowledge that Nick and I have been talking about on the show and trying to say,
okay, how can I get in and out? Because all I really want to do, and this is part of the addiction,
is experience it like you want to hit the dragon, you don't want to keep chasing the dragon.
That was the best thing about flipping vehicles for me was like, I'll drive this one around for a
while. Uh-oh, check engine light came on. Let's get it to the mechanic and get this sold.
That was kind of like the thing that was what I was known for. And look, that's still my favorite
part of what I get to do was just around an insane singer build, insane singer build that I can't
share that boy. Nice. That's a whole nother level. But I will say
the for all of you wanting to play in this sandbox and experience stuff,
buying the car right becomes very important. I mean, it's the most important going to take a bath
if you don't buy it right. Now, that doesn't mean don't experience anything because you're
worried about taking a bath. But getting in and out in sort of a 12 to 24 month period
becomes really the game because you get the experience. You're like, oh, I got it.
And like my E 90 right now, this is the longest I've ever owned something. No, how long have you had it?
Probably close to three years. Oh, wow. Be like three years in July. I think I think that's the
right timeline. So like two to three years. But normally this vehicle in my arsenal would have
been long gone. Wow, I didn't know that. I know you only kept it that short of time,
which makes sense. But what? Yeah, I mean, I was sort of a
12 18 month guy. You know, I love that in theory. I love that as well. But I'm glad that you
actually did that. Yeah, yeah, it's it becomes some of it is for me right now. Really what I said
earlier. I know that this is probably the last manual that I really wanted to own. Like this
was something I wanted to own that I'm going to be this excited about the rest of it would just be
I bought it because I like it. You know, this is like a platform I really wanted to own. And
there's probably a lot of me that doesn't want to give that up. And I have no reason to. I mean,
all my cars are paid for for those that are new listeners. I don't have a reason to get in and
out of this car. But if I had some more space, I would be in the market for some stuff. I don't
even know that I would sell the 90 to get into the market right now. Space is becoming my issue.
And Rob knows some behind the scenes things I'm trying to do in the next 24 to 36 months.
I'm trying to make it so space is not an issue. That's awesome. And I can see that too. Like
having the LX having the BMW and then whatever the third thing is, then that becomes the thing
you kind of cycle maybe in and out. Yeah, and that sounds good. But then I'll end up keeping
something I like and then it'll be on another. I just want the option right now. And just so
we're clear. I mean, I could store most of this stuff at the shop and that becomes more of a hassle
though. I mean, yeah, yeah. Well, so that's my problem at the shop. So I could essentially buy
like two or three more cars. But then every time I needed to do something in the shop,
I'd be backing out four or five cars and I had to move cars around. This is real first world
problem. 100%. I was about to say that. That's why I'm that's why I'm heading this off at the past.
I am really trying to make it so
you know, just to let everybody in. So I have a property that whatever I want to do,
I can do it literally walk out my front door, do it. That's that's the ultimate goal because
you can't really do this on the level that I want to do it with with any type of space
restrictions. Yeah, right. Because you need to also realize that some of these cars
ordering parts and doing stuff like you need to have space to deal with all that.
And that's where where I'm all me personally where I'm ultimately trying to get to is
where we bring you guys in and it's just basically a guy in his shop
owning stuff that he's always wanted to own. Not as a car collection type of thing. I just don't
that doesn't interest me as somebody's been in that world. That's a real headache.
But if I could own four to six of the things I wanted to own
and cycle through a couple of those a year, take some lessons from my boy,
Hoovey. Love you, Hoovey. I've never hung out with the guy. But he to me is like,
that's that's the epitome of it, right, where he just like buys escalades from back in the day.
And he's like, this is awesome. And so that's kind of where I want to get to.
But, you know, for everybody that that that understands all of this, like we're talking
about with you, why aren't you getting the Lobo? Why aren't you getting it?
Really more than anything, space becomes the confining factor of it.
It is, it is. It's already like, I'm going to pick up the kids really don't want to take the
Raptor doesn't make sense. Move your car over because the way it's parked. And it's just like,
it sounds so silly. But also I got an idea. What we're going to do is we're going to combine
the idea of JRE and the idea of the NWO and create NWE, the Nick Walters experience.
We're going to have that branding. We're going to have the whole music to sweet. Exactly.
Oh, I can't wait. Hey, for everybody that doesn't get that reference, that was an NWO
reference. Love it. Every time I see like a Scott Hall video or Kevin, I just have to
watch it even if I've seen it before. Got to watch it. Absolutely. And by the way,
one of the ones I never get anything sting related. Count me in. Yeah, dude. Yeah,
those. I mean, nostalgia will always sell. But if you were there, you will understand why that
era of nostalgia for wrestling will inevitably always be the best ever. Yep. And did you watch
the new Hogan doc? No, you. I got to save. Okay. Oh, I'm gonna have to take some flights here,
going into the middle of the year. So I'm already getting my queue lined up, you know,
and then I'll get on a flight that has no Wi-Fi. You just know it.
So I'm gonna have to download them before I get on the plane to make sure that doesn't happen.
Again, first world problems we understand. But I know a lot of you guys get on flights.
When you get on there and the Wi-Fi is all screwed up, you're like, Jesus, how's this?
And I'm told AI is going to take over the world. We can't get Wi-Fi on a plane.
That is so weird. Why aren't there? What is it? Space link or what's a Starling Starling
space link? There's Starlings everywhere. All right. This is a really fun episode. Everybody,
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All right, guys.
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Hosts kick off by unpacking how “car culture” creators explain the buying process—and why viewers sometimes read it as defending dealers or manufacturers. They pivot into market reality: aggressive lease and financing promos, how to avoid lease penalties, and why used-car prices (like cheap Cayennes and rising M3s) often come with catch-up work. The conversation also hits TRX “street truck” ideas, manual-transmission value, and a few specific deal examples (S500, Taycan, and a black-on-black manual SS).
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