1000th Podcast Episode from COTA Tower

We started our podcast, The Card of Bate, in August of 2014. In the past 11 years, we've done 999 episodes, helping listeners find the perfect card. Along the way, we've led road trips, adventures, and built a community beyond anything we imagine. So for our 1000th episode, we wanted to do something special, something big.

One of our patrons suggested driving cars owned by our audience, and we took that idea and made it into a 5,000 mile, two-week road trip of driving, filming, and celebrating.

In the middle of it all, we hosted a two-day track day at Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas, which leads us 22 stories above the track, to the first ever podcast from the tower at Coda, our 1000th podcast.

I'm going to stand here for a second, because holy crap. We are 22 stories up on the top of the Coda tower. We have had an amazing track day, and just to make it extra spicy, before we did this 1000th podcast live from here, all of the tech decided to not work.

So we had to leave you all the steps. I'm sorry about being late, but we're here. I'm coming down from that stress ball. But we had an unbelievable track day here. Cardings still going on. That's cool.

An unbelievable track day here. We had no incidents. Coda loved having us. You and I are at the top of Coda tower with people paying attention, which is even weirder this period.

People are still coming off of the elevator, and we have set the record for the amount of chairs. Coda tells us in the top of the Coda tower. So I think we're at 39 close to 40 chairs. There's also been a concert up here, but we are proud owners of being the first podcast live stream from the top of the Coda tower. We're very proud of that.

And I can't thank you all enough. It's not awesome.

Thank you guys for being here. Thank you guys.

You know that part of your life, you think, how did I get here? What sequence of events led to this moment?

And it's been an 11 year podcast journey, a thousand episodes, and we're so glad that you are watching. And I am not going to go over the glass. I'm not going to go over the edge.

Well, while you were going to lay, we were still doing setup. People were putting your chair on top of the glass. I know it's fine. It's fine. It's pretty awesome. There are chairs over here. And there's a chair back here if those people are standing on the ship.

Okay, those that are those those that are off camera are want to be even farther from the glass. Yeah, that's working.

What I'm also amazed about is we even have a podcast 1000 wrist band. We do. I didn't get one. Am I allowed to be here? Yeah, we said we suck you in early.

Yeah, so 1000 podcasts is an absurd amount of the two of us talking my wife and son have not listened every podcast because they hear a lot of me talking.

Thank you guys. There have been people I have met from nationwide that have come here in some cases just for the podcast and I find that difficult to comprehend.

Yeah, this is such a culmination of events and stress and fun a lot along the way and I'm going to start off with a question from Derek or friend Derek Miller because you asked on discord about how does it feel to have affected people's lives like we have and it doesn't occur to me.

It hasn't sunk in that people are listening and watching it like you do. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Thanks, go watch it. People traveled to be here. I mean, yeah, Derek asked this question and I'll be honest, it was.

It was sobering because I want all of you guys to understand that I hold this very loosely and I am astonished that people hang out.

I'm astonished that people listen that they watch people were watching earlier. We have old YouTube videos, probably a mistake playing in the code of code of room.

Everybody's like, you look so young, you look really young, man, which is a fantastic insult.

Thanks.

Yeah, so anyway, this is what happens over time. I'm sorry, but no, I really, I just, I never take it the granted.

I am astonished every time we release a video and it gets a viewer's count with a comment in it.

That's pretty astonishing. So thank you guys for being here. We have various questions that you've all listed.

You know, you made the comment, Derek, that friendships have been formed out of this show.

To be honest with you, that is the coolest thing.

The fact that people that have watched this show or listened to this show have met other people that they feel are like minded, that's really cool.

We take this pilgrimage trip every year and we go over to the ring and spa and we have those really good partners over there.

And they say to us every year, the people you bring are the coolest.

I don't have control over that, but apparently tell that to everyone.

They may, but they do seem to like it.

But I think, I will say this, I think you and I have a vibe that is not a bro vibe.

We have a non ego vibe.

Yeah, because that's just the way we operate.

And thankfully, I feel like that has drawn similar people that we want to hang out with and that resonates when we go places.

And it's cool to see so many faces here that I've seen at other events.

And people that are like, oh, I listened to you because my buddy listened to you.

And I've listened to you for longer than he has and a crazy story is going on.

Well, the other part of that is that we can't tell anybody anything new because they're like, yeah, that's true.

I heard you already on the podcast.

After a thousand podcasts, we're done.

How about this story?

Yeah, I heard that too.

I'm like, okay, so what are we going to talk about?

There are no inside jokes.

Exactly.

That's actually the craziest thing is we'll go somewhere and we'll start an inside joke at the first of the cross table.

Who I feel like I just met is not going to be like, yeah, I know the end of that story.

But what does happen is conversation turns to cars immediately.

And that is the through line.

It is friendships.

It is people.

It's you guys.

And I realized.

I was thinking months ago.

All right.

Podcast 1000.

What are we going to talk about?

Are we going to have a special guest?

Are we going to?

What are we going to do?

And then, you know, the top of the code of tower became available.

And we thought, that's pretty special.

And I said, I don't want to go out there.

I don't want to go out there.

Yeah, I don't want to.

Okay.

There's the floor.

Yeah, there it is.

And I thought, okay, do we have guests?

Do we do something that is out of character for us just to celebrate?

And the answer is no.

It's to have you guys here.

And I can't think enough.

It's just.

It's it's that through line.

So people start talking about cars.

And the conversations last into the night.

And then, you know, what restaurant or bar are we going to?

Totally.

And the conversations continue.

And it's continued at this hooked on driving track day.

We're very thrilled that people have come from all over the nation to come to this day.

But it seems this is truly that, that meshing, you know, audiences and track drivers.

Some people have heard of the show.

Other people haven't.

And that's totally fine.

Yeah.

It's, it's not offensive in any way.

I just, I'm glad to talk to people.

I had to spread that.

I had a conversation earlier with a guy who's here and his wife who's here as well.

Tolerating him and us.

And.

And said that when they go on road trips, she falls asleep with us out of our voices, which we've heard before.

But then he wakes her up and goes, hey, honey, let me, let me, let me turn this part up.

That's not about cars.

So it happens.

I mean, you know, we can say on the podcast that we start about cars and go to everything else because that is true.

It's a fantastic through line that we feel like is not religion, not politics, not volatile.

And we can get into some of the big stuff of life because I feel like cars to what you're saying.

Cars are universal.

But they are.

They're non biased in many ways, you know, and you can get into other topics from there.

So I just like that, that connectivity.

We've got so many little questions that I wrote down.

I have a sheer, just sheer curiosity questions.

Is there anybody here that's been listening not gone back been listening since the first episode?

One.

That's not bad.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

It's more than one.

That's more than one.

That's more than zero.

That's worth listening to.

Last time I heard that was like, oh, wow.

So here we are.

Yeah, that's good.

There was a comment here about in 2006.

Six.

What were you going to do?

We shot the half hour TV pilot.

Okay.

Yeah.

Right at the end of 2006.

Did post no seven.

Shopped it.

No eight, etc.

Okay.

We drove.

We rented both of these.

A brand new 2006 boxer.

And at that time, brand new 2006 Lotus Elise.

And in that piece, we are both just kind of little excited kids that we can't believe we're getting the opportunity to drive these cars at all.

And somebody asked people rented these two.

Exactly.

Those fools.

Have they met us?

Exactly.

Right.

So, but the question is, okay, let's go back to oh six and let's jump to now.

Obviously, it was pre-podcast, but you and I just spent a track day at a track or a conversation that Lisa Howard charge up.

And we had my Amira and your GT4, which are the worlds above those.

It's astonishing to me that that's a thing, but but people asked, how is our perception of cars changed?

And how have we maybe changed as drivers?

I think it's certainly changed with technology.

You've seen all kinds of new technologies being invented, but what hasn't gone out of style is people's love for lightweight fun cars.

And I still maintain that manufacturers need to keep building those, manufacturers, if you're listening ever in the future.

And you're curious, this is your time.

I feel like, yeah, manufacturers need to keep even even at a loss, almost at a loss.

Well, yeah, some of them are.

But what's going to continue is people going back to those old cars.

So cars are not going away.

We're not done with them.

We're not using a few years decade.

We're not done.

Well, it's happening already.

I mean, we're seeing all the old cars, 20 years ago cars are the ones that are going up.

Yeah.

Some of that's nostalgia and moving through, you know, the history of people.

But still, it's very cool.

I was thinking about the fact that I think over the time of the show, I've become more obsessed with steering to you.

You have almost to the point of comparing every car to Lotus.

Yes.

Which is, you said it to me years ago, you said not every car can be in a league.

Not every car is a Lotus.

Right.

And sometimes when I really want to go on a rant, I just go, you know, this is right.

Stupid SUV is not like a Lotus.

Yeah, that is true.

That's very true.

That's one of the main things I thought of.

It's been different in my experience.

But even though you had me others.

Hmm.

It's been cars are like skis.

Cars are like mountain bikes.

Land that plane.

Because you and I, we go mountain biking.

By the way, we have Monday morning meetings on the mountain on mountain bikes.

They're already jealous.

Stop.

Well, I didn't say I didn't say I didn't say it for that reason.

I said because you know, we're like, wow, these skis.

Am I this good of a skier?

I know.

I got better at mountain biking.

Like, I could take that faster or different or something.

Yeah.

And that's what's happened to cars.

Of course, by virtue of technology.

Sure.

By virtue of tires.

Manufacturers continuing to push on things.

And I see the mechanical things that that through line.

You know, continually getting better.

Just, you know, companies doing skis, companies building mountain bikes.

Cars are cars are right there for us too.

I feel like something that we joked about doing.

And I do want to try to catch you out with this a little bit.

I've got some for you.

Giving each other.

Giving each other weird car debates that are based on.

I'm sorry, buddy, that are based on people.

That we don't know have not written in.

That we think are interesting for for the other one to tackle.

They are in my case, they're from history.

And they're related to design and art.

Okay.

So, if you were alive today.

What would DaVinci drive?

Oh.

Oh, that's tough.

I'll give you a minute.

It's fine.

That's what you have the spot.

That's what we're doing here.

DaVinci.

Yeah.

DaVinci.

No.

I don't get to get harder actually, but keep going.

I am, I am not convinced he would drive a car.

Okay.

Based on his sketches, based on his love for.

Helicopters and.

Worling devices that were a through line throughout all of DaVinci sketches.

Okay.

So I think.

Something very stripped down.

Yeah.

That's the basic.

Adam.

And Ariel.

That's interesting.

Where you can see the parts moving.

I see that.

That's good.

You can see parts because he sketched parts a lot.

And wanted to understand why they work together.

Your Emira has the shift.

Yeah.

Mechanism is visible.

That.

That kind of thinking and Adam.

Ariel Adam is where I'm going with that because it's deconstructivist.

Okay.

And I think that's, that's where he would, would go.

Ariel Adam is my answer.

That's excellent.

I really like that.

You're stumping me now, I guess.

Okay.

So I chose three.

I'm going to give you a choice.

You can tackle all three if you want.

All right.

I've got two more for you.

Oh, you do.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

No worries.

Well, I'm going to start with somebody who is still alive.

But these all three of the people that I have chosen for you are pioneers in their field.

Okay.

And the first one has to do with all three of them relate to the things you love.

The first one is filmmaking.

Okay.

And it's somebody you mentioned.

You have mentioned quite a bit.

It's James Cameron.

Okay.

And James has completely changed how every filmmaker approaches their projects.

But also he's an adventure and an explorer.

Hmm.

And he has been to the bottom of the Mariana trench by himself.

On purpose.

When you become a billionaire, you just start doing things like that.

It's less about having the money and just, I guess, what's Tuesday like?

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

Let's try something.

I think it's constantly trying to take information from the world to make films better.

And I know that's what you do.

When you meet people, I've had friends who design shoes.

And they'll shake somebody's hands and they'll look at their feet.

What are you wearing?

I know a lot of people buy their cars.

I hate to say it.

But yes, we absolutely hate you.

I don't know your name, but your Cayman is awesome.

What do you drive again?

I'm like, oh, you.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

So I definitely defaulted that.

But, uh, yeah, James Cameron, what would he drive?

And he's in an outdoorsman adventure.

He's a water man.

Yeah.

Explorer.

No outbacks.

Good, good, good.

I mean, what's funny is somebody could probably, somebody's probably sitting here doing it.

Looking up what he actually drives.

But, uh, so it probably is something mundane like an outback.

I think of him as a guy that is about technology that is just off center.

Like he's, he's a tech guy, but he's not the stuff we're thinking about now.

It's the thing we're, we're headed towards.

So, and I also think he's a guy that's probably intrigued by electric cars in their tech.

Ah, as much as I would like him to be an adventurer guy.

I think he's looking out at tech and that kind of stuff.

So I'm going to say a lucid.

Oh, that's good.

That's a lucid driver.

Lucid.

He's probably driving like a Land Rover for all I know, but I'm going to go lucid.

Yeah.

Lucid is interesting.

There is a lot of tech and there's a lot to discover that isn't mainstream tech.

Exactly.

That they have approached completely differently.

You know, what is the subject?

Let's do it differently.

What's our take on it?

And that's, that's what he does.

That's excellent.

Like that.

Uh, another one for you.

Okay.

What I'm staying in concept.

Okay.

Picasso.

What would Picasso drive?

Darn it.

Well, we know it would be something painted blue because of his blue period.

So we know that.

Nice.

Good.

Also deconstructivist.

Oh, that's, that's a good one.

That's a good one.

And it would come down to styling.

Why am I looking over the edge?

It's only 22 stories.

You're good.

You know, you do it really well.

Gentlemen, you're doing really well.

Yeah.

It would be something that is stylistically not for everyone.

And not appreciated until much later.

That's what folks wagon think.

Are those appreciated now?

No, they are.

No, no.

Does anybody appreciate?

Still are.

Yeah.

Something that is interesting.

It would be something not cohesive.

Oh, interesting.

Okay, I see that.

Yeah.

Karma.

Oh, okay.

Maybe the original fiscal karma.

The original fiscal karma.

Yeah.

There were design themes fighting with other design themes.

And there wasn't one single read and one single hierarchy.

It wasn't.

This is the shoulder theme.

This is the supporting themes or or.

Marks to the car.

Yeah.

This crazy theme.

It was this theme down here.

That diamond pattern.

It was themes everywhere.

But somehow it all worked.

All right.

Somehow.

That's good.

It worked.

And you look everywhere.

Well, that's a completely different shape.

That doesn't relate it over here.

That's a completely different shape.

Yeah.

The whole world.

Yeah.

That's what his.

That's good.

Do we think somebody's going to give Henrik Fisker BC money

to try cars a third time?

Car number three.

Sorry.

I just was wondering about that.

Okay.

In keeping with the theme of pioneers in their field.

Okay.

You have a love for aviation.

Yeah.

And the person who first championed commercial flight.

Amelia Earhart.

Unfortunately, she passed late late 30s.

She was 37 or 39.

Yeah.

Forget somewhere in there.

But she did not reach the age of 40.

Yeah.

And she was an adventurer.

Yeah.

Again, no outbacks.

No outbacks.

Got her mission accomplished.

Yes.

She viewed the world differently.

It was further taking.

All right.

And she took big strides.

Yeah.

Big leaps.

How ambitious to cross oceans.

Yeah.

And then champion.

What we now know is normal.

Interesting.

But what would she drive?

Because it's sad.

She probably would drive something totally utilitarian.

You get to the airport.

Out back just to get the airport.

Exactly.

Did the plate is cool.

Get the door shut and get on a cool pan.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Hmm.

I think it's either.

Classic.

Land Rover.

Range Rover.

Like the 70s.

Like the old one.

Ooh.

That's good.

So which, you know, is she.

Is she going classic or it.

Because I wonder if she would.

Would be a wrench.

You know, because I imagine she would.

She would be a wrench, you know.

So the old Land Rover is also a challenge.

Uh-huh.

I mean, adventure in that.

And we can also.

That's good.

Because.

Those adventures.

Especially the pilots in Alaska.

They would drain the oil from their engine.

And on cold days.

And sleep with the oil.

And then put it back in their engine.

In the mornings.

Yeah.

And then put it back in their engine.

In the mornings.

And take warm oil in your engine.

So you know your, your engine was start.

I think she would be one of those.

And she would totally wrench.

On a.

Land Rover.

I'm going, I'm going 70s.

Like the early.

Okay.

I've got.

I've got one more for you.

You got one more for me.

But I'm curious.

Do we have any questions that we should tackle in the.

In the stream yet?

All right.

I'm happy to.

I'm happy to tackle other questions.

Interesting.

All right.

You're getting close.

Yeah.

It's in the ballpark.

That's Mercedes.

Trying things.

It is.

James.

Not change the big, successful.

Exactly.

So does that mean EQS?

Like the boat sank.

Let's get over it.

Kind of.

Back in Titanic.

You're doing well.

Yeah.

It's very good.

He's got films.

I noticed in my research, he.

He has films Slated for 2020.

Nine release.

Still.

Yeah.

Avatar.

But yeah, okay, okay, that's good. That ties in.

All right.

Yeah, to Vinci and Pagani.

Yeah, Pagani for him. Yeah.

So my last one for you is Frank Lloyd Wright.

Oh.

Uh, 1982 Volvo 280.

It's a box. It's done. That's really good.

It's the box. The car came in. That is really good.

I think you nailed it.

That's really good. I like that a lot.

I mean, old, old ranges, but how interesting that

rectilinear design still means high end luxury.

They're going to call it and yeah, there's that.

Why? Why?

Does that exist?

But something rectilinear speaks to volume.

Yeah, filling a space and it's luxury.

Okay. This is good. I see it.

All right. What else you have for me?

Okay. I've got a good one for you.

Uh-oh.

And you love the mountains. You love the outdoors and climbing.

Yeah. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

The first person to ostensibly summit Mount Everest

is George Mallory and tensing Norde.

Yeah.

Now Sir Edmund Hillary recognizes.

Yeah.

George Mallory as being ostensibly the first person to summit Everest.

Even though there's no actual evidence.

Yeah. Even though they're putting the piece together

over things that have been found and finding him years later.

They think that he did it.

And so they're, I think we, the collective we is willing to give credit

to George Mallory for the first to summit Mount Everest.

Sure.

Pioneer in his field.

Yeah.

You love Mount Norde.

Not nearing you love climbing.

Yeah.

What would George Mallory drive?

What would Mallory drive?

I can't say Land Rover again.

Yeah.

If he was a Brit too.

Yes.

You can suck me there.

And you can, you can see the through line here.

So pioneers in their fields.

Yeah, for sure.

I like it.

It's good stuff.

And I just, I just had a tacky thought.

Okay.

If he's got like lots of North space backing.

It's the Ashton Martin SUV.

Oh.

Is he doing it all?

Is he?

He's the greatest taste.

It doesn't.

But he was, he was that level of class.

He was.

He was that level of class.

Yeah.

I want to go ask Martin SUV.

But I don't know if he was that flashy.

Plus, I don't know if North facing a Patagonia response to him or not.

That's how that would happen.

Did they exist?

You should not have did not exist.

He wasn't even born.

We're bringing them all.

We're bringing them all forward.

Bring them all to know.

That's my first answer.

I'm trying to figure out what else George would do.

But.

And he also passed young.

He passed.

He did not reach age 40.

You know what I'm actually going to go with.

I actually think.

Because he was the kind of guy like.

Lawrence of Arabia.

Okay.

British high society.

It went on crazy adventures.

I think he's the guy that drives the like restored Ashton Martin D.B.

Five around and thinks he is James Bond.

When he hangs out in London.

Oh.

And then he banishes for six months on.

Like that.

It's that.

And it's not the original.

Is it the original one that's been made perhaps more than $1,000,000?

The crazy ones?

The continuation.

Those cars.

I think it's one of those that he gets out and you know, looks

Savile Row right and is London.

And Bond leaves.

And might come back.

That is good.

I.

I'm.

All right.

I'll give it to you.

I like it.

All right.

We've got any other fun questions coming in.

I've got others here that I wrote down over the time.

But.

Yeah.

One question for Todd.

Who is the Ferrari of Hollywood Studios?

simple, exclusive, beautiful products that are very expensive and very strong in

during brands. Apple, Apple TV right now is that. They've taken over what HBO used to be.

So Apple isn't necessarily even making any money, but because they sell

these things, they don't have to. So they're the only studio that can pay

exorbitant amounts of money. People to make very, very classy things.

And if they fail, everybody goes, yeah, but it won't awards, but nobody

watched it and they don't care.

Okay, I'm curious to see how long that business model continues, but right now

that's who they are. It's good. All right, keep going with some other questions.

Okay, here's a question because this is not only thousands.

By the way, we are not doing this again soon. So that's why we're doing it now

because I still cannot believe this, by the way. We were on that track all day.

Yeah. I gave rides. I rode right seat. I got to drive my own

Amira. It was fantastic to be out here. There was so many good cars here.

And they weren't all porches, which I also liked. There's some great porches here today.

There was no, no, no, no, that was a shot. No, no, no, no. I'm saying that because of what

your brother lost it, where he made the comment where he went one of our track days

recently, he said, do a lot of porches come to you? I'm going to tease him. He's

probably watching. I hope Daniel that you're watching. And he said, our porches

generally heavily represented at events like these. It's like, yes.

But lots of great cars, lots of great cars. But so this is, this is this very

special 1000 podcast. But it also marks a turning point for us because from here

going forward, we're going to do one podcast a week. And it's always going to have a

video element. So that's the thing we're going to do going forward. And we're very

excited about that. But it also marks a change in this two a week for that.

We started once a week. We started half hour. We're like, that's plenty.

And then it became twice a week in both of them an hour. And so what we're moving

to is probably about a 90 minute video if you want it or otherwise is audio.

So the question is, what are we going to miss most about the twice a week

format? And what are we looking forward to most about the new format coming?

Getting to 1000 podcasts is, it's been a lot. And I've never wanted it to seem

like Dredgery. And as soon as we end recording, I'm so glad we did. But it's the

job that you and I created for ourselves. But we had to stick to it. We had to be

consistent. And that meant doing it while we're traveling, that meant doing it.

All the odd hours when we're tired, we've, you know, not in the best of moods.

And we had to get through. And it always, always put me in a better mood.

We had so much fun talking. We came up with stuff. We made each other laugh.

Off camera, especially to or for sure, you know, there's stuff that all the customers

will ever see. But I always felt better. I felt better about myself. I felt more relaxed.

I was happier because it felt just like we're doing the thing that we love.

And it comes back to creating the show that we wanted to watch and be a part of.

And so it would be that consistency. But I guess good news. It's not going away.

Because I think the added element of being able to show you watching show all of you

what we're talking about, whether it's a dealer configurator or a

yeah, yeah. Okay, the Porsche configurator. But yeah, understood.

Any configurator, although I have been becoming obsessed with the new Ferrari F80.

The configurator. I know you have. I'm obsessed with that at all.

But okay, all right. It's good. I want to drive that car.

Okay.

So the consistency of that. But you know, good news. We get to continue that.

But it was, it, it seemed like it wasn't the highlight of the week.

And then we got to do it again. And it quickly became that. It was great.

Interesting that you say that because I, there have been those moments over a thousand

podcasts where I came in like, okay, I guess we're doing this now.

And we, and we hit stop. But we're just like, that was fun. That was just fun.

Which is really cool. It's been, it's been a nice mental reset.

When times have been stressful. It's been really amazing how just sitting around talking cars is really fun.

One of the things I am looking forward to in the new format is we're going to expand it a bit.

And we're going to be able to do car debates, car conclusions all in every

episode. So we're going to be able to touch on those things faster.

We're also going to allow ourselves to drift off into almost a rant about design.

I want to talk about story. We're going to, we're going to give ourselves some space.

So don't get up about those things. Have a granola bar.

Get a bottle of water. Nobody wants to see that. I'll be, at all.

Still talking about design. That might happen.

Then we'll leave the camera on you. No one will ever know. I'll, I'll just go up

who's worked with cameras. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, but I think that's going to be cool. I mean, you're right.

There's things like configurators and stuff that we talked about doing that would be hard.

But I am genuinely concerned about making it a podcast that you feel like you have to watch.

Right. It's just still be something that is very audio-friendly.

So that's very much on my mind. It's very much concerned for me.

Because that's the way I take in podcasts. I very rarely, even though I know I've

branded about this. I cannot believe that podcast named after a device that no longer exists.

Right.

Is no longer audio now has to be video. I don't understand the progression.

But okay. I'm the old radio guy in me, I guess.

But so we're going to make sure it's still audio-friendly.

But I, we're going to give ourselves the ability to run around a little bit.

And that's going to be fun, even though it's obviously based on cars.

But sometimes, and sometimes it happens in the edit.

Sometimes we, we head down to Rabbit Trail.

And that's where we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back away too far gone.

We may not pull it back as far.

So hopefully that's still enjoyable.

Thank you. By the way, those of you that are here that are patrons, which is many of you.

You guys are vital to us. Some of you are very close friends.

It's just really cool to have that support. That is a big thing.

Matters.

And you know, most of these questions that I'm looking at came straight from our discord and from our patrons,

which is really cool. And we're hoping to, I'm going to say it out loud.

We're going to hope to do a fairly regular extra podcast for our middle patron layer.

That's something else.

Yes, that makes it a thing.

That's going to make it a thing right there.

Right.

All right. So yeah, so that's something we're going to do as well.

And I'm looking forward to, again, after the thousand episodes, 11 years.

It's just that slight tweak of something you like that makes it fresh again.

And I'm excited about that part of it as well.

And we'll see how much people want to watch us talk.

I find it weird, but I mean, you're all here.

So thank you.

But still enjoyable.

Absolutely.

And knowing that we share that.

And what's so great is when we see people on trips like this.

And we dive right in.

It's like friends.

All of you have the friends that you dive right back in.

Yeah.

And that's what it feels like with every one of you.

Yeah.

It's fantastic.

So, hey, you said this in the podcast.

Tell me more.

Like, let me finish my thoughts.

Yeah, I hear that.

Which has been great.

Any questions from here from the room?

I have stuff here, but I'm curious.

Anyway, it has something that's on their brain that they want to ask.

All of the hands shooting up all over the room.

Okay.

All good.

Of all tracks.

I was just going to say here, but yeah, no, all tracks.

Okay.

You know what?

But I'll, but I'll connect the dots because here.

The same.

My favorite corner here is very similar to my favorite corner that I can think of right off top of my head.

There's double gouch.

Dual left on spa.

Okay.

And you turn in once.

And you hit apex and you hit outer edge and you hit apex and you can accelerate all the way out.

And it's once you get it right, the entire rotation of the car is your right foot.

You just turn the wheel, leave the wheel locked and it's just right foot and you can rotate the car.

And down here, you can do it as well.

16, 17, 18, 19.

That's the exact same thing going the other way.

I think gouches left going here through the right.

I just loved it all day, except it started to annoy me and remind me why I don't like the Amira seats enough.

The Amira seats for that are like fall out of the car.

The car is great.

But the fall out.

But that's, I love that so much.

That's good.

That's very good.

I'm up there.

I think there's not a particular corner.

Yeah, there is.

A Rouge.

A Rouge radial.

Sure.

Up top of that spa.

It's funny.

I think you were marked to me that we have more experience at spa than we do Kota or many other tracks.

And it's a little weird thing about.

Yes, it's pretty.

But that's really great.

It's for me, it's when I get a line figured out.

And I still don't have a couple of these lines that Kota figured out.

And I'm kind of frustrated at myself.

But I know it'll come.

Yeah.

I'm still working on.

We all need stuff to work on.

So it's good.

Anything else on anybody's brain?

Taking any and all questions.

Hey, Jason.

What's up?

Yes.

What do you think of the design of the Kota tower?

You really like the glass floor.

This is your favorite part.

Favorite part.

Yeah.

Why do we have to have a glass floor?

Why do we have to have moon roots?

Like why do you have to bake sizzle?

I actually didn't know that it's an amphitheater on the lowest level out to the northwest.

Just that way.

I didn't realize it was a full amphitheater.

I.

The more that I study it, the more that I think it's really quite great.

Because it looks like a solid object and being here, it is not.

There's nothing solid.

It's, again, almost deconstructivist.

It's a lot of negative space that creates a body.

And that's what's always been interesting to me.

When you're sketching, drawing, you're sketching an idea.

The negative space is just as important as the positive is the thing that you're drawing.

And so that's what the Kota tower represents to me.

But it also has speed.

22 stories is a lot, but we're good.

I'm doing all right.

You are.

You're doing great.

I appreciate it a lot.

Knowing how much you're not happy being up.

Get this high and having a glass floor.

Are you doing a surprise?

There's a monolith.

There's the center of leadership.

This monolith.

Yeah.

Also, just this open air feel, which is quite nice.

And I didn't realize how much I liked it until I was a pair.

I didn't realize we were going to get the 1000th podcast.

So you could say the word monolith.

I mean, we're done.

Everybody.

I think it's mission accomplished.

You could use the lot of words on this podcast.

Yeah, we have.

There's another question that I read earlier that was interesting.

Somebody was noticing.

And I'm glad they're noticing how much you and I really leaned in the road trips.

It has a big piece that we like doing.

And we've talked before about the fact that it really is genuinely.

It's our favorite thing we do now.

It is a staggering amount of work.

But it is our favorite thing we do.

And so their questions were twofold.

One, do we plan to do more and two?

And on this one, what's our thing we're looking forward to most?

And then the are we do we plan to do more was a question about international?

And the international question I'll answer right now.

And yes, absolutely.

I would love to do a couple of monster international road trip films.

We've talked about it.

You think it's expensive and timely.

The time consuming to be the one here.

Yes.

My Lord.

But we have talked about it.

And we're still talking about it.

And it's something that we want to do.

Whether we do or not, we're going to keep going back to the ring and spy every year.

Both with everyday driver and with hooked on driving.

That's something we're very excited about.

The number of people and friends that we have met doing those trips.

And what I love about going to Europe, I know this is a tangent,

but what I love about going to Europe with people and getting on those two tracks is the fact that it feels like a pivotal event for so many people.

Like this is the period where I drove before those tracks.

And this is the period where I drove after those tracks.

It's a real milestone.

And there's somebody here.

I know Ted's here and he's been along with everyone.

But I don't know if maybe you coined the term.

Ted, you may have coined the term that we use now, which is it's the once in a lifetime trip you should take every year.

I think that is your turn.

Which is fantastic.

That is the tagline for the trip.

Yes.

Many of you have come more than once, which is awesome.

So we want to do international on this road trip.

I got to be honest with you guys.

We're kind of doing too much.

Honestly, because we're doing the road trip, which is get here.

We want people to enjoy it.

And that was a lot.

Which is awesome.

Yes.

Those are two big steps.

Then why don't we film it?

Let's just do that while we're doing it.

And then we go to a track day and change gears and actually host a track day.

So, you know, we had this great idea for everything converges.

And then we got the little of it with this a lot of things converging,

which you'd think would have dawned on us earlier.

But no, actually the thing I'm looking forward to is the fact that we have this second half of the trip

that is all roads we haven't done.

I'm with you on that.

And with you on that.

And many of you have said, where's your tail of the dragon time?

And we have people that are just joining a tail of the dragon, which can be really cool.

But I'm liking that we're doing the second half.

And I also like that the premise of this series that we're doing, which is drive fans cars,

different cars every day while we do this remote and film a series of things,

came from one of our patrons on Discord.

We said, what'd it be cool?

Is it something like this?

And then I hit my brain and then it went boom.

And here we are.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

I mean, that's really fun as well.

But it's a lot.

Thinking that through quite a bit and revisiting some really amazing cars that we've driven over the years.

And I've gotten back in some already and gone.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And you know, we both have the brands that we love that we lean into.

But I hope to experience more in my life.

And for me, the road trips represent somewhat of a vacation.

Even though we're working our butts off.

Yeah, sure.

It's for sure.

It's hard sometimes.

Things go wrong.

As we know, things go wrong.

And we have to deal with it.

But I am so at a place in my life, where now is the time.

And I want to impart that to all of you.

Now is the time.

Now is, if you can and you can get away, do a road trip with whatever car that you've got.

Yeah.

Now is do it.

Get away.

Make that plan.

And I've also realized about me.

And that is if I don't make a plan, it's not going to happen.

Sure.

If I don't just do it, I have to be very deliberate.

Otherwise, it's not going to happen.

So that has helped me tremendously to just, okay, we've got dates on the calendar.

Oh, my gosh.

We've got to work towards that.

Yeah.

Here it comes.

And I hopefully I've told the story.

My grandfather always had something on the calendar.

Six months out.

And he lived to 102.

Yeah.

He always had something on the calendar to look forward to.

And that's what road trips represent to me.

So that's cool.

That's me sort of manifesting what my grandfather did for.

He always had some.

Oh, well, I've got to go back here.

And I've got a board meeting there.

And I'm still on the board for this foundation.

Yeah.

I've just got to go do stuff and kept busy.

And it was just always thinking and doing and planning.

And he.

He's the guy that bought a new car 98.

Yeah.

And about six or extended warranty.

Like you do, right?

Like one does.

That's a very good.

Yeah.

There was a question actually that I want to try to cover.

And I have to walk back over to look at Coda to do this.

The question was, how do you do your first track day?

And first off, I'm going to, I have to say it,

you got to come to hook down driving.

And hopefully we'll be back at Coda.

But this look, I'm standing here because this is daunting.

Okay.

Not only just being up here, but getting this track.

I talked to many people today who've got here.

And I'm going to say,

not only just being up here, but getting this track.

I talked to many people today who got here.

And just the scale of the track struck them anew.

They were like, I'm going to be good.

I'm going to be really cool.

I said it on A, but I really could be B.

Maybe I could be C.

I got the code.

And I went, what am I doing here?

I had a lot of those conversations today.

Okay.

But the reality is the thing we do with hook down driving.

We're not the only ones.

But the thing we do with hook down driving is bring your car you love.

Bring your car that's precious to you.

Drive it for real.

You can drive it here because the people that drive with us

also care about their car.

So that's important.

Yes.

So everybody wants their car to go home happy and clean

and shiny side up.

We're not clean, but shiny side up.

Okay.

So that's what we're all doing.

So that's really cool.

So there's.

There's less prep than you think if you want to do a track day.

That's the thing I want to come across with.

There's a ton of stuff you can do to make your car track prepped.

But bring it like it is unless it's leaking or falling apart.

Don't do that.

But if it's running, just bring it.

And the thing is we have instructors that we put in the right seat with you.

We've come to us on to Europe.

There's right seat instructors there as well.

And that's the whole point is to make you comfortable in the car

and make you better than when you arrived.

And there's very little prep.

Other than come.

Get here early.

Listen to your coach.

Be flexible.

That's really all I can suggest.

Well, everybody learns differently.

Obviously.

And I look at it as being wanting to learn.

Wanting to learn new things.

And I have to teach myself.

I have to remind myself that constantly.

And that is always be ready to learn something.

Because we all get to the place where I think I think I'm nice.

And we've got a good beat on things.

And sometimes you don't.

You come to a track like Koda and it gets magnified.

So I say, come.

You know, you can look at all the videos.

You can look at the laps.

You can do sin.

You can prep.

And that is important and good and valid.

But also.

Wanting to learn from others.

Because we all have so much to teach each other.

As well about pay my experience here.

And that's what I'm loving hearing the conversations.

Hey, oh, yeah.

Let me help you out with this.

It's like given away the secrets.

You're given stuff away.

And thanks.

That felt really valuable.

You're.

Thank you.

That was nice.

That's a great point.

I feel like.

And, you know, this isn't just hooked on driving.

But I see it.

I see it with our events a lot.

And that is.

People aren't secretive.

They don't want to keep you with arms length.

And that's easy.

When we get into any of our hobbies.

Want to keep.

Well, this is my hobby.

You can't come in.

That's a thing that's kind of a plague that happens to pick your hobby.

But I feel like I like seeing a coach is talking about the line.

And three other people walk over and go, what's going on on turn six?

You know what I mean?

I think that's great.

And we're all just giving it away, which is really fun.

Because we're all getting better at it.

And it feels so daunting at first blush.

Want to go to the track.

And I do think it's that same thing that happened here.

I think people get excited.

Get to the track.

And now we're longer.

Get to the night before.

And I'm like, don't want to do this.

And I think you just have to come out and try it and be slow.

And that's fine.

I went out at C group at one point today.

I was like, I'm going to go to B group.

I'm just going to pack it off of it.

But I had a great day.

So that's really good.

Excellent.

Trying to think what else we've got.

If there are any other questions on the.

On the feed.

Great.

Excellent.

Andrew C is asking, have you not been able to drag it?

What do you expect?

How does that drive?

After all I've read and heard about.

I'm expecting a bit of craziness.

But then I've also talked to people who have said it's actually a fairly sane place.

I've heard a lot of stories.

You know, this is still public.

Public road.

And you don't need to pee bee on this particular stretch of public road.

And I.

I've just heard a lot of craziness.

So I guess that makes me a little nervous because I want to of course drive it.

And enjoy the canyon roads in the scenery.

But I don't want to be.

Yeah, inundated.

I suppose with with just craziness crazy drivers or crazy stuff going on.

But that might happen too.

I mean, we're used to TF days at the ring.

We'll hope for low traffic.

We'll see.

Yeah.

Low traffic.

Nobody scratching their.

They're hardly as they mean it over.

We'll see how that happens.

Yeah.

The good thing.

I would like that.

What else?

Everything else?

I guess it goes.

Someone asks this question.

Followed this.

Kamen.

Now I want to ask you of your mirror.

What?

What song with the Amirabee?

The question.

What?

Okay.

So the question is,

how did you answer this for the Kamen?

I think I composed an entire album.

You probably did.

Okay.

The song is what?

The question was,

what song is the Kamen?

And now I'm being asked,

what song is the Amira?

It's very easy on the eyes. It does sound good. It sounds different than most other cars.

It doesn't have a shouty voice. It's graceful. There's an elegance to it. I keep saying there's

a gentlemanly quality to it. It's not a loud raucous in your face car and I think it's

an acquired taste and people glance at it. What is that? Is that for the calipers say

Lotus? I had somebody say that to me. What kind of car is this? It does say it on

like three places. It's all good. I think it's definitely an acquired taste, music that's

not for everyone. A song that's not for everyone. I suppose. And it doesn't have to be some

obscure band. You know what? I'm going to fail on this, I think. I am not enough

to go in position. You're good at quoting sports scores. You're not on sports and you

know baseball stats. No, that's that rarely. Why are you? It does happen. I don't know that

I can answer this. Here's a lame answer. But it's one I've got. What I was trying, it's

not great, but I'm going to go there anyway. It's a love song to a woman that not everybody

finds a tractor. And the closest one I can get to there because it's the one that popped

into my head is Meet Virginia by train. Okay. So that's not quite right, but it's the first

one in that category that I can think of that works. Appreciating for many other qualities

that don't initially become apparent. It doesn't have to be not someone attractive, just

someone that most people are drawn to because most people are going to buy the Cayman. So

whatever pops on, we all know is an earworm. That's the Cayman. Let's be honest. Let's be

honest. No, actually, it's 9-11. Sorry. 9-11 is the eye. That's the thing. Happily

take that. It's always on that. It's phenomenal. It's a great car. It's a great car. There's lots

of things. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Anything else we've got rattling around in there? And

any other question that somebody has thought of in the audience? Okay. So you've started,

you have a podcast, videos, travel company, track days. What is next for the everyday driver

sleep? Yes. Sleep. It's things that we've talked about. So people are asking, well, you've

heard, what is next? And we're talking about not a grander scale, but a different scale

because what we love most about these road trips are scenery. I have been on these road

trips and gasped at the scenery. And Todd's already thinking framing, like, how is the

car going to drive through the shot? All right, everybody, we're turning around. We're

going back up the hill and we're coming down and we're getting the shot. Right. We have

to keep going over and over and over and over. It's beautiful. Yay. There it is for the

first time ever. But we get the shot. And so let's go do that on an international scale.

Let's go do some different kinds of things. Different scenery, beautiful scenery. And

yeah. You know, Jeff, you asked the question. And I think the hooked on driving is a culmination

of us looking for a pivot or an additive. Pivot's not right. Adid is right for a while.

Because we love doing this show. We love what it's done for us and what it's done for

others, which is crazy to say, but it's still true. And we love making the content. But

at some point, you've reached as fast as the treadmill, your comfortable go with. It could

go faster, but this is as fast as we're comfortable. And we've had to have a lot of conversations

about, okay, I mean, I came in from a filmmaking background and wanted to shoot very high quality.

But then YouTube would like you to be as fast as possible, which means as low quality as

possible. So where on that scale am I comfortable? Because I'm typically the chance and Paul will

both acknowledge I'm the one that's always the bell weather for that. And I'm the one

that always try to be like, can we be just a little faster? You know, and I admit that.

But there was something where we were like, okay, we're not we're reaching a place where

more content isn't real. So if that's not going to happen, then what can we do that feels

like it's connected to what we already do? And that's what came to hooked on driving.

All right. And that's something that we're loving. And that's the reason we were excited

about the culture and buying the company. And also to have something and I hate to break

it down this simply, but have something that makes money that is not connected to Paul

and I made something else. And we just needed that. You know, so that's that's the thing

that let's hooked on driving. But Paul has said this many, many times. We bought hooked

on driving, not hooked on tracking. And that is key. And one of the things that I've been

very surprised to learn and it started in 2015 when we released the pilgrimage film. And

we had all those competition people were like, Hey, if you took that trip, I would come.

And I remember that was a weird thing to write my mind around this. This is not a travel

company. We make videos. That's what we do. Don't you know what we do here? We just started

a podcast. We make videos. This is what we do. But that's a great idea. But that has been

such a pivotal thing, I think, for both of us. We have enjoyed that more than we expected

to. Yes. And I mean, I had this experience on track today was riding right seat and enjoying

that every bit as much as driving myself, which sounds weird. That sounds weird. You would

just think you're not driving for yourself. You're hanging on for dear life while that

person drives fast. And you're hanging on for dear life. Yeah, you're hopefully hanging

on for dear life. But and you're and you're cackling about it and enjoying it and watching

that moment when that person enjoys and we have had that on our road trips to where people

are having a road trip on a road they would have never seen in the other. Would have never

come on for themselves. And they're having them over like, I get to see that right now.

And I love that. And it's actually something that I've enjoyed about our road trips is

where does it sounds to be in some middle of nowhere part of some state I can't believe

I'm driving driving to be like, Well, that's really cool. You know, as soon as we get out

and just you've seen us, we just kind of look at it for a bit, you know, and go, it's really

cool that we get back at the car. But those those things, I feel like broaden us and pull

us away from the worst part of cars, which is I have to commute to work today. Yes. And

I'm going to do this. Yes, an hour. And I hate my car. And we just step out of our

own lives and we understand why a car is great again. And it sounds so weird, but it's something

that we've seen over and over. And I'm hoping back to your question that we're going to

do more consistent trips that we can either share on camera or we can also share with others.

It's just something that's very exciting. I have an addition to that. And that is the part

of hooked on driving that has entered our lives again. I've been trying to it's so easy for

YouTube videos to watch the counter and to want to want the counter to go up and know people

are watching and all that means we're successful and connecting that directly that a subscriber

count or a view count directly to success and that being the measure of success. And it is not. I

constantly have to divorce that in my mind. But what hooked on driving to me as represented is

allowing me to dream big again. I can I can dream about big ideas. We come up with crazy ideas.

We've come up with some for for the show for the media side of the business. But this has

allowed me to dream big again because we've got a lot of ideas we cannot share right now. We won't

share. But it's hooked on driving. And I've told this to many of you. I have discovered that hooked

on driving is important to people. It just is. Yeah. And I'm trying to put my finger on it. And it

is the community. It is this one. We're a people business that screws around with cars.

Pretty much. Yeah. What are we doing here? Yeah. We're almost that high, by the way. He's

going to land on us. Yeah. Yeah. All right. He's on. Okay, sticking off. All right.

It just it's amazing to have people come to an event like this or wherever all of the regions

and just have discovered it's it's just important. It's a part of people's psyche. It's what you love.

The things that you love you want to do and it and it taps into that. I'm so excited. And it's

it's allowed me to feed off that and dream again. Like wow, what if what if we were able to do that

and it it touched again, you know, somebody or, you know, not inexpensive sometimes. But, you know,

it's it's like I said, it's just allowed me to think big again a little bit. Another question from

online. Yeah, but you know what I say? The last question. Sure. Yeah. I got that. Yep.

Well, Draco asks, will you ever go from just one name and drop the everyday driver?

The question is, are we going to merge the brands and the short answer is no. What's happened

with everyday driver is that it started in our mind. It started in my mind. It's just a TV show

and that was it. And, you know, we've touched all these other little things that we've done. But

it's all in my mind is content creation or media however you want to think about it. So,

the intention is to keep everyday driver as the more media side and have hooked on driving the

adventures, the track days, the trips, because it feels like that's a clean delineation.

We like both brands. We like both logos. I mean, we were thrilled to discover the

hooked on driving the logo also has just a look about it. It seems to blend with the everyday

driver logo. I mean, there are a lot of things about it for instant synergy. So, we don't intend to

kill either one because we think they have separate value and slightly separate things that they do,

but obviously they are connected as well. Now, what else? And for you to that, other things that people

thought of. Lionel is asking, what are Todd Paul's favorite cars to have phones that he don't

currently own? Lionel's asking, favorite cars that we have owned and no longer or don't currently own.

We drove in 86 recently and I know you're tired of hearing about the GRD-6. I know you are.

I hear you. Some of you are typing right now as I say that, but we drove it again recently at

we were actually at Eagles Canyon Raceway in Toyota. The user edition is coming everyone.

The user edition, yeah. And we just, we both got out of it individually. We can look there

in the way, my god, that's a good car. It's straight forward. It's not expensive, but it just does

so many things right. So, I miss having that. And we actually, at the start of our road trip,

that we took, Mike came with us for the first two days with that old show Bluewood,

with the gold wheels, and he rocks it every day. That's right. That's right. It's good to see that

being driving like crazy and it's been phenomenal. So I genuinely miss that. I also miss the 300 ZX.

I really do. Yeah. That was the right one. It was the right one and the right side. I'm

glad and we had experiences with it. So glad to be back. But, but you and I've talked with this a

lot and that is it hits two things. One, we had great experiences. Some of them were planned

today on some of the screens, which was crazy. It was weird to be, by the way, at Coda,

being at Coda, driving on Coda, and on the screens, we were at Coda. It was really weird.

That happened a couple times when I looked up and I was like, that's the Z on Coda, and I'm going

out on Coda, and I hurt my brain. For the first time, we're on the jumbo drone. I didn't know that

was a thing, but it was today. So I do miss three of the ZX, but I also have to keep this in mind.

I don't think I would have driven it at least a thousand miles a year. I just think it would have

been a car that sat and didn't get driven. And I genuinely hate that one that happens to a good

car and the guy that has it, Rob and Wyoming, has refined it further since he bought it and

drives it a lot. It needed a couple of things. I didn't know that. That's good. He did those things,

he drives it daily. He has a lot of nice cars and cars, and that's the one that drives the most.

I'm thrilled to hear that. So what are you saying? Is that a shot? No, it's actually not.

Okay, it's actually not. I mean, the 928 is still in my life. The 928 story is a whole

saga of its own. Put so much money into it, I can't. I know. Anyway, well, if you're so,

yeah, you're so sunk cost into that. You're like, I'm never climbing out of this. Maybe we'll just

keep it. Yeah, I got it. I understand. No, I guess Maserati products. Really? It's, I'm

weirdly keeping five back. I don't want that back, but just, I was going to say, the noise,

just thunderous and fun and having this car that I wanted to care about, but didn't.

Sure, sure. I see that. Yeah. I wanted to care about it and then realized I don't have to.

It was so free. It is free. That's what leads us to driving on the salt flats.

Why people buy Maserati's? I want to care about this, but somebody else will have to.

Yeah, ain't going to be me. There you go. There you go. There you go. Anything else, chance?

Come on, three. Oh, Rich asked, how would everyday driver be different if you would

both live in Texas, California, or Florida the whole time? I think it means Colorado, not Florida.

All right. Okay. All right. Question. So how would everyday driver

be different when we live somewhere else, Florida, California, Colorado, Texas? I mean, the,

I will tell you that one of my very favorite things, but what we do is putting a car

car. We've had many people ask over the years, why don't you show them in traffic? I'm like,

haven't we seen enough? I just, you know, I realized that's the usability factor and get the

fact that you're going to sit in traffic. I understand that and I can talk about the seats are comfortable

if it's got a back seat, I guess, but let's just, we were trying to find that middle ground between

informative and entertainment. You've got motor week on one side and top gear on the other.

Okay. We're trying to find that middle ground and I wanted it to look aspirational. Like,

these are cool roads I'd like to be on. That is a driving experience I'd like to have.

So that's the thing that we were always pursuing and where are we going? I'm sorry. I thought it would,

I thought it would be more informational. I thought the show would have turned out more informational

and less about the emotion. Yeah, and it's what I always try to, to make come through on camera.

The thing that we're feeling, we just discovered the thing. We got to go back and do it three more

times. And feel it again, everybody from the top. Yes, for sure. Absolutely. That's the reset right there.

Yeah, yeah. That part would be diminished, I think. But I want to show a cool road. I want to,

and sorry, back to the question of location. I think in Texas, in Florida, it's not as compelling.

And thankfully we started in California, but then I was really thrilled when I moved to Utah that

I wasn't seeing the same roads in our videos that I saw and everybody else's videos. I mean,

they got to the point for a while, 10 years or so ago, where I could tell you which road and

which turn out other people's videos were filmed on. I was like, oh, I know exactly where you're

standing. And we were all shooting on exactly the same road for like two or three things,

saying exactly the same interpretation because we all got the exact same presidential and this is

what you say. Yeah, so I always wanted it to be aspirational. So it would have been harder. I think

that this show to be is compelling or for me, frankly, is interesting to shoot it if I didn't have

those really cool mountain roads. And thankfully we had them in California. We have them even more

in Utah because they're easier to get to and work with. So I've really liked that. And that's

something that we're going to hopefully continue to lean into. And I also, it's been an interesting

journey of just getting press cars. Somebody asked us recently that it just actually started a YouTube

channel that's been very successful, but they asked us if we were still having trouble getting

press cars. And I was like, yeah, they were like, really? You guys, like, it never stops. You fight

constantly. Not Pringles. They don't just have all the flavors. Yeah, just which one we're just a

wash and press cars. No, you're constantly fat. It's tough. It's tough. Certainly the COVID era

affected that quite a bit, but it is always tough. Anything else coming out of there? Yeah.

Another road trip. Repeating the question now. And that is how do we continue to make new memories

in cars? In our cars that we're driving, rather than repeating the memories that we experienced

before. Certainly it's location. And that's what leads us to not grander but more specific location

kinds of trips. I mean, they're grander, hopefully on, you know, by virtue of doing a different

location, but doesn't have to be long, but it can be, you know, very surgical locations. You know,

that would be different. I've got a car in this environment. That's kind of interesting,

kind of different. And this is going to sound weird, but there's a couple of roads that we shoot

near us in Utah. And I try to go up them, whether we're shooting our cars or not, I try to go up them

in my car in the fall. Just because depending upon what week you hit it, it's never going to look like

that again. Yeah, which is really cool. Just to get up there and not only see the fall colors,

but just see that it's never going to look quite like this again. And doing it in slightly

varied weather can be really cool. There were a couple of questions here. You had one.

So on this trip, you guys decided to include your filming and media coverage with the group that

was joining you and include, and actually not no spoilers, but feature a couple of cars that

come along on this trip. Is that something that you're maybe looking forward to doing on future

road trips? Because I know you have your Utah adventures that you're doing in the virtue of highway

that you're going to be doing late of this year. Is that something that you want to continue to

include? Or has it been a little too complicated and a lot of work, like you were kind of mentioned

alluded to earlier? Is that something that you want to include in the future? I think not on every trip.

But yes, because we're getting to experience these cars once again, and I've

I have this thing about press cars. Once we've driven it and shot it, I want it out of my life.

I don't want to touch it. I don't want to see it. Just take it away. We're done with it,

but it's been really cool to have some of the greatest hits. I'm back and being owned by people.

Wow, I get to experience and relive that. So I will say not for every trip, but certainly elements

of that. I would love new things that we have an experience, and that doesn't have to mean exotic

expensive crazy things. It can. I welcome that, but I still want it to be very relatable and still

okay, we've got this, you know, different vehicle, different car on the trip.

I completely agree with him on that to add to it. One of the things that's cool is a lot of our

sponsors are excited about seeing product related to an adventure. So in that regard, I encourage it.

We're doing our bear tooth trip later in the year, and actually power stop is actually the

solo sponsor of that trip. And their mandate to us was do something that you guys specifically do,

and so the entire point of that piece is going to be about covering us driving other people's cars

while people are with us on a road trip. And it's going to be about the fact that it is the

community and the road trip, and us driving people's cars on that and people swapping cars,

which is something that is uniquely come out of these trips, and power stop is wanted us to tell

a story that was us. So that's very cool. So that's something that we're doing a little bit

differently than this piece, which is more of a road trip for the year that has a destination of

Coda and these greatest its roads. So it's been interesting to find the places where we can connect

the dots, but also there is something wonderful to happen this year on pilgrimage. We just went.

We didn't film anything. And our contact in Germany was like, can I give you this to film?

I said, you know what? Not this time. We're just going to be here with people, have a great time,

drive, have good meals, and go home. So there's some freedom in that as well. So I think both are

going to occur. But it's been interesting. Have a lot going on this week for sure.

I'm going to hold off on you for just a second.

I have two questions. The first question is, will HOD start operating all across sessions,

in addition to the normal HPD as a cheaper way to get track time? And the second question is,

will HOD start partnering with manufacturers to offer like HPD for like teen drivers,

so my daughter like Porsche BMW, they offer like teen driving courses for teen drivers who just

recently got that license. I would love to do the teen driver thing. Getting it up on its feet,

having a teen driver. Getting it up on its feet is a whole different animal, but it's something

we'd like to do, and I think it'd be something we could easily partner on. Autocross, I'm less

interested in, but Autocross is something we've talked about as an add-on to some of our other

events. I don't think hooked on driving would ever do a hooked on driving Autocross and we're done.

Having it as an add-on to something else we're doing is a possibility. It's going to really

depend on venue, and some venues are more Autocross-funded than others. And we've talked about car

control. Absolutely, yeah. And using that not all the time, but investigating that and what resonates.

What we've found, and again, we're 18 months in, so we're learning all the time. But what we've

found is that folks that want to come to a track day, while they may really benefit from what I would

describe as Autocross style car control exercises, to actually learn braking and learn weight shift

at 20 miles an hour, they paid for a track day. And they're frustrated that these many hours of

their track day are spent in the parking lot chasing cones. So that's been something that we've

kind of had to figure out how to manage. But then there are those folks to your question that

just want to do an Autocross, because that's an easy entry point. Not against it, but

we talked about this on a recent podcast. We kind of have a desire because this brand already feels

premium and kind of grand. We kind of want to stay there. And if we can add elements of travel

and that kind of things that can stay with the brand, I think it could probably lean more that way

than Autocross. But I'm a huge proponent of more driving instruction, teen driving, that kind of

thing, if we can incorporate it, we will. Agreed. Agreed. Was there another question back here?

Bodie has one, but I want to wait for that. All right. So I think for a lot of people

getting on track is done, right? So maybe thinking about it, like doing a piece of what to expect

if you're considering doing this, bringing somebody in for the first day, and like, hey, this is

where you register, this is where you get your car, you know, all that, would that be something

that you guys would think about doing? I have to be honest on this, Donna. Yeah, you do. Okay, all right.

I love it. I love the idea of doing, here's how you do this track videos.

Unfortunately, that's viewership death. It just, yes. So, yeah, no, I understand. Totally agree.

And so what we are having to do, and you've seen a little bit of it already, but what we're having,

by the way, we're still on the screens down there. I'm sorry, I'm just only honest. That's really

weird. Sorry. That's still bizarre. Anyway, sorry. No, but having said that, we are, we did some

videos last you that were just hooked on drive, and we want to do some more of those that are

along the lines of what you're talking about. But it would be stuff that we would put out there

for the use of hooked on driving, and it wouldn't be everyday driver stuff, because just, I hate to say

it, pick the best driver that you think is fascinating, and the car you want to see,

that video done on a road will get twice as many views as done on a track. So track stuff is just

not broad enough. But for the right audience, I'd love to do more of it. I think it's an excellent idea

and done. Well, it's something that we're still wanting to figure out how to execute. So it

would be watched and very friendly and easy. So bite-sized chunks, I suppose, not just

really heavy, because we can get it to minutia so quickly. And when you come to a track day,

there's, I obsessed over tire pressures longer than I probably needed to today, and it's a lot of

minutia, but it's fun to experience when it really matters. It's really quite intriguing to experience

that. So anybody else here? Yeah. If you have like 10 different track days,

each track probably has a different car. It's like an ideal for it. Would you rather be in the same

car for all of them so you can kind of have like a dynamic, like kind of get to know that car

in a lot of different circumstances? Or is it like, obviously, you guys can drive a lot of stuff

on each track day. But if you had only one each track day, is it the same one all the way through?

Or is it kind of finding the best car from track? Well, we're all going to be Jay Leno. Don't

leave me with that. Man, that one today. I'd like to find the best car for the track,

something that is very well suited. There is a track here just to the northwest of Dallas

called Eagles Canyon. Interesting track, and I'm quite positive that very short wheel-based cars

would do very well there. I mean, we had the GR86, but the GR Corolla was actually pretty fun

and entertaining on this track. I'm not sure the big... It's not a hard car. It's not a hard car.

No. Would do very well or be as interesting as I'll say. So I think it would be interesting

experience, but I welcome ideas on how to pull that off. I mean, I'd love to have, I mean, we joke

about tools for the job. I'd love to have tools for the job for every track, and we talk about it

every year because it's hard. Okay, this is not a problem. I'm about to list, but I'm going to

suggest that it's a problem. When we go to the ring and spot, we have trouble figuring out which car

we should have on each track because you pick one for the entire event. And you're like,

yeah, it's actually a spa car, it's not only a ring car, and then you slap yourself across the

face because you're debating this problem, and you move on. So I'd love to have a specific car,

but I think there is the reverse part of it, and that is you wound up on a track that you don't

have the right car for, and you're shocked at what it teaches you because you realize, oh, I am

doing that wrong, and I have got to drive this car differently to get around this track. And it's

one of the things that happens at Thunder Hill in Northern California, there's a three-mile track

layout and a two-mile track layout. The two-mile is very tight, and the three-mile is big and fast,

and the guys in the big and fast cars really don't like it when people do the full five-mile

consideration because for three miles they're having a blast, for two miles, they're like, I hate this,

I hate this, I hate this, I hate this, and it's with three miles they're happy again, but I feel like

that's the challenge, you know, because we don't have the J-1 on garage, which I love, but you know,

anything else coming from online? David asks, based on how well you know each other,

if you had to pick a two-car garage to expand the other's driving experience, what would you

choose? To expand the other's driving experience. Okay, quickly, quickly repeating the question,

based on how well we know each other, what two cars would we pick for the other person to drive

to expand their driving experience? Is that fair? Very good, yeah. Volkswagen Tows. All gets a

Tows, that is amazing. How does it expand my... It just expands your tolerance level?

There's not a lot that you don't like. What do you really need a lifted truck?

You just need a big, lifted truck. But you have no purpose for it, you've got to climb up into,

and you drive it around the whole time going, why is this thing so big? Until you get to that place,

that I know is coming because it happens to everybody that drives a lifted truck for long enough,

where you just go, this is the greatest thing ever, I'm going to run over the world. So yeah,

okay, fine, I'm selecting a Rolls-Royce Cullinan for you to expand your driving, feel the... I just...

I just... Lush, carpet, feek, joy, the wood panel, whatever. The worst part of that would be I'd have to

get out of it and be like, yep, that's me, hey, I'm... Yeah, I'm embarrassment of having that.

I look like this, I drive that with your children, the gas tank, you just look around nervously.

I'd have to have my people feel the tech, so I can just seem right. Yeah, exactly, yeah,

that counts for a lot. Bentley's Rolls-Royce's... Yeah, Bugatti, maybe something... Yeah, just

something wild. You put me on something super powerful and big too, wouldn't you? Something really

really counterpoint me, yeah, something really heavy. Yeah, maybe a lot of new BMW products.

GTR. Yeah, I did it in a GTR. Yeah, with the GTR, it doesn't need anything. Yeah, great.

I like it. You would say thank you, through Greed and Teeth. I would. So you have... You have a

Taurus and a lifted truck. Oh, great stuff. Point is that good. Anything else? Nasty.

You would watch what you would probably want to do. No, I don't.

Certainly, we certainly don't have to. Anything else up here? Anybody don't? Yes.

For having driven some of these amazing tracks, are there still some aspirational tracks for either one of you guys?

Well, it sounds crazy. I think because we talk about Ring and Spa so much, but to be honest,

there's a lot of tracks I haven't driven yet that I would love to drive. Tons of stuff in Europe,

but honestly, hooked on driving now has a mid-Atlantic region, which is,

Carolinas and kind of working west and doing everything from BIR to Road and Atlanta.

And they're actually a National Corvette Museum 28th, 29th of June.

Correct. Yep. Okay, so that's the first one of the mid-Atlantic.

I've never done NCM. I've heard it's great. I've loved you. I've never done VIR, which is iconic

as it gets, and I've never done it. We love to do it. I'm curious about Road and Atlanta.

I haven't ever done Road of America. I've seen video, this is how my brain works. I've seen video of

Palmer, which apparently nobody really goes to because it's in the middle of nowhere, but I'm just

like, that looks amazing. Plus, I also want to just drive it and film it. So,

that part of my brain works well as well. And that's not even an iconic track,

but it's a cool track based on what I understand. So, there's a lot of tracks we haven't driven yet,

and I have to acknowledge that, even though we've talked, I think it's because we talk about

some of the iconic ones we have. It feels that we're driven all of it. The truth is, there's a ton of

stuff out there. For me, at Bathurst, Suzuka, two good ones, just for the excuse to travel and see

all the scenery, cuisine, all the travel. I would like to do that. And we've got to get the right

cars there, but different cars for the track. Those two at the top of my list, that's cool.

Certainly, there's more in Europe, I want to do, but Bathurst looks terrifying.

It does. It does. Well, well, well, well, well, well. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Anything else?

Yeah. Given all the road trips, do you guys have considerations for doing something maybe not

competition-based, but similar to like a one map of America? Interesting. We could turn it into,

we could do something along those lines. The only thing about one lap that I don't like

is everybody's story. And I know somebody's typing, but everybody's stories are, yeah,

man, that was a 16-hour day. I'm like, oh, it just doesn't sound any fun. I understand it's kind

of the we got through it mentality, but there is a part of me that wants to drive five hours.

And I want to stop at that cool thing and that ridiculous roadside, whatever that is.

And that kind of thing. I'm fed by that in a way that just marathonically, like we have friends,

the guys that do Ben and Ben that do gears and gasoline. They do some really cool road trip

films. But everyone in the road trip films would be watching. It's like, yeah, we drove 18 hours

today. We slept two hours. We drove 21 hours tomorrow. And I'm going, oh, God, no. So that's the part

of one lap that doesn't interest me. The Paul and I are surprisingly non-competitive with each other.

And so we're just not, I don't feel like we're hardwired in a competitive sense overly. And so

that's one of the reasons we haven't been drawn to it because not always. But a lot of times, one

thing I like about looking on driving a lot of times, competition kills fun. Because now I've

just got to, I've got to win. I've got to beat. And a lot of times it just undermines the fun. And

that's one of the reasons I'm not drawn to it typically. But I'm open to ideas.

Please follow up. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. I did say non-competition. I like that. So some, maybe

something similar like, actually, they have a magazine, but like you define, so like that,

it was a road trip. And you kind of did a race track once or twice, but it was a very regimented

schedule. That's kind of what I was more than. Sure. Oh, sure. And that's a sense of our

pilgrim trips a little bit. I mean, you are getting a road tour day. You're getting some track days.

The problem with those trips, problem, whatever. The problem with those trips is once you include

a track day into a trip like that, the price starts skyrocketing. And so that's one of the thing.

We want to keep, I mean, let's be honest, ring and spa is expensive enough, but we still try to keep

it as affordable as possible, but you're traveling overseas. You're running a car, you're going

to a race track. Price is escalate. I like the idea of having, I'm of two minds. I like the idea

of having those trips with those elements, but I also like to keep things as accessible as

possible. And sometimes those are in conflict. I think self growth is self competition wanting to

do better. Of course, competing against somebody else is interesting and fun, but it does have limits

for me too. And just getting better by being around people who are really good. I want to be

around those people and to bring my skills up. And so when I have a satisfying even if somebody

still faster, I'm faster than them. Sure. But I just want to, I want to be

towed along too. I want to, I want to bring other people to, you know, higher skill levels.

And I want to be towed along too. I like that. I like that self satisfaction part for me. And

so whatever that could look like, I think, and I think that would resonate with people because

competition can imply, you know, money time. And then what did you really get? That's why we adopt

the RSR line. There's no F1 talent scouts here today looking for you. Yeah. Yeah.

Anything else? I'm going to go to my son at some point. So

yes, sir. Yeah. For me, personally, it would be Imola specifically before the earth and turn

to crash, specifically. So that's definitely one track I would like to do in the future. And

something I'm never done before. I think it's an icon. I totally hear you on that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's anything else before I give my son the opportunity to ask you a question. Yes, sir.

What obviously you came into this with different backgrounds? What kind of skills you learn

doing everyday driver that maybe you didn't think, you know, would have come up as like, okay,

I'm doing these film reviews. You know, I have this skill set. What kind of skills like did you

develop over time that you thought maybe wouldn't wouldn't have been part of the repertoire that you

thought you did? I will say that my awesome wife, Kate, is a trained actress and very good.

And I had no interest in being on camera. Zero. Didn't want to be on camera when it'd be behind

the camera. And then when we started having the idea for the show, I realized I directed

enough at that point that the guy who's going to ride in the car is going to have all the fun.

And I'm just going to get to edit it. So if I want to get in the car, I better get on camera.

And I had no training, no background, not a whole lot of interest, but just thought, all right,

your joke you always make. Sit here, drive fast, do good, be funny, all those kind of things,

right? Be fun. I say handsome, cool, interesting, funny thing. Yeah, that was the

cool. And so trying to get to a place where it can just be off the cuff, jumping the car. And

sometimes this is, this is as close to an actor as I get. Sometimes 45 things have gone wrong

before the moment I shut the door and have to talk to camera. But I can't have all that in here.

And so that's the place where I had to, for like a minute, would have put it learned to act and

just be in the moment, which is very hard for me. I'm always way up there and way back here,

very rarely in the present. And so to get into the present, just be like, what's this car on this

road in this moment has been a challenge for me, but it was required, you know? Certainly for me,

it's been working on putting the hard stuff behind me and allowing myself to kind of say what I

feel on camera and being comfortable with that and being okay that people are going to see that.

And you know, we always joke, so that's what I look like, huh? So that's what I sound like.

Great. But I think it's being being comfortable to be able to say and trying to find, you know,

what am I saying? You know, what am I trying to say about the car or the experience and just allow

myself to do that? Because a bunch of crap just happened. Flat tire, something happened. I'm pissed off.

I'm frustrated about that and I have to let it go. And we got to get this done. And so let it go.

Yeah. That's always hard to do. So I'm constantly being challenged by that.

And sometimes people are surprised to realize that we don't script what we do.

We have talking points. We have a sheet of, you know, eight by ten sheet of some talking,

it's a bullet point, be sure you remember that stat and remember just talk about this about

the steering and that kind of stuff. But otherwise you should get in the car and go. And so I,

by the way, I don't recommend this approach, but it makes it an editorial challenge where we get

in the edit and we build the back and forth in edit and we find the consistency and edit and we find

to play off in edit because other than knowing the basic premise of we're going to drive these two

cars together for reason X other than that, we don't even converge. We just go, okay,

you get your thoughts, I'll get my thoughts and we'll build it. So yeah.

We always say, this is work. This is work. It's crazy. This has been trying to make each other laugh.

Yes. And simply saying, all right, if nobody else was here or was watching at least we had fun,

at least we made ourselves laugh. The end. And also the fact that matters completely. And it's also

the thing where we have to feel proud to have done that. Yeah. And sometimes I'm a year out,

I see it over there. I'm like, Oh, that was cool. We did that, which it takes you down. Like,

that's right. We did review that car. Yeah. That was a long time ago. Yeah. You watched that?

Yeah, it's cool. It's great. Thanks, buddy. What do you got?

Of your road trips that you have filmed, which one is your favorite and why? And if you can't

come up with an answer, do the exact same question, but with future films. Not bad. Not bad.

All right. I think the feature film, I think the Corvette film is my favorite.

It was also the one that I nearly got in a terrible wreck during. So thank God that didn't happen.

That was very, it was very scary. It's the closest we've ever had to a really nasty, nasty

disaster in the middle of our shoots. But if you haven't seen that film, the end credits is just

you just get to ride along with me as I have a staggeringly close near mess in a very expensive car.

But anyway, but that's the one where I felt like we'd refine the concept the best.

Our future films are walking through the progression of these are all these series are all

walking through the progression of the history of a car. I felt like it was refined the best and

worked the best on that. So that's my favorite of those. But my, I think my favorite road trip film,

I was going to say Sierra, but it's second. We just dropped the Sierra one. It's South Dakota,

because we had this idea to go to South Dakota. And then we kind of checked ourselves in with South Dakota.

What? You know, but there were cool roads. It had a nice destination. We're going to,

yeah, we're going to see now. We found some things. We found some things. You know,

they're here to talk about and it might be kind of funny. And you know, we're going to go to

Badlands and we kind of, I know this sounds weird, but I had the crazy idea and I talked to Paul

about it. And he was like, yeah, that sounds really cool. That was like, is it, is it though? So we

were back and forth a lot on that one. And it turned out really well. That's, that has a cadence to

it and a tone to it. That is, I feel like the closest to the target I'm trying to hit. Yep.

So that's good. I think it's the filmmaker in you that wants the, the stops and the non-car

thing to talk about and showcasing it at a different angle and seeing things. That's what certainly

I've learned. Every single one of our trips is fantastic. I enjoy it. I think it's really,

it's that road trip thing. You want to get out of the car. Yeah. You want to do something else. And

you want to drive school. Yeah, for being on the car for about four hours. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Anything else for anybody up here, probably getting close to wrapping up. But Paul didn't answer.

Favorite road trip. Okay. Favorite feature film was mid engines and mountains for me because

we were driving aspirational mid-engine cars, but I don't still don't feel like we really know what

we were doing on that trip. We didn't. Yeah. We were finding that format. That's what the

people must say. Yes, but for people to say and tell us how we, how that affected them or resonated

with them. I'm thinking of myself, there were cameras running, not enough, clearly. Yeah.

And we just drove and talked about a cool road and had some fun, but it was, it was a slog. It was

hard for me. Yeah. It was difficult, I guess, but it was, it was cool to see how that affected

other people. Okay. Certainly. Yeah. And I, yeah, didn't think I'd say that. I didn't think it

would be mid-engine mountain because we had so many nice ones, but that one resonated because it felt

so off the cuff. It felt so on the fly. Yeah. Last thing in it, this is hard. What are we doing here?

Kind of feel. That's cool. Yeah. You got another road trip one that you like, though?

Road trip film. Sears was up there. You know, I'm going with adventures. I have to say it's the

adventures when I'm seeing a line of cars and we're all together and it's friends. Yeah.

Bear Tooth has been up there. The Utah adventures. It feels like a film to me, but it just feels

like we're doing it with all of our friends. So I would say it's the adventures. And so we're

leaning into that even more. It's cool. Anything else on the line? We should cover?

What is that? How many days are we going to live professionally for the show?

Well, we always say our cars have to be camera ready at all times because we might need a pickup,

you know, an additional film. You don't have a piece of film. You've taught me if we didn't get it

on the day, we don't have it. We can't put it in the film if we didn't get it. So we overwork

to make sure we've gotten a piece of film. And cars almost must always be camera ready. And so that

there's not a regular cadence at the point. But we do shoot for test drives. We shoot once a week.

And if we have two cars, we might end up shooting two days that we could generally shoot once a

week. We get a test drive done. We've got that pretty well dialed. That's a single car stuff.

And then we try. It's not always the case. We try to have a big comparison shoot once a month,

which is typically two days and sometimes three. So that's the most normal cadence. But what

ends up happening every single year, and this road trip, for example, is because we spend all the

winter months in Utah, not being able to get press cars, not being able to shoot anything outside,

we end up shooting a lot between May and October. So that once a month cadence that we dream about

becomes like, we're doing three things this month, which is okay. But then we've now had this crazy

idea of wheeling into these road trips. So we also have some film that takes five days. We love it.

Five days go by. We get back into real life after that. Yeah. I do not want this evening to end.

I'm just so enjoying being up here with all of you. You're enjoying yourself. Look how close you're

standing. I'm amazed. I can't even believe it. Let me start it. I'm trying to do that.

Before we close this down, anybody else have thoughts. Anything else online? That light is now killing me.

Okay. Yeah. Well, since we've combined both brands for this trip, our sponsors have stepped

alongside us. Thanks to FCP Euro. They've stepped alongside the hookdown driving brand versus

fantastic. And they are about educating you for the right part for your car. FCP Euro.com.

Griot's garage. I love it when the Griot supplies come out and everybody's detailing their car.

I had a guy come up today asking about other products. There's like, I've got to be trying,

but do you have the bug and smudge remover? It's like, I don't have that today. It's not today. Yeah,

it was good. Autotepis.com when you're shopping Autotepis.com slash every day because they know

that we sent you there. And also, reticined tires, equipping the cars, many cars on our trip.

Yep. We're coming all the way out here. Thank you to Shakane Footwear. We love Shakane brand.

We think it's awesome looking. I got complimented on my GT3 issue. For sure, you had great shoes on

that. Those are all pretty cool and power stop breaks. They provided breaks for many of the cars.

We find that products fantastic. OEM plus one excellent stuff. And thanks to all of you for coming.

We really, this is really cool. Couldn't do it without all of you. It's been quite

quite building up. A thousand podcasts is ridiculous. Yeah, but I'm going to stand back here for

I know you're not, but I'm going to stand back here for a second. Stand up here because I am truly

astonished to not only be up here because that seems weird. I mean, tell me 10 years ago,

you're the top of Dakota Tower, which first the question would have been, what are you talking about?

But tell the top of Dakota Tower and talk to a bunch of people that are going to sit there and

want to be there. And that flores me. So thank you guys for coming. And it really is the audience

that you guys are and the friends many of you have become. And the fact that you want to take

these adventures with us, that allows us to have this crazy job. And I am eternally thankful for

that. And it is astonishing. And the fact that you want to get to hang out and talk cars and laugh

is the greatest thing ever. It's great. So you know what comes now is how we always end the podcast.

It has to be the same for podcast episode 1000. How do we end it?

Cheers everyone. Thank you very much for watching. Good night.

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